Russia’s Giant Military Exercise Wasn’t A Cover For War After All (HBO)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2017
- Russia's biggest war games in years didn't result in the "big invasion" a top NATO official had warned about, but there's still suspicion in the West that the Zapad 2017 exercises involved many more troops than Moscow let on.
Zapad, which translates to "West" in Russian, took place in western Russia and Belarus between Sept. 14 and Sept. 20. NATO's Military Committee Head General Petr Peval had said the exercises looked like "a serious preparation for [a] big war". Russia said 12,700 military personnel were involved, though some western estimates put that number at 100,000.
NATO observers were allowed to watch the war games, though some complained their access was restricted. VICE News visited Zapad and found the Russian military was touchy about what we could see and where we could go.
The exercises were hit by bad weather and occasional military mis-steps, with an attack helicopter accidentally firing on a group of men, injuring three. Russian president Vladimir Putin watched parts of Zapad, which involved a scenario where a fictitious region of Belarus tried to break away with help from NATO.
Russia has been modernizing is military for the past decade, at a time when trust with its western neighbors is at its lowest point since the Cold War. Sweden is currently holding its biggest military exercises in 20 years, involving 19,000 troops, with support from other NATO countries.
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VICE News visited Zapad and found the Russian military was touchy about what we could see and where we could go.
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Is that not with any other military? Nations don't let reporters in with 100% access. Just like if I take a tour of Fords automotive plant, I'm going to be escorted and shown things they only want me to see......
The Military reform started after 2008, still not a decade. Reporters should better do their homework.
No, they are going to let you in on all their secrets, even show you how to disable their electronic warfare trucks as a gesture of good faith )))) I at least appreciate that this is one of the few news agencies which inadvertently showed that this whole hysteria about Zapad exercises being a cover for invasion of Belarus was "fake news". Although VICE really went downhill over the years. The only thing it does well is entertainment.
Vice you are just shity Soros propaganda, you forgot to mention NATO expansion, USA sponsored Ukrainian coup d'etat, and destruction of Middle East, thanks God for Russian military power that keeps NATO and USA in check.
Perhaps you should explain to me why they would allow a blatantly anti-Russian so-called "news" platform , to see whatever they wanted .They did have NATO observers there , with , I would imagine . similar restrictions ., How many Russian observers were invited to the NATO war games on the Russian borders ?
“NATO has never been the aggressor.”
Yugoslavia:”Am I a joke to you?”
Vice: "Western armies think that this excersise shows preparations for war"
Russian army: Yeah thats our entire purpose, like any other army, in the world.
Vice: *pikachu surprised face*
The serbs where killing the other groups and no one step in and say no ethnic cleansing is wrong.
@@whitestaralliance7190 so NATO joined to continue that.
Обрен Милићевић yes. And only then did you leave Kosovo
Libya?
Vladamir Putin playing mobile strike in real life tho
Artillery strike at B-5. The question is, who will play against him?
golan ha
Funny. Hahaha.
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Brittany Pipoli, that's bolshevik
“NATO has never been the aggressor” 😂😂😂 priceless
bruh moment for real
Libya Jugoslavia
Georgia, Ukraine
Robert Fazekas Georgia was when Russia was protecting its citizens, Ukraine was when Russia was backing other Russians in eastern Ukraine against the fascist government. Also, Crimea wasn’t annexed. Crimea had a referendum and the people of Crimea joined Russia. Yeah, and 75% of the Ukrainian army switched sides and joined Russia. Russia is also growing and modernizing its military because when they fought against Georgia and when they were trying to get Chechnya back into Russia, they were stronger but had too many casualties. Russia has also had tremendous success, because after the USSR collapsed Russia was failing and the rich were stupid burglars. Now Russia has one of the most powerful economies in the world and is the world’s second strongest military following the USA ( or so most people say ). You can never know who is stronger in tell you have a war and a war between the US and Russia is death to the whole world. Instead the US and Russia should make a treaty with all the other nations that have nuclear weapons to destroy all nuclear weapons in the world so that if we have a war ( hopefully not ) the world won’t die.
Andrei Russia is a superpower and it is just asking for NATO to stop expanding and threatening its borders and wants to be left alone.
"NATO has never been the aggressor." LMAO
he was obviously caught off guard!
Haha :D
XDDD... by never they mean... always...
BudaBrat94 ???
If NATO is not aggressor who invaded Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq ?
"NATO has never been an aggressor" Sadam and Kaddafi might disagree
protecting collective security inst acting as the aggressor, after all the collapse of collective security was one of the key elements that lead to WW2. In addition, are you defending literal dictators?
+howabout no We had no business going in these countries under the false pretense of eradicating the threat of WMD (which btw were NEVER found) and bringing "democracy" to the people who didn't ask for it. These were sovereign countries and we had absolutely no right meddling in their business. Am I protecting the dictators? No, but what they did worked and kept the region stable. What we did is stir up a hornet's nest and now the whole world is suffering for it. So, unless you're telling me that a country ran by dictator that keeps everything under control is a worse alternative to a failed "democratic" terrorist state, I'd advise you to think really hard before posting something so stupid next time.
howabout no
'collective security' lol more like collecting that oil and ramping up the military industrial complex
Add Yugoslavia and Kosovo war on top of that also..
Boo hoo for them.
NATO has never been the aggressor, the Estonian observer must have forgot about Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lbya.
Iraq wasn't strictly NATO operation, it was the coalition of the willing, and also they were acting on bad Intel against a tyrannical regime with expressionistic intent. Yugoslavia, what a joke, you are literally saying that Serbia should just genocide away because 'muh state sovereignty'. Afghanistan was in response to 911, and bonus it was fucked up because of Russia in the 80s. Libya was in support of the people of Libya against a tyrannical dictator.
On the other hand the Ukraine had a port. that seems like a reasonable reason to annex part of their country.
Afghanistan was completely justified. Russia invaded them before too, and they didn't have a 911 like the US did.
Russia "invaded" Afghanistan AFTER the USA funded the terrorists. America is to blame for terrorism.
@Levvy is Awesome To add insult to injury, the terrorists that performed 9/11 were the exact same terrorists that the US paid and then thought would magically disappear once they stopped funding them and the USSR pulled out.
You say Serbia commited a genocide and yet there is less Serbians on Kosovo than albanias and Serbs were majority on there before 99'
this video aged well
NATO has never been the aggressor ...))) Yugoslavia, Libya, Afganistan, Syria. Never been the aggressor...
American armored division in Latvia and Estonia. 200-300 kilometers from St. Petersburg.
Imagine a Russian tank division in New Jersey or in Mexico))
What? Are the Baltic countries part of Russia? Also if you forgot they are in NATO theres a reason for them being there.
Yugoslavia was a response to genocide. If the Serbian government didn't ethnically "cleanse" thousands of people they wouldn't have been bombed.
bad examples...Yugoslavian war started by Serbia (backend by Russia)..Afghanistan war was started by Russian invasion...Russian is a warmonger just like China and the USA
@Harry Hirsch how is the Afghanistan War started by Russia? That is like saying that Vietnam War was started by the US invasion. Obviously both countries played bigs roles in the escalation ans later wars, but Russian didnt started the war.
well if a Russian tank division was in new jersey or Mexico it would mean war our tank divisions are not in Russia or in any of there allies territory
So its ok when the us troops train in the baltic but its not oh when russia trains in RUSSIA
exactly. Cause when russia trains america pisses itself. It knows the power the sleeping giant posesses.
nelson smith one Baltic region is not on Russia's door step(by that I mean hungry and Romania and Bulgaria are not sharing a border with Russia)but Poland Estonia Lithuania and Latvia are freaking out because Russia is practicing on their back doorstep literally and they've been invaded by Russia many times so they have every right to be fearful.
Mr.destroyer nobody is fearfull here its just liberal propaganda that they try to push on the majority and scare people who are not well informed.
The Baltic countries are right to worry about Russia they have been under Russian rule 2 times and their populations had been forced to work for a government not their own. Also the reason its KINDA ok for NATO members to do war games is because they have been doing them for well since NATO was a thing its just regular for NATO to do these things so its not named warmongering it is a military alliance after all.
Vimini USSR were doing war games since forever too even before nato existed. They stopped because the USSR fell and Russia was rebuilding its economy. During this time NATO took advantage of a weak Russia as the west wouldn’t face any repercussions on the world stage.
After the invasion of Iraq and the world started being very suspicious of NATO especially the US. Then the Libyan and Syrian intervention happened and western influence began to decline moving towards Russian and China.
The US is losing world influence because it’s using the UN to push US interest like enforcing harsh sanctions on Iran even after Iran had complied too have them removed.
Now the EU is having problems since the UK choosing to have more economic ,political and defensive ties too the US than the EU.
This aged well…
Estonian soldier was so unsure about speaking if the russia is the agressor, i live in estonia and so far russian planes havent flown close to estonian border, but i see all day long the nato planes doing drills and flying for hours. Russia can be friend, but also russia can be very dangerous if you want it to be.
Need sitased nato lennukid lendavad tihti üle tallinna kuradi aknad ka värisevad. Ma mõtlen kas need ahvid natuke kõrgemal ei tahaks lennata? :D
meil oli kord 40-ndal suur"sõber"kes küsis kord näpu aga., haaras kogu keha, seega see "sõber" ei ole turvaline temaga on parem mitte tegemist teha sest see "sõber" on ettearvamatu sinu kahjuks ma ei taha selliseid "sõpru"Sõber ei tule teiselt sõbralt nahka üle kõrvade tõmbama artur õpi ajaloost aga mida sa õpis sa ka ju sisse tulijate järeltulija ja las nad lendavad lendavad lennkuid on ohutumad kui alla kukkuvad lennukid viisnurkadega
how do you know if nato planes are intercepting russian planes going thru border?
Test this: propose on government level if Estonia should be terminus on the new Silk Road to China, with high speed freight train, and oil&gas pipelines. See how quickly the US responds that it is a bad idea (and some Europoodles like Carl Bildt will say the same)
I love the Estonian flag, it's my favorite 🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪
To be honest? It would be far more threatening if russia wouldn't show off.
4Gamers00 yeah, the less we see the more unsure we would be. At least we know for sure that their capable
"Nato has never been the aggressor" give me a break dude
I don't think it was a particularly contentious claim. What is the probability of Nato invading Russia and what is the probability of Russia invading eastern European states? Be sure to take into account Russia's invading of Ukraine not 4 years ago.
the entire middle east would beg to differ ,the only reason they wont attack russia is mutual destruction ,russia has enough nukes to take the world with them
Green Leader Afganistan 2001 was only NATO deployment to Middle East....Afganistan was properly destroyed by Russia, Mujahadeen(CIA) and wars of attrition between local warlords in 90s
Majime keep telling yourself that. Geopolitically they are involved everywhere
What about the 1999 bombings of Serbia? They never invaded or attacked a NATO member, in fact, they were fighting on their own soil in Kosovo.
Nobody has been predicting a 'big war' with Russia, except some over-excitable young reporters who listen to pronouncements with far too much credulousness. Are we that far from the era of the Cold War that journalists no longer understand how the game is played?
Troop movements and exercises are just one of many means of communication and posturing utilised by politicians, alongside diplomatic expulsions, withholding of co-operation on this or that international body etc. When the players are skilled, as Vladimir Putin most certainly is, actual deployment of armed forces only occurs in controllable regions and at inconvenient times that guarantee that other actors cannot intervene - or hostilities are conducted via proxies calling themselves 'freedom fighters' and 'rebels' that not only provide a convenient alibi and degree of separation, but also ensure that any conflict cannot truly get out of hand, since they do not possess the full firepower or authority of the actual rival powers. At other times, they conduct grandiose military exercises... which guarantee that those troops are on display but are not in any readiness for actual deployment somewhere that matters.
what are you talking about the american mainstream media has been beating the drums for war with russia for the last 8 months
Well done sir, good brain!!
+meh757 Precisely: beating the drum is one of the many empty ploys that have been used since the beginning of the Cold War (where, if you took everything said or printed at face value, you would have thought the world was ending every day for 44 years) and for centuries before when we called our rivalries with Russia 'the Great Game'. Nearly everything you hear from politicians concerning foreign policy is designed for an audience - to encourage people at home; or to rattle people abroad. The media parrot and amplify it, often unthinkingly - which affects public opinion but doesn't affect what diplomats actually do. Almost none of it means what it actually says.
Well , at least someone with criteria ..
MinesAGuinness well to he fair this is the closest to war with russia we have come in a very long time, hence why canadians are training soldiers in Eastern Europe to combat russian aggression, although it appears to be calming down a bit.
Watching this now, it's like some guy flexing his muscles at a bar threatening to fight, then he trips over a stool a few minutes later and K.O.s himself. Who knew the only thing the Russian military was any good at killing were paper targets and unarmed civilians?
The ending though,
"you will not intercept our missiles, we will intercept your missiles."
lol
Biggest joke of the decade
its not zapaad, its zaapad
Smile2Smokie "zapat"
Alexei Almanov запат?
Smile2Smokie it's pronounced "Zapat" ,some Russian consonants change sound when placed at the end of words
Alexei Almanov hahaha, sure thing buddy
Smile2Smokie Doo Doo head
West meaning the west of Russia not "The West"
They should clarify that indeed, I hate when news does shit like that just to get more views
you really don't get it do you? NATO has "Eastern Divisions" its just a fuicking cardinal direction! The "ZAPAD EXERCISE" is like saying the Western Exercises! It is just the name of a region of where the exercises are held because Russia is so vast they are just naming it after where they are holding them! Don't read into it like that! They could have also named it the Belarusian exercises.....Russia of COURSE is going to have defenses on their most defenseless border with no natural defenses, historically it has been an invasion corridor with nations invading Russia using this flat defenseless region, so what if they call it the western exercises?? ....jesus christ you people believe all the lies Vice feeds you! Optimum performance was simply CORRECTING a fucking MISTAKE made by Vice and you rush in to fucking defend their fucking error with some argument that makes ZERO sense and reveals how you are just not capable of understanding how any of this really works, you are stuck arguing semantica about
What's the fucking difference? The number of tanks moved in this exercise outnumber all of the tanks in other countries in the region at least 4 to 1. And that about explains why everybody else should take notice.
:) The Earth being round any precise cardinal point location it's just academic. Also the former CCP behemoth was the one who divided first Europe arbitrarily in two, using the Eastern subjugated part as a buffer against the "Westerner" European countries. The Easterner forced to accept communist regimes (with leaders decided at Kremlin), have gone poor cos of that whilst the Westerner capitalist ones were thriving. Cos of that social - economical gap, the term of West has gone for all over the globe, West meaning rich democratic states whilst the East the poor authoritarian ones, cos people can't thrive neither intellectually, socially and economically when their governments has turned them in obedient automated like people.
Steven Andrews
Wow how extremely bigoted and ignorant of you.
Im from Norway, and a while ago NATO countries had a joint winter military exercise near the border of Russia, or war games if u want to call it that.
The Us deployed a dozen abraham tanks and brought them as far north as they've ever been before, and stationed +300 Us marines in a place called Tromsø wich is not that far from Russia.
Now you tell me who's the aggressor here
Americans I guess
The problem is not that the Russian military does an exercise but that they violate a treaty because there is over 10,000 military personnel and there aren't any observers
Rolf Saitoti now look at the numbers. You are comparing a small exercise of a dozen tanks and 2 companies with a huge 100 000+ people exercise with artillery, choppers, planes etc. Besides, NATO goal was to train with an ally up north so they really didn’t have much choice. Russia however has similar terrain way further from its borders and chooses to be right up against the border.
Trident Juncture was around 40.000 NATO soldiers, the biggets NATO exercise in years.
So did the Marines enter Russia? No? Then who cares? Borders exist for a reason. We tend to respect Russia's, Russia doesn't respect anyone else's. That is a problem.
why is it ok for nato to do trainings on russias boarders but not okay for russia to do it ?
If you want to live in peace prepare for war! Si vis pacem, para bellum!
Viktory Nike - Your comment is to intellectually rigorous to fully be understood or appreciated. Especially here.
Si vis pacem, para pacem...
I’m sorry
Aren't these war games a response to the huge build up of western arms in Poland
In fact vice them selves did an extract on American troops in Poland and Hungary. But that’s fine of course, cause it’s the US!
these games were in response to western games, which were in response to the annexation of Crimea.
howabout no you are funny
what?
Upunk no
Visit Russia as guests before Russia visits you as green men
aliens?
ROFL... "NATO has never been the agressor"... except for that one time and that other time, oh and that other one time...
No?
Well.. Who then?... Russia?
I mean the Soviet Union probably idk, but russia.. Noh i dont believe that russia is the agressor.. Noohh
6yrs later and we are realizing that they are paper tigers
What is the point of NATO anyways? There are no more Warsaw Pact countries since 1990.
That's because the Warsaw Pact hasn't existed since 1991, smartass.
because Russia is still a big mean motherfucker who doesn't care about anyone else's state sovereignty or human rights, and the eastern European countries need protection.
howabout no LoL. Too much CNN for today mate :D
Nato puts bases everywhere near the russian borders, murica sends troops to Poland and Romania, they place missile systems everywhere and bomb the shit out of any poor and weak mid-east country to spread "democracy". It's okay. But if russian troops exercise in their own land....IT'S DEFINITELY AGRESSION!!!!!!
Marcell B , this is what I'm talking about. Last time I check only NATO do much of the bombing & invading of other countries. Compared to Russia, USA is more responsible for most of global terrorist action. For example, ISIS rise from post-war Iraq due to corrupted puppet government installed by USA
Howabout no what a fucking argument, dude. Saying something about human rights issues in Russia because gays can't marry there and being close friends with Saudites at the same time.
Word has it that some of the Russian ships we see here still exist!
NATO has never been an agressor HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
''Russuphobia''.....yes, a nice way to disregard anyone who dares to criticise anything bad Russia does. I wonder if Nazis called those who didn't like what they did ''Germaphobes'' as a way to justify their actions
craby man
И что плохое в России Вы хотите критиковать? 🤔
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To be fair, that's a bit like what George W. Bush did say when they invaded Iraq. Not exactly, of course, but still
What have we done? Have you helped the Ossetians defeat the Georgians? Do you vkurse that this conflict has its origins since the 90's? They occupied the Crimea? It is possible! But they did it out of conscience to protect their people and the fleet that has been standing there since the 18th century.
you forgot that last year lots of nato army had same training close to russians boarders
"NATO has never been the aggressor" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA a man in denial
Do you want to hear a great joke? Hear a great joke at 2:54. And make this woman meet THE FISH.
That joke by the Senator at the end had me dying.
Nato never be agressor LOOK WHAT YOU DID IN SERBIA 99
Why do we even have NATO anymore? The cold war is over and Russia is NOT the enemy. We don't need NATO, we need to be allied with Russia. They are our friends. I used to be a soldier in one of NATOs many armies (Germany) and I reject this hostility between our nations. Haven't your learned anything from history?
Leansifer 69.0 I think your mom is the enemy though
Why? So that we wouldn't be picked of one by one. Allied? Putin would stab you in your Crimea.
Yeah. and they came to czechoslovakia to help us in 1968, thats right. ha ha
sure, always blame the russians, classic
Leansifer 69.0 evidence, please.
As far as I remember Trump won via electoral college vote, there are zero claims Russia influenced those guys. It is all a big false flag to destabilize U.S. from within despite Trump is an imbicile. I'm sorry to expose it but you've been programmed for this and tensions inside america are only rising.
I love how she just turns around and goes "Oh and there's Putin"
Wow that Russian officer was surprisingly honest.
this hasn't held the test of time lol
west side
Λdrīαη till we die, we bad boy killas
elias savoie lol
West side outlaws bad boy killas
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Λdrīαη east side
Just loved the way he said at the end hahahaha
"NATO HAS NEVER BEEN THE AGRESSOR" HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA , best remark 2017 .... that guy made my day ....
"NATO is not the aggressor"...really...???!!!
2:55 Nato has never been the aggressor? Say what?
2:53 this guy just lost his job 😂😂😂
It was a show high leavel of training my ass lol
"NATO has never been an aggressor"
Well, down with that guy's credibility.
didnt age to well
"Russia wants to be friends"
10 seconds later "you will not intercept our missiles, we will shoot down your planes"
What jet is that at 2:38?
Edit: auto-correct error.
The estomian observer clearly hesitated when he said nato is not the agressor
He knows
But hes afraid he may lose his job
Would love to see the NATO countries allow Russian media in their drills 😂😂😂
I love the message at the end ! listen to this man :)
Russian fanatic: "Russia needs no extra territory"
Crimea: "Am I a joke to you?"
Altess they didn't topple gaddiff and saddam hussein goverment unlike NATO and usa LMAO
Love to watch Russian military display
"Russia neither needs any extra territory"
*invades Ukraine anyway*
CombatantFrost 4, hello, i am russian, and i have family in Donbass, where is the CIVIL WAR, and i have been in Crimea many times, before Russian sent troops to help us against ukrainian nazis, and after that, i will tell you something, because it´s very difficult to talk with you western people, i don´t know what you have in your mind, but i will try anyway, because it´s very offensive to our people when you talked about something never happened, but you not talk about the important things, like ukrainian nazis killing ukrainians and russian citizens in Kiev and Crimea, like ukrainian nazis attacking peaceful people because they do not agreed with the new government sized by a military coup in Kiev in 2014, like ukranian artillery bombing civilian areas and killing women and children less than 1 year old, like ukrainian nationalist battalions sent to Donbas to EXTERMINATE us because we were simply russian people, like nazi hanging people, burying them alive, like nazis bothering children because they publish their opinion on internet, like nazis in cities like Kharkov, Mariupol, Slaviansk, etc etc raping women because they just decided to kidnapp girls of 15 years old, and make them "love" Ukraine. In Ukraine, there is no war between Russia and Ukraine, there is a war between russian people, as ukrainian people can be considered russians, because we share the same blood, history, mind, and land, nd 84% of ukrainians speak russians, or have russian family, at the beginning of the war in Donbass, we were waiting for russian soldiers to arrive, but never happened, only we have volunteers from different regions that came to help, so we were fighting already against ukrainian nazis, but in 2014, 2015 we were militias only, today we have a professional army in our Republics of Lugansk and Donetsk, all we receive from Russian Federation is humanitarian aid, thanks to that we were able to survive, because ukrainian bastards cut off electricity, water, food supply, gas, we could not use banks anymore because they were ukrainains, so we had no money, to buy anything. In Crimea, after the military coup in Kiev sized by the nationalist organizations like Свобода (Svaboda = freedom) and Правый Сектор (Pravy Siektor = right sector) they sent their nazis to fight us, and create caos also, and our ukrainian authorities and army did nothing to stop the killings and attacks of these animals, so we decided to create militias, and defend ourselves, and make a referendum to be part of Russia again legally, i say legally, because we always have been russian people, despite have ukrainian passport, but Crimea this is Russia for us, and this is something you western people can not understand, but this is how it is, and we tried during the 90´s many times to be part of Russia again, but the ukrainian authorities did not let us do it and we were repressed bruttally, so finally we could do it and we did it, so for us, when Russian Federation Forces arrived to Crimea, for us it was liberation and protection, and there it was no firefight, most ukrainian soldiers joined Russian Army and others went to ukrainian territory, so it wasn´t an anexation as you call it in the West, and you must count something, every invasion through history, it takes a lot of blood, because a FOREIGN country invades another one, but for us Russia is not a foreign world, we are part of it, and we came back finally. Today there is peace in Crimea, you can go and visit it by yourself, there is no war, thanks to Russian Federation forces, but sadly in Donbass, the war still going on. I hope you understand this, i leave you some information about the nazis, they never talked to you in your mass media. Best regards.
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It's literally cost so fucking much to get the territory under your control, all the infrastructure, business etc. Russia is barely doing that with Crimea but still doing that because can't afford losing bases in Black Sea, and the risk was 100% justified, current UA goverment goverment would've throw away russian fleet out of Crimea without any doubt to get along with NATO countries.
Aleksander Aleksandrovich
some believes in fake western media news, not knowing the whole truth....
Ciuma Padurii in the first year of war Russia provided actually a very decent support to refugees from Donbass, who moved to Russia to escape war by giving them welfare payment. Main problem is that if Russia would've start bold moves in Ukraine west countries would've been enormous, like cutting down SWIFT and shit like that. So all they could do is covert ops operations and weapon support. But yeah, nowadays support is mostly gone, nongovermental organisations tho are doing charity deliveries for kindergardens/hospitals etc.
Aleksander Aleksandrovich not a civil war you stalinstic animal.
Oh and ps you don't even know your own history and your people are as brainwashed as germany in the 1930s.
Your just a robot your not truly russian. The true russian people have escaped from the dictatorship
How you gonna point nuclear missiles at Russia 24/7 but somehow Russia is the "agressor"...
Good report :)
Oh what a surprise...
Exactly, why would Russia ever invade eastern European states? Like the Ukraine for instance. Typical western propaganda.
"Exactly, why would Russia ever invade eastern European states? Like the Ukraine for instance. Typical western propaganda."
Thats the point XD
"NATO has never been the aggressor"
NATO was the first to put nuclear missiles near the Soviet Union in Turkey and Italy before the Cuban crisis.
NATO invaded Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq and Yugoslavia
NATO put their military excersises up against the Russian border first, long before Russian-Belarussian Zapad excersise. They currently have excersises in Norway and the Baltics which all shares borders with Russia. Not a while ago it was declared that all NATO countries have to restructure their roads/railways for the heaviest U.S equipment.
NATO was originally created in fear of communist Soviet Union, but it doesnt exist anymore. Russia is not a threat anymore, as Sen. Franz Klintsevich said 3:07 Russia wants to be friends with everybody. But because of the Russophobic politics it gets hard for Russia
When you tell nato 6 times in one comment and dont realize that it wasn't nato it was the US UK and some others i think that what you said about how they tried to stop the good isis fighters or you're just a bear.
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He does have a good point at the end about not needing anymore land or oil!
"NATO isn't an aggressor" hilarious, but not to say its the only aggressor
Go, Russian, we love you.
That guy at The end..... I feel so safe....I can really trust him
Come to Russia. Now
Glad to see that this all worked out according to plan...
,,NATO has never been the aggressor."
Lybia, Iraq, Yugoslavia: ,,Are we jokes to you?"
Idk why NATO leaders are concerned. It's not that Russia could actually afford to maintain an army big enough for any sort of war
you have no idea. Back in ww2 era russia didnt have resources for a huge army but well they still walked into berlin first
The Russian army isn't what it used to be and the relative power of the West compared to Russia has changed drastically. Russia isn't the power it once was and probably never will again
by the way i see things going right now. Russia will be a superpower again. You want to know why? People dislike european union ;) Most eastern european civilians hate eu and their shit. Before we joined eu (estonia) the eu was promising to help build our land while yes they have done it but at what cost? our country is in dept since it changed currency in 2010 to eur. Prices have gone higher mid to high class citizens wage gap is rising and there is a lot more poverty now than it was 15 years ago. So yes Russia will be a superpower in future and thats only because the nato's warmongering. Thats my point of view from a place where I live side by side with russians. You know whats funny though? the eu makes propaganda and our country's liberals are puting russians in bad spotlight but half of our country is full of russians and i dont see it working out fine in the end when they keep doing it.
I'm sorry to hear about that, I hope your country will fare better in the future. Why I think Russia won't be a superpower anymore, is because they rely on natural gas and oil heavily. But with the low prices set by OPEC and the green initiatives gaining ground all over the world, we rely on those recourses less and less and with that, Russia's main source of income has shrunk. Again, I hope Estonia will get better soon. Cheers
*+Guinness* Honestly it is not as bad as he makes it up to be. Depth is 9.5% of the GDP so not too bad, Prices went higher to cope with the huge change of currency value (1 EUR to 15.65 EEK), poverty and wage gap mostly came from the party we had in charge (mostly known for changing socialist leaning policies to capitalist ones with a bit of corruption thrown into the mix and voting fraud) and they're no longer in power.
That ending was dope af.
They using Practice round and munition right??
it's always been like this; I honestly don't know why everyone is getting scared or shook.
Russia always did big military exercises (maybe smaller ones) but now they are getting shade thrown on them because of what's happening now, like wars and etc
"NATO has never been the aggressor" then tell me wtf happened in Belgrade 1999
The actions of NATO in that time ended the war.
Primarch Alpharius oh, like in Libya ?
Serbian ultra-nationalists encouraged a wave of ethnic hatred, managed to establish control over their government, military and paramilitary militias, and then unleashed a campaign of ethnic cleansing not seen in Europe since 1945. for several years, other countries looked on, wondering if they should stop this. Finally, they warned Serbia's government to desist their campaigns, or face military consequences. When the ultimatum was refused, NATO forces unleashed a storm of cruise missile attacks upon Belgrade. Many people died, including civilians. But the mania of ultra-nationalism and ethnic supremacy was broken. If only those Serbian leaders had believed the NATO ultimatums, accepted that their crimes were untenable before the deadline and surrendered. Their hubris was paid for with the blood of their citizens. That blood to be added to the blood shed by forces under their encouragement who had murdered tens of thousands of other fellow Yugoslavians.
Or Libya or iraq
Yes.
damn you can see the blast wave!
0:58 That looks like an T-90 MS ! Any expert opinion here? Thought it was only for export.
Seems legit to say the troops are skilled and all objectives complete when you have no rival forces fighting back even in a simulated manner.
To be honest, Russian technology has been known to be notoriously unreliable and just plain bad in the times of the Soviet Union (because they didn't have to make sure the product was good to ensure sales; people just didn't have any other options). For that old dude, it probably does seem like a win when helicopters didn't fall out of the sky and rockets didn't blow up some barn in a completely wrong direction.
Russian technology, especially military technology, is considered some of the best nowadays. In the 40s and up into their fall they managed to pump out large amounts of aircraft, tanks, firearms and anything to do with their military in large amounts and in some cases double the amount of any other country simply because while they weren't extremely advanced, they were cheap, they had large amounts, and they worked.
John Doe - How's that arm chair general position working out for you? Ah good good.
And when you limit what journalists can film...
John Doe
Well, yeah, you can actually measure level of certain skills in one-sided exercises and you can set up adequate objectives to be fullfiled in these kind of exercises. So the statemnt by that officer should not come out wierd, i mean NATO does the same and gives exact same conclusions, thats why i cant really figure out what is your problem here.
This journalist is hot af
virgin
That's how they think they will be more convicing
RageQuitGaming I'd smash
RageQuitGaming You Sir, have a very low standard of "Hot".
I'm in love!!
us does a military drill no one bat a eye
russia does a millitary drill in russian every one are like"ruuuun russia is gonna start a war
Those last word send shivers all around..✈🚁✈✈✈✈
“Natos never been the aggressor” but we just st bombed the Middle East . And invaded every continent the past 100 years.
2:53 Nato has never been the aggressor.
That sounds hilarios.
Max Libya involves nato member states, so I would count that
Yeah NATO attacked Libya right?
Libya ,Syria ,Iraq ,Afghanistan ,Serbia disagree and Russia has been fighting islamic fundamentalists since 1979 in Afghanistan ,Chechnia and now Syria the nato invasions of Iraq and Libya and military intervention in Syria created the perfect breeding ground for terrorists.
NATO has been the agressor for decades and is allied with the world's top sponsor of terrorism (Saudi Arabia).
That is so hilarious, that even the guy that said it knew it was absurd.
a unified islamic state that resembles the caliphates of the 6th centuries sounds a lot scarier to world peace than terrorism. those caliphates at their height controlled all of arabia, egypt, libya, tunisia, morocco, iran and parts of india
That is the nicest way ive ever seen a country say. "Yall really dont want smoke"
What do they shoot at??
Lots of Love and respect for Russia, from BC Canada
Perhaps you haven't seen what russians did in Ukraine. I work for the red cross and I just the real russia 13000 were killed. Maybe you forgot Georgia when russians did a genocide to their population, you should study! I have never thought that Canadian people could welcome Russia to Europe by force sad very sad
When russia show its force "oh noes thats illegal, Russia can't do that"...when USA shows their policing everywhere "US so what, we are the world police"....
so how did we get here
Putin Wasn't a sex-appeal after all.
.''NATO has never been the aggressor.'' Forgot 1999. much?
Maybe you forgot Ukraine Georgia Moldova Chechnya???
@@mantaspaskevicius6293 Dude, you dont know where Moldava is nor the history of the state, Chechenya is a part of Russia and they produced terrorists, and what about Russians who where in Georgia and Ukraine tormented by those NATO corrupted states? And I know my comment wont be highlited ever since VICE is pro NATO media but ask Italian and French troops who died from radiation after serving in south part of Serbia the province of Kosovo. No NATO aint agressors they just happen to contaminante some parts of the world. And your reply is stupid, if your only answer on the question of commiting agression and terror on common people is another question then you have some problems in your head.
What are the names of them tanks and un straight road ? For a curious cat, name is what it wants
2:51 "NATO has never been the aggressor" like really? lol
NATO is no match .
Not because I don't like NATO, but history teaches when you try to combine many ethnic diverse people under one banner(NATO) soldiers start to question why and I going to the front today to die what purpose ? For the motherland or for NATO .
The Russia country knows they are fighting for there soil there families . Army without genuine purpose seldom win " Vietnam was a great example how America lost against the the North Vietnamese army .one was fighting for its soil another fighting for ideology.
Read a fucking military book or something.
Wars aren't won by ideology, they are won by resources and good tactics. We were in fact very successful on Vietnam but a few major mistakes from Congress (politicians not listening to generals as always) fucked it all up.
Alberto Francesca it doesn't matter what you are fighting for when you are being economically choked and can't afford to fund your military. Without money you can forget any chance of successful war campaigns, regardless of your intentions.
J Mik 100 per cent agree.
But we are talking about Russia with a high agricultural sector,, minerals, gold, oil ,gas . With a huge gold reserves.
What makes the difference is Russia close relationship with china.
China has money and Russia has what china needs even selling the best military hardware because they need trade.
The big loser is EU because they need trade with Russia.
the UN is even worse. They send a bunch of people over to a conflict zone and then tell them they can't do anything to protect themselves unless they get approval from a politician, who is probably sleeping.
walperstyle . I agree totally
"NATO has never been the aggressor" whou are you kiding? It's allways the same 1. russia is aggressor 2.serbs did genocid in civil war 3.afghanistan did the 9/11 4.gadafi was dictator and killer
1. If Russia is aggressor explain why does the US have troops in Europe?, and why is us provoking russia (puting nukes on your planes and fly colse to russia's air space) 2. Genocid was commited by both sides 3. the people who you funded to fight soviets turned on your and did the hi-jackings (and did a plane really hit pentagon, i mean where was the plane) 4. when gadafi rise to power his people lived in tents, then he transofrmed libya to power in africa , they had free education, helth care, high paying jobs , standard of living was never better (and when libya sold oil every citizen had profit) and now look how is your democracy helping the wold
I was in Russia this summer... I travel the Trans-Siberian railway to from Moscow to Vladivostok. I agree with his description of Russia. I want to travel there again. Greetings from Slovakia.
That was a pretty dark warning at the end there.
Germany stands with Russia, for a Europe in peace and harmony!
Russia does not stand with Germany cause they bring "brain surgeons" from somalia as immigrants
The Refugees are not our fault, they are a outcome of many US Wars, we as the Country which helps these Refugees should demand the US Government that they pay the whole Refugee Crisis but our Government works for the US, its not the fault of the German people its their Government.
A new Molotov/Ribbentrop pact? Lol
and history has come full circle, germany teams with russia where have I seen that before?
japans getting its teeth again too, hmmm.
Yes, actually German - Russian alliance would be unstoppable (do not involve Molotov - Ribbentrop agreement in this, it's a different story).
From Ekaterina The Great (II), who was actually of German descendant, Russian and German history know a lot og fruitful and effective cooperation.
But USA and UK will never allow great Russian and German alliance.
Lmao they do one drill and think they are hot shit. America does these kind of drills on a month basis.
AwoidElite You don't understand the point... Russia does one Big exercise and the Western media and NATO starts panicking as if Russia is about to Start some shit.. While U.S and its Puppet countries do it on a "Monthly Basis" near Russia and nobody talks about it.. Its clear that you are brainwashed and view Russia as evil & bad
With possibly 100k involved? Haha
How is the u.s doi g in all its wars at the moment hahaha merica
Leansifer, please do break that down for us!!! But here is the bad America is putting out ruclips.net/video/XWuAct1BxHU/видео.html
you pointing fingers but yourself sitting in a glasshouse, THAT is the sad thing!! Give me a break!!!
"It'll be sad end for everybody"
RUclips keeps recomending me Vice videos under the Comedy section. Lol
"Nato has never been the aggressor?" You violated the sovereign rights of Libya and look at it today! Russia's historic and current 'aggression' compared to the West's is angelic.
Tbh Russia did invade Ukraine with actual military force on the ground, supports rebels in Ukraine and assassinates people in the public.
And that is meant to disprove my point how?
Russia's historic aggression includes conquering all of Eastern Europe from Stettin to the Baltic and holding it as an imperial fiefdom for 44 years, spying on the inhabitants they claimed to 'liberate', executing those who tried to escape their control, and sending opponents and people who simply wanted democracy to prison, the gulags or Siberian exile. You'd think people would remember something like that...
Primarch Alpharius - Tbh the US with vocal and silent support from NATO is dropping bombs in seven countries as we speak, none of which we have declared war on. Now you run along home JR.
MuzzedFlame Russia has trolls on its payroll
We remember how Russia is kind. 1968 Czechoslovakia or 1956 Hungary or what Russia did in Ukraine and Afghanistan or polonium assassinations...etc.
Get what you truly deserve
Petr, and what Russia did in Ukraine?
they kicked my dog
Russia has always had an unearned sense of its own entitlement. But take away the nukes and you're left with just another third-world dictatorship.
Why would the Ukrainians hate Russia, do you think? Aren't they the aggressors and Russia the victim? Most westerners have a very low opinion of Russia. Putin is generally only popular with the extreme right. Which is pretty ironic.
Bring a better jacket next time :)
>NATO has never been an aggressor
Serbia says HI!