Can this 13 Year Old Gaming PC Survive today’s games!?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
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The most mind-blowing thing in this video is the fact that kids from 2008 are now 12/13
Whut?
Kids born in 2000 are fully grown 21 year old adults this year.
Edit: They're not kids anymore. xD
can confirm
@@rollin340 yep. My 21st is coming up :)
@@stonalisa3729 I feel old. xD
I hope you have a good birthday. :)
It actually makes a pleasant change to see you looking at older hardware instead of high end gear
Would be interesting how his older skunkworks configurations would do in todays games. His triple GTX 780 SLI from back then would be quite a show.
Yesterdays high end is todays used budget.
@@HappyBeezerStudios still running this setup with a 4930k. Graphical performance about on par with a laptop rtx3080 or a desktop 3060/3060ti at a push
@@FunFactsAboutTech what?
@@maugod6972 what?
Only because GPUs.
I think the reason Doom didn't run is because it requires an instruction set that the cpu doesn't support. It's something to watch out for when buying old cpus, even high performance ones.
As Jay has said before: who cares if it’s laggy or slow, if you don’t own a computer now, you’re not able to load or play anything anyway!
Who cares? People like myself who have played games at 20-30 fps and realize how crappy an experience it is.
He played it for 10 minutes and got bored.
Imagine playing it for years.
@@christopherkidwell9817 given a choice between 4 k or 60 fps i would chose the 4 k option in video games. i play pc games and even i cant say i see a deference betwean 30 fps and 60 fps
This comment is so not the right take lmao
@@supersaiyaman11589 you don’t play enough especially competitive. 30-60 is a huge difference. You can see its stuttering and lagging. Even 60fps you can see how how slow the game moves.
A barely 5 hour old video With subtitles ?
The deaf and hearing impeared community thanks you!
Seriously tho Jay. Thank you ♡
I think you can have RUclips auto generate subtitles on all video's now. It's not always accurate since it uses speech recognition software, but it's still awesome. I have a hard time hearing voices, and prefer CC to be on.
@@LePedant Yes you can. But it takes hours upon hours, even with videos that have clear, well enunciated audio.
@@urbypilot2136 From what I understand it uses the same software that Google uses for voice to text on Android. So, the translation should be instant.
@@LePedant Not from my experience making videos for clients. It will start as soon as the video is uploaded, but the subs will still take time to complete and be available to view. The new captioning feature on Premiere Pro is a lot faster.
But then again, my clients' videos are Unlisted and for internal use only. So they probably get the least priority with the subtitling servers, compared to Public (and monetized videos). 🤷♀️
@@urbypilot2136 I just Googled it, and they have 2 versions, one for live streams and one for VOD. The VOD takes time but is more accurate.
slow today but 15 years ago it was not even possible. This is a great machine for retro gaming, the games that it was built for were fun to play and still are.
It really needs 8 gigs of RAM.
I have an old Q9650 in a 3rd rig (can't let it go) that I use for mostly non-gaming now, but the last real game I ran with it was Far Cry 3, on a GX 670. It could do 45 fps at best and dipped into the high teens when the CPU got swamped. I have some older games like Diablo 2 on it though.
@@Gamevet i am running a q9550 with a 1050ti 4g ddr5, the system mobo only supports 2 gig of ddr2 800, I play tombraider underworld and games like that with no issues. That being said it is easy for me to bog the machine down with google chrome and a few other things running..
@@rodhester2166 I almost feel bad for that Q9550, but I'm sure the 1050 Ti is saying: "What are you crying about CPU?"
@@Gamevet My plan is to upgrade next year, I have been selling retro machines and games and saving all that income for next year. The market for dos, win95, win98 and some winxp machines is good right now.. I did not realize how much stuff I had in my basement. lol..
@@rodhester2166 same here, it feels good to get decent prices out of the stuff rather than almost giving it away
Still rocking an AMD FX-8350 @ 4.5GHz, 16G memory, a GTX 1070, and SSD boot drive. Still plays every game I want to play (The Crew, Forza Horizon, Forza Motorsport, etc) at 1080p, 60fps, ultra settings no problem. Would be cool to see Jay to a video on the 8350.
I was still running an FX-8320 @ 4.3 GHz with 32 GB's of ram and an RX570, and it was still burning 60-100 FPS in most games I played. Gave it a small upgrade to a 6500XT GPU last year just to give it some new life to an old stalwart, until i built my new rig as a late Christmas present to myself. Now my son is excited to get the old one just because he knows it's loaded with about 3 TB's of games ready to play.
I'm really interested to see what the ancient Phenom II will do if i bring it back from the dead, since somehow the kids made it crap out about two years ago.
I just finished off a build for my daughter yesterday, with the final piece being a GTX950. i5-3450 and 8 GB of RAM, she's ready to rock.
Nice brother
That’s a decent setup. A few years ago in college I was gaming on a Phenom II, GTX 950 rig. ✌️
Umm can that even run a game 🤣
@@RawWrath it runs Minecraft and Among Us just fine, way better than the old 1st gen core i3 laptop she was using
@@RawWrath I could run ME:Andromeda with 40-60 fps, played through Arkham Knight as well. The 950 was an awesome low budget card.
I love how you manage to come up with good and original material at a time when there isn't that much
Fr lol, still waiting for that engine pc part 2 though
The channel dawidoestechstuff is really good and he buys a ton of old or weird stuff and try’s to game on it
@@Jeff-fr4ts oh yeah I know the guy, he's really funny
@@Jeff-fr4ts I love dawid man his videos are really great fun
RandomGaminginHD. He is very entertaining and viable. I like his stance on old hardware. Especially the common folk like us who cant afford high end.
2:46 "My Little Homie" totally caught me off guard :D
12:47 Jay: "ReAlLy OlD hArDwArE"
Clint Basinger entered the chat. "Greedings!"
Mmm, green glow gaming
this old content is great, getting newish titles to run well on old hardware is always satisfying to watch
Cs:go is newish rocket league are newish? Lmao
I was still rocking a GTX960 with 4GB VRAM and 8GB RAM up until a couple months ago. Although I couldn’t play all games on high, it wasn’t horrible.
Ive been using an rx 560 4gb vram, with 8gb ram, with a ryzen 3 2300x cpu, so super low end, and now since prices dropped, got the radeon 6600 and a ryzen 5 5600x
my boy uploading on a sunday to make the day a whole lot better
Am I your boy? :-)
@real t3xq so mean!.. but yes 🤣😂🤣
My boy... jesus man youtube commenters are so full of it.
@Fun With Minerals you read the comment on monday it was posted on sunday ;)
@Fun With Minerals 😭 i know 🤣
I would love to see a video on playing old games with new hardware. DosBox, GOG, VirtualBox running Dos 6.22 and Windows 3.1... Might want to see about getting someone like LGR to colab with you on it.
This could be fun doooeeeett
How are you verified?
I'd like to see Jay play Descent... 😆
Take it a couple steps farther and find / cobble together an old pc that runs those games how they were intended to be played.
lol virtualbox. the kid version of a virtual machine software. vmware player or HYPER-V or even qemu is king.
also, I'd love to see games running on modern integrated graphics systems
Now this is an interesting idea
Me watching on my 15 yr old pentium 4. Still alive and kicking.
My Pentium 4 is at least 17 y/o, my mom bought it second hand, its my first pc and still works just fine, unfortunately is one of the first pentium 4, the mobo only has PCI and IDE ports, so I'm stuck with my lovely MX4000 on that and no ssd.
I’m watching on an AM2 Athlon 64 (an X2 5600+). At 1080p. It works but I need the help of h264ify. Threw a SSD and a wifi card, and it runs as well as a $300 el cheapo laptop.
@@codfish1113 same gang
Can a Pentium 4 even handle RUclips over 480p? My core2duo from the early 00's was pinned at 100% watching RUclips.
why? You can get a MUCH faster PC for pretty cheap...
a 3rd to 5th gen i5 PC should be available for around 50 bucks, maybe get a GT 750 or something like that for the same money and you can play at least some games. I was able to play Cyberpunk on my server (2x Xeon X5690 128GB RAM) with a Quadro K4000. Just don't crank resolution up to the max and you should be fine. 1366x768 is what I use.
My PC got a i5 8500 (around 50€) and a GTX 970 (I paid 150 for it, but that was a few years ago) and I can play more or less any game I want on ultra. Yes, even Cyberpunk 2077.
You don't need to spend 1000€+ on a PC to be able to game on it. If you go AMD/ATI you could probably whack a decent PC together for around 300€.
I'm pairing an R9 5900x with a GTX 770. The 770 has been running every day for the past 9 years. It'll have to do another year as it seems, untill the prices drop.
damn bro.... you really have a unbalanced machine haha
I am also still on a 770. Had to repair it two times already. The first time after 6 years because Palit was using some pretty bad thermal paste and the the second time back in November of last year, when it showed artefacts all over the place. I was able to bring it back with a heatgun. Since then I am waiting for a 3080 to be available at msrp and praying that my card doesn't die a third time.
Don't get me wrong, the card is hopelessly outdated but it's still way better than the GT 510 I was using while researching how I could repair the card.
U should try newer parts with a old gpu to see how bad the bottle neck really is and if it is usable until future gpu prices
This would be a great idea. If people could see how a 950 pairs with something like a 10700k as they wait for a available 30 series.
Honestly I love this idea
I built a PC with an i5-10400, 16GB 3000MHz, and a used GTX 950 xD
I had a i7-6700k with 32 gig ram and running a GTX970, Upgraded to a 5900x with some new ram and still running the 970 and honestly it feels worse now. I get more screen tearing now than before.
U can buy a laptop with a repectable set up used for extremely cheap right now. Im getting spoiled with "mobile" gaming. Fps drop without the power cord sucks but still ok
8:23 and that's the reason why Jay is still married
Underrated comment.
Hahahaha
Lmao!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
is that why heather left? aww it burns...
Jay's video in June: "Can we put together a PC with parts found at the scrapyard...coz that's all there is"
might have a war in that scrapyard
@@landonpeckham7752 good one!
Where Is this scrap yard?
@@wolfendenracing2826 depending on where you live, the scrapyard will be your local recycling centre if they take computer donations. I've read in some other RUclipsr threads 1st-4th gen Intel i series are being recycled! It will be YMMV whether they'll allow you to dig through it. I would also keep any eye on your local Craigslist and FB marketplace freebies section. Myself, I was able to pickup a free 3rd gen i5 3470 cpu/mb/6gb ram via cl. Of course, cheap or freebie deals like this will disappear super quick! Another guy even gave away a free GTX 980!
redux charges almost 1k usd for a 3070, watch out with their "no upsell" thing :D
Yeah, when Jay covered them initially their prices weren't too outrageous (other than silly stuff like needing to get a 3700X to actually get something better than an A520 mobo). Of course the AIBs are jacking up their asking price so maybe that is what they are having to pay the distributor to get any.
Redux actually used to have really fantastic prices for someone who wanted reliable parts for just an additional build fee.
My lord, is that... legal?
That's because they probably pay more for those cards now as well. They charge $300 for 1650, while that card wasn't nearly as expensive back in the day. Also it's not like you can buy 3070 for this low. I think we should stop expecting assemblers to charge the mythical Nvidia MSRP for those cards. Also, there are bigger issues with Redux like forcing unnecessary premium items like Wifi card, 600W PSU for 1650 builds, AIOs and expensive cases, as well as Windows for basically retail price. They basically leverage their access to GPUs as much as they can without offering any noteworthy choice.
Looks like they charge 855 for a 3070. Wonder which one they will install for you? Would be nice to know which one it is
The crazy part is that even if the CPU was 1-2 generations newer it would make this totally usable.
I had to use a q6600 when my mobo died, it got me into overclocking and I was really impressed with it’s performance in this day and age
Has anyone mentioned trying to get some physical arcade machines? Build one? Tournament? Phil would need a milk crate to stand on.
Jayz2cents making a video for us who didn't win the giveaway
Yeah I definitely checked my email three times that day lol
On RTFM you made note on how you'd practice speaking in the car in an exaggerated radio voice, so that when you did sit down in front of the camera, your tonality was between that amped up DJ voice, and low key narration. to you im sure it was obvious, but that practice had never really crossed my mind, and it's definitely helped my public speaking in the couple weeks I've been using it. Could you do a video that focuses around your mindset and the preparation you take when you sit in front of a camera and do a talking head? I understand that in the world of content creation, as a presenter, you either have it, or you don't, and you probably think a video like that would be mundane, but for those of us who are developing a content creation style, I feel like it would be massively beneficial to understand your creative processes having seen the finished product for so many years. Talk about how when you added Nick and Phil help you, how your workflow changed, what you wish you would've done differently. I understand that there in an element to peeling back the curtain, and you'd be hesitant to divulge your trade secrets, but it would be very interesting to know what a normal day is like from unlocking the studio door, to when everybody goes home. Thanks for the many hours of great content gents!
I'd appreciate a video, or series of videos, to actually understanding how GPUs and video games interact so we can learn how to optimize our GPU performance for better gaming. Especially useful considering some of us may be relying on older hardware.
id like a video explaining all the nvidia control panel settings, some are a bit confusing.
Still want to see the really old school gaming hardware, from when the first 3D cards came out. VooDoo series, Riva TNT cards.. back when you had to actually set up your IRQ and DMA manually! :D
Might wanna take a look at PhilsComputerLab
Hmm I know you've talked a lot about hiding messy cables but I wish you did a video where you actually bought the clips, catches, sleeves, etc and showed each solution in action on a desk
Jay, you’re looking at current auction prices on eBay. If you filter by “buy now” you will see that sellers are actually asking over 100 dollars for a GTX 950.
I was laughing my butt off at that in his last video, and he did it again! Prob good that he doesnt use ebay though and get ripped off by greedy sellers on there
Definitely, some out there for $150-$200 if you buy from a seller that accepts returns.
Which is why you never buy with the buy it now option, wait a week or two by bidding until you land a good deal, bought 3 GPUs from eBay auctions ranging from £40 below BIN to £100 below BIN, and these are all 6-7 year old GPUs (Maxwell/Hawaii era)
I saw a gtx 980 on a local used-goods site advertised for 599 euro.
A 1080 for 800 euro and a 2070 for 990 euro. Blew my mind.
Current prices on GT750 (not Ti!) are close to 100$ in the shops, not on a FU (formerly used) market...
seeing these "retro" type videos, really makes me wanna do the challenge i have for myself: Build 2 PCs and compare them to each other. the 1st being the performance "equivalent" of my first ever PC, (which with all the different chip skus out there really makes it tough) and 2 that matches the COST of that 1st PC ($2,032.87) to "show" how far the range in price to performance has evolved.
in May 2008, DIY build. Intel E8500 (replaced by Q9650), Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6, Zalman ZM850-HP 850w power supply, Zalman CNPS9500-AT cpu fan, OCZ3P20004GK DDR3 2000MHz 4 GB Kit Platinum, Seagate 2tb 7,600rpm sata hdd, Thermaltake Armor Plus VH6000SWA Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case. GPU's originally started with ATI Radeon HD3870's in Xfire config. later replaced with HD 6870's. Still works, replaced the HD6870's with one R9-280X, Pioneer DVR-215D optical drive. Last time used the system was in 2014. Guess have either Windows 7 or 8.1 cost to build was close to $1,600 and with the ACER P243W 2ms gtg 24 inch monitor of $400 makes it $2,000. I still use the ACER P243W nearly everyday or average 300 days out of 365 per year and works like the day I bought it. Logitech Internet Keyboard, Logitech mouse, Logitech 2.1 sound bar. Linksys/Cisco AE2500 USB Network Adapter. Plantronics Audio 955H headset. Yes! I know I have DDR2 sitting around with a little bit older motherboard. I have a 2002 Compaq Presario 5423US that uses PATA Drives and think it has a PNY GeForce 7600GS AGP not PCIe. Before that was 2001 Compaq Presario 7000T with Pentium 4 1.4GHz Williamette 478 socket and the worse kind of memory was RAMBUS and Windows ME. The best OS of them all is Windows XP Pro. Worse OS of all time is Windows 10 for all the Spyware, Adware, Malware and hidden stuff that Microsoft imbedded in Windows 10, if MS kept their noses clean and not steal your Privacy then yes! Windows 10 would be ranked #2 behind Win XP. Oh! Apple, MS, Spectrum, Verizon, Comcast and many large corporations have negotiated with the U.S. Government and foreign gov'ts to send everything they can about you. You have zero privacy and nothing is confidential. COVID-19 is a conspiracy. CDC and WHO, U.S., Russia and China and other gov'ts planned the greatest hoax of all time. Got to make people fear the wealthy and powerful. Income inequality at the largest gap ever. Rich get wealthier and Poor become poorer. Don't forget about racial tension - divide and conquer also the U.S 2nd Amendment "the right to bear arms" but they trying to take that away so unable to defend ourselves. Before the Great Recession the stock market was around 13,000 points and a decade later over 35,000 points at various times. A lot of people (maybe around 10 million) do not have jobs or family supportive jobs , less middle class and add a few into the top 10 percent while more have fallen into poverty. When the stock market crashes, people lose jobs and when it recovers many never get their jobs back. What's wrong with the system? Don't worry, Get even!
Keep it up Jay, this is the type of conent we love!
This is actually the build I am making, appreciate the insight
Still sitting on my old hardware. Upgraded a few weeks ago. i7 920 with a 770fe and 9600k with a 960. Cant find anyone who wants to buy. One day I'll meet a struggling gamer and just make their day.
YAY for Older hardware! I'm still rocking an old system and have no problems playing WoW or World of Warships!
AMD FX8350 (AM3+ Socket) 8core 4.3GHz
Corsair H45 Liquid CPU Cooler 120mm AIO
Asus Sabertooth 990FX r2.0 mobo
16Gb (4 x 4Gb) DDR3 PC3-10700 Corsair 667MHz ram
Asus GeForce GTX950 Stryx 2Gb
Antec GX500 Case
2x 120mm front Noctua NF-S12A fan
1x 120mm top stock fan
90mm rear Noctua NF-B9 redux-1600 fan
That samir reference killed me hahaha. Loved the video man so entertaining!
@@garyhope6577 right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I wanted to hear "Jay, you are breaking the PC!" after all those game crashes lol
Thank you Jay, as said above it’s awesome that you are able to find new ways to continue to entertain us. I haven’t been watching for long but I’ve watched SO many of your videos already. You are by far my favorite tech tuber!!!
Retro gaming is a blast. I’m still rocking my 2008 Gateway desktop running XP. T-72, Mechwarrior 4, Armored Fist 3, Tron 2.0, etc. I’m not sure they even make games like that any more.
Trust Jay to choose 3 really well optimised games.
Would have been nice to see this hardware run higher end games, which again is possible.
@12:50
I see Jay is Random Gaming in HD, huh? 😜
I love Steve's work, he like the not real coordinated kid who gives it his all because he just loves having fun😁,
Sophie is doing an Awesome job with CGinHD too🥰
"I'm playing way below my rank"
What's below bronze?
Ask Linus.
Iron
iron
wood tier
@viva la dirt league
flint no wait nuckle
Couple of ideas for topics for your consideration;
1. How to set up for twitch streaming pc or consoles. (Can be searched but could be interesting)
2. VR gaming, what is needed hardware/space wise, is it worth it? (Again, could be searched, but potentially hilarious if you do a vid)
Gaming on old hardware is fun! I've got a HP XW6600, twin Xeon E5450, 32Gb DDR2 ram, GTX 950. I run Asseto Corsa, Wreckfest, Beam NG, and edit vids in Davinci Resolve. Still does it all perfectly well! I also have the exact Gigabyte mobo, CPU and ram that is being used in this vid too!
Still rocking a asus crosshair 3, with am3 6 core, ddr3, and a msi 580 card.. still working and still getting the job done.
yeah phenom 1055T here on a gigabyte 880G ud3h 12g ddr3,1060 3g or rx 470 4g going strong.!0 years old and still play's what i play at 1080p.eveonline,black desert,wow etc
I had that setup, it's hot in your room isn't it?
@@ffwast in the summer can be but overall be no diff having intel now days
Upgrade your cpu if you can. It is a huge bottleneck and some games wont even launch because phenom cpus lack some intruction sets.
yeah avx and sse 4.2.I don't have a problem with that for what i play .
The gpu's yeah i knew they be bottlenecked day i bought them.
rx 470,280x,1060's was bought for dual purpose back before this mining boom ie mining eth,zcash 2016-2018 and folding (was very profitable back in 2018)
I am waiting for ddr5 before i blow any cash on a new rig.See where the chips lay for upgrade paths for amd platform then
I got a i5 750 from 2009 and a GTX 680, so it's pretty darn close to that system... Gaming is possible ;)
Upgrade the CPU to a i7 u should be able to shove in a 1060, av seen people use that combo and it fairs well
i have an i5 2500k abd sli 580 msi lightning in my hol home and it used to be amazing at running bf3 but for some reason its stuggles on that game. I believe these firms corrupt the older card with their drivers out of spite and greed.
i run just about the same thing only i'm using a xeon e5450 3ghz quad modded to work in a lga775 motherboard and 8gb ram. my cpu and motherboard are from 2007 and my gpu is a gtx 750 ti lol
it just works
Actually I just got into overclocking. Future will tell how that's gonna work and what performance upgrade will show
I have a laptop with a 1650. 1080p 60hz. All I need and love it.
This system is only one generation newer than the first PC I solo built. (E8400, GT9600)
Which has needed some repairs over the years, but still works to this day.
Him putting a GTX 950 or an RX 570 in there is something I NEVER considered doing to my old system, as I was bumping into some bottleneck issues in some games with a freaking GTX 470 in that thing.
The old hardware is interesting, I'd like to see what tricks you did back in the day to make your systems faster, or an early version of SLI era build. Thanks for your wisdom and humor!!!
You should make a video on what is the oldest Hardware you can use today you should make three categories low-end titles/workload mid-range titles/ workload high-end titles/ harder workload
That all comes down to what you want to play tbh. You could still use an Apple E-2 if you used the old programs.
I have a 11year old 1090T system that has 16gigs of ram and a get 1060 in it, it will run most things fine. "My wife and daughter use it, mostly for sims and minecraft"
Still rocking with my ten-year-old i7-3770 system (circa 2012). Upgraded mid way to an NVIDIA GTX 970, granting a new second wind to reasonably deal with more recent games.
I had a very similar setup to this one: first gen i7, 6gb ram, and a gtx 950. I finally upgraded last week, to a i3 10100f and 16gb of ram, but i kept the 950 for obvious reasons
Customer: "I'm on an old blah blah blah, blah blah blah." Jay: "So have you heard of Dirt 2.0?"
What a beautiful game. Just got it running on my asus turbo 1080 on 1080p.. lovely sight to behold.
But a 1080 on a 1080p isn't something to write about. I use a GTX 1080 on a 1440p monitor and still run max settings on some modern games at a decent 60-100 fps. The GTX 1080 card is still a beast.
@@lanoche The 10xx series cards are awesome the same way the 2xx series was. (Yeah, I'm old.)
I appreciate how you aren't giving the new GPUs the spotlight unlike every other tech tuber since nobody can obtain them/ shouldn't buy for the crazy markups. 👍
Jayz and optimumtech are the only tech channels that i enjoy watching.
Probably because I bitched about it in one of his recent GPU videos about how I’m tired of seeing vids about stuff I can’t even buy lol seems he may have took my words to heart.
Oh, grow up. Jay/Steve/Linus and whoever is not doing their ,,normal" videos just because crybabies like you. Lot of people still managed to buy 30 series gpus, but cannot watch Jay screwing around with them (ocing, doing experiments etc.) because first thing after he posts a video with 3080 in it bunch of guys start screaming in his replies that they cannot buy them. I cant buy '68 Camaro where I live, but I still enjoy watching videos about it...
As has always been the case ever since windows became mainstream, the #1 requirement is RAM! No amount of CPU or GPU power can compensate for lack of RAM. Stick 8GB of DDR2 in that thing(16GB would be a waste if it even supports that much) and it would be "okay". Next hurdle is CPU instructions. The older the CPU the more likely it will lack an instruction that is commonly used now.. Then comes the GPU, which they already addressed just fine. And last is storage speed, which they also addressed. You can get a 500GB SATA SSD for pretty damn cheap now.
As long as you stick to the older PC games someone could still have a lot of fun on that system. And if you are willing to expand your gaming horizons, you can get into retro gaming! That system would easily run old arcade games, NES, SNES, Genesis, and maybe even PS1 and N64. And you can download all those old games for free, and they take up so little space!
Was using my 2008 build upto 2019. Asus maximus II formula 8gb ddr2 q9550 oc to 3.8ghz. In a sweet antec 900 case. Started life with a geforce 9800oc finally a gtx970. Played everything well upto doom eternal. Amazing.
There's actually a mod to play doom eternal on core 2 quads as long as they are 8000/9000 series as they support sse 4.1 instruction set, and because of this game great optimalization it is over 30fps and it reaches 60fps sometimes, core 2 quads 6000 series sadly cannot run it because it lacks of sse 4.1 instruction set compatibility. That is also a reason why you cannot run it on amd athlon/phenom processors on am2/am3, but there are programs like intel sde that you can use to emulate lacking instructions to run it whenever your supports it or not, but performance hit is big enough that it isn't really useful.
I ran the 2016 Doom on a Core 2 Quad and it's absolutely playable.
Eternal will need more, but nice to see it can do.
@@HappyBeezerStudios 2016 doom is playable even on dual core athlon 64 :)
I've had the Thermaltake Intermittent Power before, don't recommend.
Built a Q8400 + HD6670 as an HTPC, played Castlevania 1, killer is dead, batman arkham asylum, darksiders on 4GB DDR2 TeamElite RAM. Of course @720p. Binging these old hardware series you have going on!
The most mind-blowing part is that this pc just spec obliterates my first high-end pc which still feels like I got it in fairly recent memory (X2 3800+/1GB DDR400/X1900XTX). That's back when 5:4 and 4:3 monitors were still mainstream and most people still had CRT's
This makes me feel a lot better about my old i7 4790+r9 290X
Same
Makes me feel good about my 1050 & i5 7300HQ laptop
I’m glad to have 5800x and gtx 1080
The 290X is still on par with the RX570 so it's not a bad card
@@benbaer3525 G'day Ben, good to hear you are enjoying your R7 5800X paired with your GTX1080, I upgraded my i7-3770K to a R9 3900X to go with my GTX1080Ti when 5000 was released last year, Sooo Awesome! 🥰, I have kept the i7 & it is now a Testbench for playing 'Can I OC' & testing used GPUs I buy,
I have seen many whinging comments from people complaining they can't use their 10-11Gen Intel or 5000 AMD CPU setup they just bought because they can't buy a New GPU, but then go on to say how they are still using their 8-9Gen or 2000/3000 CPU & RTX2000 or RX5000 GPU,
Their Reasoning being something Stoopid like 'I can't Run an Old GPU on my New CPU because it would just be a waste of my new CPU performance',
If you ask me not as much waste as just leaving parts someone else would love to have sitting in their box in a cupboard unused,
Hope you are having lots of fun enjoying your parts, unlike those others too Stoopid to realize what they are doing is Stoopid 😁
R9 290X not bad at all! Power hungry, but performance is decent. Few cards even have got 8GB of VRAM!
I still remember upgrading from a Core 2 duo and a 9800gt to an i5 and a 1070 then to a i9 and a 2080ti such a crazy jump each time.
I jumped from fx 9590 & 970sli to a Ryzen 9 and RTX 3070 so i feel you
I'd love to see some random watercooling stuff, like "dumbest idea ever" with the 480x480 rad. loved that one
My old Feb 2009 built PC is using the 4th motherboard and survive with Intel Core 2 duo E8500(Gaming Beast), DDR 3-8gb Dual channel 1066mhz, Intel G41 Express Chipset from afox motherboard, 2TB harddisk 7200rpm, Window 7 -64bit. Enjoy watching youtube 1080p, Charging mobile phone & powerbank using the USB 2, Play online Dota 2, Call of duty, light gaming old pc games,etc.
I'd love to see him show old phenoms and athlon x4 like a 640
You know it's old when Jay can't remember how much ram is in it and needs to double check :P
I used a 2007 build with Win XP until 2018 until my motherboard failed. Worked fine for the games I was running. This frenzy of constant upgrades are often just a ruse for consumerism.
I live in California too and the heat is coming, supposed to be 106 on memorial day. what i would like to see you guys mess around with is a liquid cooling system where the radiator and fans are actually outside of the house, that way all the heat is brought directly outside. My thoughts are that this would reduce the load on the AC system. Obviously this would require a lot of liquid and pipes and i have no experience with custom cooling
Hey Jay, would love to see you guys touch base on the topic about- If noise is out of the equation , does it matter if I keep fans at 100% at all times? & the silly question of does RGB have a negative impact on performance , and if so , how much?
RGB shouldn't have any impact, there is basically no head from LEDs, so in influence on thermals, and power draw is so small that it shouldn't do anything to performance.
Fans on 100% is a different thing, I remember some tests where lower temps caused less power draw on CPUs, even at otherwise identical settings. But not sure how much that would actually change in the long run considering the fan will also pull a bit and might be worn out earlier.
In theory the fans will wear out faster running full speed all the time. With some RGB setups the programs to control it can use a good bit of CPU overhead for animated effects if the controller doesn't store/process it locally.
Appreciate you guys being serious & actually replying with thought out comments. You guys are awesome 🙏🤘
For a video idea I would suggest take old systems and put in newer graphic cards (from Nvidia 10 series to 30) and enough ram to see how much the rest of the system bottlenecks the cards. To see which cards gives the optimum fps.
How old?
Cause my i5-3570K is clearly the limiting factor for the 1060 it's paired with.
the 30 series cards get bottlenecked by 8th gen intel and 3rd gen ryzen is some cases.... they are insane cards
I had a Q9300 back in the day, paired with a high end motherboard that supported DDR3-1600 and overclocked the snot out of it. That machine lasted me a good long time. Started with Crossfired Radeon 4870s ended with a 7870 before upgrading to a 4770k. Did the same thing to 4770k, fast ram and high OC, still running it today.
love the old tech reviews i recently built my first pc from scratch with i5 2600k 16gb ram on asrock p67 extreme 4(non pro) and geforce gt 710 2gb and havent had any issues with games or load times
Build your dream PC from when you were a teenager!
Funny seeing this now, when I finally found a second hand machine that is going to replace my i5-2300 after 10 years ^^
I7-920 overclock to 3.8 on a x58 sabretooth motherboard with 24 gigs of dominator DDR3 1866 and a Nvidia 1080 GPU will get anywhere from Low's of 89 frames to 120 frames per second on a 1440p Dell 32 inch 165 HZ refresh rate monitor in division 2. I know because I'm currently running it. People will enjoy it. I appreciate your video and enjoyed it thank you.
By the way the settings for division 2 would be mostly on high anything concerning shadows would be on low or medium.
The funny thing is its often not the 10+ year old CPU holding back most PCs. Its DDR3 & SATA 2. Otherwise you could play even the newest titles maxed out
finally, a review of my exact current main gaming desktop in 2021! awesome! "its an old piece of shit" oh dear..
“Don’t recommend you go out and buy this setup” Any real gamer has one or two of these boxes collecting dust in the closet or corner and don’t need to buy any of it. I’ve still got my first 80/486 DX2 66 in the closet for nostalgic reasons. Heck i’ve even got a ViC=20 and C=64 and 128 too!
I'm using a GTX 950M paired with an i5-6300HQ in my laptop to this day since like 2016 or so. It's old and weak as hell by today's standards, but holds up like a damn miracle and it's capable of more than I ever thought it would be, amazing stuff.
My son's currently gaming on an fx6300 which is 1 year older then he is. It does actually really well with an aftermarket cooler running it to a 4.3ghz OC. Considering I got it for free (except the 1050ti and 240ssd ) it's an insanely good gaming pc for the price
In 2021 a gtx 1050 ti costs more than $250 lol 😂😅
Yep i bought my 4 years ago for 150 lol still waiting dor 30 series stock.
@@cmdrhersin592 we got it here in india haha
still better off finding a 280X .it 25% ~ faster and it from 2013
@@hkuowwpw9557 Same here in the Philippines but damn they're just expensive.
And the Rx 580 8GB is around $500-$600
What about some extreme overclocking on some old hardware?
Not with that crappy G41 chipset 40-dollar-when-new garbo motherboard in there
@@Knaeckebrotsaege No, but think like 775 or 1366 xeons on like a rampage board.
I taught computer tech class and to show the history I took a PII-400 and had it booting from DOS 6/Win 3.1, 95, 98 and XP. Watching it load XP was painful. You never saw 3.1 load so fast.
Nice to see you review old stuff. Im still going on a 13yr old i7 920 system @ 3.5Ghz, 12GB RAM , GTX1060 6GB. I keep wanting to upgrade to a new rig but this old thing just plays everything I throw at it and with high settings. FC5, AC Odyssey, GR Wildlands, Fallout 4, even MSFS (with some sliders on Ultra) it just keeps going. I still wanna upgrade cos I want blistering performance but this thing will go another 20 years if I let it.
Playing on 120 fps "im on a frame jittery mess!"
Kidding me?
Your sitting there doing that for fun, Me sitting here actually suffering with an AMD Athlon 860K :(
Same With a gtx950 🤣
@@hamimsyamim2026 LMAO I bought my CPU for 25$ and then my Dumbass spent 200$ on my AMD RX570 8GB OC
I have two gaming pcs. One is old tech [c2q 9550/8gb(800mhz)/750 ti]and it can run games till 2018(most of 2018 titles) 1080p less than 60 fps medium settings. C2q definitely beast of its time.
This is a fantastic video! I still have my old PC running AMD Phenom II X6 with 16gb of DDR3, and it is still a perfectly capable home computer that can handle older games just fine plus any regular computing tasks.
That "continuous power supply" joke :D
Jay: It can run some titles!
Me: didnt it crash after everything?
This is 8 years ago... I remember the hype about the GTX 460s a long time ago, can't remember the year, the most powerful GPUs at the time were the GTX 290s and 480s...
I was coming back to PC gaming after my old Pentium Dual Core + Nvidia 7300GL burned up a couple years before...
Now here we are! Graphics have gone crazy at 4K resolutions, up to 360FPS, Freesync, Gsync, Ultrawides, consoles that actually can run 4K...
Just wow...
Currently in the dark side... playing on an Xbox.
I have multiple computers but the one I use all the time is an Asus M5A97 with an AMD FX6300 (replaced an Athlon II) with an RX570 4g DDR5 and I added an NVME Pcie3 card with 512g nvme drive (non booting, really makes a huge difference) 16g ram and run an Xplane 11 sim with decent settings and decent fps (20~). I also have an Asus ROG Crosshair X570, Ryzen 3800X, 16g DDR4, EVGA 2060 Super, Sabrent rocket pcie4 nvme 512g for my Xplane 11 with cockpit and physical controls and displays. The M5A97 is still acceptable for everything I need and, I have an M-disk DVD writer (the disks are proven to last 600 years+ based on US Navy tests)
I don’t know where your finding those GPU’s for those prices because in my area that is not the case.
I upgraded from my Phenom X4 last year. Was a good 9 years.
LOL I had to laugh at what you term "old hardware". I still do lots of gaming on a 30 year old Commodore Amiga! Now that's real retro gaming! :D
I’m doing a sleeper build in a case very similar to the one you have in this video. I would really enjoy seeing what you would do to that case to make it more compatible with new tech. It’s been quite the challenge for me, especially in terms of cooling.
I'd like to see more case mod videos if you're taking suggestions. Lol
That feeling when your system is only a few years younger than this one..
I am so glad I managed to buy a Rx580 before the "everything" went down. If I do manage to get something along the way, I will gift it to my older brother, he wants to build a PC for the first time as well.
Man I feel your pain... between the 'tinker' terms and 'not for cheap' on the ddr2 memory.
Got a 2009 build sitting in the closet, wanna revive it enough for Minecraft for my kids... but it only has 2x2gb ram. Same exact ram is still going for $90 new...