Gotta love it when the credits start rolling but there is still like a minute left on the time bar. Ya know there will be some more funny shit coming up.
met you guys today while I was working, went home sanded my facelift bumper primed it did some boging fixed a coilover on my friends subaru and installed a strut brace on my mates r33 talk about insane motivators you guys rule and always will hope to see you guys back at super cheap while your still in NZ
This and the previous episodes were awesome! Can't wait to see what else you guys can achieve with more supporting mods and tuning, love the work gentlemen keep it up! (that's what she said)
Custum chip tuning that powerful? Kinda astonished here, mates. Thats some very professional work Lachlan/Ben are doing. Unlike most "tuning garages" out there
Sideways hat Wayside hat Wayside school Wayside school is random cartoon Why did I watch as kid nobody knows I might be sideways potato hamburger explosion nothing makes sense goodbye pancake launcher
Oh man. You got me so good. I'll admit that I was suspicious that you were trolling, but I wasn't sure, and still had me convinced for quite a while. You seriously land yourself in my books of top trolls of all time. My hat off to you sir.
One of the best episodes yet. You guys just keep getting better. I laughed my ass off and it was awesome to see the Moogaru make that kind of power. Bring it on now, Cressida.
It's been a while since I've been genuinely excited over a car video heh.. this episode had me on the edge of my seat.. felt almost like I was Moog watching my baby get juiced up. Can't wait to see what's next for the Forrester.. great series, I'm looking forward to the next installment as much as I look forward to the next episode of Top Gear. Never been a big Subaru fan other than STi's, but I love the Moogaru, awesome car.
+PseudoKirby You see, if I would have said that, you wouldn't have cared. But since this person commented and has a profile picture of a girl, you're gonna be nice to her in the hopes that you are gonna get laid. Problem is that your chance in getting laid over a comment like that is 148,958.99 to 1. Why try? you're being nice to someone who will completely ignore you and go on with their day not even thinking about your comment you posted out of the kindness of your heart.
+PseudoKirby You see, if I would have said that, you wouldn't have cared. But since this person commented and has a profile picture of a girl, you're gonna be nice to her in the hopes that you are gonna get laid. Problem is that your chance in getting laid over a comment like that is 148,958.99 to 1. Why try? you're being nice to someone who will completely ignore you and go on with their day not even thinking about your comment you posted out of the kindness of your heart.
The 169KW is measured at the flywheel which translates to about 125kw at the wheels. The 182kw they got at the end of the video is also measured at the wheels so the engine itsself is probably making 220-230kw at the flywheel.
Just doing a check through on the Season 4 playlist, and I don't see where the turbo upgrade video is. The vid before this (electric superchargers) says it's after that vid, and this vid says it was just done. Wondering why it isn't in the playlist. -__-
I have 2015 forester xt just got a pro tune all finished up and it pushing 300 hp at 21 pounds of boost. This puppy fly's like the wind now all I need is a 6 speed manual sti transmission to slap in and I can get a bigger turbo to make it go choo choo even more!!
I also think they make weird hp generally in MCM so to say. In Denmark for instance the Forester 2.5 XT makes 225hp stock, and yeah the WRX STi makes 305hp. :|
Yes I'm 100% sure. Just like my brothers BMW 525i LCI (218hp stock) was dyno to 221hp, and my friends civic type r (201hp stock) was dynoed to 203hp. They've always matched the numbers from the factory... except ofcourse if it has like 400.000km and is really "tired" ofc it would lose some hp. I don't know if they get different models in Australia than eu?
You can do that buy getting a stronger spring in your forge 007 diverter valve and adjusting the rod from the wastegate solenoid to the flapper on the wastegate if it's internally gated. Or take the top vacuum line off and prevent the wastegate from opening if you want to be stupid and destroy your turbo from the compressor surge
Awesome video, still clearly remember my first ride after exhaust+custom reflash job in 2007 with my03 sti. Subaru stock ecu and almost free tools to play with are just more than I need.
At 4:37, I hope that was a slip of the tongue. You lose gauge pressure because the small turbo can't provide the flow rate. The large turbo can provide higher flow rate, therefore maintains gauge pressure. The two turbos aren't providing the same boost pressure, that's why there are gains
Got to say too .. went to cut out right on the credits but had to come back (yet again) for the magic music 'yet again' … great stuff fellas (love your work) … But when oh when are you going to big turbo anything on big bikes ?
Not necessarily. If you upgrade the right parts and or use a conservative tune it wont hurt the engine at all. But you do have to do things like run higher octane gas and change your oil, spark plugs, belts, preventative maintenance stuff more often.
I have a 2006 Ford Falcon 6 cylinder that does 180kw stock and it cost me $10,000 4 years ago. Plus it's a proper road car and this means the handling is much better.
this test was done at the wheels, you lose power in all cars due to drag, friction in the drivetrain. they got 180kw at the wheels that is fast.... they weigh around the same as a wrx sti as well. tho then u dont get the features of a wrx sti like dccd, and other features to make it handle better etc but this is a practical daily drive as well.. as the guy said he is working with real people for real driving
Before anyone gets on their high horse, i've always been on the understanding the more bhp you "squeeze" out of an engine the less life the engine will have compared to it's original power? Anyway, very nicely done :)
depends on who you know.. full retail could be close to a grand or more depending on whether or not you have a stand alone or if you are tuning the factory ecu.
Your guys made some "tricks" at 9:29 ;) I tell you how: When you brake a little bit during a dyno run you increase the "power dissipation" (which should be around 25-30% on an AWD if everything is working properly) . The big shown numbers on a good dyno = "power @ the wheels" + "power dissipation". Now do the math ;)
at 6:57, you can see the brake lights come on. i assumed that dynos work by doing the power run, then letting the car spool down on the dyne to calculate mechanical drag (resistance?). wouldn't dragging the brakes skew the resistance calculated by the dyno and make the power figure higher?
i was under the impression that dynos let the wheels freewheel slowdown to determine resistance than apply that to the power figure to factor in how much engine power is spent turning the running gear, then adding that to the wheel horsepower figure, which is why 200whp is more than 200hp
no, the difference is where it is measured. the factory measures HP while developing the engine, so the the dyno is connected to the crank directly. Wheel dynos measure the power delivered to the wheels. slowing has no impact on this measurement. the drive line is connected during the power run, so there is no calculation needed to figure out losses.
No the ecu won't lose the tune if its reset. There is a tuning mode that you can use that will do that but it will lose everything and will not go to stock. It wont even crank. Not exactly sure why you would want to do that though. But no it won't reset in the mode they used.
two smaller turbos will spin up faster but run out of boost before one huge one would, but one huge one would take longer to spool up. depends on your application as to which is better.
Not if you know what you're doing you won't. A stock mk5 GTI has a compression ratio of 10.5:1 and runs somewhere in the range of 14 psi from the factory. Or as another poster pointed about, 28 PSIA.
Oh, I know mate. I still bought one because I just love the gorgeous form and lines of the 5th gen Prelude. Much better than a Civic. If I had enough money I would have gotten an S2000. If Nissan would have imported the S15 to the states. That would have been my car. ;D
"and Marty knows the drive ability of soccer moms."
+Mew Wew Foot Ball Mums'*
+Mew Wew Poor Cheryl.
That's a pretty impressive gain, especially gaining 50kw at the low end of the rev range, that would make it a totally different beast to drive
247hp from 170hp..That's pretty darn good..
On the wheels too👍🏻
Im no car guru but definitely recommend this channel for entertainment. Im definitely slapping that sub button, Keep up the good work +Mightycarmods
Gotta love it when the credits start rolling but there is still like a minute left on the time bar. Ya know there will be some more funny shit coming up.
The Moogaru was the reason I got into MCM. When I was looking to get some power out of my 2010 Forrester xt turbo
Wish I could find a jolly tuner like this dude out here in the states
+lrnlrn lol yeah right every tunner is a dick head
Irnirn You could try PFI Speed near Loveland, CO. They have their own channel: PFISpeed
met you guys today while I was working, went home sanded my facelift bumper primed it did some boging fixed a coilover on my friends subaru and installed a strut brace on my mates r33 talk about insane motivators you guys rule and always will hope to see you guys back at super cheap while your still in NZ
"and marty knows all about the drivability of soccer moms" hahahaha
This and the previous episodes were awesome! Can't wait to see what else you guys can achieve with more supporting mods and tuning, love the work gentlemen keep it up! (that's what she said)
I’ve just binged watched this whole series. Now want a forester.
Finally more videos on your Subaru Forester XT , I actually like the car and I want to see how the "Final Build" will perform and look like !
I think these official playlists need updating :( missing heaps of episodes
Custum chip tuning that powerful? Kinda astonished here, mates.
Thats some very professional work Lachlan/Ben are doing. Unlike most "tuning garages" out there
Just looking for comments about that guy's sideways hat
Sideways hat
Wayside hat
Wayside school
Wayside school is random cartoon
Why did I watch as kid
nobody knows
I might be sideways
potato
hamburger
explosion
nothing makes sense
goodbye pancake launcher
***** God speed you magnificant son of a bitch.
+Calvin Stevens Sideways hats are are intelegence adjusters. IQ drops in proportion to the amount of degrees hat is turned
Brian Stoner I have seen people who have turned their hat more than 360 degrees and even let the hat fall off their head entirely
Lmao
Oh man. You got me so good. I'll admit that I was suspicious that you were trolling, but I wasn't sure, and still had me convinced for quite a while. You seriously land yourself in my books of top trolls of all time. My hat off to you sir.
You should have posted a 'first drive' reaction video. :)
One of the best episodes yet. You guys just keep getting better. I laughed my ass off and it was awesome to see the Moogaru make that kind of power. Bring it on now, Cressida.
Ahh the days before covid when you could hug your tuner.
I have a 2010 forester xt with intake, intecooler, exhaust, vf52 and fuel pump and got 192kw I was pretty happy
that s13 in the back mhmmm memories huh moog
Everyday I fall deeper in love with Subaru's and it's community. Congrats on incredible power gains!
All we'll drive baby!
Where is the turbo swap vid? In the playlist it goes from the electric supercharger, to this.
It's been a while since I've been genuinely excited over a car video heh.. this episode had me on the edge of my seat.. felt almost like I was Moog watching my baby get juiced up. Can't wait to see what's next for the Forrester.. great series, I'm looking forward to the next installment as much as I look forward to the next episode of Top Gear.
Never been a big Subaru fan other than STi's, but I love the Moogaru, awesome car.
Ah, the joys of lactose intolerance.
5:51
my heart jumped a little when I saw this video at the top of my page... love your work!
Ah tuning, just like overclocking only for cars instead of computers.
Lol hell yeah
+Megan Arrington you seem well informed. thats wonderful
+PseudoKirby You see, if I would have said that, you wouldn't have cared. But since this person commented and has a profile picture of a girl, you're gonna be nice to her in the hopes that you are gonna get laid. Problem is that your chance in getting laid over a comment like that is 148,958.99 to 1. Why try? you're being nice to someone who will completely ignore you and go on with their day not even thinking about your comment you posted out of the kindness of your heart.
+PseudoKirby You see, if I would have said that, you wouldn't have cared. But since this person commented and has a profile picture of a girl, you're gonna be nice to her in the hopes that you are gonna get laid. Problem is that your chance in getting laid over a comment like that is 148,958.99 to 1. Why try? you're being nice to someone who will completely ignore you and go on with their day not even thinking about your comment you posted out of the kindness of your heart.
well no, never thought of it before in the context of that analogy, and no I can guarantee I will never ever sleep with this Megan person.
The 169KW is measured at the flywheel which translates to about 125kw at the wheels. The 182kw they got at the end of the video is also measured at the wheels so the engine itsself is probably making 220-230kw at the flywheel.
Just doing a check through on the Season 4 playlist, and I don't see where the turbo upgrade video is. The vid before this (electric superchargers) says it's after that vid, and this vid says it was just done. Wondering why it isn't in the playlist. -__-
STAG162 watch?v=A2Po7fMbO_A
Good work on the car it's come a long way since day 1
180kw club? is that even a thing?
It's 315hp at the crank...that's a lot more than stock.
Its still horribly slow
Mark Rich Um
I have 2015 forester xt just got a pro tune all finished up and it pushing 300 hp at 21 pounds of boost. This puppy fly's like the wind now all I need is a 6 speed manual sti transmission to slap in and I can get a bigger turbo to make it go choo choo even more!!
More power than a stock STI? I thought the dyno said 245HP and STI's come with 305?
I also think they make weird hp generally in MCM so to say. In Denmark for instance the Forester 2.5 XT makes 225hp stock, and yeah the WRX STi makes 305hp. :|
you both need to know the differences between whp and bhp..
Yes, and my friends stock 2005 wrx sti makes 305hp on the dyno
Lasse Olsen are you positive it's stock? stock blob eye sti makes around 220-260 awhp on various dynos. Proofs can be found in numerous Subaru forums.
Yes I'm 100% sure. Just like my brothers BMW 525i LCI (218hp stock) was dyno to 221hp, and my friends civic type r (201hp stock) was dynoed to 203hp.
They've always matched the numbers from the factory... except ofcourse if it has like 400.000km and is really "tired" ofc it would lose some hp. I don't know if they get different models in Australia than eu?
WOW. When I get a new car, I seriously wanna personally talk to you guys about getting it to do some serious stuff. This is awesome.
I'm just chilling at 196kw on my stock commodore..
Yeah but it's a commodore haha
+jacob iversen I bet you'd still totally get chopped by the Mooby on the 1/4 mile
I'm just chilling at 200kw on my stock wrx
+Clifford R34 beaten plenty of those before ✌🏻
+jacob iversen ahaha and I've chopped many commies ✌🏽️
no body knows why mighty car mods is so amazing
I was lost through the whole video :|
Ricardo Sandoval What had you lost?
I lost the knowledge on cars I never had
they changed the limiters in the computer chips so it would run optimally
Sheryl would be very excited for a ride in this car after football practice!
stop talking in kilowatts, it's a damn engine! not a generator ¬_¬
alex cadenas Get the fuck out.... just leave.....
make me ¬_¬.!.
alex cadenas Learn what kilowatts are then you can flip me off kiddo.
I know what they are, I was just exclaiming my annoyance about something
meh, I don't feel like it.
"If this guy comes up, lock your doors and run "
Marty's facial expressions are gold!
Can't wait to see what you guys are gonna do next
I love how Lachlan is so jolly. Like a young Santa haha.
I think moog and marty should get an award for their epic dancing skills
You can do that buy getting a stronger spring in your forge 007 diverter valve and adjusting the rod from the wastegate solenoid to the flapper on the wastegate if it's internally gated. Or take the top vacuum line off and prevent the wastegate from opening if you want to be stupid and destroy your turbo from the compressor surge
Awesome video, still clearly remember my first ride after exhaust+custom reflash job in 2007 with my03 sti. Subaru stock ecu and almost free tools to play with are just more than I need.
Marty is just seeing how far he can push a soccer mum... Hello Cheryl.
Love this show....hands down best auto show around I reckon its better than topgear!!
At 4:37, I hope that was a slip of the tongue. You lose gauge pressure because the small turbo can't provide the flow rate. The large turbo can provide higher flow rate, therefore maintains gauge pressure. The two turbos aren't providing the same boost pressure, that's why there are gains
Just found this channel and love it! Great work!
wow, that forester is sick!
Congratz Moog!!
@mightycarmods Eric The Car Guy has been showing you alot of love on his youtube, Go MCM
Moog is obviously the Moog of the show...
Newly Subbed to this channel, Im so happy I did!
Stock STi has 305hp at the crank. Big difference from crank to wheels (about 15% usually, but probably around 20% for AWD). 305 - 20% = 244whp
that has to be the nicest forester i personallly have ever seen :)
started off with 125kw and added exhaust, and bigger turbo and remapped with ez flash tuner raising to 185kw. a 60kw increace which is awesome
Congrats on the power! I have a VF43 waiting to go in my Forester XT as well. :)
best trent impersonation ever by marty, was heaps good!
There is never enough MCM in my life
I miss seeing yous work on this beautiful car
wow,love your videos! this is the kind of show australian top gear should have been
i am watching you all the way from Croatia
MOOG is a composer and music producer in Australia.
Got to say too .. went to cut out right on the credits but had to come back (yet again) for the magic music 'yet again' … great stuff fellas (love your work) … But when oh when are you going to big turbo anything on big bikes ?
Not necessarily. If you upgrade the right parts and or use a conservative tune it wont hurt the engine at all. But you do have to do things like run higher octane gas and change your oil, spark plugs, belts, preventative maintenance stuff more often.
Very Impressed by your results..
Now take it back down the quarter and let us know how you go, I bet there will be a huuuuge improvements over before.
I have a 2006 Ford Falcon 6 cylinder that does 180kw stock and it cost me $10,000 4 years ago.
Plus it's a proper road car and this means the handling is much better.
there's a misunderstanding here the top of the exhaust downpipe is the bellmouth part and the system should be 3" full system from the turbo back.
this test was done at the wheels, you lose power in all cars due to drag, friction in the drivetrain.
they got 180kw at the wheels that is fast.... they weigh around the same as a wrx sti as well.
tho then u dont get the features of a wrx sti like dccd, and other features to make it handle better etc but this is a practical daily drive as well.. as the guy said he is working with real people for real driving
Lachlan did the tune on my car, here on the gold coast. he rules!
best channel on youtube
More Forester updates, please!
You guys are great and so informative 👍
wow 245hp at the wheels is damn nice! that car looks fresh!
He is the funny guy. He edits and he is Marty's friend.
Damn they have come a long way.
That gentleman's beard was soooo EPIC!!
Before anyone gets on their high horse, i've always been on the understanding the more bhp you "squeeze" out of an engine the less life the engine will have compared to it's original power?
Anyway, very nicely done :)
depends on who you know.. full retail could be close to a grand or more depending on whether or not you have a stand alone or if you are tuning the factory ecu.
Turn captions on, go to 1:12... GRAVY EPISODE!!! I AGREE!!!!
Your guys made some "tricks" at 9:29 ;) I tell you how: When you brake a little bit during a dyno run you increase the "power dissipation" (which should be around 25-30% on an AWD if everything is working properly) . The big shown numbers on a good dyno = "power @ the wheels" + "power dissipation". Now do the math ;)
at 6:57, you can see the brake lights come on. i assumed that dynos work by doing the power run, then letting the car spool down on the dyne to calculate mechanical drag (resistance?). wouldn't dragging the brakes skew the resistance calculated by the dyno and make the power figure higher?
... What? The slowing down has nothing to do with the hp and torque a car makes by accelerating
i was under the impression that dynos let the wheels freewheel slowdown to determine resistance than apply that to the power figure to factor in how much engine power is spent turning the running gear, then adding that to the wheel horsepower figure, which is why 200whp is more than 200hp
no, the difference is where it is measured. the factory measures HP while developing the engine, so the the dyno is connected to the crank directly. Wheel dynos measure the power delivered to the wheels. slowing has no impact on this measurement. the drive line is connected during the power run, so there is no calculation needed to figure out losses.
Welcome to RUclips!
damn. wish I lived there. wouldn't mind my turbo being upgraded by these guys
Missed that part! I had paused it and watched it when I got back home.
I thought you were talking about the XT being an STi.
Lol you guys are really cool and your show is awesome! Great car info too!! Keep it going.
Cheers from Miami , FL US.
That S13 in the back looked so damn sick.
Lachlan has the most epic beard I have seen in quite a while.
What another MCM its my lucky day! Maaaaaaad!!!!
No the ecu won't lose the tune if its reset. There is a tuning mode that you can use that will do that but it will lose everything and will not go to stock. It wont even crank. Not exactly sure why you would want to do that though. But no it won't reset in the mode they used.
really good episode guys!
damn MCM u need to be in BBC or tv channels
Mighty Car Mods moog got an itch? and an eye patch? 2:40 in the wing mirror?
love the end of the vid with the bogen voice gold need to do an ep just doing that voice. yeah i like cars heaps sick aaaaaa
Why would anyone give this a thumbs down, I mean seriously...
If you guys are going to sema this year, I totally want to have a drink with ya
two smaller turbos will spin up faster but run out of boost before one huge one would, but one huge one would take longer to spool up.
depends on your application as to which is better.
Not if you know what you're doing you won't. A stock mk5 GTI has a compression ratio of 10.5:1 and runs somewhere in the range of 14 psi from the factory. Or as another poster pointed about, 28 PSIA.
i am impressed, my subaru wrx my99 has similar mods and goes very nicely too!
Oh, I know mate. I still bought one because I just love the gorgeous form and lines of the 5th gen Prelude. Much better than a Civic. If I had enough money I would have gotten an S2000. If Nissan would have imported the S15 to the states. That would have been my car. ;D
Correct. It wasn't named skyline as it lacked the famous straight six engine layout.