I Wish I Understood This Better When I Started Drawing...
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2022
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This is one of my favorite topics. I think focusing on the Construction Phase of your art is one of the best ways to both level up the quality of your work... and introduce a place where you can learn while creating.
Make a dedicated step in your process where you focus on drawing everything out and making sure it's as good as you can make it. Don't rush until you have solved as many drawing problems as you can...
As you progress you can leave more and more out of this construction phase... but it is always there if you need to figure something out.
If you check most of my 'Watch me Draw' videos I often skip over steps and just jump in... but I am always aware that I have that construction phase to figure stuff out if I need.
Again... this is not how I approach high detail professional work. I take my time and do a proper construction phase. (I go over this much more detailed process in my Line and Color Academy Course over at The Drawing Codex). This takes time and is often pretty laborious so I keep the Real Time tutorials here on youtube spontaneous and quick.
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It's very good to see someone argueing for how it's really done and exposing the behind the scenes that so many people don't get to see just being exposed to thw kind of art being shared on the Attention Economy world of Instagram and similar social media.
Aewsome content as always, I just wish it reached more people!
Hey Tim! Right on! Glad you’re vibing with this view of the world :-) Thanks so much for the support!
At school, our teacher always tried to squeeze us during the idea brainstorming process. And they always look right through our first ideas and asked us for more interesting ones.
And I saw many of Kim Jung Gi’s interviews and live streams both in Korean and English, and he usually makes highly detailed thumbnails or sketches, when he is making an “important” artwork (Korean government commission, ads by Riot and Blizzard), also he always mentions that he tries to visualize the composition as clear as he can in his mind before grabbing the pen. Also, he said he is still getting better at composition and he is very proud of it, which was kinda surprising to hear :)
This kind of topic was a real problem for me, whether I should film a reference for every comic panel or make a 3D markup, and how many sketches and thumbnails are required, or should just stop preparing and start drawing the actual thing? And it is nice to have someone talking about this :)
Hey Minseo! Yeah I can definitely relate to that experience of a teacher or someone just pushing past the first idea even without really looking at it. I think this must be hard core design school dogma or something. I think that often as we get more experienced we push those first ideas in the pursuit of perfection and really try to experiment and find more interesting choices. It’s certainly the case that a lot of good works have a detailed laborious set of ideas and preparatory drawings to go with them. But others might just as easily stem from a single initial idea where the inspiration was perfect on the first go. In education there is often a bias towards hardening the student to the rigours of life. To the harsh realities of rejection and artistic toil. I think this misses a singular very important point… it’s often the artist themselves who is choosing to push through that initial idea because the artist doesn’t like it. And the idea might actually be good but it might just not be what the wanted. In either case I think the key is that you can’t teach someone perfectionism by shooting down their first idea :) The best way to learn that is to try and take a half baked idea and turn it into a highly finished painting… The student only need to do this a few times before they start to put a lot more thought, care and preparation into those initial drawings. And then that impetus to make sure the idea is good comes from within. Which I think is how it needs to be.
Also that’s cool to hear your stories about Kim Jung Gi I have an actually looked in detail into his process or listen to a lot of his interviews so your insight is really helpful. That does make a lot of sense. And again tracks with my understanding of how this works. Often the things that Artists put out on the Internet and Instagram are there to get attention and this often isn’t the way that professional work is actually done. Even for those who are really pushing the idea of spontaneous drawing hard
Love this topic. To me, storyboards, thumbnails attract me more than finished illustration as they state about planning and though of authors.
What are your thoughts on all the steps required to create a finished Illustration? Did you try and skip this? Still trying to skip these steps? Never heard of this idea before? Totally nailed the idea first go?
Coincidentally, I am trying to change my way of understanding and approach to how I draw. Back then, I always wanted to finish a piece as soon as possible (we all know how it will look like and draw towards it), but sadly it turns out different. Now, I take things slow and in a structured manner. I really appreciate this vid tim!
Thanks Kerkzart ! Yeah I think there is a universal desire to just make the image as quickly as possible. I think that underpins the creative urge to 'make stuff'. I often get sucked into doing things really fast too. But I often find it's good to slow it down and go over the steps. I find that the end result is normally a lot better for it.
I definitely know what you talking about. I don't think I tried to skip it though. Instead I kind of got stuck in the sketch phase and didn't move on to finishing stuff much because of the time it takes. I'm currently in a place where I'm realizing I need to purposely finish more things to make a better habit
This video is what I really needed. Now in my artistic life I trying to find my own voice and I think to have "a space to play" it's a crucial thing. My frustration from my work grew with every bad drawing, and what even worse for some reason I didn't allow myself to fix that drawings. So now it's time for change and a lot of practice :)
Tim, thank you for opening my eyes
Hey Vladimir! I’m glad this one resonated with you, that’s awesome to hear. I think getting all this stuff straight in your head is honestly half the battle. It’s strange the things that we often carry with us into these challenges - ideas that we should or shouldn’t do it a particular way… it’s important to remember that every drawing and every project is unique. On some projects that are very challenging we often need to expand the process, increase the steps to give ourself those times to play. Other times it’s about just sketching around and trying to get that perfect line the first time. The key is to have a clear intent when you start any project or period of your artistic journey. Know why you’re doing what you’re doing :)
Good luck with it!
This video is such an eye opener for me cause I'm always trying to make artworks as beautiful as my favorite Japanese artists and then I will just get disappointed to myself afterwards because I don't like the result that I got but then I realized that it's not only skill and experience that separates me from them, but also planning. I'm always jumping straight to illustration because I'm rushing to get to their level and then I'll get stuck because I don't really have any plans on what I want to draw but I will try to plan thoroughly from now on. Thank you for this video❤️ may you reach a million subs cause you deserve it
absouletly what i need to hear, i always thought theres no way i could get an drawing right from get go and there always is a process which allows me to explore and then decide, this is awesome
Man your channel magically came on to my feeds and I'm half way through every video. You are an amazing Artist and I appreciate your advice. It helps me out a lot especially with my self doubt.
It took me a while to understand that art is a craft and designing and planning a painting or drawing before starting the actual piece is a good thing. I used to be keen on "only drawing the same thing once! " or " Art must be sponanious!" ( thanks art teachers, and thanks my own dumb brain ). But it clicked after visiting a art museum where they presented the preliminary sketches and studies alongside the finished paintings from renaissance painters. It still took a while to get into the habit of acutally doing the preliminary work, but it absolutely makes the finished piece better.
Though just drawing off the cuff still has its place, as it is just relaxing to do.
Hey Marcel! Yeah those old masters had to really plan it all out. I think paint was super expensive :) No chance to mess up and Ctrl Z :)
I think that drawing off the cuff and 'sketching around' (someone once said sketching is drawing without a plan, which was a nice way to think about it) is super important. The danger of planing all the time is that we can get good at it... but it does tend to make us think in a systematic way and perhaps avoid making mistakes or just letting the pencil fly.
One of the key points for drawing that is often missing with teaching is the idea of 'intent' Which I try to repeat over and over... it's critical to understand what you goal or intent is when you start any piece of art. When the goal is to sketch and be free... we can do that without worrying about reaching a level of finish. But when the goal is to get the highest level of finish possible... it's often a matter of increasing the steps and planning to the highest level too!
Howdy, I have just completed children’s literature course at uni and have completed a draft of a children’s picture book and surprised myself with my drawings. I messaged Darielle this morning about lessons n she sent me straight here, perfect timing for me that u have started ur own channel! Seeing this video makes me realise how simplistic my drawings are but hey, they are perfect for me and my needs and worth developing so Thankyou for putting yourself out there and also for allowing comments.
Hey Karen! Thanks for checking out the channel it’s cool to have you here!
Tim! Your content is PURE GOLD. It has helped me so much. I've been working as a concept artist since 2015 and your videos are among the best I've ever seen on these topics. You phrase yourself really good, it sounds candid and open. Top marks, man. I hope you're having an awesome day!
Hey Viktor! Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad these are helping out! It's cool to hear that these resonate with you as as someone who has been working as a concept artist. Much appreciated!
You are very well spoken and good to listen to. I’ve been a fan forever and throughout the years of my own progess as an artist I’ve come back to your videos many times. Thank you for making them
Hey Siim! Thanks so much for your kind words and support! I really appreciate it! Glad these are serving you.
Thank you so much for talking about the creative process before the finished product. Many people think that you start with a blank page and go straight to the end result.
Absolute gold!
Such an eye opener ! Thanks for sharing !
Valuable information! I appreciate the distinction between drawing as a performance art with a spontaneous process and a planned approach for consistency in quality professional production.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful!
♥️♥️♥️♥️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 love your channel!!!!
thanks you so much for this video
No worries!!
This is such a good video
The teacher I’ve been lookin for!
Thanks for another great video Tim. Uh yeah I do need to actually plug this in. Even Kim Jung Gi is doing his preparations. First and foremost, his ability to kinda freestyle and make up stuff is amazing, but that is byproduct of insane drawing hours he put into drawing with ink.
But in some of the interviews he actually mentions that he is creating kinda like a plan, like a "thumbnail" we would say, for one of his big images, actually showing it. If you look at his murals there are actually a lot of same objects, peoples, freestyled in different poses. It is KIIINDA same objects over and over.
For particular things he will be doing his studies or observations. He will spend time and mindpower thinking and planning.
And then there is his insane freestyle-kinda-comfort-zone (for him) thing of course.
Do not get me wrong, I am not diminishing his thing in any way - he is one of my favorites and inspirations!
I'm just saying, that at one point I understood, that actually he is doing every thing that any other professional artist would do, like Frazetta you would say. It just can look kinda alien sometimes and also serves as cool marketing thing, like "hey look a drawing with no sketch boom boom":) Which is true to some degree, but people don't get massive exhausting amount of mind work that go into it.
Hey Vyscerer! Thanks! That's a great insight. I haven't looked at a lot of his interviews to really see how he does stuff. I agree with all the things you are saying. I think part of all great artists work is an aspect of the magic trick... or at least making us see what they want us to see.
I think Kim Jung Gi is a great example because he obviously has the skills and you can see from his teaching that he has a great grasp on the fundamentals. But he is also really good at leaning into the performance side of it.
I remember reading the late John Buscema say that people often start drawing too soon... I think he said he would sometimes just sit and look at the blank page for a while. or close his eyes... and then imagine what he was going to do first.
... So obviously some people have a natural or cultivated ability to visualise the initial steps a better than others. :)
The key for the beginner is to look at how these great artists got there in the first place. What did they learn in the first place to allow them to get to that point.
Thanks again for your detailed comment and thoughts!!
Uh yeah.......
Hey, Tim, thank you for the content, it was very helpful. I'm actually struggling a lot with those thoughts on what we don't really get to see from the artists' work. That's the kind of advice that gives us more confidence! :)
Hey Lucas! Thanks! I'm glad this one was helpful!
Yeah it's a bit of a shame that today when sharing process is so easy people are going in the opposite direction a bit and hiding the less glamourous side of it :)
@@TheDrawingCodex Yeah, totally! A shame social media is never about the human side of things.
Nice drawing 👍👌😊
Thanks!! :)
This is gold, Tim!
thank you for sharing it with us!
Hey Del! No worries! I'm glad you liked it!
Oh man I hate this lol. I only realized this acctually just this year and I am incorporating it in my drawings now
brrruh! RIP KIM! 😢
Can't you use photoshop on ipad pro?
Hello, I am very interested in your line and colour course, but I am spanish and my english isn,t very good. The course have subtitles, at least in english?. Thank you
Hey Oscar! Unfortunately no there are no subtitles on the course. It's something I can look into but the Line and Color course is quite large, so it will be something that would take some time to figure out. My apologies. That is a great idea and something I should look into. But send me an email to tim @ thedrawingcodex dot com straight away and I will sort something out for you.
You have talent! My advice, do more shorter videos about 5 mins long, do more of showing and less talking.
You are not the first to suggest this ;) I think I am a long form creator at heart though. Compared to a 4 hour lecture I used to give this seems like going at warp speed. But yeah I could make them more snappy overall.
This is all nice but when I look at the analytics of the top “drawing” RUclipsrs they don’t talk during videos unless they are creating something at the same time. My advice to you is showcase the art and the art process instead of you and your studio. I think the information is valid but I get bored watching you like a podcast instead of watching you like a visual medium professional. I do seem to learn from you the best of my top five but that’s only when I see you drawing instead of talking to the screen. Jazza, Proko, etc….for them art = views. Your numbers are lower even while having similar skills. Why is that? I think I just explained. Again I’m a fan so I’m trying to help. More art…..less personal testimonials unless it’s over ….creating art.
I don’t think it’s necessary to copy and paste what everyone else is doing solely for views. Tim’s content is different from other creators and that’s why it’s special in my opinion, he has such a wealth of knowledge and I love his delivery of said knowledge.