Let's not overlook their names as well, Baylan SKOLL and Shin HATI. In Norse mythology Skoll and Hati are the wolves that chase the sun and moon across the sky. When they catch and consume their prey the sky darkens and Ragnarok begins. There is no way it is mere coincidence that they chose those two particular names to be partners in a story like this without it meaning something greater. Baylan catches his "prey" and a great evil is awakened.
Or it’s just Filoni continuing his history of including wolf references into Star Wars that he’s been doing for years. Sometimes people read too deep into this stuff. He literally named his own character Trapper Wolf. It’s just his thing.
yes but the lothwolves were pivotal in bringing Ezra to the world between worlds and saving Ahsoka. So although they were 'just there', they also served a massive purpose. Without those wolves, Ahsoka wouldn't be here now. @@Fever_Ghoul
@@Fever_Ghoul You could be right, but that ending really teased things. Super sucky that Ray died, I really wanted to see what he would do with the character in follow up seasons.
"The craziest and most high fantasy thing in Star Wars ever" you really settle for crumbs; we already have her and many more stuff but yall really don't give a fuck about the legacy of SW.
He specified “putting her into canon”. She’s not canon anymore, chief. It’s not settling for crumbs, it’s just accepting that Legends is no longer canon and has no bearing on what happens in Star Wars anymore. Someone being happy that something may be brought back into canon and have a bearing on future storytelling or the possibility of seeing a character in live action for the first time isn’t a bad thing. But being a pretentious, gate keeping jackass that can’t get over whatever is making you bitter is a problem to everyone else that just enjoys what Star Wars was and is. Either stop watching, move on and get on with your life or stop pretending the EU was some perfect monument of storytelling and wasn’t filled with tons of garbage storylines and characters or that Star Wars was ever without its flaws and acting like any of the new Star Wars is any worse. The Legacy of Star Wars is just fine. The Mandalorian, Andor and Ahsoka are being very well received, Kenobi wasn’t as bad as all you people claim it was, CW season 7 was great, Bad Batch has been great, Book of Boba Fett was the lowest point for the shows, and in 15-20 years all the kids who grew up with the sequels are going to out number all of you bitter crybabies screaming in your echo chamber just like what happened with the prequels. Star Wars is going to keep doing what it’s always done, bring joy and wonder to generations of kids and inspire them to make the next generation of art and story telling. The only one missing out on anything is you and the only stain on Star Wars’ legacy is going to be the fans like you that make everything toxic and have made it so when people think about Star Wars they think about how bad the fan base is as much as they do about how much they enjoy the movies and shows. No one spends as much time on something they hate more then Star Wars fans like you.
Man I hope they bring back Luke for this. The fate of the Jedi audio books was so good. It has to have Luke because he is the most powerful Jedi to ever live. George confirmed that.
I reckon it makes sense - to bring in a big bad even worse than the Sith. The streaming show should be able to set up the fact that she exists, and Thrawn and the Nightsisters want to get the hell outta dodge, but the quest/encounters in getting away split the band. Baylan falls to Abeloth, Shin seems to escape. Everyone breathes a sigh of relief, camera pans to Shin, eyes turning black as the void...
Me neither, Disney wont even freaking show us lightsabers chopping off limbs no way theyll have a character get possessed by literally evil itself@@lg_1226
Aniken saved Ashoka for a reason. If she carries an element of the Mortis Sister. Baylan can be made to carry an element of the Son. Aniken carries that of the father... All three are needed to contain and undo, what was done. The Force is setting this up to heal.
@@donovanmartin7946 im actually really excited because this series is doing extremely good. if it does good throughout he'll be allowed to create more and more stories to tell us within disney
Most plausible theory so far, Abeloth started to make it's way in my thoughts since Ep.5, last episode just consolidated those thoughts. Happy to see a larger and credible channel explore this venue!
I hope it’s Abeloth calling Baylan. I hope she created the Yuzhan Vong in that galaxy and they are the ones threatening Thrawn. He’s definitely worried about something.
I’m not too worried about that. Thrawn is mortal and powerless, not every threat can be outsmarted. The fact that the Sisters are scared… THAT concerns me lol.
@@johnrobertson6709i meaaaan look at andor, notice the things in that show that you can imagine disney not green lighting, the vong wouldn’t be as brutal depending on how they’re depicted, aslong as it doesn’t take away from the characters
@@johnrobertson6709 you say that... I say Rakatan Infinite Empire. As canon-ized in Andor. And that's a show that was deliberately avoiding fan-service.
I’m so glad I finally found this channel again. I used to watch your videos with my father before his passing. Just watching these videos makes me feel closer
I really hope so. Especially a tease at the end confirming it would be great. Fighting with thrawn in the next season of ahsoka or mando, then filoni's movie they will all come together avengers style, and Luke comes in at his prime to help with the fight. It's what star wars needs
@@desugar1171 and the kids. I believe that something that can attract kids and adults alike is important, to get them invested too. crazy scary bad guys can make kids interested, at least it always did for me, because it makes you wonder how can the good guys can even stop it.
Abeloth would make for a next level threat the likes of which we haven't seen before so she should definitely be saved for a series of movies, if this is indeed the way the saga is headed. Whatever dark power awaits, I do feel like it should be a setup to something far greater down the line, for now Thrawn and his Nightsisters should be enough of a threat for the culmination of the Mandoverse.
I agree! The series could be made to be the start of an overarching Abeloth-centric storyline that gets fleshed out over the next number of years that culminates in a cinematic trilogy where she finally officially appears in - like how MCU built-up towards Thanos throughout the 2010s! But they should drop hints and Easter Eggs here and there in the films and series' that come out prior to that inevitable Abeloth cinematic trilogy! 👍 And when they finally unveil Abeloth, she should be portrayed by Eva Green! She just seems so damn perfect for the role! I think she will own it the way RDJ owned Tony Stark in the MCU, and easily make the character instantly iconic! 😊
The Night sisters worship Abeloth. That's who all the statues on Dathomir were supposed to be, and whom Mother Talzins voice was supposed to be after the birth of a daughter, Kycina Mother to Maul Ventress Savage and Feral... also Abeloth savaged a huge part of the Galaxy and whole systems vanished of I remember
People have noticed Zeffo writing on the great mothers temple. It translates to Kujat’s reign, Fallen Order fans will remember we were at Kujat’s tomb on Dathomir. The Zeffo supposedly disappeared into the unknown regions. Also thanks to the Andor show, we know that the Rakata did in fact exist. It’s possible that this power that Baylan is sensing might also be on of those 2 species, the Zeffo were strong in the force and so were the Rakata.
@@99Ronnie-Darko they definitely were. Some of there technology is still more advanced than modern Star Wars tech. Especially their greatest achievement the Star Forge.
Another thing that struck me was the mention that the Dathomiri "once had a great kingdom" on Peridea, but clearly something has almost wiped them out. Looking at the ruins we see in the episode, it's clearly been over a long period of time, which would also line up with Abeloth being imprisoned there for centuries. Perhaps the she was weak when first sent there, weak enough that the Great Mothers were able to hold her back but as she slowly regained strength, she was able to start wreaking havoc.
I really hope they don’t bust out abeloth yet. She’s waaaaaay too powerful for anyone in the current canon. It’s the same with the Vong. They were written as the perfect enemies for the Jedi order because they were invisible to the Force. So many Jedi died. And it was shocking because that hadn’t happened in any of the preceding books. They were written to pose a huge challenge to a Master Luke Skywalker who had reached impossible levels of power. And after beating the Vong the only challenge that made sense for the final enemy of Luke was a Force God. Using the Vong or abeloth at this point would be absolutely stupid. There is no one who could handle them at this point.
@@CC-2224. the current time period of Ashoka is 9-11 years ABY. In legends, Grandmaster Luke Skywalker defeats Abeloth in 44 ABY. This was the height of his power. He would not have the experience or knowledge necessary to defeat her until then.
@@Egregore-33 but it's Disney star wars so they can make Luke defeat her as you said that's in LEGENDS not in CANON so Luke can be the power level Disney wants in CANON and make him defeat her earlier than that again in CANON
Correct.......if they are doing abaloth they may as well bring nakhash ( the father of shadows and sorce of ALL evil and the dark side ) into it as well ffs. But cosmic level being's are a way's off one would think, why bring them in when you have soooo much content to draw on that can build up to being's like abaloth. Personally i hope its vitiate, reborn into a new galaxy calling out wanting to go home...........hes definatly powerful enough to do that.........and wouodnt care if its jedi or sith that hears him, plus he was more a force entity then a man, drawing on both light and dark like he said " there is no light or dark side, there is only the force.........and I AM IT'S MASTER!!".
@@adamnunan6105 the hell you're talking about vitiate was a sith Lord not even a sith Lord but he was the emperor of the sith empire he possessed valkorion and used him as it's host
I could see it that maybe if Luke is involved during the fight, perhaps a force wound on him might had weaken him during the actual sequels explaining his actions in some way he was in a state where maybe he was battling a dark force corruption from Abeloth's fight and it made it easier for Palpatine to get into his head with the visions. Could be I think. Maybe Abeloth once defeated puts a pieace of herself on his mortal body so him leaving his mortal body behind allowed him to return in his old more confident and positive self like in the end of the movie. Just thinking.
I'm not certain if they will call it Abeloth or use her Mortis backstory, but it does feel like something of her sort is luring in Baylan - an immensely powerful Force entity of some sort. Perhaps it'll be like a dark Bendu, or maybe something even less anthropomorphized.
I mean Shin would be the likely vessel wouldn’t she? But would Baylan really sacrifice her like that? Shin seems like his daughter sometimes and that’d be messed up. Then again he does seem like he’s keeping something from her and why she’s clearly having doubts. Idk this still seems too good to be true for Disney
The sister in owl form kept watch over Ashoka and I believe that Ashoka is going to gain the power of the sister and that the brother may inhabit another to take on this threat.
@@donovanmartin7946I believe they are, they are manifestations in the force, even if they somewhat "disappear" they could probably just appear again lol
@@donovanmartin7946maybe in the end. I can't imagine Filoni doesn't do this. Remember we always do this little guy at insane moments. At the end of clone wars with fresh Vader picking up Ahsokas lightsaber thinking she died, Ahsoka narrowly escaping Vader by some in between world before fighting Sidious, at the end of Rebels and probably at the end of the show once more
Thank you, as you are the first content creator to talk about this that I have seen. So many of the "nerd" star wars channels don't seem to know much of the now legends content. We know they are leaning heavily on legends even if they butcher the content.
If I recall in the EU books, Abeloth was only released her prison when the flow of time in the Force was altered. Perhaps that "event" for the canon Star Wars was Ezra saving Ashoka from Vader in World Between Worlds. It clearly looked like Vader's last attack was going to kill her before Ezra pulled her through. From there, we see Ahsoka's influence surviving that encounter -- everything up until now.
Im surprised that nobody has connected that the father, son and daughter are referred to as "the ones" and anakin the chosen "one". In one scene in ahsoka a bat like creature is seen possibly being the son, maybe it is the son calling out for help because maybe the son is acting alone trying to prevent abeloth from escaping, or perhaps wanting her to escape. And ahsoka being the daughter would also make sense that the force draws her to this other galaxy. I like the theory that it is abeloth or the son calling, but personally id be ok with it being something completely new and fresh to star wars
You’re right, but bringing Thrawn in from legends opens up what I think of as the best parts of the legends book to canon. The yuuzhan bong are all the chiss and Palpatine and Thrawn in particular are all about, tying an extra galactic threat with Abeloth and the mortis story line I think would fix the universe. The closer canon moves to legends the happier I’ll be.
The Son is dead tho so he can't be calling out anything , the only One that is still alive is Anakin who is literally the Father now , so if Abeloth do exist in canon it is her awakening , but if they go with Abeloth story then Luke is a must have to headline the story and I don't think they will make Luke be the main character since it is Disney
@@davidkosiba624 Could it be the son, but it's really Anakin or Abeloth impersonating him? Is it already established canon what happens when a mortis God dies? Could they be trapped somewhere else? Does how they die affect that differently? Like how the daughter is now connected to Ahsoka per her death but didn't the son die not doing that? I know Luke is busy elsewhere with building bots, but id guess he could still multitask a little, how plausible and surprising might it be that it's Luke calling him there for whatever the reason? If Anakin is the father which seems already established and the father being the more power of the ones could he somehow resurrect/free the son hence seeing the bat and Bayan telling Ahsoka that she cannot beat him. So much resurrections on that planet, I wonder if Ahsoka's way home is in resurrecting Purgils somehow who's bones orbit the planet?
I think Thrawn is unaware of Abeloth or whatever entity inhabits the planet, the Night Sisters have been hiding that information and are using Thrawn to escape
Pretty interesting theory. It would be pretty interesting to see them bring this stuff into the live action shows. If they do, I feel like they'll wait to season 2. I'm anticipating that season 1 will end with Thrawn, Elsbeth, and the Sisters escaping to the home galaxy while Ahshoka, Huyang, Sabine, and Ezra get stranded (at least temporarily) with Shin on Peridea. Balen will theoretically be killed off before S2 of course, since the actor died. But yeah, anyhow... it'd be cool. Although I think it would actually be better for them to cover Abeloth as a villain in TV shows rather than movies. They can dedicate way more time to her with a few seasons of a TV show than with a trilogy of movies. But yeah, cool theory. Oh, and not trying to nitpick, but when you described Abeloth as having "indiscriminate height", it sounded kinda weird... "undescribed" would work well instead, meaning that they simply never described how tall she was. "Indiscriminate", on the other hand, means "at random or without careful judgment"... which just doesn't make sense when talking about someone's height. Anyway, great video, I enjoy all these theories and lore.
I’m glad they’re making the force a more mystical being. When it just felt like superpowers I could never understand why there was 2 massive religious like factions constantly at war over it
I’ve always wanted to see Abeloth in Star Wars especially in live action. I too was thinking this as the story in Ashoka continues. I’m trying not to get my hopes up because it’s such a niche part of the lore. The thought is very exciting though.
This is why I love stars wars legends the old comics the games going all the way back, there’s so many characters with so many stories tell and forces of evil that has yet to be seen on the screen
Wow, what a theory! Yes, they would need a certain pair of Force-sensitive twins to help their father in fighting Abeloth in an upcoming movie!!!! And there is an opportunity to introduce Mara Jade into that new set of stories, and it is HER death at the Jedi Academy that sends Luke into his personal exile?!?!
As far as anakin combating abeloth goes, this show technically takes place between episodes 6 and 7, so if the sequels still take place in exactly the same way, then Anakin was unable to combat Sidious when he returned so my thought process would be that by extension he would be unable to fight abeloth either. But then again since she is such a unique force entity Anakin may have a trick up his sleeve that works only on abeloth or something of that nature. But if he truly cannot do anything other than provide guidance on how to stop abeloth I fear she may be too powerful to exist in current cannon as is one of the reasons at least in my opinion that they haven’t brought back Starkiller; he’s known for being incredibly op but that kind of OP is too much for current cannon universe. Either way it’s definitely an interesting theory and I’m excited to see how this all plays out
What the hell are you talking about? Anakin was able to tame the son & daughter far before he even gained control over the light & dark side. Current Anakin is the most powerful.
Man I hope it's my man Palps. He's floating around out there during this time. "Somehow The Emperor has returned again to here too. Somehow" I love it!
I keep saying it's Abeloth or the canon version! It's the only thing that makes sense. Besides, Thrawn wants out quickly. Abeloth is coming, and I think she's being set up for a future villain.
@@aceneto9386I believe she'll appear as the main villain in Rey's future movie. Possibly even finally confirming Anakin as the Father. Ahsoka - Daughter Luke - Son Anakin - Father That could end the Mortis story perfectly.
Abeloth is too powerful too dark gritty and scary for Disney lighthearted family friendly watered down censored pg star wars, also Dave filoni doesn't know how to write true evil without making them childish
This is extremely disturbing. If Abeloth is here. Great enormous danger. And Baylan listens to it. Walking to it. I think Anakin can stop her. I'm not sure how Lucasfilm could put Abeloth in the show. Luke could battle her again maybe. We'll see what happens. May the Force be with you too😊
I'm really excited to see how this all plays out, in Episode 7 and 8, as well as beyond that with the New Republic Era Cross Over Film. I also find it cool that the New Republic fear the return of Thrawn, but Thrawn and especially the Night Sisters also fear something greater than themselves, which I find quite bone-chilling. Bring on Episode 7
@@edgardpalotai619Yuuzahn Vong: hold my bio weapons (Abeloth is a big Threat but for the whole Galaxy the Vong were a far far larger threat) I mean seriously 365 Trillion people died to the Vong that’s exponentially more people who died to Abeloth)
I could also see it as the original Sith Eternal Emperor some sort of echo calling out to Baylon and this may be a good tie in for bringing in High republic episodes as they could explore Revan and Malak ect.. Maybe even one day having a stand alone show that follows Darth Bane ... way hopeful there.
Bro you should also cover hera's son How he was able to sense the duel between ashoka and anakin in world between world .. i think his grasp on force is way more deep than many force users..
@@andrewsmisek8341 I'm not saying it is surprising.. I'm just saying that he is quite sensitive in force and since Luke is trying to build the order and there are aren't many force sensitive out there, so there is a high chance of this character getting traned by luke himself and to play an very crucial role in upcoming future .. but let's see what will happen...
I personally believe She is just 1 of 2 Threats Abeloth is the presence Baylen senses, however I personally see a threat as bit perhaps even worse. We are in another Galaxy and we all know who else came from another Galaxy the Yuuzahn Vong.
They cannot be sensed in the force. so small hole. I don't think there are enough Jedi yet for the vong. I thought they might introduce the vong when rey rebuilds the order to a cupla hundred.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 just let it happen at this point atleast Dave’s trying we ain’t gonna be getting any great Star Wars these days not since before Disney purchased it. It’s all either just some semi decent stuff and the rest utter dog shit. (Apart from TCW S7 and Mando S2 cuz they were fire especially the siege of Mandalor) Tho I am glad we are finally moving away from Mandalor stuff for a bit. We just gotta hope Dave does his best.
I really want Abeloth to happen but the way star wars is set up now I just think there trying to tie loose corner on how palpatine returns. So I think it's palpatine sending whispers through the force like he did with Ezra and yoda
it's entirely possible time moves differently in the new distant galaxy, or in the world between worlds. if they ever return to the known galaxy, hundreds or thousands of years could have gone by
A reason I think its her is the Bendu's final words to Thrawn. Bendu said "I see your defeat, like many arms surrounding you in a cold embrace" The end of Rebels seems to show that was the whales, but they would be more a neutral party. What if, that many arms of cold embrace to come, would be Abeloth.
yes if abeloth is even remotely in the books there needs to be more big bads than just thrawn. one story at a time though i suppose@@wolfsbanealphas617
The force manifesting differently in every galaxy is honestly such a fascinating concept I wish it was more explored, like hell what the hell even is the force? A beyond comprehension life form?
I seriously hope they introduce Abeloth, but hope they don’t degrade her power too much. Knowing the live action audience is mostly different from the rest of us who k ew about her already. I just want her to bring the feeling of inevitability as Palpatine did originally
Theory: Baylan's lightsaber hilt houses an ancient evil spirit. That's why it was not in the temple's hilt archives. That's why they inserted that piece of dialogue, giving mystery, but then also the foreshadowing of Baylan Skoll destroying 'the map' which was early on viewed as 'the key' with his lightsaber -- the lightsaber being Baylan's key to his goals. A hint by destroying one key with another. **However, if not an evil spirit it could also have a holocron with instructions in it. Perhaps a hilt that was top secret and hidden in a vault until the destruction of the Jedi Temple(s).
Baylan wouldn’t be knowingly seeking out Abeloth. If he’s anything he’s cautious and I would say a chaotic good character. There’s definitely SOMETHING supernatural about Peridea, but Abeloth is probably too deep of a cut unless they’re planning on doing a few more seasons of Ahsoka.
i agree. possibly some kind of scaled down version of her (legends force powers are insanely overpowered compaired to canon) or a new threat making indirect references as estereggs.
I've also heard that it could be The Son. When Shin looks out at the planet you can see a bat-like creature that flies way that could be the son and his bat form.
I doubt Abeloth would appear in Canon. She's way too disturbing for Disney as Disney isn't known for Eldritch Horror elements. If anything they might add a character similar to Abeloth just like how Shin Hati is similar to Lana Beniko.
I've been praying for a Death Troopers live action movie for years but I know its a pipe dream; just like the rest of my EU fan dreams. Disney wouldn't touch Death Troopers or the lore behind Old Republic dark side forces with a 100ft pole.
The problem with everything happening right now with Ashoka, Thrawn, and even Abeloth is that everything that is currently happening is so insignificant that none of it was even hinted at in the sequel trilogy. Of course, none of this was even considered at the time when those films were made, but they’re still canon, and unless Disney plans on retconning them out of existence, nothing that happens in the current stories matters one little bit. Thanks KK!
same can be said about the Prequels not acknowledging events in Clone Wars show, or OT trilogy not acknowledging anything in the Rebels show. In fact, you can skip literally every single star wars tv show to date and the films make sense without them.
I hope it’s Abeloth because it would end up creating a war on two fronts, the Imperial Remnants lead by Thrawn and Abeloth who’s out for revenge against the Jedi and pure chaos, which will be awesome to witness in Star Wars live action but I have an theory, what if she’s trapped in the world between worlds and the only way to get in to free her is through a gateway on Peridia because the Mortis gods made it so no one could free, and why the purgill go there to die, but also that’s could be why Anakin is there, the one is the guardian on Abeloth’s Prison and Baylan frees her but has to fight Anakin who’s trying to stop him and Shin Awesome Video 😁
Could be an undertone to Ezra's comments about how he can't wait to go home. Perhaps she's been haunting his dreams, and he's starting to lose the game...
I'm loving how much this show is exploring, everyone's been joking about every other scence being on Tatooine and now they're like, cool here's a witch waste land home world, with an asteroid belt that's actually a space whale graveyard
We are just speculating but if Abeloth angle turns out to be true that would be sick. Anakin is not yet understood. If he takes the place of the father that would be sick too but him being some kind of guardian in the WbW would be awesome too. I’m stoked for the next two episodes
We need a Star Wars horror feature about abeloth.The idea of something or someone purely evil with basically all the power in the galaxy with almost little to no real challengers. It’s scary af.
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Let's not overlook their names as well, Baylan SKOLL and Shin HATI. In Norse mythology Skoll and Hati are the wolves that chase the sun and moon across the sky. When they catch and consume their prey the sky darkens and Ragnarok begins. There is no way it is mere coincidence that they chose those two particular names to be partners in a story like this without it meaning something greater. Baylan catches his "prey" and a great evil is awakened.
Or it’s just Filoni continuing his history of including wolf references into Star Wars that he’s been doing for years. Sometimes people read too deep into this stuff. He literally named his own character Trapper Wolf. It’s just his thing.
yes but the lothwolves were pivotal in bringing Ezra to the world between worlds and saving Ahsoka. So although they were 'just there', they also served a massive purpose. Without those wolves, Ahsoka wouldn't be here now. @@Fever_Ghoul
YOOOOOO
Damn you're so right, I hadn't even caught that...
@@Fever_Ghoul You could be right, but that ending really teased things. Super sucky that Ray died, I really wanted to see what he would do with the character in follow up seasons.
If Shin gets possessed by Abeloth i’m gonna love this show even more.
You're on to something
I thought the same thing!! 🤯
Shin’s hair is the same color I don’t know if that is jus coincidence or something more
@@begcoinsholy crap.
She straight up looks like abeloth…..
Baylan realising his mistake and teaming up with luke or ashoka to fight her.
I really hope Abeloth is the one calling out to Baylan. I really want to see her in live action
I was gonna write this exact comment XD Noice.
You want Dave filoni to turn her into a lighthearted family friendly watered down censored pg Saturday morning cartoon villain??
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021What?! Huh?! Your comment makes no sense.
@@jowoman7799 Dave filoni will ruin her he doesn't know how to write evil
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021he literally wrote Palpatine before and made him pure evil.
Baylan tells Shin he's “trained her to be much more than a Jedi”. What if he’s prepared Shin to be a vessel for Abeloth???
You beat me just so slightly on posting that idea. Do you realize that Abeloth is mostly depicted as a blonde female? Hmmmmmm....^^
Literally what I was thinking.
Hell, she kinda even looks like her.
We will know soon... but she definitely has the crazy eyes for abeloth lol
I was thinking the same thing
If Dave Filoni actually put Abeloth into Canon that would be the craziest and most high fantasy thing in Star Wars ever, which would be awesome!
"The craziest and most high fantasy thing in Star Wars ever" you really settle for crumbs; we already have her and many more stuff but yall really don't give a fuck about the legacy of SW.
Clap seal, clap
@@akatoshmorgul9367live action
He specified “putting her into canon”. She’s not canon anymore, chief. It’s not settling for crumbs, it’s just accepting that Legends is no longer canon and has no bearing on what happens in Star Wars anymore. Someone being happy that something may be brought back into canon and have a bearing on future storytelling or the possibility of seeing a character in live action for the first time isn’t a bad thing. But being a pretentious, gate keeping jackass that can’t get over whatever is making you bitter is a problem to everyone else that just enjoys what Star Wars was and is. Either stop watching, move on and get on with your life or stop pretending the EU was some perfect monument of storytelling and wasn’t filled with tons of garbage storylines and characters or that Star Wars was ever without its flaws and acting like any of the new Star Wars is any worse. The Legacy of Star Wars is just fine. The Mandalorian, Andor and Ahsoka are being very well received, Kenobi wasn’t as bad as all you people claim it was, CW season 7 was great, Bad Batch has been great, Book of Boba Fett was the lowest point for the shows, and in 15-20 years all the kids who grew up with the sequels are going to out number all of you bitter crybabies screaming in your echo chamber just like what happened with the prequels. Star Wars is going to keep doing what it’s always done, bring joy and wonder to generations of kids and inspire them to make the next generation of art and story telling. The only one missing out on anything is you and the only stain on Star Wars’ legacy is going to be the fans like you that make everything toxic and have made it so when people think about Star Wars they think about how bad the fan base is as much as they do about how much they enjoy the movies and shows. No one spends as much time on something they hate more then Star Wars fans like you.
Awesome? That's not how you spell lame.
Abeloth was one of the worst stories in legends.
Man I hope they bring back Luke for this. The fate of the Jedi audio books was so good. It has to have Luke because he is the most powerful Jedi to ever live. George confirmed that.
I would bet we get 3 seasons or so of Ahsoka, and then get the movie that will have Luke in it.
That's... Not going to happen. No way you're getting a white and/or male protagonist that will end up being the strongest in 2023.
@@Maxrepfitgm I know, and that makes me sad. Luke was my childhood hero. I brought all the legends stuff that had him in it.
@@joshrandor4371 to see him in all his glory would be epic. Not drinking green tit milk, please smh
@curtblackwaterbassvick8112 I'm black so I get it, buuut I think the pendulum is swinging too far in the other direction.
Definitely excited if it's indeed Abeloth. Definitely want to see more horror in Star Wars.
Well apparently Skeleton Crew is set to be a horror like show, could be related
@@Louiscypher93 Star Weirds.
I reckon it makes sense - to bring in a big bad even worse than the Sith. The streaming show should be able to set up the fact that she exists, and Thrawn and the Nightsisters want to get the hell outta dodge, but the quest/encounters in getting away split the band. Baylan falls to Abeloth, Shin seems to escape. Everyone breathes a sigh of relief, camera pans to Shin, eyes turning black as the void...
I legit imagined this as a possibility
If only they had the balls to do something like this, I don’t think they have it in em
@@lg_1226Fr. Disney isn't gonna even attempt this. What are they gonna market to sell to kids? Creepy Abeloth dolls?
Me neither, Disney wont even freaking show us lightsabers chopping off limbs no way theyll have a character get possessed by literally evil itself@@lg_1226
Aniken saved Ashoka for a reason. If she carries an element of the Mortis Sister. Baylan can be made to carry an element of the Son. Aniken carries that of the father... All three are needed to contain and undo, what was done. The Force is setting this up to heal.
the balence of the force....dave might be setting up one of the greatest star wars stories ever told
@@donovanmartin7946 im actually really excited because this series is doing extremely good. if it does good throughout he'll be allowed to create more and more stories to tell us within disney
at this point ALL future star wars projects need to be headed by dave filoni
Who the fuck is Aniken? Who are these madeup "Mortis" people of whom you're speaking?
I still need them to redeem my boy Snoke. He was a great character
Most plausible theory so far, Abeloth started to make it's way in my thoughts since Ep.5, last episode just consolidated those thoughts. Happy to see a larger and credible channel explore this venue!
I hope it’s Abeloth calling Baylan. I hope she created the Yuzhan Vong in that galaxy and they are the ones threatening Thrawn. He’s definitely worried about something.
I’m not too worried about that. Thrawn is mortal and powerless, not every threat can be outsmarted.
The fact that the Sisters are scared… THAT concerns me lol.
while it’s CONCEIVABLE that filoni brings in abeloth, I think the vong are just too brutal for disney to greenlight
@@johnrobertson6709Agreed. I dont think we'll ever get to see the vong. That story would be far too long.
@@johnrobertson6709i meaaaan look at andor, notice the things in that show that you can imagine disney not green lighting, the vong wouldn’t be as brutal depending on how they’re depicted, aslong as it doesn’t take away from the characters
@@johnrobertson6709 you say that... I say Rakatan Infinite Empire. As canon-ized in Andor.
And that's a show that was deliberately avoiding fan-service.
I’m so glad I finally found this channel again. I used to watch your videos with my father before his passing. Just watching these videos makes me feel closer
Abeloth makes the most sense love that you made a video on this concept. Could be interesting to see Anakin potentially used to gain victory
Dave filoni is going to ruin abeloth
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 okay bud
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021so much bitching and whining
Others made this theory before him though
@@AdriansCreatures oh totally me and my brother had this thought right after watching the episode. I'm just excited to see a video on it for everyone
Abeloth is a dangerous entity in the Star Wars universe because of her power to bend the Dark side to her will.
I really hope so. Especially a tease at the end confirming it would be great. Fighting with thrawn in the next season of ahsoka or mando, then filoni's movie they will all come together avengers style, and Luke comes in at his prime to help with the fight. It's what star wars needs
This is what star wars needs. New and original while still servicing both current and og fans
Ayoo imagine Mando, captain Rex, Ashoka and others fighting thrawn and his forces
@@desugar1171 and the kids. I believe that something that can attract kids and adults alike is important, to get them invested too. crazy scary bad guys can make kids interested, at least it always did for me, because it makes you wonder how can the good guys can even stop it.
Why aren't you writing for Lucas arts? Let's get this man a job because damnnnnnn that would be fire to see!
So basically Avengers: Star Wars 😂
Abeloth would make for a next level threat the likes of which we haven't seen before so she should definitely be saved for a series of movies, if this is indeed the way the saga is headed. Whatever dark power awaits, I do feel like it should be a setup to something far greater down the line, for now Thrawn and his Nightsisters should be enough of a threat for the culmination of the Mandoverse.
I agree! The series could be made to be the start of an overarching Abeloth-centric storyline that gets fleshed out over the next number of years that culminates in a cinematic trilogy where she finally officially appears in - like how MCU built-up towards Thanos throughout the 2010s! But they should drop hints and Easter Eggs here and there in the films and series' that come out prior to that inevitable Abeloth cinematic trilogy! 👍
And when they finally unveil Abeloth, she should be portrayed by Eva Green! She just seems so damn perfect for the role! I think she will own it the way RDJ owned Tony Stark in the MCU, and easily make the character instantly iconic! 😊
The Night sisters worship Abeloth. That's who all the statues on Dathomir were supposed to be, and whom Mother Talzins voice was supposed to be after the birth of a daughter, Kycina Mother to Maul Ventress Savage and Feral... also Abeloth savaged a huge part of the Galaxy and whole systems vanished of I remember
She turned coruscant into hell
Actually, The Night Sisters worshipped The Son and The Daughter Mortis Gods...
People have noticed Zeffo writing on the great mothers temple. It translates to Kujat’s reign, Fallen Order fans will remember we were at Kujat’s tomb on Dathomir. The Zeffo supposedly disappeared into the unknown regions. Also thanks to the Andor show, we know that the Rakata did in fact exist. It’s possible that this power that Baylan is sensing might also be on of those 2 species, the Zeffo were strong in the force and so were the Rakata.
The Rakatan empire was indeed strong especially when it came to technology
@@99Ronnie-Darko they definitely were. Some of there technology is still more advanced than modern Star Wars tech. Especially their greatest achievement the Star Forge.
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@@FateCS yup
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Another thing that struck me was the mention that the Dathomiri "once had a great kingdom" on Peridea, but clearly something has almost wiped them out. Looking at the ruins we see in the episode, it's clearly been over a long period of time, which would also line up with Abeloth being imprisoned there for centuries. Perhaps the she was weak when first sent there, weak enough that the Great Mothers were able to hold her back but as she slowly regained strength, she was able to start wreaking havoc.
I really hope they don’t bust out abeloth yet. She’s waaaaaay too powerful for anyone in the current canon.
It’s the same with the Vong. They were written as the perfect enemies for the Jedi order because they were invisible to the Force.
So many Jedi died. And it was shocking because that hadn’t happened in any of the preceding books.
They were written to pose a huge challenge to a Master Luke Skywalker who had reached impossible levels of power.
And after beating the Vong the only challenge that made sense for the final enemy of Luke was a Force God.
Using the Vong or abeloth at this point would be absolutely stupid.
There is no one who could handle them at this point.
Luke is able to defeat abaloth
@@CC-2224. the current time period of Ashoka is 9-11 years ABY.
In legends, Grandmaster Luke Skywalker defeats Abeloth in 44 ABY.
This was the height of his power. He would not have the experience or knowledge necessary to defeat her until then.
@@Egregore-33 but it's Disney star wars so they can make Luke defeat her as you said that's in LEGENDS not in CANON so Luke can be the power level Disney wants in CANON and make him defeat her earlier than that again in CANON
Correct.......if they are doing abaloth they may as well bring nakhash ( the father of shadows and sorce of ALL evil and the dark side ) into it as well ffs.
But cosmic level being's are a way's off one would think, why bring them in when you have soooo much content to draw on that can build up to being's like abaloth.
Personally i hope its vitiate, reborn into a new galaxy calling out wanting to go home...........hes definatly powerful enough to do that.........and wouodnt care if its jedi or sith that hears him, plus he was more a force entity then a man, drawing on both light and dark like he said " there is no light or dark side, there is only the force.........and I AM IT'S MASTER!!".
@@adamnunan6105 the hell you're talking about vitiate was a sith Lord not even a sith Lord but he was the emperor of the sith empire he possessed valkorion and used him as it's host
I could see it that maybe if Luke is involved during the fight, perhaps a force wound on him might had weaken him during the actual sequels explaining his actions in some way he was in a state where maybe he was battling a dark force corruption from Abeloth's fight and it made it easier for Palpatine to get into his head with the visions.
Could be I think. Maybe Abeloth once defeated puts a pieace of herself on his mortal body so him leaving his mortal body behind allowed him to return in his old more confident and positive self like in the end of the movie.
Just thinking.
After seeing the ending with hints and that shot of that particular distance i genuinely believe that you're right about it being Abeloth.
I'm not certain if they will call it Abeloth or use her Mortis backstory, but it does feel like something of her sort is luring in Baylan - an immensely powerful Force entity of some sort. Perhaps it'll be like a dark Bendu, or maybe something even less anthropomorphized.
This is possibly the most intriguing theory yet! I seriously hope they do it!
If it's true I would assume Abeloth is looking for a vessel because that's what she usually does inhabits somebody then wreaks destruction.
Shin 😮
@@nicholasmackeyy’all getting too deep
I mean Shin would be the likely vessel wouldn’t she? But would Baylan really sacrifice her like that? Shin seems like his daughter sometimes and that’d be messed up. Then again he does seem like he’s keeping something from her and why she’s clearly having doubts. Idk this still seems too good to be true for Disney
@@lg_1226I mean like Abeloth can drive people mad so who knows what she will do to baylan
@@lg_1226 Someone being led to their doom often get feelings of doubts before it happens.
What an interesting concept! Great job in explaining everything. Personally I would love to see this and it would be a great cliffhanger for season 2
The sister in owl form kept watch over Ashoka and I believe that Ashoka is going to gain the power of the sister and that the brother may inhabit another to take on this threat.
we just need a sign in the series to show the son is still somewhat alive
also where is the owl mori we havent seen it for the duration of the show
@@donovanmartin7946I believe they are, they are manifestations in the force, even if they somewhat "disappear" they could probably just appear again lol
@@donovanmartin7946maybe in the end. I can't imagine Filoni doesn't do this. Remember we always do this little guy at insane moments. At the end of clone wars with fresh Vader picking up Ahsokas lightsaber thinking she died, Ahsoka narrowly escaping Vader by some in between world before fighting Sidious, at the end of Rebels and probably at the end of the show once more
Thank you, as you are the first content creator to talk about this that I have seen. So many of the "nerd" star wars channels don't seem to know much of the now legends content. We know they are leaning heavily on legends even if they butcher the content.
If Disney introduces Abeloth to Star Wars I will apologize to them.
disney could honestly redeem themselves if they bring luke vs abeloth to the big screen
If I recall in the EU books, Abeloth was only released her prison when the flow of time in the Force was altered. Perhaps that "event" for the canon Star Wars was Ezra saving Ashoka from Vader in World Between Worlds. It clearly looked like Vader's last attack was going to kill her before Ezra pulled her through. From there, we see Ahsoka's influence surviving that encounter -- everything up until now.
That moment in Canon is when the Ones are killed on Mortis.
Im surprised that nobody has connected that the father, son and daughter are referred to as "the ones" and anakin the chosen "one". In one scene in ahsoka a bat like creature is seen possibly being the son, maybe it is the son calling out for help because maybe the son is acting alone trying to prevent abeloth from escaping, or perhaps wanting her to escape. And ahsoka being the daughter would also make sense that the force draws her to this other galaxy. I like the theory that it is abeloth or the son calling, but personally id be ok with it being something completely new and fresh to star wars
Star Wars Theory predicted such, kinda.
You’re right, but bringing Thrawn in from legends opens up what I think of as the best parts of the legends book to canon. The yuuzhan bong are all the chiss and Palpatine and Thrawn in particular are all about, tying an extra galactic threat with Abeloth and the mortis story line I think would fix the universe. The closer canon moves to legends the happier I’ll be.
You are the one that was, you are the one that is, and you are the one that will be. Wait, wrong franchise.😂
The Son is dead tho so he can't be calling out anything , the only One that is still alive is Anakin who is literally the Father now , so if Abeloth do exist in canon it is her awakening , but if they go with Abeloth story then Luke is a must have to headline the story and I don't think they will make Luke be the main character since it is Disney
@@davidkosiba624 Could it be the son, but it's really Anakin or Abeloth impersonating him? Is it already established canon what happens when a mortis God dies? Could they be trapped somewhere else? Does how they die affect that differently? Like how the daughter is now connected to Ahsoka per her death but didn't the son die not doing that? I know Luke is busy elsewhere with building bots, but id guess he could still multitask a little, how plausible and surprising might it be that it's Luke calling him there for whatever the reason? If Anakin is the father which seems already established and the father being the more power of the ones could he somehow resurrect/free the son hence seeing the bat and Bayan telling Ahsoka that she cannot beat him. So much resurrections on that planet, I wonder if Ahsoka's way home is in resurrecting Purgils somehow who's bones orbit the planet?
I think Thrawn is unaware of Abeloth or whatever entity inhabits the planet, the Night Sisters have been hiding that information and are using Thrawn to escape
Great theory, thanks for the background info!
Pretty interesting theory. It would be pretty interesting to see them bring this stuff into the live action shows. If they do, I feel like they'll wait to season 2. I'm anticipating that season 1 will end with Thrawn, Elsbeth, and the Sisters escaping to the home galaxy while Ahshoka, Huyang, Sabine, and Ezra get stranded (at least temporarily) with Shin on Peridea. Balen will theoretically be killed off before S2 of course, since the actor died. But yeah, anyhow... it'd be cool. Although I think it would actually be better for them to cover Abeloth as a villain in TV shows rather than movies. They can dedicate way more time to her with a few seasons of a TV show than with a trilogy of movies. But yeah, cool theory. Oh, and not trying to nitpick, but when you described Abeloth as having "indiscriminate height", it sounded kinda weird... "undescribed" would work well instead, meaning that they simply never described how tall she was. "Indiscriminate", on the other hand, means "at random or without careful judgment"... which just doesn't make sense when talking about someone's height. Anyway, great video, I enjoy all these theories and lore.
I’m glad they’re making the force a more mystical being. When it just felt like superpowers I could never understand why there was 2 massive religious like factions constantly at war over it
I’ve always wanted to see Abeloth in Star Wars especially in live action. I too was thinking this as the story in Ashoka continues. I’m trying not to get my hopes up because it’s such a niche part of the lore. The thought is very exciting though.
This is why I love stars wars legends the old comics the games going all the way back, there’s so many characters with so many stories tell and forces of evil that has yet to be seen on the screen
Wow, what a theory! Yes, they would need a certain pair of Force-sensitive twins to help their father in fighting Abeloth in an upcoming movie!!!! And there is an opportunity to introduce Mara Jade into that new set of stories, and it is HER death at the Jedi Academy that sends Luke into his personal exile?!?!
10:00 its so small but it sells the fight so damn well, the shoulder thrust, like he shrugging off the mist like its cover.
I HOPE Abeloth gets revealed or at least name dropped in Ahsoka soon
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
As far as anakin combating abeloth goes, this show technically takes place between episodes 6 and 7, so if the sequels still take place in exactly the same way, then Anakin was unable to combat Sidious when he returned so my thought process would be that by extension he would be unable to fight abeloth either. But then again since she is such a unique force entity Anakin may have a trick up his sleeve that works only on abeloth or something of that nature. But if he truly cannot do anything other than provide guidance on how to stop abeloth I fear she may be too powerful to exist in current cannon as is one of the reasons at least in my opinion that they haven’t brought back Starkiller; he’s known for being incredibly op but that kind of OP is too much for current cannon universe. Either way it’s definitely an interesting theory and I’m excited to see how this all plays out
What the hell are you talking about? Anakin was able to tame the son & daughter far before he even gained control over the light & dark side. Current Anakin is the most powerful.
Man I hope it's my man Palps. He's floating around out there during this time. "Somehow The Emperor has returned again to here too. Somehow" I love it!
I keep saying it's Abeloth or the canon version! It's the only thing that makes sense. Besides, Thrawn wants out quickly. Abeloth is coming, and I think she's being set up for a future villain.
She would have to be the next trilogy villain imo otherwise it be kinda stupid if just Ashoka and her gang fights her.
That was the next step after the invasive or a few more villians
@@aceneto9386I believe she'll appear as the main villain in Rey's future movie. Possibly even finally confirming Anakin as the Father.
Ahsoka - Daughter
Luke - Son
Anakin - Father
That could end the Mortis story perfectly.
@@jowoman7799meh
Abeloth is too powerful too dark gritty and scary for Disney lighthearted family friendly watered down censored pg star wars, also Dave filoni doesn't know how to write true evil without making them childish
The pictures are just beyond words 😍😍😍
I wonder what they'll do about baylan for the rest of the show, he seems too important to die in the show this quickly. Rip ray stevenson
wow. i had no idea. he's been gone for a while now, too.
abeloth will possess shin and kill baylan after maybe.
Thrawn will kill him and shin will switch sides.
So many theories out there. I dig this one. It's so out of left field
This is extremely disturbing. If Abeloth is here. Great enormous danger. And Baylan listens to it. Walking to it. I think Anakin can stop her. I'm not sure how Lucasfilm could put Abeloth in the show. Luke could battle her again maybe. We'll see what happens. May the Force be with you too😊
In this timeline, Luke hasn’t fought her yet.
@@pr3ludejr thanks
The magic of retcon! 😂😂😂
Abeloth should not be wasted on a show
In the image at 0:53, the Night Mother we see face on is Claudia Black, from Farscape and Stargate SG-1. I thought I'd just point that out.
If the Armorer really will never take her helmet off I'd love to see Emily Swallow play Abeloth.
Plus a scary yet echoing voice like the son of mortis’s one
I mean she played amara on supernatural,she has experience as all-powerful evil entities lol
I'm really excited to see how this all plays out, in Episode 7 and 8, as well as beyond that with the New Republic Era Cross Over Film.
I also find it cool that the New Republic fear the return of Thrawn, but Thrawn and especially the Night Sisters also fear something greater than themselves, which I find quite bone-chilling.
Bring on Episode 7
....oh no...she's becoming canon....that's both chilling and exciting, abeloth is one of the greatest evils in legends
She is The Greatest
And they will nerf her, because legends Luke was the only one who could even compete with her.
@robertedgemon8096 yeah they will ruin her like they ruined luke
You want Disney to ruin abeloth and turn her into a joke?
@@edgardpalotai619Yuuzahn Vong: hold my bio weapons
(Abeloth is a big Threat but for the whole Galaxy the Vong were a far far larger threat)
I mean seriously 365 Trillion people died to the Vong that’s exponentially more people who died to Abeloth)
I could also see it as the original Sith Eternal Emperor some sort of echo calling out to Baylon and this may be a good tie in for bringing in High republic episodes as they could explore Revan and Malak ect.. Maybe even one day having a stand alone show that follows Darth Bane ... way hopeful there.
Wow now that would truly be stunning to see happen!
Bro you should also cover hera's son
How he was able to sense the duel between ashoka and anakin in world between world .. i think his grasp on force is way more deep than many force users..
I thought the same thing. To have the power to actually sense the fighting. That's something pretty serious,and no one is really talking about it.
I mean he was conceived when Kannan was a force nexus so it's not that surprising really.
@@andrewsmisek8341 I'm not saying it is surprising.. I'm just saying that he is quite sensitive in force and since Luke is trying to build the order and there are aren't many force sensitive out there, so there is a high chance of this character getting traned by luke himself and to play an very crucial role in upcoming future .. but let's see what will happen...
They truly are bringing legends back, how exciting
I personally believe She is just 1 of 2 Threats Abeloth is the presence Baylen senses, however I personally see a threat as bit perhaps even worse. We are in another Galaxy and we all know who else came from another Galaxy the Yuuzahn Vong.
They cannot be sensed in the force. so small hole. I don't think there are enough Jedi yet for the vong. I thought they might introduce the vong when rey rebuilds the order to a cupla hundred.
The grysk haven't gone away either
Dave filoni is about to ruin more EU lore
@@summersoldier1003 that’s why I said “one of two threats” the one Baylen sensed is Abeloth but I’d love for the Yuuzahn Vong to be a separate threat.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 just let it happen at this point atleast Dave’s trying we ain’t gonna be getting any great Star Wars these days not since before Disney purchased it.
It’s all either just some semi decent stuff and the rest utter dog shit. (Apart from TCW S7 and Mando S2 cuz they were fire especially the siege of Mandalor)
Tho I am glad we are finally moving away from Mandalor stuff for a bit. We just gotta hope Dave does his best.
this video and information was SPOT ON
Perhaps anakin and abeloth are even in power and neither have been able to destroy the other without outside help
I really hope so. This would be soo cool!
I really want Abeloth to happen but the way star wars is set up now I just think there trying to tie loose corner on how palpatine returns. So I think it's palpatine sending whispers through the force like he did with Ezra and yoda
God, I hope not
Pardon me, but fuck that.
That would be so bad
I don't think feloni would look so excited talking about the secrets of ahsoka if that were the case. He's made his feelings on palps known.
Queen of the Stars. Goddess of Chaos - Abeloth in live action would be stunningly amazing/beautiful to behold.
It would be pretty wild if they brought Abeloth into the new canon this early in the timeline.
it's entirely possible time moves differently in the new distant galaxy, or in the world between worlds.
if they ever return to the known galaxy, hundreds or thousands of years could have gone by
Facts plus it could explain why we never really saw Ashoka in canon after the empire was destroyed
A reason I think its her is the Bendu's final words to Thrawn. Bendu said "I see your defeat, like many arms surrounding you in a cold embrace"
The end of Rebels seems to show that was the whales, but they would be more a neutral party.
What if, that many arms of cold embrace to come, would be Abeloth.
If Abeloth does come back, it’d be a great way to have Luke come to deal with it, imagine if they go full legends and introduce Darth krayt
Darth kraty would actually work for this canon universe especially this early
yes if abeloth is even remotely in the books there needs to be more big bads than just thrawn. one story at a time though i suppose@@wolfsbanealphas617
What if it's Darth Krayt that's calling to Baylan?
So, basically, not only will the Galaxy need to deal with Thrawn, but also Abeloth? Absolutely fire.
After all, the Bendu DID predict that Thrawn’s end would be by several hands like a cold embrace (not EXACTLY what he said, just paraphrasing)
The force manifesting differently in every galaxy is honestly such a fascinating concept I wish it was more explored, like hell what the hell even is the force? A beyond comprehension life form?
I seriously hope they introduce Abeloth, but hope they don’t degrade her power too much. Knowing the live action audience is mostly different from the rest of us who k ew about her already. I just want her to bring the feeling of inevitability as Palpatine did originally
If abeloth is in this, then they should get Luke Skywalker as a main.
@@solastro5595nope Disney ruined him
@@solastro5595He died and I don’t think force ghosts fight anymore plus we don’t have any sith after sidious in the sequels
She’s a she, so her power level will probably be the same, if not exponentially greater.
I hope they dont. There is no way they can bring her here without ruining her character
Theory: Baylan's lightsaber hilt houses an ancient evil spirit. That's why it was not in the temple's hilt archives. That's why they inserted that piece of dialogue, giving mystery, but then also the foreshadowing of Baylan Skoll destroying 'the map' which was early on viewed as 'the key' with his lightsaber -- the lightsaber being Baylan's key to his goals. A hint by destroying one key with another.
**However, if not an evil spirit it could also have a holocron with instructions in it. Perhaps a hilt that was top secret and hidden in a vault until the destruction of the Jedi Temple(s).
That would be cool if it was abeloth. But I don't think it is.
Excellent job sir
Baylan wouldn’t be knowingly seeking out Abeloth. If he’s anything he’s cautious and I would say a chaotic good character. There’s definitely SOMETHING supernatural about Peridea, but Abeloth is probably too deep of a cut unless they’re planning on doing a few more seasons of Ahsoka.
i agree. possibly some kind of scaled down version of her (legends force powers are insanely overpowered compaired to canon) or a new threat making indirect references as estereggs.
They are planning a second season at least of Ahsoka
My guess is this theory is going to be way cooler and well thought out than what they have planned.
I've also heard that it could be The Son. When Shin looks out at the planet you can see a bat-like creature that flies way that could be the son and his bat form.
This is the best theory so far!
But where did she get his number tho 🤔
😂😂😂
Yes! I hope it's Abeloth, I haven't seen anyone else talk about the possibility yet but I've thought it since the episode came out
I doubt Abeloth would appear in Canon. She's way too disturbing for Disney as Disney isn't known for Eldritch Horror elements. If anything they might add a character similar to Abeloth just like how Shin Hati is similar to Lana Beniko.
All Disney needs is a scary episode disclaimer like they've done before with viewer discresion
@@SubremedyYeaaaa but they want it to be family friendly
I've been praying for a Death Troopers live action movie for years but I know its a pipe dream; just like the rest of my EU fan dreams. Disney wouldn't touch Death Troopers or the lore behind Old Republic dark side forces with a 100ft pole.
Love the breakdown!!!
Its not Abeloth, there is one more powerful in the dark side, Darth Kathleen.
😂😂
I'm actually astounded at how much sense this actually makes. Here's hoping they've got the guts to pull this off.
Abeloth is on a scale akin to Fenrir from the saga of ragnarok, and with Skol.and Hati being Fenrir's children it makes sense
this may very well be true. the final episode of ahsoka ends with baylan standing on a giant mountain carved into the shape of the father and son
The problem with everything happening right now with Ashoka, Thrawn, and even Abeloth is that everything that is currently happening is so insignificant that none of it was even hinted at in the sequel trilogy. Of course, none of this was even considered at the time when those films were made, but they’re still canon, and unless Disney plans on retconning them out of existence, nothing that happens in the current stories matters one little bit. Thanks KK!
I can imagine the nightmothers stating in hushed voices "The thread of fate has been destroyed" as we are launched into a new timeline
honestly that's one giant L take right there, buddy!
Shit take there dude that's like saying the original trilogy and prequels never mentioned Ashoka therefore her story doesn't matter one bit
same can be said about the Prequels not acknowledging events in Clone Wars show, or OT trilogy not acknowledging anything in the Rebels show. In fact, you can skip literally every single star wars tv show to date and the films make sense without them.
Can anyone tell me the name of the background music in the first half of the video? I cant find it and its driving me crazy.
Disney SW really hates Luke
Great theory!!
If it's Abeloth.....man I hope they don't f**k it up
I hope it’s Abeloth because it would end up creating a war on two fronts, the Imperial Remnants lead by Thrawn and Abeloth who’s out for revenge against the Jedi and pure chaos, which will be awesome to witness in Star Wars live action
but I have an theory, what if she’s trapped in the world between worlds and the only way to get in to free her is through a gateway on Peridia because the Mortis gods made it so no one could free, and why the purgill go there to die, but also that’s could be why Anakin is there, the one is the guardian on Abeloth’s Prison and Baylan frees her but has to fight Anakin who’s trying to stop him and Shin
Awesome Video 😁
Could be an undertone to Ezra's comments about how he can't wait to go home. Perhaps she's been haunting his dreams, and he's starting to lose the game...
I mean if you were stranded on a planet for 10 years with crabs you’d wanna leave to I’m sure lol 😂
Think they give him the Castaway treatment when he gets home. Stranded for almost 10 years with hermit crabs, comes home to a seafood feast! 😂
It won't be her.
It's to cool, to much of a story. Therefore, Disney won't do it.
I'm loving how much this show is exploring, everyone's been joking about every other scence being on Tatooine and now they're like, cool here's a witch waste land home world, with an asteroid belt that's actually a space whale graveyard
Oh dear. Is this going to be like the theory you had about Starkiller being Marrok?
yes, it will be.
We are just speculating but if Abeloth angle turns out to be true that would be sick. Anakin is not yet understood. If he takes the place of the father that would be sick too but him being some kind of guardian in the WbW would be awesome too. I’m stoked for the next two episodes
Grab your ticket if your here before this hits a thousand views
Having Thrawn, Chimera and the night troopers and Abeloth in one series would be extraordinary!
We need a Star Wars horror feature about abeloth.The idea of something or someone purely evil with basically all the power in the galaxy with almost little to no real challengers. It’s scary af.
That was basically Sith Emperor Vitiate amongst his own people and the empires he forged.
Amazing!