@@nicoedel5606 Why does being against the points he mentioned in the video make me an enemy to you? It's funny to see that anyone going against the official narrative is immediately considered as fake or an opponent
@@makarovj6871 He's a bot. I wouldn't waste your time on him. He and his masters think having a sock down your pants makes you well-endowed. It does not.
Not drones. Drones, as everyone understands them, are a nuisance. The 'apex predator' is the Lancet. Everything the Switchblade/Excalibur/Javelin/GLSDB/etc failed to be and more. Its accurate, its long range, its deadly, its easy and its cheap. They just started fielding the improved generation and a new even more capable variant is due for deployment mid to late summer.
Appealing to credentials is pathetic, navy veteran or not you don't need credentials to be right or possess information, especially in this day and age of where information is so widely accessible.
@@Ripa-Moramee Is the information so widely available? And how often do you listen and watch Russian media, Italian, Chinese, German, Ukrainian and other sources of information that are not in English for the sake of objective perception?
I'm a navy vet also but damned near choked when he often referred to Russia as Soviet. I too share your sentiment of what does he know about tanks? It would be comparable to an army vet pretending to be an expert on naval ships of the line. Very lame analysis.
No offense to the SME, but he has not indicated what experience or knowledge qualifies him to speak on this topic. Maybe he is an intelligence analyst in the navy, but as it is I have no reason to accept his supposed expertise over that of others.
Yes, an FPV drone can pose a potential threat to an Abrams tank, especially if it is equipped with an explosive or other weapon. However, the success of an FPV drone attack on an Abrams tank would depend on several factors: 1. **Accuracy of attack**: FPV drones require skillful control and precise navigation to reach the target. A successful attack would require precise navigation and proper placement of the attack on the tank's critical location. 2. **Tank armor protection**: The Abrams tank has strong armor protection that can withstand minor explosions and gunfire. Successfully damaging the tank would require sufficient attack power and accuracy. 3. **Air Defense**: The Abrams tank can be equipped with air defense systems that could detect and defend against drone attacks. 4. **Crew Response**: Experienced and well-trained Abrams tank crews could effectively respond to an FPV drone threat and minimize its effect. While an FPV drone could pose a potential threat to an Abrams tank, the success of an attack would depend on many factors and may not always be guaranteed. Therefore, it is important to consider the various factors and capabilities of the parties involved when assessing threats.
@@lifevest1 the fpv is the cracked up Florida man pissed off that the bear fucked around on his property and is now posted up in the forest with a pipe rifle .50 cal
To be honest US air power is so ridiculously overpowered it doesn’t matter if the M1 is obsolete since air superiority will just allow massive precision bombing of enemy forces well before the tanks arrive to enter the battle. I do have a lot of respect for the Russian military but they have been underfunded for decades and are a sad shell of the Soviet military. But it might not even matter if the US just ends up falling into a civil war as it seems to be heading
@@Adam-l2g They barely have anything to send. And one of the american politicians arguments for giving the money was that 90% stays in USA. Even if they had the stuff to give it wouldn't be enough.
@@svensvensson2724 That's enough, America has at least more weapons than Russia or can produce them faster and they have the best army and the best weapons on top of that and have a bigger, stronger, more dynamic and powerful economy. According to SIPRI (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute) estimates, the United States of America has more military weapons than Russia. The US has the largest military budget in the world and possesses a wide range of weapons, including nuclear, conventional and advanced technology.
@@Adam-l2g Russia has the largest and most modern collecton of missiles in the world, including nukes. They make 3 times more tanks than all of NATO and 10 times more artillery ammunition. And if USA wants to move their military to Europe there's a whole big ocean full of submarines and nukes they need to cross without sinking.
@@Random_merkava_enjoyer you realise that you are dumb since t64 has same autoloader as t80, since its the same tank only t64 is more expensive to produce. And 90% of what Ukraine had before the war is produced in USSR
@@edthebumblingfool if you need that explaining, you are not the one I should explain it to.... you need to learn some basics.... survival in Russian tank when its 100% destroyed is about 85%....and most turret tosses happen long after crew abandons tank.... now go learn basics and maybe watch some videos why turtle tank is so succesfull...I dont have time to teach kids
@@Lipi19821 So you are the guy doing statistics for the russian military? How about you get into one of those safe russian tanks and fight for your fuhrer.
Both tanks Died By Artillery, Mines, Atgm, DRONES, and the infamous Laser Guided Shovel Its just Western Better in safety ergonomics and specs by bit, but doesnt matter if Your LeopardA6 still died by drones
@@SphericalShades to be honest with you..most western tanks lost in Ukraine where lost to the sheer amount of landmines Russia filled the land with when they pushed in that counter offensive that was the main cause of equipment lost…lancet drones where the next most common thing tanking out Ukrainian armor…atgms…artillery..Russian tanks…shovels…there are barely any videos and confirmations of those being the cause of lost Ukrainian armor….just mines really…LOTS AND LOTS OF MINES…then artillery prevents Ukraine from recovering the nato tanks with the blow tracks Soo they finish it off…hence why you don’t see Z forces riding around in captured nato equipment..compared to the absolute massive amounts of captured Russian equipment…
@@damien7157 Yea drones are CAS at best for what hes trying to get across. Think its a miscommunication between actual being on the ground and having ground targeting capability. If that was the case the f-35 or raptor is APEX
Почитал англоязычные комментарии. Могу сказать следующее: 1. При сравнении Абрамса и танков серии Т никто не учитывает стоимость. А правда ли, что 2 танка Абрамс лучше, чем 4-5 танков Т-90? 2. Говорят, что мы не можем модернизировать танки. Нет электронных компонентов, чипов и так далее. Во много это правда. Например мы только начинаем выпуск тепловизоров. И они хуже, чем зарубежные. Но знаете, это еще не значит, что у нас нет зарубежных. Кока-Кола у нас вроде тоже не продается 😂 Как и некоторые автомобили. Например мерседес. В конце концов наши ракеты по-прежнему производятся. И если в них действительно чипы из украинских стиральных машин, значит и в танках будут они же. 3. Не принимается во внимание, что западные танки намного тяжелее. Что имеет значение на украинских черноземах. Потому что не важно, как хороша ваша броня и пушка, ваша двигательная устанвка и трансмиссия, если вы сидите в грязи по самую башню, а для ПТРК или дрона вы попрежнему уязвимы. 4. Современные противотанковые средства прекрасно уничтожают любые танки. Сами же танки в современном мире не предназначены для борьбы против танков, хотя и могут это делать. Их главное назначение поддержка и прорыв. А для борьбы с ними хороши дроны, мины и ПТУР. В том числе размещенные на вертолетах, находящихся на небольшой высоте, для меньшей заметномти ПВО, но на удалении от боя около 7 километров. Поэтому сравнивать танки друг с другом можно, но не нужно. Потому что это глупо. Способны западные танки выполнять задачи прорыва и поддержки? Да. А русскиие? Тоже. А вот насколько хорошо те и другие могут это делать зависит от многих факторов. От грунта. Проходимости местности. Качества фортификаций и минных заграждений. Насыщенности фронта противотанковыми средствами. Господства в воздухе. Артиллерии. И даже наличия достаточно прочных мостов или достаточного количества срециальной техники для развертывания мостов. От мотивированности и обученности экипажа. И не следует забывать о снабжении и обслуживании. Короче, танки войну не выигрывают. Войну выигрывают люди. Когда всё хорошо спланировано и воплощено, когда неодиданности и сюрпризы предугаданы, когда есть готовность идти вперед и нести потери, тогда будет победа. Даже если проигрвваешь технологически. Кстати, мы с таким уже сталкивались. 5. В текущем конфликте вообще не важно, какой танк лучше. Украина проигрывает. Даже если западные танки лучше, то их недостаточно. И не танки являются главной силой этого конфликта, а артиллерия. 6. Если возникнет конфликт между Россией и США с НАТО, то качество танков тоже не будет иметь значения. Ибо в ход неизбежно пойдет ядерное оружие. Как минимум тактическое. Ну или Россия сдастся. Во что я не верю. Вывод: плевать, какой танк лучше. У талибов их вообще не было, но мне кажется в план США не входила передача Афганистана талибам )))
“The tanks themselves in the modern world are not designed to fight against tanks” Are you stupid? Report this Russian propaganda account for misinformation.
As a regular American to you, I can say without any hesitation that most American's do not want to be an enemy of Russia anymore than any other country. We are not our government and you are not your government. Prior to this, I had hopes of traveling to all of Europe, the western countries of the UK, France, Germany, Spain, etc. I also had hopes of traveling to Eastern ones like Russia, where I could experience the history, culture, food, etc. I know there is personal feelings of anger from you guys post collapse of the Soviet Union, but I can say prior to the invasion of Ukraine that almost no one in America looked at Russia as our enemy anymore.
@@seb_1504 Dude, you don't need credentials to know how tanks work. Newton's first law is understandable to everyone on this planet (except probably you) because it's common knowledge you can learn. It's not rocket science, buddy.
@@DR-JOHN-DEJAVU-1984 as a war thunder player his points are irrelevant because war thunder its tanks v tanks not tanks v anti tank assets like drones atgms and mines.
Yeah this legend of Russia burning many tanks and thousand of men for a few meter ground ... we have videos of the battlefields now and there is not a single video ever that backs this claim.
I don't know where this people get their info, they make it look like if Russia were fighting this war like the Soviet Union did in WWII where they had more manpower than equipment, true is Russia must be the most powerful army at present day, troops and weapons, trained and built to fight a real war, and not the usual guerillas NATO have been fighting the last 40 years.
@@TotalyRandomUsername Weird... because i have seen countless videos by now of Russian tanks that were abandoned after getting hit by drones or mines?
@@m_lies Sure and you can see the same videos about Ukraine tanks. It is called propaganda. The only sources you can trust are neutral OSI channels like defence politics asia. Acording to them Russia is fighting for one and a halve year an extremly conservative war.
"Smallest numbers"? There are more M1 Abrams tanks in the world than there are T-90s, Challengers, and Leopards combined. Don't compare the M1 to an obsolete piece of trash like the T-72
This guy is literally here just to comment 'Wow, you don't know the exact classification of a tank you see? Were you even in the military?' My guy you literally just answered your own question. Why would a NAVY veteran be extremely knowledgeable about ARMY vehicles? The fact you think a simple mistake like that is 'hilarious'...
If you are an expert, you should atleast know what tank you are talking about. T72 and T80 are very different tanks. Its not like confusing variants of the same tank.
@bellidrael7457 If someone claims hes an expert in the navy he should remain in his territory, in this case it is the naval warfare and hes far away from the ocean, its pure trashtalk and the biggest downer on this, is the fact that hes most likely a dedicated soldier but when they claim they have knowledge outside of their actual knowledge it is bullshit and i lost all respect for this man.
@@STRYKER1467 To be fair, he's just a script reader and may not even have known what images would be shown in the video. Yes, in that context bothering to state his alleged qualifications (Navy!) is a bit of a howler.
I enjoyed the video. But Russian tanks are good for countries with cheap human life resources like Russia and Africa. Africa is a continent and not a country for your inforamtion.
The drone has caused quite a predicament for tanks but once the top armor is beefed up with DP and anti RF jammer and counter measures incorporated in the overall design i don't think the drone will be such a threat as they are now
@@lostplanet1931 But why? I've got a 120 mm canon which carries me, up to 1000 mm of effective armour, a warm place to sleep and if I die, it will be instantly in an explosion. You've got a 5.56 mm rifle which you carry, trench foot, dysentery and if you die, it will be slowly and in agony.
@@oliverrugg3732 when a tiny cheap drone hits a big slow tank where do the surviving soldiers go? To a trench. Not the other way around. I get your point but in todays war your very screwed with mines, anti tank personnel, drones and so on.
Both are important, but their roles can vary depending on the context of the fight. Tanks are effective in direct contact with the enemy and in support of ground troops, while drones can provide strategic reconnaissance and air strikes. Their effectiveness depends on the type of combat and the environment.
@@swe1733 I have to agree. Breaks my heart as a former tanker, but drones changed things even more than the javelin or air power could, for a lot less $$$.
Insider: "The tank is apex predator of ground warfare". Some random conscript with a week of training using a cheap portable anti-tank system: "and i took that personally".
Exactly, it's like we are forgetting that these Ukrainian soldiers mostly exist of people learning everything in just merely weeks instead of years like a normal soldier would. Ofcourse they are going to die more!
He's an acting navy guy without any truth nor understanding today's Attritional warfare systems. Not tanks, but drones, robots, missiles and artillery win battles to wars. Russia has those for the next decade and more.
@@billcarpenter5271 Tanks are still very important in warfare, they take territory, especially heavily fortified territory. Drones, missiles, and artillery make it a problem getting them into said territory. And that problem extends to APCs, infantry, and anyone else trying to pass a field.
This is a very very bad summary of the actual tank situation, it actually is not one at all. When he mentioned that Russia is using T50 without explainting that they are not used as battletanks at all, i knew the rest will be nonsens. I skipped it at the five minute mark. Waste of time.
Comparing tanks is useless. They only hit soft targets which do not require up to date optics, armor, reloading speed, etc. The T55 does exactly what the Abrams does and it even has a better destroyed ratio!
'The tank is the apex predator' LOL Not any more. How many tank kills are from tank-on-tank fights? Seems that most tank kills are from drones, IFV or just infantry. Tanks are incredibly vulnerable today.
Tanks have always been vulnerable. Shoulder-fired antitank weapons were taking them out in WW2. Aircraft have been taking them out since WWII. Artillery will always be taking them out. It isn't some new thing.
Wait "Russia is sacrificing troops and tanks to achieve battlefield victories"?? You don't say. It's almost like this is like basic warfare. What else would they be used for?
@svensvensson2724 No, its because Russia is very well known for just throwing soldier after soldier at their problems. They have done it every war for the past 100+ years. They win with numbers, little else, and they stick with what tbey know.
@@svensvensson2724 The Russian knows nothing but to fight because it's in their blood, right? And terrorize all the surrounding states around. Every country around Russia has a negative opinion of Russians and for a reason because they know what a Russian is. Ripped off, impoverished, deceived, silenced but with a gun in hand. And Ukraine or Zelenskyy are not to blame for this, but primarily the Russians and Putin's propaganda. Russia is simply a warmonger
@@svensvensson2724 Snipe with such and old fire control system it can barely be efective beyond 2km in excelent conditions, once anything modernish spots it, its done.
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You do know that packing and unpacking those tanks cost money right? You cant just drove them on the road all the way from NATO country to Ukraine. They most likely pack them on a train. Not sure if the cost is $200m but it will still be expensives considering u also need to send the spareparts and ammo for the tanks
@@happychappy492at least 80% of them then are still in service. Dont forget that there is no guarantee that all the abrams destroyed by russia is real. Last year russia claims that it destroyed over 40 himars, but only 16 real ones were sent, the rest are decoys made in czechia😂!
The Abrams is so good, they last about 1 or 2 days when deployed before they are destroyed. Virtually all the Challengers and Leopards are destroyed. Ukraine is so good about not attacking, they've lost 600,000 soldiers. Russia, less than 100,000. Mr. Insider here, is clueless about what he's talking about
Yet Americans rant and rant about the superiority of their M1 tanks that had to be taken out of the fight beause of crews inexperienced in this new kind of warfare that the russians have two years of experience fighting.
@@global.citizens Exactly, buddy. Shocking isn't it? Who can imagine what would have gone wrong with giving ammunition productions to private, secretive and largely unregulated companies while simultaneously making those companies sole monopolies shall have horrible consequences?
@@markarmage3776 who would ever think ... the oligarchs who want to keep the control of their influence zone against the globalists who litterly try to own the world monopoly in everything to enslave us completly.
Well, you watched “enemy at the gates” in exactly the same way with one rifle between three, because why would the director lie to us based on historical documents?
@@definitelyfrank9341 It’s a pity, in this film everything is according to the cranberry canons: one rifle for three soldiers, a massive wave attack and an NKVD barrage detachment shooting at the backs of the Red Army soldiers. Well, where would we be without the main character, who wins in spite of himself? oh yes, and a Jewish political instructor and Khrushchev’s disgusting mug
Tanks USED TO BE the " apex predator of ground warfare" . But now they are too vulnerable to mines / missiles / drones / artillery. Wake up !!! The age of the tank is over .. a teenager on a sofa 40 miles away can destroy a tank using a drone that the tank can't even SEE. If the tank COULD detect the drone ... it can't stop it. Tank gun range 5 miles ?? Guided missile range 10 miles, cost of a mine or a drone = $1500 ? Cost of a tank = $ 10 million ... and you have to train the crew for years and keep the tank in repair and supply it with fuel and expensive ammo.
While I agree with all your points, you can't say they aren't still useful. Just diminished in effectiveness. I would still hate to be a Russian in a tank going up against an Abrahams. But more importantly, because trump wants to suck Putin's schwantz, and be a Dick-Tater himself, we are not able to supply Ukraine right now with what they really need. (whatever that may be).
I have to disagree on that, even if we can agree this video is total BS. Tanks can capture and hold ground, mines, missiles, drones and artillery cannot.
Tanks use by itself is obselete. Was never a winning strategy anyway. But tanks used as a combined warfare to take and hold territory with infantry is invaluable. Something missiles, artillery, mines or drones can't. As shown from the wars in Iraq, air power will take out most of the missile threats, artillery and other aircraft. Small drones like what Ukraine uses are not that much of a danger to modern western tanks and the Russians have been using electronic warfare to a good deal of success. Mines might be a problem, it will slow an advance but using mine clearing explosives and mine clearing tanks can greatly reduce the danger. The most important thing is air power which Ukraine basically has none and the west has in much greater superiority in tech and numbers over Russia like what they did with Saddam's Soviet made fighters. As shown by past wars, the one who rules the sky always win. And I'm talking winning militarily, not losing due to political wishy washy will to fight.
@@joeiborowski9763 "Tanks use by itself is obselete. Was never a winning strategy anyway. But tanks used as a combined warfare to take and hold territory with infantry is invaluable." You contradicted yourself, and me. They still have their value. just like rifles, drones, etc.
For the last time: the auto loader is not a design flaw. Its a tradeoff. The soviet style tanks are all smaller, and don't need a loader. Yes, there are bustle auto loaders but there is a reason why they are so rare. The Russians are using the same reliable auto loader design since the 70s. Also, both the Leo 2 and the Challenger 2 have ammo stowages in the hull that, if hit, result in the same "jack in the box" effect as we have seen evidence of that in Ukraine. So much for MUH DESIGN FLAW. Abrams is the only tank that is truly immune to catastrophic ammo cook-offs but even the Abrams has a problem with the ammo burning through the bottom of the bustle rack and ruining the engine deck. Also I shouldn't have clicked on the video. I already knew what was coming when I saw the T80 on the thumbnail (because of the rear exhaust) and saw it being labeled as a T90. I am just disappointed that I was right...
@@ArcticVXR1 there are underwater, water surface drones, ground drones, air drones, and even air drones fly very low, most fighter jets rarely get so low in combat as highest altitude for drones.
@@KamBar2020 because they are cheap, USA even with printing trillions of dollars have not built a working hypersonic missile. Better spend these trillions on magic stealth F-35, and pocket the money and buy all kinds of stocks, like Tesla, SpaceX, Amazon, Google, Apple, Facebook, etc.
@@genuz The Ukrainians used armoured columns and infantry, just as the Russians. Either they are both using this so called "human wave" tactic or nobody is, since they are using almost exactly the same tactics, which is artillery, armoured vehicles and infantry.
@@carta8399 they used armored columns for the first 5 days, then they switched to 5 man squads of soldiers when the armored columns couldn't get past the minefields. They never had much artillery during those pushes which is why they failed so horribly. Oh wait, you thought they reached Crimea?
@@genuz No, of course not, I am saying that both sides are using the same tactics, the Ukrainians whenever they can, and that no one is using human waves.
@@carta8399 I don't know, I think Ukraine and Russia fight very differently. Russia have had the best luck with combined warfare and small unit tactics, Ukraine have had the best luck with manuevre warfare and their worst with small unit tactics. I don't remember seing them do the same exact thing at any point in time.
i love how 95% of people in the comment talk about "that tank is more modern so it will beat this old one" have absolutely, no goddamn idea of the technical specifications of those vehicles not even those publically available a T72A the very first model in the 70 that flanck an M1A2 sepV3 and shoot it on the side will DESTROY IT it can even go through the front it is where you shot that matters not the hardware installed which only slightly increase the vehicle efficiency each upgrades, tank modernity matter very little on a tank vs tank battle, which does not happen in a war like ukraine, cause there is no big tanks division deployements
Good lord, y'all want to know how bias this video is? Just wrong, he never mentioned anything about all NATO vehicles destroyed and taken from Ukrainian forces, which Russia was showing off about two weeks ago, like an Abrams tanks. Also, all the equipment destroyed and captured? Why is he only saying that only Russia have lost so many tanks, when in fact they both have lost many tanks and military equipment? by the way, I thought he was an experts on aircraft carrier and marine tactics? C'mon stop this narrative or y'all won't be considered a trusted source anymore
of course Ukraine is losing tanks because it is a war. but Ukraine was given 30 Abrams, about 100 Leopards and 30 Challengers. Russia had 3,300 tanks by 2022. just think about that difference. if Russia had not had catastrophic losses, it would have already won the war. it is enough to simply see the broken columns of the Russians in February - March 2022 to understand how heavy losses Russia is bearing
T-54/55 and T-62 are used for indirect fire. They have indirect fire sight. Those sights weren't great even back in the day those tanks were new, but they have them. And Russians have massive amount of shells for them, so why not use them? Lack of accuracy is complemented by drones that are used for fire correction. That still makes them useful. Besides, any tank if hit by modern ATGMs or drones will go down, regardless how modern or not the tank is. As for famous carousel and "jack in the box" where turrets pop up, it turned out that almost never are those caused by the ammo in the carousel being directly hit. Usually it is the additional ammo being stored all over the tank being hit that ignites, cooks off (at which point it makes no difference to the crew whether the carousel ammo will also get cooked off; they're done for any way) and then it reaches the carousel and you have those explosion. Both Russian and Ukrainian tank crews started going into battle with ammo in the carousel only (22 rounds) and with 0 additional ammo in tank hull and turret. And what do you know... The images of popped up turrets are now pretty rare, as opposed to the start of the confrontation...
When a Western specialist speaks about "The Soviet Doctrine of human wave mongolian horse archers horde tactics", I feel safe for Russia, as long as NATO has this level of competence.
Tanks were the apex predator until the drone entered the battle space. A $200 drone can destroy a 10 million dollar tank. Who’s the real apex predator?
Drones are nothing new to battlefield. It's like. Saying Airforce is useless because enemy have anti-aircraft missiles. Drones you reffering to are commercial and can be easily jamed. If you have C4 you can destroy tank, but first get up close to it. While moving in formation with support and jamming and anti air support.
Russia doe the disabling job of drones with EW means that no other country in the world has. However, when Russia turns off their Ew tech in order to pave way for their own drone to work effectively, Ukraine exploits the same window to make brake throughs with their drones too.@@verdebusterAP
Guys Modern Battle Tanks were like Battleship during WW2 where it become obsolete when Carrier with planes (Drones today) destroy battleship much easier than battleship vs battleship.
Wow are you sure because the country without a navy to demolish another countries Black sea fleet is very impressive. Pushing back the enemy and taking back great amounts of land from Kiev, Kharkiv offensives and Kherson was done. With attacks within Russia attacking oil and other key facilities instead of hitting civilian targets like Russia has done is taking its toll. Yes to a degree they failed last year in the counteroffensive but the war isn't over yet. Three days lol.
Ukraine has lost over 600KM (654 I think) of land over the past year of 2024, and this guy is talking about them "Not willing to give up territory, but take it back"? What war is he watching?!
Hahaha not surprised by the content already knew the answer before I had seen the video, wasted my time, with the "military expert" or rather the "west expert" 😅🤦
M1-A1. NOT M1. The M1A1 (and all its variants up to the M1A2 through to the proposed SEP 4 version) has a 120mm main gun. The M1 Is the first generation of the, Abrams which sported a 105mm gun. I know you were trying to shorten the name for brevity, but in doing so, you were saying the wrong piece of equipment. Ukraine received ALL M1A1 (sub variants) tanks. If you are going to make a video about tanks, then one of two things needs to happen. Be more specific or put a pinned post or say it in the video that all variants of the, Abrams will be called the M1 for the purpose of this video. Same thing can be said about the Leopards. Also, why is a squid making a video about tanks? No offence but for you it was and always will be a hobby. This was never your career or life in these pieces of equipment.
Meh. Even when you have expertise in this exact sort of comparison, no one listens. Its frustrating. All experts are impeachable now or easily disbelieved if it doesnt fit your own conclusion.
It's had to believe that the Russians have destroyed some abraham tanks,i remember US army personnel say this will be a game changer for the war and defeat russia in Ukraine. It is really crazy of russia to parade these tanks in Moscow.
Id be surprised if they actually believed that. Even though Western tanks are better, ~30 Abrams and ~80 Leopards 2s are very small numbers in a war as large as this one
Who said "game changer" about 30 tanks? What are you smoking? Long-range ATACMs and F-16's *WIDE RANGE OF MISSILES AND BOMBS* can change something. Not some two companies of tanks. The F-16s as a fighter jet do not matter. It's a platform which takes ALL types of air "assets".
And Russia is just full of properganda naratives. Example Nazis in Ukraine the president is Jewish and out of the 400 or more seats in thier parliment one is Asov. And the list of BS goes on.
bro proceeds to show t90, while the T90M is not shown in a single footage, T90-M is the better competititor to m1a2 !! bro doesnt know !! Also: Yes. T90M is in service in ukraine ~150
How come Americans gave ukranians everything but tanks? Only about 30 were given, all of them are destroyed… Seems like somebody doesn’t want to lose fACE, but some navy weirdo is here to tell us all about the tanks. How ukranians have no soldiers any more to mobilize by the way?
finally people wake up from the mainstream american cheap propaganda. its always important to teach the new generations of the wisdom and the ability to see far, else the history is likely to be repeated
Jet engine? What are you, 5? It's a gas turbine. What you call a "jet engine" is a gas turbine with open flow. Currently used jet engines are just rocket engines. Fighter jets use engines commonly known as turbo-jets (gas turbines with open flame exhaust - open flow). The M1 uses a gas turbine with a shaft. It is closer to the internal combustion engine than to the jet.
Traditional rear artillery never disappear, its really cheap, cost-effective and very synergetic with drones. Its just human crew will be cut out of equation, same AI will control swarm of observer drones that spot enemies for swarm of bomb drones and automated artillery pieces. Russia now test ground drones, small light tanks without crew that use machinegun, mine-sweeping equipment and can deliver supply for frontline squads. This is what will replace ordinary tanks eventually,
@@NruBseyE What you say will happen at first, manufacturers will resist to stop producing these expensive dinosaurs. But facts will prove that a large, expensive, heavy, slow, complex and for the worse, manned device cannot compete against small, two or three orders of magnitude cheaper, faster, relatively simpler and disposable weapons. A tank on the battlefield is something like a full wallet lying on the street, something that invites to be stolen. And what the enemy steals from the tank is all the money it cost... in exchange for a small sum. Do not confuse lethality with invulnerability.
It is and always has been artillery. It can kill you and you'll never see it, hear it, or even know what's coming until it's too late. At least with drones you have a chance to run.
@@kaspervestergaard2383 so little you know. The PG-7VL and PG-7VR fired from a camel rider can and has taken out the Abrams. I'll trust what the actual tankers have to say over your BS anyday.
@@MenacingWithVideos i have no idea but i do know that any conflict the US has been involved in prior to Ukraine had total air and artillery superiority. I just ran across a vidoe with the Ukrainians talking about the Abrams with its problems in the conflict. They spoke of lack of armor, humidity knocking out electronics, the weight and how prone they are to drones being huge downfalls along with not having the correct ammunition when needed. To many AP rnds and not enough HE. He said they've fired 20 rnds into a building trying to knock it down. He also said that in this conflict the abrams primary use is as artillery not tank to tank. If i can find the video I'll share it. Any time an Abrams shows up thry are tracked down and eliminated or disabled. Then there's the huge amount of fuel to operate and the maintenance issues. As fsr as i know they pulled the Leopards off the front also for the most part. He said the Abrams and Leopards are hunted like trophy animals.
Former Leopard tank crew here, this guy spits bs about tanks , bye bye
you sounds more like a former T-72 crew here 😀
Yea this is honestly just sad. Too many counter points to even bother typing them.
@@nicoedel5606 Why does being against the points he mentioned in the video make me an enemy to you? It's funny to see that anyone going against the official narrative is immediately considered as fake or an opponent
@@nicoedel5606 just using emoji tells you are here trollingf
@@makarovj6871 He's a bot. I wouldn't waste your time on him. He and his masters think having a sock down your pants makes you well-endowed.
It does not.
Wow this guy is an expert? Tanks are not the apex predator of this war. Drones, artillery and missiles are.
He is an expert. Propagandist expert that is.
He said they are the apex predators of the battlefield…
Yes its a hyperbole but also not completely wrong…
@@s1nn1ck Agree, so much editing and cuts in the video.
Not drones. Drones, as everyone understands them, are a nuisance. The 'apex predator' is the Lancet. Everything the Switchblade/Excalibur/Javelin/GLSDB/etc failed to be and more. Its accurate, its long range, its deadly, its easy and its cheap. They just started fielding the improved generation and a new even more capable variant is due for deployment mid to late summer.
I think he also got around that it sort of was the apex predator, but that drones etc has taken that power away from them.
"The tank is the apex predator of ground warfare."
Artillery: *Listen here you little shi-*
I read a quote about the artillery will get grind away everything in it's path to get you.
UA fpv says hello
Drone: let me introduce myself
Hello, HIMARS, here. Tanks are delicious!
@@T--kq3pj I don't count drones as "Apex predators" because they can be countered.
You can't counter an artillery shell
The real warfare is in the comment section lmao.
Seems one-sided for me
@@fertfert4661 One-sided, like the recent situation on the frontline.
@@aleksandarrudic3694 on the Fortnite.
Facts lol
there is no war because every comment says the same thing that this guy is just another blind believer of fake news from west
Says T90 in the title, shows a picture of a T80. Nice
You think this propaganda channels care about accuracy?
its a t90a which is from 2004
What do you expect of a propaganda kanal from USA.
@@STRYKER1467 This is what they spend their tax's on no wonder the people there are angry with this BS
T80 is better than a T90 anyways.
Apparently, being a 'navy veteran' does not make you a military analyst and strategist. Who would have thought.
Appealing to credentials is pathetic, navy veteran or not you don't need credentials to be right or possess information, especially in this day and age of where information is so widely accessible.
@@Ripa-Moramee Is the information so widely available? And how often do you listen and watch Russian media, Italian, Chinese, German, Ukrainian and other sources of information that are not in English for the sake of objective perception?
I like the part where you couldn't point out any data-point he was wrong about.
Not many tracked vehicles in the navy I think.
@@jjhpor you'd be surprised.
Anyone else come to read the comments.
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Ukranians will never forgive Russia after this war. They willl be blood enemies
Navy vet. Guess he's qualified to compare tanks, I mean I bet he's seen them before at distance.
I'm a navy vet also but damned near choked when he often referred to Russia as Soviet. I too share your sentiment of what does he know about tanks? It would be comparable to an army vet pretending to be an expert on naval ships of the line.
Very lame analysis.
Exactly what I said the moment he said he's Navy.
He's just reading common knowledge about the war
@@kenkruger481 Whats the difference between soviet and russian? Same tanks, same strategy, only different regime
Thats right hes just doing propaganda obviously
The apex predators of this war are ingenuity and adaptability.
The Apex Predator now is the drone...changes wars from now on.
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drones and missiles are the most important
@@sababugs1125 Arguably infantry is
You don't know what an "apex predator" is. Ingenuity and adaptability are attributes and NOT "an apex predator."
"I am a navy veteran so let me lecture you on attritional warfare on the ground..."
Ikr? I'm a downhill skier. Let me tell you about helicopters
He knows better than you tbh
@@reviewchan9806 i do not give lame commentary to media however
You are irrelevant
Well.... what would it look like if it was someone from the USMC? hahaha
No offense to the SME, but he has not indicated what experience or knowledge qualifies him to speak on this topic. Maybe he is an intelligence analyst in the navy, but as it is I have no reason to accept his supposed expertise over that of others.
"The Tank is apex predator of ground warfare"
Random FPV Drone:- Really?
He already said ground warfare, unless you are a RC FPV car drone
@@kennyleung2001
an apex predator that can be taken down by a simple drone isnt that much of a predator...
Drones fly, so they are not considered ground warfare. Amazing that you don't understand that.
@@Jonathan-Pilkington Bullets and rockets fly through the air too, I guess by your logic all warfare except bayonets is air warfare
Yes, an FPV drone can pose a potential threat to an Abrams tank, especially if it is equipped with an explosive or other weapon. However, the success of an FPV drone attack on an Abrams tank would depend on several factors:
1. **Accuracy of attack**: FPV drones require skillful control and precise navigation to reach the target. A successful attack would require precise navigation and proper placement of the attack on the tank's critical location.
2. **Tank armor protection**: The Abrams tank has strong armor protection that can withstand minor explosions and gunfire. Successfully damaging the tank would require sufficient attack power and accuracy.
3. **Air Defense**: The Abrams tank can be equipped with air defense systems that could detect and defend against drone attacks.
4. **Crew Response**: Experienced and well-trained Abrams tank crews could effectively respond to an FPV drone threat and minimize its effect.
While an FPV drone could pose a potential threat to an Abrams tank, the success of an attack would depend on many factors and may not always be guaranteed. Therefore, it is important to consider the various factors and capabilities of the parties involved when assessing threats.
"The tank is the apex predator of ground warfare"
Some random cheap FPV drone: "nuh-uh!"
The tank is the grizzily bear. The FPV is a mosquito carrying a deadly disease.
The tank is the Apex predator.
@@lifevest1 the fpv is the cracked up Florida man pissed off that the bear fucked around on his property and is now posted up in the forest with a pipe rifle .50 cal
Our lady of armor penetration, Saint Javelin agrees.
One drone is not enough to cripple a tank
Cheap propaganda 😂😂
Yeah its basically just an ad for tank manufacturers even though the ukranians are just popping them all the time.
To be honest US air power is so ridiculously overpowered it doesn’t matter if the M1 is obsolete since air superiority will just allow massive precision bombing of enemy forces well before the tanks arrive to enter the battle. I do have a lot of respect for the Russian military but they have been underfunded for decades and are a sad shell of the Soviet military. But it might not even matter if the US just ends up falling into a civil war as it seems to be heading
@@Alastair_Adanathe number 1 problem of ukraine is the Lack of airpower
@@jaegar2004 they had Airpower... it simply got sweapt away...
Abdalla! Abdalla! The cheapeast propaganda is still the Russian one. But life of Russians and theri african friends is cheap Abdallla.
Are you the same guy who said Russians were fighting with shovels and wash machine micro chips?
Russia has been salvaging chips out of washing machines and anything else I can get them out of because they can't get them because of sanctions.
@@badmonkey2222
You forgot the shovels.
Russia had been digging In shernoble killing multiple enemy's of the Russian state (Russian, Russians are the enemy of the state, shhh.)
@@badmonkey2222
If this is irony: 😅
If you're serious: 🤡
@@h2didenkovthere are also the air coolers 😂 the best russian secret weapon
I don't know what anyone else expected from a Business Insider video
Western tanks are an extremely small minority of the tanks Ukraine uses. Most of their tanks are old Soviet T-64s.
Also ukrainian T-64. Built or upgraded to ukrainian standards.
But new and new military equipment continues to flow into Ukraine. The US announced another military package, Denmark and more...
@@Adam-l2g They barely have anything to send.
And one of the american politicians arguments for giving the money was that 90% stays in USA.
Even if they had the stuff to give it wouldn't be enough.
@@svensvensson2724 That's enough, America has at least more weapons than Russia or can produce them faster and they have the best army and the best weapons on top of that and have a bigger, stronger, more dynamic and powerful economy. According to SIPRI (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute) estimates, the United States of America has more military weapons than Russia. The US has the largest military budget in the world and possesses a wide range of weapons, including nuclear, conventional and advanced technology.
@@Adam-l2g Russia has the largest and most modern collecton of missiles in the world, including nukes.
They make 3 times more tanks than all of NATO and 10 times more artillery ammunition.
And if USA wants to move their military to Europe there's a whole big ocean full of submarines and nukes they need to cross without sinking.
“ would not find me in a Russian made tank” I don’t think we would find you in any combat scenario bud
Russian tanks are not poor quality its how the crew use the machine that matters
Because the Abraham has a good track record against drones too?? I haven’t seen one video to back this up
@@paulroustan3643 the abrahams what tank is that is that abrams tanks wit a abraham lincoln beard
@@smeagol7247 a machine gun should shoot and not fascinate with its beauty
Tous les tankistes russes seront un jour des cosmonautes pendant quelques secondes 🤣🤣🤣
Ukraine has turned a lot of tank commanders into cosmonauts.
Funny how russian tank turrets go:💥🚀🚀
@@Random_merkava_enjoyer you realise that you are dumb since t64 has same autoloader as t80, since its the same tank only t64 is more expensive to produce. And 90% of what Ukraine had before the war is produced in USSR
@@GoogIeMaiISupport your Pfp fits you
I love how they refer to T series tank as "soviet-era relics"; It's not like the Abrams and the Leopard 2 were from a different period lmao
Abrams and leopard 2 are more modern than T-72… did you even listen to the video?
@@bingobongo1615 No they aren't. These tanks are all from the 70's and 80's.
@@makarovj6871 a modern porsch 911 is the same as a porsch 911 from the 80's?
@@jim-kp5he Do 80's 911's have upgrade factories like Russian tanks???
@@bingobongo1615 latest T-72/80/90 are more modern than versions of Leopards and M1 that are sent to Ukraine
Did he just wake up from a coma, asleep since 1944. You can't BS anymore
Actually you can. The amount of BS is 100x more since the early 2020 😂
Please explain every single lie so we know?
Hey hello?
This guy is expert on western media talking points...that have no base in reality😂
tell me the Russian points? explain why t55 and turtles are un use and explain the death rate after turret tosses.
леопарды и абрамсы горят как все другие танки а челенджеры спрятали чтобы не позориться?
@@edthebumblingfool if you need that explaining, you are not the one I should explain it to....
you need to learn some basics....
survival in Russian tank when its 100% destroyed is about 85%....and most turret tosses happen long after crew abandons tank....
now go learn basics and maybe watch some videos why turtle tank is so succesfull...I dont have time to teach kids
@@Lipi19821 So you are the guy doing statistics for the russian military? How about you get into one of those safe russian tanks and fight for your fuhrer.
@@Lipi19821 the ammo doesnt cook off 5 minutes later, it cooks off when a round explodes, which happens very often and very fast
Even before i click on the video, i already know the answer 😂😂
Hahaha for real man😂
Turret space program
what is the answer?
Both tanks Died By Artillery, Mines, Atgm, DRONES, and the infamous Laser Guided Shovel
Its just Western Better in safety ergonomics and specs by bit, but doesnt matter if Your LeopardA6 still died by drones
@@SphericalShades to be honest with you..most western tanks lost in Ukraine where lost to the sheer amount of landmines Russia filled the land with when they pushed in that counter offensive that was the main cause of equipment lost…lancet drones where the next most common thing tanking out Ukrainian armor…atgms…artillery..Russian tanks…shovels…there are barely any videos and confirmations of those being the cause of lost Ukrainian armor….just mines really…LOTS AND LOTS OF MINES…then artillery prevents Ukraine from recovering the nato tanks with the blow tracks Soo they finish it off…hence why you don’t see Z forces riding around in captured nato equipment..compared to the absolute massive amounts of captured Russian equipment…
"a tank is an apex predator of a battlefield" i dont want to hear a single word more
Bro you cant even quote a sentence you heard seconds ago. Take an IQ test and cut your internet cable
and what is a drone?
@@damien7157 apex predator gets hunted by a bee
@@damien7157 a fpv drone team is part of a ground force just like any other AT teams
@@damien7157 Yea drones are CAS at best for what hes trying to get across. Think its a miscommunication between actual being on the ground and having ground targeting capability. If that was the case the f-35 or raptor is APEX
so no one's gonna tell us that the abrams tanks that went on the battlefield were destroyed and captured on the first day xD
Почитал англоязычные комментарии. Могу сказать следующее:
1. При сравнении Абрамса и танков серии Т никто не учитывает стоимость. А правда ли, что 2 танка Абрамс лучше, чем 4-5 танков Т-90?
2. Говорят, что мы не можем модернизировать танки. Нет электронных компонентов, чипов и так далее. Во много это правда. Например мы только начинаем выпуск тепловизоров. И они хуже, чем зарубежные. Но знаете, это еще не значит, что у нас нет зарубежных. Кока-Кола у нас вроде тоже не продается 😂 Как и некоторые автомобили. Например мерседес. В конце концов наши ракеты по-прежнему производятся. И если в них действительно чипы из украинских стиральных машин, значит и в танках будут они же.
3. Не принимается во внимание, что западные танки намного тяжелее. Что имеет значение на украинских черноземах. Потому что не важно, как хороша ваша броня и пушка, ваша двигательная устанвка и трансмиссия, если вы сидите в грязи по самую башню, а для ПТРК или дрона вы попрежнему уязвимы.
4. Современные противотанковые средства прекрасно уничтожают любые танки. Сами же танки в современном мире не предназначены для борьбы против танков, хотя и могут это делать. Их главное назначение поддержка и прорыв. А для борьбы с ними хороши дроны, мины и ПТУР. В том числе размещенные на вертолетах, находящихся на небольшой высоте, для меньшей заметномти ПВО, но на удалении от боя около 7 километров.
Поэтому сравнивать танки друг с другом можно, но не нужно. Потому что это глупо. Способны западные танки выполнять задачи прорыва и поддержки? Да. А русскиие? Тоже. А вот насколько хорошо те и другие могут это делать зависит от многих факторов. От грунта. Проходимости местности. Качества фортификаций и минных заграждений. Насыщенности фронта противотанковыми средствами. Господства в воздухе. Артиллерии. И даже наличия достаточно прочных мостов или достаточного количества срециальной техники для развертывания мостов. От мотивированности и обученности экипажа. И не следует забывать о снабжении и обслуживании. Короче, танки войну не выигрывают. Войну выигрывают люди. Когда всё хорошо спланировано и воплощено, когда неодиданности и сюрпризы предугаданы, когда есть готовность идти вперед и нести потери, тогда будет победа. Даже если проигрвваешь технологически. Кстати, мы с таким уже сталкивались.
5. В текущем конфликте вообще не важно, какой танк лучше. Украина проигрывает. Даже если западные танки лучше, то их недостаточно. И не танки являются главной силой этого конфликта, а артиллерия.
6. Если возникнет конфликт между Россией и США с НАТО, то качество танков тоже не будет иметь значения. Ибо в ход неизбежно пойдет ядерное оружие. Как минимум тактическое. Ну или Россия сдастся. Во что я не верю.
Вывод: плевать, какой танк лучше. У талибов их вообще не было, но мне кажется в план США не входила передача Афганистана талибам )))
самый аргументированный и логичный и грамотный комментарий супер!
Best comment in the entire section. Bravo.
Concordo plenamente com o comentário muito bem elaborado
“The tanks themselves in the modern world are not designed to fight against tanks” Are you stupid? Report this Russian propaganda account for misinformation.
As a regular American to you, I can say without any hesitation that most American's do not want to be an enemy of Russia anymore than any other country. We are not our government and you are not your government. Prior to this, I had hopes of traveling to all of Europe, the western countries of the UK, France, Germany, Spain, etc. I also had hopes of traveling to Eastern ones like Russia, where I could experience the history, culture, food, etc. I know there is personal feelings of anger from you guys post collapse of the Soviet Union, but I can say prior to the invasion of Ukraine that almost no one in America looked at Russia as our enemy anymore.
This is like a 16 year old Airsoft enthusiasts talking about his experience in Afghanistan firefight with Taliban.
eh, as a war thunder player, he got points.
@@Paronak Did you also graduate from the tank university of world of tanks and reddit?
Compared to you, who's some random youtube idiot with no experience whatsoever
@@seb_1504 Dude, you don't need credentials to know how tanks work.
Newton's first law is understandable to everyone on this planet (except probably you) because it's common knowledge you can learn.
It's not rocket science, buddy.
@@DR-JOHN-DEJAVU-1984 as a war thunder player his points are irrelevant because war thunder its tanks v tanks not tanks v anti tank assets like drones atgms and mines.
Thousands of losses but Ukraine is the one having manpower problems?? 😅
Yeah this legend of Russia burning many tanks and thousand of men for a few meter ground ... we have videos of the battlefields now and there is not a single video ever that backs this claim.
Send Denys Davydov back, the traitor
I don't know where this people get their info, they make it look like if Russia were fighting this war like the Soviet Union did in WWII where they had more manpower than equipment, true is Russia must be the most powerful army at present day, troops and weapons, trained and built to fight a real war, and not the usual guerillas NATO have been fighting the last 40 years.
@@TotalyRandomUsername Weird... because i have seen countless videos by now of Russian tanks that were abandoned after getting hit by drones or mines?
@@m_lies Sure and you can see the same videos about Ukraine tanks. It is called propaganda. The only sources you can trust are neutral OSI channels like defence politics asia. Acording to them Russia is fighting for one and a halve year an extremly conservative war.
"Western-made tanks"
You didn't watch the video.
@@waisinglee1509 hate to disappoint ya, but I did
"Smallest numbers"? There are more M1 Abrams tanks in the world than there are T-90s, Challengers, and Leopards combined. Don't compare the M1 to an obsolete piece of trash like the T-72
I think the Challenger was the tank sent in the least numbers
@@Nero-Caesar Ukraine aren't allowed to use the challenger at the front.
It's just for UK to brag they sent tanks.
A US."Navy" Veteran shows us a T-72 which is actually a T-80 hilarious... Veteran for what for having naval experience but not on land it seems.
This guy is literally here just to comment 'Wow, you don't know the exact classification of a tank you see? Were you even in the military?'
My guy you literally just answered your own question. Why would a NAVY veteran be extremely knowledgeable about ARMY vehicles? The fact you think a simple mistake like that is 'hilarious'...
If you are an expert, you should atleast know what tank you are talking about. T72 and T80 are very different tanks. Its not like confusing variants of the same tank.
@bellidrael7457 If someone claims hes an expert in the navy he should remain in his territory, in this case it is the naval warfare and hes far away from the ocean, its pure trashtalk and the biggest downer on this, is the fact that hes most likely a dedicated soldier but when they claim they have knowledge outside of their actual knowledge it is bullshit and i lost all respect for this man.
@@bellidrael7457 "exact classification of a tank" dimwit
@@STRYKER1467 To be fair, he's just a script reader and may not even have known what images would be shown in the video. Yes, in that context bothering to state his alleged qualifications (Navy!) is a bit of a howler.
T90 + 4,5 mill $, Abrams = 75 mill $...
thats because the T-90 is crap
not to forget abrams is extremely hungry for fuel compared to other tanks. so its operating cost is even more, way more
Why did I bother listening...
Because it is free
a bunch of lies lies lies lies from another lying lying lying propaganda kanal. I want facts not propaganda crap, shite kanal bollocks.
Either Curiosity or Boredom 🤯
Gives you something to do while reading the comments! 😄
I enjoyed the video.
But Russian tanks are good for countries with cheap human life resources like Russia and Africa.
Africa is a continent and not a country for your inforamtion.
The guy's just reshuffling bs many people with brain are already immune to 🤣
The drone has caused quite a predicament for tanks but once the top armor is beefed up with DP and anti RF jammer and counter measures incorporated in the overall design i don't think the drone will be such a threat as they are now
"Tanks aren't safe"
Wars aren't safe - would you rather be in a tank or in a trench?
Probably in a trench
Neither. They both suck.
@@lostplanet1931 But why?
I've got a 120 mm canon which carries me, up to 1000 mm of effective armour, a warm place to sleep and if I die, it will be instantly in an explosion.
You've got a 5.56 mm rifle which you carry, trench foot, dysentery and if you die, it will be slowly and in agony.
@lostplanet1931 I agree free to move anywhere
@@oliverrugg3732 when a tiny cheap drone hits a big slow tank where do the surviving soldiers go? To a trench. Not the other way around. I get your point but in todays war your very screwed with mines, anti tank personnel, drones and so on.
Artillery and mine and drone is actually making the game. There is actually never tank vs tank fight. This is no ww2.
that's not true.
Both are important, but their roles can vary depending on the context of the fight. Tanks are effective in direct contact with the enemy and in support of ground troops, while drones can provide strategic reconnaissance and air strikes. Their effectiveness depends on the type of combat and the environment.
There was a duel between a T72 and an M1, with the inferior Soviet-era tank knocking out the modern US tank.
This isn't about the tanks. It is about having tank crews who know what they are doing.
The thing is, FPV operators also know what to do on both sides.
You can train a tank crew for 10 years, but they will be destroyed by a guy trained to fly a drone in 10 days. Think about it.
@swe1733 the problem is a tank shouldn't be alone like they are doing in Ukraine. A tank is only with it's infantry and reversed.
Da! And the Russians KNOW what they doing!! (I not Russian, I promiss).
@@swe1733 I have to agree. Breaks my heart as a former tanker, but drones changed things even more than the javelin or air power could, for a lot less $$$.
Insider: "The tank is apex predator of ground warfare".
Some random conscript with a week of training using a cheap portable anti-tank system: "and i took that personally".
Exactly, it's like we are forgetting that these Ukrainian soldiers mostly exist of people learning everything in just merely weeks instead of years like a normal soldier would. Ofcourse they are going to die more!
So what are we watching here? A marine reading from a teleprompter?
He's an acting navy guy without any truth nor understanding today's Attritional warfare systems.
Not tanks, but drones, robots, missiles and artillery win battles to wars.
Russia has those for the next decade and more.
@@billcarpenter5271 Tanks are still very important in warfare, they take territory, especially heavily fortified territory. Drones, missiles, and artillery make it a problem getting them into said territory. And that problem extends to APCs, infantry, and anyone else trying to pass a field.
This is a very very bad summary of the actual tank situation, it actually is not one at all. When he mentioned that Russia is using T50 without explainting that they are not used as battletanks at all, i knew the rest will be nonsens. I skipped it at the five minute mark. Waste of time.
Feels like the insider totally missed the point of this war. Why are you comparing tanks...
Comparing tanks is useless. They only hit soft targets which do not require up to date optics, armor, reloading speed, etc. The T55 does exactly what the Abrams does and it even has a better destroyed ratio!
The thumbnail shows a t-80u and labels it as a t-90, that shows how much research they did
"The Abrams is made to destroy soviet tanks"
Also the M1 getting its cheeks clapped by a T-72's single shot
Russians as more of simple, easy to repair vehicles, easy to replace and they more prepared to long term attrition….
Nope . They just have thousands of reserve tanks. 2 more years and Russia will have zero tanks.
@@paulmitchell5349 you said it thousands, while many being produced as we speak 😅🤣
You just made that up. Why?
They have an automatic loader, that's anything but simple.
@@paulmitchell5349bro. They have factories to repair their tanks.
'The tank is the apex predator' LOL Not any more. How many tank kills are from tank-on-tank fights? Seems that most tank kills are from drones, IFV or just infantry. Tanks are incredibly vulnerable today.
How many tanks have been destroyed compared to how many infantry, IFV or drones?
People have called tanks obsolete for over 100 years.
That in itself is starting to evolve.
Tanks will always be there.
Look now the Russians make their tanks look like turtles
Still tank is the only option in ground attack because the alternative is infantry charging the front
Tanks have always been vulnerable. Shoulder-fired antitank weapons were taking them out in WW2. Aircraft have been taking them out since WWII. Artillery will always be taking them out. It isn't some new thing.
Russian tanks are definitely vulnerable.
Poper use of combined arms is what makes tanks effective, rather than cope cages and tanks with houses lol.
The bane of tanks in this conflict...
Is not enemy tanks. It is mud, mines, drones....artillery. Every tank suffers in this scenario.
Wait "Russia is sacrificing troops and tanks to achieve battlefield victories"?? You don't say. It's almost like this is like basic warfare. What else would they be used for?
He's saying that russia needlessly makes these sacrifices more than others because they are inhuman monsters.
It's nonsense.
@svensvensson2724 No, its because Russia is very well known for just throwing soldier after soldier at their problems. They have done it every war for the past 100+ years. They win with numbers, little else, and they stick with what tbey know.
@@fatsquirrel75 That's well known propaganda. Not truth.
@@svensvensson2724 The Russian knows nothing but to fight because it's in their blood, right? And terrorize all the surrounding states around. Every country around Russia has a negative opinion of Russians and for a reason because they know what a Russian is. Ripped off, impoverished, deceived, silenced but with a gun in hand. And Ukraine or Zelenskyy are not to blame for this, but primarily the Russians and Putin's propaganda. Russia is simply a warmonger
@@svensvensson2724 The "inhuman monsters" is an understatement.
No such thing as an obsolete tank.
T-55, T-62, T-34 all obsolete tanks.
@@viceralman8450 Depends what you use them for.
T-62 for example has smooth bore. It can snipe from distance with modern ammunition.
@ThePenguin30 Congratulations you proved they are obsolete ad tank, MBTs.
@@svensvensson2724 Snipe with such and old fire control system it can barely be efective beyond 2km in excelent conditions, once anything modernish spots it, its done.
@@viceralman8450 They upgrade targetting and stay at the rear.
Thank you for the update, Insider..!! Amazing war machines..!!
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re sending 35 M1 Abrams costing $200 million. Thats about the same cost as a single Russian oligarchs super yacht.
What kind of gas it required to run to get to 200M USD? Even Starship fuel is not that expensive
You do know that packing and unpacking those tanks cost money right? You cant just drove them on the road all the way from NATO country to Ukraine.
They most likely pack them on a train. Not sure if the cost is $200m but it will still be expensives considering u also need to send the spareparts and ammo for the tanks
@@descartes2404 bit over priced for something that will burn very quickly as much as any other tank
@@happychappy492at least 80% of them then are still in service. Dont forget that there is no guarantee that all the abrams destroyed by russia is real. Last year russia claims that it destroyed over 40 himars, but only 16 real ones were sent, the rest are decoys made in czechia😂!
@@happychappy492then why russia lost 3 times as many tanks?
The Abrams is so good, they last about 1 or 2 days when deployed before they are destroyed. Virtually all the Challengers and Leopards are destroyed. Ukraine is so good about not attacking, they've lost 600,000 soldiers. Russia, less than 100,000.
Mr. Insider here, is clueless about what he's talking about
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it turns out that FPV drones are the apex predators that eat tanks for breakfast
Yet Americans rant and rant about the superiority of their M1 tanks that had to be taken out of the fight beause of crews inexperienced in this new kind of warfare that the russians have two years of experience fighting.
Except turtle tank
Not even a close fight. Because one side made their tank 50 times more expensive, so any ratio of exchange less than 50 to 1 is an absolute loss.
If a russian tank costs 3 million USD, you assume an American tank costs 150 million? Are you serious?
@@global.citizens Exactly, buddy. Shocking isn't it? Who can imagine what would have gone wrong with giving ammunition productions to private, secretive and largely unregulated companies while simultaneously making those companies sole monopolies shall have horrible consequences?
@@markarmage3776 who would ever think ... the oligarchs who want to keep the control of their influence zone against the globalists who litterly try to own the world monopoly in everything to enslave us completly.
@@global.citizensI believe the point of an exaggeration was simply to point out the issue
It closer to 1:2. Little bit more, like 1: 2.2. Exchange ratio is 1. So Russian tanks win.
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“Upturned pyramids” is a term I didn’t expect to hear from a military commentator.
"Upturned pyramids"...you mean like concrete pylons or tank traps? The guy's a donut.
Russian T90 is the same price as Abrams? Really? ГЫЫЫЫ!!!
Ah yes, the 'Russian wave attacks' which we've heard so much about yet never seen.
Well, you watched “enemy at the gates” in exactly the same way with one rifle between three, because why would the director lie to us based on historical documents?
@@jah886 I haven't watched that film.
@@definitelyfrank9341 It’s a pity, in this film everything is according to the cranberry canons: one rifle for three soldiers, a massive wave attack and an NKVD barrage detachment shooting at the backs of the Red Army soldiers. Well, where would we be without the main character, who wins in spite of himself? oh yes, and a Jewish political instructor and Khrushchev’s disgusting mug
@@jah886 What does the film have to do with modern Russian military fighting tactics?
Tanks USED TO BE the " apex predator of ground warfare" . But now they are too vulnerable to mines / missiles / drones / artillery. Wake up !!! The age of the tank is over .. a teenager on a sofa 40 miles away can destroy a tank using a drone that the tank can't even SEE. If the tank COULD detect the drone ... it can't stop it. Tank gun range 5 miles ?? Guided missile range 10 miles, cost of a mine or a drone = $1500 ? Cost of a tank = $ 10 million ... and you have to train the crew for years and keep the tank in repair and supply it with fuel and expensive ammo.
While I agree with all your points, you can't say they aren't still useful. Just diminished in effectiveness. I would still hate to be a Russian in a tank going up against an Abrahams.
But more importantly, because trump wants to suck Putin's schwantz, and be a Dick-Tater himself, we are not able to supply Ukraine right now with what they really need. (whatever that may be).
I have to disagree on that, even if we can agree this video is total BS. Tanks can capture and hold ground, mines, missiles, drones and artillery cannot.
Tanks use by itself is obselete. Was never a winning strategy anyway. But tanks used as a combined warfare to take and hold territory with infantry is invaluable. Something missiles, artillery, mines or drones can't. As shown from the wars in Iraq, air power will take out most of the missile threats, artillery and other aircraft. Small drones like what Ukraine uses are not that much of a danger to modern western tanks and the Russians have been using electronic warfare to a good deal of success. Mines might be a problem, it will slow an advance but using mine clearing explosives and mine clearing tanks can greatly reduce the danger. The most important thing is air power which Ukraine basically has none and the west has in much greater superiority in tech and numbers over Russia like what they did with Saddam's Soviet made fighters. As shown by past wars, the one who rules the sky always win.
And I'm talking winning militarily, not losing due to political wishy washy will to fight.
@@joeiborowski9763 "Tanks use by itself is obselete. Was never a winning strategy anyway. But tanks used as a combined warfare to take and hold territory with infantry is invaluable." You contradicted yourself, and me. They still have their value. just like rifles, drones, etc.
@@genuz Right. Correct tools, at the prescribed place and use, as part of a wholesome military diet. : )
For the last time: the auto loader is not a design flaw. Its a tradeoff. The soviet style tanks are all smaller, and don't need a loader. Yes, there are bustle auto loaders but there is a reason why they are so rare. The Russians are using the same reliable auto loader design since the 70s. Also, both the Leo 2 and the Challenger 2 have ammo stowages in the hull that, if hit, result in the same "jack in the box" effect as we have seen evidence of that in Ukraine. So much for MUH DESIGN FLAW. Abrams is the only tank that is truly immune to catastrophic ammo cook-offs but even the Abrams has a problem with the ammo burning through the bottom of the bustle rack and ruining the engine deck.
Also I shouldn't have clicked on the video. I already knew what was coming when I saw the T80 on the thumbnail (because of the rear exhaust) and saw it being labeled as a T90. I am just disappointed that I was right...
Also we've seen Leopard 2 and Challenger 2 with popped turrets in ukraine. But MSM will never talk about this
reliable autoloader? Where did you gain that insight?
This guy is quite intelligent for an American!
And here I was thinking drones are the apex predator, so many tanks of all kinds have been destroyed or disabled by drones.
Ground warfare. Drones are classed as airborne
@@ArcticVXR1 there are underwater, water surface drones, ground drones, air drones, and even air drones fly very low, most fighter jets rarely get so low in combat as highest altitude for drones.
Why bother building Hypersonic Missiles when you can use CHEAP Drones ❓
@@KamBar2020 because they are cheap, USA even with printing trillions of dollars have not built a working hypersonic missile.
Better spend these trillions on magic stealth F-35, and pocket the money and buy all kinds of stocks, like Tesla, SpaceX, Amazon, Google, Apple, Facebook, etc.
and people
What Russian human wave attacks? The Ukrainian offensive into robotyne, was that a human wave attack?
No. The ukrainians attacked in 5 man groups. It was squirts, not waves.
@@genuz The Ukrainians used armoured columns and infantry, just as the Russians. Either they are both using this so called "human wave" tactic or nobody is, since they are using almost exactly the same tactics, which is artillery, armoured vehicles and infantry.
@@carta8399 they used armored columns for the first 5 days, then they switched to 5 man squads of soldiers when the armored columns couldn't get past the minefields. They never had much artillery during those pushes which is why they failed so horribly.
Oh wait, you thought they reached Crimea?
@@genuz No, of course not, I am saying that both sides are using the same tactics, the Ukrainians whenever they can, and that no one is using human waves.
@@carta8399 I don't know, I think Ukraine and Russia fight very differently. Russia have had the best luck with combined warfare and small unit tactics, Ukraine have had the best luck with manuevre warfare and their worst with small unit tactics. I don't remember seing them do the same exact thing at any point in time.
I did not know Navy veteran is an expert in tank warfare.
I checked out the moment he mentioned "human wave" attacks.
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same here, he is an absolute idiot
They dont?
That's literally what russia did. Their losses are staggering in comparison.
@@reviewchan9806 Estimates of Ukrainian battlefield deaths range from 500,000 to as many a one million. 600,000 is a commonly cited number.
Just a few questions. 1) How many tank to tank duels a registered during this war? 2) How many Russian tanks did Abrams tanks destroyed there?
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Я видел видео, где Т-90 России прямой наводкой уничтожил в Т-80 Украины. 😢
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i love how 95% of people in the comment talk about "that tank is more modern so it will beat this old one" have absolutely, no goddamn idea of the technical specifications of those vehicles not even those publically available a T72A the very first model in the 70 that flanck an M1A2 sepV3 and shoot it on the side will DESTROY IT it can even go through the front it is where you shot that matters not the hardware installed which only slightly increase the vehicle efficiency each upgrades, tank modernity matter very little on a tank vs tank battle, which does not happen in a war like ukraine, cause there is no big tanks division deployements
Good lord, y'all want to know how bias this video is? Just wrong, he never mentioned anything about all NATO vehicles destroyed and taken from Ukrainian forces, which Russia was showing off about two weeks ago, like an Abrams tanks. Also, all the equipment destroyed and captured? Why is he only saying that only Russia have lost so many tanks, when in fact they both have lost many tanks and military equipment? by the way, I thought he was an experts on aircraft carrier and marine tactics? C'mon stop this narrative or y'all won't be considered a trusted source anymore
Expert = paid influencer.
Because russia lost 3 times as many tans As ukraine does. Actually most tanks lost by ukraine are from russia.
@@jaegar2004 Only if you believe Oryx lies.
of course Ukraine is losing tanks because it is a war. but Ukraine was given 30 Abrams, about 100 Leopards and 30 Challengers. Russia had 3,300 tanks by 2022. just think about that difference. if Russia had not had catastrophic losses, it would have already won the war. it is enough to simply see the broken columns of the Russians in February - March 2022 to understand how heavy losses Russia is bearing
@@comedyguy911 The Oryx numbers were audited and proven false. Russia never tried to capture Kiev. Your sources are propaganda.
T-54/55 and T-62 are used for indirect fire. They have indirect fire sight. Those sights weren't great even back in the day those tanks were new, but they have them. And Russians have massive amount of shells for them, so why not use them? Lack of accuracy is complemented by drones that are used for fire correction. That still makes them useful. Besides, any tank if hit by modern ATGMs or drones will go down, regardless how modern or not the tank is.
As for famous carousel and "jack in the box" where turrets pop up, it turned out that almost never are those caused by the ammo in the carousel being directly hit. Usually it is the additional ammo being stored all over the tank being hit that ignites, cooks off (at which point it makes no difference to the crew whether the carousel ammo will also get cooked off; they're done for any way) and then it reaches the carousel and you have those explosion. Both Russian and Ukrainian tank crews started going into battle with ammo in the carousel only (22 rounds) and with 0 additional ammo in tank hull and turret. And what do you know... The images of popped up turrets are now pretty rare, as opposed to the start of the confrontation...
T-62 uses modern ammo. Smooth bore...
When a Western specialist speaks about "The Soviet Doctrine of human wave mongolian horse archers horde tactics", I feel safe for Russia, as long as NATO has this level of competence.
Tanks were the apex predator until the drone entered the battle space. A $200 drone can destroy a 10 million dollar tank. Who’s the real apex predator?
Drones are nothing new to battlefield. It's like. Saying Airforce is useless because enemy have anti-aircraft missiles. Drones you reffering to are commercial and can be easily jamed. If you have C4 you can destroy tank, but first get up close to it. While moving in formation with support and jamming and anti air support.
russian lancet drones are 30-35k cost.still nothing compared to few millions worth heavy armor
A mosquito can kill a human but it's isn't exactly and apex predator is it?
'Apex' is not about value, it's purely about strength.
The problem with drones is that Ukraine and Russia lack effective counter UAS weapons to negate drones effectiveness
Russia doe the disabling job of drones with EW means that no other country in the world has. However, when Russia turns off their Ew tech in order to pave way for their own drone to work effectively, Ukraine exploits the same window to make brake throughs with their drones too.@@verdebusterAP
Hundreds?????
15.05.2024
Tanks - 7510 (+14)
Armored fighting vehicle - 14508 (+48)
Artillery systems - 12538 (+23)
I see!
There is no reason to trust either sides reports of losses. All you can do us look at what they keep fielding day after day.
Dude, what are you smoking? I want some.
Schizophrenic news online
Damn i wonder how much they got left the factory still producing like a god damn copy machine
Well, according to Russia, Ukraine has lost over 600 planes. Despite having at best 100.
If Shermans were "Tommy Cookers" in 1944, T-90s are "Boris Burners" in 2024
Guys Modern Battle Tanks were like Battleship during WW2 where it become obsolete when Carrier with planes (Drones today) destroy battleship much easier than battleship vs battleship.
😂😂😂😂 Are you serious????? 😂😂😂😂😂
Lots of Russian bots here.
Seems like Russia is winning 4 me.
Wow are you sure because the country without a navy to demolish another countries Black sea fleet is very impressive. Pushing back the enemy and taking back great amounts of land from Kiev, Kharkiv offensives and Kherson was done. With attacks within Russia attacking oil and other key facilities instead of hitting civilian targets like Russia has done is taking its toll. Yes to a degree they failed last year in the counteroffensive but the war isn't over yet. Three days lol.
But it's not over
Ukraine has lost over 600KM (654 I think) of land over the past year of 2024, and this guy is talking about them "Not willing to give up territory, but take it back"? What war is he watching?!
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@@Алексей-ь2т8ы Thaha. Mainstream-media war hahaha
Excellent report.
Hahaha not surprised by the content already knew the answer before I had seen the video, wasted my time, with the "military expert" or rather the "west expert" 😅🤦
no he's CNN's expert.
No worries about wasting your time. It's cheap.
@@captainchaoscow yes so cheap such that an entire media house made an entire studio production intended for my consumption🥱
he's got points though.
M1-A1. NOT M1. The M1A1 (and all its variants up to the M1A2 through to the proposed SEP 4 version) has a 120mm main gun. The M1 Is the first generation of the, Abrams which sported a 105mm gun. I know you were trying to shorten the name for brevity, but in doing so, you were saying the wrong piece of equipment. Ukraine received ALL M1A1 (sub variants) tanks. If you are going to make a video about tanks, then one of two things needs to happen. Be more specific or put a pinned post or say it in the video that all variants of the, Abrams will be called the M1 for the purpose of this video. Same thing can be said about the Leopards. Also, why is a squid making a video about tanks? No offence but for you it was and always will be a hobby. This was never your career or life in these pieces of equipment.
Meh. Even when you have expertise in this exact sort of comparison, no one listens. Its frustrating. All experts are impeachable now or easily disbelieved if it doesnt fit your own conclusion.
No European tanks can stand against the mighty Abrams.
It's had to believe that the Russians have destroyed some abraham tanks,i remember US army personnel say this will be a game changer for the war and defeat russia in Ukraine. It is really crazy of russia to parade these tanks in Moscow.
Russia just swarms them with its much more numerous weapon systems. In terms of quality, the west wins, but this is not quantitatively a fair fight.
Id be surprised if they actually believed that. Even though Western tanks are better, ~30 Abrams and ~80 Leopards 2s are very small numbers in a war as large as this one
they say the same now for the f-16, it will end the same way for them too.
Putin had his 500₽ alibaba drones 😂
Who said "game changer" about 30 tanks? What are you smoking? Long-range ATACMs and F-16's *WIDE RANGE OF MISSILES AND BOMBS* can change something. Not some two companies of tanks.
The F-16s as a fighter jet do not matter. It's a platform which takes ALL types of air "assets".
the amount of propaganda these guys do ridiculous . pentagon must have spent on about 100 billions for propaganda in last 3 years
And Russia is just full of properganda naratives. Example Nazis in Ukraine the president is Jewish and out of the 400 or more seats in thier parliment one is Asov. And the list of BS goes on.
So, a Navy guy lecturing us on armoured projection on the battlefield? Sheeeeeeet!
bro proceeds to show t90, while the T90M is not shown in a single footage, T90-M is the better competititor to m1a2 !! bro doesnt know !!
Also: Yes. T90M is in service in ukraine ~150
My guy really said "human wave attacks", LMAO. Hope you got paid well bro.
Where is Armata?
@@captainchaoscow How's Kharkiv holding? How are your Abrams doing, surely none are destroyed right?
@@oogie493 Still Ukrainian - feel free to ask me in 6 months.
How come Americans gave ukranians everything but tanks? Only about 30 were given, all of them are destroyed… Seems like somebody doesn’t want to lose fACE, but some navy weirdo is here to tell us all about the tanks. How ukranians have no soldiers any more to mobilize by the way?
Why it look more like a marketing video than indside talk
finally people wake up from the mainstream american cheap propaganda. its always important to teach the new generations of the wisdom and the ability to see far, else the history is likely to be repeated
It has a jet engine so it’s a gas guzzler and that’s why the got 31 of the 1st gen abrams.
Jet engine? What are you, 5? It's a gas turbine. What you call a "jet engine" is a gas turbine with open flow. Currently used jet engines are just rocket engines. Fighter jets use engines commonly known as turbo-jets (gas turbines with open flame exhaust - open flow). The M1 uses a gas turbine with a shaft. It is closer to the internal combustion engine than to the jet.
This dude is a navy expert, makes sense
Tanks will disappear at the hands of drones. And when artificial intelligence comes to drones, traditional rear artillery will also disappear.
Traditional rear artillery never disappear, its really cheap, cost-effective and very synergetic with drones. Its just human crew will be cut out of equation, same AI will control swarm of observer drones that spot enemies for swarm of bomb drones and automated artillery pieces.
Russia now test ground drones, small light tanks without crew that use machinegun, mine-sweeping equipment and can deliver supply for frontline squads. This is what will replace ordinary tanks eventually,
You would guess that the same AI will be controling anti drone measures/defenses on future tanks.... tanks are not going away, will just be reworked.
@@NruBseyE What you say will happen at first, manufacturers will resist to stop producing these expensive dinosaurs. But facts will prove that a large, expensive, heavy, slow, complex and for the worse, manned device cannot compete against small, two or three orders of magnitude cheaper, faster, relatively simpler and disposable weapons. A tank on the battlefield is something like a full wallet lying on the street, something that invites to be stolen. And what the enemy steals from the tank is all the money it cost... in exchange for a small sum.
Do not confuse lethality with invulnerability.
There is nothing else that can do what a tank can do. They won't disappear.
@@RampageG4mer What can a tank do that drones and missiles can't do?
This guy isn't an expert.They paid him to advertise
Ukraine was the heart of Soviet forces.
Soviet military production was also in Ukraine.
Tanks, trucks, all made in Ukraine.
Blatant nonsense.
They’re made in Nizhny Tagil.
The propaganda is so high that i smelled it through the screen.
The first tank dual for the Abrams in Ukraine was against a T-90. The Abrams is now on display in Moscow
Apex predator? No, drones are now the apex predator
Humans are the deadliest animals on earth and small mosquitos can still get us killed 🤔
It is and always has been artillery. It can kill you and you'll never see it, hear it, or even know what's coming until it's too late. At least with drones you have a chance to run.
Russia doesnt have "one of the largets tank forces". It has THE largets tank forces. By quite a way.
Except 30% are caninbalised scrap and 30% are out-dated shite.
If they aren't - why aren't Ruzzia on the Polish border?
I wouldn't trust this guy to tell the truth. His rhetoric shows me that he doesn't have a clue on the present turn of events.
A buddy of mine was a M1A1 tanker. He called them coffins.
Called them coffins while killing camel riders. Must have been scary down there.
@@kaspervestergaard2383 so little you know. The PG-7VL and PG-7VR fired from a camel rider can and has taken out the Abrams. I'll trust what the actual tankers have to say over your BS anyday.
How many Abrams tank crews were kia before the war in Ukraine?
@@MenacingWithVideos i have no idea but i do know that any conflict the US has been involved in prior to Ukraine had total air and artillery superiority. I just ran across a vidoe with the Ukrainians talking about the Abrams with its problems in the conflict. They spoke of lack of armor, humidity knocking out electronics, the weight and how prone they are to drones being huge downfalls along with not having the correct ammunition when needed. To many AP rnds and not enough HE. He said they've fired 20 rnds into a building trying to knock it down. He also said that in this conflict the abrams primary use is as artillery not tank to tank. If i can find the video I'll share it. Any time an Abrams shows up thry are tracked down and eliminated or disabled. Then there's the huge amount of fuel to operate and the maintenance issues. As fsr as i know they pulled the Leopards off the front also for the most part. He said the Abrams and Leopards are hunted like trophy animals.
@@mikemckinnis3877 yeah but for Russians it's even worse
An Abrams being destroyed is a rarer event than a t-90 being destroyed
Do you have a footage of "human wave attack"?
Yeah he have, from Call of Duty and Company of Heroes 2
Yes, you could find it in 10 seconds if you wanted
@@YevhenSavchuk nobody ever found one. please enlighten me with a RUclips prompt to search for