Out of Control: Ukraine's Rogue Militias
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
- In 2014, Ukraine was under siege and the military was unprepared. Desperate, the government urged anyone to get to the front and fight the Russian-backed separatists. As the war drags on, Ukraine claims their military is now in control and the volunteers have all been disbanded. But we tracked down some rogue volunteers still out there fighting, not prepared to hand over their weapons anytime soon.
00:00 Intro
00:57 Head of Ukrainian Defense
04:00 Sneaking in to the Front Lines
10:19 Meeting the Front Line Commander
11:57 Firefight
14:00 Santa Leads the Fight
17:00 Life in Kyiv
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Your narrative you tried to peddle got thrown in your face, ha, vice is a joke
"Watch next how there really was no azov-trops and human shields nor civil-war and how all yhe Hunter Biden rumors are just hoax"
-Miles McInnes from vice"
nazis
Reporter: "Are they just playing war?"
Comment Section: "The reporter is playing journalism."
Jim Boone And now the Israeli Bolsheviks are supplying these NeoNazis their weapons?
Oh well, I thought I could watch this. Vice just makes everything a joke unworthy of watching. I miss the RUclips ability to ban a channel from the suggestions.
@@cpopiandm Funny you said that, I was thinking myself, how liberal jewish senators must feel, sending billions of dollars to Ukraine, to support Neo-Nazis, who murduring civilian women snd children?? You gotta be such a crooked son of a bitch to do that.. Joe Biden fits just right in. On his own element.
are they just out here playing ssssssssoldier 6:51
Yeah playing war is a bad way to say it . I think the only ones doing that are the one's that are at the top calling shots in the states
the reporter is like wow my wifes boyfriend had a gun once can i touch it? is it real?
My wife’s boyfriend ;)
LMAOOOO
LMAO as much as I now hate VICE, I love their comment section.
carlos zerpa I was just thinking the same thing. I don’t even know why I’m watching this biased bullshit documentary.
Meanwhile im here in my "man cave" with a stockpile big enough to arm every person featured in this video. lol
Coming from a Ukrainian living on the US east coast, this video sure aged well lol 😂
Diasporoid?
Hi American here - we are fkn EMBARRASSED by this, just want to tell you that
move to west coast i need more UA friends
I was just about to comment that
Like fine milk... lol
@@ColinMor-fj3qcWhy would he move and support the Commies on the West lol?
Idiot: "You got AK's, dogs, tea... What more could you want?"
Soldier: "I want freedom"
They send idiots of reporters to these places
@@dylan4kt565 I was actually thinking about this after seeing the same kind of comment on another video. It would seem in most cases, yeah these young people are greenhorns but they come away with a totally different perspective on life. Let's face it, we can't all be hard as fuck like O.G. Smoke here (who's closest thing to smoke was probably the cigarettes he stole from his uncle)
O.G. Smoke I mean AK’s, dogs, and tea are pretty cool.
I don't like these reporter the way he render a question...
Alcohol
Government: planes, tanks, bombs
Militia: circle
Nobody:
@ryan lu :
Nothing can defeat circle
@@spike05 A square can defeat a circle
It has to be a circle. If it's an oval then it won't save you from seabear.
Gary LOL
This has aged well
I was thinking the same thing. “Are they just playing army?”
Mate it's an absolute joke. Yet they have now been armed and supported by NATO.... We all know what the US would do if Russia armed Cuba the way NATO armed Ukraine....
Because now it's obvious that this is a bogus story and the actual ruscist nazis that fed Vice this "edgy material" is literally announcing their neonazi goals for annihilation of Ukraine as a country. This is when reality trumps trash reporting, but idiot westerners still want the bullshit story, even as Putin clearly states neonazi goals POINT-BY-POINT.
Funny how 4 years ago this video talks about Neo-Nazi’s in the Ukraine militias but when Putin mentions he is fighting the Nazi’s all the sudden he is wrong?
because the west has always collaborated with nazis in Ukraine against the soviet union and now Russia.
Not really. Both sides in the Donbas conflict no doubt had far right or fascist elements. Putin himself is a fascist. Pot meet kettle.
lol its funny how ukraine was notorious for far right militias and neo nazis and now suddenly they're a bastion of democracy and freedom. truly is hilarious
do you believe Putin cares about Israel?
When did Vice say Putin was wrong about far right groups in Ukraine?
Funny how most of these stories disappeared overnight once the narrative changed.
Agree. A nice video to show to the residents of Kyiv because it seems they forgot how it all started. They seem to be fighting for democracy, but the reality is different
@@annao3798 so true, crazy how brainwashed these people have become
It's because vice was sold between this video and the breakout of full on conventional warfare with Russia
@@annao3798when they say they're an anarchist they're referring to anarchism, not anarchy
Anarchism is direct democracy
No, you're just uneducated and can't apply simple logic to scenarios. How could Ukraine control militia groups near the front when they didn't even have an army? Do you like to apply the same logic to Wagner leader who has SS tattoos or do you only ATTEMPT to engage your brain when it comes to pro Russian propaganda? @@annao3798
This guy has no respect for the situation at hand.
Vice can now be considered yet another propaganda tool bought off by Putin. Are we all to believe this is a civil war between Ukrainians with no Russian factors to consider? Vice is either ran by morons or pro Russia pro Putin hacks.
@@GodofBigots chill out, the guy was a moron. Simon clearly stated in his interviews that Russia is in in Ukraine through hybrid invasion
Brent For fuckng real
GodofBigots there’s a vice doc where they expose the separatists
This was painful to watch. How many times did this clown have to reiterate how dangerous it was or how subversive they had to be? Pure exploitative bullshit. That kid has no clue what's going on in that place.
"50,000 people used to live here, now it's a ghost town."
exactly what i thought when i seen this lol
"Our so-called leaders prestituted us to the west"
Best mission of COD.
Just another day at the Office.
Its not the same place in Ukraine...
I can't believe this has been going on since 2014. I read that there are about 200,000 people who have died due to this conflict. So very sad.
Most died since February 24 2021. I’m thinking it’s closer to 300,000. With 25,000 dead civilians In Mariupol alone.
@@candykane4271 devastating.
@@pencils812 if you look deeper you’ll discover some very disturbing facts. That show quite a different narrative. Than what you see in the news today.
@@thomaskeenan4601 yeah this has been cooking since the late ‘90’s/early 2000’s with extremist banderist groups in west Ukraine attacking and destroying Russian culture centers and a questionable Ukrainian government oppressing ethnic Russians in Donbas.
@@pencils812 Ukrainian military killed a LOT of women and children in Donbas since 2014
Wow the title aged well
pure bollocks 4 years ago, pure bollocks now
@@dimashevchenkoua Seethe more NATO bot. Ukraine are war criminals and you know it.
@@johndave117 rusni pyzda, cope harder
@@dimashevchenkoua NATO shill seething lol
cope and rope 🐷 pig
@@dimashevchenkoua how? We know about the genocide against ethnic Russians. We know that this far-right ideology is the reason for it.
What is wrong with that journalists. He sounds like he is at Disneyland.
I bet they sent him there hoping he'd get shot.
No
You do realize he has to do his best to make sure this is quality content right? He isn't a soldier.
@@dazurathefirst8456 I have never seen a war time journalist take a tone like this though.
@@dazurathefirst8456 The guy can't even keep his helmet on. Let alone ask them interesting questions.
“It’s like an apocalyptic movie set.” No its a war zone you child.
@@ZalmanFarisiUNAS a reporter shouldn't report on things they know nothing about.... made my point for me
Seriously. Who tf says that?
Naive is the title of the video. In translation a lot of people don't see you saying in the title rouge militias out of government or military control. They see you saying the militias are out of control insane and dumb.It's offencive. Wonder why you have a fear of ever visiting the same place after making a doco?
Lol he still has more balls than most of you.
Yup. This "journalist" lives in his own little fantasy land.
Is this considered Russian Propaganda now?
Shoo you dog, you are messing up the narrative!
Nobody is hiding there has been a problem in Ukraine with these bunch of extremists who were clearly a minority (check the elections results and see the irrelevant percentages they got at national UA elections). It’s not a good reason for invading that country, otherwise we should invade Russia because they have militias like Wagner and Kadirov guys who were and are often in conflict with official Russian army.
nationalist =/= nazi. they elected a jewish president after all.
It’s hard to ask a soldier what they plan to do when it’s over when they’ve already resigned themselves to dying
i miss simon ostrovsky covering the ukranian story. he was understanding and respectful.
i really dont like this guy. hes got no idea about the gravity of they way life is there.
his questions and demeanor is very disrespectful and pissed me off
acting like a child asking dumb questions. 'i wanna see action! is there real fighting here?' like a damn tourist
smdh
thepluraloftiger yeah if I don’t see a fire fight I’m gonna stamp my feet
@@andwhy1245 right? what a punk
Much agreed. The other guy was a little weird, but loads better than this jackwagon
This watches like Russian propoganda done in English. Its crazy when you compare it to the old Simon Ostrovsky stuff.
Simon stopped covering the separatist side because they kidnapped him for asking questions. They released him days later but imagine how scary that must have been. Simon is a very good journalist.
"I need freedom" damn dude, that's kinda sad.
soon to happen in the USA
John Hopley we are losing freedom daily from both dems and repubs.
@@vaughnvail5279 Yeah it's not about "left and right", (For example, Trump has passed more anti-gun laws than Obama) it's hysterical social media blowing everything out of proportion and the fanatic zealots who believe them vs people with common sense.
@Brandon That's what you make Molotov then throw it into the tanks engine
@Brandon That's why you have a counter sniper, believe it or not if stuff goes down here in the USA there will be effective armed militias made up of citizens
This aged well
Seeing this now makes me wonder how many of the people interviewed in the video are still alive.
Santa is alive, and defend Donetsk Oblast now
@@user-ds2jd6jr2z hard to believe as video says it’s an orphanage and how hard can that be to find. Dumb.
Everyone is saying how this reporter isn't good, guys Vice needed someone anyone dumb enough to go out there lol
We'll that explains it
They found the village idiot for sure!
Its Vice News, that place is packed with idiots
I miss Shane
Id do it go out hang out with the Ukraine get their voices heard get footage go home
This dude has to be my least favorite vice reporter...
Elias I. So everyone keeps saying
He is alright, but simon is the better.
“I want to see actual fighting” and “You have AKs, tea, dogs, what more do you need”
guess you haven't met Erica Matson. Bunch of twats
Elijah Hong I believe you and why does this have 200 likes lol
“I heard you have a sniper rifle in your office, you must be very powerful”
1/4 of Americans: “well sh*t I got 10 sniper rifles on my wall and ain’t even got power over my kids”
Today on "this didn't age well" for vice
atleast they didnt tell the truth they being far right/naz's lol
This conflict is not even covered any more. Hats off to Vice for covering this.
Lol its crazy no bias in this . unlike the sjw bull
I wish they would be a fucked ice for the working normal person
A Russian And His Bike, this is not a swastika!.
lot of em are ex soviet citizens so why not have a right wing values
@A Russian And His Bike
A good fortune swastika. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Probably the most naive reporter ever, like a child.
@Naman Dutt I guess Ucrania isn't breaking his agreements with the EU about the use of paramilitar militias in the front and the nazis Svodova don't show up at will all over Ukraine. Just propaganda, sure.
Honestly this video sounds a bit as Russian propaganda, and the reporter's commentary isn't much assuring either
@@tomaszzalewski4541 Yep, sure. Reality is russian propaganda too.
Probably sleeps with a mask on
Dude is honestly probably new and wasn't fully expecting what he got into.
This video used to show a swastika inside the hat of the commander they were talking to. I'm curious as to why you edited it out recently?
you can still see a swazi 20 sec into the clip
@J-Nish there used to be a scene where they filmed the inside of the commanders hat and a swazi was inside it.
ofcourse, it does not fit the narrative, they will probably remove the video in the future! they are the scourge of the earth.
the way vice news checks which way the wind is blowing and then goes with is obvious
“What do you like about the war?” Bruh that’s gotta be the dumbest question I’ve ever heard.
He pissed me off the whole time.
Such a naiv prick.
@@SteamCheese1 that's the Left for ya
You'd be surprised. A LOT of them are going to miss the adrenaline rush after all of the long waits, when its over... Its UGLY, but in a certain way, its the most ALIVE you ever where. EVERYTHING after that is boring. Its CRAZY to think that way. But its what happens to many..
@@TheJimprez it's sad. There is so much to experience in life, but war has a way of giving you tunnel vision focus.
@@betacuck3145 I swear to god, I see someone bring up “the left” or “liberals” in the comments of nearly every RUclips video I’ve seen. Liberal Derangement Syndrome
Somebody needs to tell the "reporter"he wasn't in a war,he hid in a basement and heard one.
and where were you in your life outside of your basement?
lets see you being a hero when a war is raging on over your parents basement
For years a lot of so-called war correspondents have filed their reports from the safety of a hotel far, far away from the fighting. They get their script from the UN or the military involved in local fight.
You want him to stand on the roof and slap the shells back with a tennis-racket or something? His job is to report on what he sees. Of course he's in the fucking basement when the shells start landing and the bullets start flying. Don't be stupid. At least they had the balls to go to the front..
Oh, there he is, Captain Bruce Clark of RUclips Special Operations Group.
It’s eerie to listen the reporter to express the main concern back then „what are these nationalist going to do when the war is over?“ 4 years fast tracked to now and the war has just begun. All those guys from the reportage are either buried in Mariupol or generals of the Ukrainian territorial defense.
Interesting to see how the narrative changes over time.
these are the very people you owe you freedoms and liberties to. ukrainian militias are wall defending europe from russian aggression.
@@QWERTY-gp8fd😂😂😂😂😂🤡
@@QWERTY-gp8fdIsn't that what Nazi germany said too?
today nazis are the russians. u dont understand. i lost my family when russia occupied gori. @@thivjan3022
This "Journalist" is beyond terrible
All vice journalist are horrible
@@dbt7624 except isobel yeung
the worst
Nile Araneta I’ve never seen her so I don’t know
@@dbt7624 see Philippines vice news marawi.There are many more with here, but that's on top of my head.
At first I wondered why this crazy reporter was trying so hard to get the front lines, but then I saw that he doesn't have a case on his iphone and it all made sense
He's genuinely confused why they won't "Give up their guns to the government." That says it all
what does that mean
@ctfcnig The metaphor of him not having a case on his phone is like saying he doesnt care if it breaks it or not. just like how he is so eager to get in the front lines.
The government won't be bad if it fears it's people
@TheChosen Wand Assad never did that...u ever hear of the zionist plan..u wont find FACTS on any main stream source like vice/cnn/fox...
The journalist is making my butthole cringe. "I heard you have a sniper rifle in your office?" "Did you ever think you would be in a place like this, fighting..... in a war?" "What do you like about the war?" 🤣
It was pretty clear the journalist was a liberal cuck . He was even shocked these men wouldn't join a national military riddled with corruption or give their guns up to a government that let invading forces take there homeland
Hate the game don't hate on the player 🤣🤣
He’s a fool.
The theme I see from these angry men is exceptionally valuable to a country under siege. It is also terrifying to a country at peace.
"country at peace" Wow how easily the 🐑🐑🐑🐑 are led!
Ever wondered why the seperatist were fighting /defending , they were defending Russian ethnics,citizens of Ukraine that were being ethnic cleansed by these nationalist's and nazi's .
They started in Odessa made a pitiful attempt at Crimea and turned their attention to the Donbass and Luhansk regions.
Now they are being defeated throughout their whole nation !
Well Said.
Then you have know clue what has been going on since 2014 in the DPR/LPR
Why do they call you thunder?
“You can hear me but you can’t see me”
Ok that was the best on the spot response I’ve heard
PJ Mo it wasnt on the spot kiddo these guys get their nicknames from their peers for real life he doesn't wake up in the morning and think oh gunner or stunner or lil gangsta or rick or etc.. it sounds dope thats gonna be my nickname lol a real nickname is given to u u dont get to pick it,this is just a lil FYI to u from a real one so soak this game up kiddo
Mustapha Rashiduddin you can see lighting not thunder
Mustapha Rashiduddin ....... If you can fucking see thunder something is seriously off my dude.
"Are they both willing to die for this cause?" nah they just take sniper and artillery fire every night for fun
The question is if the government would ask them to dissolve would they fight the Ukrainian government as well.
@@asherif3893 good question.
Thats the Slav Nightroutine
How do you do that actually, they're a massive column, it's impossible to destroy sniper nests and artillery hive in 1 night
@@krieger8825 nope just grab a moab
I can hear him talking to some other basic people: "Like... omg, I didn't know I was like so brave until I did that, like... I was literally a warrior over there"
crazy to watch this in the midst of the war going on today...
at 0:48 subtitles are wrong. he said "lets see for how long they will hold", you wrote "we will destroy them". Good "job" Vice.
And the media has the gall to wonder why we don't trust them
Wow
damn they really did that -_- can't trust any fucking media
doesnt surprize me . they are deleting negative comments from older videos. i guess they ll do the same here. especially now that we cant see downvotes. thank you youtube
There were about 10 moments like that
Ukrainian: *Literally at war*
Reporter: Would u say ur willing to die for this ?
Maybe the guy is a researcher on the effects of war on citizen soldiers. The question is always dumb until there's an answer
not everyone's dumb enough to die over politics
@@nnass262
Yes yes, a civil/proxy war in ones own country = simple politics.
@@tomprelitz8067 never said it was "simple " , smartass
@@nnass262 Not all of us would betray not only our own people but all of mankind to save our own skin.
its crazy watching this and seeing all these people, knowing that many of them are either dead or wounded.
Yea, I wonder what has happened to these people. It's all so very sad.
I did see that Oleksandr Turchynov is still alive.
@@pencils812 is that the thunder guy?
@Francisco Carnero I don't remember. I watched this 2 weeks ago. So sad that this is going on. Prayers for peace.
Santa is still alive and fighting
Interesting this video is from four years ago, before all this started... which contextualizes unbiasedly what we're spending hundreds of billions of dollars to defend... I guarantee you these guys will not have made this documentary after the invasion
hundreds of billions? Where did you get that number from?
@@tabby6426 you should do some research.. those guys arent getting it but it's being "sent".
You know that for sure.
@@tabby6426 by the time its over we will have given well over 100 billion...and qe dont evem know who is getting the money
@@user-in3mg1sg1w they have history of unprecedented corruption... why would it be different with the American Santa clause that keeps on giving.
I like how the reporter thinks that people just pretend like they’re soldiers
I like it better how he pretends to be a reporter.
carlos zerpa bruh
In the US its very common for men to "play soldier". They call themselves militias, but all they do is wear camo and carry guns in public, usually in protest of something. They don't fire their weapons and have no experience in war which is why we call them "play soldiers".
He's done too much reporting in america.
Cascadianow I agree that most militias in the US spend the majority of their time making asses of themselves at protests, etc. but I wouldn’t underestimate them. A lot of these guys are heavily armed and a little unstable, probably a bigger threat than most people assume
I bet this journalist has PTSD from being around men with testosterone.
🤣🤣🤣
Ya his panties got wet for sure
😂
@Juan Posada we are, are you're going to 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦 it
@Juan Posada we're gonna kick the biker's asses
Why weren't translations provided for the chanting and flags and signs?
This is kinda crazy, Putin said there were militia's on the East and everyone called him crazy. Then I come across this from 4 YEARS ago? Puts a different perspective out there
Look at the grooming they are doing to kids. Grow up to hate and kill Russians. No wonder Ukrainians are fierce fighters
ruclips.net/video/CpV16BQfbrQ/видео.html
idiot
Brother nothing changes, why do you think there is militias in the east of Ukraine. Because they forecefully took Crimea and armed pro russian miltias. Other than ukrains military taking up arms it caused some minority to become super patriotic and neo-nazis. There isn't some hidding narritive. Russia wants ukraine. Thats it. Russia had legit and arguable points to make against NATO. But all that is out the window when they invaded. Nato didnt invade russia. Russa took it off the negotation tables and made it a war.
yup but they excisted only because someone else invaded
@@korallrev3497 No, they existed right after the Maidan Revolution in 2014, and they've been fighting since 2014. Many of them are neo-Nazis idolizing Stepan Bandera and trying to "cleanse" Ukraine of ethnic Russians.
Just to warn you, the translation is inaccurate. How do I know? It is my native language
What are some of the big translation mistakes?
They ususally do a shit job to translate Russian, Ukrainian, a many other Easter Europe language. Not the first time I saw a comment saying the translationw as innacurate. And also what an asshole the reporter is... Like he knows anything about war, being very disrespectful to some people who are taking care of him/answering his dumb questions/and taking him where he wants.
@@jgespana866 when the covered the serbians they mistranslated it on purpose so when the head serb spoke they said he was there to show them that war is the best option when the serb actually said we are here to show them to resolve this peacefully
Tgat does not surprise me one bit.
Vice are far left protesters descuised as joirnalists...
@@infernoreviews2529 which is ironic because VICE ex-creator is far right gun enthusiast, and left because what he helped make turned into a lefty company
VICE, please go back to your roots and cover more raw stories like this. Actually interesting and incredibly well made. The other route you have gone down is pure and utter garbage
highly agree
agree
Gareth Watson All the past ukraine videos are 10/10
agree
Lucid Nonsense last time i checked alt right weren't snowflakes. We gave that name to libtards because they cry over everything and are as fragile as such.
We are giving these guys our most advanced weapons today.
This aged like fine wine to 😂 I love seeing all these vice documentaries about terrible Ukraine millitas and extremism but now they’re like “we love Ukraine, they’re all hero’s 😭”.
Are you that ignorant 🤦♀️
Yep. Perfect comment.
May be because they literally give their lives for Ukraine, without them country would already be destroyed and broke into pieces. But as we saw after 2014, politically they have no support in Ukraine, just about 1,5% want them to be in goverment.
And fyi ukrainian goverment was and may be still is very corrupted, they sold weapons and army before 2014, so there was no faith in them. That's why volunteer battalions were more popular in such radical patriotic circles. Today it's changing little step by step, and may be after war such people will rather go into regular army, because of salary, social pack, professional instructors and well equiped etc.
You should look in CNN channel from 4 years ago 🤣🤣hypocrites
They're saying it of the Ukrainian army though, aren't they? These people's militias are long gone.
I miss Simon. Glad to see Vice covering the forgotten Ukraine conflict.
Ian Cornell
What happened to him btw? Haven't seen him in ages
LL cool J he’s active on Twitter and is doing work in Ukraine on his own
C Cc
Oh okey 👍
Ian Cornell Simon too bait there now lol
forgotten? our media has been refusing to cover the is war thats why its this bad
most intense sleep over ever.
Id wet the bed forsureee
more like fake fight with edited audio
Tanner Butler why are you bringing your anti Semitism into this video? Surely there should be a better video to complain about de jewz than this right, or have you already commented the same thing on every video they’ve uploaded?
pillow fights evolved into firefights
To me it seemed fake
been waiting for someone to mention this. I'm with Ukraine but this always deserved a seat at the conversation table..
This is what Ukrainians have been doing since 2014. You can read about the many volunteers who were held liable for illegal actions in accordance with Ukrainian law. You can start from Tornado battalion, leader of which still in prison, if I'm not wrong.
People who sit in the Kremlin consider negotiations only as an attempt to better prepare. They see weakness in the negotiations and simply wait until it will be possible to break through Ukraine and the countries of the West with the next offensive. How can you negotiate with an army of 500,000 on your territory? It seems to me that if Russia (the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world!) wants to discuss its security, it is not necessary to invade a neighboring country with its entire army.
@@pltv4649 And yet Merkel jusy stated that Ukraine never intended to honor the Minsk agreement, they used it as a stall tactic to equip/train an army. Poroshenko pretty much said the same thing. Oh, and Russia hasn't invaded with it's entire army.
@@dlewisfl and they did it right. Minsk was the only way to calm down russia in 2014. But its was horrible option for ukraine. We just have no other choice. Donbass region is just a kremlin puppet, so that region in theory was able to ruin all initiatives and ban all ukrainian attempts in integration with west. Now we have to f**k ruzzia and build big f**ing wall on the border.
@@pltv4649 what an idiotic take
Literally OUT OF CONTROL currently
what kind of reporter asks a commander if he feels responsible for his soldiers deaths? good job Vice.
ikr
As if he was going to respond : nah m8 don't give a f
@@Coconutscott as evidenced by the video the smug little idiot has bigger balls than the armchair-warriors like you in the comments.
@@LowStuff well said
SHIFT On the Track Im sure a western boi like you would dive headfirst onto a front with the most aggressive nation in the world and have the balls to interview these people.
The reporter comes off like a giddy school girl while asking these battered soldiers about how much fun they must be having down in the trenches.
12:22 and there is the swastika.
I lived in Belgium for 15 years, and I wish Ukraine and Russia followed example of settling Flemish-Valoon and Flemish-Dutch disputes: linguistically, legal residents should vote in referendum for being in Ukraine or RUSSIA, including exclaves and inclaves, etc. I.e., Crimea and other Russian speaking areas should allow their legal residentd to decide on their future. No war. Looks so easy, almost too easy to be true. I admire Belgians - they even allowed their German speaking community to be autonomous, with their language laws and education, etc. Shame on nationalists killing each other. Admittedly, it took decades for Belgians to achieve that. But Russians and Ukrainians should learn from their experience. Or, follow Czech-Slovak velvet divorce - both countries are friends, mutually allowing their kids to study in each other states for free, never requiring visas, mutually having residence and work permits for each others´ residents, etc. Perhaps it is too late, but, Ukrainians and Russians, look at Czechs and Slovaks, how they managed to separate but stay brothers and friends!
That is actually an unbelievably good point. Thank you for sharing it
Crimea and Odessa tried to vote and the people got killed for it👍
That was their plan when they held the referendums. That wasn't allowed to happen by orders of certain governments and people in other countries. If you want to know who those people who promoted the violence are, just look at who was speaking at the Maiden protest.
you're an idiot if you think this is some nationalists killing each other. Ruscist ideology has always had neonazi ideas about annihilation other countries and forced russification. Look at all the cultures that are part of "russian" identity... If you think "russian" is a single culture, you've fallen for ruscist propaganda already.
Seperatist militias left mass graves in Sloviansk in 2014. You want these people to hold referendums. Absolutely foolish.
I'm Ukrainian and watching the first minute I already see multiple translation errors, he said different things than what they wrote
You should correct them and make it known. One of the worst things that someone (VICE NEWS) could do when "reporting news" is to 'un-truth' (you're a queef if you support the use of that term) and intentionally misinform by way of propaganda. Sadly, that has become the norm for journalism as a whole. Kudos for covering the situation but stop twisting shit and being soooooo extra. Adding sound effects in and shit. lol
I had to replay that part a couple times as Slovak and Ukrainian are obviously different, but yes you are right they didn't translate it properly
I'm Ukrainian too, fluent in English, and I'm telling you this amount of errors is more than OK. Maybe about 1 error a minute, that's not much.
Yeah (btw he was speaking russian), he was cocky a bit but the translation was just terrible
PS I'm not a native speaker but with the quality of the sound even my ukrainian buddies have no idea what they're shouting in the end, any help? XD
@Sk0lzkiy tell me the exact time (a minute and a second) where they shout something and you don't understand what. I'll tell you what is it. I've watched the whole video A to Z and understood every single word.
"H-How many guys did you lost?"
DUDE! DONT!
I kept telling people this has been going. It just finally blew up. There is only so much water that can fit in the ballon before it pop
4 years ago. Hmm. I thought MSM said it started 1 year ago? I wonder who is lying...again......as always.
You've got some big ballz going there, even 4 years ago. Much respect
Gotta love how vices switches from demonizing these militia guys to praising them for their defense
It the Liberal way. No morale base and chase what ever is trending to maintain power. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
To be fair, this is a pretty old video. In the meantime a wannabe nazi regime has destroyed half of Ukraine, making the alleged threat of a small number of far right soldiers look like a very silly story in today's light
@@martint8530 to be fair Vice gave Putin every justification. Only then did Vice switch sides.
they were demonised? where?
@@blahblahboii you can’t be serious?
Ukraine: "We are being invaded by Russia."
Vice:"But, NeoNazi's and Fascists are on your front lines fighting Russia, what about them?" Cries.
"yes i know the russian invasion is bad but what about the nao nazis and the alt right?"
When will you stop these fantasies about a Russian invasion? For 6 years, I have not recognized anyone in Russia who fought in Ukraine. If Russia invaded, why hasn't Ukraine declared war on Russia yet?
@@AWtify russia is supplying the russian rebel groups. This is obvious. They have russian equipment and everything even though russia denies supplying them.
@@AWtify Russia and even Putin himself said Russian troops entered Ukraine. They took off indetification and soldiers aided the Separatist Rebels in the beginning of the war. Now Russia supplies guns, ammunition and supply's to the separatists.
Mat a civil war funded by Russia so he can take it even easier from behind the scenes
Dam its scary that this was 4 years ago but still now on
That dude Santa has the 1000 yard stare at all times. I feel for him. Just from a couple of minutes of him talking you can see he's really seen some shit.
sure he did in ukrainian jail for 10 years
@Based Log you say leftist in a derogatory way, when Santa literally calls himself an Anarchist.
Over there, it's a kilometer
He's a heavy hearted man for sure.
Sympathy for fascists,anarchists and nationalists will not lead you to anything good!!!
Mark Twain, “It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.”
"Blind faith in your leaders or in anything will get you killed." - Bruce Springsteen (1985)
Supporting terrorists what could go wrong-CIA circa 1979-1989 :Afghanistan
Supporting terrorists what could go wrong-CIA circa 2011-2014 :Syria
Supporting Neo Nazis what could go wrong-CIA circa 2014-present :Ukraine
@@jasonvanorsdol1755 Where were you these past 8 years, there are literally multiple videos covering the Avoz battalion as well as the rise of the far right. I mean can you explain the SS lighting bolts on their uniforms and other fascist symbols.
@@jasonvanorsdol1755 Nothing wrong with supporting Putin
@@volvo24091 You are a troll, a clown or both.
well, this didnt age well
The interviewer should never have left Starbucks and attempted to comment on something he doesn't understand.
exactly.
@John Gladden ok boomer
At least he's interested and can you blame him for asking questions? I mean if you dont know something then ask someone or else you will continue to be ignorant.
"If you aren't afraid of anything you're either an idiot or dead the next day"
-Santa
Some wisdom
But you follow the rules of Islam, because you fear Allah, so you do fear something.
KingInfected that's literally wot he just said
Well, so what Adam Brown said applies to him too, right? So why even mention it as "incorrect" then?
Shah Gamer congrats on being willing to die for a magical being in the sky 😂😂😂 i will give my life for my family and my countrymen not some mythical being that doesn't exist at all😂😂😂 fucking caveman mindset 😂😂
Oh Yeh Yeh allah snackbar
The quiet “yes” from Santa said it all
It’s 2023. I wonder how many of those volunteers are still alive.
“Unwilling to hand their weapons over to the government.” GOOD.
How is that good? Lasting weapon circulation is whats killing US troops in the middle east. Extremists keeping weapons isnt good.
superbtrack _6 I would like if the US troops weren’t in the Middle East to begin with. Not being in the Middle East would drastically decrease the chance of being shot at and dying in the Middle East. Also these are Ukrainian nationals and Ukrainian military fighting organized civilian separatist militias backed by the Russian government.
@@superbtrack_6482 goverments should not have monopoly over weapons.Goverments are the greatest massacres ever.Nazi germany,soviet union,china etc..
@@superbtrack_6482 if you are not okay with the weapons in the hands of those who you gave them to in the first place then you shouldn't have given them in the first place.
@@jarzu3555 you do realize that the red army took power because the tsar was over thrown BECAUSE the PEOPLE revoltex
Wow, vice has an unbroken record of being right and wrong on every issue.
🤣😅
Yep😂
Absolutely uncanny!
That’s what happens when real journalists journalism.
Wrong
Outstanding coverage and video... Outstanding!
This is an interesting dynamic shift.
Footage at [12:17]
Militia guy: "Гладиолус, парни!" / "Gladiolus, mates!" (obviously referring to 2S5 Giatsint-S self propelled howitzer gun mod.)
Vice translation: "Get ready."
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Dude: "...а там посмотрим, насколько их хватит" (and then we'll see how much they can take)
Translation: "and we'll destroy them"
@@TitovIgorBro I hope
@@csme07 that's true
BS, my darling. Pure unadulterated BS. The Rebels didn't have anything even remotely resembling a GIATSINT or any other " flower " if you get my drift. Definitely not in 2014.
Look at the Neo Nazi symbolism at 12:21
"How can you put your life in the hands of someone who isn't as committed as you?"
But ultimately they are being used by those people who are not committed as they are. That's unfortunate.
This video sure aged well Vice. Ready to admit you were wrong yet? Lmfao.
Wrong about what lmao? They just went out and asked these dudes questions, there wasn't even any real takes from anyone in this video.
Tell us you didn't watch the video without telling us you didn't watch the video.
@@brly2514 Way to passive-aggressively reply without tagging me, why don't you lay out the takes you thought aged poorly then?
@@plmokm33 oh I bet your wife is very happy with your nit picking
This aged like milk.
"Are they just out here playing soldier, or do they have a crucial combat role?" This journalist clearly knows nothing about soldiering and how much of a soldier's time is spent standing around doing nothing much.
I think he means something like; are they really fighting on the front line, or are they more like a patrol group.
Yeah, he pissed me off with that dumb ass comment.
I can agree that was an extremely rude statement. All soldiers eventually have to wait to hold positions. Thats crucial to safety of everything.
Nah. These clowns have no operational value. That's why the government wants them to go home, but without the war they'll just be jobless losers again. Trying to climb the ladder of chaos.
99% boring work ; 1% terror ?
in the first few seconds of this video I thought to myself "damn his voice is annoying lol" then scrolled down to the comments to see everyone shitting on him
that santa guy is super cool, but you can see from his eyes, he's tired so much all of this shit happening in his country.
probably he just overindulged himself with local booze in the previous days
Man if I've ever seen dead eyes, it his. This dude shambles around like a corpse, still it is not hard to see why they are following him. I guess he feels the weight on his shoulders and how they relie on him but still I guess ge is sonstantly questioning him selfe
He's a commander of a neo-nazi gang, which invaded the land of their neighbours.
The people they took the land from, the people they are fighting they speak russian.
It is NOT "his country".
This whole thing is a classic piece of NATO propaganda.
I see that Russian propaganda works on you, reptile
He is right tho....in the beginning the first commander said it straight up...that he took Nazis and he would do it again. Dont need the propaganda just listen to the people.
"Santa" seems like a good man
Paradox xodarap old man is just trying his best.. but deep down he knows it's all shit any way you look at it... Russia on one side and Germany led NATO that is scared of Nazi past on the other. The next 50 years of Ukraine is fucked...
I also liked Santa. He simply speaks the truth without cloaking his words. His eyes show the strain he's under. He cares about his people, his integrity, and the consequences of his actions. An intelligent man at war.
he really does, just an old dude trying to do his best out there for his brothers in arms...must be hard, better question is why hasn't the rest of the world done anything to help. America flexes its muscles all the damn time, beat back Russian supplied separatists why dont they
@@RobertTapia
I am Ukrainian and I totally agree with you. Unfortunately for my country.
@@erone4760
US would looove to have hot spot next to Russia border...
Jesus Christ! I got a flash back from the ringing noise that started @ minute 12:43. Same ringing from when I would combat my enemies. Godspeed to all fighter’s defending Ukraine.
"Playing on soldiers" - yeah I think since 2022 everyone got the reality check it wasnt really "playing" :D
Few wrong translations! But serious!
0:48 Not "Will destroy them" but " Will see how long will they last"
14:57 Not "Committed" but "Not so prepared".
“what do you like about the war right now?” ...really?
Best question ever lmfao
"you've got an AK, you've got some tea, dogs... but what do you need?" - this one is not better
And the whole video feels superficial - music, dramatical pictures and very general questions.
Vice News Russian Roulette dispatches were perfect comparing to this. Even comparing to the most of Ukrainian/Russian language media.
what the fuuuck i felt so bad for the volunteer guy when he asked it
@@MrClownJohnie I dan't think it's superficial, after all remember 17:53 he "definitely saw... actual fighting"
My my how times have changed
This did not age to well right VICE? It seems like all your boogeymen where actually heroes.
They are showing their nazi ideology so...nazis are heroes to you? For real?
3 years later and these guys are heroes, according to VICE
Ho ho
Now have a look at Alexander Barkashov, RNU and the Russian Orthodox Army.
Pro-Russian Nazis, still there fighting, and accused of the same types of crimes as Azov. Both are scum, and both are a small minority of all involved.
Funny asf ain’t it
YOu win the internet. Forever
They knew it is coming and only question of time when Putler will come to cut out another parts of the country...
... there is always one fact that no one can deny - it's the People who suffer - whether theyre from Syria, Mali, Ethiopia, Ukraine, Iran, Iraq etc etc - the ones who start these wars never ever pay for them with blood. Just us, the people.
In the future, they should. There should be a rule in international law stating that after the dust clears, whether it wins or loses, the leader of the invading nation should die. If the goals of the war are a big enough deal to the leader that the leader is willing to kill innocent civilians and troops on both sides, then it should be important enough that the leader is willing to die for it too.
@@havable good luck with that one my friend
Well that’s how it always is. It’s that way because it works. If everytime there was a war and the leader fought and died it would be chaos you know…
@@havable that can never happen as its the leaders that make the rules. And they won't be making laws that might potentially be used against them
NATO and America will definetely pay
Old head Ukrainian anarchist, gotta love him..
6:07 i love how the helmet doesnt even cover this guys head
English translation is not accurate everywhere. For instance: 0:47 - NOT "destroy them" but "we'll see how long they last". Regarding the video, looks like the reporter wanted to get some sensations or smashing comments from "radicals" but failed))
Agreed
If he wanted actual radicals, all he had to do was speak to Right Sector and with the volunteer battalions such as Aidar, Azov and others
DankoLviv I thought the same thing. Sadly, there aren't any unbiased views at this conflict. Vice isn't as independent as they try to claim. Ну ничего. Мы с вами 🇺🇸
That's especially clear in the "drinking" scene. First he suggests they are perceived as bad guys, then he whispers to the camera "I heard them say fuck the police...". This isn't honest journalism. Vice should be ashamed of sending an errand boy to any war zone, especially with the intention of getting a firefight.
Did you miss the torches at the end? Or the one guy saying how "blood and soil changes everything," while pointing to a blood and soil banner? Or the fact that Santa is an anarchist? Or the fact that the first 2 commander guys said they would never submit to the military? You need a better mis-translation example. The one you gave is only arguing semantics; it doesn't change the guy's message. He still said he would fight the government.
This dude better be careful who he asks “are you sure” too
Asking the president 'in control' of a rogue military with many black book activities "are you sure" and somehow walking out of his office has me baffled. If the camera wasn't there you could tell the president would've shown him a thing or two in the office
You know the old saying:
The enemy of my enemy is my friend