Union Atlas 2023 Binding Review vs Atlas Pro & Atlas FC (no changes for 2024)
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
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0:00 - Intro
0:56 - How I Tested Them
1:50 - Summary
3:05 - Weight
3:27 - Highback Flex
4:51 - Flex Underfoot
5:37 - Turn Initiation/Response
7:04 - Shock Absorption & Dampness
8:21 - Boot Support
9:31 - Ratchets
10:01 - Adjustability
11:47 - About The Camber Disc
13:01 - Conclusion Спорт
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Love these in-depth comparisons between all the models!
I'm mostly on groomers right now but was looking for an all-mountain/freeride do-it-all kind of setup. I currently ride a GNU Money 152 with Vans Aura Pro size 8. I'm having trouble deciding between the Force, Atlas, and Stratas. Thanks!
Many thanks I would go either Force or Strata (my favorite for the Money) because you don't need much binding.
thanks for the great review - very informative! i was thinking about to go for the atlas pro or the normal atlas. I am looking for a "powder binding" for my Jones Flagship. I dont go for big jumps. Only riding in powder or next to the prepared slope (or in the forest next to the slopes). So the focus is definitly more riding then jumping. The price difference is really crazy between the normal atlas and the pro and thats what makes me thiking. Whats your recommdation? Is the difference really big between the pro and the normal atlas (except the price)?
You can't really go wrong with the Atlas. Especially if you aren't always riding in clean conditions. I would only go Atlas pro if you are willing to compromise a smoother ride in all conditions for more response.
I have a yes hybrid( i love) and capita a kazu(haven't ridden yet). I currently ride stratas but thought I might want something a little stiffer for the kazu or that I can use for both. I'm between the atlas and the katanas. Which would you recommend as a single binding for both. Or should I stick with the stratas? Thanks!
The Kazu will be a nice compliment to the Hybrid. Very different ride. The Atlas will work really well with the Kazu and the Hybrid. So would the Katana's. They are similar in a lot of ways. I think the Katana has more versatility because of the adjustable ankle strap angles to get more or less response. You also have an equally damp but more shock absorbent ride compared to the Atlas. You do have a more reliable binding with the Atlas (less parts) so it really comes down to which one calls to you. I personally ride the Atlas but I would have a very beautiful life if I was using the Katana. That is an excellent binding. I'm thinking Strata and Katana on the Hybrid just cuz it likes a more responsive binding. So Strata on the Kazu but the Atlas and Katana would work really well with the Kazu too.
Thanks for the review, I have the 21-22 Atlas and ordered the 22-23 Atlas Pro for a new board. Do you see any problems with the forward lean adjuster on the new models ?
Sorry I didn't really get to into that on the vid. Check the review on the site. I say I don't like the new FLAD as much as the old one and I'm not sure about long term reliability. I think it should be ok if you set it and forget it. However if you are constantly changing your forward lean I like the older FLAD better.
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the info
Great feedback on the difference between the models.
I'm considering grabbing the base model Atlas, but I would also love a second opinion. I ride a Yes Typo 152 and Thirtytwo TM-Three boot. I am definitely an all-mountain rider who enjoys groomers and being playful on and off-piste, going off-piste when conditions allow for it, and powder tree lines when possible. I can charge and bomb hills when needed, but that is not the priority. Any thoughts on whether the Atlas is the binding for someone that only wants one binding? Or other recommendations? Thanks for the work that goes into these reviews.
Many thanks. I would not go Atlas Pro or FC. I think you would be more than fine with the Atlas. That is what I ride and I prefer it over the two higher end models. Mainly because it handles uneven snow so much better. I think you could easily go with the Union Force or Force Classic if you want a little less chatter absorption/dampness but better shock absorption.
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks for the precise reply. The Atlas is probably the go. I thought about the Union Force, but your comment about the Force having less chatter absorption is the opposite of what I would want or need. I live in Australia and the snow here is quite often absolutely rubbish and groomers don't stay nice for very long.
Amazing review man👍🏻, I want to ask u somathing, I’ve got the old 2021 atlas and this year I want to add the new Rome Katana cause I’ve seen lots of review where they said that they are amazing , so do you think is worth it or they are both the same?
Thanks! No that would be a great 2 binding quiver. They have some similarities like a responsive base plate and softer high back but a lot of differences too. I personally love both bindings so give it a go to see which one works for you better.
Hello, thanks you very much for that great work and review ! I have an old Nitro Suprateam 156 from 2006 and I want to change the bindings : I have been snowboarding for 30 years and it's for carving on ski slopes, speed and all-moutain/freeride sessions (I have another board for freestyle sessions) and I still don't know what to choose beteween the Atlas (around 250 euros) and the Force (arounds 205 euros at the moment in french shops) ?! Thank you in advance and congrats for the video 🙂
Many thanks! I would get the Atlas if you want a more damp ride that holds better on a carve. I'd get the Force if you want more shock absorption. The Force is Foam and the Atlas is more rubber in the heel. Both are great bindings. Response and adjustability is pretty comparable so it comes down mostly to that.
@@thegoodridesnow Thank your for your answer !... I just ordered the Atlas one ;-) Have a good day !
Thanks for the video. I am currently riding with cartel x and jones mercury. I prefer Jones bindings for the responsive feel but cartel X is a lot more comfortable to ride. I was thinking about trying Union bindings, either atlas series or falcor. How do they feel compare to cartel X? I ride 159 Nitro team and 160 Jones hovercraft, with 9.5 Nitro select and Burton Photon. Thanks!
No problem. They are both more adjustable and more responsive. Atlas has less shock absorption but more dampness and a touch more response. Falcor is a little less responsive but not by much, has an easier flex underfoot, less dampness and has softer padding for low speed shock absorption.
Hello. Thanks for the video. I am an all-mountain rider, riding with old (2017-2018) burton genesis, thirty two tm-2 boots and jones mind expander. Do you think Atlas could be a good solution to replace Genesis for more response? Thanks!
No problem. Yes the Atlas will give you a lot more response and adjustability.
Great video. I own a Burton Custom X 2018 with Burton X Base. I’m looking something to replace this excellent binding but very uncomfortable and not to much room about adjustability (I run 11.5 driver x boots on 158W.) Do you think Union Atlas could be a good solution to replace it or you suggest other options? Ps. I also own standard Custom paired to Cartel X and Never Summer Proto FR with Flux XF( again not so room for toe/heel adjustment)
Grazie from Italy
Yeah I think Atlas will be a great call. Maybe even the Falcor. I'd also consider the Rome Black Label, Katana and Nitro Phantom +.
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Which bindings is better to match with Jones stratos for high speeds and carving,
Union atlas or Bataleon astro fullwarp?
Which one would you recommend for a Ride Twinpig board? Will be using to practice buttering as well as some carving
I would probably go Union Strata for the Twinpig.
@@thegoodridesnow awesome thank you! I was between the Union Atlas pro and Union Strata
I live in CA and we don’t get much powder here. I’m looking for a binding that matches my board, 2022 159cm Ride MTN PIG. It’s a pretty stiff board and I don’t really do parks, mostly just carving and speed. I’m torn between Union Atlas and Strata. I found both for the same price that’s why I can’t decide which one is better for me and my riding style. Thanks!
I would go Atlas with the Mtn Pig. That is a better fit but that being said both work so if the Strata calls to you that works too.
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks for the reply! I actually ended up buying Union Falcor. Saw your review about it and decided to get it since I’ve seen a lot of people who likes it too. Constantly learning from all your videos! Thanks!
Thanks and glad they work for you. Those are great bindings too.
I just picked up a ride superpig 154. Im an intermediate-advanced rider looking to up my carving game, what would be your boot/binding recommendation for this?
Yeah Atlas could work. So could Forces, Rome Katana or Cleavers, or Nitro Phantom+. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
What makes these your go to bindings?
I just got a used pair for cheap and threw them on my shadowban. Loving them so far but I’m a gear nerd. Looking at the Rome cleaver/katana and bataleon astros(I wish you can test these) too. I love the response of the atlas and don’t find them too stiff at all.
Adjustability, versatility, chatter absorption/dampness and response. I do wish they had more shock absorption though. The Cleaver and Katana are two excellent bindings as well and if you want the best in shock absorption they are at the top. Haven't tried the Astro's but looks like they have the same pads as Rome so they should be pretty good too but can't really speak to anything else about the binding unless I try it.
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the response! Can’t wait to see what you try next
Need some size advice. I have Burton ION and TM-2 XLT boots size US12 . What Union size should I choose? M or L ?
Large for sure.
Hello, which bindings do you recommend for carving on the well-groomed ski slopes? I am interested in Union Binding models ; Atlas, Force or Falcor? thank you
All work but I would need to know the boards and boots you have to give a better recommendation.
Snowboard is K2 standard 156W, shoes are Ride Anthem
Atlas or Force will do fine. Go Atlas if you want a damper ride and force if you want more shock absorption.
May there be somehow a comparison video between Union Atlas and Fix Magnum and so on? Thank you )
I would love to. Just need Fix to send us bindings to review. They have reached out in the past, said they were going to send binders, but then didn't send them.
Hi there, having a hard time to either get the atlas pro or the regular atlas for my mega Merc. Usually on groomers and some side hits. More free riding than freestyle. Your opinion by any chance good sir?
Happy to help. Well the Mega Merc has a pretty poppy, centered mountain freestyle kind of feel but its not a quick turner. You have to decide between a better/less fatiguing ride in uneven snow with the Atlas vs. a little more response with the Atlas Pro.
What did you end up with? And how do you like them?
@@STAyTHIrstyMyFREind I ended up getting the regular atlas but the beyond medals editions. I was thinking of also getting the new forces as well. But they ride really well with the mega Merc. Just wants to charge all the time but has that freestyle aspect to it as well.
I have a size 43.5 snowboard boots and I found a size M on eBay. Can I still fit in them? Best regards!
Yeah they should fit size mediums really well.
hey i have size 44 (us 10) should i go with Large or Medium ?
I think 44 is more a 10.5 US so it really depends on your boots footprint. If it's a Burton or similarly reduced footprint go Medium. If it's a longer footprint that isn't reduced go Large. I need to know a lot more info though to properly help. Hit me here if you want to do it right. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Do you think in all aspects the Atlas is a strictly better version of the Force? or is there ever a reason to buy a Force over a atlas?
Force is better if you ride a lot of park. But if you ride mir powder the atlas is better
No. Not at all. Davey prefers the Force better because it has EVA foam vs. rubber for easier shock absorption vs. the rubber on the Atlas which dampens up the board better but absorbs less shock. Response is very similar and it really comes down to personal preference. Both are excellent all mountain to freeride bindings.
Atlas is king in powder - there's just some forgiveness in powder where you don't get dumped off your board if you pressured the highback too much and yet it carves like a demon on groomers. So its really good for stiff boards that are good in powder.
Does the atlas work well with the Solomon assassin board?
Yes. So would the Strata.
What would be better on a Nitro Beast Union Atlas or Union force?
Haven't tried the Beast so hard to say. My guess is both will work but I think you might like the Force better with that board.
Hello i have lib tech ejack knife… plz give me bindings advise.
Take a look at the Union Force, Force Classic, Atlas, Rome Katana, Rome Cleaver, Burton Cartel X or Arbor Cypress. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Between the Atlas Pro and Rome Katana which one would you prefer for all mountain? I do a lot of carving and side hits, not much park.
Both are super great bindings and both are favorites on the site. I would say Atlas is better for boot to binding adjustability, has better stance width options and is more reliable. The Katana has more shock absorption, more dampness and more versality with more boards. With the ankle strap angle adjusted you can get more or less response than the Atlas Pro so that's what I mean about versatility. We liked the Atlas better than the Atlas Pro and it would probably compare better to the Katana than the Atlas Pro. So it comes
Which one is more responsive cartel x or atlas 2024 ?
Atlas by a good bit but Cartel X's have more shock absorption.
How do you think the atlas pro would work for my capita outsiders
Not that well. The Outsiders would be better with the Ultra or Strata.
I saw recently Torstein riding the Atlas Pro with the Capita DoA. It must be a mind blowing combination and i guess one should have the abilities to do it.
How is the atlas pro vs the cartel x?
Very different bindings. Cartel X makes the board feel less damp but you get more shock absorption from all that cush foam and it butters most boards easier. The Atlas Pro is more responsive and makes your board feel more damp underfoot without feeling dead. It also has a ton more adjustability. Both are great in their own way.
Hmm I just went cartel x but I do like a responsive binding. Which is more versatile and comfortable for all day all mtn riding?
Footbed being hard has a brick lost me.