Thanks this is useful info. I have same oven but had nothing but PF show on display. It disappeared with nothing on display at all now. Light still works in oven and beeps when I hit key pad but I cant start oven. Any advice? Thx
I'll post a new video to the channel to respond in more depth. I had to fix the control panel on it also after what seems like a lightning strike cooked a couple parts a bit. It could of just been heat wear overtime also. You probably have a keypad issue but only a partial failure which is why you're still getting response from some buttons but not the Start or maybe others.
Actually I'm nearly certain it's your keypad that just went out on certain buttons. You'll still probably get something out of the new video too. I should have it posted in a few hours.
Try some penetrating fluid in the tracks and lightly tap the tracks with something that won't damage the paint. You can use a rubber mallet too but thumb pressure should be enough to pry it up. It looks so easy because it wasn't fully in when I re-did it for demonstration.
Just finished working on my oven - similar but has convection bake also. The tracks on both sides slide into the panel. There is a little screw near the bottom of the track. I removed it and removed both tracks. When you remove the tracks, you will find 2 little screws holding the control panel. Once you remove them, the control panel will slide out. I dont know why this is different but that is the way mine comes off. By the way, I only cleaned the keypad ribbon cable with electrical contact cleaner and the keypad and oven is working again.
There are 2 screws that attach the cover to keep it from moving: 1 on each top/side/outside ... very small Phillips that must be removed before you can pop the panel up.
@@frankmallory6584, this step is overlooked in the video and I damaged mine trying to get it out. The trim rails down the sides are hiding these screws. There are also two screws holding the side trim pieces on that need to be taken out.
The whirlpool parts are discontinued for my oven. I found a company online that manufactures the panel and can determine if it is the key pad or control panel. I am considering purchasing the key pad membrane and installing it myself.
I've been unable to find any manufacturers for it. Please post the links to the company. I gave up on the oven after the keypad went out again from what I could tell.
I have what appears to be the same oven and starting a few days ago I can no longer increase the oven temperature on the display, I didn't get any error messages and I can still turn it down from 350 degrees Fahrenheit but I can't increase it. Is that definitely the control board malfunctioning? Or could it be something else possibly?
Sounds like the keypad behind the up button versus it being a control panel issue. It's an expensive guess to swap it and see but I'll almost positive that's it, can't see how the control panel would only be affecting one button.
I got mine to work by cleaning the the keypad ribbon cable with electrical contact cleaner and both keypad and oven are back working. If problem returns, I will then replace keypad next.
Pull out off the cabinet towards you some and then lift.. If it won't pull off then it is still screwed in somewhere or someone used an adhesive in which case you can pry with a thin flat but hard plastic piece (pry bar).
@0:48 I have the exact same oven and I need to replace something in there and I can not get the front panel to budge like you show in your video. Any tips?
If it doesn't show up on this list then just Google 'Whirlpool Error Code list' - www.searspartsdirect.com/range-repair/error-codes/whirlpool-range-error-codes.html
It's a communication error so try cleaning where the keypad connects into the circuit board with this: amzn.to/3fCrNYe If that doesn't work then yes the keypad needs replacing most likely. (Make sure the place on the circuit board it connects to is not loose feeling: which would need to be soldered.)
Won't be about to replace the board though unless you get lucky on a used one, it's discontinued. My newest video as of now goes into basic control panel troubleshooting.
I hope someone can help me...I am removing the control board connections but I am having a very hard time removing the two black connections near the power relay. I see there are plastic posts that go through the control board but I cannot figure out how to remove them. Any ideas are appreciated.
You have to 'shimmy' them side to side slowly to incrementally release it. I'd try gripping it with your thumb and forefinger and it'll take a fair amount of grip strength at first. If you have something that will act as a plastic pry bar - this might help too. Just be sure not to stress things too much.
I find this to be very useful at prying up connectors - amzn.to/3JQTMNQ Just be careful to not put angular stress on the base pins because it can damage the solder joints that hold them in place and require re-soldering.
Thank you for the video. The Key Pad (8300427) for my Whirlpool RBD245PDB12 oven is no longer available. It beeps on its own. The oven is 19 years old. Unless you have another suggestion Mr. Ficks, I'm going to have to replace the entire oven. Any ideas?
Hmmm..if it has the same ribbon (and ribbon width) a newer model keypad might work enough to keep it going. The newer keypad might not have full functionality but if you can turn it on and off it might be worth it. Most likely you'll have to buy a new oven, sorry. I haven't tried what I'm suggesting but feel if the ribbon matches you have a good chance. You could return it if not.
If it doesn't show up on this list then just Google 'Whirlpool Error Code list' - www.searspartsdirect.com/range-repair/error-codes/whirlpool-range-error-codes.html
I have a whirlpool range model # GFG461LVQ2 temp sensor was not working properly, so I replaced it. Now oven will not work..Message says feature not available when trying to turn on oven. Help please.
Sorry Carrie didn't get a notification for your comment. I suspect you've moved on with that oven but if not then it sounds like a loose cable/connector to me... Or something got damaged during your repair.
I have the same oven. All the lights on the panel are out. But if I push the buttons I hear beeps. Do you think I need to do the same thing you did or is it something else?
You could try checking the connections and seeing if they are super dusty / etc and clean them and try again. It does sound like one of the pathways is broken though so most likely you will have to replace the keypad.
Sorry for the late reply. If anyone is having this issue and it's just the keypad not showing display - try cleaning the ribbon and connector with electronic cleaning spray.
Hi, I have an exact same oven. Some keys beep when pressed, but some don’t. The screen is completely blank. First, what do I need to get into diagnostic mode while the display is blank? I wonder how any error codes would show up on a blank display. Also, is the blank display still caused by defective keypad or I need to replace the control board??? Please let me know. Desperate:-\
@@mrficks1838 Thanks for the reply. The display is blank. Isn’t the control board I need to fix first? The touchpad is there to change displays, but I don’t get display at all when power is turned on in the first place. I am getting conflicting advice on this. Repair website says I need to fix the board first. Now I am confused 😢
It makes sense to me that some of the buttons would still respond. The pathways for the LEDs on the keypad ribbon that connect to the board have probably been damaged/worn out.
@@mrficks1838 Thanks for your feedback. Repair sites recommended me to send the control board because the screen is completely blank. They argue when power is turned on, the screen should display something even with a completely defective keypad. The power to displaying LED is from the control board initially, not keypad, they argue. Now a keypad or control board is about $200 each. I don’t want to spend $400 to fix my screen :-\ A little too much. Maybe that is my only option. Fixing both :-\
Whirlpool Keypad found here: goo.gl/MiesRd
FYI it's no longer available anywhere I know of.
Thanks for making this video. The information you provided is helpful. I didn't know the panel lifts up and out.
You're welcome. Thanks for the nice comment.
Thanks this is useful info. I have same oven but had nothing but PF show on display. It disappeared with nothing on display at all now. Light still works in oven and beeps when I hit key pad but I cant start oven. Any advice? Thx
I'll post a new video to the channel to respond in more depth.
I had to fix the control panel on it also after what seems like a lightning strike cooked a couple parts a bit. It could of just been heat wear overtime also. You probably have a keypad issue but only a partial failure which is why you're still getting response from some buttons but not the Start or maybe others.
Actually I'm nearly certain it's your keypad that just went out on certain buttons. You'll still probably get something out of the new video too. I should have it posted in a few hours.
@@mrficks1838 excellent, thx!
@@mrficks1838 Hey my oven came back on again. It showed code E6 F2 which is Cancel key drive open? sounds like the cancel button fore sure
That code is likely damage to the ribbon that connects the keypad to the control panel. Sorry I had stuff come up.. I'm still editing the video.
How do you remove the front cover so easy? Mine won’t come off? Any suggestions?
Try some penetrating fluid in the tracks and lightly tap the tracks with something that won't damage the paint. You can use a rubber mallet too but thumb pressure should be enough to pry it up. It looks so easy because it wasn't fully in when I re-did it for demonstration.
Just finished working on my oven - similar but has convection bake also. The tracks on both sides slide into the panel. There is a little screw near the bottom of the track. I removed it and removed both tracks. When you remove the tracks, you will find 2 little screws holding the control panel. Once you remove them, the control panel will slide out. I dont know why this is different but that is the way mine comes off. By the way, I only cleaned the keypad ribbon cable with electrical contact cleaner and the keypad and oven is working again.
There are 2 screws that attach the cover to keep it from moving: 1 on each top/side/outside ... very small Phillips that must be removed before you can pop the panel up.
@@frankmallory6584, this step is overlooked in the video and I damaged mine trying to get it out. The trim rails down the sides are hiding these screws. There are also two screws holding the side trim pieces on that need to be taken out.
The whirlpool parts are discontinued for my oven. I found a company online that manufactures the panel and can determine if it is the key pad or control panel. I am considering purchasing the key pad membrane and installing it myself.
I've been unable to find any manufacturers for it. Please post the links to the company. I gave up on the oven after the keypad went out again from what I could tell.
I have what appears to be the same oven and starting a few days ago I can no longer increase the oven temperature on the display, I didn't get any error messages and I can still turn it down from 350 degrees Fahrenheit but I can't increase it. Is that definitely the control board malfunctioning? Or could it be something else possibly?
Sounds like the keypad behind the up button versus it being a control panel issue. It's an expensive guess to swap it and see but I'll almost positive that's it, can't see how the control panel would only be affecting one button.
@@mrficks1838 Thanks, I appreciate it.
@@mrficks1838 I have the exact opposite problem. The down button will not work on mine! Did you find a quick fix for this?
@@tammyj.9152 - I apologize.. RUclips doesn't notify me of replies within an initial comment.
I have not found a fix for one button yet.
Mine doesn't just lift out. Had to take 2 side pieces off, only one screw near bottom on each. Then remove a hidden screw on each side of the panel.
Thanks for the info.
I got mine to work by cleaning the the keypad ribbon cable with electrical contact cleaner and both keypad and oven are back working. If problem returns, I will then replace keypad next.
Awesome. Thanks for the tip!
Im gonna try that first. The keypad works for me just not the display. Thanks great video
Thank you. Easy to follow video
I am unable to remove the top panel. I removed the 4 screws under the panel but it will not budge. Any suggestions
Pull out off the cabinet towards you some and then lift.. If it won't pull off then it is still screwed in somewhere or someone used an adhesive in which case you can pry with a thin flat but hard plastic piece (pry bar).
@0:48 I have the exact same oven and I need to replace something in there and I can not get the front panel to budge like you show in your video. Any tips?
Check if there's screws hiding on the legs at the bottom behind the side brackets.
How and where did you find the document that maps the error code to the explanation?
If it doesn't show up on this list then just Google 'Whirlpool Error Code list' - www.searspartsdirect.com/range-repair/error-codes/whirlpool-range-error-codes.html
I have a Samsung stove getting code C-F2 that’s means keypad replaced?
It's a communication error so try cleaning where the keypad connects into the circuit board with this: amzn.to/3fCrNYe
If that doesn't work then yes the keypad needs replacing most likely. (Make sure the place on the circuit board it connects to is not loose feeling: which would need to be soldered.)
Got the same oven with the same code. The light works times ect but when i hit atart oven it doesnt work. Should i replace that board? Thanks alot
If that's the only button that doesn't work then it's probably not the keypad. Might be the heating element.
Won't be about to replace the board though unless you get lucky on a used one, it's discontinued. My newest video as of now goes into basic control panel troubleshooting.
I hope someone can help me...I am removing the control board connections but I am having a very hard time removing the two black connections near the power relay. I see there are plastic posts that go through the control board but I cannot figure out how to remove them. Any ideas are appreciated.
You have to 'shimmy' them side to side slowly to incrementally release it. I'd try gripping it with your thumb and forefinger and it'll take a fair amount of grip strength at first. If you have something that will act as a plastic pry bar - this might help too. Just be sure not to stress things too much.
I find this to be very useful at prying up connectors - amzn.to/3JQTMNQ
Just be careful to not put angular stress on the base pins because it can damage the solder joints that hold them in place and require re-soldering.
Thank you for the video. The Key Pad (8300427) for my Whirlpool RBD245PDB12 oven is no longer available. It beeps on its own. The oven is 19 years old. Unless you have another suggestion Mr. Ficks, I'm going to have to replace the entire oven. Any ideas?
Hmmm..if it has the same ribbon (and ribbon width) a newer model keypad might work enough to keep it going. The newer keypad might not have full functionality but if you can turn it on and off it might be worth it.
Most likely you'll have to buy a new oven, sorry. I haven't tried what I'm suggesting but feel if the ribbon matches you have a good chance. You could return it if not.
Where did you find the sheet with the error codes listed? The error code on my oven didn't show up on your part of the list. Thanks in advance!
If it doesn't show up on this list then just Google 'Whirlpool Error Code list' - www.searspartsdirect.com/range-repair/error-codes/whirlpool-range-error-codes.html
Would you know where the fuse for the control board ? I have same wall oven as you Model PLEB30T9FCC Frigidaire
The thermal fuse that I replaced can be found here: amzn.to/3jZ5DME
@@mrficks1838 Thanks but that would only control heat on the elements not control board lights
I don't know then. There's none I can see on or near the board.
How can I get that book with all the error codes
Here is the link for the codes: www.searspartsdirect.com/diy/error-codes/range-repair/1234574/whirlpool-range/1198
thanks for the info
You're very welcome.
I have a whirlpool range model # GFG461LVQ2 temp sensor was not working properly, so I replaced it. Now oven will not work..Message says feature not available when trying to turn on oven. Help please.
Sorry Carrie didn't get a notification for your comment. I suspect you've moved on with that oven but if not then it sounds like a loose cable/connector to me... Or something got damaged during your repair.
I have the same oven. All the lights on the panel are out. But if I push the buttons I hear beeps. Do you think I need to do the same thing you did or is it something else?
You could try checking the connections and seeing if they are super dusty / etc and clean them and try again. It does sound like one of the pathways is broken though so most likely you will have to replace the keypad.
@@mrficks1838 Thanks I'll try that
@@ej3246 Hi, EJ, I have the same problem as yours. Have you cleaned the connection and it works now? Or you had to replace the keypad???
@@jacobkowski7705 I ended up finding exactly the same oven on offerup and just replaced the panel
@@ej3246 What is 'offerup?'
Hi I have the same one but has no power
Sorry for the late reply. If anyone is having this issue and it's just the keypad not showing display - try cleaning the ribbon and connector with electronic cleaning spray.
Hi, I have an exact same oven. Some keys beep when pressed, but some don’t. The screen is completely blank. First, what do I need to get into diagnostic mode while the display is blank? I wonder how any error codes would show up on a blank display.
Also, is the blank display still caused by defective keypad or I need to replace the control board??? Please let me know. Desperate:-\
Yes you'll need to replace the keypad. Sorry hadn't checked comments until now.
@@mrficks1838 Thanks for the reply.
The display is blank. Isn’t the control board I need to fix first? The touchpad is there to change displays, but I don’t get display at all when power is turned on in the first place. I am getting conflicting advice on this. Repair website says I need to fix the board first. Now I am confused 😢
You'd see some activity on the keypad LED's in my opinion if it was only the control board. I think it's the keypad.
It makes sense to me that some of the buttons would still respond. The pathways for the LEDs on the keypad ribbon that connect to the board have probably been damaged/worn out.
@@mrficks1838 Thanks for your feedback. Repair sites recommended me to send the control board because the screen is completely blank. They argue when power is turned on, the screen should display something even with a completely defective keypad. The power to displaying LED is from the control board initially, not keypad, they argue.
Now a keypad or control board is about $200 each. I don’t want to spend $400 to fix my screen :-\ A little too much. Maybe that is my only option. Fixing both :-\