Trying To Game On A 20-Year-Old Office PC...
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- I impulse bought a 20 year old office PC, and then realised it really doesn't like gaming very much.
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“On the inside, it looks like a PC”
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Are you a Quadro 4000?
@@memenation5105 no he’s a Rx 6800 xt
Nah its a Laptop.
*opens Laptop*
Oh its a Pc.
@@itsR4v3n Amazing I was scammed then?
@Quantum get a GT 710 XD
PC almost literally catching fire from playing Half-Life... that's some nostalgia right there.
Really authentic experience.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Literally I had a friend back in the day who called me asking if it was normal for smoke to be coming out of his PC. It's exactly like the good old days!
I bet it would still play the syndicate 1993.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff boring for you gamers, but not for a 13 year old like me hehe
now replace the power supply and put a 3090 in it!
It would probably still perform better than eBay's "gaming" GT 710 PCs
It's PCI not PCI-E different interface
@@avinadadmendez4019 1 gb of DDR1 ram?
@@nomadic1816 ddr
That would be like giving cable's gun to deadpool, or like giving edith glasses to spidey.
That 01 next to "Intel" does not mean it's made in 2001 LOL, that's something to do with trademarks. The production date can be read on the long code in the line under the s-spec and production country. This particular chip was made in plant 7 (= in the Philippines) in 2003, week 30.
This chip and I are almost exactly the same age lmao.
yep Pentium 4 trademark goes from late 2000/2001
That's true.
Also, the SL6PN-model was commercially available on August 1, 2003, according to CPU-World.
This means that Dell was - perhaps as expected - one of the first to get this particular CPU to put it into their products.
@@DigitalJedi Hahaha! Wow, I am clearly a Noob.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff No your not, you just need to get better glasses
It can run Half Life, therefore a 1000$ gaming pc.
"But can it run Half-Life" :)
Aka: trying to run games on literally anyones father's pc
Ha can’t say that to my children. I have a 2700X and a 2070s, get wrecked kid. (just kidding about that last part)
My father had a 5950x and a 5900x with 128gb of ram. So unfortunately he’s beating me at the moment
@@trentonmeeuwsen739 2 cpus? Was that supposed to be the 5900xt?
I built my dads PC. Has a ryzen 7 2700, 16gb of ram, rtx 2060 super, and two Samsung ssds. In other words his is better than mine
Haha, I remember trying to play fallout 3 on my dad's pc back in 2011, my first pc in 2015 had a FX 8350, HD 7970 , 2nd was a i7 6700k , GTX 1070 and now I'm running a 5800x + RTX 3080
Steam version of Half Life has a different OpenGL renderer that is different than the 1998 WON version of the game. The old WON version had support for Software rendering as well as older Dx and OpenGL version, which probably would have ran a lot better on this machine. The Steam version's renderer is built more for modern computer GPU's.
Edit: Also the version of Half Life 2 that you ran has been updated multiple times by Valve to the 2007 Orange Box version of the Source engine, which is significantly more demanding than the older 2004 version of the game. Not that it would have handled the old version any better, but a Pentium 4 would have been well within specs of playing Half Life 2 when it came out.
Next video: "Putting a 3080 TI in a 20-year-old office pc..."
I had a athlon xp with sd ram, pci-e must have been brand new because I had no clue what that small slot was at the time, I think he should try it, run a 1x to 16x ribbon adapter with an old geezer cpu.
seriously what could possibly go wrong with that idea lol
@@raven4k998I dont think so the motherboard would detect the 3080ti like it didnt beforr
@@OmPrakash-pc1ec first stop doing drugs it making you weird I ask joking and asking a question what could go wrong not would the motherboard detect it cause on pci a 3080 would suck worse the a gt710 on pci-e it would be just as pointless so stop doing drugs it making you ask stupid things
@@raven4k998 fking hell man why are you so mad on this shit
I'd recommend getting Battlefield 2 for testing these older PC's. I had that exact pc back then and it played BF2 very well if I remember correctly.
Farcry 1 is also very good, i remember playing with geforce 5200FX, and it was a good experience
@@jack_3246 i don't remember any good experiences with the FX 5200, i hated that gpu
@@tyre1337 Well, i didn't have anything other back then, i didnt play half life 2, and for the games that did work for me it was a pretty cool experience.
I remember playing gothic 3 with turned off shadows and it was like 20-30 fps, didnt measure it, and up to 3 loads before game crashed.
@@tyre1337 everybody hated fx5200 back then but now retro community see it as cheap way to play dx8 games as they are much more common (also in PCI version but mostly in AGP) than previous gen high end cards and way cheaper.
For dx9....just terrible choice.
@@mikeycrackson Yeah, back in the day i had a MX4000 and it wouldn't open BF2 at all, it wouldn't even open BF Heroes. Thing was so bad i was envious of the FX 5200.
I remember LITERALLY CRYING while trying to play Half-Life 2 on my dad's PC at 10FPS during Christmas morning of 2004.
Not because it was running badly, but because it was Half-Life 2, and picking up the can and throwing it at the combine guard was the most amazing freaking thing I'd ever seen.
This was me in 2008 with the family computer, a 2001 dell. Juust barely ran HL2 Deathmatch on a Geforce 2.
@@FooPandaThis was me in 2015 with my 2001 Sony Vaio lmao
1:41 this old case has better air flow than mine lol.
@@Frank_Pods I can vouch, I have one.
Oof. 😁
@@EvilTurkeySlices same here... my main PC
Q: How's the airflow?
Dell: Oh, silly! Computers don't breathe!
😂
HP be like: puts one fan and no airflow in the pavilion line
also HP: puts one fan and no airflow in the bottom line gaming pc for omen
It's a crazy coincidence that my Grandad had a PC just like this when we were growing up. One of the only times I ever shared a PC gaming experience with him playing the old classic 'Outlaws', the other being him giving me driving advice on Test Drive Unlimited...
Bless him. He passed on Easter Sunday this year, never forget his words every time I overtake in that game.
Actually good cable management because that was a challenge back in the day lol I love how people say cable management is hard in certain newer cases, they should try any case pre-2000 lol
My case is pretty new and has loads of space in it but nowhere to put the mess of cables,though I did stupidly get a non modular power supply to try and save money
I remember being proud of my round (not ribbon) IDE cables for my CD-ROM/DVD-RW and HDDs. I never could find a non-ribbon floppy cable.
Rounded IDE cables were the shit. Until they weren’t, and were just shit.
@@MannyJazzcats classic move
@@emlyndewar lol fact
Something to keep in mind is that the current version of Half-Life 2 available on Steam has higher minimum system requirements than the original release.
Current minimum:
OS: Windows 7, Vista, XP
Processor: 1.7 Ghz
Memory: 512 MB RAM
Graphics: DirectX 8.1 level Graphics Card (requires support for SSE)
Storage: 6500 MB available space
The original printed on the back of the case on my copy of the original release:
OS: Windows 2000, XP, Me, 98
Processor: 1.2 Ghz
Memory: 256 MB RAM
Graphics: DirectX 7 level Graphics Card
Storage: 4,5 GB
Isn't that just the requirement to run the "current" version of steam itself? (Except that fact that it takes an older version to run under XP)
@@HappyBeezerStudios Not sure, could be, but that doesn't really change anything. You needed Steam back then too, but that version of Steam would in that case have used less system resources to run. So in either case the combo of Half-Life 2+Steam running in the background has higher system requirements today than it did back then, doesn't really matter if it's just one of them or both that are more demanding today.
@@HappyBeezerStudios No, the original 2004 HL2 was VERY different from the current major release, which is the 2013 Steampipe update, but there were major updates before that in 2006 with Episode 1 and 2007 with Episode 2. The original 2004 release of HL2 also came with the original Steam release, or "Steam 1.0", which was a dreadful buggy piece of garbage that replaced the older WON system run by Sierra. Steam predates HL2 by a couple of years, starting back in 2002ish when Valve wanted to bring the online component of their games in-house. So the first games were the HL1 franchise.
When HL2 Episode 1 was released in 2006, Valve forward ported the original HL2 game to the Ep1 engine. As the Ep1 engine wasn't that much of an improvement over the original Source engine HL2 ran on, the system requirements didn't go up that much. The only real major change here was that Ep1 dropped support for video cards below DirectX 8.0. The original Source engine HL2 ran on had some support for DirectX 6/7, and would run on cards that only supported it, like the Voodoo5 5500 or the Geforce 2 MX.
When Orange Box was released in 2007, it marked a major uptick in system requirements. All of the new visual features like normal mapping, detail texturing and increased shader detail drastically increased the system requirements of the game. Support for less than DirectX 8.1 was dropped, which killed off a number of Nvidia video cards from the Geforce 4 and older, as well as the FX series due to them having severe performance issues when running in DX9 mode.
The most recent big update was the Steampipe release in 2013, which is when Valve went cross platform with the game. This release is orders of magnitude more demanding than any of the prior updates because of the grossly inefficient method they used to make the Source engine cross platform, but this affected the original HL engine as well. Instead of having a single rendering API, it now has to go through a Direct X to OpenGL translation layer (at least on non-Windows machines) and runs on OpenGL libraries that are not at all tolerant of older hardware. If you have anything older than like a Radeon HD 4000 series or GTX 200 series, you're going to have a bad time.
So even if you could run the modern Source engine on ancient hardware, the performance is going to be FAR worse than older versions of the game. With each major update of the Source engine along the original Source engine lineage, HL2 was forward ported to avoid Valve having to maintain multiple branches of the engine. This has created many headaches with compatibility over the years because some engine features were lost between releases, and some backend stuff changed that broke mods, requiring ugly hacky workarounds.
The fact that a GT710 on a PCI-E to PCI adapter was a massive improvement says it all.
Not only that, but a GT 210 or even a 7300 GS would've been an improvement.
Hi! These performances with the PCI card at the end, give me the impression that the inboard graphic drivers weren't totally uninstalled, which in Windows XP is mandatory due to the way it manage memory, which will not only provoke slow down and over-process but also leads to some management drivers conflict, leading obviously to a blue screen.
When this game came out, it was pretty much designed to run on the Radeon 97/800 series and really was an fps killer. If I remember rightly I had an Athlon 3000+ running on an NF2 mobo combined with said Radeon 9800 and it was a pretty fun experience. Although admittedly that was high end back in that day!
Athlon. That’s a name I have not heard in a while!
Athlon 64 would still run modern stuff now
I just dumped that same case at my local e-waste centre yesterday.
Strangely enough, I won't. I have 2-3 of these old, early 2000's cases and they make for great budget build boxes. Even better is finding a few with similar parts and making a beefy boy in one of them. YEAAHHHH baby, 4 64GB hard drives!
@@Matrxmonky I stuck a b350, gtx 1060 and ryzen 2600 build in this box for my kid. He was tired of playing with a 'sleeper build' and wanted a case that was younger than him. :D
😅
@@Matrxmonky Same here, I plan to do a sleeper build with a good ol i5 4690k and GTX 1070ti.
I‘d build a PC in that case from the same decade so I don’t think it would really be a sleeper build. I‘d put something like a Core 2 Duo E6600, 2 or 4GB RAM and an 8800 GT in it and I’d also install Windows XP on it so it would be a retro gaming PC for games from early to late 2000s. I‘d put a Core 2 Quad Q6600 in it instead if the airflow of that Compaq case is good enough wich I don’t think it is.
Imagine trying to run Crysis on that thing.
It would literally go bye bye.
Haha!! Shame, it wouldn't stand a chance.
Crysis was a DX9/DX10 title, so it wouldn't even launch on the integrated graphics which is limited to DX7
LOL, the screen looks like it was cleaned with spit and a t-shirt.
2 frames per minute 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I like these kind of video's..... I have been messing around with computers for over 20 years. Its fun to see the old stuff and remember all the crap we use to have to do to get them running. And AOL lol I remember getting so many CD's in the mail for a Free Trial.
Love your vids man just recently started watching you but you are by far my favourite tech RUclips! keep up the good work bro
I actually love that you’re covering PC hardware from the era I first made the switch from console to PC gaming. So much nostalgia for these systems.
So how? How did you get Steam running on XP? That has been a huge issue for retro gamers with a Steam library
i thought the same...
Oh sorry I forgot to link the video: ruclips.net/video/6-FbdgMar7Q/видео.html
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Does it still use the older version?
Back in the day, even on a powerful PC, the opening sequence had stutter "wa-wake up Mr Free-freeman" etc.
Ahh, the nostalgia of changing graphic settings and hearing the audio buffer loop until the game sorts itself out.
Cool video, I love looking back at old PC's and hardware
Love your vids they always make me smile seeing old tech scream in pain trying to run games keep up the good work 😂
Dawid GT 710 Daddy Master: "On the inside it looks like a PC"
Me: No way! What an unexpected turn of events.
That’s basically my PC!! A 20 year old TRASH pc.
I'd send you a PCIe GPU, if there's a spot
Love the content keep up up the good work .
This brings back memories for me, and as I watched this video on my gaming pc with a RTX 2060 and Core i7, it really makes me thankful for what I have nowadays
Looking forward to the sequel where Dawid tries to get a 3090 to work in it.
As dated as this system is, there is definitely a soft spot in my heart for the days when you could go to the store and buy a complete computer package from an SI like Dell or Compaq. Something nostalgic about that old terrible computer and the accompanying CRT monitors and stuff.
Dell and compaq are OEMs not SI
Dawid, love the channel, especially the references and sarcasm. Comments like you know it's a gaming PC because it has a dragon on the case. Since I've had triple Channel memory configurations in older I7 builds, I actually have to wait for you to mention in some sarcastic way there's no dual channel config and if you don't I'm disappointed
Dawid is so awesome, im so happy ive watched for a long time.
Nice, that brings back memories 😃. Although my PC was a bit better than that... I think it was a 2.6GHz Pentium 4 with a Radeon 9800 Pro. Bought HL2 pretty much immediately when it was released (on 5 CDs!) and yeah, those specs gave me a pretty nice experience.
Also - I think there's a "2004 spec" Half-Life 2 install floating around on the interwebz you could try, I'm pretty sure it would perform better on this old beast. The current Steam version of HL2 has much higher system requirements than the original release version had.
This wasn't really an office pc, more low end consumer gear. Compaq's office series was called Deskpro.
I saw the thumbnail and clicked so fast because this was my family PC growing up! We had the AMD variant, same setup (although I only remember it having one optical drive along with the floppy). It may not like accelerated graphics, but it worked pretty well for Bejeweled 😅
Well than you for making this video. This is the first computer my parents owned that I learned about comps on.
7:21 The graphics in the chipset probably was overheating, the thermal paste they used on those motherboards was always questionable, and the heatsink they used was never really enough. I have an old Dell dimension 3000 with similar specs and it's integrated graphics ran a bit better after I strapped a fan to the chipset's heatsink.
for some reason now i really want to see an rtx on this computer with the pci adapter
oh no, you have re-created my childhood. Trying to play games on our home PC, sometimes working sometimes crashing but always with me crying.
I LOVE your sense of humor and accent dude.
Oh man, I wonder how would a sleeper PC build would look with this case.
I have this case! And i plan on doing a sleeper build!
@@glitchamation256 Ooh, keep us (or at least me) posted! I'd love to see how the build ended up.
look like a pc
Actually I also would like to see how a sleeper with this case would turn out. Aka the nothing to see here PC.
If I lived with the roommates this is what I would have so they wouldn't get any ideas about snatching my good PC.
It looks like a budget micro atx board will drop right in for some more fun.
Didn't even have AGP!!! A TRUE early 2000 PC would have AGP
I agree completely. I don't think this is a good representation for 2004.
More common than you think. Cheapo early 2000s office PC motherboards usually didn't bother with things like AGP, or sometimes even on board ethernet.
@@outtheredude you might be right but it's not a representation of who might be trying to play Half Life 2. Source: I'm 34. I played Half Life 2 in 2004... I think on either a Slot A dual 800MHZ P3 or an Athlon something maybe and a GeForce 4 Ti 4600. I have a feeling using a PCIE to PCI bridge was also a bad move here
@@outtheredude But this should be a gaming PC. He should use a Radeon graphic card from that era. Even custom water-cooling was a thing back then. There was even a company Vapochill that produced cases with a compressor to freeze the processor. There was a big gaming scene and I think he missed that point.
@@misinterpretedphysics Why would a PC geared towards office use need AGP? Lots of PCs used integrated graphics from the likes of Intel and Nvidia. Not everyone bought a high end 'gaming' PC, and on it's release, HL2 was a pretty demanding game. Many computers struggled to run it. Many PCs had problems running the original DOOM when it came out. My Sinclair ZX81 wouldn't play many games without a memory upgrade, nor would the 16K Atari 400 that replaced it. This problem is nothing new.
So nostalgic! These specs are a lot like the computer I bought for my freshman year of college except mine was a Gateway.
this is actually helpful because my friend got his 2004 dell pc from his grandparents recently
When you're benchmarking measurement goes from FPS to FPM. lol
When performance turns around and you measure in SPF (seconds per frame)
AOL still has around 4 million paying customers....
Oh no way! Do you just need to make an account to use it?
@@DawidDoesTechStuff they have free email accounts, but the dial up internet over a 56k modem still works, but isnt free, its still like 25 bucks a month. Maybe gaming over 56k could be sucky to try.
Oh man RUclips suggested me the perfect video.I had this PC,it lasted until 7 years ago more or less (I had it since 2006) and broke because the CPU,for some unkown reason,decided to burn.I kept some of his pieces,even his "amazing" PATA HDD 12GB and his PCI card.
It was my first PC ever and I was so attached to it, Duke Nukem 3D was my main game because how well it runs.I was selling it at 15$ for PC-newbies but it broke while I was trying to turn it on before selling... RIP to this retro beast.
I had a very similar hand-me-down PC in high school. It was a Dell with an Intel Celeron CPU, 512MB of DDR, Intel graphics, and no AGP slot. I eventually upgraded to 2GB of RAM and installed a PCI Geforce FX 5200. Those upgrades helped me play a bit of WoW :) .
Teachers: i will take your entire stock.
Oof yeah seriously.
"Educational PC's" always seems to be the absolute worst most bottom of the barrel crap ever.
Does no one not a single person that works at any learning institution know how to build a decent PC or at least buy prebuilt ones of decent quality whatsoever?! Won't someone think of the children.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu nah as long as microsoft office 2003 works. Schools will just buy those used PC for a low price
@@YYLiow
I mean I guess it's fine for what it is, problem is it ain't much.
@@YYLiow when I was in high school starting in 2004, we were stuck with garbage lik this with only a geforce 2/3 era GPU running CAD applications that could use up to the 6000 series in VRAM/texture fill. My homie's sempron e-machine with an extra 512mb of ram (768mb total!) and a radeon 9600 pro in the AGP slot (IT HAD AN AGP SLOT!) absolutely pissed on the PCs at school, and it was already slow as balls for the time. The PCs we were stuck trying to "learn" on (if you could call the experience we were having learning, as we learned more about how to fix and optimize PCs than how to do CAD work) were abysmal to the point that a lot of students just gave up, studied at home to pass the final test (the only testing in the whole class), and then used the time they lost at home in class playing quake 3 and shit which could run on a geforce 2 or 3 era card. The kids with the Geforce 3s were also the ones with the bigger CRT monitors that could do EITHER a higher resolution up to 1600x1200, OR 1280x960 at 75hz! This made them the best PCs to do CAD work on, and capable of pushing higher FPS than the others such that they could actually use that 75hz refresh rate. Still wasn't anything compared to what I had at home performance wise, but at least the monitors had decent resolution and refresh. They didn't look as good as my trinitron did, but being able to play at 75hz both at home and at school was an experience for sure, for the time. By the time I'd left high school they were getting rid of all those awesome old CRTs and replacing them with LCDs that could only do 60hz and used TN panels. They looked like hot garbage but it's what dell sold them for their tech upgrade for the whole campus. Around the same time Jobs' son had just graduated a year ahead of me, so this upgrade was badly needed, since Jobs had donated a couple labs worth of Macs, which revealed just how slow everything else on campus really was by that point. Think 5-7 year old PCs in some classrooms, in an era where 1-2 years was sometimes 2 to 4 times the performance increase in new hardware releasing in that time
@@TheOriginalFaxon For me my school PC was better it had Windows XP on it but no discrete GPU. Those CRT monitors probably run at 720p. My home PC was only a Windows 98 with no internet connections. Had to rent CD Video games to play. Only my first PC aka is a laptop i think was a third hand in high school.
half life is a verry vibe game the feeling it gives are just amazing
I played it on an Athlon XP 2400+ with a Geforce FX 5200 256mb capped by an AGP 4X slot. It was a great experience. Crt 17 flat screen, details were not maxed out, but boy was it fun.
Another amazing weekly video from dawid
Hmm never lagged back then in H2, alltho I had a 2.4k PC in ~2004...
Now here's what I would like to see. Can a linux install breathe new gaming life into this old machine? .....maybe with at least some kind of old gpu to be slightly better than the integrated
That was very nostalgic for me thank you
Watching this on a potato of my own with a C2Q6600 and your favorite dGPU ever, the GT710.
Which was a genuine upgrade because this thing otherwise has a similar IGP as your potato.
Also that is easily the cleanest 20 year old computer I have ever seen in my life. You just opened a time capsule.
I don't know which is more impressive. How clean that beauty is, or that it still works (capacitor plague).
I love these terrible PC videos. I'd love to see some sort of collab with timmyjoe, where you both try to find the worst local PC and see if they could game. Since we are all Canadian here, the prices would be pretty similar.
Do "-dxlevel 80" for HL2, also u forgot the link to the Steam XP install video
For the integrated I'd even try -dxlevel 70, as the chip isn't realy DX8 capable either.
@@HappyBeezerStudios pretty sure dx7 doesnt work with the steam version of Source Games anymore, for that u would have to go with a Disc version, where u could also go for DX60
i used to rock a intergrated GeForce 8200 and -dxlevel 80 was a godsent back then, over 100 fps on relatively good settings, made me feel like a bigbrain
@@fem_aya with 60 I'd might even throw my old GeForce 3 at it
@@HappyBeezerStudios evem with a Geforce 2, cs:s is playable (dont know which directX version he was using in the video though) so go for it :^)
Also thank you for putting the GT 730 in the adapter. I suspect the PCI slot bottlenecked it a little, but I suspect the issue is with the single core CPU & the memory speed.
dawid! Love your videos! Since i can tell you LOVE diagnosing and STRUGGLING with older gaming pcs, you should try the Dell 4600 with Pentium 4 and AGP Nvidia 6200. Old PC from 2002, but with upgraded AGP GPUs i could run crysis at 30fps 768p lmao. Just an idea, no one else plays with AGP cards anymore!
Dawid I feel weird knowing that I’m older than you and still enjoy your content so much
Hey Dawid, I've got an old gt 620 and an unknown pci ati radeon card that are of no use to me, but I'd love to send them to you for whatever purpose, if you would like, let me know.
Wow! that was my exact same model of my very first PC i bought myself. Blast from the past.
Well there’s a throwback PC! I remember selling these things back in my Staples days.
Back then, when the hardware wasnt totally worn out and new, and halflife 2 wasnt patched to no end for newer hardware, it probably ran OK, but now? nahh
Halflife 2 never ran "ok" on intigrated graphics back in the day. Even though it was well optimized at release, you would have been lucky to get anywhere near playable frame rates without a dedicated graphics card so in my opinion testing it out on an "office PC" is relativly useless if you are trying to show what it was like to play it when it first came out. I was using an Nvidia 6600GT GPU and Athlon 3000+ CPU when I first played it a few months after release and remember it running pretty well.
The children of the early 1990s/2000s: We want to game on a PC
The parent: We have a PC at home
The PC at home = The PC in this video.
you're just a kid yourself and have no clue. A pentium computer in the 90s was an unaffordable luxury. Pentium 4 was a gaming beast at least till 2009.
@@ufoisback5088 My frist PC was a toshiba tecra 486. My first desktop was a P3 1ghz with 512 cache and a TNT GPU. Apperently, you are the type that ruins humor by applying logic. Is your life boring?
Gaming beast or not, it doesn't mean a thing if you can't play the game. Do you stand in your front yard yelling at little kids to get off your linksys wireless "G" wifi?
The point of the joke was, even "high end" hardware of the era struggled. Kids TODAY are spoiled with the amount of affordable PCs... the lowest end of which can still play e-sports titles. They also have the luxury of having game developers optimize to the LOWEST market spec. Rocket League, League of legends, CS-GO and Overwatch run on potatoes.
The good old days. I remember playing my first Online PVP game Team Fortress on dial-up using a Compaq 566 megahertz cpu and default igpu and memory that came with it back in 1999 until i popped in a GT gpu agp.
OMG!! I still remember how long it takes to load de_dust way back 2001 playing CS. it's now more than 20yrs and people are still playing the game.
A Raspberry Pi can run Quake 2 better lol.
20 years later.
@@DeadmonarchCoilfang *18 years later, that makes it more impressive. (RPi 4 launched in 2019)
@@RandomRider570 If you had this Compaq back when it was new, and compared it to home computers from 18-20 years before that, you would find a much, much bigger difference. Early to mid '80s, the days of 8 bit computers, the start of the 16 bit era. Speeds measured in single digit MHz, RAM measured in KB, floppy disks that were actually floppy, 1 MB hard drives that cost more than a new fitted kitchen, if they were even available for your system. And mice were something that ate cheese and squeaked. 😁
you need to get a hl2 disc version (i runs way way better) !!!
Same with HL1 - he tried running the "Source" version, which is far more demanding.
Oh, and forget about any resolutions above 1024x768 - this was gonna be connected to a CRT monitor.
I did think that. Wish I still had all my old game disks.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff HL2 shipped with different DX versions, I'm pretty sure DX8 would've been more appropriate as DX9 was only a couple years old at that point. Make a part 2, this PC will be fine running 90s games as it's GPU is on par with a Rage 128.
Dear god, the lack of AGP port on that mobo! hahaha! Though i'm still less impressed that 20 years ago a 2.5ghz cpu existed, we haven't really come very far since. I'd be much happier with a 10ghz single core pc today!
That CPU is from 2002, the fastest Pentium 4 that year was 3.06GHz
But look at how many cores/threads have we gained. Not to mention the massive improvement in energy-efficiency thanks to two decades of evolution in manufacturing process.
That was some pretty decent cable management for all those molex connections.
Also, considering the age, it seemed fairly clean and tidy.
You know it's an awful PC when Half-life 2 is considered the most insane thing it can run.
No, the computer wasn't awful when it was released. Like many PCs, then as now, it wasn't designed for hardcore gaming. HL2 was a demanding game at the time of release, and lots of low or mid range PCs would struggle to run it well.
Put an ssd, hyper 212 tower cooler and a voodoo3 card in there
Fuck that, take it to the nearest dump!
I don't think CM supports a socket, that old. :)
@@sirfairplay9153 Why dump it if it still works? It will probably run 32 bit Windows 10 well enough, or a Linux distro. It could certainly cope with email, basic internet use or simple 'office' tasks. Older, pre 2000 games will run nicely on a PCI graphics card under Win 98 or XP... without the need to find a Steam version.
YOOOOOO NEW DAWID LETS GOOOOO
The reason it doesn't have an AGP slot is because of the iGPU. Old mobos had either AGP or iGPU but not both.
Well, surely this PC is not 20-year-old, the CPU which is inside it is from August 2002 and I found an old HP article from 13th September 2003 about this exact model release date, but I understand if 20-year-old is just a nice way to put in, because it is still an pretty old PC.
He is close enough that I don’t think anyone will mind, it isn’t like he is clickbaiting.
I'm still trying to find who asked
Who's this nause?
@@finnbarber1488 yep it isn't a clickbait because it's still an old PC, what I said - it's just a nice way to put in
I had a Compaq from this era (mine was a 2003) and I was just jazzed I finally had a system that could handle the Infinity Engine lol. I wish I had known more about PC hardware at the time, enough to either build myself or fix my store-bought machine. There were some great games back then.
lol, this was very amusing! Brings me back to when I was young
I'm so old I used to put a size appropriate heatsink-fan with thermal paste glued to the graphics chip. It helped.
Would be interesting to see how much better it runs with a clean, debloated Windows install and updated drivers.
The first computer I ever upgraded was pretty similar to this, but it had a 2.53Ghz Northwood P4 and 512mb of RAM. I added another 512mb and a PCI Radeon 9250, and I turned that Dimension 2400 into a beast. It could truck through Half Life 2 and Quake 4 (after a couple shader hacks because everything was green with the default shaders)
love the older pc cases :D
I used to play games on a shity office pc made by Compaq when I was younger, it looks just like I remember it. Everything ran awful and you had to play everthink at like the tiniest resolution
I had this PC. Nostalgia hitting hard
loved the "future" and "not the future" bits, made me laugh
Whenever you interact with old hardware boy Dawid shines from your eyes with great excitement and its wonderful :)
Yes Anna, it brings back memories to me too.😍
I like your reaction to onboard graphics. Back in the day we were thrilled when we got it. When you had a graphics card it was gonna be 4 colour CGA or 16 colour EGA, both at 320x200, but if it were on board, you were guaranteed at least 256 colour VGA at 640x480, possibly even SVGA with it's magical 16-bit graphics and screen resolutions not too far from today's.
...of course, if someone brought me a computer with onboard now I'd tell 'em where to shove it.
finally a video i can relate too
This is the pc my family had when I was young, I remember it always sounded like a jet about to take off lol
Water cooling on the chipset!!!! Let's go!
For the whole summer of 2000 I was stuck with a Pentium 3 with integrated graphics (Intel 810 chipset, I think). So, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. I ended up playing Imperium Galactica 2 that entire summer. Great game, I played the snot out of it. Ah, good times!
I had this system back when I was like 15, it was my first own computer rather than just having a family computer.
Nice video; I just think that when playing around with a PC of this era, you should use a fitting monitor, at least with 4:3 aspect ratio, if not a CRT.
I found one of these at our office and I am planning on making a sleeper out of it. Got a motherboard donated, but not sure if I fried it because it doesn't have standoffs, just raised parts of the case
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I bought one of those compaqs for my mom as a christmas present back then. And yes i used to use the cd/dvd combo to pirate music.