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Protestant REACTS to First Catholic Mass! (Cameron Bertuzzi)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2020
- I chat with Cameron Bertuzzi from Capturing Christianity about his first experience of a Catholic Mass (he went this morning!)
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Are you a convert to the Catholic Church? What was your first Holy Mass experience like?
I joined the Church today!! Thanks for being such a great witness through my journey! 😊 God bless you so much Mr Fradd!
I realized I never answered the question 🤦🏻♀️ My first experience was I went with my friend’s family on their vacation. I didn’t know any better so I took communion. I’ve wondered if that contributed to my later conversion
Yes I am a convert!!!! Words could not describe my feeling! Just one word, it was very reverent. I am so happy you took him to a mass!!! Love how you are bringing people to see the catholic faith for what it truly is! I am forever a fan!
I am a convert to Byzantine Catholicism from a protestant background. My first Divine Liturgy blew me away. When the priest held up the chalice containing the eucharist I also had a profound experience, where I felt like my eyes were opened, and I could feel the great weight of my sins on my shoulders. I literally felt like I weighed 1,000 pounds, and was crushed by it.
My first mass was a novus ordo and I was surprised it was so much like a protestant church, I was disappointed to be honest. I did find a Latin Mass and absolutely was blown away adored it. Then corona hit so I've just been learning about the faith so I can convert asap when I can get back to Latin Mass.
I was filled with conviction about the Eucharist and who was present before me during Mass.
I was born into the Catholic Church. Thanks God for this incredible gift. I left the Church because my parents were not religious but I returned. God gifted me with Faith. I’m so grateful 😍🙏🏻
I was baptized, confirmed, and raised Catholic. I became lapsed in high school and I've become much more religious and attending church more now.
Professor Comics God bless 😍🙏🏻
I live in Hungary, Budapest. I was born into the Catholic Church. I have some great priests, I've found my parish 11 years ago. I've been mostly to the Mass of 1970, but also to TLM and Greek-Catholic Mass as well.
@@tarkanyia Are the youth there faithful?
@@meusisto not everybody, in the countryside mostly (in small villages) the old people go to church, but, thank God, there some places, where there is a good priest/pastor and he can hold together the youth.
There are also scouts (scouting was banned from 1948 to 1989) about 8-9000 in the whole country.
As an Orthodox, I hope beyond hope our churches can unite! We need each other. So happy he enjoyed the Byzantine Liturgy!! ❤️
Amen
Amen! May God hear our prayers for unity through the intercession of the Theotokos!
Amen. Sooner the better
MORTALIUM ANIMOS
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI ON RELIGIOUS UNITY
“9. These pan-Christians who turn their minds to uniting the churches seem, indeed, to pursue the noblest of ideas in promoting charity among all Christians: nevertheless how does it happen that this charity tends to injure faith? Everyone knows that John himself, the Apostle of love, who seems to reveal in his Gospel the secrets of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and who never ceased to impress on the memories of his followers the new commandment "Love one another," altogether forbade any intercourse with those who professed a mutilated and corrupt version of Christ's teaching: "If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him: God speed you."[18] For which reason, since charity is based on a complete and sincere faith, the disciples of Christ must be united principally by the bond of one faith.
...How so great a variety of opinions can make the way clear to effect the unity of the Church We know not; that unity can only arise from one teaching authority, one law of belief and one faith of Christians. But We do know that from this it is an easy step to the neglect of religion or indifferentism and to modernism, as they call it. Those, who are unhappily infected with these errors, hold that dogmatic truth is not absolute but relative, that is, it agrees with the varying necessities of time and place and with the varying tendencies of the mind, since it is not contained in immutable revelation, but is capable of being accommodated to human life.
....For the teaching authority of the Church, which in the divine wisdom was constituted on earth in order that revealed doctrines might remain intact for ever, and that they might be brought with ease and security to the knowledge of men, and which is daily exercised through the Roman Pontiff and the Bishops who are in communion with him, has also the office of defining, when it sees fit, any truth with solemn rites and decrees, whenever this is necessary either to oppose the errors or the attacks of heretics, or more clearly and in greater detail to stamp the minds of the faithful with the articles of sacred doctrine which have been explained.”
In short if you want unity, return back to the one true Church of Jesus Christ The Catholic Church in whom you have split from.
Amen
I was a protestant, now a member of a Byzantine Catholic Church.
It's so nice to see a Protestant who is open minded and doesn't consider us "Mary worshippers" . Great video
I have to play a little defense here, but not in the way you think. As a protestant I always battle with people who say that. Most protestants simply do not know or care to learn about church history. Often their view of Catholics are simply from mouths of other Christians. I dunno how many times I defended false knowledge towards Catholics by protestants lol
Know that defenders of the church exist here too haha
@@timsohn7057 I'm so glad to hear that
@@timsohn7057 that's called being honest. And you have my respect for that (doesn't mean much, but I really admire this position because what I see in protestants is actually the opposite).
Danilo Ferreira thanks, but to be absolutely truthful, many people like me, and particularly theologians who actually study church history extensively have a very hard time and are often very lonely lol. We have to deal not necessarily with theological debate as much as simple willful ignorance and sometimes even hatred. I have faced this from catholics too. There are so many misconceptions about protestants as well. I truly feel this is human nature.
I happen to grow up in a very unique environment which blessed me with wanting to learn about church history.
Father is theologian and his mentors are a catholic priest and an anglican priest. They are extremely close to my family. Still have fond memories of spending time with them.
Also, I have two old friends in clergy: Presbyterian pastor and a Roman catholic priest. Knew each other from middle school. We meet sometimes and talk about life and theology, difficulty of them being ministers.
I don’t think many protestants even know a single catholic well enough to even see how they live and serve Christ.
To be frank I am not a good representation of the protestant population, but I always defend misconceptions of all my Christian brothers.
@@timsohn7057 so lucky! Honesty and humility are virtues that can make you a very successful and intelligent person.
My first Mass experience: I thought I would hear a lot more about Mary than I did. It was ALL about God. I didn’t expect that! I also expected to hear a more works based message than I did. I heard the Gospel from the Catholic Church day 1. And noticed everything was about the Gospel. After that I started looking into what is officially taught and practicing devotions of the Church (namely Stations of the Cross) and I was hooked.
I agree. You read at least three passages from the Bible and sing at least a psalm plus the Lord's prayer. This is way more scripture than I got going to any of the protestant denominations I've been a part of. So that really surprised me since you often hear that Catholicism doesn't use the Bible. I also loved in the beginning where the congregation prays to recognize their sins.
joe men I love that! I saw that a while back. Amazing stuff.
D D yes! And in the readings I especially love that the gospel is presented at every Mass. Not necessarily true in the Protestant services if the Pastor is focused on the book of Hebrews or something. He may not read from the gospels at all that day. I love that the gospel is read every time when I go to church now.
Melissa Eberhart so many protestants need to see this comment. Thank you so much for saying this!
Emily Spieker thank you for your kind words! I even did a RUclips video on my conversion story to try to explain these things, lol, if you’re interested. ☺️
I’m a Roman Catholic and Ive never been to an Eastern Rite liturgy. I learned so much in this video. Thank you Matt and Cameron!
Agreed. There was a lot different
I wish there was some nearby. Only an orthodox and i really wish (to the point of tears) we were in communion again
I have a Ukrainian Catholic Church in my town, and I love it there.
Eastern Catholicism is an offshoot of Eastern Orthodoxy and the liturgy and traditions remain very much Orthodox. ruclips.net/video/esmKkuLZI-I/видео.html It's just that they accepted the authority of the Pope but remained loyal more or less to Orthodoxy rituals and Greek language like the Greek Melkite Catholics, Maronites, Eastern European Catholics etc . The Oriental Catholics are very similar to above but also with the added extra step of becoming Chalcedonians as Oriental Orthodox did not adhere to the Chalcedonian principals. Thus Armenian Catholics coming out of Armenian Apostolic Church, Syriac Catholics coming from Syriac Orthodox Church, Coptic Catholics coming out of Coptic Orthodox, the Chaldean Church coming out of the Church of the East (Assyrian, so-called Nestorian although that's not literally true). Here Coptic Catholic liturgy ruclips.net/video/gdgVonBL_gI/видео.html
@@KethenGoesHam You are right orthodox are not eastern rite catholics.
I love that he noticed it's directed-to-God worship vs directed-to-us worship.
THIS
I noticed that is directed to idols.
@@JuanRodriguez-jn7zx yes, the whole mass is about going from one statue/painting to the other and then we worship them😂 (I must mention that this is sarcasm since you obviously believe that nonsence) But all jokes aside, inform yourself about the essence of the Holy Mass before spreading lies.
@@remamili Is a mass, but is not holy.
Read your bible, before defending lies.
@@JuanRodriguez-jn7zx Since you told me to read MY Bible, I assusme you know that the Bible came from the Catholic Church. Maybe you are not that ignorant after all :) Thanks for the concern but I do read my Bible. Im fact, I would like to kindly recommend one of the readings from yesterday's Holy Mass, Romans 13:8-10. I hope you find your peace and learn how to love others since you seem full of loathe.
My husband felt a little left out when he could not receive the Holy Eucharist during our Wedding Mass. He eventually converted, so I praise God that he felt a longing to receive Jesus in the Holy Eucharist.
I hate division amongst Christians it pains me to here you say "CONVERSION ", I personally don't think we should be doing this, I'm orthodox but I attend any church near me whether catholic, protestant, orthodox, pentecostal etc so far as they preach the lord Jesus.
Wow. I can’t imagine missing out on the Eucharist on my wedding day. So good of him to do the wedding catholic for you and sacrificing his pride and hurt for you. So sweet
This video just made my heart so dang happy. As a Catholic with Protestant friends I really have a heart for openness and dialogue. You two are just such incredible witnesses to what Christianity is all about. And to witness God working slowly and kindly and patiently through you Matt, towards Cameron, is incredible. God bless you both.
I was raised Protestant, and my church services were very liturgical. We even sang, “Glory be to the Father. . .” every service. When I converted to Catholicism three years ago, the reverence for Jesus and God during the mass blew me away.
Catholics always say they don’t pray to Mary but they do. I’ve read the prayers and y’all legitimately pray to Mary! It’s crazy! It’s non biblical ! Turn away from the false teachings.
Keyon Mackey - The words to the “Hail Mary” come from Scripture.
Alan Dela that doesn’t mean pray to Mary. Look up the biblical definition of “hail”.
Keyon Mackey - I will say again, the words come from Scripture. I did not say that it meant pray, but then again, it does not say, “Do not pray.” Further, you cannot defend your position merely by asking for the definition of “Hail”. The prayer could even begin with “Greetings” it still would not detract from the acknowledgment and subsequent petition, “Pray for us sinners.” The prayer is merely an acknowledgement of who Mary is and one petition, nothing dramatic or even resembling worshiping or blasphemy. On a motivation that we petition Jesus’ mother read John 2:3-11. And further, if you wish, John 19:26. See if you understand the significance.
When we pray to Mary, we are asking her to pray for us. We don’t worship her. It is similar to you asking a very close friend to pray for you. When you do that, you aren’t worshiping your friend. Rather, you are asking for spiritual help and maybe even some guidance. Since Christians believe Mary is the Mother of Jesus, why not ask her to pray for us?
As a Catholic who has experienced the highs and lows of friendship with my Protestant brothers and sisters, I enjoy witnessing your beautiful friendship and pray that God blesses your collaborative channel if it is in his will for you guys 🙏 God bless you and your families ❤
Hello from the Armenian Church I love all Christians. and Catholics and Orthodox and Protestants
I'm Armenian too!
@a j s Thank you,brother
We should love each other as God love us!
@@mz2535 thank you. God bless you.
I love Poland too.
the day before yesterday I watched the film "September 11, 1683". it's great. The Poles saved all Christian Europe and defeated the turks
Venimus,Vidimus, Deus vicit ✟✊
Hi! We love you and pray for you, our Armenian brothers.
This was great! Respect to Cameron, first time I hear him. I'm a protestant - love the Orthodox liturgy - now journeing towards the Catholic faith. This episode, and Camerons humility and openess, captures everything I'm going through right now. Thank you!!!
May God bless your journey as well 🙏🙏
I'll pray for you and your journey! Hopefully we'll have you soon. God bless you ♡
@@gabrielairenerodriguezgame6136 Thank you Gabriela, God bless you. Greetings from Finland🇫🇮
Mikki S a prayer for your journey home! God bless you!
@@supergene256 🙂👍Thank you. God bless.
So cool to see you guys collaborating again and hopefully more in the future: I’m a Protestant but have a respect for the Catholic and Orthodox Church and love a good deal of their theology like the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. I’m not thinking about converting yet because I can’t reconcile a few things like the papacy and asking dead saints to pray for me, but I’m open to having my mind changed and am looking into it more. As long as we’re pursuing Christ, surely we’ll grow in unity, just as our Lord prayed for in Gethsemane.
Thank you for your honesty! May God bless your journey. I love what you said “as long as we’re pursuing Christ” that’s the point, it’s about God not about our own understanding 🙏🙏
My wife is a catholic convert and it happened so naturally, Christ and Mary guided her gently to the Church. It wasn’t just about her becoming Catholic, it was about Christ 🙏
Hi Benjamin, the point is that the Church does not consider them dead Saints, but LIVING Saints (eternal life) I hope the Holy Spirit inspires you to do the right thing, in fact I'm sure He will. Take care of yourself 👍
The Eucharist brought me to the Catholic Church too. You can't get it anywhere else and is worth converting for if you truly believe it. I had issue with a lot of teachings too but suddenly realized that I may not know more than a 2000 year old church, so I will take the Eucharist and accept the papacy etc. By faith. Hope that helps.
The best way to understand praying to saints is to figure out what it's like to be in heaven. Once you figure that out, it's a no-brainer.
@@johnharkness6304 I agree with the teaching that the saints are not "dead" since they have eternal life. I just meant physically dead. The only time I can think of where someone spoke with a dead saint in the Bible was when Saul spoke with Samuel through a spiritual medium (1 Samuel 28:6-20). The Lord seems to specifically condemn those who would comunicate with the dead (as in, those not physically with us) (Isaiah 8:19). I understand prayer to the dead and spiritual mediums are completely different things, but it's the closest paralel I find in scripture.
We don't worship Mary. We honor her. We worship God. She's the only human being who did God's Will, therefore she is called Queen of The Divine Will.
Could u explain why Mary is the only one who did God’s will pls, we can do God’s will right now too, right? Thanks
Deuteronomy 30:19
Thank you for the resources. I scrolled through the first part of the first and second videos and they seems okay so far but I’ll still have to watch the rest to make my full decision. But from the verses you mentioned regarding my question, Mary is not the only one did God’s will (in the sense that we are all able to do God’s will)?
@@deripfina God made her perfect, spotless, sinless before she was born. Even the angel greeted her with "Hail Mary, FULL OF GRACE." When Jesus died & resurrected, He opened that door for us to follow their (Mary and her Son) footsteps. Doing and living in His DIVINE WILL. Living, means: (Invocation to The Divine Will)
I am nothing; God is all. Father I love You. Come Divine Will
-to think in my mind
-to circulate in my blood
-to look with my eyes
-to listen in my ears
-to speak in my voice
-to breathe in my breathing
-to beat in my heart
-to move in my motion
-to suffer in my suffering. And may my soul, consumed and fused with Your Will, be the living crucifix immolated for the Glory of The Father.
-to pray in me, and then offer this prayer to Yourself as mine to satisfy for the prayers of all and to give to You Father the Glory that all creatures should give You.
-to infuse in me the Faith of Mary most Holy in order to possess You as she possessed You.
-to infuse in me the Hope of Mary most Holy in order to desire You as she desired You.
-to infuse in me the Charity of. Mary most Holy in order to love You as she loved You.
-to adore in me and since Your Will multiplies acts to the INFINITE, thus I intend to give You the satisfaction as if all had assisted at Holy Mass and give to all the fruit of the sacrifice and impetrate salvation for all. Amen.
Mary NEVER did her will throughout her life. She was obedient even when her son suffered and died.
Read The Hours of The Passion by Luisa Piccarreta. Every word is a soul. I wanted to reach The 8th Major Octave (The coming of The New Jerusalem) where there's no more death.
We are still on the 6th Major Octave (The choice of God's prodigal children to return to The Father). The 7th Major (The FIAT of God's children). Fiat meaning, our YES to God. Just like Mary when she said Yes to God's will for her by accepting Jesus to be her Son. To be in her womb even if it means people would stone at her because she is not married yet.
I hope this will help you all to understand what it means to LIVE in The Divine Will. Thank you.
@@deripfina In the name of all, past, present and future, "O SUPREME WILL Come to reign upon the earth. Invest all generations. Win and conquer all and do not delay any longer. Amen.
Ever holy and indivisble Trinity, I adore You profoundly, I love You intensely, I thank you perpetually for all and in the hearts of all, Amen."
Ponder the words of this prayer taught by Jesus to Luisa.
We ask Mary to pray for us
Thanks for being open, Cameron... :-)
I have just returned to the catholic faith and I am loving these videos guys!
I just came into RCC Easter Vigil 2021… from decades Protestant. I owe it to the Spirit while hiking the PCT to seed that to happen. Be blessed Kelly.
My grandma is Irish Catholic I think mass is so beautiful. I’m not really religious but sitting in a large ornate cathedral is a moving experience. Beautiful art and architecture.
Follow your ancestors
I really love these conversations. Hoping we can get a debate between Dr. Ed Feser and Dr. Craig on Protestantism vs Catholicism. The more I study philosophy the more I realize that the metaphysical commitments on the Catholic side r essentially structured. For example, Catholics believe in divine simplicity and a lot follows from this.
Would be awesome, but WLC is not interested in debating topics outside Christianity.
@@DanielApologetics Wdym? He debates atheists all the time. I think you meant he's not interested in debating topics INSIDE Christianity.
@J Holts Yes, this is true of Orthodoxy, too! "There is no complexity in God, only simplicity; He is indivisible & not comprised of parts. Belief in the perfection of the Divinity excludes the possibility of dividing God into parts, since every partial being is imperfect. 'What does the simple nature mean in essence?' asks St. Gregory the Theologian. He answers by saying that if reason desires to investigate the infinite God, it will not find any beginning or end because the boundless extends further than either beginning or end, and cannot be located between them; and when reason surges upwards or downwards trying to find boundaries or limits to its concepts of God, it does not find them. The absence of all boundaries, divisions, & limits is the simplicity abiding in God." -The Mystery of Faith by Met. Hilarion Alfeyev
It's only a matter of time. Cameron is going to soon be launching a "I converted to Catholicism" video. Sooner or later. And i will be genuinely happy that day.
Yes, it will happen soon.
I remember LizziesAnswers, lol
Yes! We’ll just keep praying for him and loving him until and after that
Chris Oliver Dela Cruz Lizzie was a pretty naive teenager back then not this guy
Remember to pray for him! :D
There are churches and there are Christian entertainment centers. One is to entertain you and it’s all about your feelings. The other is all about God. Not you. You come to bow down and worship God.
If there is such as thing as a "God", he must feel very insecure if he needs your "worship"!
@@j.g.8494 It is not God who needs our worship. Worshiping is how we express our gratitude for the source and sustenance of our existence.
J. G. God doesn’t need our worship. We need to worship him. You would never accuse air of being insecure because it “needs to be breathed in”. Breathing air is a necessity, and worship is a necessity.
J. G. Showing your insecurities through your comment lol
Correct!!!
Definitely am happy to hear that you two might potentially collaborate more in the future! It’s your guys’ original conversation that reignited my pursuit of the Lord (and interest in Catholicism). So please do continue with your joint ministry!
I would really like to see this joint channel come together. I’ll be praying for Cameron to come to the fullness of the Catholic faith; I think he would find it very enriching and add zeal to his already enthusiastic evangelistic efforts.
Praying for your discernment and investigation into Catholicism, Cameron! 🥰❤️
Oh my! My heart was just hurting when you were talking about Mary.
She has been the chosen one to be the mother of God
She is the living tabernacle where Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the Father inhabit
The wife of the Holy Spirit who descended upon her
The immaculate conception
She is Our mother left for all humanity at the foot of the cross.
Intercesor for us as she interceded at the Cana wedding.
Her acceptance of the Father’s will, her “yes” to be the mother of Christ, has brought Jesus and the redemption of the World.
The Holy Trinity has given her a place like no other creature
If God has placed her so high, why must we take that place away from her. I love her because she has brought me closer to her son.
Through the Holy rosary we meditate and glorify the scriptures and life of Christ.
What do you mean by the wife of the holy spirit exactly?
No better explanation!!! 🙏🏼🙌🏼📿
David Kanu I think it’s difficult to explain but she had such a strong bond to the Holy Spirit. Let me correct that, not the wife but she had and has an immersion in the Holy Spirit, filled with the Holy Spirit.
@@mari7775 OK I thought so.
Marry was never sinnless where it the bible does it say mary was sinless
Hey Cameron, my wife and I grew up Protestant, and recently started studying church history starting just after the apostles, and it pointed us to the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic. We are in the midst of joining the Roman Catholics. There are so many resources out there that are helpful as I had lots of objections and they were all answered, even with Scripture.
Catholic.com is one of those great resources.
Two others, if you Google who started your church, there is a website with a PDF chart that shows the history of the church, very helpful!
The other is a quote by Cardinal Newman - "to be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant". I sure found this to be true.
@@Hello-ro8fq , please read the Early Church Fathers. Protestantism is SOLA (my fallible private interpretation of) Scripture.
@@Hello-ro8fq , Protestants are Solo Scriptura and Sola Fide adherents. If you are neither a Protestant nor a Catholic, then you are an Eastern Orthodox. (or a Mormon, a JW, an Adventist). Do you make up your own doctrines according to your Sola Scriptura ? If you do so you are a Protestant in practice.
If you are studying history you won't find anything accurate about it because the antichrist catholic trinitarians not only turned the truth to a lie but they also wrote history as a lie calling their lies orthodox hogwash
@@Hello-ro8fq , now you say you are Muslim. You said you are ex-Muslim. You are not Catholic, you are not a Muslim, you are not a Protestant....
@@dieselcowboy777 , That is your opinion. Please, study the Early Church Fathers, they believed in Trinity. Please , show any Orthodox Christian figure who was not Trinitarian.
I’m a cradle catholic last year I went to a Latin mass and fell in love. I would highly recommend it. Latin mass has 2 kind of mass high mass and low mass. High mass has chant through out the mass. Low mass is more silent and you can hear the priest speak.
Can we appreciate the Bob Ross shirt
Happy little clouds
Yes!
Please take him to a Latin High Mass!!!!! Would LOVE to hear about that one!
The solemnity today is missing compared to years ago when I was a Thurifer as a teenager. In procession/recession, the thurible was swung shoulder high and at all corners a 360 was mandatory. Now that's a High Mass!
@@stagwilliams5419 I'm an Aglican/Episcopalian, and I can relate.
Considering the obvious comparison to Rhett and Link, the joint channel should be called “Good Ecumenical Morning!”
Win
I am a Baptist Christian, spent my entire high school life in a Catholic mission school (Vicentians to be precise) and boarding ran by Church Fathers and Brothers.
I can literally relate 95% of this video.
I still remember my first time attending the Catholic church and it was really awkward for me at that time. 😃😃
I'm a mexican Catholic, and I must admit that I have learned a lot in this video.
Yo tambien aprendo mucho de ellos, no se pelean como los protestantes latinos
You're a Catholic mexican..like im a Catholic Italian American and i also learned alot..im very patriotic but im Catholic before anything
@@anthonycaserta9852 Come on, I understand that. And agree with it. In spanish (as you may know from italian) we invert the order of adjective and noun, so when talking in English we have sometimes a moment of confusion when doing that. So making a big deal of it makes no sense, I just wrote how I learned, which actually in spanish would be "Catholic mexican".
On the other hand, Catholics in different regions have slightly different ways, the faith and doctrine is the same, but culture does influence, so we're still different in some way
I appreciate this refreshing video! As a Catholic revert I loved the dialogue, the friendliness, and the possibility of a combined channel. I loved the photos of the Byzantine Divine Liturgy. My heart aches for a revival of beauty and reverence in the Novus Ordo. The spirituality of the Eastern Rite is so rich!
And behold ALL GENERATION will call me BLESSED!! When Mary meets with Elizabeth. No one will ever be able to change that..
"His hair is like mine but Protestant and better" 🤣🤣 pure gold
And today you have become a catholic 👍🔥🎉
Something that I wonder about is that my wife is Protestant and her faith seems based on emotionalism, but God is with you whether you feel it or not... I find that interesting.
She's filled with the Holyspirit that's why. Fundamental Christianity is very doctrinal and most are very well versed in the bible, but we do get emotional as we, if saved are filled with the Holy spirit.
Tess marsh
Yes, my wife is filled with the Holy Spirit, but it’s not the feel good tingle that you get with a good song... that’s emotionalism... that’s southern fake emotionalism built on a foundation of sinking sand! I’ve seen it too much!!!
@@Alexander-fr1kk agree, but the Holyspirit will convict you of sin, will show you how wonderful Jesus is and in that tears and emotional feelings. I'm not a Catholic, as its filled with idolatry and works, and has the blood of my brothers and sisters on its hands.
Tess marsh
Wow you Went from having a decent start to your reply to a 110% ignorant statement first of all the Catholic Church does not have idolatry! If you have pictures of your children is that idolatry? That’s a typical ignorant southern fundamentalism statement... I’m guessing you’re either southern baptist or Pentecostal! The religions run by women!
Tess marsh
And another thing... blood of your brothers and sisters?!!! That’s just stupid!!!
Bruh, you guys should play That Catholic Card Game together and have fun trying to explain all the funny cards to Cameron, with him trying to guess what the cards refer to!
Get this good young man a Scott Hahn book ASAP!!!
@@elijahyoung11 Rome Sweet Home
First should be Rome sweet Home
So glad to see a really good initiative that actually brings different christians to gather around and know each other instead of liturgy-like congregations that pray for union but, at the end of the day, don't actually talk about what distinguishes them.
About the colors and their meaning
Gold
Gold is reserved for Jesus Christ. No wonder, many Eastern Orthodox icons have lots of gold elements, from halos and background to pure gold leaf. This brilliant color symbolizes the divine nature and the uncreated light of God Himself. After all, there is no night in God’s kingdom, only eternal day.
2. Blue
Blue stands for heaven or the Kingdom of God that is not on this earth. Being a symbol of another everlasting world, it additionally shows the infiniteness of the sky. Besides, dark blue is also the color of the Mother of God and is usually used in the religious icon paintings to show her heavenly nature.
3. Red
Red signifies life on earth. It is a symbol of life-giving energy, love, passion, and certainly Christ’s sacrifice. Since it is the color of blood, red represents the saving nature of the resurrection. Therefore, some hand-painted icons have a red background to symbolize the true celebration of life.
4. Green
Green is the color of eternal renovation, hope, flowering, youth, and nature. In Eastern Orthodox iconography, it is usually used to denote where life begins (for example, in the scenes of the Nativity of Jesus Christ and the Annunciation).
5. White
White stands for divine light, purity, and holiness. In religious icons, white clothes usually indicate people who were honest and good in life. Besides, white is also used to depict the robes of angels, the shrouds of the dead, and the swaddling clothes of babies.
6. Black
Being a symbol of death and evil, black is usually used to depict satanic beings, demons, and the infernal abyss. However, don’t think that all monks in black robes are an embodiment of evil. In such a case, black is simply used as part of the traditional dress or a symbol for renunciation of secular pleasures.
7. Purple
Purple is the color of royalty, which was most commonly used in the Byzantine religious icons. It is intended to show the glory of Jesus Christ and the Mother of God.
It is also worth noting that the only color that is never used in Eastern Orthodox iconography is gray. Being a mixture of white and black, it has become the symbol of vagueness and emptiness. As you might have already guessed, there is no place for such a color in the radiant world of beautiful religious icons.
This growing friendship is so much fun! A joint RUclips channel would be great! Can't wait until Cameron becomes Catholic!
"why he hasn't friggin converted already" lmao
He has! He has! Alleluia! May God bless him! 🙏🏼✝️🕊️
Cameron needs the "Catechism of the Catholic Church"! 📖🤓
I would be happy to send him one! [Also highly recommend Scott Hahn's "Rome Sweet Home"]
Send one to Dr Peterson and Ben Shapiro too! I would myself b their danged mailing addresses are impossible to find 😂
Loved it! Great chemistry between you guys. Would love to see you guys reacting to everything from politics to cinema, and how we Christians should engage with the secular culture.
Love the idea of you guys making more videos together. Don't be afraid to address the serious issues that need voices of truth and reason applied to them👍🏼🙏🏻🍻
I grew up in the Catholic church, Total Church. I am the 8 of 11 children, we have nuns and priests in our family. I went to Catholic school from kindergarten to 12 grade. My father was the janitor of my Catholic church/school so we pretty much lived at our church/school as I grew up. My father being the janitor gave our very poor family free education at our very expensive grade school and highschool private Catholic schools.
I'd be interested to see Cameron and Matt react to a traditional Lutheran or Anglican Mass considering they are Protestant, but believe in the real presence and have a lot of liturgical similarities to novus ordo Catholic Mass. I grew up attending a Lutheran congregation, and very often found myself with Catholic friends and classmates and feeling very at home with them. A common joke when splitting people up for sports teams as a kid, the Catholics and wannabe-Catholics (or Catholic-Lites, that is, the Episcopal and Lutheran kids) would be grouped together.
Anyway, I was happy to watch this. Thanks for all you two do.
I invited some of my Protestant friends and family to Mass and they just all assumed they couldn’t get communion. So it was a load off my mind. They did their research.
Kathleen, I am a Eucharistic Minister, both in the Roman Catholic church, and I visit the sick when necessary but mostly on Sundays to administer to them Holy Communion. Holy Communion as you know is very very sacred. Its very name means "Common Union" with God. Its a relationship which is personified only in the Catholic Church. Other Christian denomination also have Communion maybe once a month or more but this gesture is only symbolic. It has no meaning as that bread has no divinity.
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Communion is for everybody who follows Jesus. Do not think you can divide the body of Christ with institutions and Churches of men. The apostles didn't have fancy church rituals like you(Infact they warned about doing such things in the sciptures), nor is this the way they received communion. I take communion everyday, at home, just like the apostles. I don't go to church, church can not save you, only Jesus can save you. It is important to understand that the bread is the literal body of Christ, but each sect has their own way of approaching communion and God honors their efforts.
All churches of men have strayed away from the Truth. Do not think going to a building means anything.
Point is, the church you go to and the denomination you belong to is irrelevant. Go to a church if it helps you, but do not think you can divide Christ, Christ is one. Not everyone who goes to a Church is saved and not everyone who doesn't go to a church is unsaved.
@@JaakkoJohannes Nice thinking. Do what flies your kite the best. In the first place I am happy that you are the follower of Jesus in your own way. Keep doing what is best for you. I have my belief's and I do my own thing. As long as we are good human being and extend love and compassion to other humans, we have made our Creator proud. Stay Blessed.
Your frieds and fam are just fabulous for doing that. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Every time I’m at mass and the father holds up the host and starts to consecrate the host I get a warm feeling all over and I feel like I’m going to cry!! There is no feeling like this. A few weeks ago I went to a mass and they offered the blood and I immediately started crying.
Ahhh, and God is so good! Cameron Bertuzzi is Catholic now. This is so beautiful to watch and look back on. God bless you both immensely! 🙏🏼❤️✝️🕊️
Cameron, you can also look to Scott Hahn's talks to help your journey of discovery. Scott started out trying to disprove Catholicism, and wound up seeing the Truth of it. 😃🙏🏼
Get a copy of his "Rome Sweet Home".
Love that book. I’ve read it in Spanish and English. I also have his Understanding the Scriptures book, a guide to bible study and it is Outstanding.
Plus Steve ray and Dr. Brant. Here the link: ruclips.net/video/faIB-sOBDKk/видео.html .
Rome sweet home is still in my bucketlist.
Greeting for you guys from Indonesia
I am lucky to have a priest here in Sydney that does TLM that is local to me, it has to be one of the best things I have ever done when it comes to our faith.
Is it Fr. Rizzo? Or Fr. Sypher?
@@timothyfreeman97 Neither
Is that at FSSP?
I love when Matt said that the sacred space immediately engages the senses. I remember the Palm Sunday Mass I attended, in which I had what I call “metanoia” after so many years being away from the Church. I was “converted” through the senses first.
I respect how humble cameron is
I have a Protestant wife. I’m Catholic. Hasn’t been an issue we have three kids.
You married out of the church of Christ. Protestants are Staten worshippers!
@@johsiantorres8495 State*
Sanctus Gaming married in the Catholic Church for the record.
@@matthewmartin725 It is good. She doesn't worry that you raise them as Catholics?
That's ok! Not at all my friend. My wife is well educated and also knows her scripture so we have always agreed that our religious beliefs are essentially the same. More alike than different. End of the day every single thing she believes comes from my church. The very name Protestant means to protest the authority of the Catholic Church. Oooo like it’s a boogeyman or something. Incase you don’t remember all Christians were Catholic until 500 years ago this guy Martin Luther an excommunicated priest started a moment revolting against a corrupt Catholic Church called the Protestant movement which was heavily involved in government at the time amongst over issues. Anyway Protestants are Christian brothers who don’t like the traditions passed on by the church fathers. When we were dating we would go to each other’s churches because her Protestant church in la was like an all day thing. with really good food the whole works. So I would always go. Since hers was so long she never had issues going to mass with me. When we moved to Arizona we would go check out all the churches and the Protestant churches here are way different believe different things of course and none are like her old church. They are all like rock concert, day care, want your money and help with recruitment types in our area here. So for utility we would go to mass as a family because I was busy so was she we had our hands full and just appreciated the consistency of the 1 hour mass schedule vs the rock concerts would carry on and then they want you to stay and eat and play and yeah like I mentioned. It’s an all day thing. So after attending mass for a while she began to get curious about it ask me questions which lead to her conversion. Like most Protestants attend a Catholic mass and would say “wow it’s really boring.” Stand up sit down kneel rinse and repeat lol oh yeah they are always surprised all the art and statues are of Jesus and not The Virgin Mary like they think some lies about all that. priests wear strange cloths and whatever else . And I say ya I know the traditional I love that stuff. And I really do. So I like the old traditional. So she would ask more and more and everyone knows Protestants who dig into the early followers of Jesus and what they believed and how they worshipped god vs this new jeans wearing rock concert promoting pastors who are most certainly more often than not, building their own personal kingdom’s and not god’s kingdom. Like I said earlier take her in and let her be surprised by what an amazing church the Catholic Church really is.
Good point about the priest « with his back to the people ». I go to a NO Mass with a good holy priest who started ad orientum to the delight of myself and other young people in the church but has had stop for some Sunday’s and weekday masses because he received so much criticism from the older members of the church. I wish he could just explain why it is done to the church.
Agreed. First experienced ad orientum at my colleges Newman chapel and I love it. However part of that love came from the chaplains proper explanation. He had a small handout in the vestibule for the duration of lent while we celebrated the mass in this style.
Pope Benedict (then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger) wrote a book on the liturgy long ago in which he said that the image created by a priest facing the people across the Altar was an image of a community that worshiped itself!
Alison Purcell what a good priest! Encourage him and pray for him and the older members in your church🕊
Christopher Kelley could you share the title of that book? I want to put it on my to read list. I’ve only started to read Pope Emeritus Benedict’s book Truth and Tolerance.
@@sarahsabino7279 I wish I could remember the title. It was "new" around 1994, or so. I hope that helps identify it. He was Cardinal Ratzinger then.
We really take for granted the diversity of our faith. My visit to the Catholic Mass was also a rich experience.
As a Catholic I love the Orthodox mass, expecially the singing....
I'm a huge fan of Cameron and I love how you two work together
I really enjoy listening to you two together. I’d subscribe to any channel you produce.
About saints in heaven pray for us remember revelations where the saints in heaven are collecting the prayers of saints on earth and bringing them to the throne of God with incense.
They are notnpraying for you. Why would they??
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John 3:13
I am praying for your conversion Cameron - I think you are on the way to being Catholic! Love the idea of sharing a channel.
We are all adopted sons and daughters of our heavenly father, and Jesus is our God and our brother. Mary his Mother and his Mother is our mother , he commands us to honour our mother and father , along with Jesus we honour our Mother Mary
9:16 "So this was just more of a service"... Correction, SACRIFICE. After learning this I finally realize the infinite difference between those get-togethers with sermons and what happens at Mass.
At 71, Ive recently been interested in and have attended Catholic mass, I was overcome with the reverence and all the symbolism. It really is beautiful. And also I need church more than once a week.
I am Eastern Orthodox, ex-Anglican, in the UK.
I just thought it worth pointing out a couple of things - and they are very similar in the Eastern Catholic to the Eastern Orthodox.
Firstly the comment about the children running about and the reference to reverence. The services are at the same time very formal, but also informal. One is not strapped to ones pew! The Liturgy is totally as per the order of service in the book - nothing added, and nothing taken away, so the form is strictly adhered to. At the same time, if you want to go walk about the church, you are free to do so, particularly children. Remember that this is the Father's house, and children would behave as though they were in the house of their grandfather perhaps. They would be respectful, but free to be children. They will always be taught to reverence the icons like you would treat a grandparent when visiting, but after that, they go play. There is no Sunday School where the children are sent out of harm's way - they learn the liturgy of the church by participating in it. Sunday School takes place after the service is finished.
I like to point out that EVERYTHING in the Divine Liturgy has meaning and the meaning is usually known and passed on. My mother was quite curious when she came to see me received into the Orthodox Church, and was baffled by all the ins and outs through the doors like some sort of cuckoo clock! Consider in a protestant church where there is a communion service. There will often be a procession of the bread and wine to the altar. Why? Nobody knows! Before the Divine Liturgy a completely separate service is performed by the Priest called the Proskomedia. In this service, the bread and wine are prepared very elaborately. Those living and those dead are commemorated by specific prayers and by extracting little tiny pieces of the bread. It's a wonderful little service that can be seen in a number of RUclips videos: ruclips.net/video/0kTquEy9uVs/видео.html . The bread and wine aren't just taken out of the cupboard and placed on a table ready to take to the alter for communion. There's more to it than that! All of this preceding service used to take place in a building detached from the main church, and so at the appropriate time, the bread and wine were fetched from next door and brought into the church for consecration in procession. Nowadays, the Proskomedia takes place behind the iconostasis, so the procession has become more symbolic, but is retained nonetheless.
Likewise, there is another procession before the Epistle and Gospel called the "Little Entrance" (the procession referred to above being the "Great Entrance").
Back in times past, the service would have started outside the church, often with a procession through the community and people would be 'collected' from their dwellings and join the throng, headed by the Deacon carrying the Gospel book. Chants and psalms would be chanted en route through the narrow streets. When they arrived at church, the service had reached the point where the Epistle and Gospel were read, and the Little Entrance goes back to when the Gospel arrived in church in procession.
Finding out what even small movements and gestures represent in Orthodox and I suppose Eastern Catholic churches mean, is a fascinating process and really helps to bring alive the liturgy when it is understood actually and historically.
I'm new to your channel, but hope you'll find yourself in an Eastern Orthodox church at some point. There are both Russian and Greek parishes in the US where the liturgy is in English, but if you find an Antiochian Orthodox Church, this is almost guaranteed.
Enjoy
This was fascinating to me. Quite different from even traditional Roman Catholic Church in Latin. My local parish is in English but as a child it was in Latin but looked quite different. I am always interested in any Protestant reactions. I grew up Catholic in a mostly Protestant family. Went from Catholic to Lutheran to Pentecostal to prspyterian to Methodist back to Catholic about three years ago. Am thankful to be back home.
I'm excited at Cameron POSSIBLY becoming Catholic!
Cameron will never bow befor catholic graven images.
He doesn't bow before graven images, but he is now happily Catholic. Alleluia! God bless him 🙏🏼✝️🕊️❤️
I’m a Roman Catholic and have never been to an Eastern Mass! This was very interesting! Thanks Matt!
I'm Latin Rite, but I love the Byzantine Liturgy. I've been to several Eastern liturgies, gone to confession to an eastern Priest, and I've gone to one for Anointing with oil for healing, and my mother experienced immediate healing of three ailments. That priest is a married one.
This show is so interesting!! I am Catholic and it is nice to hear this faith discussion because it can help me when I speak to other's and if I'm asked about the faith. My Catholic faith is precious and in these times it is being fortified by good teachers and hearing solid doctrine. These times we need to stand with & for Christ; so I look at everything as combat training/bootcamp in a sense. I believe times are going to get much rougher. But we already know who wins the war! ....I just subscribed!!
I'd love reactions to Babylon Bee articles!
Try bringing him to our Tridentine Masses.
Or you could just accept that the Latin Mass isn’t the only valid way to do things.
David Figueroa no is not ... we Catholics now that but in America we prefer that because was the way that was taught.
Eneida Hernandez What are you trying to say? I don’t understand you
Matt give him catechism of catholic church, Rome sweet home and one rosary :) I think that will be beautiful and I can't wait to start your new channel. That is great idea. You got my vote mate!!!
The Icon of the Virgin Mary with Christ's sandal is slipping off his feet refers to the Book of Genesis 3:15, "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.” the Woman is the Virgin Mary and her Offspring is Christ, and "Strike his heel" refers to Christ's endurance of suffering and death in the flesh, And He crushed the serpent's head on the Cross. When you guys look for Icons and Theology in general Please go to Orthodox Christianity for explanation.
My Novus Ordo priest came in with the thurible with the bells. I kidded him asking what Eastern Rite priest he mugged for it.
Cameron will be Catholic before this time next year. Screenshot this.
Didn’t age too well unfortunately.
@@muz1658 now, I cry
Ahhh, but it did.... God is a Poet and He works in His time. God be praised, Cameron entered the Catholic Church about a year ago. His humility is lovely. 🙏🏼✝️🕊️❤️
100% catholic and 100% Indonesian
Proud to be a catholic in my beautiful country, Indonesia
My wife is Pentecostal and all the charismatic stuff confuses me... is it emotional ecstasy? The Holy Spirit is peace, calmness and self-control and the craziness is only seen in the Bible with possession and Jesus casts the demons out or OT with prophets of Baal... I do not mean to be mean I just ask my wife and she has no answer...
A big thing that turned me off Pentecostalism before becoming Anglo-catholic was that someone pointed out to me one of the fruits of the sprirt is self control it was at that moment I realised that Pentecostalism couldn't be rightm because it's all about letting yourself go and be overwhelmed and letting go of control and that just doesnt fit with the spirit in the bible. When I watch a Brownsville reveial video I do not see self control and it often scares me in all honesty.
campbell holt
Exactly, temperance/self-control.
WOW! AMAZING! God bless you both!
Always wanted to go to non-Latin Catholic celebrations.
Love your channel.
Wow, I googled Byzantine Catholic Churches near me and this exact church is the one that popped up. Crazy.
Matt, if you enjoy the Eastern Catholic tradition, why have you not chosen the Eastern Orthodox Church? If the historicity of the Catholic Church appeals to you with the Eastern Orthodox traditions, why not join the church that has far less altered theology and the traditions you love?
Matt.. do you live in Austin, TX. now?
The Real Presence. THE REAL PRESENCE. The source and summit of the Church. Do not doubt, do not even entertain doubt.
Matt and Cameron are the perfect example of a Christian and catholic being able to disagree but still be really good friends. Let’s keep it going, love all my catholic friends!
I would love for y’all to react to Dr. Scott Hahn... he was really mind blowing to me.
Rome sweet home. Haven't read yet. But still in bucketlist. I had watch steve ray and some Catholic scholar converts from other church.
Greetings from Indonesia.
@@isiwaktu2525 I have read the book,my friend gave it to me and that book didn't tire me at all.Its a treasure, try..
That Bob Ross shirt tho....... 👌
Cameron, I converted over ten years ago and my wife did not. We have four kids and they’re being raised Catholic and my wife comes to Holy Mass with us. It’s been a difficult situation not having my wife in the same faith but by Gods help we are making it. Any insight you need I could provide.
At about 16 minutes and some, Matt wondered if any Protestant churches have a liturgy.
My church has a liturgical way of having church, there is always the Lord's Prayer, a Prayer of Confession which is not the exact same words every week, but it is still a confession, silence then the Assurance of Pardon. We also have Prayers of the People, Old and New Testament readings, lots of hymns, and the Doxology and a sung Amen at the end.
I love it, and it is home.
Catholics be like "OMGEEE HE SO CLOSE!!!!!"
Wouldn't it be more reflective (by that I mean more typical) if he went to a Latin Rite Mass, since the majority of Catholics are of the Latin Rite?
I have nothing against the Byzantine Rite, in fact I would love to attend divine liturgy. It's just that while the Eastern churches are numerous in number, the most common rite, and the one most commonly associated with Catholicism, is the Latin rite, and therefore more reflective of how most Catholics worship.
I agree. I hope Matt (or anyone for that matter) takes him to a TLM
As a Catholic who never attended an Eastern Rite Church, I was really impressed with the beauty of the church and how you explained the icon of Mary. I had never heard of that pious story! We do have a small Maronite Church in our diocese I’d love to visit but haven’t yet. What I don’t understand is if you are changing Rites, why do you need to notify your bishop? Could you tell me where your church is located? I love the idea of you both doing a You Tube Channel, maybe just discussing anything that comes to mind, like the old TnT videos with TYlor Marshall and Tim Gordon.
The question of changing from Maronite church to Catholic came up in my parish. Our priest said permission must be received ( l think from Marion Church) in order for a person to enter the Roman Catholic Church.
I will pray for you Cameron on your journey. I am a convert of 30 years now. Jesus is truly present in the Holy Eucharist. Confession is incredibly healing and it is Biblical! Mary, is my spiritual Mother, and the saints are examples of lives well lived for Christ. Get ready for the joy that awaits you as you discover the greatest treasure on Earth. Namely God and His People in the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH! My experience coming into the Church on Pentecost was incredible beyond words. Receiving Jesus Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity is receiving the embrace of Jesus in person. When I was on my "search" and went to the Catholic Churches something was tangibly different. I felt interiorly close to Jesus outside of the homily or music. It was close contact with the Lord in prayer. When I went to other churches the preaching could have been more engaging, the music better, and the people even more friendly. One church I went to baked pies and visited new members. I am so glad I chose the personal closeness of the Lord Himself. Once I received the Lord in the Eucharist the homilies became better and the music more uplifting. In the Catholic Faith it is truly about what is going on with my prayer life and journey. That makes the worship together very powerful, unifying, and simple in a beautiful way. I love how Jesus in the Catholic Faith meets us where we are. There are no limits and we are all in it together whether we chose just showing up, or embracing the life of saint full out.
He still hasn't experienced the mass tho' /:)
Cameron, in Protestantism every pastor is his own authority, isn’t he?
I guess so. I am from Indonesian. Here there are allot of apologetic channel. In one moment, i ask if theres no "magisterium" Can I build my own church, for I myself think what i am thinking is true?
Isi Waktu a lot of people do do that, that’s how you end up with the Joel Osteen style churches where they preach prosperity and basically “follow God and you’ll get rich”... also how many cults start. Many Protestants (at least biblical Protestant churches) are incredibly devoted to getting the Bible right and making sure that the they’re preaching the word of God and not the word of man. Admittedly it can be a problem in the Protestant community because finding a church that is biblically accurate and doesn’t create false Gods to worship can be difficult, but there are people who teach and pastor directly from the Bible in context. In churches such as those, the authority of what the pastor preaches comes from the authority of the Bible (since they teach the Bible)
Regarding the colours, I think its due to the style of the Russian cathedrals in the 16th century. They hired Italians to do St Basils cathedral and it was different from other Russian churches because of the colours on the spires. Perhaps that same architectural tradition can be applied to your church Matt?
A channel started by you 2 together would be so fantastic. Entertaining and learning!!