Why a China Space Race is a Good Thing
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2021
- While a cold-war scenario has dangerous political and economic implications, a race deeper into the cosmos, like any good rivalry, could be a huge benefit for space and other industries.
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so you basically need to set up an enemy to motivate yourself and draw more investment.
'murica
Something wrong with human nature.
now I feel like this is the definition of competition?
Sounds about right
That is generally how it works...
Sorry there's no race - China's space program was planned decades ago and has been making progress just at its own pace.
Here are your 50 cents
@Random Autonomous Drone Pilot But all of China's missions have been planned for decades there was no intention of "beating" the US
@@samdragon40 What's wrong with you? Just saying trash words before seeing the video?
@@samdragon40 Some of you being mad for what? He just simply states a fact that China doesn't want to compete with the US and it's working at it's own pace. Lmao you guys literally just get pissed of being ignore by China and start insulting others. Lol
@@Dou_Y "Stop ignoring me!" - sounds like an angry housewife.
America will immediately become no.1 in space force if someone tell them space has oil
Fun fact: Saturn's moon Titan has large "seas" of hydrocarbons - that is as close to oil as you can get.
@@HalNordmann america:interesting
@@HalNordmann That’s why they sent Cassini, hmmm interesting.
Hahaha
Not really; just tell them that the Russians are coming back to Space, and that ought to get the US government printing more QE monies to fund their Space programs.
US: banned China from ISS
China : developed its own SS
US: you started a war!
Russia : 🙄
world : 👀🍿 👀🥤
lol
Poor China is bullied
Let's see how would you react if China conquers the world.
Let's see how would they treat your family members or you.
@@micahbell7840 conquer the world? Ur out of ur mind dude
@@EsKimoS0 you don't have any idea Hahaha
China doesn’t consider itself in a space race with USA.
No matter what USA does, China just do what it plans, according to schedule
It’s naive to think that they’re turning a blind eye to the most powerful country in Earth and their main competitor. Every expanding nation must pay close attention to their foreign adversaries if they wish to gain an advantage in the global system.
When you are in a race you are blind to many other things. The most important thing for Chinese government is still raise people's living standard. China has planned to land a man on the moon after 2030. It's absolutely not in a race with USA which plan to go back to moon next year.
yeah.. that's why their first private company was called "iSpace" 😁 does that ring a western bell?
ridiculous argument
@Apeman Commeth Fun fact: If you go to Endia 🇮🇳 you'll see lots of dirty disgusting stinky slums
Thus far, the biggest difference between the US and China is that China sticking to their own plan laid down 15 years ago. Whereas the US gets a new plan every 4 to 8 years, depending on the presidency of that time.
Having went through the space race 1.0, the US should have a better understanding that space programmes can last longer than one Administration.
The US has had roughly the same plan for a while. The thing that keeps sliding is the timeline. Basically it went: retire the Space Shuttle in 2012, land on an astroid, return to the moon, build the gateway, retire the ISS, get to Mars by 2030.
US is kind stick with the PLAN. Use the economic privilege, US dollar, to sanction other country.
Most case, this works well, like Japan, Russian and many more other countries.
@@willqin4628 The problem with trying to beat China at that trade relations is what has made China last so long.
Well, most of the first Space Race (if we count it up until the first moon landing in 1969) occurred on the Democratic administrations of Kennedy and LBJ (which were relatively similar when it came to NASA), with Kennedy being the one who claimed to want a man on the moon by the end of the 1960s, which he did not live to see
Only the initial fumbling was under Eisenhower's Republican administration, and the final wrap-up (as most of the work had been done by then) was under Nixon. There wasn't much changing of plans during that period
@Anthony Q Guess where Apple and Google products are assembled 😅
The next 10 years might become the most important years of humanity yet.
Provided Humans are still around roaming Mother Earth looking for Dragons to Slay.
sittin on the toilet
@@donhuang9855 China is the ultimate Dragon and always has been.
Leaving my comment here to see it once again after 10 years.
@@KRYMauL The "totem"/icon of the Chinese culture is dragon, so it make sense.
However not the lizards in western culture, but the celestial dragons in eastern culture
If America needs an enemy to push its society, this society is in trouble.
Well..... Not really
Why you always want to have an enemy? Just leave us Chinese alone! We don’t need your democracy. When we become rich enough, we will force our government to make the transition without your “help”.
@Nicholas Parker we would like to help liberate the black people in America. How about that? They seem so helpless.
@Nicholas Parker embarrassing.
@Nicholas Parker insecure.
8:38 china builds its own spacestation because china got banned from ISS in 2011
open all your core technology knowledge to all asian nations, and we will defend you on UN Space vote
@@NextFuckingLevel who knows human heart?
because they were caught stealing
@@mohit5496 yeah stealing even before allowed in. The Chinese must be genius
@@gadzadhamgaacaan8488 to be fair that was already more than 10 years ago.
We all know China was and still is corrupt yet not as much as before Xi Jinping's anti corruption plans.
You can never generalize China as it alone comprises of billions in population.
when will the US walk out of the Cold War? The Russians gave them PTSD
When the cold war stops being the thing that put the U.S.A. on top of the world
The cold war never ended the US became ignorant of its enemies because of continuous success. Which gave time for China and Russia to catch up.
@@philipmolina1114 no
Russia has been worried about European invasion for a long time now. Nazi's gave them hysterical rape syndrome
I’m pretty sure the Russians are suffering from the same thing, considering how much they love to blame nato and the west for anything that goes wrong
I think the main problem is that in China, they view it as a slow pace development in space construction. While USA view this as a "Race". China is not really rushing it. They are spending tini tiny little money in space agencies.
To give credit to China, they have a much more consistent, realistic effort in space.
The US has had its space endeavors stifled by administrations flipping back and forth. George W Bush says let's go back to the Moon. Obama says let's go to Mars. Trump says let's go back to the Moon.
Thankfully, private companies like SpaceX are finally releasing NASA from its horrible political shackles, and will enable a great deal of innovation and discovery.
Yeap~ We go to the space , because we want to, we plan to, we need to~ How ever, It seems that US go to the space because the Ussr and China~ We act what we act~ In chinese :你打你的，我打我的～
@@magicx7129 Your statement makes no sense since we’re planning on going to back and o the Moon then Mars.
The 5-year planning project has been working well, proven successful from the economic wonders that China achieved. So this is no surprise.
The United States forbids China to join the International Space Station
China has to develop space on its own
Then the United States comes to the conclusion that China is not willing to obey the United States
The westerners always look and interpret China in their own way and culture, just like I thought this is the reason why you did so, so this must be the reason. They are so pissed off, or jealous, or frightened because of China has achieved so much without taking their advices. So China has to be the country which stole, cheap, untrustworthy, etc, in order to make it an enemy. Funny thing, you can check the history and tell how many Non-western countries are really successful after they took the advices from western, check what happened in russia in the 1990s, check what happened in middle east, in east europe, in south america, in africa. They must have realized that China is successful is because China didn't take these 'warm and nice ' advices from western. So China has to be doomed.
When US space land on the moon, China clapped.
When China launch space to the moon, US jealous
I thought China's landing on the far side of the Moon was rather impressive, actually. I also look forward to their upcoming space station in the next few years.
This video makes space seem like such a big rivalry, but really, since 1975 when the space race formally ended, spaceflight has been a mostly peaceful pursuit.
I congratulate and cheer on the efforts of any country or company that peacefully wishes to promote spaceflight.
Who the fuck claps for the last runner in the race who’s half a century late to the finish line?
@M W Second in humanity for what? They still haven’t gotten people to the moon yet.
@M W USSR is second actually
@@srs6461 so?
race! what race!? China just does their own things. National security can't be outsourced.
Hardworking kid in the class: study hard to improve himself.
Smart and rich kid in the class: that nerd is bringing a race! How dare him! Let me end him before he’s better than me!
fact!
Not necessarily “smart” and rich....
idk why western media always like to report some great human achievements into an aggressive and sensitive message and try to raise some antagonistic sentiments between countries. I think China and US are both doing a great job, and these achievements belong to all human. The world should be united.
Does China have a choice when it is being excluded from the space program lead by US.?
I mean all China will do is copy and leave
@@Student0Toucher sounds like a simple job according to you
@@Student0Toucher BTW, if you learned anything related to rocket science or engineering in the Uni, you would know, the "copy" in the space program is nothing but a joke, come on, still believe in the western media? Grow up
@@Student0Toucher if copy and paste is that easy, how come other countries are not doing it? I'm sure they all want a piece of the pie. You idiot.
@@franklinshen467 Yeah its a simple job to geniuses just ask Russia how China copies all its weapons lmao
I notice a perspective difference here here. USA is seeing this as a Race, whereas China is seeing this as USA afraid of losing its spot from technology.
lol its true
u can see spacex carrying usa
@Random Autonomous Drone Pilot .if that makes you happier...you can think that way
@@jasons4045 alot of IP is stolen by china. Aerospace tech that could be used for military development, so ofc they don't want rising power to have that technology. If you have ever dealt with chinese manufacturing you would know, they don't give a fuck about restricted patents, trade secrets etc. The moment they get any tech, it will be copied and rebranded. Combine that with cheap labor that's abundant in china and you get the picture why noone really trusts them. Especially with such high tech
While using one of the most simple and harmful propulsion systems and dropping them on their citizens homes.
the basic logic from this video: we will win because we are democracy. i still dont hear specifically why
Chinese got manslaughterd on Tianmen Square because they don't have democracy
@@AshutoshNandanceo And lots of people died in America due to drugs, guns coz they have democrazy.
@@AshutoshNandanceo and the Indian farmers got mowed down by their own government because of "Democracy" lol what a silly and stupid f..ng comment.
@@virtutemodestia3477 Really mowed down ?
Where are you getting this from ? CCTV ?
@@AshutoshNandanceo Mohdi media...
As a Filipino, I know the Chinese, ethnic or nationals, are a very patient people. They'll do things in a slow pace, and the returns only show up and compound over a *long* period of time. This is the difference between the USA and China. The USA views everything as competition and a cut-throat race to the top. China is just doing everything at a sure pace. Looks like the US is just reacting to whatever China does, and the one who does the reacting frequently is the one who's gonna lose.
Wise words my friend. No matter how many times we explain to those in the western world they seem to never understand. We think whoever take this as a race is deep down very insecure.
I agree, kabayan .. (Y)
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@@indiasuperclean6969 印度宇宙最强
correct, it look like the china has a road map of what they would like to accomplish. the tiny project sims inline to a whole big masterpiece. this research will one day unleash what humans have never see, imagine or even dream off. so they are cleaver to counsel their grad project with tinny peaces.
I hope there won’t be too many proxy wars. Perhaps respectful competition can accelerate humanity forward but society could make great things not in the goal of putting others down
Well this isn't capitalism vs communism
It's Liberal Capitalism vs Authoratarian Capitalism
I don't know if they would coup authcap countries
@@roguegenesis7020 However, i still don't think China is any form of capitalism. A capitalism society's most essential part is the capital. Whoever own more capital would have more power and more influence, sometimes even larger than the government. As for China, more capital may give you more influence, but it would never give you more power than the government.
nobody want a respectful competition , the same as nobody want a fair fight in war . just ask your US troop do they like to fight fair with taliban without massive US land air sea support ? rifle , grenade , foots soldier only ? if they said no then that is how US want to fight china in every matter . one side ass drilling PVP is the best . cost less , easier , less time consume ...etc
Ha! cuz we already have enough proxy wars on earth already?
@Edgar Gomez idk. Beats trying to kill each other .
China's main advantage is the single party system, they can dedicate full resources of the state towards projects and there is no opposition to reverse those goals over the long run, the US flip flops every 4 to 8 years
In fact, there are many political parties in China however these parties are under the leadership of the Communist Party, so there will not be the same party struggle as in Western countries. The members of these other parties are all elites from all walks of life who make policies together with the Communist Party. So China's policy plans can be made for decades or even a hundred years. China's party system is very special and your western media never wants to tell you the truth
Western liberal democracy is an albatross around their neck. Their dogmatic adherence to it will be their undoing.
@@horridohobbies and their constant efforts to spread it around the world even if it fails will harm their reputation in the long run which is already happening with the failures of the middle east.
@@user-cu5fb1jm6f I think once China becomes more like Singapore with a dash of South Korea, the West will appreciate it more.
@@KRYMauL I have a question that bothers me, why China wants the West to appreciate her. We and you are two completely different cultures, so why should China change its culture, which has been inherited for 5000 years, to suit you. Do you want the Chinese government to go against the wishes of 1.4 billion Chinese people to cater to Western culture and values? According to your logic, it makes sense for the West to change its values and culture to cater to China, which has a fifth of the world's population.
To China:
You have been our best student so far. You have out-performed your teacher. We are proud of you.
We have lost to America and let capitalism take over us. Please learn from our mistakes and be independent.
China please carry on. Please turn the spark into a flame, spread the seeds around and finish our dream.
Who is the teacher of China?
Obey your command. my great master - Soviet Union.
heard you there my friend, loud and clear!
Comrade. I commend you.
3 types of people commenting here:
1. Non-Chinese. There's only a small number of these. They show curiosity, show humor, show decency though from time to time trash Made in China because buying junks from Walmart is their only experience about China.
2. Panda-hugging Chinese. They express cautious optimism, such as talking about how China planned their space program decades ahead. They know China maybe because most of them grew up in China.
3. Anti-China Chinese. They troll and attack everything in China. They openly dream the day the West would destroy China. They try everything to show their submission to their West masters. They keep telling their West masters that China would fail the next year, always the very next year.
based
America will decline as the powers of its government go through Mao style purge of all Trump supporters. Huge amounts of talent and labor will be shoved out of the economy.
America innovates well but is now more worried about political power and control than peace and prosperity for all of its citizens.
Ture dude
People being tribalistic ? I'm shocked!
Even countries need competition to do what's best for the country and people
yea not at the cost of holding the US back... and giving china headstart after headstart
Competition is what humans thrives for, we wouldn’t be to where we are now without competition
@@Shomerful *Talking about China "innovation" - **9:05** showing Foxconn - the US showing NASA - haha that is the "US Bloomberg document" for you 👍*
But US seems to see it as a threat.
@@barryjohnlcs9829 everything and anything other countries do US sees it as a threat lol
US gave "The Chinese Exclusion Policy of NASA" April 2011, which left China no other options but building the entire Aerospace system itself.
Chinese doesn't care about any space race, it just focuses on its own development.
hilarious!
The US was afraid of China copying their space technology like China copied the Soyuz spacecraft and other Russian jets
@@009Fahim us did the right thing by pushing China to reach it's potential.
@@009Fahim China pays licensing fees, just as how Chinese companies pay licensing and patient fees to US companies.
@@guangyang547 nah, my random russian dude says otherwise
About 30+ years ago, the Chinese navy got cut off from GPS navigation in South China Sea when performing operations. The military mission failed as a result. That made China's mind of building their own GPS system. Today, the Chinese version of GPS - Bei 北 Dou 斗 literally means The Big Dipper, the constellation.
@Anthony Q also now. Don't forget that this is a country that built its own nuclear bombs in the 1960s。
It's China's fault really
Same with India
@@yuhgdhg2768 India developed nuclear weapons to end assassinations of Prime Ministers by the CIA, they literally killed 2 prime ministers
USA: Lets invest in space to earn profit, we got NASA, SpaceX, Starlink, US Space Force and more!
China: We can profit from investing in space!
USA: Hey thats illegal!
USA stays on top by putting others down.
@@frozzytango9927 im not a american nationalist but CHINA IS THE WORLDS DYSTOPIA ITS PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED THINKING CHINA IS THE BEST AND IM NOT EVEN SAYING THAT AMERICA IS THE BEST!
@@gerardanderson9665 I presume you've never been to China, then. It would change your mind.
@@gerardanderson9665 可怜的被洗脑者就是你自己
@@gerardanderson9665 Would say it with a lot less shouting, but I agree.
Plot twist, they're only going back to the moon to recover Sentinel
And the pillars
Transformers reference?
@@zaktabyte yup
HAHHAA
Sikes
The West thinks of China through its own logics.
If you dominate the world in a few hundred years, you'll end up being like the west: living in their own bubble, considering everything outside "less-civilized".
@Ocean Wave lets just hope they keep thinking that way in few hundred years. 😂
@@oceanwave4502 they literally already do that
Logic is like the laws of physics. Universal everywhere. The West thinks of China from it's own perspective, is what you mean. And that perspective is more and more about competition and China being an opponent, rather than co-operation. Look at the ISS. We have a space station where nearly every nation is working together. Then China comes along and refuses to work with the rest of the world. What the hell is that?
@@PresidentialWinner US banned China to participate in ISS
China is actually very open. The problem is that not many people understand Chinese. If you read Chinese news paper or news online in Chinese media daily, you would see how open Chine is. So the solution is: learn Chinese. Do not simply say China is not open to deny China completely.
it's always so funny to see these "experts" with no math and physics knowledge talking about high tech and innovations
Gotta give a huge respect to Russia
They did what we thought was impossible at the time and keeping goings further
Yes russia now helping secretly it's alliance,China
People you don't understand what is really happening in terms of global geopolitics. In fact it is not only about geopolitics anymore. Is more about ethnicity and cultural geopolitics. Han Chinese people are known to be extremely xenophobic. Their country has been known to be the Hermit Middle Kingdom for centuries due to their belief of China being the Center of the World and enclosing themselves from the rest of the world. Right now China has a population of about 1.4 billion people in comparison with the United States which only has 320 million people or something like that. It is known that in the entire world 1 of each 10 people is Han Chinese. The United States and Europe could eventually collapse due to unsustainable migration from poorer countries and neither China, South Korea or Japan as a considerable amount of foreign population living in their respective territories because they don't allow it (It's not acceptable in their culture). Not like in the United States or Europe. Speaking about Chinese culture they worship money. It is all about the money. It is considered casual in China to compare salary incomes with another Chinese person in order to date or to know which person is a better one. Money and opulence simply makes you a better person. The richer you are the worthier you are. What do you think will happen when China obtains global hegemony and starts to invade all surrounding countries for plundering and territorial annexation? They are already sending satellites into space in order to spy surrounding countries. Its going to become either a genocide or an apartheid. It is already happening in Xinjiang. Uyghurs live in some districts apart from those where Han Chinese live to discrimination. look for information.
@@karonga629 3.4 billion Chinese population you say? Does that include INDIA somehow? 😂 even China-india combined don't make up that number. Let's not talk about other disgustingly stupid points you just made
@@LaowaiDaveJCP I meant to say 1.4 billion. Now it is fixed.
@@LaowaiDaveJCP The only stupid a.s.s.h.o.l.e. here is your w.u.m.a.o. A.S.S.
Go China and US, make humanity proud!
i cant be proud of countries that do genocide and imperialism
@@MrHL5 American here, and I fully agree. Not 100% proud of how we are currently doing.
@@MrHL5 Sorry we apologize for our crimes in the middle east and south america
@@jjtc6881 AND DO YOU APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR CRIMES IN ASIA , NORTH AMERICA , AFRICA ALSO ?
@@lishen6347 im one man i can only apologize so many Times 😔
The biggest problem of US space program, the coming collapse of US economy with debt in 2021 reach 30 trillion. How much budget can US spend on Space program?
The funny thing is we did not want to race with USA, but just focus on our own progress.
Your name has got copy from USA
@@ilham5221 LMAO，I use this name is just because your people do not know how to correctly pronounce my Chinese name.
@@CS-bl2sz Hahahaha, how ironic
@@CS-bl2sz hahahaha nice reply tho.. proud to see us knowing different languages even “their language” while these people are still not willing to open up to accept more things and weak enough to see China is a threat
Here are your 50 cents
In old China philosophy and teaching, they do not like to challenge people, to be more accurate, they don't even care how and what the West are doing, but instead they will seek improvement among themselves.. They have their own concept of open ecosystem which are different from the West.
I would have agreed with you if China were not invaded over and over since 1840...
Either it's no race or a race that's never gonna end this time!
Not necessarily. It will have an end eventually. The first space race went one for 40 years. I’m sure tons of people felt like it would never end. But it did.
@@brianisme6498 because they started working together.
China thinks this as part of infrastructure and will keep investing it. If China goes well, this race is not gonna end. I sincerely hope so.
Yeah, there is no clear goal. Even taking into account colonization of the solar system.
@@brianisme6498 i just hope this time it last for centurys
China: please let me do what I want lonely, Don't care what America does, just do what China want.
And let me steal your technology while I'm at it.
@@nelsonherrera1038 just like 5G, a new technology USA may have in the future but China just stole it from USA. Shame on China!
@@1271108227 have you heard of something called hacking? Didn’t some Chinese employees get caught sneaking chips out from t- mobile? That’s just one of few.
@@nelsonherrera1038 WOW! When it comes to hacking, USA is the champion!
@@jasperbudiono295 OMG, thank you for pointed it out!
The difference from back then and now is that, science is boring and lame now. It's more cool to just trust whatever media told us and blame others for all the problems
Annoying conspiritard.
I find information from China super transparent. It is just that the local western news agencies don't want to translate and report. Period.
Lmao
If they are too lazy to do research on their own fake news, how can we expect them to learn Chinese to read Chinese information? The one-way information flow is bad for both sides. We know too much about their ignorance and they still think they know everything.
@@dorsiewhitepaper4495 are you from China because RUclips is banned there lol. I don’t get the ignorance part. Hey I’ll be up there to admit that there have been a lot of information that is often presented in a guided way depending on where you look in western media but there is no censorship as long as you are not promoting hate speech or violence on most social media as they are private companies. I just think it’s disingenuous to say China is transparent with info I mean just look at COVID it came out that they have lied about early reporting. anyways just my take, no hate ✌️
The CNSA budget is like 1/20 of that of NASA. If the Chinese can meaningfully compete and catch up with the Americans in space technology with that little budget I say NASA's spending must be in serious clusterf**k
The reason NASAs budget is high because they pay their employees more than their international counterparts
NASA's budget is low compared with what the U.S. spent on its global military.
Your salary is also 5x times higher. How's your productivity?
If NASA's budget is already supposed to be a clusterfuck, what is the US military budget? It's 30 fucking times NASA's budget.
It's a difficult comparison, who's to say the Chinese pays their employees 1/20 to that of NASA. But I don't deny, NASA can be political at times, unfavourable for growth.
I'm actually far more excited than fear for this kind of competition, nearly all our technology came from the space programs.
Like US was ever transparent with the Blackbird till it got shoot down, the myth of stealth is since broken too.
There is no space race. All the missions has been planned for over 20 years
NASA's filing cabinets are full of projects that were planned 20, 30, 40 years ago and were abandoned at diverse stages of development for lack of funding. When I heard of Artemis, I thought "yet another project that will fizzle out" and pinned my hopes on private ventures like SpaceX. A space race will motivate politicians to really solve problems in education, research and infrastructure because it turns it into an existential issue. It also unites people in view of a common threat, real or perceived.
Fun fact: China's space program is very stable. That's an advantage of one-party states. In contrast, people in Europe worry Trump (or the likes) will return in 2024... and everything would turn upside-down again...
@ocean race
One party system?
That’s called a dictatorship but ok
Right
There is none
One-party systems can’t be a democracy since plurality does not take place at all
Somebody needs to tell these journalists that space is no longer own by the governments, its now a private market
Where private players gonna compete irrespective of their nationality
Private companies opened the door to cheap space launches but governments still determine the scope of science missions like rovers on mars or probes to Jupiter. Private companies have no reason to do these science missions because it doesn't directly lead them to profit
Investors & government go hand in hand.
@@lynxdiamond4888 *Talking about China "innovation" - **9:05** showing Foxconn - the US showing NASA - LMAO Haha that is the "US Bloomberg document" for you 👍*
@@mickkrever4084 chill dude
You mean, private companies repeat the steps government made, only this time for profit? Elon Musk only did what was done in 60's that is to lift some load 400km above the Earth. No way he'll spend his fortune to build infrastructure in space for future projects. It's up to NASA and other government space agencies.
A race in American imagination. Why western media so narrow minded? We all live in one planet afterall.
A healthy competition is all that mankind needs in all fields. Compete each other, but not play dirty to each other, to advance the technology.
you know you can do very adult, informative, deep, complex... report on developments in china
without forcing a "US vs. china" narrative on it, right?
but it goes against their narrative of pushing antichina propaganda...
If only the governments wished to go to space because of new discoveries of science instead of wealth
Well they aren't going for wealth either, they are going for power which is even worse
Why not both?
@@38josue91 wealth isn't bad but there ambition for wealth creates greeed
@@hehe7356 But at some point, space funding has to be self sustainable rather relaying only on taxpayers money. So, pvt. players can be roped in to do that, but what would be so rewarding to have make them billions of dollers of investments in long run, a driving force, an ultimate goel to achieve? That is in having developed the ability to tap on the vast resources laying in space, besides moving heavy industries out in space as envisioned by Jeff Bezos and developing self sustainable cities on Mars as plan B, as envisioned by Elon Musk.
@@AshishSingh-ut6fk I think that's kinda why space programs dedicated to exploration just die off when the competition gives up. There isn't any financial incentive to pursue them, especially the obscenely high cost of launching stuff into LEO.
So if the US is so "open" about information why not invite Chinese scientists to work together on these projects?
China obviously has enough talent to rival the worlds no. 1 superpower, which in turns borrows talent from around the Western world.
In a logical and idealistic world, both sides would combine intelligence and resources to achieve goals quicker.
For the US at least, it is indeed a race, not for the glory of humanity, but to maintain their own superiority and prevent themselves from being overtaken.
是的！
@Anthony Q The US never does anything for someone else's benefit lol. There is always something to be gained from their "helping", especially when it comes to foreign talent contributing to increasing their knowledge. China has always had great scientists and inventors throughout its thousands of years of history.
It's also worth noting that the US passed the "Chinese Exclusion Act" in 1882, discriminating against Chinese workers, because they worked harder for less than their jealous White colonist peers, thus making them more competitive in the mining job market. And this was not repealed until the 1940s.
The America of today is just repeating the realisation of fear and jealousy, currently trying to suppress the inevitable rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. If we look at China's history, great dynasties rise time and again, usually being the most wealthy and advanced of it's time. A feat not matched by any other civilization on Earth.
@Anthony Q Of course they do. They've been upfront about it from the start. China has always approached Africa with the mindset of business, respect, and mutual benefit. Unlike Western countries who butchered, enslaved and robbed Africa for hundreds of years. No matter what red herrings you throw, the truth of the matter is that the US has always been a genocidal self-serving user and abuser of other countries, and no amount of fake Hollywood hero movies can hide the reality from those who can think critically and intelligently for themselves.
@Anthony Q I live in the UK, England. Which country are you from? Your English is clearly broken, so I'm guessing Taiwan or India.
Love the illustrations. Keep up the work
what will also be interesting to see is whether that dynamism so crucial to innovation is able to sustain in an environment highly susceptible to political/socio-economical influences; whether these influences are a drag or catalyst to innovation, like he said, the jury is still out.
An issue with modern day America is that there is rising cohort of lack of critical thinkers... eg antivaxxers qanon and the like
How about this...?
War between US and China is the ultimate wish for all those who worry about global warming and climate change.
@@outterboxthinker no they would waste even more energy unless if your saying nuclear winter would fix global warming.
I think the issue is there have always been people all around the world that have been „special in thought“ , but now through the internet they can coordinate with each other and recruit new people. That’s what has nurchured and put to stenches to such groups.
The US has become dark ages nation
Not true, these new generations have are the most educated ones, the more crazy ones are the older milenials and boomers
USA: We are number one in Space
China: We do our own thing. You can stand on the podium all by yourself.
Still beating them in everything
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9:08 if you are curious what are the Characters means, it’s basically saying:” Unit the people of the world, Bravo!”
If the HK security law aiming to stop the thugs from their year-long Molotov cocktail throwing, cop killing, parliament burning, airport and subway vandalizing, senior citizen abusing were truly "controversial" like you said it was, the security law just imposed across the US because of the one-day protest by a 99% peaceful crowd would be an absolute outrage trembling on people's right to hold peaceful protests.
HK/China didn't put 30,000 plus troops, spies, fully armored vehicles, and tanks on the streets but you accused them of suppressing democracy and glorify their thugs as pro-democracy protesters who your congress quickly erected the HK security law for their protection, but when your own citizens held much less violent protests against the very same congress, you called them insurrectionists and have them swiftly prosecuted. Truly grotesque and corrupt western corporate media.
Astute observation, and fair analysis indeed. The hypocrisy of the US is mind-boggling. A dying empire displaying the "berserk" psychosis.
China and USA can live peacefully together.
I don't support China
China can, the US can’t
@@ZahdShah and we literally don't care about your non support...😂🤣
@@santiagorappy71 If "Living peacefully" means you taking our jobs with over sea factories and products, then no, we wont live peacefully
@@cowmoo5596 That would be your very own US oligarchs and as a perfectly indoctrinated sheep, they have you blame other countries.
Most Chinese children want to be astronauts, most American children want to be social media influencers.
I didn’t knew we had thousands of experts until i check comment section
Better than nuclear weapons competition for sure
Totally agree with you but its still very scary tho.
The problem is American kids these days aspire to be either RUclipsrs, celebrity athletes or lawyers, with a majority being anti-science 😂😂
You forgot chinese tik tokers 🤣
And only fan
That’s completely not true, I would like to know where you got these stats from, btw we have so many smart immigrants coming too, especially from Asian countries like India
are you sure ?
"kids these days"
Says China´s program is stumbling and then show "progress" on the US side: SLS and James web telescope, cause yeah those never had any issues. Someone didn´t do their homework.
Keep licking CCP boots
Your forgetting all of our rocket companies.
@@srs6461 I´m not , they are. The private sector will be the reason why China will loose this battle as soon politics in the US will get out of the way and stop pouring billions per year into a rocket that should´ve been made 30 years ago and stop intentionaly delaying progress elsewhere. SLS is the reason why China is catching up, not the reason why US will win.
China just doesn't show its issues, that's why it looks so successful.
@@Student0Toucher nice b8 m8
I like this, finally some more effort to exploring space!
it is not a race since racing requires one or two or more competitors. but this is not as such for on one side you have a stagnant agency which does the bare minimum to simply maintain what is, while from time to time doing a little more since they can; and on the other side you have an agency which is driven and which actively moves forward regardless what others say and/or how they perceive them. this is not competition. this is just co-existing under different priorities - a slow one on one side, and a rapidly moving one on the other.
What we Chinese have done is to make our lives better and safer. Maybe in the eyes of the US, China is a threat, but I still have to quote from Mao Zedong, the indomitable efforts of the Chinese people will surely achieve their goals。
That’s true lol, watching this video they talk about competition and stuff, when is Chinese don’t even care lol we just know these are important steps to achieve a better life
As an asean POV, we see both of you are a threats
Yes, both of you, your nation government.. and I've seen godforsaken of those abomination attitude and behavior from white aussies and chinese (mainland) in bali
Based
@@NextFuckingLevel 😂We don't care
mao zedong killed millions
This is not a Space Race, they just walking on their pathway.
Please use the correct map of China, this is the most basic respect for a country, Taiwan is part of China.The vast majority of countries in the world recognize that Taiwan belongs to China's territory, so why should you stubbornly use the map of China without Taiwan.
taiwan is an independent country
the speaker said dynamism within the ecology system in the long run. Does he mean 4 years or 40 years?
Until the next quarterly figures are reported.
@@OZUndead *Talking about China "innovation" - **9:05** showing Foxconn - the US showing NASA - LMAO Haha that is the "US Bloomberg document" for you 👍*
@@mickkrever4084 Sounds like you had a stroke while being drunk
@@OZUndead weird how you’d know what that sounds like
@@yanzx01 I'm a cardiologist at a whiskey distillery
Nice thumbnail. My compliments to the artist.
It's a Chinese propaganda poster
@@nguyen3545 You know when you... kinda like the villain. Don't get me wrong, i am aware of the numerous crimes against humanity, i just think it is a cool looking villain... if was not for SpaceX they probably would be a space hegemony by now.
The “yellow peril” is a factor in the geopolitical contest and it may also explain strong emotional reactions in Western ( USA ) countries to China’s rise.
What if a "white peril"
You are barking at the wrong tree. The Yellow Peril refers to the Mongolian invasion of White Europe, and China is a victim of the Mongolian invasion.
@@DifeiYao There are soooooo many strong white countries everywhere they can't really find a clear target
Racist US will forever think of the Whites as a superior race as they refuse to study world history and prefer to live in their own alternate universe. Let them be. The rest of the world will just evolve without them and they will discover how relevant they are in the 21st century eventually.
USA does not like to collaborate but compete. The policy, American first, never ends.
Don't get me wrong. 'American first' is not bad but the greatest thing ever happened and should keep in this way. If NASA goes IPO, that will be the greatest thing for investors.
The ISS and NATO beg to differ...
Well china is no better, if you've ever known how they treat their citizen its worst than us
Don't get me wrong. 'American first' is not bad but the greatest thing ever happened and should keep in this way. If NASA goes IPO, that will be the greatest thing for investors.
@@lowkey9871 Why do you always know more about China than the Chinese?Always bragging about things you don't understand.
@@lowkey9871 the happiest country in the world is North Korea
4:04.......
And the US shouted:" we won the space race!"
Sigh**...the power of symbolism
Doesn't matter who was leading first, if you cross the line first you win.
They landed a man on the moon
That was the race and they won
They won the race because the UDSSR did not follow with something more challenging. They did not even close the gap of accomplishments.
Russians had many firsts but the Americans were always close behind.
This all stopped at humans on the moon.
@@sohamatkar9285 Bullshit, the US set up their own line and the USSR never participated in the moon race to begin with. The ISS including part of the american modules are literally based in old soviet technology. You guys lost.
@@quisqueyanguy120 The USSR did participate in the moon race. The ISS is an international space station, not an American space station.
China and USA: begin building kinetic orbital bombardment satellites
Everyone: you wernt supposed to do that
Competition is never bad.
China have belt and road……then USA say….we also must match them.
Wow…..all the third world country is applauding.
Believe it or not, competition is the key to make human civilization improves
This guy going on about "democracy", how are we a democracy when corporations buy politicians to write laws benefitting corporations?
-What? I give you money to run errands for me is called corruption in China?
- Yeah in US you called it donation.
You do know that democracy is technically a rule by land owners right? Also, the US is a republic.
EDIT: A republic is a form of Representative Democracy that was invented by the Romans. Democracy was invented by the Athenians because the King of Athens didn't want to rule.
It's always some biased doom prediction of Chinese ambitions
Truly hope the entire world could benefit from this rivalry
China is busy exploring space while the US is debating evolution, the flat Earth, and whether or not climate change is real.
Hopefully President Biden won't cut the space program
Naahh, new Space Pedophile Club maybe
Senate committee controlled by Republicans already cut the funding for lunar lander one month ago from 3,6 billion dollars how Bridenstine requested to less than 1 billion,maybe democrats would increase the funding for the next year.
@@wannbaik cheese pizza for everyone
@@theOrionsarms keep believing CNN
What Trump did to the Space Program was one of the two only things that I think Trump did right, the other being his stance on China. So far, it looks like President Biden is interested in keeping the space program alive. Hopefully, we see Artemis launch by 2024.
You know what, as a Chinese, most people in China don’t really care and think too much about US, we are just trying to work hard to get better and it happens to beat lazy US in some areas. lol also this video is funny, it tries so hard to mislead
It's not like China is North Korea, I suppose only North Korean citizens literally hate US.
You can see America already trying to push an agenda
Well most of China is censored
@@ap7k533 we never censored American news, American politics are our daily comedy, people here like Trump a lot
@@Mrasianpopmusic yeah. most of us are trump's fans😏. 建国is the lovely person XD
🌟🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳 Glory to China,*** China is Great,*** Victory to China.***
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⭐🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
It’s a great thing cus now for the first time in decades the need to go to Space has been fuelled again. Soon as we are established somewhere things will change fast.
Most of the West see China as challenge. But after understand the China history (which the West usually didn't do), China had been a leader of the world for decades in many aspects and China just want to get back its crown.
Same thing could be said to india
Note, that im asean
This is what I was expecting since 2015, a new cold war in the horizon and a brand new space race. The more competitiveness the better
True. Trump’s trade war he started was the start of this new Cold War.
Competition always excited between the old and new raising power.
@@brianisme6498 And the trade deficit on US got even more lol
MALAY SUBTITLES : Part 3 of 3
10:26
Tetapi satu dengan misi yang lebih bercita-cita tinggi berbanding sebelumnya.
10:29
A.S. kini berusaha mengalahkan China kembali ke bulan
10:32
untuk membina asas lunar, menuai sumber
10:35
dan kemudian gunakannya sebagai batu loncatan untuk menuju ke Marikh.
10:37
Kali ini ketika kita pergi ke bulan,
10:39
kita akan tetap tinggal dengan tujuan
10:41
belajar bagaimana hidup dan bekerja di dunia lain
10:43
supaya kita dapat membawa pengetahuan dan maklumat itu ke Marikh.
10:48
Saya berfikir bahawa rasa mendesak
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bahawa kita mendengar dari pentadbiran Trump
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mengenai keperluan mempercepat program Artemis
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untuk sampai ke bulan menjelang 2024,
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Saya rasa sebahagian daripada itu
10:58
adalah kerana ancaman yang dirasakan dari China.
11:01
Oleh itu, saya berpendapat bahawa mempunyai China sebagai
11:06
pemain yang lebih serius di angkasa
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berpotensi baik untuk NASA,
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bagus untuk program angkasa Amerika.
11:15
Projek NASA yang lain merangkumi misi Mars
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dilengkapi dengan helikopter mini
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untuk terbang di permukaan planet merah,
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misi helikopter mini lain yang dirancang untuk Titan,
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Bulan terbesar Saturnus,
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dan pelancaran Teleskop Angkasa James Webb,
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peningkatan ke Teleskop Angkasa Hubble
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yang gambarnya mengubah pemahaman kita
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alam semesta seperti yang kita ketahui.
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Cita-cita China dan A.S.
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mungkin bergantung pada berapa lama persaingan mereka berterusan.
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Sekiranya sejarah ada pelajaran, semakin besar persaingan,
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semakin jauh kedua-dua kuasa besar ruang
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cenderung untuk mendorong diri mereka sendiri.
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Matlamat keseluruhan dengan program angkasa China,
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Saya rasa, sesuai dengan Amerika Syarikat.
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China tidak mahu tunduk kepada A.S. di Bumi
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dan tidak mahu menjadi bawahan A.S. di angkasa lepas.
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Buat masa ini, rancangannya adalah untuk merapatkan jurang.
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Dan jika anda melihat ini
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dari perspektif strategik Amerika,
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kebimbangannya ialah China mungkin mengalami lonjakan
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dalam bidang inovasi berteknologi tinggi
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itu akan menjadi yang paling penting
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dari segi memperkasakan inovasi dan produktiviti
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pada abad ke-21.
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Dan itu mungkin boleh berubah menjadi kelebihan
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di medan perang.
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Saya harus mengatakan bahawa juri benar-benar masih belum selesai
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dari segi seberapa berkesan China akan
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dalam menguasai inovasi dalam bidang ini.
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Tetapi jika China terus kekurangan
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ekosistem maklumat terbuka
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yang biasa kita kaitkan
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dengan kejayaan dan inovasi,
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mungkin masih ada halangan yang ketara
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untuk mengekalkan dinamisme yang diperlukan
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untuk memacu inovasi dalam jangka masa panjang.
Wow
It was never China's intention to race with the US, but it was China's intention not to get bullied by the US or its dogs.
You can't bully someone and tell him/her "just live with it".
Respect China from🇲🇾
USA landed in Texas and say landed in moon
lol :)
9:41 "because it's a democracy"LAMO
Sure, enjoy your freedom of having two moms
oh no please don't bring that image back to my mind.
@@slatealan7082 🤣🤣
So pretty much the story of “For all of mankind” but our timeline is a few decades behind and it’s a different adversary.
Wow, I wish I could add a gif of Bernie here.
Yeah, RUclips is lagging in features
Beijing: We already have 35,000 kilometers of high-speed railway by 2019.
Washington: We already had 39,600 kilometers of highways in 1965.
So what does Washington want to express?
The U.S. highway in 1965 was faster than the Chinese high-speed rail in 2019?🤪
People in the USA don’t use the train as much like in china
@@ap7k533 Guess why? :) Thanks to the lobbists hired by oil and car companies! Oh wait you proud of that?
China already had 140,000 kilometers of highways in 2019.
@@ap7k533 why, isn't train cheaper and more convenient over long distances than other forms of transport?
@@anshagrawal6289 Not in the US it's not. A combination of very large distances and general hatred for infrastructure spending (especially for something PUBLIC) means that trains are dead in the water. They're primarily used for freight - which has priority over passenger transport!
You ever think out of the billion people in China they might actually have people that legitimately want to go to space.
The Johns Hopkins professor is, well, subpar.
Soviet vs US space race is : my German scientists are better than yours German scientists
You got the point 👍👍👍
US won because they had the head German Scientist.
Chinese sample return mission completed more than a month ago.
Bloomberg must have slept through it, huh?
we shouldn even have competition. As human, we all should work together.
Space exploration is awesome