It won’t happen though slipknot is more of a business then a band the closest we’d ever get to reunions would be like how their old guitarist Donnie Steele filled in on bass for Paul for a couple years but that was just touring and they were kinda desperate at the time
Miss 😢Chris Fehn he kicked ass in Slipknot espiscally live performances . Rock in Peace Joey Nathan Jordinson. & Paul Gray you are still missed everyday but surely not forgotten .
I got to see them on the all hope is gone tour! I’m so happy I got to see them when they had the original line up! I was in middle school and it was my birthday day gift but I almost picked something else over it
Its sad that most people dont know that Paul wrote 90% of the riffs for their best album ever made, their Self Titled album... joey and Paul were the main song writers for the band up until pauls death. Cory has taken over and every album has sounded the same for years.... i miss the uniqueness they brought to this world 😢
90 Percent?!? that’s cap mick wrote a lot of riffs too give him his credit, and for the record corey didn’t take over the music writing process that’s Jim, the gray chapter sounds more like old slipknot then ahig did
@Romare Taylor james* doesn't even like the most recent album. His input was nonexistent. And everything recent sounds exactly the same. Nothing unique about it anymore. That's just my opinion. I could be 100% wrong, but to me they lost that unique sound after Paul's death and Joey's departure
When I was 4 my mom would show me Slipknot concert especially the one at download 2009, Chris masks was the only one that stood out to me, well his and Micks, Micks gave me nightmares at the time lmao
I'll always love Chris Fehn's contribution to the nine, but I'll always love Slipknot too. I do wish him well, and all the guys in the band still. They might get big or hot headed sometimes but they've been a big part of my life since I was basically a child.
@@sammitchell3657 how is it not? The most recent album was A) Not slipknot B) overproduced garbage and C) missing the key component of what made slipknot what they were
@@munchenonyou37742030 is probably the end of slipknot. Corey seems like he wants to focus on his solo work more and clown has talked about slipknot slowing down on touring.
Yes, totally agreeable....but Joey wasn't just a "stage spectacle", he was an artist, a musician, and the driving force of Slipknot along with Paul. Had that band had any other person in that spot: music would not have stood out and some of those famous lyrics/songs/riffs we know and love wouldn't have even existed, along with the iconic percussive grooves that inspired countless other drummers. Joey is the one who suggested changing the name to Slipknot; who drew the famous tribal S logo; who wrote guitar riffs and lyrics to some of their greatest songs; who brought the band together to make music when they all wanted to f*ck off elsewhere with their egos; and who teamed up with Paul to write a majority of the heaviest album they ever made. No one could ever replace Joey, or Paul, or Chris....and all of the albums after them have proven that they will always be missing something soulful. Not trying to be disrespectful to you in anyway, but am rather highlighting how anyone can fill a position but never actually fill in the position. Bad enough they never visited him in the hospital when he was going through that horrible bacterial disease...but then to fire him after he recovered is just grotesquely self-centered and a grave injustice to him and all of the fans, especially to go on and lie about to everyone in order to keep the corporate entity alive.
They are not great at all they suck. They are not slipknot. Jay is a wannabe Joey and Tortilla is weak too. The new bass play sounds nothing like Paul. So yeah they sucked ever since the gray chapter
@@joshdraken1 that’s what upset me the most about them. Corey wasn’t even an initial member, and yet he fires or kicks them out and the rest of the band doesn’t budge on saying anything. When Joey died, they didn’t do all the things they did for Paul. Corey didn’t go out and get a tattoo, have a benefit concert, or have his uniform and set on stage.. you know he should be thankful that even Jim still wants to play in the group. Considering he already left Stone Sour.
Regardless of what Clown claims about why he calls his fans Maggots calling someone a Maggot is to call them a worthless person. His story is total BS.
He will always be one of the 9 in our hearts. Slipknot is bound to evolve, but I don't think it could ever die. The 9 will change, the 9 will move on with others, but always with the 9 at heart. You can't kill it, and it can't be predicted. Long live the Knot🤘🤘🤘
@@sativaburns6705I think you may have misread my comment, maybe gloss over it again if you are confused. Also, for whatever reason, all mention of 133's departure has been removed from social media. 🤔🤔🤔
@@kalebburgess5088 there's no confusion, it's a corporate endeavor, everyone is replaceable, and they are quickly catching up with mushroomheads turn over rate.
Slipknot has become nothing more than a corporation. I've loved this band and these guys since 99 when I was 18. Its really sad to see them go from what they stood for back then to the typical generic Rockstar Hollywood types. When you find out that Corey and Shawn basically own the band and every other member is considered hired help it really makes respect for them dwindle. I still like them musically for the most part (TESF wasn't great imo especially since it had 4 Stone Sour songs at the end of it and I was never the guy who compared the two) but I don't love them like I did. Nowhere near. Its really sad when all your heros are dead. At least Chris can sit back and collect those royalties.
Clown nearly owns the band but I'm sorry his artistic visions are hot garbage. Not to mention his collaboration with Balenciaga? Like, wtf ? These were the guys who hated on Korn's drummer for being in an ADIDAS ad. I love the band I truly do but Corey's ego is getting out of hand & Shawn is honestly pretty worthless.
Chris sounded way better than tortilla man and his mask was just iconic and when him clown and sid headbanged at the end of DisasterPiece was just the Best
With Corey saying recently that he basically just goes in and punch in and out, makes me think there is a lot going on behind the scene. Honestly unless things change, im sorta just indifferent to Slipknot now.. the latest album didnt do anything for me
Agreed. They've become a corporation instead of a band. When I learned that Corey and Shawn basically own the band and every other member is considered hired help i lost any remaining respect i had. I was a hardcore fan since 99 so it really sucks to see them go from the message they were about to the cliche rock star Hollywood types most have become. Basically anyone who isn't Corey or Shawn have to walk on eggshells and tow the company line or get released from their contract. It really is so sad to see. TESF to me seemed like they literally threw some isht together to get out of that 7 album contract with Roadrunner. Its got a handful of ok stuff but the last 4 songs belonged on Stone Sours House of Gold and Bone imo. I was never that guy who compared the two bands but those 4 songs weren't Slipknot songs imo. Really I think everything went wrong after they sold out on Vol 3 imo. Sure they were screwed up really bad for those first two albums but at least they had their integrity.
@@buddykaiser2380 I agree. I’m also a big time fan since 99 and I do remember Vol.3 was when the band gained huge success.. they had always done great but that album pushed them in a more mainstream direction. After that is when I think it really started to become more of a company or brand then a band.. and the original message they pushed and what they were all about had been lost by the time AHIG dropped… as far as TESF I’d say there’s 3 songs that are ok at best and yea I definitely felt then Stone Sour vibes in many of the tracks especially the last ones.
@@buddykaiser2380 they were pushing out an album so that way they could get out from underneath the thumb of the record label. They now are independent again and can produce the music they really want to again.
Dude, if they want to make living out of making, you gotta have a leader and on business side, do you really believe that everyone would be owners of the band? While in garage and you form band, you don’t really think about these things, but when machine starts rolling, you get big, you get tour dates all over the globe, you get a record deal, it has to be branded. I have group of friends who started making living out of making and performing music, they tried to be all owners of the band on paper and it was a mistake for them since they had to pay more taxes and it’s legally much more frustrating, so they made only a drummer an owner, and others are “hired guns”, literally on paper they are session musicians, yet they are all equal between each other
@jonazz48 According to Corey, he and clown own the band, and everyone else is a hired gun. Couldn't be less equal!! We know who's getting all the money clown and Corey
Chris is a great dude, love the guy, always chill. His backing vocals are the best, when cory couldnt sing chris took over, and he killed it!! Many say a few songs he did were better with him. Always will support chris
@@JarradBruessel32 arer you sure about that? From the first album, "the barcode CD" till current? Then yeah,well technically someone else played and recorded guitar with mick and that guy left for whatever reason and jim joined,theirs been a lot of guys in and out of slipknot that arent there anymore,definetley more than 3
Bro what is going on with slipknot. Nothing against them at all but they are falling apart and it kills me to see a band that I love just destroy themselves Paul Joey Chris Craig Please ❤ send them love as well as the remaining members of slipknot and do not hate on them. These things happen. The band doesn’t owe you anything
We should honestly be counting ourselves lucky it took this long before we started losing core members. Hate to say it, but the remaining guys were always the most talented dudes. They’re gonna reload and keep going
Rumor has it, from Iowa, that the reason this happened was because Chris was not getting a proper cut of the money. This is because Shawn and Corey are the only actual members of Slipknot. Everyone else is an independent contractor...
Chris was one of my favorite members. Seeing im a Chris to lol Anyways he always brought so much energy to the stage and made it so much more better to watch them live. And he's always had such a awesome personality, joking around smiling enjoying life being a kind hearted person that anyone could identify with, instead of being a edgy stuck up asshole like so many other people are in the metal world.
Man it’s a shame. I hope in the end all members still show love to each other. Got a fun story… years ago a buddy of mine got to see them at the Glass House in Pomona Cali. This was back when the band was still a mystery, my buddy @ 17yrs was in the crowd watching the show He says he made total eye contact with Chris #3 and then he did a Front flip directly into Him slamming his foot into my Buddies Face. When he came to school on Monday he had a Huge black eye to show off with a Bad ass story to tell! He wore it like a proud battle scare. 😈
Glad he seems to be in good spirits. I hope one day we’ll see him do a cameo during a song or 2 like Jason Newstead and Adam Gontier did after they had their falling out with Metallica and Three Days Grace but who knows
@@apersonontheinternet1439 Even on the interview he admits. I don’t practice, I just hit the drum or keg. We had Joey so I had it easy and didn’t have to do anything. Smart man
Still wish I coulda seen slipknot live with all their original members. Now seeing Craig left, it sucks not seeing the unbreakable 9 that I grew up admiring on my computer screen, makes it seem like they aren’t really the brotherhood I thought they were as a kid but I guess that’s part of growing up
I love how people say "Slipknot died when paul, chris and joey. They were the OGs!" Which isnt true. Jim wasnt an original member. Sid wasnt an original member. Chris wasnt an original member. If you wanna talk about originals, you got Clown, Mick, Josh, Cuddles, Anders, Joey, and Paul. Theres your OGs. But to make a long story short. Band evolution is important. I mean hell, if things didn't change and anders never left, they probably wouldve left small venues in iowa. Corey coming in saved them, and gave them a chance at stardom. Gave them a future. Joey leaving gave Jay a shot. Which hes done a phenomenal job. Paul passed which was sad, but gave Vman a chance to join and look at the last two albums hes been on he has KILLED it on bass. Would've made Paul proud. Then you got Micheal Pfaff. Chris left but, now you got a guy that has more energy and has great stage presence and adds new energy to the band. Evolution and bands changing members isnt always a bad thing. People saying "oh they arent the same after so and so left" just make me laugh. You still have Mick, you still have clown, you still have Craig, Sid and you still have Corey. You got the core members left. Theyre still going strong and if in a few years another member leaves, so be it. Theyre still gonna do well, theyre still gonna tour and make millions and their legacy will live on forever. After many of us are long gone..
Guess what, you were right Chris… Being a company or not after so many years together these attitudes of the band of firing members is ridiculous , ungrateful and low.
I am paraphrasing here, but Chris said in another interview awhile back while still in slipknot that when he gets away from the band, he gets away lol. He even said that its like a ball of cancer that you can step out of for a bit and shake that shit off for a little while. So that right there was a foreshadow of how he was feeling even at that time. But, awesome that Chris is doing great and will always remember him in Slipknot and excited to see what he does in the future for music. Long live Slipknot 🤘🤘
nobody talks about how Paul was ignored during the time when his wife was trying to set up an intervention with all the members & family included. About a week before his death Brenna reached out to every member about Paul’s intervention and she wanted them to be a part of it, yet they all ignored her and one member was playing golf 2 minutes away from the day of the intervention. Then a week later he passed, Just kinda proves some more about the bs that band used to ignore.
Chris Fehn was my favorite dude in Slipknot. I’m sad to see that he’s out. I wish the best for him and and thank him for pointing at me when I was in the front row of the Jäegermeister Tour they were on back in the day!! 🫶🏻
Joey was busy doing his own thing and didn't want to make time for them. They wanted to get back in the studio. Joey had to go. Also jay is better artistically. Joey was just speed and the last they had played with him, he wasn't even able to play! He had to be helped on and off of the stage for fucks sakes. His body couldn't physically handle a tour again. Did you see how out of shape he was before he passed? He had to have gained at least 50 pounds. He refused to make time and physically he was questionable.
@Jarrad Bruessel I feel like this is fair, but he was artistically different, not inferior, and he contributed a lot more than drums as well. I just wish they'd drop this brotherhood crap, they're all corporate now, it doesn't mean anything to anyone in that band
@@JarradBruessel32 Hard to be in shape when you can't move properly. And he couldn't play drums properly as a drummer. Imagine what that does to someone mentally. He had transverse mytilitis.
@@JarradBruessel32 WTF... Hes one of the greatest drum players of our era, not only speed but also very technical and creative with his fills. The thing is that he was diagnosed with acute transverse myelitis, reason why slipknot had to move on without him at that time. Now let's see if you can do anything physical with a spinal cord inflammation, bet you can't even leave your bed, yet he was still trying to play even with help on and off the stage. Slipknot would never get to where they are without joey jordison. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
One of the down side of a Band being so successful is that they become a corporate machine. And when that happens everyone wants, what they see as their fair share of the loot. Ace Frehley and Peter Criss and Mick Mars are perfect examples of that.
That’s not all that much when you’re used to bringing in a million or more per year, per member, at least the OG crew. The new guy’s probably don’t have the same splits
Slipknot is CLOWN'S (Shawn's) baby, if you all think Corey is the one calling the shots, you're all wrong. Slipknot's core Members are Shawn, Joey and Paul, the latter two are gone from this life, it's basically Clown deciding everything. Even Corey had enough, stating in his last interview that Slipknot is CLOWN'S baby, and he's taking time away from Slipknot indefinitely. Just think, don't believe everything you hear.
He did as a live performer, though. He had always been the big party of their gigs and one of the most recognised member of the band beside Corey and maybe Joey/Mick/Jim.
@@die_flugel_der_freiheit7382 I agree, but he was if anything a very small part of the actual writing music part, and Clown was literally the one that handled most if not all of the business shit. I love the guy, I miss the original 9, but realistically he had a dream gig, made money hand over fist, and still decided to gripe over money.
@@die_flugel_der_freiheit7382 The sad truth is that he was easily a replaceable member. The money made should always be proportional to your contributions to the entity.
@@skeptischism1324 I’m pretty sure all the big bands share money equally and I don’t think Slipknot is a small regional gig. Also each of them has been mentioned as a writer on their albums. Being easily replaceable? I don’t know, I’m pretty sure you can replace anyone, but Corey in the band, because his vocals are quite recognizable, majority of people won’t care about the rest as long as he sings the songs and the other guys wear masks and let’s be honest, none of the Slipknot guys is genuinely talented or skilled musician. Most of the songs were written by Paul and Joey anyway.
@@die_flugel_der_freiheit7382 I wasnt trying to say others arent replaceable per se, just stating a fact. If you alter the core dynamic of song writers or contributers, the band can change drastically. That can obviously be good or bad. Again im not trying to slam the guy, aside from Jim and Sid he was my fave to watch live, but still. Id argue he was compensated beyond fairly.
I still love Slipknot and I'm that kind of fan that focus on music and not their personal life or issue. I sincerely hope Chris got a good opportunity out there, and I hope Paul and Joey are happy now, and I also hope Craig leave for personal reason, not like having beef with them or anything. Still love them all dearly including new members. New members did not deserve the hate.
Well he can at least say he WAS in Slipknot. That is better than all of us who aren't. Dude needs to start his own band now. And Sinsaenium and Murderdolls still KICK ASS. R.I.P JOEY AND PAUL.
I miss Chris and his contributions to the live performances. It just isn't the same. Sure, it isn't tortillaman's fault, but an iconic piece of the Knot is gone. And with Craig no longer in Slipknot, we've lost half of Slipknot [Paul, Joey, Chris, Craig].
Stopped supporting slipkock after the Fehn incident. Corey Taylor is the modern day Lars Ulrich, which if you know anything about Lars you know it’s a bad thing.
Yeah, that guy gives me real creep vibes. I only get money hungry vibes from Lars, and a big ego, which is the norm for rock stars that big I think. Corey was the 34 year old creepazoid, still trying to get high school kid friends. That's the vibe I get from him. Total creep imo. He's a pedo basically and he's the reason why I definitely can't get into Slipkock lol, I like that.
It's true. He even admitted to saying bands should get paid more for streaming etc. It's all about money now. Sad that it goes from doing it cause you enjoy it and make a living to being about the money cause fuck the fans and enjoyment. Music is written to share your emotions and feelings. Making money is a bonus imo. (Wrote this half asleep.)
@@brettwatson7573 so your upset that corey thinks bands in General should make more money off of streaming? stfu that’s not a selfish greedy statement, if he didn’t care about the music he wouldn’t be making music rn, just cause he’s not making classics at the same rate doesn’t mean he’s a sellout. there’s 9 members in slipknot you really think none of them besides him get a say?
@@romaretaylor9953 nah I should have worded that better. It's not about the more money from streaming I agree the royalties they pay for streaming are beyond trash. I meant more his attitude about more money in general. Was based on an article I'd read
@@drewjohnson4794calling him a pedo is going a little far. As far as comparing him to Lars, that's far fetched. Lars is the only drummer who has gotten progressively worse as time goes on. Cory's voice keeps getting better.
@@romaretaylor9953 They kept awfully quiet about Joey and Chris- why would they suddenly stick their neck out now [I don't blame them, but I don't see why they wouldn't stay silent]
@@SonOfNone they weren’t allowed to speak of joeys situation from a LEGAL standpoint. but if you know how to read between the lines based on what jim said joey was getting into hard drugs again and it was already an emotionally fragile time from the band.
@@romaretaylor9953 Joey didn't get back into drugs though. He had transverse myelitis- that's why the band _thought_ he was on drugs, but wasn't. I don't see why they'd be bound to say nothing about Joey but free to say whatever about Craig. All I'm getting at is that the silence is pretty normal when someone grts booted from Slipknot.
I get the vibe that he may have been genuinely disgruntled, but I don't think we'll ever truly know if it was justified. Can't judge positively or negatively on either end when it comes to money. Both or neither of them could be consumed by greed. We'll never know the full story. Isn't Capitalism great? /s In any case I think the band is genuinely still going strong, even if I thought "The End, So Far" was good, but still got outshined by "We Are Not Your Kind." I like the experimentation they're still doing cause it keeps the music fresh, but WANYK landed it better.
The facts: We would have preferred Chris just do exactly as Clown and Corey tell him. Love the knot.
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When Paul Grey died that is when Slipknot fell apart far as it's core and unity I didn't like the way they (with Chris) did Joey long before he passed kicking him out of the band but they should have been honest about the reason and cause to the supporters who actually buy their music and shows
Chris wanted more money when he barely did anything in slipknot except for being an performer for the live shows. He was listed as a writer but his parts were very small. Corey is the voice of slipknot and has been since he joined idk why people are acting like he took over being the voice after paul died when paul really never talked. Clown does all of the production basically, the band was originally his idea, he does all of the music video directing, and he is also the 2nd most vocal guy in the band. If the rest of the band contributed as much then yes they should get paid the same, but the fact is they don't. Sid rarely ever talks. Craig no one really knows what he sounds like or what he really does. Jay and vman rarely talk. Jim just likes doing his guitar thing and mick is I'm pretty sure off hiding bodies somewhere with Craig.
Speaking from experience of over 30 years in the band world . This is the stuff that is hard to deal with but very common. I've never been on the end of getting kicked out, but i've involved in kicking out members. It sucks and It's usually never been about the music. That's what you say though. It's usually because they don't get along with the person. And yes sometimes it's the nice dude Who gets booted. It's not fair but it is what it is.
Good to hear from Chris Fehn and glad to see he's doing well \m/
It's Just the Clown and Corey show..they screw EVERYONE over
@@jeremyhilton6 EXACTLY when Paul died and they kicked Joey out. They had owned the band.
Also coulda been respectful and learned how to pronounce his name correct.
@@DanielJayUSA Cause Joey couldn't play anymore of his condition stupid, he obviously wasn't useful for em for him to know
@@jeremyhilton6 Oh hush
His mask is iconic, his back vocals were amazing and brutal. Wish they'd come back together
Honeslty, they’ll prolly never get back together
@@skittlesplzubitch5229Never say never, they could reconcile, Axl and Slash, so it could be possible
Bro his vocals really were the shit! These new tortilla chip vocals just don’t compare.
@@RubenMartinez-cq8hk they were awesome
It won’t happen though slipknot is more of a business then a band the closest we’d ever get to reunions would be like how their old guitarist Donnie Steele filled in on bass for Paul for a couple years but that was just touring and they were kinda desperate at the time
I love slipknot, but they did Joey and Chris so wrong. They were part of the reason why they grew into what they are today.
Corny did them both wrong.
@pigGRAY How did they do Joey wrong again? Don't lie either!!!!
I've read Joey was pretty disappointed to be informed, and how they communicated with him, to believe him when he says things.
@@dsxa918 Do you know why he was kicked out?
@@taurusbull8276 because it is Corny Trailers Slipknot.
What exactly got #3 "dismissed"?
Pig wouldn't have let his (and clowns) band fall apart.
Miss 😢Chris Fehn he kicked ass in Slipknot espiscally live performances . Rock in Peace Joey Nathan Jordinson. & Paul Gray you are still missed everyday but surely not forgotten .
RIP Jordison and GrAy
@The Trash Man lol. Thanks for telling me to chill. I was still venting about the spelling until you responded.
@@daBEAGLE1017 chill
Amen to that brother 🥺🫶🤘
It’s too bad I didn’t see Slipknot while he was still in the band. Love his backing vocals
I did, but I didn't see the Joey and Paul lineup
@@annetteslife I wished I got to see the the classic nine lineup with Joey and Paul as well
@Bailey Leasure same.
I got to see them on the all hope is gone tour! I’m so happy I got to see them when they had the original line up! I was in middle school and it was my birthday day gift but I almost picked something else over it
@Julian Garcia you are lucky. I got to see them on .5 the Gray Chapter tour in 2015
Its sad that most people dont know that Paul wrote 90% of the riffs for their best album ever made, their Self Titled album... joey and Paul were the main song writers for the band up until pauls death. Cory has taken over and every album has sounded the same for years.... i miss the uniqueness they brought to this world 😢
90 Percent?!? that’s cap mick wrote a lot of riffs too give him his credit, and for the record corey didn’t take over the music writing process that’s Jim, the gray chapter sounds more like old slipknot then ahig did
@Romare Taylor my guy, youtube it mick did some writing on Iowa and vol 3 but Paul and Joey were the soul writers of the first two albums.
@Romare Taylor james* doesn't even like the most recent album. His input was nonexistent. And everything recent sounds exactly the same. Nothing unique about it anymore. That's just my opinion. I could be 100% wrong, but to me they lost that unique sound after Paul's death and Joey's departure
Slipknot sucks now
@@romaretaylor9953 joey and paul wrote 90% of the songs from the first 3 albums
I miss Chris with Slipknot he was a great singer and drummer & his mask was Slipknot to me
With you on that mate
Yeah as far as I'm concerned Chris' mask is the most iconic Slipknot mask ever.
Followed by Craig's mask and Clowns original mask.
Dicknose *IS* Slipknot
@@MrMisterDerp like your mom
When I was 4 my mom would show me Slipknot concert especially the one at download 2009, Chris masks was the only one that stood out to me, well his and Micks, Micks gave me nightmares at the time lmao
I'll always love Chris Fehn's contribution to the nine, but I'll always love Slipknot too. I do wish him well, and all the guys in the band still. They might get big or hot headed sometimes but they've been a big part of my life since I was basically a child.
Slipknot is now the corey taylor project, and its frankly a joke and an insult to Paul imo
@@munchenonyou3774 wrong.
@@sammitchell3657 how is it not? The most recent album was A) Not slipknot B) overproduced garbage and C) missing the key component of what made slipknot what they were
@@munchenonyou37742030 is probably the end of slipknot. Corey seems like he wants to focus on his solo work more and clown has talked about slipknot slowing down on touring.
@@Limonelguey good. Theyve run their course and its sad to see them try to continue what they did 20 years ago
Although jay and tortilla man are great, they can never replace what chris and joey brought to the stage spectacle.
Yes, totally agreeable....but Joey wasn't just a "stage spectacle", he was an artist, a musician, and the driving force of Slipknot along with Paul. Had that band had any other person in that spot: music would not have stood out and some of those famous lyrics/songs/riffs we know and love wouldn't have even existed, along with the iconic percussive grooves that inspired countless other drummers.
Joey is the one who suggested changing the name to Slipknot; who drew the famous tribal S logo; who wrote guitar riffs and lyrics to some of their greatest songs; who brought the band together to make music when they all wanted to f*ck off elsewhere with their egos; and who teamed up with Paul to write a majority of the heaviest album they ever made.
No one could ever replace Joey, or Paul, or Chris....and all of the albums after them have proven that they will always be missing something soulful.
Not trying to be disrespectful to you in anyway, but am rather highlighting how anyone can fill a position but never actually fill in the position.
Bad enough they never visited him in the hospital when he was going through that horrible bacterial disease...but then to fire him after he recovered is just grotesquely self-centered and a grave injustice to him and all of the fans, especially to go on and lie about to everyone in order to keep the corporate entity alive.
They are not great at all they suck. They are not slipknot. Jay is a wannabe Joey and Tortilla is weak too. The new bass play sounds nothing like Paul. So yeah they sucked ever since the gray chapter
@@joshdraken1 that’s what upset me the most about them. Corey wasn’t even an initial member, and yet he fires or kicks them out and the rest of the band doesn’t budge on saying anything. When Joey died, they didn’t do all the things they did for Paul. Corey didn’t go out and get a tattoo, have a benefit concert, or have his uniform and set on stage.. you know he should be thankful that even Jim still wants to play in the group. Considering he already left Stone Sour.
As a longtime maggot, I gotta say that I just wish everyone well. Both current and past members. Long live the 9. Also, RIP Joey and Paul.
Regardless of what Clown claims about why he calls his fans Maggots calling someone a Maggot is to call them a worthless person. His story is total BS.
He will always be one of the 9 in our hearts. Slipknot is bound to evolve, but I don't think it could ever die. The 9 will change, the 9 will move on with others, but always with the 9 at heart. You can't kill it, and it can't be predicted. Long live the Knot🤘🤘🤘
They didn't evolve. Listening to Avengeds new album that is evolution. Their attempt at evolution is shit
Lol the sanctity of the 9. What's Craig Jones have to say about that today?
@@sativaburns6705 was looking for this comment lol
@@sativaburns6705I think you may have misread my comment, maybe gloss over it again if you are confused. Also, for whatever reason, all mention of 133's departure has been removed from social media. 🤔🤔🤔
@@kalebburgess5088 there's no confusion, it's a corporate endeavor, everyone is replaceable, and they are quickly catching up with mushroomheads turn over rate.
Miss you Chris. True fans always will
I wish him all the best and hope he's doing well.
Corey And Shawn Are like the Gene and paul of slipknot.
LOL!!
Yepppp
Why does this comment not have more likes. It’s kind of a perfect comparison if you look at it from how they put finances first
Slipknot has become nothing more than a corporation. I've loved this band and these guys since 99 when I was 18. Its really sad to see them go from what they stood for back then to the typical generic Rockstar Hollywood types. When you find out that Corey and Shawn basically own the band and every other member is considered hired help it really makes respect for them dwindle. I still like them musically for the most part (TESF wasn't great imo especially since it had 4 Stone Sour songs at the end of it and I was never the guy who compared the two) but I don't love them like I did. Nowhere near. Its really sad when all your heros are dead.
At least Chris can sit back and collect those royalties.
I second this statement as someone who also followed the knot in the early years.
Hell yeah 🤘 couldnt of said it better myself
Clown nearly owns the band but I'm sorry his artistic visions are hot garbage. Not to mention his collaboration with Balenciaga? Like, wtf ? These were the guys who hated on Korn's drummer for being in an ADIDAS ad. I love the band I truly do but Corey's ego is getting out of hand & Shawn is honestly pretty worthless.
@@Knailz Well said! Not only is Corey's ego getting out of hand, his politics also ruined it for me.
"Stone Sour songs?" Bahahahhaha 😅😂
Chris sounded way better than tortilla man and his mask was just iconic and when him clown and sid headbanged at the end of DisasterPiece was just the Best
Bro, the ending still creeps me out to this day. Disasterpeice
Miss Chris in Slipknot. Good to hear his is doing well.
Chris was still in the slipknot I grew up listening to. You’re awesome Chris!
With Corey saying recently that he basically just goes in and punch in and out, makes me think there is a lot going on behind the scene. Honestly unless things change, im sorta just indifferent to Slipknot now.. the latest album didnt do anything for me
Slipknot has changed a lot and I feel the same way.. the last album was nothing special I listened to it once and probably won’t again
Agreed. They've become a corporation instead of a band. When I learned that Corey and Shawn basically own the band and every other member is considered hired help i lost any remaining respect i had. I was a hardcore fan since 99 so it really sucks to see them go from the message they were about to the cliche rock star Hollywood types most have become. Basically anyone who isn't Corey or Shawn have to walk on eggshells and tow the company line or get released from their contract. It really is so sad to see. TESF to me seemed like they literally threw some isht together to get out of that 7 album contract with Roadrunner. Its got a handful of ok stuff but the last 4 songs belonged on Stone Sours House of Gold and Bone imo. I was never that guy who compared the two bands but those 4 songs weren't Slipknot songs imo. Really I think everything went wrong after they sold out on Vol 3 imo. Sure they were screwed up really bad for those first two albums but at least they had their integrity.
@@buddykaiser2380 I agree. I’m also a big time fan since 99 and I do remember Vol.3 was when the band gained huge success.. they had always done great but that album pushed them in a more mainstream direction. After that is when I think it really started to become more of a company or brand then a band.. and the original message they pushed and what they were all about had been lost by the time AHIG dropped… as far as TESF I’d say there’s 3 songs that are ok at best and yea I definitely felt then Stone Sour vibes in many of the tracks especially the last ones.
The Worst So Far
@@buddykaiser2380 they were pushing out an album so that way they could get out from underneath the thumb of the record label. They now are independent again and can produce the music they really want to again.
Everyone knows Corey and Clown own that band, literally!!
Clown is the only founder left and Corey’s been the frontman for 25 years
Dude, if they want to make living out of making, you gotta have a leader and on business side, do you really believe that everyone would be owners of the band? While in garage and you form band, you don’t really think about these things, but when machine starts rolling, you get big, you get tour dates all over the globe, you get a record deal, it has to be branded. I have group of friends who started making living out of making and performing music, they tried to be all owners of the band on paper and it was a mistake for them since they had to pay more taxes and it’s legally much more frustrating, so they made only a drummer an owner, and others are “hired guns”, literally on paper they are session musicians, yet they are all equal between each other
@6sic610 when they finally broke out, there were 9 members, not 2. Those two would never have made it without the whole band. Especially without Joey!
@jonazz48 According to Corey, he and clown own the band, and everyone else is a hired gun. Couldn't be less equal!! We know who's getting all the money clown and Corey
@@waltermiller249 dude did you even read what I said? It’s legally easier to have fewer members as owners of a band simply put.
I love Slipknot. It sucks I never get to see Joey and Chris live.
Wish he was still with slipknot. I miss seeing him and his mask
When I think of Slipknot, fehn is one of the top 5 maybe even less that comes to mind first. Thank you for all the years you dedicated to Slipknot
Chris is a great dude, love the guy, always chill. His backing vocals are the best, when cory couldnt sing chris took over, and he killed it!! Many say a few songs he did were better with him. Always will support chris
No problem Chris! Slipknot has turned into the "Corey Taylor" project and its really getting old! We miss you!,
6 pf the 9 guys are still there.
Thank u! I’m glad it’s not just me that feels this way
@@JarradBruessel32 arer you sure about that? From the first album, "the barcode CD" till current? Then yeah,well technically someone else played and recorded guitar with mick and that guy left for whatever reason and jim joined,theirs been a lot of guys in and out of slipknot that arent there anymore,definetley more than 3
no it has always been the Mick Thompson project and you are better off for it the man is a guitar wizard and the only reason the band is where it is
@@Swellington_ lol my bad. That’s exactly what you said 😂 your right. Slipknot is not the same band. Even the sound is different
I'll always be grateful I got to see slipknot with their classic lineup.
Bro what is going on with slipknot. Nothing against them at all but they are falling apart and it kills me to see a band that I love just destroy themselves
Paul
Joey
Chris
Craig
Please ❤ send them love as well as the remaining members of slipknot and do not hate on them. These things happen. The band doesn’t owe you anything
We should honestly be counting ourselves lucky it took this long before we started losing core members.
Hate to say it, but the remaining guys were always the most talented dudes. They’re gonna reload and keep going
@@codybischoff1010 Yeah, I don't think people realize how much goes into keeping a band together. Most bands don't survive I feel like.
And now Jay! 😢
Thanks for covering my podcast dude!
When the trust is gone, better to move on
Rumor has it, from Iowa, that the reason this happened was because Chris was not getting a proper cut of the money. This is because Shawn and Corey are the only actual members of Slipknot. Everyone else is an independent contractor...
Chris had the best back up vocals.
was not the same without Joey and Paul and the Chris story finaly pushed me over the edge. I stopped following Slipknot after that...
I'm interested to see what he does next his role in Slipknot was very unique. I wish him the best of luck
Chris was one of my favorite members. Seeing im a Chris to lol Anyways he always brought so much energy to the stage and made it so much more better to watch them live. And he's always had such a awesome personality, joking around smiling enjoying life being a kind hearted person that anyone could identify with, instead of being a edgy stuck up asshole like so many other people are in the metal world.
Him and Joey will always be my favorite members.
Man it’s a shame. I hope in the end all members still show love to each other.
Got a fun story… years ago a buddy of mine got to see them at the Glass House in Pomona Cali. This was back when the band was still a mystery, my buddy @ 17yrs was in the crowd watching the show He says he made total eye contact with Chris #3 and then he did a Front flip directly into Him slamming his foot into my Buddies Face. When he came to school on Monday he had a Huge black eye to show off with a Bad ass story to tell! He wore it like a proud battle scare. 😈
Agree with you! Cool stroy as well :)
Glad he seems to be in good spirits. I hope one day we’ll see him do a cameo during a song or 2 like Jason Newstead and Adam Gontier did after they had their falling out with Metallica and Three Days Grace but who knows
I suspect dealing with various addictions & fame just being loaded with more legal issues & such.... Go easy on them all. ❤🖤
That new 3D production here is sooo cool man. Im happy to see your chanel evolve like that. Thanks for the video! @rockfeed
Miss you Chris 😔
Why? He hit a keg, screamed once in a while and that was it. Nothing in the bands sound changed once he was gone
Frederick champaguno stfu you dont even know what ur talking about
@@FrederickChampaguno 🤦♂️
@@apersonontheinternet1439
Even on the interview he admits. I don’t practice, I just hit the drum or keg. We had Joey so I had it easy and didn’t have to do anything. Smart man
Mick, Jim and Sid are the only ones holding it together now...
Before I knew slipknot back in year 2000, I remember someone wearing a slipknot shirt and it was Chris Fehn mask that stood out for me...
I'm miss him in slipknot tortilla man can never fill his shoes
I agree with you 💯
None of the og 9 can ever truly be replaced
@@PapaShubz idk v man tho....
@@Knee07 he’s cool and all but Paul was a main song writer for their earlier albums meanwhile vman was for TESF lol
Notice how Jay, tortea man, and the bassest (I forgor his name) aren't numbered
Still wish I coulda seen slipknot live with all their original members. Now seeing Craig left, it sucks not seeing the unbreakable 9 that I grew up admiring on my computer screen, makes it seem like they aren’t really the brotherhood I thought they were as a kid but I guess that’s part of growing up
Chris will always be the goat, his live singing was awesome to experience!
I love how people say "Slipknot died when paul, chris and joey. They were the OGs!" Which isnt true. Jim wasnt an original member. Sid wasnt an original member. Chris wasnt an original member. If you wanna talk about originals, you got Clown, Mick, Josh, Cuddles, Anders, Joey, and Paul. Theres your OGs. But to make a long story short. Band evolution is important. I mean hell, if things didn't change and anders never left, they probably wouldve left small venues in iowa. Corey coming in saved them, and gave them a chance at stardom. Gave them a future. Joey leaving gave Jay a shot. Which hes done a phenomenal job. Paul passed which was sad, but gave Vman a chance to join and look at the last two albums hes been on he has KILLED it on bass. Would've made Paul proud. Then you got Micheal Pfaff. Chris left but, now you got a guy that has more energy and has great stage presence and adds new energy to the band. Evolution and bands changing members isnt always a bad thing. People saying "oh they arent the same after so and so left" just make me laugh. You still have Mick, you still have clown, you still have Craig, Sid and you still have Corey. You got the core members left. Theyre still going strong and if in a few years another member leaves, so be it. Theyre still gonna do well, theyre still gonna tour and make millions and their legacy will live on forever. After many of us are long gone..
Not to take away anything you just so eloquently said....but you made me think of Megadeth when you were talking about core members and going strong.
Guess what, you were right Chris…
Being a company or not after so many years together these attitudes of the band of firing members is ridiculous , ungrateful and low.
Yea but after suing your own bandmates for money they didn’t steal from him how did you expect them to react?
God bless him ❤
I am paraphrasing here, but Chris said in another interview awhile back while still in slipknot that when he gets away from the band, he gets away lol. He even said that its like a ball of cancer that you can step out of for a bit and shake that shit off for a little while. So that right there was a foreshadow of how he was feeling even at that time. But, awesome that Chris is doing great and will always remember him in Slipknot and excited to see what he does in the future for music. Long live Slipknot 🤘🤘
nobody talks about how Paul was ignored during the time when his wife was trying to set up an intervention with all the members & family included. About a week before his death Brenna reached out to every member about Paul’s intervention and she wanted them to be a part of it, yet they all ignored her and one member was playing golf 2 minutes away from the day of the intervention. Then a week later he passed, Just kinda proves some more about the bs that band used to ignore.
Chris Fehn was my favorite dude in Slipknot. I’m sad to see that he’s out. I wish the best for him and and thank him for pointing at me when I was in the front row of the Jäegermeister Tour they were on back in the day!! 🫶🏻
3:03 for the point of the video
So he basically said nothing. Thanks.
He said Fck off!
When Paul passed away, so did the *Nine*… Slipknot isn’t family anymore, it’s what’s best for business
I hope Chris and Craig return to Slipknot in 2024 for the Self titled 25th anniversary tour
“All the money in the world cant buy me”
Famous last words
Ever since Joey got kicked out this band has fallen off HARD, I dont think Slipknot could a good song to save their lives at this point
Joey was busy doing his own thing and didn't want to make time for them. They wanted to get back in the studio. Joey had to go. Also jay is better artistically. Joey was just speed and the last they had played with him, he wasn't even able to play! He had to be helped on and off of the stage for fucks sakes. His body couldn't physically handle a tour again. Did you see how out of shape he was before he passed? He had to have gained at least 50 pounds. He refused to make time and physically he was questionable.
@Jarrad Bruessel I feel like this is fair, but he was artistically different, not inferior, and he contributed a lot more than drums as well.
I just wish they'd drop this brotherhood crap, they're all corporate now, it doesn't mean anything to anyone in that band
@@JarradBruessel32 Hard to be in shape when you can't move properly. And he couldn't play drums properly as a drummer. Imagine what that does to someone mentally. He had transverse mytilitis.
@@JarradBruessel32 WTF... Hes one of the greatest drum players of our era, not only speed but also very technical and creative with his fills. The thing is that he was diagnosed with acute transverse myelitis, reason why slipknot had to move on without him at that time. Now let's see if you can do anything physical with a spinal cord inflammation, bet you can't even leave your bed, yet he was still trying to play even with help on and off the stage. Slipknot would never get to where they are without joey jordison. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
@@aitokoojii1462 exactly. So why would they continue on with him?
One of the down side of a Band being so successful is that they become a corporate machine. And when that happens everyone wants, what they see as their fair share of the loot.
Ace Frehley and Peter Criss and Mick Mars are perfect examples of that.
Comparing Mick to ace
We miss you to Chris
Love you Chris. 🤘🔥
Chris Fehn was given a raw deal & as #3 will ALWAYS be a part of Slipknot. Clown should have defended him & Corey needs an attitude adjustment.
The problem with that is that Clown is right there with Corey.
Craig is no longer in the band now too 😞
Live long n still love phiniccio
I legit feel bad for Fehn 133
133 is craig😭
Everything will change
Just accept it
If you doesn't like it
Just leave it
Love music
He's still getting something around 100 to 200k a year from royalties I imagine. He will be fine.
That’s not all that much when you’re used to bringing in a million or more per year, per member, at least the OG crew. The new guy’s probably don’t have the same splits
@@the_minimalistic_adventure it's a lot of money for doing nothing. Stop.
@@DannyXXXXX It's not for doing nothing it's money from when he actually did something
Slipknot is CLOWN'S (Shawn's) baby, if you all think Corey is the one calling the shots, you're all wrong. Slipknot's core Members are Shawn, Joey and Paul, the latter two are gone from this life, it's basically Clown deciding everything. Even Corey had enough, stating in his last interview that Slipknot is CLOWN'S baby, and he's taking time away from Slipknot indefinitely. Just think, don't believe everything you hear.
Don't bite the hand they feeds man. I get Fehns stance, but considered he didn't add much to the process it wasn't a smart move.
He did as a live performer, though. He had always been the big party of their gigs and one of the most recognised member of the band beside Corey and maybe Joey/Mick/Jim.
@@die_flugel_der_freiheit7382 I agree, but he was if anything a very small part of the actual writing music part, and Clown was literally the one that handled most if not all of the business shit. I love the guy, I miss the original 9, but realistically he had a dream gig, made money hand over fist, and still decided to gripe over money.
@@die_flugel_der_freiheit7382 The sad truth is that he was easily a replaceable member. The money made should always be proportional to your contributions to the entity.
@@skeptischism1324 I’m pretty sure all the big bands share money equally and I don’t think Slipknot is a small regional gig. Also each of them has been mentioned as a writer on their albums.
Being easily replaceable? I don’t know, I’m pretty sure you can replace anyone, but Corey in the band, because his vocals are quite recognizable, majority of people won’t care about the rest as long as he sings the songs and the other guys wear masks and let’s be honest, none of the Slipknot guys is genuinely talented or skilled musician. Most of the songs were written by Paul and Joey anyway.
@@die_flugel_der_freiheit7382 I wasnt trying to say others arent replaceable per se, just stating a fact. If you alter the core dynamic of song writers or contributers, the band can change drastically. That can obviously be good or bad. Again im not trying to slam the guy, aside from Jim and Sid he was my fave to watch live, but still. Id argue he was compensated beyond fairly.
I still love Slipknot and I'm that kind of fan that focus on music and not their personal life or issue. I sincerely hope Chris got a good opportunity out there, and I hope Paul and Joey are happy now, and I also hope Craig leave for personal reason, not like having beef with them or anything. Still love them all dearly including new members. New members did not deserve the hate.
Way classier than Corey was about it.
I wish the host would have allowed him to speak on some of the internal drama that lead to his departure.
Well, now we got Craig
And now Craig is gone... slipknot is dead
Anyone know what he’s doing now after slipknot fired him?
I love you Chris fehn. you are going to be in my skin
1 2 3 and 5
I bet Sid or James are next
why is this almost perfectly timed when craig jones left
Well he can at least say he WAS in Slipknot. That is better than all of us who aren't. Dude needs to start his own band now. And Sinsaenium and Murderdolls still KICK ASS.
R.I.P JOEY AND PAUL.
I miss Chris and his contributions to the live performances. It just isn't the same. Sure, it isn't tortillaman's fault, but an iconic piece of the Knot is gone. And with Craig no longer in Slipknot, we've lost half of Slipknot [Paul, Joey, Chris, Craig].
Where's the link to that actual podcast
where can i find the source material ?
Stopped supporting slipkock after the Fehn incident. Corey Taylor is the modern day Lars Ulrich, which if you know anything about Lars you know it’s a bad thing.
Yeah, that guy gives me real creep vibes. I only get money hungry vibes from Lars, and a big ego, which is the norm for rock stars that big I think. Corey was the 34 year old creepazoid, still trying to get high school kid friends. That's the vibe I get from him. Total creep imo. He's a pedo basically and he's the reason why I definitely can't get into Slipkock lol, I like that.
It's true. He even admitted to saying bands should get paid more for streaming etc. It's all about money now. Sad that it goes from doing it cause you enjoy it and make a living to being about the money cause fuck the fans and enjoyment. Music is written to share your emotions and feelings. Making money is a bonus imo. (Wrote this half asleep.)
@@brettwatson7573 so your upset that corey thinks bands in General should make more money off of streaming? stfu that’s not a selfish greedy statement, if he didn’t care about the music he wouldn’t be making music rn, just cause he’s not making classics at the same rate doesn’t mean he’s a sellout. there’s 9 members in slipknot you really think none of them besides him get a say?
@@romaretaylor9953 nah I should have worded that better. It's not about the more money from streaming I agree the royalties they pay for streaming are beyond trash. I meant more his attitude about more money in general. Was based on an article I'd read
@@drewjohnson4794calling him a pedo is going a little far. As far as comparing him to Lars, that's far fetched. Lars is the only drummer who has gotten progressively worse as time goes on. Cory's voice keeps getting better.
Let’s stop calling them Slipknot, especially now that Craig has left too. It seems a lot like it’s Corey and Shawn’s way, or the highway.
how are you sure those 2 are the reason craig stepped down? if that was the case more members would’ve spoken up by now esp mick and Jim
@@romaretaylor9953
They kept awfully quiet about Joey and Chris- why would they suddenly stick their neck out now [I don't blame them, but I don't see why they wouldn't stay silent]
@@SonOfNone they weren’t allowed to speak of joeys situation from
a LEGAL standpoint. but if you know how to read between the lines based on what jim said joey was getting into hard drugs again and it was already an emotionally fragile time from the band.
@@romaretaylor9953
Joey didn't get back into drugs though. He had transverse myelitis- that's why the band _thought_ he was on drugs, but wasn't. I don't see why they'd be bound to say nothing about Joey but free to say whatever about Craig. All I'm getting at is that the silence is pretty normal when someone grts booted from Slipknot.
Chris Fehn made Slipknot shows great. I will never go and see them again because of how they treated Chris.
RESPECT GIVEN where RESPECT is DESERVED 👌
I get the vibe that he may have been genuinely disgruntled, but I don't think we'll ever truly know if it was justified. Can't judge positively or negatively on either end when it comes to money. Both or neither of them could be consumed by greed. We'll never know the full story.
Isn't Capitalism great? /s
In any case I think the band is genuinely still going strong, even if I thought "The End, So Far" was good, but still got outshined by "We Are Not Your Kind." I like the experimentation they're still doing cause it keeps the music fresh, but WANYK landed it better.
The facts: We would have preferred Chris just do exactly as Clown and Corey tell him. Love the knot.
When Paul Grey died that is when Slipknot fell apart far as it's core and unity I didn't like the way they (with Chris) did Joey long before he passed kicking him out of the band but they should have been honest about the reason and cause to the supporters who actually buy their music and shows
Legal tape.
I thought I was going to hear him talk
Slipknot is not a band its a corporation.
Exactly
Tortilla man sounds better but he’ll never be able to replace chris
as much as i like craig, he was bitching about something that wasnt even a real thing and then bitched about the consequences of his actions
I love slipknot but lets be honest the Knot its not the same as they were back then.
Chris wanted more money when he barely did anything in slipknot except for being an performer for the live shows. He was listed as a writer but his parts were very small. Corey is the voice of slipknot and has been since he joined idk why people are acting like he took over being the voice after paul died when paul really never talked. Clown does all of the production basically, the band was originally his idea, he does all of the music video directing, and he is also the 2nd most vocal guy in the band. If the rest of the band contributed as much then yes they should get paid the same, but the fact is they don't. Sid rarely ever talks. Craig no one really knows what he sounds like or what he really does. Jay and vman rarely talk. Jim just likes doing his guitar thing and mick is I'm pretty sure off hiding bodies somewhere with Craig.
message at 3:09
Speaking from experience of over 30 years in the band world . This is the stuff that is hard to deal with but very common. I've never been on the end of getting kicked out, but i've involved in kicking out members. It sucks and It's usually never been about the music. That's what you say though. It's usually because they don't get along with the person. And yes sometimes it's the nice dude Who gets booted. It's not fair but it is what it is.
Been a fan since 2003. AHIG was their last great album, and everything thats followed has been pale in comparison to SK's first four albums.
Man his mask was my favorite..☹
Now jay is gone :(
I miss you, Chris!