@@willengel2458 Advanced chips are exactly the type avoided : more difficult to harden against EMP/nuclear attacks. The 65 nm laser lithography already achieved by China is more than sufficient for weapons : most weapons use chips at least 10 years old, if not older. (If a younger chip is used, it would likely be due to the original chip type being unavailable for maintenance. )
Western sanctions are like putting extra weight on a man’s back when he’s walking up a hill. At first it slows him down and he strains under the additional difficulty, but over time his muscles develop and he just becomes that much stronger.
YES. I'm not american and even I can see that if they really wanted to "keep China down" they should've played the last 25 years in a different way. But the US often does these mistakes, like when they propped terrorism in Afghanistan to hit the Sovie Union and then got hit back by the same terrorists they helped grow...
Yeah except being a massive knob to a country just in case is probably not cool either. If China would stop acting like a petulant child and Xi not decide he needs to build a statue of himself in subjugated Tapai everything would be cool.
@@usapanda7303 I spot a bot^ As an American in China, the phone is real. It's funny when someone tries to claim that they know more than a major news outlet. 😂
As an engineer and a university professor, I'd say what changed most in China's supply chains is the swift and almost complete replacement of foreign components. Before 2018, as far as I recall, engineers in China are not encouraged to use domestically produced components because they are generally considered as inferior compared to imported counterparts. Nowadays almost all companies in the industry have turned completely to domestic parts to avoid the risk of "cutting off" of imported ones.
@@TheRabbitHole-pf9sq Mark Twain wrote in 1867 that travel is fatal to predjudice, bigotry, and narrowmindedness.... If you believe that the Chinese people are treated like "mines" or slaves, by its government, then you should definitely travel there to be a little bit less ignorant. The more I learn, the more I realize how much more I don't know.
@@TheRabbitHole-pf9sqand the us treat everyone with sunshine and rainbows? Where do you get your world view? Mainstream media ? Try reading some more from different perspective.
@@BBYY-ie9yi I suppose that different like others, I work internationally and do not sit isolated in my room. And instead believing everything I see in the little screen, I go out to experience everything myself.
@@iFryTube Inventing it means nothing. Britain invented trains yet it has some of the worst rail services on the planet today. And yes they very much HAVE started!
One more point ,when Reagan is the president,he hires alots of smart & capable people for advice & run the country to become a leading country of the world .Sadly we eye witness the destruction of creditability & leadership from financial to relationship w other countries ultimately leading to muilple wars & conflicts all around the world ,& destruction of civil system which used to provide a safe & stable living for the citizen.Inexchange by a $$elected politician & created a corrupted system from top down (runs by a selected type & groups of people)which in turn leads to where we are today .
Now china is years ahead of the US. When i went to China i was so surprised how advance china is compared to the US. China makes US looks like a 3rd world country.
when the US said they are upset about China making progress is the very reason why I want China to succeed. What they did to Huawei make my blood boil and I am not even pro China. History will judge the Americans in a very bad light.
I am not pro China but many people have no idea of what China is capable of building, they even have a space station and have sent a robot to Mars. They are doing everything the West is doing. If more people start adopting their products then the Western monopolies on many things will be fuck3d
So a country tells you that they're going to wipe you out, destroy democracy and subjugate your friends whilst they steal everything you can and you are supposed to do what exactly? But if this did make your blood boil, fair enough, go and read about AMDs little run in China and see what temperature your insides reach.
Well, at least with their chips they undoubtedly showed they couldn't. The chips were found to be Intel chips that had been smuggled in, had their serial info lasered off, then replaced. You can't win a tech arms race if all you have to wait for "the West" to develop the better tech first.
Speaking of space stations, why is China not invited to the international space station? It was a collaboration between two rivaling nations, the US and Soviet Union, along with a bunch of other countries.
@@kerbodynamicx472 Maybe it was because NASA and even the Soviets didn't want China stealing their tech, which is the only reason China was eventually able to build its space station?
@@Vaeldarg NASA my left foot, it was congress that passed the law that excluded China. Stealing my right foot, China's station is more advance than the international one. Soviet my 3rd imaginary foot, it was dead for almost 15 years by the start of the international station.
Perhaps you might ask your govt to lobby so that high technology Bangladeshi experts can eadily get permanent residence in Malaysia and move to Malaysia.......right now there are thousands of Bangledeshis working in Malaysia such as food service, farming and landscaping sectors (some of them marrying Muslim malaysians and getting permanent residence)...wsslm wbt...
Restrictions is the birth of innovation. If you want a group to remain stagnant, make them use the same bridge over and over again. The moment you stop them, after periods of difficulty, they will invent a new kind of bridge
Reminds me of the antibiotics problem. Now there are antibiotic resistant bacteria, so falling back to square one. The more something is resisted, the better it seems to get in turn.
@@skycloud4802 Yeah, but those things can come in handy at critical times. China was not in any crisis so they put all their efforts in Chip making and now they are going to be competing against TSMC/Samsung and reducing their market share. But imagine if the US didnt put the sanctions on China, China would still be reliant on US/TSMC for chips. Say a conflict starts between China/Taiwan/NATO, us sanctions SOCs to China and now China is in deep trouble, because China will have to split resources between the conflict and chip manufacturing. The development would be super slow and china will suffer from lack of availability of those chips. But US has been spoiled for so long that they showed their hand way too early.
@@masoodjalal1152 War has never been the intention of China. Many already know this, including the think tank of USA. Hence, to wait for conflict, it is never going to come. Hence, they had to resort to this. USA is the aggressor
There's is a simple story of how tow family's of land roaming apes got cut off from a bridge once made of ice and now it's all just some wacky fantasy story conjured up for the masses.
As a non-American I am not in the least concerned about China's success or China becoming a super power in multi polar world. China does not have an appetite to conquer another country, or drop an atom bomb on a civilian population or impose their "values". What I am concerned about is US being panicky and provoking China into war just like what they did in Ukraine/Russia.
China is a weak military country and has no nuclear warheads. I am also worried about the safety of China, so I can't buy cheap products in the future.
Ever heard of Taiwan. Or the South China Sea dispute. Also read about China’s debt traps. If you want to learn more and gain another perspective of China.
@@BobBrown. Unfortunately that propaganda no longer works. You are upset about Chinese Dept Trap, but at the same time the IMF aDept traps and the world sees it as such. As for south China sea, that is a dispute that pales in comparison to Invasion of Iraq, all the wars in Middle east, and all the meddlings US does around the world. Maybe learn more about US history and how they have fueled conflicts around the world to understand why the world sees through US propaganda.
@@りんごT-i3t China does have nuclear weapons and warheads with MIRV capabilities. That's one of the only things keeping China safe. Without means to retaliate, others would have invaded China again like they did in the last two centuries.
I love China, and they do not pose a threat to humanity! They are hardworking and kind people. They are growing and achieving astonishing results because they are a country with a great education system that helps them grow and a government that incentivizes that!
The fact Raimondo states she's more worried about the scalibility of the Huawei chip indicates her true intentions of hitting at the commercial success of Huawei instead of the security concerns with such a chip. Military demand for such a chip would be puny and should be more concerning rather than the scability of such a chip.
That, and the realisation that the “they stole it from us” tag is rapidly losing efficacy - when the market has been completely taken over by a new thing, no one will remember or care if it was or wasn’t copied from an old thing (cf. 80s Japan).
@@swarasyam Maybe i should hv phrased it as security concerns regarding diverting chips toward military use which has always been brandished as the perfect excuse to sanction and ban exports to China. But as I pointed out the use of such chips would be puny in weapons first because they would be too fragile to withstand the real life conditions of weapons like misdiles or tanks unlike your phone. So military applications are more likely to use older chips with a more rugged demeanor rather than a tiny chip to maximize energy consumption and portability .
it's doomed to fail only because China is already a powerful country, the same strategy worked for smaller countries like Japan and France, but yes, it stemmed from despicable motivation.
And it's pretty hypocritical coming from a country who adopted and regarded as the best capitalism in the world which its policy core should be let the market works by itself with little to none government government intervention; in other word let economy moves freely 😅
What's even more impressive about the Mate 60, other than the chip which most of the western media focuses on is the rest of the phone. It's made up of completely domestic Chinese technology, especially in critical areas like 5g modems, the OS, camera lens and sensors, LTPO displays, etc the list goes on. This rapid development of domestic technology on various critical smartphone components is more than impressive.
Ah yes, the high tech *Android* phone with an *ARM* chip. 🙃 Partnership before sanction: 5G Qualcomm, Camera sensors SONY, OLED display SAMSUNG, oh and looks like they still allowed to use memory module from SK Hynix 🇰🇷
@@thedduck ARM doesn't sell chips. They license them. They are a British company so the U.S. can't stop them since they don't have 'U.S. technology' in their design architecture. BOE makes the OLED chips and YMTC has the latest NAND flash chips tech.
That's like table tennis or was it diving? Anyway, they only allow two contestants from each country to compete because they don't want China to win gold, silver, and bronze. Whereas, in track, they can have three for tracks and fields. I wonder who set up those rules? LOL.
It's a bit arrogant to assume China wouldn't catch up at pace, in my view. They're the world's best manufacturer, have a population of 1.4b people, the world's largest market for chips, and every year they graduate almost ten times more engineers than the USA. The USA needs to have a domestic chip supply for sure. But to assume they can outclass China at what they do best, manufacturing... I'm not so sure.
You really need to look up the supply chain of chips. It’s literally the most advance tech to make in the world and requires much of the world to make.
@@techcloud2510Nope. Still a developing nation with lots of poverty. Manufacturing stuff for the world doesn't mean you own the tech. China is getting there however, with warp speed.
China is actually a developed country. No poverty, all electrified homes, best infrastructure in the world, more advanced tech than any country in the world. What else you need to be developed? They also left US behind in PPP and has more than 12,000$ gdp per capita for 1.4 billion people. WHAT ELSE YOU WANT FOR A DEVELOPED COUNTRY? Even their universities are the best in all of Asia as well.@@roenin
@@plusultra7258 I thought you wanted be sarcastic at first. Dude, if you know any better than the World Bank or IMF, you must be one highly regarded individual and your nation of origin should treat you like royalty. Don't know about their universities, there are some high ranking ones (Top 16), but I doubt this is enough to consider them leading in science or tech in any way. They are part of the BRICS nations, therefore an emerging nation amongst others like India, Brasil, Russia and South Africa. Do you consider these as developed as well?
They're just smarter. I find it hilarious how they keep saying China cannot innovate. Yet, all the top scientists and researchers at the top tech companies and universities are all Chinese
Biden gives 12 billion to Israel for war but chaina is giving 40 billion dollars for semiconductor research now you think about who will win Chaina/ USA
Its not nonsense. Why would we let our enemies get their hands on the best chips in the market. They made the right dececision here. Chinas goverment is to blame for this not the US
Honestly, I wish them luck in making the smallest chip possible. I am not a fan of sabotaging progress of one to keep another ahead. It is not very "fair play". So, no matter the consequences, I wish them luck.
@@markomaric903 Its kind of ironic that you use such terrible grammar as you tell someone to go back to school. Also, history is NOT the correct subject in school to learn about how the world works. The correct subject is called political science. And there is not one right answer in political science. There are different strategies and theories, and they include a lot of discussion about the ethics of acquiring and maintaining power.
to be fair. americans assume because they are liars that china must also be liars. americans dont understand that if china lies, china lies to look weaker not stronger. anyone that understands chinese culture would know this but most americans can't understand it.
Sadly, US hasn't been interested in anything but controlling other countries since like 1960s. Basically immediately after moon landing, they cut majority of science budgets, and ever since then USA has been trailing others in sciences and advances. America only dreams to achieve the same scientific progress that Asian region has now.
Maybe China should get its own inventions then instead of trying to steal them from the west? Its not a human right to be allowed to buy memory chips and lithographic machines imao
@@tristinx270 LOL, the US does design the chips, especially the high-end one. Taiwan only manufactures it. You can literally find a lot of articles about it online. Nice try tho...
At the rate Huawei was advancing in 2018, they would've overtaken Samsung and apple by now. Their phones were just perfect. Every year they would release a phone with cameras 2 years ahead of the competition. Their chips were also very efficient even if it was a little slower than the competition. Their phones would never overheat or slow down. My 250 dolar 2016 Huawei still runs perfectly without lag to this day.
This is so true. A lot of people missed this fact. They were starting to devour the market but the bullies decided to put them on life support with the sanctions and the anti-china propaganda.
Honestly, as a consumer, I am excited for more competition in chip manufacturing. The GPU prices, not to mention car prices have increased due to monoply in this sector.
China has Moore Threads, which is a domestic GPU design company using entirely their own architecture. Their GPUs are not too reliable at the moment, but they could improve in the future
@@GK-qc5rywell, that's how the world works. it's unfair and disgusting, but that's how the world works. the USA can't compete with china anymore so they sanction them
No one is holding China back. They are stealing Western technology and use it to manufacture products and often sell as their own products. Why do we need to give our manufacturing tech when they start to threaten the world and support Russia?
Its really nice to read this comment section and be reminded that most people are smart enough to understand that this has very little to do with security. ❤
Nothing to do with security and everything to do with insecurity. Goes to show who's really in control in America, the barons who believe they're entitled to running the world and will stop at nothing to ensure that control.
@@CaidicusProductions you do realise american sanctions in china were done because Taiwan and Japan BEGGED for it. They were stealing their chips and selling it to america. I love how everyone ignores the other chinese people suffering from the ccp, and just blame america like the simplminded hivemind of commies they are.
5 years ago: China will _never_ catchup in chips 3 years ago: China is 20 years behind 1 year ago: China is 7-10 years behind 6 months ago: 7nm? Thats 3 years old tech! Last month: yah, but their 5nm chips cost more because of multipatterning! This month, China: our AI chips outperform Nvidia's most common chip in some tasks 3 years from now? "3nm overcapacity in chips!!!" 3 years ago: China can't make DUV Last year: ok china can make DUV but they cant make EUV 3 years from now?
Yes, but US would depress or contain any country which can threaten its hegemony. In reality, it's just a wishful thinking because in nature, Chinese is a technological civilization. Once China fully establishes its advanced chip/semiconductor design and manufacturing capability, US companies would lose the Chinese market. Even worse, the Chinese made chips could come back to compete with US companies.
@@coffeebreak100Israel should be supported. I rather Israel rule that region that a bunch of mororns following the infamous "religion of peace" BUT, what USA is doing to china is unfair.
Congrats to Huawei, making such a breakthrough under the toughest sanctions ever applied upon a single company. Sanction Stories of Toshiba and Alstom by US make Huawei such a respectful company.
The Chinese youth is also among the smartest and most hardworking groups in the world. On the other, there are some US youth who can't name all the continents and spend hours on social media platforms and unproductive stuff. China is not only going to catch up with the US but also surpass them.
Already the US is in a trade deficit with China by more than 300%. US has lost, it's only a matter of time the world acknowledges that. Only intelligent people knows that and started making smart moves already 😊
What did the US expect when they cut China off of the advanced Semiconductor technologies ? Like they were just gonna say "Well that's it guys, we can no longer get American technology so we'll just drop all our ambitions and dreams and just sit back and relax" ?
I would expect America to have that expectation from China like you describe - "Well that's it guys, we can no longer get American technology so we'll just drop all our ambitions and dreams and just sit back and relax" It's very American things to expect such things from the rest of the world. They think they are special and exceptional LOL 😅
The US expects that the average Chinese people would lose their jobs, starve, lose their minds, fight each other on the streets, then overthrow the Communist government.
@@hiicyuivbi And I had an iphone 7 back in days, only lasted 3 weeks before the battery overheats. So whats the point? And I'm old enough to remember there's Samsung phone that just explodes for no reason, too.
How the world let the US achieve this kind of power is crazy to me, no wonder China and Russia are always in conflict with them, it’s a matter of pride, how another country can dictate how another advance? It’s crazy 😵💫
China and the USA definitely trade blows in terms of power and influence. Russia is incredibly backwards though and these days even it's citizenry isn't as educated as it once was
i... did not expect such a rational, intelligent and unbiased comment section under a BLOOMBERG video of all things I applaud all americans who view the world with positivity instead of endlessly falling into anger, envy and fear.
Well said. And it's encouraging to find people remain so sensible and fair in spite of all the smearing and disinformation about China by the "main stream" media of the West. World peace depends on the sanity and sensibility of the people.
@@rickjansenhugsnaxironically it was Trump who began these restrictions. But his administration decided not to include DUV machines. Biden fixed that but it was too late
The growth of Chinese technology is the best thing to have happened for developing nations. The more China grows the less Western countries are able to enforce their imperial ideologies.
Yes I agree, when Chinese high tech matured. I want to buy chinese and dropped my reliance on West products. West have a history threatened my country and that reflex my country know what to do in the future.
I support fair play for china buf you're saying absolute bs too. sanctions don't make progress for a country. china IS getting powerful but a lot of that is because so many USA's businesses have operated in china over the years. tradings between USA and china were always huge. china owns a big part of their success to USA, and now they've already learned enough to compete with USA.
It's disgusting to hear humans holding back other humans progress because of national pride and national security. What a disgusting world we live in that is destined for conflict.
Ah. ..destined for conflict. That’s exactly what the US wants. The US knows they hold the tech in hands. So the US would squeeze the lifetime until the opponent (although China thinks in terms of partnership) surrenders and gives in to the US demand or until the opponent fight back with military. Military is the US strength. The US would use proxy wars or its pawns to fight. The US military industrial complex loves wars. That’s why would never allow to dismantle NATO.
Not even about national security. The lower-nm chips that are sanctioned are not as commonly used as higher-nm chips because the former are typically not robust enough for military applications.
What has China done wrong? Because they work well? Previously, Western capital placed production in China. Cheaper workers. But now China is not slaves. They have their own capital. And they have moved away from the market of price competition, towards the competition of innovation. That's what they "did wrong."
My P20 Pro was awesome and lasted me 6yrs without any issues. This whole tech war sucks for the consumers, although i do understand the principles behind it.. humans are just not capable of coexistence, yet.
haha I have a P30 bought in 2019 and it works well, as a backup phone though😂😂I have to admit that P30 is the first to put a periscope camera in a phone, and it still works better in taking photos than many phones in 2023
@@clickbaitpro Haha I think as long as we can recycle the electronic waste, it's not a bad thing. It's normal for people to switch phones about every 3 years, cuz that's the design lifespan of a phone
The tougher sanctions you put on us the more united we are to make something new and even better. As a Chinese from Taiwan, China. I am teaching the Huawei stories to my nieces and newphews and encourage them to be more devoted to study harder and better and I am very happy to they all so determined to study harder and hope one day they could devote their skills and knowledge they learned to help our Chinese companies create more advanced technologies coz now we understand the West isn't reliable we must rely on ourselves. Thank you again Americans let's us becoming more united and stronger and self reliant.
Do you call them "Huawei stories" because they're fiction? There's video, you realise, showing the Huawei stores empty while the Apple stores were full in China when those phones released. Don't thank us Americans, we know you what you say about us on your social media when you think we're not looking.
Chinese government had been trying for many years to get the tech companies to make domestic chips. No amount of subsidies and incentives could get them to risk in a difficult investment, it’s much easier just to import them. In 2022, the country imported $415.58 billion worth of semiconductors compared with $365.51 billion in crude oil. Thanks to America, China managed to do what their government tried hard and failed to achieve.
At this point it’s too late, if they can domestically produce 7nm chipsets, they have the knowledge to go forwards. Unlike russia whose microchip industry is a laughing stock.
as an avid huawei device user, i can easily say that huawei was years ahead of all other competition back in 2018 when ban by USA was imposed, the world was shocked when a device like mate 20 pro came and it was atleast 3-4 years ahead of both samsung and apple. But to china's luck/hardwork they are figuring a way out of the crippling ban that is imposed and i am pretty sure USA won't be able to contain them
Huawei is the best phone I ever used. The ridiculous trade war started by the US will end about as well as their failed war on drugs and on terrorists. I remember when we used to be a world leader. Now the US slogan is if you can't beat em... ban em...
The marketing was great but the Mate 30 Pro was horrible... without Google Playstore... huge and the falling screen was a disaster to write with the keyboard... and forget to use it on 1 hand... impossible to write correctly... 4 months and it was into a trash (I gave to a family member who got so many problems that it was in a cupoard)... I tried to install all .apk... but banking app do not have and many other didn't exist (they do not provide out of the playstore)... a huge nightmare). The pictures were great though !
@@bluepawn thats the thing usa took the gamble to hurt both china and meanwhile took a great hit onto their private industry bcz they were too reliant on chinese market, usa thought they will keep china at arms length atleast for a decade or so without the tech, but when has the world really been able to fend off china...
I work for a Japanese company in China what I am feeling is there are more and more alternative domestic parts、technology in china The sanctions made by us actually push China to improve the tech ability faster than ever before. I fear losing my job one day but i am proud of them
absolute bs. sanctions don't help a country in any way. china is progressing, but not because of sanctions.. they're progression because china is a huge country , with a huge population and most of them have a mid education, that means there will be a lot of smart people in this huge population. china's economy is very huge too thanks to the big tradings between china , USA Europe Russia middle east and other countries. that's why they're progressing. huge country,huge resources, huge economy, and education.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq Actually, it is helpful. Before the sanctions imposed by the United States, many Chinese companies would not choose to use domestically produced products that are more expensive but of lower quality. However, everything changed after the US sanctions. Companies are worried that their products will become unusable due to sanctions one day, so they can only use domestic products. As many such companies choose domestic products, domestic companies will have more profits and thus more funds for research and development. This ultimately forms a virtuous cycle, greatly accelerating the localization of China’s high-tech industry.
So is so? because in my country they lobbied so we can get products make in China in detriment of our own industry. In times of quarantine we were forbidden to send packages among ourselves but Chinese products were exempted and allowed. They are giant bullies against the third world.
As video said. US restricted company that's German to sell equipment. Tells you everything who is the boss, Germany is under US hand so is the EU@@techcafe0
If US sanctions were not imposed Huawei is the world largest smartphone manufacture for sure. Seeing how well huawei is doing with this much of trouble its just amazing. As a huawei user um so proud of them
You're likely not actually a Huawei user, though, given the amount of people in China were flooding Apple stores while leaving Huawei ones empty. Because all that Huawei phone was, is just a knock-off of Apple's newest phone.
@@VaeldargObviously you don’t understand Huawei enough. Huawei is not a typical technology company. It is a social enterprise that is owned by employees. There is no western capitalists who come to destroy companies. Huawei’s mission is to make China strong in technology and to close the gaps with western countries. Huawei is competing not just with Apple, it is also competing with Google, Tesla, Qualcomm, Nvidia, Microsoft, Oracle, ChatGPT, etc. 60% of Huawei’s employees are in R&D, the highest percentage in the world.
Yes, but the long-term outcome would be Huawei still being the largest and most powerful smartphone manufacture, but with all its supply chain being shared within China.
1998 US: You are not allow to enter International Space Station. China: 🥲🥲🥲 24 years later, 2022 China: Finally! I made it by myself. US: You have to share it with us!
Viva China. They dont stealbour resources. They trade fairly and empower a country. Not like the USA start a war set uo a base and steal all the resources under people noses and dead bodies. We have seen too many of thlhat scenario in this decade from USA
Most people in China earn like 150 dollar per month. You think they can afford a Huawei phone? There is a stark difference between poor and rich, on the east coast where rich people live they mostly just buy iPhones. Go to Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen. Look around what phone people use... ah yes iPhones. Go look there for yourself. Go visit another country for once.
@HermanWillems everything you said is an ABSOLUTE lie, most Chinese people earn far more than that, and the rich in the country mostly use Chinese branded phones, also even the iphones being used are made in China, so they're essentially Chinese phones, you don't know what you're talking about
@@HermanWillemsI live both in US and China, I should say what you said is totally wrong, not true. 150 usd is a salary for one day not a month in China. also in china, you pay 7 dollars a day for food in restaurant and in US you spend at least 30 usd per day for food in restaurant and you eat drug beef. But you cannot make 150 per day in US. That is the sad fact why so many Americans escaping from US to China recent years. Never spread rumors, shame on you
@@HermanWillems All the people saying China has a low income rate forget to mention the fact that China has a lower cost of living, meaning that food, water electricity, medical costs and housing are alot more cheap than in America. Imagine paying $8 for 20 eggs in California.
@@lolcatjunior my chinese collegue his apartment in Shanghai makes him a millionaire. Which is probably more expensive than YOUR house. So no. There is just big difference between poor those almost or more than 50 to 60% of chinese people get 150 dollar a month.
Luckily, America doesn't hold the monopoly on intelligent people. If you incentivize, allow and support them to do their thing, they will make amazing stuff. So this is hardly surprising.
Why not disagree - I was focussing on the principle and you are focussing on a practice. You obviously have - the inside knowledge. I just meditate and think. Fare thee well.@@Sanyu-Tumusiime
Was wondering about these figures. One is allowed to 'decorate' - one's argument - with wobbly numbers - though. But if it wobbles - too much - one goes off the road. Fare thee well.@@icecube3645
It is obvious that the best way to defeat a country's industry is to dump it at a low price, not to impose sanctions. Especially for a country with a huge internal market like China, sanctions will only hand over the market to other enterprises.
Japan was going down a very similar path to China, unfortunately, Japan is an island country, small and without resources, in addition, due to its history it gets along badly with its Asian neighbors, in such a way that they had no other option than to kneel and submit, china is another matter...
The people who lose sleep over this have no idea how lucky they are. Competition from chinese tech companies means better products and lower prices for us consumers.
How could they not mention the fully domestically designed and developed 5G chip in the SoC? That was for me even more impressive than the CPU. Just like that Qualcomm lost the worlds largest market.
@@innocentgoitseone3715 USA is trying to do what it did to Japan in 90s. It wants to crash China the way it did with Japan. The problem is that China is ready to drag USA with it should it come tumbling down.
@@innocentgoitseone3715the different is in those time America was the sole market that consume those kinda amount of high technology so by closing the market suddenly those advanced company lose all their consumer and cannot innovate because no one wanted their stuff anymore. This time it was different china itself is also becoming the market and big enough to consume and keep the pace for those blocked company to innovate
Not exactly, the US are preventing ASML (a Dutch company) from giving them next gen 3nm chip fab machines. Their aim isn't to protect Dutch companies (US chip fab is behind) but to smite the Chinese.
It's a worldwide network of companies that don't want to give up technological hegemony. While the US is at the center due to its economy and military, it has no real authority over Dutch or Taiwanese companies. They just prefer to enjoy the benefits of being US allies over going with China.
Recently bought a Google Pixel 7 pro to replace my aging P30 Pro. After three months, I decided to sell the Pixel and keep the P30 pro. Huawei devices are well designed and the last two flagships (mate 20 pro and P30 Pro) they made before sanction were ahead of their time!
We bought a Pixel 8 and had to return it due to a large amount of issues and the tech support could do nothing but asking us to update and reboot. We had bad luck with Samsungs so we eneded up with a OnePlus. A lot better but we still hoped that we could get a Huawei.
I have my eyes on the new Honor Magic 6 Pro. The only alternative to a Huawei flagship. OnePlus 12 is also on my radar, but it lacks the TOF depth sensor Magic 6 Pro has.
China has millions of STEM graduates each year who are willing to contribute to China's march towards greater scientific and technological breakthroughs. US politicians and war hawks are a delusional bunch. China is unstoppable!
U'know, its about "how did Chinese do it without DEMOCRACY". Americans worship this social system so much that they sincerely believe that people cannot achieve anything without it. Therefore, they came up with a huge ton of lies about the USSR in order not to notice any of its achievements. And when China began to get rich and develop in the early 2000s, in America they began to write a bunch of articles about how China would very soon become a democracy - well, because the Chinese began to live better and now they will have a thirst for democracy, and without it their development will be constrained. What a nonsense. Well, now Americans are forced to learn that others can live and prosper in a different way than Americans.
No, the United States does not have 7-nanometer technology. The best chips in the United States are 10-nanometer technology. Qualcomm, Apple, Intel, and Nvidia's chips are almost all produced by South Korea's Samsung and Taiwan's TSMC.
6:26 Gina Raimando contradicts herself. Earlier she said her only concern about China chips is only about national security concerns because China can use them in weapon. But then she said after the Huawei phone launch, that she was relieved that China can't produce these chips in big scale. Indeed if these chips were only for military purpose there is no need for mass production.
I still remember back in 2018 when US did sweeping sanctions on Huawei. As a dumb 23 old I really swallowed all thr western propoganda and lies behind the sanction. Now as an embedded tech guy I fully understand the US' frustration. They simply cannot loose this war.
No matter what US tries, China will do it by themselves for sure. If not the most hard working nation, one of the most hard working nation for a reason and hard work always pays off.
@@gothamt9843 of course they can. Just one problem: No one is going to pay double the money for these 'US manufactured' chips when they can easily get it at a much lower cost when manufactured in Asia. USA simply cannot compete with Asia when it comes to keeping manufacturing costs low. Plus, USA does not have skilled human resource readily available to run these large manufacturing plants. So you're statement 'it chooses not to' is untrue!
They'd say manufacture of modern chips the Chinese way are a human rights violation & a direct threat to 'national security' Oh and war...gotta feed the military machine somehow.
The arrogance of some people assuming that only they are entitled to have technology or be a threat. Anyone is entitled to whatever they are able to be. You want to be the best, just the be the best and let the others do their thing
"Upset" that another country you've been bullying has shown some success? Exactly the words a petty little servant from a petty little insecure country would say.
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do not mislead your viewers. you do not need advanced chips for weapon systems. advanced chips are mainly for smartphones.
America can't stop China growth. Full stop.
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@@willengel2458
Advanced chips are exactly the type avoided : more difficult to harden against EMP/nuclear attacks. The 65 nm laser lithography already achieved by China is more than sufficient for weapons : most weapons use chips at least 10 years old, if not older.
(If a younger chip is used, it would likely be due to the original chip type being unavailable for maintenance. )
America: refuses to sell china chips
China: Makes their own
America: Wait that's not allowed
LOL
China: we will show the world！
Huawei: We have a new chip that can rival snapdragon.... from 4 years ago!
China: shhh! Let's pretend nobody notices
Literally that simple. China got forced to make their own.
@@vueport99yet it performs close to latest iphone and much more power efficient
What part of this is puzzling to you? It’s called competition. Sometimes competition is fair and sometimes it isn’t
Western sanctions are like putting extra weight on a man’s back when he’s walking up a hill. At first it slows him down and he strains under the additional difficulty, but over time his muscles develop and he just becomes that much stronger.
Perfectly put.
Well said.
vividly
I wonder why
Well said mate
US in a way has accelerated Chinese innovation. Thanks to US policies. Now, we are going to have a truly multipolar world.
YES. I'm not american and even I can see that if they really wanted to "keep China down" they should've played the last 25 years in a different way. But the US often does these mistakes, like when they propped terrorism in Afghanistan to hit the Sovie Union and then got hit back by the same terrorists they helped grow...
Yeah except being a massive knob to a country just in case is probably not cool either.
If China would stop acting like a petulant child and Xi not decide he needs to build a statue of himself in subjugated Tapai everything would be cool.
You clearly have never been to China and have never used Chinese tech. This phone video is completely false.
@@usapanda7303 I spot a bot^
As an American in China, the phone is real. It's funny when someone tries to claim that they know more than a major news outlet. 😂
I recently got the phone and I live in Hong Kong now. The phone is one of the slowest yet.@@EastMilk
As an engineer and a university professor, I'd say what changed most in China's supply chains is the swift and almost complete replacement of foreign components. Before 2018, as far as I recall, engineers in China are not encouraged to use domestically produced components because they are generally considered as inferior compared to imported counterparts. Nowadays almost all companies in the industry have turned completely to domestic parts to avoid the risk of "cutting off" of imported ones.
是的，中国很多公司被坑怕了
感谢他们给了国产发展的机会
比如近两年的中国手机品牌采用了大量的中国零部件，比如屏幕面板，现在全都是中国国产屏幕面板，它们来自华星光电、京东方、维信诺、天马等。几年前还在流行使用三星LG屏幕面板，短短几年销声匿迹。那些因为制裁面临倒闭的企业被其他强大的企业收购，停掉的项目再次被启动，并且扩大了规模。还有大量企业没有交卷或准备交卷，那些不起眼的企业正在出现在大众视野。美国政府的制裁不仅加速中国技术转型，还让中国企业更加团结。
@@kkas539Nice
Because China has the largest number of engineers and competent industrial workers in the world
If China does an innovation -> Military, Cybercrime etc,
If US does an innovation -> Human wellbeing, medicine etc
What a logic 😂😂
Logic of predjudice.
Given how China treat its people like a human mine, I would say that’s not too bad.
@@TheRabbitHole-pf9sq Have you been to China? If yes, when, where and duration of each visit?
@@TheRabbitHole-pf9sq Mark Twain wrote in 1867 that travel is fatal to predjudice, bigotry, and narrowmindedness.... If you believe that the Chinese people are treated like "mines" or slaves, by its government, then you should definitely travel there to be a little bit less ignorant. The more I learn, the more I realize how much more I don't know.
@@TheRabbitHole-pf9sqand the us treat everyone with sunshine and rainbows?
Where do you get your world view? Mainstream media ? Try reading some more from different perspective.
I'm still using the Huawei P20 I bought 7 years ago, best phone I've ever had.
time to change to mate 60 pro
FBI open up
@@thisiscarl7622 Mate, that thing is amazing
I'm still using my P30. Almost 3 years today
Still using my P30 Pro after 4.5 years. Battery is bad, but the phone is still fast as new.
Much love for China from Germany. Working together was the greatest experience. China has very disciplined and smart people.
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China Chip Tech is 7 years behind USA Tech! China make your own tech not STEAL IT!
you must be paid by China----- CNN BBC DW CBC
@@BBYY-ie9yi I suppose that different like others, I work internationally and do not sit isolated in my room. And instead believing everything I see in the little screen, I go out to experience everything myself.
@@Anorch-oy9jkwhat did the other user say, I can't view his/her comment
Civilization can't be restricted to one nation. US is fighting a lost war.
USA literally invented the CPU
@@iFryTube Intel Almost bankrupt
US has already lost. Just flailing about.
@@bobsmith3983 if US lost then China never started 😂😂😂
@@iFryTube
Inventing it means nothing. Britain invented trains yet it has some of the worst rail services on the planet today.
And yes they very much HAVE started!
America: We are scared that China might use it for weapons.
America: *Proceeds to make weapons using same technologies*
fun fact: politicians and hypocrites can be used synonymously
मोदी जी bharat को superpower banayenge, with imported semiconductor chips
@@yadav-rTera akhilesh yadav toti chura kar desh ko number one banayega
Ya fir gunde mafia ko palkar gundagardi karake number one banayga
Yeah because most of the world would rather we hold the advanced weapons than China, believe it or not.
its not that.. the US wants to Protect their Tech Hegemony but staying 10 steps ahead of everyone in this race ..
The fact the US can openly try to hold back another country so that they can be ahead and we all just accept it is just beyond me.
I'm starting to believe that this might be the real reason that Ukraine was forced into a war with Russia.
Exactly
They did the same on Soviet Russia. Now US is inciting a new Red Scare with China as the main target
Any country should hold back China. They participated in what could be considered act of war in Baltic sea against Finland and Estonia.
Jealousy
Always amazes me how short sighted american politicians are
because their term is 4 years
Senators that spent 30 years in office and built 40m net worth from a 100k salary would disagree with you 😂😂
@@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ democratic capitalism baby!
and American public.
One more point ,when Reagan is the president,he hires alots of smart & capable people for advice & run the country to become a leading country of the world .Sadly we eye witness the destruction of creditability & leadership from financial to relationship w other countries ultimately leading to muilple wars & conflicts all around the world ,& destruction of civil system which used to provide a safe & stable living for the citizen.Inexchange by a $$elected politician & created a corrupted system from top down (runs by a selected type & groups of people)which in turn leads to where we are today .
Now china is years ahead of the US. When i went to China i was so surprised how advance china is compared to the US. China makes US looks like a 3rd world country.
You were upset that China is advancing it's technology, but I was happy that the world is moving forward for everyone
US wants to eat erybodys lunch .
@@sylvesteruchia5263Duhh... What country does NOT want to be #1 in various industries.
@@sylvesteruchia5263monopoly is the best
They're just very jealous lol
China Chip Tech is 7 years behind USA Tech! China make your own tech not STEAL IT!
when the US said they are upset about China making progress is the very reason why I want China to succeed. What they did to Huawei make my blood boil and I am not even pro China. History will judge the Americans in a very bad light.
I am not pro China but many people have no idea of what China is capable of building, they even have a space station and have sent a robot to Mars. They are doing everything the West is doing. If more people start adopting their products then the Western monopolies on many things will be fuck3d
Go learn how espionage caused the downfall of Nortel and the rise of Huawei. There is a lot of stolen tech that powers them.
So a country tells you that they're going to wipe you out, destroy democracy and subjugate your friends whilst they steal everything you can and you are supposed to do what exactly?
But if this did make your blood boil, fair enough, go and read about AMDs little run in China and see what temperature your insides reach.
@@Leah-ju8ht Tell me you didn't read his comment properly without telling me:
Yes you are pro china.
You actually expect China not to find a way to do it themselves - given that's exactly what they did with the space station and with Mars. 🙄
Well, at least with their chips they undoubtedly showed they couldn't. The chips were found to be Intel chips that had been smuggled in, had their serial info lasered off, then replaced. You can't win a tech arms race if all you have to wait for "the West" to develop the better tech first.
People who steal for a living naturally can't comprehend anything can be created.
Speaking of space stations, why is China not invited to the international space station? It was a collaboration between two rivaling nations, the US and Soviet Union, along with a bunch of other countries.
@@kerbodynamicx472 Maybe it was because NASA and even the Soviets didn't want China stealing their tech, which is the only reason China was eventually able to build its space station?
@@Vaeldarg NASA my left foot, it was congress that passed the law that excluded China. Stealing my right foot, China's station is more advance than the international one. Soviet my 3rd imaginary foot, it was dead for almost 15 years by the start of the international station.
love china from Bangladesh. Working together with the chinese engeneering team in Bangladesh was great
Perhaps you might ask your govt to lobby so that high technology Bangladeshi experts can eadily get permanent residence in Malaysia and move to Malaysia.......right now there are thousands of Bangledeshis working in Malaysia such as food service, farming and landscaping sectors (some of them marrying Muslim malaysians and getting permanent residence)...wsslm wbt...
我真希望可以和孟加拉做贸易，不知道你们需要什么
@@azmanrahim9226nope..we dont want more immigrants here
Love Bangladesh, from China
@@JunW-ux5zl we mostly import onion flowers,potatos,eggs,chillies,salt,sugar
Restrictions is the birth of innovation. If you want a group to remain stagnant, make them use the same bridge over and over again. The moment you stop them, after periods of difficulty, they will invent a new kind of bridge
Reminds me of the antibiotics problem. Now there are antibiotic resistant bacteria, so falling back to square one. The more something is resisted, the better it seems to get in turn.
@@skycloud4802 Yeah, but those things can come in handy at critical times. China was not in any crisis so they put all their efforts in Chip making and now they are going to be competing against TSMC/Samsung and reducing their market share. But imagine if the US didnt put the sanctions on China, China would still be reliant on US/TSMC for chips. Say a conflict starts between China/Taiwan/NATO, us sanctions SOCs to China and now China is in deep trouble, because China will have to split resources between the conflict and chip manufacturing. The development would be super slow and china will suffer from lack of availability of those chips. But US has been spoiled for so long that they showed their hand way too early.
What inovation? They are doing what TSMC was doing years ago, on exactly same mashines from ASML :D
@@masoodjalal1152 War has never been the intention of China. Many already know this, including the think tank of USA. Hence, to wait for conflict, it is never going to come. Hence, they had to resort to this. USA is the aggressor
@@petrbelohoubek6759dude, neither US or Europe can produce 7nm chips… if China nukes tsmc factory’s they will become the best on mass chip producing
Asml boss said once that "the law of physics are the same in China as in USA."
There's is a simple story of how tow family's of land roaming apes got cut off from a bridge once made of ice and now it's all just some wacky fantasy story conjured up for the masses.
that is a diplomatic way of saying: America is NOT exceptional.
That is sound like CRYING 😭😭😭😭
@@Fred-Hex In terms of how long China's been civilized, thousands of years, China is.
😂
As a non-American I am not in the least concerned about China's success or China becoming a super power in multi polar world. China does not have an appetite to conquer another country, or drop an atom bomb on a civilian population or impose their "values". What I am concerned about is US being panicky and provoking China into war just like what they did in Ukraine/Russia.
China is a weak military country and has no nuclear warheads. I am also worried about the safety of China, so I can't buy cheap products in the future.
btw, are you from Pakistan? if yes I can already tell why you're hating
Ever heard of Taiwan. Or the South China Sea dispute. Also read about China’s debt traps. If you want to learn more and gain another perspective of China.
@@BobBrown. Unfortunately that propaganda no longer works. You are upset about Chinese Dept Trap, but at the same time the IMF aDept traps and the world sees it as such. As for south China sea, that is a dispute that pales in comparison to Invasion of Iraq, all the wars in Middle east, and all the meddlings US does around the world. Maybe learn more about US history and how they have fueled conflicts around the world to understand why the world sees through US propaganda.
@@りんごT-i3t China does have nuclear weapons and warheads with MIRV capabilities. That's one of the only things keeping China safe. Without means to retaliate, others would have invaded China again like they did in the last two centuries.
I love China, and they do not pose a threat to humanity! They are hardworking and kind people. They are growing and achieving astonishing results because they are a country with a great education system that helps them grow and a government that incentivizes that!
Das stimmt.
confusianism at work
中国哪构成威胁了？发动战争的一直是美国😅
The fact Raimondo states she's more worried about the scalibility of the Huawei chip indicates her true intentions of hitting at the commercial success of Huawei instead of the security concerns with such a chip. Military demand for such a chip would be puny and should be more concerning rather than the scability of such a chip.
That, and the realisation that the “they stole it from us” tag is rapidly losing efficacy - when the market has been completely taken over by a new thing, no one will remember or care if it was or wasn’t copied from an old thing (cf. 80s Japan).
The security is just an excuse, the real aim is to stop China's technological rise and eclipsing the US both in technology and economy.
Military needs chips at a scale. Ongoing huge amounts of them and fast.
Security issues of a chip. Never knew chip got security issue
@@swarasyam Maybe i should hv phrased it as security concerns regarding diverting chips toward military use which has always been brandished as the perfect excuse to sanction and ban exports to China. But as I pointed out the use of such chips would be puny in weapons first because they would be too fragile to withstand the real life conditions of weapons like misdiles or tanks unlike your phone. So military applications are more likely to use older chips with a more rugged demeanor rather than a tiny chip to maximize energy consumption and portability .
‘Control China's high-tech development’--This dishonorable attempt was destined to fail from the very beginning.
it's doomed to fail only because China is already a powerful country, the same strategy worked for smaller countries like Japan and France, but yes, it stemmed from despicable motivation.
Yes, I agree. Just look how they are leading in so many fields, high speed rails, hypersonic weapons, 5G, EVs...
And it's pretty hypocritical coming from a country who adopted and regarded as the best capitalism in the world which its policy core should be let the market works by itself with little to none government government intervention; in other word let economy moves freely 😅
@@001sepwsp What did the US do to France?
@@ArawnOfAnnwn kidnapping frence CEO
What's even more impressive about the Mate 60, other than the chip which most of the western media focuses on is the rest of the phone. It's made up of completely domestic Chinese technology, especially in critical areas like 5g modems, the OS, camera lens and sensors, LTPO displays, etc the list goes on. This rapid development of domestic technology on various critical smartphone components is more than impressive.
Ah yes, the high tech *Android* phone with an *ARM* chip. 🙃 Partnership before sanction: 5G Qualcomm, Camera sensors SONY, OLED display SAMSUNG, oh and looks like they still allowed to use memory module from SK Hynix 🇰🇷
@@thedduck not Android, it's Harmony OS.
@@Aamirmhmd99😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Aamirmhmd99 yea bud sorry it's *Android* go Google it 🙃
@@thedduck ARM doesn't sell chips. They license them. They are a British company so the U.S. can't stop them since they don't have 'U.S. technology' in their design architecture. BOE makes the OLED chips and YMTC has the latest NAND flash chips tech.
In an olympic:
US: Raise the bar higher
China: Jump over the bar
US: China is banned
That's like table tennis or was it diving? Anyway, they only allow two contestants from each country to compete because they don't want China to win gold, silver, and bronze. Whereas, in track, they can have three for tracks and fields. I wonder who set up those rules? LOL.
@@1313hymei first know that bro ty
Lies again? Ezlink Card USD SGD
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Well America doesn’t copy everyone like China and other trash countries
It's a bit arrogant to assume China wouldn't catch up at pace, in my view. They're the world's best manufacturer, have a population of 1.4b people, the world's largest market for chips, and every year they graduate almost ten times more engineers than the USA. The USA needs to have a domestic chip supply for sure. But to assume they can outclass China at what they do best, manufacturing... I'm not so sure.
You really need to look up the supply chain of chips.
It’s literally the most advance tech to make in the world and requires much of the world to make.
OK wumao.
Yep Elon Musk said the number of smart and energetic people in China is way more than USA.
This will get US govt to speed up their Sabotage Strategies in the name of Them being savages and backwards again.
@@JigilJigilOK CIA bot
So basically a developed country wants to restrict a developing country from getting developed
China is developed country.
@@techcloud2510Nope. Still a developing nation with lots of poverty. Manufacturing stuff for the world doesn't mean you own the tech. China is getting there however, with warp speed.
@@roenin i hope so
China is actually a developed country. No poverty, all electrified homes, best infrastructure in the world, more advanced tech than any country in the world. What else you need to be developed? They also left US behind in PPP and has more than 12,000$ gdp per capita for 1.4 billion people. WHAT ELSE YOU WANT FOR A DEVELOPED COUNTRY? Even their universities are the best in all of Asia as well.@@roenin
@@plusultra7258 I thought you wanted be sarcastic at first. Dude, if you know any better than the World Bank or IMF, you must be one highly regarded individual and your nation of origin should treat you like royalty. Don't know about their universities, there are some high ranking ones (Top 16), but I doubt this is enough to consider them leading in science or tech in any way. They are part of the BRICS nations, therefore an emerging nation amongst others like India, Brasil, Russia and South Africa. Do you consider these as developed as well?
How China is able to keep moving forward despite the extreme hostility from the whole western world is amazing.
Yeah. The Western world is the collective party that's hostile. Yuh huh.
Why do you copy other people's comments everywhere?
What hostility?
信息不对等
They're just smarter. I find it hilarious how they keep saying China cannot innovate. Yet, all the top scientists and researchers at the top tech companies and universities are all Chinese
China : Breath
USA : thats not allowed
LOL
World: Chinese lives matter
USA stops progress never stops anyone
well done china
破案了，虽然人均碳排放低，但总量高，不允许呼吸也是很正常的事情
@@joexu2714 Not to the world to many crooks
The fact that America can do all this nonsense to other countries is what annoys me. It’s all normal for them to delay other countries’ development.
Biden gives 12 billion to Israel for war but chaina is giving 40 billion dollars for semiconductor research now you think about who will win Chaina/ USA
Its not nonsense. Why would we let our enemies get their hands on the best chips in the market. They made the right dececision here. Chinas goverment is to blame for this not the US
Because we are powerful and have earned it sit down and wait your turn
@@kawaiihikari0looooooooooooool, thats the saying of a blind domed man
@@kawaiihikari0 okay keyboard warrior.
Honestly, I wish them luck in making the smallest chip possible. I am not a fan of sabotaging progress of one to keep another ahead. It is not very "fair play". So, no matter the consequences, I wish them luck.
Looks like US knee-capping (Tonya Harding style!) on China didn't work out very well.
Maybe you should go back in school again...if you even went to school. The world is not operate the way you think...those are basics of history
@@markomaric903 Racist spotted! Giving baseless reasoning for your own racist views. Get well soon!
@@AmritZoad 🤣🤣🤣
@@markomaric903 Its kind of ironic that you use such terrible grammar as you tell someone to go back to school. Also, history is NOT the correct subject in school to learn about how the world works. The correct subject is called political science. And there is not one right answer in political science. There are different strategies and theories, and they include a lot of discussion about the ethics of acquiring and maintaining power.
Its not about national security its all about national jealousy 😂😂😂
We know. China is jealous of USA.
Why are u so sharp and insightful on the behavior of Americans 😂😂😇😇
It's about national insecurity
True
100% true
I can witness that Huawei mate phones are the Best till today.
Bought an 2018 till today working perfectly and holding battery whole day
best phone
America seems to like to constantly underestimate China's capabilities and always come out surprised
Not really the pentagon usually overestimates them. And they are still far behind
The first Kirin chip was released in 2012. Huawei always have their own chip.
to be fair. americans assume because they are liars that china must also be liars. americans dont understand that if china lies, china lies to look weaker not stronger. anyone that understands chinese culture would know this but most americans can't understand it.
@@kawaiihikari0in terms of the military, sure. technology though, China's caught up really fast.
@@kawaiihikari0SPACE STATION
US should get itself better inventions rather than trying to stop others from progressing.
The US doesn't design chips, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing does. Nice try tho...
Sadly, US hasn't been interested in anything but controlling other countries since like 1960s. Basically immediately after moon landing, they cut majority of science budgets, and ever since then USA has been trailing others in sciences and advances. America only dreams to achieve the same scientific progress that Asian region has now.
Maybe China should get its own inventions then instead of trying to steal them from the west? Its not a human right to be allowed to buy memory chips and lithographic machines imao
@@tristinx270Huawei has also been caught in the past stealing tech.
@@tristinx270 LOL, the US does design the chips, especially the high-end one. Taiwan only manufactures it. You can literally find a lot of articles about it online. Nice try tho...
At the rate Huawei was advancing in 2018, they would've overtaken Samsung and apple by now. Their phones were just perfect. Every year they would release a phone with cameras 2 years ahead of the competition. Their chips were also very efficient even if it was a little slower than the competition. Their phones would never overheat or slow down. My 250 dolar 2016 Huawei still runs perfectly without lag to this day.
This is so true. A lot of people missed this fact. They were starting to devour the market but the bullies decided to put them on life support with the sanctions and the anti-china propaganda.
I agree with you
But i have a question
Why china afraid of japan technology in other things😂
@@ankurkushwaha3840 your question doesn't even make sense... like dude wdym?
@@ankurkushwaha3840you make no sense.😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@samvigil1333 tujhe sense bn rha hai kya bhut 😂😂
How rediculous it is western countries colonized China for 100 years, and then they keeps coming back talking bad about China. Are they any better?
发动战争的也是他们 美国媒体无底线煽动仇恨言论😅
Honestly, as a consumer, I am excited for more competition in chip manufacturing. The GPU prices, not to mention car prices have increased due to monoply in this sector.
China has Moore Threads, which is a domestic GPU design company using entirely their own architecture. Their GPUs are not too reliable at the moment, but they could improve in the future
Yeah I wish more countries jumped on board and became competitive.
@wedmunds more like China can "borrow" patents and see how they work and fix or change their flaws.
U bet everyone will buy cheaper chips, much much cheaper.
@@SlikkWitItDing ding ding 🎉
Using variously means to hold your opponents back instead of improving yourself is just disgusting. Imagine the same happening in sports competitions.
The US will do whatever needed to maintain number 1 status in the world even if they shift competition rules to them.
@@GK-qc5rywell, that's how the world works. it's unfair and disgusting, but that's how the world works. the USA can't compete with china anymore so they sanction them
No one is holding China back. They are stealing Western technology and use it to manufacture products and often sell as their own products. Why do we need to give our manufacturing tech when they start to threaten the world and support Russia?
That's how the world works
Imagine a country not respecting IP patents from other countries and disrespectful of other countries democracy.
Its really nice to read this comment section and be reminded that most people are smart enough to understand that this has very little to do with security. ❤
Nothing to do with security and everything to do with insecurity. Goes to show who's really in control in America, the barons who believe they're entitled to running the world and will stop at nothing to ensure that control.
@@CaidicusProductions Im sure you want china to have control... oh what is that you want to be in control?
Most of the comments are probably from people outside the US.
@@Amidat because there is a large population outside the world & we don`t care abou US,
@@CaidicusProductions you do realise american sanctions in china were done because Taiwan and Japan BEGGED for it. They were stealing their chips and selling it to america. I love how everyone ignores the other chinese people suffering from the ccp, and just blame america like the simplminded hivemind of commies they are.
5 years ago: China will _never_ catchup in chips
3 years ago: China is 20 years behind
1 year ago: China is 7-10 years behind
6 months ago: 7nm? Thats 3 years old tech!
Last month: yah, but their 5nm chips cost more because of multipatterning!
This month, China: our AI chips outperform Nvidia's most common chip in some tasks
3 years from now?
"3nm overcapacity in chips!!!"
3 years ago: China can't make DUV
Last year: ok china can make DUV but they cant make EUV
3 years from now?
Next year, for EUV lithography machines made by China.
Doesn’t China has rights to develop technology?
Not if they challenge US hegemony
Yes, but US would depress or contain any country which can threaten its hegemony. In reality, it's just a wishful thinking because in nature, Chinese is a technological civilization. Once China fully establishes its advanced chip/semiconductor design and manufacturing capability, US companies would lose the Chinese market. Even worse, the Chinese made chips could come back to compete with US companies.
Two sets of rules, one for friends of the US (eg. Israel), one for “others” (eg. China). It’s sickening,
@@coffeebreak100Israel should be supported. I rather Israel rule that region that a bunch of mororns following the infamous "religion of peace"
BUT, what USA is doing to china is unfair.
NO! Chi Na has NO Right!!
Congrats to Huawei, making such a breakthrough under the toughest sanctions ever applied upon a single company. Sanction Stories of Toshiba and Alstom by US make Huawei such a respectful company.
Congrats to the CCP for making communism great again ! Is that what you were trying to say?!
Yes congrats to them all, but when you are backed by a government, sanctions don't really matter.
@@Allseeingeye-in7qk😂
Advantage of communism we hate so much.
因为日本是美国的殖民地 所以更本没有能力对抗 法国也不可能反对美国的制裁
The Chinese youth is also among the smartest and most hardworking groups in the world. On the other, there are some US youth who can't name all the continents and spend hours on social media platforms and unproductive stuff. China is not only going to catch up with the US but also surpass them.
How rude, dont you know US teens have a very heavy burden and tough decision they have to make:
If they identify as a non-binary Chinook helicopter 😂
they arent that different from kids from any other country, Chinese schools just give far less freedom to them, and far more pressure
@@fishywafflefrieseven they excelled in video games😂😂😂🤣
while we here are being assured by the incontinent mouthpiece on office🙄
Already the US is in a trade deficit with China by more than 300%. US has lost, it's only a matter of time the world acknowledges that. Only intelligent people knows that and started making smart moves already 😊
@@fishywafflefriesseems like it works.
Pushing him only makes him stronger.
What did the US expect when they cut China off of the advanced Semiconductor technologies ? Like they were just gonna say "Well that's it guys, we can no longer get American technology so we'll just drop all our ambitions and dreams and just sit back and relax" ?
I would expect America to have that expectation from China like you describe - "Well that's it guys, we can no longer get American technology so we'll just drop all our ambitions and dreams and just sit back and relax" It's very American things to expect such things from the rest of the world. They think they are special and exceptional LOL 😅
Not all of us, but many, the wrong many.@@kolviczd6885
Yes. That’s exactly what the US want China to give up its ambitions. That’s what hegemony means.
US did it to Japan… and Japan couldn’t fight back cuz it’s not a fully sovereign country
The US expects that the average Chinese people would lose their jobs, starve, lose their minds, fight each other on the streets, then overthrow the Communist government.
My respect to China 🇨🇳, like seriously innovating on their own when they were restricted 🚫 and doing it without any fanfare 🫡🫡
I had a huawei phone back in 2020s,it only survived for 3 months
stop laying I've had Huawei P30 Pro for like 6 years, better then iPhone 12,14 or and all other Iphones Below what I've said..@@hiicyuivbi
@@hiicyuivbi And I had an iphone 7 back in days, only lasted 3 weeks before the battery overheats. So whats the point? And I'm old enough to remember there's Samsung phone that just explodes for no reason, too.
I'm glad also maybe they won't invade Taiwan cuz Taiwan produces better chips.
@@hiicyuivbi My iphone 14 pro only survived for 3 day
How the world let the US achieve this kind of power is crazy to me, no wonder China and Russia are always in conflict with them, it’s a matter of pride, how another country can dictate how another advance? It’s crazy 😵💫
USA has influence in different corners of the world. America will do what it takes to stay #1
China and the USA definitely trade blows in terms of power and influence. Russia is incredibly backwards though and these days even it's citizenry isn't as educated as it once was
You know who let the USA achieve this kind of power? Germany.
@@SK-tk6bi Germany and his guilt ridden post war government, also Japan
I liked how you tried to sneak Russia into the conversation.
huawei launches quietly online.. theyre so humble that means theyre not aftering to compete but to provide for chinese people..
i... did not expect such a rational, intelligent and unbiased comment section under a BLOOMBERG video of all things
I applaud all americans who view the world with positivity instead of endlessly falling into anger, envy and fear.
哈哈哈,没想到吧
It shows that people’s eyes are sharp！👀
Well said. And it's encouraging to find people remain so sensible and fair in spite of all the smearing and disinformation about China by the "main stream" media of the West. World peace depends on the sanity and sensibility of the people.
US sanctions always turn out against US policies, however, we must appreciate the resilience of China and the major breakthrough they have achived.
2:49 Hey do you see, its SK hynix XD I wonder where that is from
Stop the US sanctions now and china will make iphones feels inferior
@@rickjansenhugsnaxironically it was Trump who began these restrictions. But his administration decided not to include DUV machines. Biden fixed that but it was too late
Cuba, Iran, Russia, North Korea. venezuela. Clearly sanctions do nothing.
@@tiefblau2780 China can produce its own memory chips, maybe these are in stock
The growth of Chinese technology is the best thing to have happened for developing nations. The more China grows the less Western countries are able to enforce their imperial ideologies.
Lol.
Calm down.
Yes I agree, when Chinese high tech matured. I want to buy chinese and dropped my reliance on West products. West have a history threatened my country and that reflex my country know what to do in the future.
@@tin-n-tan Lol.
You just mad.
@@EastMilk mad about what?
China has an imperial ideology of its own.
chinese are so resilient..I wish that SEA people follow their footsteps
not the pinoys
Needless to say, the United Sactions drove the Chinese people to advance their own technology.
HAHA. Interesting acronym for US.
You mean steal more technology? Yes they did.
I support fair play for china buf you're saying absolute bs too.
sanctions don't make progress for a country.
china IS getting powerful but a lot of that is because so many USA's businesses have operated in china over the years. tradings between USA and china were always huge.
china owns a big part of their success to USA, and now they've already learned enough to compete with USA.
>> the United Sactions drove the Chinese people to advance their own technology.
@@tooltalk seems the only thing here that's not advanced here is your brain since you can't tell apart the noun advance and the adjective advanced
It's disgusting to hear humans holding back other humans progress because of national pride and national security. What a disgusting world we live in that is destined for conflict.
Ah. ..destined for conflict. That’s exactly what the US wants. The US knows they hold the tech in hands. So the US would squeeze the lifetime until the opponent (although China thinks in terms of partnership) surrenders and gives in to the US demand or until the opponent fight back with military. Military is the US strength. The US would use proxy wars or its pawns to fight. The US military industrial complex loves wars. That’s why would never allow to dismantle NATO.
Tbh only the US does this in large scale, to allies and enemies alike.
True
National security is just the mean, the end was always profit, control and profit
Not even about national security. The lower-nm chips that are sanctioned are not as commonly used as higher-nm chips because the former are typically not robust enough for military applications.
respect the Chinese for their resilience and hard work...
And theft of course. Don't forget all the industrial technology theft
What has China done wrong? Because they work well?
Previously, Western capital placed production in China. Cheaper workers.
But now China is not slaves. They have their own capital. And they have moved away from the market of price competition, towards the competition of innovation. That's what they "did wrong."
As an eecs Chinese PhD in US, thanks to the restrictions, the salary in China in our major has increased at least 8 times during last 5 years.❤❤
lol
wr
❤这是科技人才应得的收入
卧槽😂😂😂😂
My P20 Pro was awesome and lasted me 6yrs without any issues. This whole tech war sucks for the consumers, although i do understand the principles behind it.. humans are just not capable of coexistence, yet.
haha I have a P30 bought in 2019 and it works well, as a backup phone though😂😂I have to admit that P30 is the first to put a periscope camera in a phone, and it still works better in taking photos than many phones in 2023
same here bro, P20 Pro fam! 😄
Still bad for the environment ultimately if people are switching phones frequently. It's all about capitalism these days
@@clickbaitpro Haha I think as long as we can recycle the electronic waste, it's not a bad thing. It's normal for people to switch phones about every 3 years, cuz that's the design lifespan of a phone
Yes! My Huawei P30 pro has been used for almost 4 years. It still works pretty well.
The tougher sanctions you put on us the more united we are to make something new and even better. As a Chinese from Taiwan, China. I am teaching the Huawei stories to my nieces and newphews and encourage them to be more devoted to study harder and better and I am very happy to they all so determined to study harder and hope one day they could devote their skills and knowledge they learned to help our Chinese companies create more advanced technologies coz now we understand the West isn't reliable we must rely on ourselves. Thank you again Americans let's us becoming more united and stronger and self reliant.
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Do you call them "Huawei stories" because they're fiction? There's video, you realise, showing the Huawei stores empty while the Apple stores were full in China when those phones released. Don't thank us Americans, we know you what you say about us on your social media when you think we're not looking.
Nice troll bot.
@@AL-lh2ht Anything you don't like can be considered a robot or "evil". Great, continue to live in your own world and enjoy your Truman moment.😁
@@AL-lh2htlame reply dude
Chinese government had been trying for many years to get the tech companies to make domestic chips.
No amount of subsidies and incentives could get them to risk in a difficult investment, it’s much easier just to import them. In 2022, the country imported $415.58 billion worth of semiconductors compared with $365.51 billion in crude oil.
Thanks to America, China managed to do what their government tried hard and failed to achieve.
At this point it’s too late, if they can domestically produce 7nm chipsets, they have the knowledge to go forwards.
Unlike russia whose microchip industry is a laughing stock.
as an avid huawei device user, i can easily say that huawei was years ahead of all other competition back in 2018 when ban by USA was imposed, the world was shocked when a device like mate 20 pro came and it was atleast 3-4 years ahead of both samsung and apple. But to china's luck/hardwork they are figuring a way out of the crippling ban that is imposed and i am pretty sure USA won't be able to contain them
Cope
Huawei is the best phone I ever used. The ridiculous trade war started by the US will end about as well as their failed war on drugs and on terrorists. I remember when we used to be a world leader. Now the US slogan is if you can't beat em... ban em...
The marketing was great but the Mate 30 Pro was horrible... without Google Playstore... huge and the falling screen was a disaster to write with the keyboard... and forget to use it on 1 hand... impossible to write correctly... 4 months and it was into a trash (I gave to a family member who got so many problems that it was in a cupoard)... I tried to install all .apk... but banking app do not have and many other didn't exist (they do not provide out of the playstore)... a huge nightmare). The pictures were great though !
@@bluepawn thats the thing usa took the gamble to hurt both china and meanwhile took a great hit onto their private industry bcz they were too reliant on chinese market, usa thought they will keep china at arms length atleast for a decade or so without the tech, but when has the world really been able to fend off china...
I had the p30pro in the 2020. That phone was years ahead of Apple and Samsung. That's why they got the sanctions..
I work for a Japanese company in China what I am feeling is there are more and more alternative domestic parts、technology in china
The sanctions made by us actually push China to improve the tech ability faster than ever before.
I fear losing my job one day but i am proud of them
absolute bs. sanctions don't help a country in any way.
china is progressing, but not because of sanctions.. they're progression because china is a huge country , with a huge population and most of them have a mid education, that means there will be a lot of smart people in this huge population.
china's economy is very huge too thanks to the big tradings between china , USA Europe Russia middle east and other countries.
that's why they're progressing. huge country,huge resources, huge economy, and education.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq Actually, it is helpful. Before the sanctions imposed by the United States, many Chinese companies would not choose to use domestically produced products that are more expensive but of lower quality. However, everything changed after the US sanctions. Companies are worried that their products will become unusable due to sanctions one day, so they can only use domestic products. As many such companies choose domestic products, domestic companies will have more profits and thus more funds for research and development. This ultimately forms a virtuous cycle, greatly accelerating the localization of China’s high-tech industry.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cq erm. Instead of buying from America now they have to build their own. There is nothing can push progression more than that.
@@aaaaaa-hh8cqso can India compare to it?
First phones and now EVs. China is dominating. Thank you for creating a multi-polar world.
@blengi
1 second ago
and yet you choose to use am,eric,an in\/ented internet, pc tech and websites to live l'if,e
I really look forward to buying my first hwawei phone
Well done China, truly inspiring for the rest of the world to develop their own industries and escape the bullying 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
So is so? because in my country they lobbied so we can get products make in China in detriment of our own industry. In times of quarantine we were forbidden to send packages among ourselves but Chinese products were exempted and allowed. They are giant bullies against the third world.
OK wumao.
But wasn't it the "bullying" that inspired China to double down on chip manufacturing?
Just goes to show that countries need to aim to be more self sufficient. That way sanctions won't hurt so much.
Okay, escape bullying indeed.
Raimondo just united all Chinese to fight this open insult of the century. All Chinese from all over the globe united. Thanks miss Raimondo.
自从雷蒙多女士代言华为，发布了mate60pro之后，我发现我对她的爱已经无法抑制了。希望她在代言AI芯片方面继续努力！😍😘😍
垃圾手机
@@alextyy 哎呀呀。。。急了！真的着急了
@@atracy7686 我买个Mate 60pro，你买个Apple 15 Pro，然后咱们互换，谁不换谁傻b。干不干？
@@alextyy 干。价钱一样就可以。不过我也可以自己买一部，这样你有一台mate 60，我也有一台mate60.多好
The production quality is top-tier. Feels like I'm watching a professional documentary!
The US should stop trying to restrict competition. It's a poor business practice.
true, economic protectionism is a no-go in a globalized world. unfortunately for us, western economies will suffer, along with its people.
Best business practice plus we ban your plastic junk from being sold in our allied countries. Cry more
As video said. US restricted company that's German to sell equipment. Tells you everything who is the boss, Germany is under US hand so is the EU@@techcafe0
you want another country to have better weapons than us?
@@redbean9410 this video is about smart phones and innovation. Somehow you make it about weapons. Typical me me me..
If US sanctions were not imposed Huawei is the world largest smartphone manufacture for sure. Seeing how well huawei is doing with this much of trouble its just amazing. As a huawei user um so proud of them
CCP Agent spotted^^^
You're likely not actually a Huawei user, though, given the amount of people in China were flooding Apple stores while leaving Huawei ones empty. Because all that Huawei phone was, is just a knock-off of Apple's newest phone.
@@VaeldargObviously you don’t understand Huawei enough. Huawei is not a typical technology company. It is a social enterprise that is owned by employees. There is no western capitalists who come to destroy companies. Huawei’s mission is to make China strong in technology and to close the gaps with western countries. Huawei is competing not just with Apple, it is also competing with Google, Tesla, Qualcomm, Nvidia, Microsoft, Oracle, ChatGPT, etc. 60% of Huawei’s employees are in R&D, the highest percentage in the world.
Yes, but the long-term outcome would be Huawei still being the largest and most powerful smartphone manufacture, but with all its supply chain being shared within China.
@@VaeldargApple is now declining in China as their government is promoting Huawei more. The Chinese have been boycotting US brands recently.
1998
US: You are not allow to enter International Space Station.
China: 🥲🥲🥲
24 years later, 2022
China: Finally! I made it by myself.
US: You have to share it with us!
USA is lost and no more money and cannot send military aid in Ukraine bcuz they are no more money and lost😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
5:07 “ASML hasn’t been allowed to export its EUV..”. Not allowed by who?
America apparently. US pressured Holland government (ASML is in Holland).
As an African nothing makes me happy like China showing the middle finger to the US🤣.
Viva China. They dont stealbour resources. They trade fairly and empower a country. Not like the USA start a war set uo a base and steal all the resources under people noses and dead bodies. We have seen too many of thlhat scenario in this decade from USA
Military doesn't use 7nm or less on equipment. They use 32 nm or 64 nm chips. Small high-end chips are used for cell phones (due to small size).
Thanks to hawkish US policies, Huawei has now become a source of national pride and has the entirety of the Chinese market behind them. Great.
Most people in China earn like 150 dollar per month. You think they can afford a Huawei phone? There is a stark difference between poor and rich, on the east coast where rich people live they mostly just buy iPhones. Go to Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen. Look around what phone people use... ah yes iPhones. Go look there for yourself. Go visit another country for once.
@HermanWillems everything you said is an ABSOLUTE lie, most Chinese people earn far more than that, and the rich in the country mostly use Chinese branded phones, also even the iphones being used are made in China, so they're essentially Chinese phones, you don't know what you're talking about
@@HermanWillemsI live both in US and China, I should say what you said is totally wrong, not true. 150 usd is a salary for one day not a month in China. also in china, you pay 7 dollars a day for food in restaurant and in US you spend at least 30 usd per day for food in restaurant and you eat drug beef. But you cannot make 150 per day in US. That is the sad fact why so many Americans escaping from US to China recent years. Never spread rumors, shame on you
@@HermanWillems All the people saying China has a low income rate forget to mention the fact that China has a lower cost of living, meaning that food, water electricity, medical costs and housing are alot more cheap than in America. Imagine paying $8 for 20 eggs in California.
@@lolcatjunior my chinese collegue his apartment in Shanghai makes him a millionaire. Which is probably more expensive than YOUR house. So no. There is just big difference between poor those almost or more than 50 to 60% of chinese people get 150 dollar a month.
The US level of narcissism in beyond comprehension.
Luckily, America doesn't hold the monopoly on intelligent people. If you incentivize, allow and support them to do their thing, they will make amazing stuff. So this is hardly surprising.
Correct. Fare thee well
I disagree. Why are all the Chinese moving to America then?
@@Sanyu-Tumusiimeall Chinese are moving to USA? There 1.5 billion Chinese
Why not disagree - I was focussing on the principle and you are focussing on a practice.
You obviously have - the inside knowledge. I just meditate and think.
Fare thee well.@@Sanyu-Tumusiime
Was wondering about these figures.
One is allowed to 'decorate' - one's argument - with wobbly numbers - though.
But if it wobbles - too much - one goes off the road.
Fare thee well.@@icecube3645
If I was taiwanese, I would be proud of China. Kinship before friendship
Chinese/Asian people rise up
if i were
It is obvious that the best way to defeat a country's industry is to dump it at a low price, not to impose sanctions.
Especially for a country with a huge internal market like China, sanctions will only hand over the market to other enterprises.
Shhh…don’t let Biden know.
The most sensible response, but how did the US miss this.
US wants profits too its captialist society, dumping only makes sense for nationalist economies
um, maybe they're actually secret manchurian candidates
China Chip Tech is 7 years behind USA Tech! China make your own tech not STEAL IT!
US: No you not supposed to make your own chips, you should bow and beg! Like the JPN companies did in the 80s.
Japan was going down a very similar path to China, unfortunately, Japan is an island country, small and without resources, in addition, due to its history it gets along badly with its Asian neighbors, in such a way that they had no other option than to kneel and submit, china is another matter...
Cries in Gaokao
The people who lose sleep over this have no idea how lucky they are. Competition from chinese tech companies means better products and lower prices for us consumers.
Based.
I'm looking forward to seeing Nvidia dropping their graphics card price due to Chinese competitions.
competition will always benefit customers
by cutting off their dependencies, you just make 'em independent and self-sufficient
Very nice, you make other people success, but you still didn't want them to success.
China Chip Tech is 7 years behind USA Tech! China make your own tech not STEAL IT!
How could they not mention the fully domestically designed and developed 5G chip in the SoC? That was for me even more impressive than the CPU. Just like that Qualcomm lost the worlds largest market.
Even Apple is years away from making their own 5g chip
b/z lies
This will get US govt to speed up their Sabotage Strategies in the name of Them being savages and backwards again.
There is no "domestically designed" because nobody to design. Only copying is working in china.
@@sidwhodunithuawei is the largest telecommunications company, Apple is the largest marketing company. They are are playing in 2 different fields.
China always beats the odds and America just motivated them more.
Basically they don't want chip competition against U.S campanies
True. In the 90s they banned quality and affordable chips made in Japan. Due to they were better than those made in the US, which were expensive.
@@innocentgoitseone3715 USA is trying to do what it did to Japan in 90s. It wants to crash China the way it did with Japan. The problem is that China is ready to drag USA with it should it come tumbling down.
@@innocentgoitseone3715the different is in those time America was the sole market that consume those kinda amount of high technology so by closing the market suddenly those advanced company lose all their consumer and cannot innovate because no one wanted their stuff anymore.
This time it was different china itself is also becoming the market and big enough to consume and keep the pace for those blocked company to innovate
Not exactly, the US are preventing ASML (a Dutch company) from giving them next gen 3nm chip fab machines. Their aim isn't to protect Dutch companies (US chip fab is behind) but to smite the Chinese.
It's a worldwide network of companies that don't want to give up technological hegemony. While the US is at the center due to its economy and military, it has no real authority over Dutch or Taiwanese companies. They just prefer to enjoy the benefits of being US allies over going with China.
Recently bought a Google Pixel 7 pro to replace my aging P30 Pro. After three months, I decided to sell the Pixel and keep the P30 pro. Huawei devices are well designed and the last two flagships (mate 20 pro and P30 Pro) they made before sanction were ahead of their time!
I had both of those, absolutely legendary phones.
去看看华为的最新的p60吧！在中国已经供不应求！当然，它的价格是很昂贵的。
华为仍然在进步，美国对它无可奈何。
不过现在似乎只在中国销售。因为华为自己的芯片的产能还在提升当中。明年你会看到p70。
We bought a Pixel 8 and had to return it due to a large amount of issues and the tech support could do nothing but asking us to update and reboot. We had bad luck with Samsungs so we eneded up with a OnePlus. A lot better but we still hoped that we could get a Huawei.
@@bpeng2000 oneplus 是中国一个比较小的公司的产品。它们的产品的产量并不大，但是产品比较有特色，质量也还可以。如果你真的期待华为新手机，下半年估计会有p70 ，价格不会便宜，估计在1000到1500美金。
I have my eyes on the new Honor Magic 6 Pro. The only alternative to a Huawei flagship. OnePlus 12 is also on my radar, but it lacks the TOF depth sensor Magic 6 Pro has.
"How did China do it?" does the USA think they are special that China simply cant do the things they can like they are different species🤣🤣
China has millions of STEM graduates each year who are willing to contribute to China's march towards greater scientific and technological breakthroughs. US politicians and war hawks are a delusional bunch. China is unstoppable!
Exactly. I don't think Chinese people spend their time arguing about guns, race, abortion either. Chinese people study and work hard.
It really should not be surprising that if Taiwanese Chinese can build it, Mainland Chinese can as well.
U'know, its about "how did Chinese do it without DEMOCRACY". Americans worship this social system so much that they sincerely believe that people cannot achieve anything without it. Therefore, they came up with a huge ton of lies about the USSR in order not to notice any of its achievements. And when China began to get rich and develop in the early 2000s, in America they began to write a bunch of articles about how China would very soon become a democracy - well, because the Chinese began to live better and now they will have a thirst for democracy, and without it their development will be constrained. What a nonsense. Well, now Americans are forced to learn that others can live and prosper in a different way than Americans.
No, the United States does not have 7-nanometer technology. The best chips in the United States are 10-nanometer technology.
Qualcomm, Apple, Intel, and Nvidia's chips are almost all produced by South Korea's Samsung and Taiwan's TSMC.
6:26 Gina Raimando contradicts herself. Earlier she said her only concern about China chips is only about national security concerns because China can use them in weapon. But then she said after the Huawei phone launch, that she was relieved that China can't produce these chips in big scale.
Indeed if these chips were only for military purpose there is no need for mass production.
You pointed out her lies.
I still remember back in 2018 when US did sweeping sanctions on Huawei. As a dumb 23 old I really swallowed all thr western propoganda and lies behind the sanction. Now as an embedded tech guy I fully understand the US' frustration. They simply cannot loose this war.
Their spy claim on Huawei is laughable. Actually almost none of the accusations the U.S. has on China are substantiated with evidence.
They lost it...
Why is everything a War for Americans?
No matter what US tries, China will do it by themselves for sure. If not the most hard working nation, one of the most hard working nation for a reason and hard work always pays off.
I'm now a huge fan of Chery cars, much like I am of Huawei.
Peasant 😂😂😂😂
@@njnikusha it is called Econ 101
Congrats to Huawei Shocked America With a Smartphone
It's ironic that us itself can't manufacture 7nm chips
it easily can, it chooses not to
@@gothamt9843nope... Intel has been trying for years and failing
@@gothamt9843Intel bought billions of tools from asml decades ago, still couldn't find to to make 5-7nm from US facilities.
@@gothamt9843 lol how kind
@@gothamt9843 of course they can. Just one problem: No one is going to pay double the money for these 'US manufactured' chips when they can easily get it at a much lower cost when manufactured in Asia. USA simply cannot compete with Asia when it comes to keeping manufacturing costs low. Plus, USA does not have skilled human resource readily available to run these large manufacturing plants. So you're statement 'it chooses not to' is untrue!
What would the US have done if China limited the US's access to modern chips?
They'd put an emissions tax on modern chips, of course
China Chip Tech is 7 years behind USA Tech! China make your own tech not STEAL IT!
war
Nuclear war
They'd say manufacture of modern chips the Chinese way are a human rights violation & a direct threat to 'national security' Oh and war...gotta feed the military machine somehow.
The arrogance of some people assuming that only they are entitled to have technology or be a threat. Anyone is entitled to whatever they are able to be. You want to be the best, just the be the best and let the others do their thing
Someone saying American national security =American national jealousy. 100% corrected.😂😂😂
Oh you mean the Country that invented Gunpowder, The compass, Paper, printing and man many others including Ice Cream. 😂😂😂
Idk if this is intended tk be rude or not
the crossbow,the wooden plow,the stirrup,silk,tea,pizza,noodles,........
US behaves like a bully
US is the World bully
All my respects to the Chininese for their skills and knowledge
"Upset" that another country you've been bullying has shown some success?
Exactly the words a petty little servant from a petty little insecure country would say.