How The US Military Spends $800B Per Year On War Machines | True Cost | Business Insider
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- The US spends more on its military that the next nine nations combined. Both its aircraft carrier and F-35 programs have gone way over budget - while America continues to innovate its next-generation weapons for the battlefields of Ukraine.
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How The US Military Spends $800B Per Year On War Machines | True Cost | Business Insider
Imagine paying taxes your entire life and it's all used up because some dude took a massive dump on an aircraft carrier.
yeah luckily that's not what all of it pays for.
Taxes haven’t paid for anything in a long time
Yeap the money flowing to those weapons makers companies. 👌
@@olearysbf6580They outsource to tons of smaller civilian metal shops. I had a job as a cnc operator and we would get orders for f35 parts. I never got to make any but I got to package them 💀
All the more likely when they are shit scared fighting the Russians.
400,000 to unclog a toilet? This makes so much sense now why the pentagon can’t even complete there audit
Partially that. But a lot of the missing money is given to “Allies” under the table to secure “democracy”. And also routed to politicians campaigns.
$400,000 plunger cost?!?! Dropping a big fat deuce on this ship is outside of your pay grade seaman... Lol
I wonder how many American millionaires the military has created, and billionaires. No bid contracts for fault product?! CLEAN HOUSE
Lies again? Beautiful Women
And as soon someone mention is a miss.. I mean an aircraft hits exatly that sexction of pentagon, where audit docs are stored and another building free falls for now reason in New York, which supposedly housed the docs for 7 trillion spent on black budget ?!
Solider: *takes dump*
Plumber: that will be $400,000 please and thank you
A trash can is $6000 in Us army. Being a contractor of national defence is like winning a jackpot. Jus don’t forget to tip the generals after they retire.
I thought this kind of thing only happen in developing countries🤣🤣🤣
@@gugisagara4489The U.S. is full of corruption, both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. It is quite ridiculous for the USA to talk about democracy
I am sure a tactical trash can could be sold for more than that. Also don't forget that world domination is at stake here. You could have free college for everybody and health care on par with truly developed countries but weapons manufacturers would not be able to feed their children.
@@gugisagara4489 No, this kind thing happens all around world. There is no exception.
The generals get Board seats once they retire.
"What features do you want in this F35?"
"Yes"
Its funny because its accurate 😂😂😂
How about it works as advertised!!!!!!!!!!!
@@GregWampler-xm8hv they’re working on it
the most expensive one
If NASA received the same amount of funding that the military industrial complex receives, we'd have a colony on mars within a couple years.
Which would benefit who?
@@kid_missive Humankind. Instead of a few old defense contractors and generals.
@@kid_missive Humanity. Whether it's a super volcano under Yellowstone, a massive solar flare, nuclear annihilation, an extinction level meteor, or something else, sooner or later, something's gonna happen that's gonna wipe us off the map. We owe it to ourselves to survive. For the human species to keep on going. The fact remains, is that our sun will eventually run out of fuel, at which point it will become either a white dwarf, or explode into a giant supernova. Both scenarios mean the end for our solar system.
too far away for us to make it live.
They can't even get to the moon lol. To bat they lost all that tech from the 60s...
As Scott Montgomery said on Star Trek. The fancier you make the plumbing the easier it is to stop it up.
$400,000 to fix a toilet? And to think I was upset to pay my plumber $150 to unclog my toilet. Damn, it was actually a steal!
What seems to be a large problem for the US’ military hegemony might be partly due to the lack of competitiveness of the arms industry. Just a few different companies seem to control the entire industry and get government contracts. Lowering innovativeness and driving costs up.
This comment sums it up.
I dont think the problem is lack of innovation in killing machines...
Edit: seems people misunderstand my comment and unquestioningly agree that war should be a business in the first place. We LOVE how much we invest into the military! MORE FOREVER WARS! MORE INDUSTRY! CONSTANT INNOVATION IN DEATH! MAKE OUR DEMISE EASIER AND INSTANT!
The west is a sick, violent, barbarian culture. 🤮
@@oiaeyu The US still produce some of the greatest weapons systems, can’t be argued. But they would probably get more bang for their buck if they had more companies competing for contracts instead of only relying on Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon competing for them. Lets them drive up costs and hold a soft monopoly over the market.
@@Sniff420
The issue is only a few companies are willing to sell to the US,
Boeing bought all of its competition so its really just 2 companies now, and both do completely different things for the US.
It simply brutal, abyssmal, endless corruption.
f35 program is 1.7 trillion from 2013 to 2055. Is not a bad program, If you adjust for inflation the f-15 was way more expensive.
$1.7 trillion is misleading af, because it won't be spent until 2070. Price per F-35 ranges between $80-100 million
@@hamzamahmood9565 exactly... they said it themselves too. it is just an estimate
Also, the F35 is safer than the F16 too, the F16 has more deaths and crashes in the same timeframe as the F35
People will always hate it for no reason. even tho its a damn power house that will reck any nation the next 10-20 years
yup glad we have those programs.
Either way, I enjoyed landing my AH-64E v6 on it a few months ago. Apart from the lift getting stuck when I was to fly off a day later
Its actually crazy how many things they have talked about in this video just 6:14 in. I've personally welded 4 individual pieces of those elevators, same along with the steam pipes !
Awesome you must be a millionaire.
The F-35 did NOT cost $1.7 Trillion, that number was an estimate by the Pentagon on what the F-35 program WILL cost over the 60 year span it will operate, that includes weapons, fuel, maintenance EVERYTHING.
he said 1.7 trillion f-35 program
It's already cost that. That includes the fuel and maintenance costs. Not to mention yet another $1,000,000,000,000.00 over ten (10) years. Not sixty (60).
that jet will be out dated in 10 years, at best.
@@williamyoung9401 Bullshit, find a credible source, not some bullshit headline
@@awhs5435 Uh huh, its got the most state of the art systems that will make it last 80 years
Honestly, all the improvements make so much sense by themselves, but I can see how combining a dozen new technologies into a single object and durability testing them for 50+ years might have caused more delays and headaches than desired. Thanks for the investigative journalism!
what they should do is having one as "evolving ship" to introduce/ try new tech and create improved old version with one best improvement tech that works from the evolving ship
Uhh who cares that’s wayyyy too much money
@@thetruthteller4385 who cares. that's how you guys get the money from the entire world in deals anyways
operated junk
United States military industrial complex is immensely inefficient. Private companies gouge the US govt. The industry also don't even follow quality controls like other industries. There are claims that until at the end of manufacturing process are products inspected for issues. Resulting in a lot of waste and scraping of finished products that don't meet standards of variation all to maximize job creation across every state so no project can easily be cancelled. So even with their huge budget all other rival countries do a better job through state owned corporations to build their own arms to counter everything the United States has. They even out classing in certain types arms.
very good docu. It shows how some people in charge completely fcked up in decision making, program management, basic engineering and procurement.
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The problem associated with the cost of everything is the profiteering by defense contractors. This is what needs to be addressed, not the acquisition of the weaponry.
@CtrlALlTerrorS nationalising kills competition and you get less quality
The acquisition process is horrifying. Accountability is not apparent at all.
Agree with you 100%
That's the American way.
pay up or see tank in front of white house. You pick.
A proof that War is a Business
everything is a business
Hell is the destination
@@vitsadelhole Yep ur correct everything is a business and war is very profitable business
General Smedley wrote a small book in the 1920s stating this
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Y’all gonna want to get that ship operational ASAP! We’re getting ready to need it!
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"Nice plane you go there. How much does it cost?"
"A billion gazillion"
"Thats not even a real number"
"It will be 80 years later when its finally completed"
@@defcreator187 You see no problem with this insanity?
Quin-trillion dollars :)
I’m sure that USA military power is #1 but I think maybe comparison costs should be based on PPP (Purchasing power parity) since most costs are spent on human costs (including building of weapons) and relatively little on raw material costs.
Yea so i doubt its number 1
@@Gords38897 The supposedly #3 military power is currently getting it's butt beat with our leftovers.
@@Gords38897 I wouldn't say that. They may spend an obscene amount of money on equipment and materials, but they spend an equally obscene amount of money on planning, logistics, and their people. There are many reasons to criticise the US Military, but it would be inaccurate to say they are not the largest and most powerful fighting force that exists as of now. The US Military wastes a lot of money, but because they have basically infinite money (for all practical purposes), it doesn't really matter for them how much goes to waste.
Amen.
@XMeK really i just heard america is sending patriot missiles which means someone is nervous i been hearing russia is losing since the start of the war remember? And it appears like they are sending poor Ukraine back to the stone age im surpriced all of nato hasnt been able to stop russia yet
No one can deny that America knows how to make an aircraft carrier. Im sure even ones much more basic are still a monumental task to build let alone run. I would not want to be on the receiving end of an attack launched by their carrier groups
Seems like those dA could have done at least 3 different systems for plumbing ( front, middle, back..etc. To prevent 400k bill.
Trust me, there is no way it costs anywhere even near to 400,000 dollars to produce that helmet. The markup must be insane.
That amount includes the years of development, and maintaining it throughout its lifetime. They’re not paying $400,000 per helmet. For instance… let’s say 1 f35 cost 50 billion. That number includes all the maintenance, fuel, parts, etc… for the life of the aircraft.
And it doesn't work right, pilots turn off features because they interfere with other features. Also it has to be re-calibrated on the pilots head regularly and it's as expensive as *&%&*(^$#$&% as we engineers say. 😎
FYI as an engineer if you can't get your designed squared away in, now, 18 F'n years ya got a dog and ya gotta drop the whole program.
As someone said above the lack of competition has a lot to do with it.
@@GregWampler-xm8hv That's not true. The night vision doesnt work if there isn't a star in the sky (cloud cover). They fixed all the issues, you're going off an article written in 2017. Also, No NVs work in that scenario. You're talking out of your ass.
Yet they haven't raised the personnel pay raise. They'll open their eyes when recruiting keeps dropping.
As an E1 sailor that handles millions of $ per day of equipment , I get paid $1,300 every month which makes $650 every 2 weeks. It’s horrible.
@@anissah389 That pisses me off and thank you for your service. I love the U.S. military and I hope they open their eyes and value their most important asset, the people...
@@anissah389 wow that’s insane!! Thanks for the transparency! Stay safe
E-3 quartermaster here and there's a couple extra add-ons to the base pay that@@anissah389fails to mention though. With combat hazard pay, BAH, travel vouchers, and/or other expense allowances most service members usually make about 25-40% more than that. Still a laughable amount and a slap in the face to the young men and women who chose to serve our country. It's insulting and frustrating to know that the civilian contractors that you work with make 2 to 3 times what you do.
@@anissah389 In Scandinavia, you get given more money on unemployment benefit while sitting at home watching Netflix. You need a different job.
live movie particiations to turn this to profit centers rather than cost center except those highly confidential weapon
The General Ford is already deploy and is fully operational it just did its European tour. The John F Kennedy carrier is doing test trails already. The F35 ejection seat problem was in Augest. All these problems have been fixed . This video was produced months ago and just came out in December.
Really americas needs to stop war escalations when americas tax payers pays the bills world wide. How much will ukraine cost america. Taxes.?
@@penidulm 40 billion plus enough to help homeless in America.
@@dhan219 lol sadly no. Everything we've sent to Ukraine over the last year isn't even as much as two states spend on homelessness annually (and certainly haven't solved it). A silly Russian troll disinformation talking point. Plus, last I checked, air defense and rocket launched missiles aren't particularly useful to helping the homeless lol.
@@Cyrribrae yh man america isn't perfect but it's way better than the alternatives
@@penidulm - What is the value of crushing the military and economy of one of the greatest geopolitical threats to the USA/NATO/West/Democracy? The Ukrainians are paying in blood and the destruction of their country - the cost to the US/NATO/West is a few % of our regular military budget and we get fantastic results without shedding our own blood. The war in Ukraine, as heartbreaking as it is, is an incredibly good deal for the USA. A year ago, Russia was one of America's biggest geopolitical threats and the idea of Russia and China joining forces or coordinating invasions was a nightmare. The Russia threat is basically removed, and China will have second thoughts about independent aggressions and will see no value/have no interest in a military alliance with Russia. I know you are looking at your taxes, but can you understand the great value in US/International support to Ukraine? And if Ukraine had fallen as easily as Russia had planned - can you imagine the balls Putin would have now - and the increased threat they would be to the world?
I’m a little stunned that we are calling an elevator “new technology.” Elevators are older than aircraft carriers, by a lot
Exactly what I was thinking...and they paid 600 million dollars to install a technology they literally said is the same technology rollercoasters use....in that case this is also not new technology... corruption at it's finest.
when they make changes to the infrastructure in a ship they need to counter the weight and balance changes, so they will have to modify other parts for this balance.
Aircraft are also an old technology.
So any new aircraft is old tech because the first one was released over 100 years ago. You can not default to the dumbest conclusion ever, come one.
@themonkeyman2547 way to miss the point, but thanks for adding a comment to boost engagement for the video
16:40 - so, basically it is just like mine vw passat.
It also tells you exactly what is wrong and where...
when people says "why don't use that money on USA instead of foreign aid" They need to reduce military spending all together
This is EXACTLY what Eisenhower warned us about, either no one listened or it was simply ignored.
Eisenhower had the luxury of having private industry step up to commit to his war needs and then retool back to their original purposes when the war ended. That mentality worked for the time, but fails miserable today because the sheer expenses of developing these systems meant no private industry would take on the challenge.
@@nobodyspecial4702 Yeah, Ford isn't much good at building an aircraft capable of taking on a Su-57, there would have to be a no standing army declaration from all countries after WW2 when humanity finally grew up and started using rationality but, climate change happened and the department of defense says that's our number one threat to national security and we need to deliver some freedom to it in the form of drone strikes. Get me off the world of insane monkeys.
@nobody special You make it seem like the military contractors of WW2 were victimized. They all made billions, if not trillions in today's dollars. Conservatism has made poor people cry out for the plight of war profiteers. Amazing.
@nobody special The private industry never "retooled" themselves back to peace time manufacturing, that is the entire issue that Eisenhower was warning us about. The military industrial complex exploded after WW2.
@@matthew92604 Really? Ford still makes bombers instead of cars? I must have missed seeing those last time I was at a dealership.
More than the next 9 militaries combined. True. But there is an incredible level of corruption going on which we have seen in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars where some companies would sell even simple things at incredibly high prices. Not to mention the waste that happened in these wars for no gain ... and all the equipment that was left behind. With such great inefficiency, the numbers are not directly correlated to actual capabilities.
Actually more than the entire world. And who keeps using technology to make even more death and destruction? Amerika. Laser weapons, moving war into space.
We have 850+ UNsinkable foreign military land bases surrounding the entire eurasian landmass many times over. Anyone want to try and explain the need to spend UNTOLD TRILLIONS on 12 carrier groups/missile magnets (carriers) plus 8-10 support ships per carrier?
FYI all this scrap metal yachting around have a total offensive punch of 30 little gnat shit fart-18's. No shit 18 little f-18's.
I say if more company get military contract to build this stuff it probably be cheaper
We Spend that ( just on the interest) on the National Debt- every year- and it keeps growing 😮😮
I bet the contractor that over engineered the toilet system is laughing all the way to the bank.
No he is laughing all the way to the toilet 😢😢😢
@@maxsweetman6341to the septic tank, cesspool.
"The carrier comes at COOL 100 000 000 000$" Yeah, that is so cool.
my drone design piggybacks two 40mm launching tubes, meaning it can long range out to the vicinity of the target, from a safe altitude, and launch 40mm ordinance like two raytheon pikes. on the bottom is a ptz laser guidance system. Real simple design.
What about the 750-800 military bars and installations the US has abroad? I’m sure that takes up a large chunk of the budget.
This is an incredibly informative video that provides a comprehensive look at how the US military spends its budget. It's eye-opening to see the sheer amount of money invested in war machines and the potential implications of this spending. Great work!
Some useful information, but nowhere near explaining the whole US annual military budget.
@@coreyham3753 Agreed this is a very deceptive POV of how the money is spent. Most everyone can look up a very detailed breakdown of what money is spent and where, a huge portion is maintenance on buildings, ships, equipment, etc. A big lot to payroll and another big lot to R&D. Only then is the money spent actually acquiring all of the "war machines".
@@paulcrawford7594 Agree .... you are spot on.
@@paulcrawford7594 30 billion per aircraft carrier 2 billion per sub it adds up fast.
@@scotttild where did you get 30 billion from? Its 13.3 billion and going down on the next ones...
Imagine what people would think if they knew what most of that money was actually used for
Connex boxes full of equipment we order that will be thrown away in a couple of years. I remember destroying fully operational AC units to send to scrap yard for some reason above my pay grade.
They have black ops not even people in positions to over see know about.
and this video only shows you part of the money spent to kill our neighbors their children their dogs. Obliterate them. And as we know technology is the most fleeting of all. Can you imagine what good you could do for people if you weren't using that money to kill them all
american money is free, just some print some more when you run out...
Most don’t that’s the problem
*Its still not enough BUT we need TRUE COMPETITION among military contractors. Too many expensive inside deals in this corrupt bidding system!*
actually, it doesn't cost that much (i'm not talking about only the production costs). the arms industry charge for enormous prices just to increase the profit margin. and since those companies have tighter ties with the government & military, they get what they can. pay your taxes, fellas
I've seen hugely different opinions in the higher up american naval staff about putting all new technologies in the first of the class immediately or spreading it out over multiple carriers
i think they did the right thing
Me too. Stack all costs up front in a short timeframe, sort the hassles out and build many thereafter.
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My mind can’t wrap around “…building 11 or 12…can go easily into the 22 nd century…”- I think this is the first time my mind can’t wrap around anything or any idea. Thx, now I know.
empire-By creating new conflicts followed by wars and keeping the industry -and the Empire- up and running.
Long story: Maxx force shown at 6:14 is one of two coasters out of 2,400 coasters in the world to be propelled by a compressed air launch coaster and not an lsm system
Short story: You had one job
Delays in building ships cost millions, sometimes billions. During a delay, the ship is taking up space in the yard, requires anti-corrosion maintenance, security, shore power - all while nothing is being assembled. Once the funding is committed, it should not be held up for review, or else billions could be lost.
"anti-corrosion maintenance" - good point Mr. Nutz.
And that 800 billion is less than 20% of what we spend on healthcare every year...
2:55 Elevators are just one example of two dozen major new technologies
Over spending on defense doesn't make a country stronger, especially considering the state of our education system.
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Okay here we go again Every US department (First Healthcare now Education) needs to be better funded than the military? 😂 Tell that to whomever takes over if we lose to them in war.
We overspend on the military and healthcare and underspend on education. The US and it's allies outspend Russia, China, N Korea and Iran nearly 4 to 1. @@lilithd5220
The unfortunate reality of weapons and tools of war is the best way to test them is by putting them into combat. Thats how you know where your real problems are and adjustments in design can accomodate those problems but you can't know that without fighting.
That's True!!!
nah, now there are very simulations that mimic very well real combat scenarios
@@ebhole no simulation to date can replicate the full effects of physics and chemistry in a hotzone. Psychology also can't be simulated and that plays a role in ware and tear.
What a great documentary thank you.
The DoD decides what it wants, and contractors have to build it to that spec. Imagine going to Chevy and without looking at what they are building, you give them a spec for your car. How much would it cost to build it exactly to your spec? and how much would it cost to keep it running?
It is comforting to know: No country was ever bankrupted by military spending
Lmao, the roman empire, the ottomans, the british, china multiple times, japan multiple times, USSR
i could go on but i think you get the point
@@awhs5435 yet again like all Americans always deflect and point the finger the other way because it makes you look bad
Just keep printing $$Trillions out of thin air!
USSR never existed
Soviet Union
They had that debate about incremental improvements vs all at once. They went all at once. Yes it meant a lot of growing pains for the first in class, however the rest of the Ford class carriers will benefit from the lessons learned.
Can you imagine driving a car with 600 recall issues? I wouldn't want to drive it and would be amazed that the company hasn't done more to fix the problems considering how much money they have made.
Could you amagine if everyone respected their neighbors and no one hurt each other and then we could spend all this money on improving every ones lives
That would be considered civilized behavior. Unfortunately we have a bunch of educated uncivilized individuals as leaders
Si todos se respetaran, no se odiaran, no hubiera competencia, todo fuese paz y amor etc. el dinero no tendría ningún sentido.
China is doing that😊😅
The admiral is absolutely right about adding too much new technology at once
Not necessarily. I can imagine contractors using it as an excuse and the admiral not knowing any better goes along with it.
And here is me thinking the cost of war is supposed be measured in lives lost, not the amount of effort put in, and the amount of dollars spent, towards being the better murderer
And these people tout religion.
@@mahlina1220 i don't know what "tout" means, and I can't be bothered looking it up right now, but i think i get what you're tryna say anyway; and yes, exactly!
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All of those things should be measured and repeated. The economic costs of war has caused widespread human suffering and devastation throughout history, its very important that we understand all of the costs and consequences of war, not just the casualties.
@@mahlina1220 All religion is evil for exactly the same reason, for it seeks to divide rather than unite. This is our god, for our people, and it's all founded on lies by schizophrenic bronze age peasants hearing voices. The world will never have peace until religion is simply a thing of the past, a thing of myth and legend.
One nit I have to pick is at the 13:00 min mark It describes which F-35 model are built for which service. Every thing mentioned is accurate, but when talking about the USMC, is mentioned the Marines wanted to replace the AV-8B Harrier with the F-35B. Which is true, but they fail to mention the Marines also fly F/A-18's that also need to be replaced by the F-35C's, just like the Navy. So the USMC will operate both the F-35B & F-35C. Also I think it would have been helpful to add that nations that operate the Harrier or operate helicopter carriers would also be purchasing the F-35B(I'm talking about British Navy & Japanese Navy as an example). Also, saying the US Air Force will replace the A-10 Thunderbolt with the F-35A has proven somewhat controversial. It's more of a replacement for the F-16 & F-15C. The F-35A can't loiter over the battlefield like the A-10, and it doesn't have the same kind of anti-armor cannon that the A-10 has, and it doesn't offer the same protection to the pilot that the A-10 offers. The only reason the USAF hasn't retired the A-10 already is because Congress has forced the USAF to keep it in service.
I wonder if it would’ve been more cost effective to have 3 different planes from the start. Have contractors fight it out to drive cost down.
Thanks for spending the time to create and share this content awareness
An indian major once said, battles, war is won in superior logistics... (ofcourse weapons is a given), but its the logistics that win the war...
So i guess thats why the budget is what it is... maintenance of what is built all along
Hi Guilliman
Case in point, Russia’s recent failures in Ukraine. Their logistics and maintenance was not up to scratch to the point that tyres were failing even on modern equipment
It takes a great deal of resources to maintain world dominance militarily. I was aircrew in the US Navy, and served on 5 US aircraft carriers. As mentioned in this video, our nuclear weapons and strategic strategies have been in place since the early 1950's. It's not likely to change in our lifetimes.
And what do we get from it? I mean even if you want to look at it from a military view. In our last two big wars, Afghanistan and Vietnam, patriots wearing sheets and sandals sent us running with our tails between our legs. Not after we killed 2.2 million people, of course. And in the last 20 years we also created 50 million refugees, the mothers of which often resort to prostitution because we killed their menfolk. The USA has turned into the world's Evil Empire, taking the title from the UK.
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We may not understand how many they spent but we know that the moment US show a weakness and opening the enemy will not missed the chance.
Why can't the USS Ford handle the F-35??
I know that the VSTOL F-35B could be an issue if it used its vectored thrust on launch or landing because its hot exhaust requires a special deck surface to handle it.
But the Navy's F-35C does not use vectored thrust, so that's not an issue. So, why can't the USS Ford accommodate the F-35 ?
The thing that attaches to the plane launcher isn’t on the f35 i think
@@williamknows3908 The Navy's variant of the F-35 (the F-35C), was designed from the outset for both carrier launch and arrest. It has stronger landing gear for both launch and arrest. It also has the tail-hook and a strengthened fuselage to handle the loads of a tail-hook arrest. Another unique, carrier specific feature of the F-35C is larger wings than either the Air Force's F-35A or the Marine's VSTOL F-35B. Lastly, the USS Ford's EMALS launch and newer arrest system actually launch aircraft with a softer, more graduated force. So if the F-35 can handle a launch from ANY carrier, it should include the USS Ford. Adding ~$400 MILLION cost to the Ford for F-35 compatibility seems really WEIRD.
@@gregparrott okay then yes its very weird
maybe it wasnt made for the f35
@@campbellaviation7289 The F35 contract began in 1995, a DECADE before the USS Ford began construction in 2005. Considering the the F35C was specified by the navy in 1995 to replace their mainstay F-18, the Navy HAD TO anticipate the F35 as being not only present, but its primary fighter jet. Something isn't right with the claim that it would take an extra $400 million for the Ford to accommodate the F-35
It's a curiousity where the variants will end up in the course of service. Most aircraft enter service with one or 2 existing variants(X for experimental and the production version with it's corresponding name)but they made 3. As aircraft get modifications by each branch of service they could become increasingly different from each other. As of now in order to fight them you would want to know which variant your up against. That's hard to tell at a glance. That adds an element of confusion and guesswork. They could stick with that or not. Hard to know how that will go over time. I only know I wouldn't want to be up against them.
For F35, I do not understand why do you need howering capability?
For what do you use it?
The only thing I know off, that this is used for- are movies and tv shows.
why do you want to hower with your military plane?
The first one is always the hardest after that it's pretty much a cake walk
Unclogging the toilet literally cost more than buying a house. And for certain people it cost more money than they'll ever make
I wondered about this when recently I traded the quarter earnings beat by LMT Lockheed Martin. I also saw that NGRP beat earnings as well as wella s Raytheon (these are defense/aka military industries). I really wondered how this company can always beat their previous output if we are having less active troops in combat zones vs Iraq times, why would war industries sitll be so profitable? Well, obviously it is american rebranded weapons that fight on both sides of almost any war, but even then... the output is huge. This is the Military Industrial Complex the president D. Eisenhowever talked about. You couldnt think about this with any other company, like Apple iphones for example, an iphone has one user, at most, if every person on earth used an iphone, that would be 7 billion iphones, with lets say a generous 50% breaking and replacing in one quarter, and like idk some people buying more than one. Lets say a super generous 25% owns two iphones each. That still doesnt make sense, compared to LMT which is just one producer of weapons, you have multiple producers in "competition" and the US is not at war with anyone and yet we continue producing even more and more military goods. What really blows my mind is at the same time this is happening, the military has anecdotal and confirmed reports of having outdated gear and needs on certain areas or bases or departments... So, I can only conclude that much of the military spending is done in a way that has no end in sight, and requires justification like the Cold War, the threat of North Korea, the Ukraine War. Etc. Even the development of democratic nations can be argued to destabilize a region and create a need for defense, like Israel for example, if they had settled in Latin America or Africa the defense needs would not be huge. But of course lets step of a first world country in the middle of the most unstable part of the world, and then arm them to the teeth.
When the Staff Sgt Morgan said F - 35 is self diagnosing, Then in South Carolina, F - 35 should have warned about the glitch before taking off .
Self diagnosing systems are very hard to implement and complexity of diagnosis increases exponentially with each new addition. F - 35 is a disaster and we should stop spending any more money on it.
As a citizen of a country with big military manpower but has a relatively low number of advanced war machines, I really wish that our country spend more on military research and development, or on advanced war machines purchasements. We, citizens, really believe in our military personels' strength, but when we're talking about combat armanents, we'll be quite pessimistic.
As a Canadian I feel you. We're not US rich, but our arms industry is pathetic.
Sadly, most of this $800B is spent on starting fights all around the world. Budget could be cut 80% if only for "Defense" like the name says.
Lol then Russia etc would be radically more inclined to fight wars. The only reason Russia is losing is because of American surveilance and cyber warfare technology, otherwise they would have been roasted in a few days.
It’s an amazing plane.
It does cost lots of money.
And we should try and lower the cost where we can.
But
The f35 and it’s variants are most technologically advanced fighter aircraft in the world.
I think, it’s worth it.
Despite its setbacks the F-35 is winning contracts all over the world vs its competitors. This fighter jet is the real deal.
Will be shot down soon bij a 20k drone , gl
I also want the spending to get lowered but not for F-35, that thing has swept Europe very quickly, especially many orders are pending since The Russian invasion.
Russo Ukrainian war demonstrated the fact that none of the legacy planes, including F18, F16, F15 and A10, can survive when every soldier or truck can carry anti air missiles.
🤷 Yes it is. We have the plane. However, the plane was designed way way way too advanced for it’s time so it is a massively delayed project that is FAR over budget and still doesn’t have all of its features yet. It still doesn’t have the new GE engines, it doesn’t have the new RAM material so it’s incredibly expensive to maintain, currently $42,000/flight hr. The airframe is also rated for far less hours than the F15.
Let’s get this straight… this is an absolutely incredible aircraft. It is the most advanced in the world and in my opinion it will probably keep that title with updates.
The plane in itself in my opinion is mostly a success. However, the implementation of the actual program was and still is an absolute failure with so much room for improvement. This project will last for a while so they surely have a chance to turn it around but the past can’t be undone.
So yes, we have a plane, but, the people behind the development and launch of projects like this need to seriously get it together. What good is a plane if you can’t build it effectively.
Shaheds are NOT loitering drones. They do not loiter. They are effectively very slow, cheap, cruise missiles with a small warhead, aka kamikaze drones. They are nothing like Switchblades.
Thank you USA for maintaining the world in order.
😂 how did u come up with that? Was it actual facts or just your “thought”
As someone who served in the U.S Navy I have no problem saying we spend wayyyyyy too much money on the military.
The F-35 is a really good example of the difference between the quality of the program and the quality of the underlying tool
Life service of any air force plane is 5 years at best, look at the bone yard in AZ.
F 35 is Ana amazing plane. Bugs happen when things depend on circuits . Try America with current Chinese technology
This is dumb astroturfed Russian lies. Both the tool and the program have done quite well. The F-35 is a fantastic multipurpose plane, extremely capable as EW / coordination, attack/CAS, or fighter roles. It's very convincingly won every foreign competition it's been entered into, and with a price tag lower than several much less capable gen 4 planes, with the only remaining issue being flight hour costs but those have been improved and there's every reason to expect further improvements as more customers line up and the supply chain is improved.
People who talk about F-35 crashes don't know what they're talking about. Try looking up F-15 crashes, or any other successful fighter--the F-35 is so far doing better in the reliability department.
The F35 is a trillion dollar flying barn door! Typical US MIC engineering failure😉🇷🇺
@@klaasvakie The barn door that wins every single competition it's entered into, and makes Germany essentially give up on European planes in favor of it.
Trillion dollars is extremely cheap for a multirole plane will serve in 3 branches of the armed forces all the way through the 2070s.
I am a German currently living in Thailand. married to a Thai-Chinese woman. We have a house near Chonburi city with dogs and cats. I did my PPL in Texas in the 80s. Also visited Venezuela and of course Europe. Unfortunately not Russia yet. Would very much interest me too. And I would like to at least visit Hong Kong in the future. I am 72 years old, but young enough to still make my dreams come true
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So many planes are not still ready....sound similar to my life 😅😅
America has the best military in the world!
And we have the worst health care and education system good trade off huh....🙄
whats the point if it is never going to get used except for show
@@ME-xc1st That's a good point, but if you ever do need to use it, your military will perform extraordinarily well like in the Gulf War, when Iraq at the time had the 4th largest military on the planet. Having an army that merely looks intimidating helps out a lot with diplomacy and deterrence. But if your army only looks intimidating but can't perform because you cheaped out on maintenance, logistics, training, a few pieces of tech and equipment(aka the things that make your military work and not just look cool), as Russia did in Ukraine, you're screwed politically and on the international stage.
@@MLGDatBoi deterrence only goes so far, look at russia go and china next
@@ME-xc1st You're right. Hence why you also need a military that can be used too, in case deterrence and diplomacy fail like in the Gulf War. The US-led coalition won in 100 hours after the ground campaign began, losing 292 men against what at the time was the 4th strongest military in the world. Iraq lost 50k men in those 100 hours. When we invaded Iraq again in 2003, we had roughly the same casualty numbers again and wrapped things up in a month. We did fail at nation-building, but that was on the politicians and bean counters; the military did their job just fine.
Yeah, Russia's leaders failed to make sure that their military was combat-ready when they ordered an invasion of Ukraine. Sure, the military parades have always frightened the West and made Russia look threatening, but not anymore. The War in Ukraine speaks for itself.
Military spending is so far out of control.
Says the guy that sleeps under the military’s blanket.
@Sheila G I live in a country with a military, yes. Doesn't change the fact its spending is out of control. There is zero question military spending needs to be reigned in and could be without sacrificing "safety". Grow up some would ya? Ps most of the service men and women I personally know aren't stand-out people who deserve respect. Some are, most are not. I don't put military people up on a pedestal. Deal with it.
Understatement of the year ,
The one thing we all agree is that we hate each other
Of the $800 billion, I wonder how much is actually used on the equipment. How much gets funneled other places.
Infrastructure in America should be more of priority.
What a shame, if human stop being aggressive and greedy, and all military money spent on good things, the world would be a better place 😞😞
AMEN and TESTIFY!!!!!!!!!!! 😎
Humans are partially shit so we humans need the military to exist.
As someone whonwas in the military I can confirm. You are correct
That's a little bit like saying "if we didn't have to eat, we wouldn't have to spend so much time growing food." Yeah, maybe so....but...in the real world, we have to eat. And....we have to have a military.
@Dowell318 we aren't saying we shouldn't have a military. We are saying why does it have to be so God damn big when we could use a portion of that to fix problems here at home. We could cut it in half and still have one of the best militaries in the world
I thought the toilet system sounded cool until the clog part three seconds later... Then I also realized how ridiculous it is that we can make steel float but dont know how to make poop sink.
Think the cost is crazy, imagine being the guys appointed to command these vessels! Your whole career and title is on the line screwing one thing up!
Imagine not putting an auger in your plumbing system to save yourself $400,000 every time Terry from maintenance clogs the toilet after every Wings night.
American: "the true value is in the wars it helps prevent"
US: Has declared war 11 times, invaded countries 60 times since the 1950s, has posted and potrolling armed guards in 70+ countries, and has instageted more violent internal strife in foreign nations that any country on the planet. Continues to raid farming villages seemingly for sport or training.
Every other country on the planet: "You hear what that bloodthirsty lunatic is saying?"
Lockheed straight up lying about trying to make it cheaper bro they literally be getting sued for overinflating prices 💀💀
*FACTS*
When you have a blank cheque approach to military spending. You can get to 800Bn real fast when you are paying $10,000 for a bag of washers that cost $5.
lol they kept showing that super weak ordinance essentially just opening the tailgate of that microtruck on impact
The F-35 is not. Bad program. We’re basically replacing almost our entire fighter inventory for that price
the F-35 program is a massive success. the trillion dollar price tag was not for the development, its for the entire life span of the plane thats going to span 50+ years and dog fighting has been obsolete since the 70s. in its actual task that it was built to do its unparalleled and air to air fighting is essentially who can spot the enemy first and fire a missile, not who can out preform the other in acrobatics.
the entire fighter inventory needs to be replaced, in a near peer conflict like China anything thats not the F-35 or 22 is dead before it even enters their airspace.
@@coreytaylor5386 bingo
the F-35 is a massive success, and it has been proven in numerous military exercises such as red flag as a lethal asset to the USAF
@@coreytaylor5386 well we dont know if its a success as its never seen any actual combat. I hope we never get to find out if it was successful or not
@@coreytaylor5386 it’s a success for shareholders/owners of the companies that build them. And the politicians who get kickbacks.
Comparing this to the World Cup, this is absolutely sad and devastating...
How can this be compared to the world cup? And honestly, most Americans could not care less about soccer. Just a bunch of guys running around.
Bunch of guys running around could describe WW-2.
@@frequentlycynical642seething amerimutt😊
@@r_1901 Not hardly. How in hell can you say such a thing? No one died in the World Cup. Other than one journalist.
@@frequentlycynical642 Qatar apparently $220 Billion on the world cup but I think that was not just spend on the world cup but on building over 100 hotels, infrastructure basically they used the world cup to upgrade the entire country plus record high commodity prices from the war in Ukraine probably helped them.
And they bought coffee cups for top military personnel totalling to the amount of $22000 few years back, wasteful spending 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Freedom comes at a price.
This is literally insane