@@eyad4041 wow there are US military bases in Vietnam, Laos, Myanmar, Bhoutan, Nepal, India, Afghanistan, Tadjikistan, Kirghizstan, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia and North Korea? Can you please locate them?
@@ThorNado24You didn't support Chile in 1970s, but supported the fascist overthrowers there. You're also supporting Saudi Arabia, is that a democracy?
The United States has stationed troops near China's coast, but it accuses China of expansionism. Where is the United States on the world map? Can anyone tell me?
@@brooklyn560 If you have a destructive weapon and force the other party to stand with you, if he is unwilling, then defeat him. Japan and Korea said this...
Imagine if China had military bases in Canada, Mexico, and Cuba. Would U.S. leaders be able to stay calm and find that reasonable? So why do they think China wouldn’t be furious about the military presence the U.S. has surrounded it with? Be fair!
The Crux of the matter is that the civil war between Communists and Guomindang was never resolved. After the Guomindang fled to Taiwan, the US intervened and prevented further combat. Communists and Guomindang wanted to continue the war, but the US blocked it. Now, Taiwan does not want to retake the mainland anymore, but the Communists still have the same aim as back in 1949.
Nonetheless, Taiwan was never part of the civil war. In contrast, Taiwan saved the Guoming to live and still exist today being adopted as part of government political democracy.
The very Constitution of Taiwan says that Taiwan is a province of the whole of China., The Government in Taipee officially pretends to be the authority over the whole Mainland plus islans Plus parts of Mongolia and Tibet that even China's authorities do not lay claim over. The US called Taiwan for half a century "Nationalist China". In the last decade US media and politicos are describing it as though it is not China at all.
@@ThorNado24 Taiwan sent 18 delegates in the general assemble for passing the constitution of Republic of China (official name of Taiwan) in 1947. After the implementation of the constitution, 19 delegates were elected in Taiwan. In short, Taiwan was there when the Republic of China was officially founded. Furthermore, there were several fights in Kingmen island, which is still under the control of Republic of China today. So, it's hard to say that Taiwan was never part of the civil war between KMT and CCP.
Maybe the title should be, "Why Chinese bots infiltrate the World Wide Web, yet restrict their citizens totally FROM it". NONE of these comments come from people in China, because they can't even ACCESS this video. Wanna comment on that? Seriously, I would love to have an answer, shill. Like that's gonna happen. ;-)
@@telescopicS627 So in your logic if USA civil war occured and one side ask China's help, you would be glad to see Chinese army to colonize your contry.
But china can control all that it wants? Just got back from Taiwan..any idea of what it looks like cimpared to china? You probably never left your hometown
Base what I understand from this video: Taiwan Islands belong to the same China. China has no threat to US when taking back the island. However US want to control Taiwan to contain China.
what you dont understand is US helped with the liberation of china and taiwan from Japan.. Now the communists took control of china because of russia and the real chinese government was exiled in Taiwan so now there are 2 china but the communists want to take control of taiwan too... dont summarize the whole history on a 15 minute video 😂😂
As a Taiwanese, I find our situation both confusing and troubling. The video did a good job illustrating the current relationship between nationalist China (ROC) and communist China (PRC), but it omitted some key details about the ROC’s role in international relations over the past century. When Japan withdrew from Taiwan, the Chinese Civil War was still ongoing, so there was never a clear decision as to whether Taiwan should be returned to the ROC or PRC. In 1945, the ROC represented China in the newly established United Nations. However, after the ROC government retreated to Taiwan in 1949, it continued to hold the UN seat until 1971, when the PRC replaced the ROC as a permanent member. The idea of Taiwan as an independent country is a relatively recent development, and it remains a topic of debate among Taiwanese citizens. About 40 years ago, during my parents’ generation, they were taught that the ROC was actively contesting the PRC for legitimate sovereignty over “China.” In 1972, after the ROC lost its official recognition as China in the UN, the U.S. adopted the One China policy, which recognized “one China” but left Taiwan’s status as “undetermined.”
“No matter how large a country is, if it loves war, it will perish.” This saying emphasizes that even the most powerful nations will ultimately fall if they are overly aggressive and warlike.
The best way is to increase communications between the strait. Both sides share the same culture and the same history. The wise people will finally find a way to handle.
The video claims to why both countries want to fight for Taiwan well. No apparent favoritism on one party but just explaining the history fairly. Great video 👍
One of the best unbiased productions i have ever seen of DW. Anytime we get productions like this , the debate is left to discerning viewers and listeners to think through it. This is how the news should be
this video is such a propgadanda example. they are talking about US building many military bases right next to chinas border while claiming its chinas fault for "expansionism" BUT WHO IS EXPANDING TERRITORY HERE?
That's literally the basis for the conflict between Russia and the Ukraine. The US putting military bases up against Russia's border if Ukraine joins NATO
@@justsumguy8193 who nuked Japan ? Who killed millions of Koreans until china pushed that certain north American country back ? Same country killed millions in Iraq Same country defends Israel mass murder of Palestine Same country colonized Phillipines and placed it's people in concentration camps (admitted by govt) Same country wiped out native Americans to claim their land .
Like the US should have let the South go when they seceeded from the union? They already had a president and a functioning government, but the US went and retook the south back to the union even if it meant war and millions dead.
Remember, Taiwan specializes in microchip and semi conductor production that neither the US nor China have the capability to meet. If the US isn’t getting these chips then their economy slows to a halt and maybe even regresses. Houses in the US are essentially built on chips. If chip production and exporting ended then progressing technology would be impossible
It is by design, so US can support Taiwan. The reason Asian countries are successful was to battle Communism. US gave exclusive trade to Japan with China, to prevent Japan from falling to the communist right after WW2 we rebuilt Japan's economy. Then we did the same with South Korea. Nixon made a deal with China, which was why China is a manufacturing powerhouse, and why the Soviets fell. They saw China outpacing Russia, and they got jealous.
LOL, while China here is doing EXACTLY that, per the agreement that stopped that civil war, and the US is upholding its part of that agreement. The transference you guys routinely espouse is almost beyond belief. I suppose we started the war with Russia, too. ;-/
A fun fact: Now you can use Japan visa to go Okinawa or Tokyo. Use US visa to go Alaska and Hawaii. But you can not use China Visa to go Taiwan. Also you can not get Taiwan Visa in Chinese embassy. 😂
The international society never really found a balance between sovereignty and right of national self-determination. The western countries are just happy to instigate separatism in China, leading to the falling down of another soviet union. But when north Irish, Catalonians, or Okinawa want independence, they keep silent. THe native Americans might even want their traditional lands back , what does the US say? To this date, no clear international law dictates in what circumstances can a village of a country claim independence. I believe every country can at least group together some minorities who wants independence.
The reason Taiwanese people cannot just group together and vote for independence because they (we) have been at gun point. The United States Taiwan Defense Command ended in late 1979 under Jimmy Carter, so it's been long after there was a military base in Taiwan. After that China still has not stopped certain military actions towards Taiwan. However it's also true neither does China want to make a significant move yet. Interactions between China and Taiwan is frequent and viable in commerce. At the same time CCP is also a military threat. Most people who don't live in the situation don't try to imagine what it's like to have a simultaneous commercial "ally" and a political adversary. Thus you can frequently hear the talk of status quo, which is not the result of lack of letting minorities vote. It's kind of strange to refer to Taiwan as a minority...generally most of Taiwanese population isn't referred to as ethnic minority. It does not have the exact historical root compared to Northern Ireland, Catalonia, and Okinawa. I think you might think the line that draws between minority and majority lie in either ethnic and cultural origin. That they want their way of life, speak a different dialect and have their own laws. But there's more. The greater Chinese diaspora is truly complex.
@@mojio798 yes, I actually know Okinawans. DO YOU!!! oddly one of my friends is married to Japanese, and she told me how much her father hates them. I didn't ask how he feels about the marriage.
@ stevenlouie6922 I don't think there is any hatred between people. I know a girl of mixed Chinese and Japanese. Her father is Japanese. She was born in China and returned to Japan after a few years of primary school. She still thinks of herself as a Chinese. I think she is a lovely and interesting person. She can speak Chinese and Japanese. I think she is good.
There's sentiment about Taiwan being a "pawn" between China vs US...Taiwan is only a pawn for the US to use against China. In China's eyes Taiwan is part of itself like a limb to a body. One side views it as a tool to use, the other views it part of its being. Framing the situation properly is important.
Taiwan is home to tens of millions of people who wish to rule themselves in a democracy, not be rule by the communist party across the sea. It isn't a limb.
An important correction is that the groundstate is NOT just the civil war. The groundstate is that US stepped into the Chinese civil war directly, sent in carrier fleet to stop CCP army from taking Taiwan. At that time, CCP army knew there was no possibility to get through the strait with US fleet guarding it. I.e., the Chinese civil war has never been ended because of US. Not trying to indicate anything positive or negative, but without acknowledging this FACT, one can never understand why US has almost an obligation to protect Taiwan, and why mainland Chinese people are so resentful towards US about Taiwan.
Did you know that the son and grandson of Taiwan President Lai are both in the United States? As long as they succeed in provoking a war, they can enjoy the good life in the United States. How much do you like Mr. Lai? That you are willing to be a slave to these politicians and capitalists?
Facts, and there is the little fact of an agreement involving the termination that operation, as well, where Taiwan was allowed to be called a part of China, but with China agreeing to peaceful conduct with Taiwan, which China is now infringing, at least in threatening actions.
@@MrJdsenior You seem to have only mentioned the result, not the reason. The reason is that under the instruction of the United States, Taiwan wants to be independent, and China will of course take threatening actions. Just like Scotland wants to be independent, do you think England will not care?
@@kopek3105 No one on RUclips asked for opinions on this video did they? So no one cares about you expressing your opinions to a question no one asked.
As Peter Zeihan says, America doesn’t really care that much about Taiwan’s politics, what America cares about is restricting China to the first island chain, without Taiwan, China has clear access to the Pacific.
Considering America is comprised of 335 million people, it seems overly simplistic to say they don't care about Taiwan's politics. Naturally, some Americans would care about more about Taiwan's independence for ethical reasons, others for financial reasons, and some may have other reasons. They aren't a monolith, and Peter Zeihan isn't right about everything he says.
Can we really say "The majority of Taiwanese want to maintain the status quo"? I think what they really want is independence, but they cannot say it due to China's threats.
Can it really be said that "most Chinese do not want to reunify with Taiwan"? I think what they really want is reunification, but they don't do it because of the threat from the United States
Lol....People are so dishonest or deluded. Taiwan to China isn't about land expansion or semiconductors. They'll lead the world in that in a decade. You may not agree with their take, but to them it's a matter of historical justice. It's not a geopolitical card to play.
It could end up that way. But German reunification happened only because the citizenry of both parts were for it. That is not the case with Taiwan, that desire has consistently failed at the ballot box. I think the analogy that better fits your argument in that the Falklands are part of Argentina. But the people actually LIVING there were never for that, so after Argentina invaded 40 years ago, the UK declared war and took it back, on behalf of the territory it had declared it would protect. If your argument is not that reunification should be based on citizen wishes but historical precedent, then were do we stop? Should Sweden or Russia reabsorb Finland, should France demand Germany and Spain in order to recreate the Frakish empire, or should England get the entire western half of France to recreate the Angevin empire, should Italy lay claim to the entire Mediterranean coastline & much more to reestablish the Roman Empire - which existed for half a millennium?
if offending Taiwan origins from the civil war between CPC and KMT and is just a home affair for Chinese people. What does it have to do with US? Didn't Chinese people have the right and the power to solve their own problems?
They always are. Not quite as silly in appearance as Lavrov and company, but still, pretty obvious. I've seen a couple of CCP spokesman that are just as ridiculous as Lavrov (lapdog0, though.
Taiwan to China, is kind of like Texas to the Federal States. The only difference is when the Confederate States lost the Civil war, they don't have an isolated island to take shelter in. Imagine if the South is not under federal control, and they elect their own president and develop their own "democracy", would that be tolerated by the White House? Absolutely no chance.
The US is not obsessed with Taiwan. The one who trying to conquer Taiwan is China, not the US lmao You are basically anti-Asian. Because U r supporting China.
Forcing people to accept your ideas is not democratic and goes against your ideas. You can use your shallow understanding to impose your own understanding on a civilization, nation, or history that you have never deeply understood, and intervene in the local area by force and command, demanding that the local area must obey your ideas. Think about what your own behavior is? Think about how others see you.
You have no idea about what "Taiwan Independence" really means. "ROC is an independent nation" is exactly another example of deliberate ambiguity. Simply put, "Taiwan independence" means the country somehow stop being (the Republic of) China, maybe through constitutional amendment or reform of government. Anyway, it will be qualified as a unilateral change to the status quo which the US has always been strongly opposing.
I am from Taipei, Taiwan, and I would like to say on behalf of my personal voice How can Taiwan be confident of receiving international support or assistance before it is banned from spending billions of dollars a year on Russian energy purchases? The insistence of a few Taiwanese companies on purchasing and using Russian coal is one of the reasons why the Ukrainian people are suffering. This has also led to concerns that Taiwan as a whole may not be able to obtain the international status that a democratic country deserves, and may not receive full support. Clean and cheap coal has Russia’s backing. At this point, just as North Korea sends troops to attack Ukraine, billions of dollars are enough to launch hundreds of missiles, which will certainly destroy Ukrainian residents, important energy facilities, ammunition depots, and the United States, NATO and other international organizations. The burden of defense assistance will increase, and I sincerely hope that Taiwan will immediately stop assisting Russia. U.S. OFAC should immediately impose secondary sanctions and freeze the company's U.S. bank accounts. EU countries must also be notified to formulate relevant strategies as soon as possible so that the Taiwan government can withdraw its support for Russia as soon as possible.
@@maxcupher mate you need to educate yourself, Ukrainians are corrupt and led by a dictator, further learn the history of the Region. Useless of A instigated the war by funding coup throwing out pro Russian govt that was voted in!!
The title should be. Why is the us so obsessed with Taiwan the Chinese province and having so many military stations surrounding China while the u s a is on the other side of vast ocean?
Cause when we keep to ourself things like Pearl Harbor and 9/11 happen, we tried Isolationism it never worked both world wars. I do not know if your a American but I know the U.S lacks focus on historical stuidies so I do not blame you for not knowing that.
@@EnlistedBombin Israel also commits massacres in the Middle East because it believes it wasn't secure enough in the past. If any historical event can serve as justification for such actions, then China could invade numerous Western countries, including the U.S., because, in the past 200 years, China has suffered invasions and massacres by many nations. How dare you even say such shameless words? learn some history？
@@dexterdexpert8876 Oh you mean the 7 day war when everyone one of Isreals arabic nieghbors tried to invade them and got there butts spanked? Where they took part of Egypt and the U.S. forced Isreal to give it back? Oh yea CHINA did not exist until the 40s it was a bunch of indpendent states. Infact the reason Tiawan is the way tiwain is, is because the democratic forces all fled there and started there own china. When the U.S. Supports 1 china policy we mean Tiawan being the one china. How dare you try to spit a false narrative about history then use other terrible examples.
As per my knowledge, Taiwan produces almost 90% micro chips, semiconductors of the world. If China submerge Taiwan with China, China would have the super power to manipulate anything. Even USA would loses a position to bargain.
One nuance that's rarely explained when people mention Taiwan claiming to be the government of China or Taiwan having all these far-flung Qing-era territorial claims (e.g. over Mongolia) is that the Taiwanese government can't _stop_ claiming these things, because if it does, that's tantamount to proclaiming independence. Which might get it invaded. It's an odd situation where a (de facto) country is effectively being threatened to maintain a territorial dispute.
aye, and everytime i hear CCP wumaos saying but but Taiwan claims right over mainland so it is still a civil war! neglecting that they do that because if they amended the constitution to stop saying that the same thing happens
Whatever the name, doesn't matter. Taiwanese voted to remain free and independent. Who in the right mind wants to be governed by China? Who wants to lose their freedom of speech/expression, basic human dignity and Rights? Even Pakistani's, despite being allies China, with all their civil wars, terrorism and economic mess, don't want to immigrate to China, rather prefer to go west. Why? Basic human freedom. West should protect Taiwan.
It's a sad reality that whenever any country discusses Taiwan, the thoughts and opinions of the Taiwanese people are always secondary. As people born in Taiwan, we are not allowed to join China or formally declare the establishment of a country called 'Taiwan.' Instead, we are forced to maintain the status quo. We watch as other countries celebrate their national days or play their national anthems at sporting events, while Taiwanese people can only play the flag anthem of the Kuomintang. Taiwan doesn't even have its own national anthem. The Taiwanese people lack a sense of national identity, and it is disheartening to think about it, yet we are powerless to change it. People from other countries can never truly understand the helplessness that the Taiwanese feel.🥲
When you say "powerless" to change it, what you really mean is, you want it but you don't want to pay a price. I know it is hard to admit, but it seems communist party is more determined than Taiwan public in controlling Taiwan's future. I am not saying communist party is right, I am just claiming a fact.
How about promoting democracies in the Gulf countries? How about stoping Modi of India from killing minorities? We can go on and on about US duplicity and brutality towards the rest of the world. Henry Kissinger said ‘ its dangerous to be an enemy of the US but its detrimental/disastrous to be its ally’ Japan/Phillippines and even Australia will learn that over the next couple of decades.
The fact that Taiwan is a democracy now does NOT give the US to station troops or to support what amounts to a illegal dissident regime on Chinese soil. And this emphasis on Taiwanese democracy by the US smacks of hypocrisy, given that for most of China's history, Taiwan was a military dictatorship. What then, was the reason for supporting Taiwan? It's quite clear that the US presence in the Taiwan Strait has zero to do with democracy and more to do with containment. The US does not have a legal right to be in Taiwan, just as Russia has no legal right to be in Crimea or Eastern Ukraine.
You got that right. I'd like to believe that the US will remain committed to Taiwan due to democracy, etc. But a more cynical examination points to the idea that once the US feels confident that domestic chip manufacturing meets the need, defense of Taiwan may become a luxury we say we can't afford.
TSMC isnt as big of a reason to take Taiwan, no matter how dominant the company is. Technological secrets can flow, engineers can move, machines can be destroyed. The main reason would be a leader's desire to be credited with the success of taking Taiwan. So that's the only real reason a status quo would be broken imo.
Great video, neutral and objective. So we see that America's hands are way too long, even stretch across the Pacific to disgust Chinese.😅 The disruption of China is the historical problem of Chinese civil war, and i don't think the USA have any excuse to intervene it.😢
China has the right to claim it's own territories like Taiwan and secure it from foreign countries (like the USA). Why is the US meddling in China's domestic affairs? How would the US gov react if Russia tries to meddle and free Alaska from the US? It wouldn't be right would it.
I am Taiwanese. I don’t know which country you are from, but I want to ask you a question. If North Korea told you that it wanted to protect you from American aggression and forced you to live a North Korean lifestyle Do you want to ?
The communist Chinese government never ruled Taiwan. How does it make it legal for it to claim Taiwan is its own territory? Look up the history before commenting.
@@fatcat-rr9oe It sounds like there is some difference between the lifestyles of Taiwan and China. China has so many ethnic minorities and we respect everyone's lifestyle.
I think China should be obsessed with Hawaii, Alaska, Texas, and California. If China also supports their independence and sells them weapons, how should the United States respond?
DW: why do you always talk about possible reunification of North and South Korea. two countries that separated about the same time mainland china and Taiwan did
Because it is impossible for North Korea and South Korea to unify, and the Chinese navy has expanded nearly fivefold in just a decade, the Communist Party is very confident in unifying Taiwan and expelling the military forces of the United States in the Western Pacific.
If North and South Korea unify, the resulting state would fall in western sphere of control (US approves). If china and taiwan unify, the result would be US losing influence in Taiwan
Look at the distance between France and the UK, surely they should be one country?? Yeah we tried that but after many hundreds of years of wars we stopped trying to take over each others countries.
Following defeat in the First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895), the Qing government signs the Treaty of Shimonoseki, by which it cedes sovereignty over Taiwan to Japan, which rules the island until 1945. The ROC was established by Dr. Sun Yet-Sen in 1911 and was on e of the allies of US during WWII. By contrast, while PRC was established in October 1, 1949 by Mao and is an adversary of US.
the communist were fighting side by side, in WW2, and the reason they won right after WW2, was the nationalist was trying to save their own butts and sold supplies to Japan . US stopped supplying the nationalist, because of the corruption they saw, and the Communist took advantage. The peasants saw the betrayal by the nationalist , and it became a major recruitment for the Communist.
China should establish it's military presence around Guam, Hawaii, Puerto Rico. Maybe China should liberate these territories from the US and gain it's independence and democracy.
From my observation as a Taiwanese, the People's Republic of China sends military planes and warships to Taiwan every day, and then keeps saying that it wants peace, and even that "both sides of the Taiwan Strait are one family," which is completely contradictory. Taiwan has never taken the initiative to undermine stability on both sides of the Taiwan Strait. It is the People's Republic of China that continues to intimidate Taiwan with civil and military attacks.
Prove it. I bet you cannot. lol The fact is that there are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China.
Because it's an EVIL regime. Just look at how they treat their own people. You want that regime to have the opportunity to be the dominant power in the world? Imagine your own life under such rule.
It isn't. It's protecting neighboring country as China rapidly grows it's military for no reason. The US, since the 60's and 70's has been aiding China with economic policies even providing manufacturing that has made it wealthy. Now they want to be in charge and bully neighbors, including taking territory. It doesn't work that way.
Not at all. Maine was one of the 13 colonies of the US and formed a union against Great Britain. Taiwan has never organized with China, and as only ever been colonized and occupied by both China and European's in it's history against the will of it's people.
No, they were acting in self-interest to colonize. The United States and it's allies defeated Japan in a World War 2 and has managed the ergion to avoid future aggression. Russia and China has being communist states, started to invade and conquer other nations. The US therefore needed to remain in the pacific to stifle that aggression to prevent repeating another world war. Despite that, the US worked with China for 50 years to help provide economic aid and grow manufacturing in China and the region. China's economy grew big enough to now they felt the need to have hegemony in the region and say of all things in Asia and the pacific. It doesn't work that way.
As Nações Unidas, incluindo os EUA e toda OTAN, reconhecem uma só China. Ora, é desonesto falar que a China queira exercer um controle sobre um território milenarmente chinez. Ideologias à parte, o mundo ficaria mais em paz se não houvesse tanto intervencionismo de caráter unilateral e imperialista. O futuro está na multipolaridade, e as diretrizes acordadas pelos países dos BRICS+ constituem o melhor exemplo.
Help Us😢😢😢: Taiwan’s Democracy is Under Threat Taiwan is in crisis. What was once a proud democracy is now slipping into authoritarianism as political forces take control of our judiciary. The recent case of Ko Wen-je highlights this alarming trend. Initially released by one judge due to lack of evidence, Ko was detained just days later by another judge with strong political ties-despite no proof of wrongdoing. This is not justice; this is political persecution. Ko has endured 70 hours of interrogation without evidence, while details of his case were leaked to the media to shape public opinion before any trial. This manipulation of the judiciary is a dangerous sign that Taiwan’s democracy is being dismantled. We ask for your help. Today it is Ko, tomorrow it could be anyone who opposes the ruling power. If the judiciary becomes a tool for political oppression, Taiwan’s freedom will be lost. We need the international community to stand with us, to protect justice, and to prevent this slide into dictatorship. Please, help us before it’s too late.
@@freya1337 The whole world knows that only with clear evidence of corruption can someone be convicted. But in Taiwan, we are witnessing the distortion of the justice system into a tool of oppression. Taiwan's prosecutors have weaponized the unique "profit from official misconduct" charge, and without any evidence of bribery, they have unjustly imprisoned Mayor Ko Wen-je in Tucheng, subjecting him to judicial torture. This is not justice-it is pure political persecution. This is not just about Mayor Ko's fate, but about the fate of freedom and justice in Taiwan. When the rule of law is twisted, and justice is abused, every one of us becomes the next potential victim. I call upon the world to lend a helping hand. Taiwan needs your support to resist this injustice. We cannot allow this judicial tyranny to succeed. We cannot let authoritarian forces crush our future. This is a fight for freedom and dignity, and we need the international community to stand with us to defend real justice and save Taiwan's democracy!
As a Taiwanese, I'd like to point out that what the video says in 10:15 is incorrect, the allies did not FORCE Japan to give Taiwan to China. Giving back Taiwan was once considered but was interrupted because the Allies feared the ROC would lose the civil war and Taiwan would be controlled by the Communists. It turned out the ROC loss indeed. That is why according to the Treaty of San Francisco, Taiwan was only renounced but not transferred and thus our status has been "undetermined". Basically, the Allies, especially the US, wanted Taiwan to be returned to China IF ONLY the ROC represented China. China (the PRC) clearly chooses to misunderstand that. On the other hand, the ROC also chooses to misunderstand that. Even though the ROC does not represent China anymore, it still claims Taiwan to be part of their territory. According to United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1514, all peoples have the right to self-determination, and I hope someday both the PRC and the ROC will leave us alone. Hope this explains well. PS. People often think the US wants to control everything, but I'm really grateful for what they did for Taiwan. Also, as a Taiwanese, I believe I know China much better than other countries do, and they are just as... ummm, unpleasant, as the news portraits.
the Allies feared the ROC would lose the civil war does not justify that taiwan is not part of China. And as you mentioned UN 1514, all people have the right to self-determination, that means Chinese people could choose which force to govern the whole China which including Taiwan. There is no dynasty in Chinese history seperate the whole China with out been reunified later in history. The civil war has not ended yet. That is the status quo.
@@shining1907 Yeah, of course the fear of the ROC losing the civil war itself does not justify that Taiwan is not part of China, the Treaty of San Francisco does :)
@@brendezvous then see the Treaty of Taipei between ROC and Japan. And look at your passport. ROC's territory includes mainland provinces and Taiwan province.
Our grandfathers used to tell : Never feed your wife full before 80yrs old, never let China be strong before you die, or else your wife will make your life miserable inside your house, while China will make you rather stay inside that miserable house than joining their wars.
The truth is that Taiwan is a part of China,no matter the country is contorled by communists or Guomindang.However,Minjindang want to make Taiwan an independent country.This cannot be concept by communists,but America like it
@@JonySmith-bb4gx The Manchurian Qing government (not Chinese) controlled less than 20% of Formosa. The first country to conquer Taiwan was Japan. There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies, agreements or UN resolutions that declare that Taiwan is part of China
Imagine China is the US, Taiwan is Cuba, someone wants to not only put mussels, but put military all around you, then maybe Americans could connect the dots.
@@jamesbarbosa8714 It is metaphor of Geopolitics, it is about the location if understand the China and Taiwan situation correctly. But you have to admit that Cuba is living under the pressure of U.S.' power.
Taiwan is just a province of China, just like Hawaii is a state of America. The unification of country is more important than the social system in view of most of Chinese people.
Because Taiwan is a loose cannon. If they get too trigger happy with independence, it'll be war. If PRC makes a move, it'll be war. Either way, the US (and the world at large) will get dragged into a nasty war whether they like it or not. Funny enough, in a twisted way, the most peaceful solution to this problem is the status quo, which is what US has been pursuing for the last few decades. The US is not obsessed WITH Taiwan; they are obsessed with the ramifications of anything happening to Taiwan. Any more questions?
It’s not about what system is adopted in Taiwan Taiwan is a part and province of China China has the absolute right to exercise its sovereignty over Taiwan
I sympathize with your perspective, the US would never allow for the secession of any states. We fought a war to keep the South. But geopolitics doesn't revolve around right or wrong. If Hawaii seceded from the Union, China would also try to prevent the US from reclaiming it. At the end of the day, geopolitics is just about power. Keeping Taiwan separate means it's harder for China to project power into the pacific.
@@ResearchFirst-z7j Let me explained this to you since you are confused. Politics aside, you can't pretend that Taiwanese people aren't Chinese, our blood bond is undeniable. I'll even bet that your own grandparents are from the mainland, and you probably have uncles and cousins or whatnot in the mainland right now) and you can't pretend that Taiwan wasn't a part of a civilization that's called China for centuries before the recent separation. We are one same family in terms of historical continuity and cultural and lingual unity. You can't be so delusional to not know that. OK. now, political-wise, very simple, it is a civil war that has caused this peculiar situation of Taiwan, and the war was between CCP and KMT. So, CCP, as the winning party, indeed has a say in the matter of Taiwan, and that war deserves an ending. P.S. Do not let western media fool you to hate China.
@@zipei1673 I think it is you that is confused. Firstly: There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies, agreements or UN resolutions that declare that Taiwan is part of China. The only legal way that the CCP can unify with Taiwan is via an official written treaty. In terms of race, Singapore is 75% pure Chinese, 14% of Thailand's population is pure Chinese & there are 8 million pure Chinese living in Malasia. So what is your point?? Taiwan is a mixed race in fact 10% of their population is of Japanese heritage. On top of this there are millions of mixed Aboriginals (Tsai Ing-wen is of mixed race), Dutch and Portuguese descendants. The Taiwanese in fact fought against China in Nanjing. So what is your point????? When ROC escapees fled to the still officially Japanese island in 1949, they were about 15% of the population. Therefore 85% of the people of Taiwan were not even at war with the CCP. So what is your point? The civil war was never over Taiwan and the island was Japanese territory during the war. So what is your point?? In term of history, CHINA HAS NEVER RULED TAIWAN. The Qing who were Manchurian and like the Mongols not Chinese, had minimal control of Taiwan. The Qing only managed to rule less than 20% of the island while the aborigines ruled and controlled over 80% of the island. The Qing created a border in 1750 with rocks which was called the Tu Niu Red Line. The Japanese were the first country to colonise Formosa and create roads and infrastructure. So what is your point??? Due to the lack of control, the Qing did not declare Formosa a Province of the Qing until 1895 as the Japanese was encroaching on the island. The island was handed to Japan 10 years later. So what is your point??? Taiwan was not added into the PRC constitution until 1978 when Deng Xiaoping become president. So what is your point?? The war was never over Taiwan and the ROC escaped to the Japanese island of Formosa. There is no delusion it is clear. The point is the PRC has no sovereignty of Taiwan.
The difficulty of Taiwan to be independent is even if they call for a referendum, it has to be carried on both the main land and on the island. Remember there's only one China, this means people on the main land believe the island is Chinese and people on the island know it's Chinese. All people of China have to vote, and those results won't be accepted by the US as they will surely make China the greatest. Taiwan is China, the only possible way to bring peace is accept unification. Mainland China is only getting stronger and stronger and nothing the west can do, and by the time China shift to the last option which is force it will be impossible to fight against.
This logic sounds a little weird for me. Does Brexit carry on both the UK and the rest of the EU? Does the Scottish independence referendum carry on both Scotland and the rest of the UK?
@@skyleaker1. EU is a federalist-like union and not a country. Any country can leave without any votes. 2. The 2014 Scottish Referendum DID involve the whole UK. You just buried yourself.
@@skyleaker Lol. You’re a bit daft. The whole UK voted for the Scottish Referendum in 2014 not just people that live in Scotland. And said “No” by the way. So same logic applies to Taiwan since it is a part of China: the whole country needs to vote on a referendum should it go that route of independence. Right now it is a renegade state.
@@xhaozhao Eligibility to vote Under the terms of the 2010 Draft Bill, the following people were entitled to vote in the referendum: British citizens who were resident in Scotland; Citizens of other Commonwealth countries who were resident in Scotland; Citizens of other European Union countries who were resident in Scotland; Members of the House of Lords who were resident in Scotland; Service/Crown personnel serving in the UK or overseas in the British Armed Forces or with Her Majesty's Government who were registered to vote in Scotland. I think the idea is clear, Scottish people can make their own mind about their belongs. Not the whole UK.
Nope, and we haven't broken this one. If China attacks Taiwan, and even with their actions now, THEY are breaking the treaty. How have we broken it? We never made any treaty that said China could take Taiwan by force, in fact, that is the exact opposite of the treaty.
DW tells us about how the US is worried about expansionist China while showing a map of China surrounded by US Military bases. We live in La La Land.
expansionist means using Barbaric Water canon and Swords against international law in south china sea...
China "expansionism" 😂. Meanwhile, the US is in Asia right on China's doorstep. Now, who is the expansionist and bully?
The US is not expanding, it already has expanded.
@@eyad4041 wow there are US military bases in Vietnam, Laos, Myanmar, Bhoutan, Nepal, India, Afghanistan, Tadjikistan, Kirghizstan, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia and North Korea?
Can you please locate them?
America needs to stop getting involved in countries business
i understand why China so obsessed with Taiwan, But i dont understand Why German, UK, AU, Canada and so on so obsessed with Taiwan?
Principles of democracy. Free nations support each other.
@@ThorNado24 1939 Germany was a democracy 😂😂😂
Free nations support china
@@ThorNado24You didn't support Chile in 1970s, but supported the fascist overthrowers there. You're also supporting Saudi Arabia, is that a democracy?
The democratic camp supports Ukraine and also supports Taiwan
@@ThorNado24 universal reason, isn't it
The United States has stationed troops near China's coast, but it accuses China of expansionism. Where is the United States on the world map? Can anyone tell me?
Why are so many of chinas neighbors drawing closer and closer to the us? I’ll wait 😂😂😂
China dropped troops from air balloons over the US.
Why does China have a bad relationship with almost all the countries surrounding it? I'll wait too
@@brooklyn560 If you have a destructive weapon and force the other party to stand with you, if he is unwilling, then defeat him. Japan and Korea said this...
Global intrest lol 😆
Imagine if China had military bases in Canada, Mexico, and Cuba. Would U.S. leaders be able to stay calm and find that reasonable? So why do they think China wouldn’t be furious about the military presence the U.S. has surrounded it with? Be fair!
check How JFK responded to the Cuban Missile Crisis.... we were 1 cm close to the nuclear war.....
It would be like China having military bases on the Florida Keys, lol.
Why would they have it there? They're not partners protecting the waters. It would solely be for antagonistic reasons.
@@DavidJackson-i3l Not at all. Florida Keys is in the US.
@@bui3415 Exactly!
Then China should be obsessed with Hawaii. Hawaii should be free
What are the similarities?
That is an fantastic idea, i can not agree more.
EEUU hegemony in the world interference in Chinese internal affairs
Hawaii is free, Wu Mao.
Every American in Hawaii is protected by the US Constitution.
@@FactCheckerGuy 嗯 自由德克萨斯，自由加利福尼亚，自由夏威夷。
The Crux of the matter is that the civil war between Communists and Guomindang was never resolved. After the Guomindang fled to Taiwan, the US intervened and prevented further combat. Communists and Guomindang wanted to continue the war, but the US blocked it. Now, Taiwan does not want to retake the mainland anymore, but the Communists still have the same aim as back in 1949.
Nonetheless, Taiwan was never part of the civil war. In contrast, Taiwan saved the Guoming to live and still exist today being adopted as part of government political democracy.
Since the civil war, KMT defended CN from taking TW, built electronic industry (especially TSCM) and started the inexpensive heath care in 1996.
@@陳先聲-w8m The NHI was implemented in 1995 during the presidency of Lee Teng-hui. The man, not the party, improved Taiwan.
The very Constitution of Taiwan says that Taiwan is a province of the whole of China., The Government in Taipee officially pretends to be the authority over the whole Mainland plus islans Plus parts of Mongolia and Tibet that even China's authorities do not lay claim over. The US called Taiwan for half a century "Nationalist China". In the last decade US media and politicos are describing it as though it is not China at all.
@@ThorNado24 Taiwan sent 18 delegates in the general assemble for passing the constitution of Republic of China (official name of Taiwan) in 1947. After the implementation of the constitution, 19 delegates were elected in Taiwan. In short, Taiwan was there when the Republic of China was officially founded. Furthermore, there were several fights in Kingmen island, which is still under the control of Republic of China today. So, it's hard to say that Taiwan was never part of the civil war between KMT and CCP.
The title should be "Why the US insists on trying to intervene in the Chinese civil war".
Maybe the title should be, "Why Chinese bots infiltrate the World Wide Web, yet restrict their citizens totally FROM it". NONE of these comments come from people in China, because they can't even ACCESS this video. Wanna comment on that? Seriously, I would love to have an answer, shill. Like that's gonna happen. ;-)
Taiwan asked us to be there.
@@telescopicS627 So in your logic if USA civil war occured and one side ask China's help, you would be glad to see Chinese army to colonize your contry.
@@telescopicS627 No they didn't. That's always the US excuse. The ROC lost the war on the Mainland even though it was funded and armed by the US.
But china can control all that it wants? Just got back from Taiwan..any idea of what it looks like cimpared to china? You probably never left your hometown
The related history is clearly presented. This kind of objective documentary is rare in RUclips.
you called this objective?
@@ericchan4493 That's the objective fact
Nonsense, Taiwan is a province of China, this is China's internal affairs.
文化不同，注定对立，就算没有敌人，盎撒人也会制造敌人，本质上是利益，资本总是要吃人的😂
@@YiHang-gw4rlThat's only part of the truth.
Base what I understand from this video: Taiwan Islands belong to the same China. China has no threat to US when taking back the island. However US want to control Taiwan to contain China.
the us and its lap dogs have NO BUSINESS to meddle in the internal matter of China.
The US is not trying to control Taiwan. They want to prevent China from exerting its communism into nearby democratic countries and ROC.
what you dont understand is US helped with the liberation of china and taiwan from Japan.. Now the communists took control of china because of russia and the real chinese government was exiled in Taiwan so now there are 2 china but the communists want to take control of taiwan too... dont summarize the whole history on a 15 minute video 😂😂
As a Taiwanese, I find our situation both confusing and troubling. The video did a good job illustrating the current relationship between nationalist China (ROC) and communist China (PRC), but it omitted some key details about the ROC’s role in international relations over the past century. When Japan withdrew from Taiwan, the Chinese Civil War was still ongoing, so there was never a clear decision as to whether Taiwan should be returned to the ROC or PRC.
In 1945, the ROC represented China in the newly established United Nations. However, after the ROC government retreated to Taiwan in 1949, it continued to hold the UN seat until 1971, when the PRC replaced the ROC as a permanent member. The idea of Taiwan as an independent country is a relatively recent development, and it remains a topic of debate among Taiwanese citizens. About 40 years ago, during my parents’ generation, they were taught that the ROC was actively contesting the PRC for legitimate sovereignty over “China.”
In 1972, after the ROC lost its official recognition as China in the UN, the U.S. adopted the One China policy, which recognized “one China” but left Taiwan’s status as “undetermined.”
@@吳雅婷-o3b 现在的处境确实会有些紧张，中国是热爱和平的国家，想必没有谁希望发生和面临战争，我认为应该尽快结束这种紧张令人不安的局面，台湾早点回归是最好的结果😊
“No matter how large a country is, if it loves war, it will perish.” This saying emphasizes that even the most powerful nations will ultimately fall if they are overly aggressive and warlike.
Thats why China has broken apart like 5 times
@@shortyzander1341 China wasn’t powerful since World War 2 and couldn’t even defend itself, then how come considering it “agressive and warlike”?
@@shortyzander1341isn’t it the United States
@@lucky-d6z look into chinese history
Do you mean America is doomed?
The best way is to increase communications between the strait. Both sides share the same culture and the same history. The wise people will finally find a way to handle.
Im glad the comments are wise and no longer brainwashed by legacy media.
The video claims to why both countries want to fight for Taiwan well. No apparent favoritism on one party but just explaining the history fairly. Great video 👍
yes，i agree with y
UN has declarea Taiwan is one part of China. It was a world wide concept.
i hope so. But why America still want to control it ?
@@Chengzi-D 因為美國在亞太的勢力范圍自越南戰爭後就沒有變過，當美國在歐洲和南美逐漸衰退的時候，中國自內戰後就一直在恢復和發展經濟，先與蘇聯合作然後與美國合作，直到2016年之後才開始挑戰美國在亞太二戰後的勢力范圍，如果說在日本和菲律賓中國無法與美國競爭，中國在東南亞和台灣的優勢非常明顯，這也是為什麼美國將軍艦退到第二島鏈，實際上台灣人所期待的美國為了台灣和中國打一場世界大戰的可能性非常低，美國人會把台灣變成像烏克蘭一樣的戰爭地獄，讓大陸人和台灣人互相廝殺，但是中國知道絕對不能成為第二個俄羅斯，所以他們在激烈鬥爭
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@ Chengzi-D Because the UN has no power over the US.😂
@@Chengzi-DGreed
This is good, as a Taiwanese. Really represents the stark contrast between what we see in the news versus the relaxed urban atmosphere of Taipei. 🙏
One of the best unbiased productions i have ever seen of DW. Anytime we get productions like this , the debate is left to discerning viewers and listeners to think through it. This is how the news should be
Nice job explaining a complex geopolitical situation. Also, love the animation...as usual! Keep up the great work
Its not complex. That's just bs that gets said then repeated
this video is such a propgadanda example. they are talking about US building many military bases right next to chinas border while claiming its chinas fault for "expansionism" BUT WHO IS EXPANDING TERRITORY HERE?
They are not all around China, They are all around South Korea and Japan.
@@justsumguy8193 Yes, South Korea and Japan invited them.
That's literally the basis for the conflict between Russia and the Ukraine. The US putting military bases up against Russia's border if Ukraine joins NATO
@@justsumguy8193 That‘s because there are no more islands around mainland China, if there are, I believe US will station troops there.
@@justsumguy8193 who nuked Japan ? Who killed millions of Koreans until china pushed that certain north American country back ?
Same country killed millions in Iraq
Same country defends Israel mass murder of Palestine
Same country colonized Phillipines and placed it's people in concentration camps (admitted by govt)
Same country wiped out native Americans to claim their land .
No one is actually thinking about what the Taiwanese people want. Like dude...let the people over there decide what they want.
Taiwan do not want war
@@floraspa9018 taiwan do not want to be under china
@@floraspa9018 yes, but they also want to be left alone by the CCP
Like the US should have let the South go when they seceeded from the union? They already had a president and a functioning government, but the US went and retook the south back to the union even if it meant war and millions dead.
Taiwan is part of china @@Cha-jq2po
Excellent documentary! Thanks!
Taiwan and the integrity of the first island chain are very important to Japan's security. Yet it's omitted.
Remember, Taiwan specializes in microchip and semi conductor production that neither the US nor China have the capability to meet. If the US isn’t getting these chips then their economy slows to a halt and maybe even regresses. Houses in the US are essentially built on chips. If chip production and exporting ended then progressing technology would be impossible
It is by design, so US can support Taiwan. The reason Asian countries are successful was to battle Communism.
US gave exclusive trade to Japan with China, to prevent Japan from falling to the communist right after WW2 we rebuilt Japan's economy. Then we did the same with South Korea. Nixon made a deal with China, which was why China is a manufacturing powerhouse, and why the Soviets fell. They saw China outpacing Russia, and they got jealous.
America please stop Neo colonialism and terrorist action
No
@@hjc7429yes or you ll be forced to
LOL, while China here is doing EXACTLY that, per the agreement that stopped that civil war, and the US is upholding its part of that agreement. The transference you guys routinely espouse is almost beyond belief. I suppose we started the war with Russia, too. ;-/
The US hasn't done anything but watch the waters. Stop expanding.
If leaving status quo is more profitable, leave it. China should be calling for a vote from the people of Taiwan.
A fun fact: Now you can use Japan visa to go Okinawa or Tokyo. Use US visa to go Alaska and Hawaii.
But you can not use China Visa to go Taiwan.
Also you can not get Taiwan Visa in Chinese embassy. 😂
因为台湾是叛乱的一个省，这有什么 奇怪的？你说 台湾护照 签证国家多，可是哪些国家并不承认台湾是国啊，也没有正式的外交关系！
聯合國：台灣是中國一個省
中國：台灣是中國一個省
美國白宮：不支持台獨
俄羅斯：台灣是中國一個省
歐盟：不會承認台灣的國家地位
澳洲總理：台灣只是一個經濟體
塞爾維亞：台灣是中國一個省
泰國：台灣是中國的一部分
菲律賓：台海軍演是中國內政
WTO：中國台澎金馬關稅區
ICAO：中國台灣省
这源于台湾的政府，但是就在这个月开始，福建省的人可以往来金门了
Please don't show off your ignorance here!
Before 1945, one needs a Japanese visa to go to Taiwan!
This is why China need to be reunited.
我上个月才去台湾旅游
The international society never really found a balance between sovereignty and right of national self-determination. The western countries are just happy to instigate separatism in China, leading to the falling down of another soviet union. But when north Irish, Catalonians, or Okinawa want independence, they keep silent. THe native Americans might even want their traditional lands back , what does the US say? To this date, no clear international law dictates in what circumstances can a village of a country claim independence. I believe every country can at least group together some minorities who wants independence.
The reason Taiwanese people cannot just group together and vote for independence because they (we) have been at gun point. The United States Taiwan Defense Command ended in late 1979 under Jimmy Carter, so it's been long after there was a military base in Taiwan. After that China still has not stopped certain military actions towards Taiwan. However it's also true neither does China want to make a significant move yet. Interactions between China and Taiwan is frequent and viable in commerce. At the same time CCP is also a military threat. Most people who don't live in the situation don't try to imagine what it's like to have a simultaneous commercial "ally" and a political adversary. Thus you can frequently hear the talk of status quo, which is not the result of lack of letting minorities vote. It's kind of strange to refer to Taiwan as a minority...generally most of Taiwanese population isn't referred to as ethnic minority. It does not have the exact historical root compared to Northern Ireland, Catalonia, and Okinawa. I think you might think the line that draws between minority and majority lie in either ethnic and cultural origin. That they want their way of life, speak a different dialect and have their own laws. But there's more. The greater Chinese diaspora is truly complex.
So the people of Okinawa want independence, but they are also under the gun @ Mewwykat
@@mojio798 yes, I actually know Okinawans. DO YOU!!! oddly one of my friends is married to Japanese, and she told me how much her father hates them. I didn't ask how he feels about the marriage.
@ stevenlouie6922 I don't think there is any hatred between people. I know a girl of mixed Chinese and Japanese. Her father is Japanese. She was born in China and returned to Japan after a few years of primary school. She still thinks of herself as a Chinese. I think she is a lovely and interesting person. She can speak Chinese and Japanese. I think she is good.
There's sentiment about Taiwan being a "pawn" between China vs US...Taiwan is only a pawn for the US to use against China. In China's eyes Taiwan is part of itself like a limb to a body. One side views it as a tool to use, the other views it part of its being. Framing the situation properly is important.
Sadly this limb doesn't seem like it wants to be used as a tool or be attached to a body
Taiwan is home to tens of millions of people who wish to rule themselves in a democracy, not be rule by the communist party across the sea. It isn't a limb.
@@FactCheckerGuy i dont think hawaii islands people love to drink nuclear polluted water by USA
An important correction is that the groundstate is NOT just the civil war. The groundstate is that US stepped into the Chinese civil war directly, sent in carrier fleet to stop CCP army from taking Taiwan. At that time, CCP army knew there was no possibility to get through the strait with US fleet guarding it. I.e., the Chinese civil war has never been ended because of US.
Not trying to indicate anything positive or negative, but without acknowledging this FACT, one can never understand why US has almost an obligation to protect Taiwan, and why mainland Chinese people are so resentful towards US about Taiwan.
Did you know that the son and grandson of Taiwan President Lai are both in the United States? As long as they succeed in provoking a war, they can enjoy the good life in the United States. How much do you like Mr. Lai? That you are willing to be a slave to these politicians and capitalists?
Facts, and there is the little fact of an agreement involving the termination that operation, as well, where Taiwan was allowed to be called a part of China, but with China agreeing to peaceful conduct with Taiwan, which China is now infringing, at least in threatening actions.
@@MrJdsenior You seem to have only mentioned the result, not the reason. The reason is that under the instruction of the United States, Taiwan wants to be independent, and China will of course take threatening actions. Just like Scotland wants to be independent, do you think England will not care?
@@MrJdsenior 是事实上 所有的根源在于，你们持续了几个世纪的殖民者心态。你们以为你们随心所欲的制造新的国家 新的民族，随意划分其他国家的边界。随意干涉其他国家的内政。然后还虚伪的把自己描述成秩序维护者。把自己放在一个道德制高点。别这么虚伪好吗 这一切都是自私自利的地缘政治利益而已。中国大陆台湾 北朝鲜/南朝鲜 北越 /南越。这些都是你们认为制造的国家分裂。
@ MrJdsenior Taiwan wants independence against the rules and you seem to think everything should be compliant.😅
Im just here to read all these self proclaimed “experts” on Taiwan. And again, RUclipsrs don’t disappoint. 🍿🤣
90% chicom trolls by volume
I must be expert to express opinion? What criteria I must fulfill to be one and be worthy to speak my mind?
@@kopek3105 No one on RUclips asked for opinions on this video did they? So no one cares about you expressing your opinions to a question no one asked.
how dare are chinese to be disappointed while being surrounded by us occupied countries 😡😡
Excellent documentary..as always DW does a great job😊
Yeah, a good dog, right?
As Peter Zeihan says, America doesn’t really care that much about Taiwan’s politics, what America cares about is restricting China to the first island chain, without Taiwan, China has clear access to the Pacific.
I expect Peter said a lot more than that, but that is certainly a part of it. There are just a few other economic considerations, as well.
完全正确
@@tarkshans , yes, are you Taiwanese ?
Considering America is comprised of 335 million people, it seems overly simplistic to say they don't care about Taiwan's politics. Naturally, some Americans would care about more about Taiwan's independence for ethical reasons, others for financial reasons, and some may have other reasons. They aren't a monolith, and Peter Zeihan isn't right about everything he says.
@@user-ds7up1fi2y , ok, let’s be simplistic- the State Department doesn’t care that much.
Can we really say "The majority of Taiwanese want to maintain the status quo"? I think what they really want is independence, but they cannot say it due to China's threats.
Can it really be said that "most Chinese do not want to reunify with Taiwan"? I think what they really want is reunification, but they don't do it because of the threat from the United States
Lol....People are so dishonest or deluded. Taiwan to China isn't about land expansion or semiconductors. They'll lead the world in that in a decade. You may not agree with their take, but to them it's a matter of historical justice. It's not a geopolitical card to play.
Isn't China reunifying Taiwan to it, much more analogous to the unification of Germany?
It could end up that way. But German reunification happened only because the citizenry of both parts were for it. That is not the case with Taiwan, that desire has consistently failed at the ballot box. I think the analogy that better fits your argument in that the Falklands are part of Argentina. But the people actually LIVING there were never for that, so after Argentina invaded 40 years ago, the UK declared war and took it back, on behalf of the territory it had declared it would protect. If your argument is not that reunification should be based on citizen wishes but historical precedent, then were do we stop? Should Sweden or Russia reabsorb Finland, should France demand Germany and Spain in order to recreate the Frakish empire, or should England get the entire western half of France to recreate the Angevin empire, should Italy lay claim to the entire Mediterranean coastline & much more to reestablish the Roman Empire - which existed for half a millennium?
你支持公民意愿的时候，有没有考虑过当一个地区被占领70年，被某个其它大国支持的分离主义教育的新一代人的影响，那么假设你的国家某个地区被一个强国占领，最终在七十年后要求独立，你也支持吗？我们小学就学过法国作家都德的《最后一课》并感同身受了解那种感觉，可能对此你没有想法，但不代表未来不会。@@MManv84
or Ukraine trying to hold on to the Donbas.
if offending Taiwan origins from the civil war between CPC and KMT and is just a home affair for Chinese people. What does it have to do with US? Didn't Chinese people have the right and the power to solve their own problems?
因為美國希望：在台灣重演一場俄烏戰爭，讓中國陷入蕭條。台灣幻想：中國和美國會為了台灣打上一場世界大戰，中國大陸希望：統一國家同時解除掉美國對中國的軍事封鎖，所以只有中美想的一樣但利益衝突，只有台灣人自以為是亞太的中心和被人搶奪的美麗公主，其實是沒有鞋子的灰姑娘
因為台灣人不希望被獨裁的中國共產黨統治😅加上加入美國的世界貿易體系對雙方有利
@@沒問題啊雙射手 那你讓中美別搶不就好了🤣👉事實就是中共一直想搶台灣，美國一直在保台灣，等哪天他們都不搶了你說的話會更有說服力
美国那是保台湾吗？那是卖武器赚钱，大把大把的dollar；中国早就被美军基地围了一圈，差台湾那一块吗？@@tsenyenlee9437
@@tsenyenlee9437 台独违反中华民国宪法
That CCP muppet Victor Gao is quite the character.
@@KP-xi4bj Taiwan is part of China
他本身就是中共的喉舌
They always are. Not quite as silly in appearance as Lavrov and company, but still, pretty obvious. I've seen a couple of CCP spokesman that are just as ridiculous as Lavrov (lapdog0, though.
Yep, didn't mention the importance of Taiwan's semiconductor industry once.
Taiwan to China, is kind of like Texas to the Federal States. The only difference is when the Confederate States lost the Civil war, they don't have an isolated island to take shelter in. Imagine if the South is not under federal control, and they elect their own president and develop their own "democracy", would that be tolerated by the White House? Absolutely no chance.
I think the question should read, "Why are the USA obsessed with Taiwan".
Need to collect the protection fees and keep an eye on China.
The US is not obsessed with Taiwan. The one who trying to conquer Taiwan is China, not the US lmao
You are basically anti-Asian. Because U r supporting China.
@@seoul_9584No you are anti asia Us colonized asia
@@solongos5500 lol China is the one who trying to invade asian neighbors
Lack of awareness speaks loudly in your comment.... You know Taiwan wants US presence in the region right?
The US's ambiguous position on the ROC is not meant to stop an independent nation (ROC) from declaring independence.
Forcing people to accept your ideas is not democratic and goes against your ideas. You can use your shallow understanding to impose your own understanding on a civilization, nation, or history that you have never deeply understood, and intervene in the local area by force and command, demanding that the local area must obey your ideas. Think about what your own behavior is? Think about how others see you.
You have no idea about what "Taiwan Independence" really means. "ROC is an independent nation" is exactly another example of deliberate ambiguity. Simply put, "Taiwan independence" means the country somehow stop being (the Republic of) China, maybe through constitutional amendment or reform of government. Anyway, it will be qualified as a unilateral change to the status quo which the US has always been strongly opposing.
Why do already independent countries declare independence again?
@@HaleVisse that's why eunuchs keeps telling others they are real men!
You really should learn some international law please.
I am from Taipei, Taiwan, and I would like to say on behalf of my personal voice
How can Taiwan be confident of receiving international support or assistance before it is banned from spending billions of dollars a year on Russian energy purchases? The insistence of a few Taiwanese companies on purchasing and using Russian coal is one of the reasons why the Ukrainian people are suffering.
This has also led to concerns that Taiwan as a whole may not be able to obtain the international status that a democratic country deserves, and may not receive full support.
Clean and cheap coal has Russia’s backing. At this point, just as North Korea sends troops to attack Ukraine, billions of dollars are enough to launch hundreds of missiles, which will certainly destroy Ukrainian residents, important energy facilities, ammunition depots, and the United States, NATO and other international organizations. The burden of defense assistance will increase, and I sincerely hope that Taiwan will immediately stop assisting Russia.
U.S. OFAC should immediately impose secondary sanctions and freeze the company's U.S. bank accounts. EU countries must also be notified to formulate relevant strategies as soon as possible so that the Taiwan government can withdraw its support for Russia as soon as possible.
@@maxcupher mate you need to educate yourself, Ukrainians are corrupt and led by a dictator, further learn the history of the Region. Useless of A instigated the war by funding coup throwing out pro Russian govt that was voted in!!
？why do you have so many requests? Taiwan is just a watch dog of America
130 miles from the Chinese coast line. Thats a national security concern for China.
The title should be. Why is the us so obsessed with Taiwan the Chinese province and having so many military stations surrounding China while the u s a is on the other side of vast ocean?
Cause when we keep to ourself things like Pearl Harbor and 9/11 happen, we tried Isolationism it never worked both world wars. I do not know if your a American but I know the U.S lacks focus on historical stuidies so I do not blame you for not knowing that.
@@EnlistedBombin Israel also commits massacres in the Middle East because it believes it wasn't secure enough in the past. If any historical event can serve as justification for such actions, then China could invade numerous Western countries, including the U.S., because, in the past 200 years, China has suffered invasions and massacres by many nations. How dare you even say such shameless words? learn some history？
@@dexterdexpert8876 Oh you mean the 7 day war when everyone one of Isreals arabic nieghbors tried to invade them and got there butts spanked? Where they took part of Egypt and the U.S. forced Isreal to give it back?
Oh yea CHINA did not exist until the 40s it was a bunch of indpendent states. Infact the reason Tiawan is the way tiwain is, is because the democratic forces all fled there and started there own china.
When the U.S. Supports 1 china policy we mean Tiawan being the one china.
How dare you try to spit a false narrative about history then use other terrible examples.
@@dexterdexpert8876
Americans don't care about Taiwan or China. You are the ones who are obsessed.
Very good, balanced analysis. Also, Victor Gao is insufferable.
One thing is clear: a certain ethnic nation should be solely entitled to deciding their fate, not by their arms being twisted around.
No. If that’s the case, indigenous people in America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Hawaii, Falkland, ir, Scotland want their lands back.
Why?What are the benefits?
What LBJ said. Let THEM fight THEIR own wars.
US agree upon china one policy “taiwan is part of china”. The question is why US so obsessed with taiwan?
That is a lie. The US doesn't agree with China's false claim.
如果中国继续可怜巴巴地制作大家的衬衣内裤和旅行包，美国会继续同意的。问题在于中国很明显不想再当大家的低价劳动力了，那就不得不在台湾，西藏，新疆问题上，跟中国处处作对，我喜欢打牌这个比喻，的确很类似，台湾是大王，西藏新疆是一对A
As per my knowledge, Taiwan produces almost 90% micro chips, semiconductors of the world. If China submerge Taiwan with China, China would have the super power to manipulate anything. Even USA would loses a position to bargain.
GREED !!!
@@强袭型刚坦克 你太看得起低價勞動力國家了。你以爲低勞動力工作別的地方也能做？有人在越南開廠。越南的勞動力比中國還要低得多，但一個中國勞動力能做的事情，在越南要3個人才能做。所以勞動力一點都不便宜。
One nuance that's rarely explained when people mention Taiwan claiming to be the government of China or Taiwan having all these far-flung Qing-era territorial claims (e.g. over Mongolia) is that the Taiwanese government can't _stop_ claiming these things, because if it does, that's tantamount to proclaiming independence. Which might get it invaded. It's an odd situation where a (de facto) country is effectively being threatened to maintain a territorial dispute.
aye, and everytime i hear CCP wumaos saying but but Taiwan claims right over mainland so it is still a civil war! neglecting that they do that because if they amended the constitution to stop saying that the same thing happens
China belongs to its rightful rulers in Taiwan. Stalin communism destroyed China and Chinese culture.
Whatever the name, doesn't matter. Taiwanese voted to remain free and independent. Who in the right mind wants to be governed by China? Who wants to lose their freedom of speech/expression, basic human dignity and Rights? Even Pakistani's, despite being allies China, with all their civil wars, terrorism and economic mess, don't want to immigrate to China, rather prefer to go west. Why? Basic human freedom. West should protect Taiwan.
@@GoGreen99962如果我们真的不自由，那么我现在应该被抓起来了，但事实上什么都没有发生
@@merrymachiavelli2041 Taiwanese President already declared independence and China made a hue and cry and settled down
Taiwan has been an inalienable part of China since ancient times, and the US is stretching too far
He calls an island chain outdated when the whole Chinese military expanding and upgrading their naval capabilities?
what is US doing there...sick of this country
Semiconductors
It's a sad reality that whenever any country discusses Taiwan, the thoughts and opinions of the Taiwanese people are always secondary. As people born in Taiwan, we are not allowed to join China or formally declare the establishment of a country called 'Taiwan.' Instead, we are forced to maintain the status quo. We watch as other countries celebrate their national days or play their national anthems at sporting events, while Taiwanese people can only play the flag anthem of the Kuomintang. Taiwan doesn't even have its own national anthem. The Taiwanese people lack a sense of national identity, and it is disheartening to think about it, yet we are powerless to change it. People from other countries can never truly understand the helplessness that the Taiwanese feel.🥲
但是台湾的经济很好，比大陆好，护照也免签很多国家，说实话有时候挺羡慕你们的。政治上的事，和我们普通人又有什么关系🙃
11:18 including us,They dont recognize Taiwan as a independent country😅😅😅
国家认同 中华民国 但是去中国化 本土认同 处了人文 没有历史 🤗 语言认同 恩 闽南语改名叫台语
@@潇流风 Because Taiwan wants an option to claim that they are the true china, but if they declare independence then this true china claim will weaken.
When you say "powerless" to change it, what you really mean is, you want it but you don't want to pay a price. I know it is hard to admit, but it seems communist party is more determined than Taiwan public in controlling Taiwan's future. I am not saying communist party is right, I am just claiming a fact.
How about promoting democracies in the Gulf countries? How about stoping Modi of India from killing minorities? We can go on and on about US duplicity and brutality towards the rest of the world. Henry Kissinger said ‘ its dangerous to be an enemy of the US but its detrimental/disastrous to be its ally’ Japan/Phillippines and even Australia will learn that over the next couple of decades.
The fact that Taiwan is a democracy now does NOT give the US to station troops or to support what amounts to a illegal dissident regime on Chinese soil. And this emphasis on Taiwanese democracy by the US smacks of hypocrisy, given that for most of China's history, Taiwan was a military dictatorship. What then, was the reason for supporting Taiwan? It's quite clear that the US presence in the Taiwan Strait has zero to do with democracy and more to do with containment. The US does not have a legal right to be in Taiwan, just as Russia has no legal right to be in Crimea or Eastern Ukraine.
What the Palestine people want is what the world should support. Sorry my mistake, change Palestine to Taiwan here.
The whole world should support what the Native American want and return America and Australia to the Native American.
@@chia-haokuo6025 You can't return Australia to Native Americans
When the US has their Chip factories up and running they will drop Taiwan like an old girlfriend.
You got that right. I'd like to believe that the US will remain committed to Taiwan due to democracy, etc. But a more cynical examination points to the idea that once the US feels confident that domestic chip manufacturing meets the need, defense of Taiwan may become a luxury we say we can't afford.
DW is my favorite TV station , and when I check in at CITI State Hotel, I can watch them .
TSMC isnt as big of a reason to take Taiwan, no matter how dominant the company is. Technological secrets can flow, engineers can move, machines can be destroyed.
The main reason would be a leader's desire to be credited with the success of taking Taiwan. So that's the only real reason a status quo would be broken imo.
The only reason is that Taiwan's leaders are pursuing independence and are supported by the United States.
@@fanghe-z1j not really. We really just want to be left alone.
Not just one leader's desire, it is the desire of Chinese whole. Taiwan problem is the last relic of our Century of Humiliation.
2024-8-14 TSMC’s U$. factory has yet to produce a single chip.
Cumulative investment in 4 years reached US$65 billion.
Bro you really think moving engineers from Taiwan to US would solve the semiconductor bottleneck you'd create?
You're clueless beyond compare.
Great video, neutral and objective. So we see that America's hands are way too long, even stretch across the Pacific to disgust Chinese.😅
The disruption of China is the historical problem of Chinese civil war, and i don't think the USA have any excuse to intervene it.😢
Wu Mao out in force these days.
@@FactCheckerGuy found the CIA bot
Go lecture Israel
@@FactCheckerGuy bumao caught with your 👖 down
China has the right to claim it's own territories like Taiwan and secure it from foreign countries (like the USA). Why is the US meddling in China's domestic affairs? How would the US gov react if Russia tries to meddle and free Alaska from the US? It wouldn't be right would it.
I am Taiwanese.
I don’t know which country you are from, but I want to ask you a question.
If North Korea told you that it wanted to protect you from American aggression and forced you to live a North Korean lifestyle
Do you want to ?
The communist Chinese government never ruled Taiwan. How does it make it legal for it to claim Taiwan is its own territory? Look up the history before commenting.
@@fatcat-rr9oe Then tell me how the life in China is so much different than in Taiwan so that you compare it with North Korea? 😂 Just curious
Chinese territory? then why you Chinese need to apply a visa to enter Taiwan? What a joke!
@@fatcat-rr9oe It sounds like there is some difference between the lifestyles of Taiwan and China. China has so many ethnic minorities and we respect everyone's lifestyle.
Having been to both - comparing Mainland China to Taiwan - is like comparing Switzerland to Rwanda.
I think China should be obsessed with Hawaii, Alaska, Texas, and California. If China also supports their independence and sells them weapons, how should the United States respond?
DW: why do you always talk about possible reunification of North and South Korea. two countries that separated about the same time mainland china and Taiwan did
Because it is impossible for North Korea and South Korea to unify, and the Chinese navy has expanded nearly fivefold in just a decade, the Communist Party is very confident in unifying Taiwan and expelling the military forces of the United States in the Western Pacific.
If North and South Korea unify, the resulting state would fall in western sphere of control (US approves). If china and taiwan unify, the result would be US losing influence in Taiwan
4:40 Looking at this map, Are these countries truly independent?
Look at the distance between France and the UK, surely they should be one country?? Yeah we tried that but after many hundreds of years of wars we stopped trying to take over each others countries.
Following defeat in the First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895), the Qing government signs the Treaty of Shimonoseki, by which it cedes sovereignty over Taiwan to Japan, which rules the island until 1945.
The ROC was established by Dr. Sun Yet-Sen in 1911 and was on e of the allies of US during WWII.
By contrast, while PRC was established in October 1, 1949 by Mao and is an adversary of US.
the communist were fighting side by side, in WW2, and the reason they won right after WW2, was the nationalist was trying to save their own butts and sold supplies to Japan . US stopped supplying the nationalist, because of the corruption they saw, and the Communist took advantage. The peasants saw the betrayal by the nationalist , and it became a major recruitment for the Communist.
China should establish it's military presence around Guam, Hawaii, Puerto Rico. Maybe China should liberate these territories from the US and gain it's independence and democracy.
ask the Germans the unification of West Germany and East Germany.
両国が欲しいもの 🍁。
美国想用台湾当做跳板加强对亚太的统治
From my observation as a Taiwanese, the People's Republic of China sends military planes and warships to Taiwan every day, and then keeps saying that it wants peace, and even that "both sides of the Taiwan Strait are one family," which is completely contradictory. Taiwan has never taken the initiative to undermine stability on both sides of the Taiwan Strait. It is the People's Republic of China that continues to intimidate Taiwan with civil and military attacks.
They are using the tactic of fear and intimidation. Their peace is the peaceful surrender of authority to them like HK.
And why DPP's Lie Cheater can't hold the sea center line, and barks like a chihuahua?
Your so-called leaders are clearly undermining cross-strait peace, don't play dumb and change the focus,it is rediculous
And why do you think the PRC does this? Nothing to do with the US personnel and military equipment that exist there, I guess.
@@ThorNado24 first leaves Hawaii California Texas then talk
This is China's internal affair, please leave it to the Chinese people to handle.
Prove it. I bet you cannot. lol
The fact is that there are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China.
Why the US is so obsessed with China should be the title
America: keeps our friends close and our enemies closer.
Which china? Taiwan's official name is also China, according to their own constitution LOL
Because it's an EVIL regime. Just look at how they treat their own people. You want that regime to have the opportunity to be the dominant power in the world? Imagine your own life under such rule.
The US is in charge of this planet
The U.S. defends the weak from getting bullied.
More you watch the video more you realise USA is the villian.
The more you read the comments, the more Chinese bot accounts you encounter.
It isn't. It's protecting neighboring country as China rapidly grows it's military for no reason.
The US, since the 60's and 70's has been aiding China with economic policies even providing manufacturing that has made it wealthy. Now they want to be in charge and bully neighbors, including taking territory. It doesn't work that way.
This like asking, why USA is so obsessed with Maine
Not at all. Maine was one of the 13 colonies of the US and formed a union against Great Britain. Taiwan has never organized with China, and as only ever been colonized and occupied by both China and European's in it's history against the will of it's people.
The most intriguing conflict ever waged is absent from this narrative.
Remember when the Portuguese and Spanish had bases aroud the world, around Japan ?? I mean, they all were just protecting the poor little countries
No, they were acting in self-interest to colonize. The United States and it's allies defeated Japan in a World War 2 and has managed the ergion to avoid future aggression. Russia and China has being communist states, started to invade and conquer other nations. The US therefore needed to remain in the pacific to stifle that aggression to prevent repeating another world war. Despite that, the US worked with China for 50 years to help provide economic aid and grow manufacturing in China and the region. China's economy grew big enough to now they felt the need to have hegemony in the region and say of all things in Asia and the pacific. It doesn't work that way.
As Nações Unidas, incluindo os EUA e toda OTAN, reconhecem uma só China.
Ora, é desonesto falar que a China queira exercer um controle sobre um território milenarmente chinez.
Ideologias à parte, o mundo ficaria mais em paz se não houvesse tanto intervencionismo de caráter unilateral e imperialista.
O futuro está na multipolaridade, e as diretrizes acordadas pelos países dos BRICS+ constituem o melhor exemplo.
Highly doubt it…
W???? Why US is so obsessed with Taiwan ????
Semiconductors
Thank God for the U.S. God bless America!
Help Us😢😢😢: Taiwan’s Democracy is Under Threat
Taiwan is in crisis. What was once a proud democracy is now slipping into authoritarianism as political forces take control of our judiciary. The recent case of Ko Wen-je highlights this alarming trend. Initially released by one judge due to lack of evidence, Ko was detained just days later by another judge with strong political ties-despite no proof of wrongdoing. This is not justice; this is political persecution.
Ko has endured 70 hours of interrogation without evidence, while details of his case were leaked to the media to shape public opinion before any trial. This manipulation of the judiciary is a dangerous sign that Taiwan’s democracy is being dismantled.
We ask for your help. Today it is Ko, tomorrow it could be anyone who opposes the ruling power. If the judiciary becomes a tool for political oppression, Taiwan’s freedom will be lost. We need the international community to stand with us, to protect justice, and to prevent this slide into dictatorship.
Please, help us before it’s too late.
在判決還沒出來前都是無罪推定呀⋯
他只是嫌疑人
不需要向全世界尋幫助說的好像已經定罪了😅
@@freya1337 The whole world knows that only with clear evidence of corruption can someone be convicted. But in Taiwan, we are witnessing the distortion of the justice system into a tool of oppression. Taiwan's prosecutors have weaponized the unique "profit from official misconduct" charge, and without any evidence of bribery, they have unjustly imprisoned Mayor Ko Wen-je in Tucheng, subjecting him to judicial torture. This is not justice-it is pure political persecution.
This is not just about Mayor Ko's fate, but about the fate of freedom and justice in Taiwan. When the rule of law is twisted, and justice is abused, every one of us becomes the next potential victim.
I call upon the world to lend a helping hand. Taiwan needs your support to resist this injustice. We cannot allow this judicial tyranny to succeed. We cannot let authoritarian forces crush our future. This is a fight for freedom and dignity, and we need the international community to stand with us to defend real justice and save Taiwan's democracy!
@@freya1337 全世界都明白，只有貪污確鑿才能定罪。然而，在台灣，我們看到的是司法系統被扭曲成了壓迫的工具。台灣的檢調竟利用這片土地上獨有的「圖利罪」，在毫無收賄證據的情況下，將柯文哲市長強行關押，甚至施以司法折磨。這不是正義，而是赤裸裸的政治鎮壓。
台灣，這片我們深愛的土地，正面臨著嚴峻的挑戰。全世界都知道，只有在確鑿的證據下才能對貪污定罪，但今天，柯文哲市長在毫無收賄證據的情況下，因「圖利罪」被關押在土城，飽受司法的折磨。
腐敗的政府為了維持其政權，用政治力量收押柯市長，這不僅是對個人的打壓，更是對整個台灣正義的侮辱。我們不能沉默。當司法被用來壓迫異己，當正義的聲音被封殺，我們每一個人的自由都岌岌可危。
Sounds just like the US.
As a Taiwanese, I'd like to point out that what the video says in 10:15 is incorrect, the allies did not FORCE Japan to give Taiwan to China.
Giving back Taiwan was once considered but was interrupted because the Allies feared the ROC would lose the civil war and Taiwan would be controlled by the Communists. It turned out the ROC loss indeed. That is why according to the Treaty of San Francisco, Taiwan was only renounced but not transferred and thus our status has been "undetermined". Basically, the Allies, especially the US, wanted Taiwan to be returned to China IF ONLY the ROC represented China. China (the PRC) clearly chooses to misunderstand that.
On the other hand, the ROC also chooses to misunderstand that. Even though the ROC does not represent China anymore, it still claims Taiwan to be part of their territory. According to United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1514, all peoples have the right to self-determination, and I hope someday both the PRC and the ROC will leave us alone.
Hope this explains well.
PS. People often think the US wants to control everything, but I'm really grateful for what they did for Taiwan. Also, as a Taiwanese, I believe I know China much better than other countries do, and they are just as... ummm, unpleasant, as the news portraits.
the Allies feared the ROC would lose the civil war does not justify that taiwan is not part of China. And as you mentioned UN 1514, all people have the right to self-determination, that means Chinese people could choose which force to govern the whole China which including Taiwan. There is no dynasty in Chinese history seperate the whole China with out been reunified later in history. The civil war has not ended yet. That is the status quo.
@@shining1907 Yeah, of course the fear of the ROC losing the civil war itself does not justify that Taiwan is not part of China, the Treaty of San Francisco does :)
@@brendezvous then see the Treaty of Taipei between ROC and Japan. And look at your passport. ROC's territory includes mainland provinces and Taiwan province.
Good point 👌
Have u ever heard of Cairo declaration?
Well, after all, it's our island, Chinese people's island.
No its not yours. Its Taiwanese people's land.
@@seoul_9584 Cry about it
@@seoul_9584 Japan took it from China. Japan returned it to China. Yea, cry about it
@@Ohyeahhahaha Taiwan is its own independent nation
@@kenshin6553 Then cry about it
Our grandfathers used to tell :
Never feed your wife full before 80yrs old, never let China be strong before you die, or else your wife will make your life miserable inside your house, while China will make you rather stay inside that miserable house than joining their wars.
human rights in western understanding rainbow flags all over the world.
The truth is that Taiwan is a part of China,no matter the country is contorled by communists or Guomindang.However,Minjindang want to make Taiwan an independent country.This cannot be concept by communists,but America like it
The truth is there are no internationally treaties, policies or agreements that state Taiwan is part of China
The truth is Taiwan at no point in history was ever a part of PRC...
@@vietnguyen4312yes there are
@@jeremytineyes it was and it is part of China
Liberate Hawaii California Texas then talk
@@JonySmith-bb4gx The Manchurian Qing government (not Chinese) controlled less than 20% of Formosa. The first country to conquer Taiwan was Japan.
There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies, agreements or UN resolutions that declare that Taiwan is part of China
Asia 🤝 🇺🇸
Imagine China is the US, Taiwan is Cuba, someone wants to not only put mussels, but put military all around you, then maybe Americans could connect the dots.
Taiwan is not Cuba.
It's Hawaii.
Imagine you"re a russian bot copy from others russians bots the same message and get only one like....
So, you're saying that the US should take Cuba by force? Genius.
@@jamesbarbosa8714 It is metaphor of Geopolitics, it is about the location if understand the China and Taiwan situation correctly. But you have to admit that Cuba is living under the pressure of U.S.' power.
@@jamesbarbosa8714 Taiwan is Hawaii
umm… taiwan was always china’s island
no, it wasnt before the 1400s.
@@stevenlouie6922 if you where chinese you would say TaiWan is apart of china too
China, such a country with double standards from others’ points of view!😊 I am a Korean.
After all, that's a big country!
I do know that Korea is obsessed with applying world heritage.😊
Taiwan is part of China even though china needs to adopt civil democratic system so Taiwan can join it peacefully
It's not part of China. Japan never ceded the island to the PRC.
Taiwan is just a province of China, just like Hawaii is a state of America. The unification of country is more important than the social system in view of most of Chinese people.
台灣是民主國家，中國不是！！台灣人有權利決定自己未來，而不是中國獨裁政府來決定
苍白无力的抗议。你自己决定不了，要靠美国，而美国并不在乎你的利益，把你往火坑里拉你都不知道。而且你并不能代表台湾大多数人，你这是纳粹行为。
its Ok we only need island whatever clean the island or not.😂
那我作为一个福建人得第一个牺牲安全感给你们未来跟民主呗，我们算什么呢？不可能独立的啊
粘板上的鱼而不自知，无论是清蒸还是红烧又或者放生曳尾于涂，都在祖国一念之间。
我们只需要岛，不需要人。
America doesn’t officially recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state, and chose China to be the official representative in 79.
"Why is US so obssed with Tawian?"
Fixed it for you
The US is not obsessed with Taiwan. the one who trying to conquer Taiwan is China, not the US.
Because Taiwan is a loose cannon. If they get too trigger happy with independence, it'll be war. If PRC makes a move, it'll be war. Either way, the US (and the world at large) will get dragged into a nasty war whether they like it or not. Funny enough, in a twisted way, the most peaceful solution to this problem is the status quo, which is what US has been pursuing for the last few decades. The US is not obsessed WITH Taiwan; they are obsessed with the ramifications of anything happening to Taiwan.
Any more questions?
I've never heard any Americans talking about Taiwan. It never comes up.
@@telescopicS627 only the US media my friend. No one in China talks about the United States or Taiwan, not even their media
@@davadh And yet here you are talking about it...
It’s not about what system is adopted in Taiwan Taiwan is a part and province of China China has the absolute right to exercise its sovereignty over Taiwan
says who by a daylight pirate?
It doesn't
Taiwan is part of china..
Taiwanese people speaks mandarin.
Why are we even debating.
What is the us doing 7k miles from home.
I sympathize with your perspective, the US would never allow for the secession of any states. We fought a war to keep the South. But geopolitics doesn't revolve around right or wrong.
If Hawaii seceded from the Union, China would also try to prevent the US from reclaiming it. At the end of the day, geopolitics is just about power. Keeping Taiwan separate means it's harder for China to project power into the pacific.
Why can't the USA just mind its own business?
The CCP have no sovereignty of Taiwan so perhaps it is they who should keep their noses out.
@@ResearchFirst-z7j Let me explained this to you since you are confused. Politics aside, you can't pretend that Taiwanese people aren't Chinese, our blood bond is undeniable. I'll even bet that your own grandparents are from the mainland, and you probably have uncles and cousins or whatnot in the mainland right now) and you can't pretend that Taiwan wasn't a part of a civilization that's called China for centuries before the recent separation. We are one same family in terms of historical continuity and cultural and lingual unity. You can't be so delusional to not know that. OK. now, political-wise, very simple, it is a civil war that has caused this peculiar situation of Taiwan, and the war was between CCP and KMT. So, CCP, as the winning party, indeed has a say in the matter of Taiwan, and that war deserves an ending. P.S. Do not let western media fool you to hate China.
@@zipei1673 I think it is you that is confused. Firstly: There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies, agreements or UN resolutions that declare that Taiwan is part of China. The only legal way that the CCP can unify with Taiwan is via an official written treaty.
In terms of race, Singapore is 75% pure Chinese, 14% of Thailand's population is pure Chinese & there are 8 million pure Chinese living in Malasia. So what is your point??
Taiwan is a mixed race in fact 10% of their population is of Japanese heritage. On top of this there are millions of mixed Aboriginals (Tsai Ing-wen is of mixed race), Dutch and Portuguese descendants. The Taiwanese in fact fought against China in Nanjing. So what is your point?????
When ROC escapees fled to the still officially Japanese island in 1949, they were about 15% of the population. Therefore 85% of the people of Taiwan were not even at war with the CCP. So what is your point?
The civil war was never over Taiwan and the island was Japanese territory during the war. So what is your point??
In term of history, CHINA HAS NEVER RULED TAIWAN.
The Qing who were Manchurian and like the Mongols not Chinese, had minimal control of Taiwan. The Qing only managed to rule less than 20% of the island while the aborigines ruled and controlled over 80% of the island. The Qing created a border in 1750 with rocks which was called the Tu Niu Red Line. The Japanese were the first country to colonise Formosa and create roads and infrastructure. So what is your point???
Due to the lack of control, the Qing did not declare Formosa a Province of the Qing until 1895 as the Japanese was encroaching on the island. The island was handed to Japan 10 years later. So what is your point???
Taiwan was not added into the PRC constitution until 1978 when Deng Xiaoping become president. So what is your point??
The war was never over Taiwan and the ROC escaped to the Japanese island of Formosa. There is no delusion it is clear. The point is the PRC has no sovereignty of Taiwan.
^^ I am from Taiwan Province. Most people here in Taiwan Province want to be Chinese rather than "Taiwanese" because this is who we are ^^
Wrong, I am also Taiwanese. Current polls show that less than 10% of Taiwanese consider themselves Chinese.
@@JOE-ew7li我認為台灣是中國人但不是中共人 準確來說是中華人 共產黨也好 國民黨也罷 都是中華人
Then you will have no more political rights under communists. You might be invited tea meeting. 😅
The difficulty of Taiwan to be independent is even if they call for a referendum, it has to be carried on both the main land and on the island. Remember there's only one China, this means people on the main land believe the island is Chinese and people on the island know it's Chinese. All people of China have to vote, and those results won't be accepted by the US as they will surely make China the greatest.
Taiwan is China, the only possible way to bring peace is accept unification. Mainland China is only getting stronger and stronger and nothing the west can do, and by the time China shift to the last option which is force it will be impossible to fight against.
This logic sounds a little weird for me. Does Brexit carry on both the UK and the rest of the EU? Does the Scottish independence referendum carry on both Scotland and the rest of the UK?
@@skyleaker1. EU is a federalist-like union and not a country. Any country can leave without any votes.
2. The 2014 Scottish Referendum DID involve the whole UK.
You just buried yourself.
@@xhaozhao They involved people who lived in Scotland, not all random people.
@@skyleaker Lol. You’re a bit daft.
The whole UK voted for the Scottish Referendum in 2014 not just people that live in Scotland. And said “No” by the way.
So same logic applies to Taiwan since it is a part of China: the whole country needs to vote on a referendum should it go that route of independence.
Right now it is a renegade state.
@@xhaozhao Eligibility to vote
Under the terms of the 2010 Draft Bill, the following people were entitled to vote in the referendum:
British citizens who were resident in Scotland;
Citizens of other Commonwealth countries who were resident in Scotland;
Citizens of other European Union countries who were resident in Scotland;
Members of the House of Lords who were resident in Scotland;
Service/Crown personnel serving in the UK or overseas in the British Armed Forces or with Her Majesty's Government who were registered to vote in Scotland.
I think the idea is clear, Scottish people can make their own mind about their belongs. Not the whole UK.
Always does America brake all treates?
Nope, and we haven't broken this one. If China attacks Taiwan, and even with their actions now, THEY are breaking the treaty. How have we broken it? We never made any treaty that said China could take Taiwan by force, in fact, that is the exact opposite of the treaty.
Because we support the one Taiwan policy, and west Taiwan needs to come under the leadership of the rightful leadership of the country.
@@NotThatGuy-jx7vg where's your country's embassy in Taiwan?