I literally bought an ak47 just because I cant find bulk .223 or 5.56x45 at a reasonable price. Im paying roughly .30 to .32 cents a round for 7.62x39 and I can find it in bulk still.
I never heard of soft point bullets before I got into 7.62x39, but in this case they work FANTASTIC compared to hollow points in this caliber. Watching gel tests, hollow points acted just like FMJ, I suspect because the hole in the tip is just too small. However, SOFT POINTS behaved the way you expect a hollow point to do so. It opens up into a mushroom. Granted, it is not consistent in it's mushrooming, but it flattens out on impact. It is devastating.
Never had a box of Remington core loks in your whole life????? Damn that’s like only ammo I’ve had to use in every rifle since I was 10 and my grandad gave me his 30 30 , but my 308 270 and the 30 06 like every gun I’ve ever hunted with I’ve used the same green box of ammo haha nowdays there’s so much marketing with the Hornady and Barnes company making crazy bullets but with hunting I was always taught make sure the bullet doesn’t blow up into pieces you want a entrance and a exit that way they bleed out , or worse case leave a blood trail you can find . I’ve took every deer I’ve ever shot with Remington coreloks I’ve never shot a deer and had em run away though hell I never knew that was a thing till I got older and talk to people who mentioned it my guess is they using bullets that blow up and don’t puncture through the chest cavity on the back side . I haven’t bought any 7.62 x39 yet but it would be a great candidate for hunting with its sectional density be very close with 30 30 with a good soft point bullet that expands and stays together .
@@JoeWayne84 - I have seen the 7.62 soft points in ballistics gel come apart, which would not be optimal for hunting. The tumbling action of them in a JHP doe a great job though. Some rounds tumble more than others like the M67 surplus ammo. It was the reason they changed the design. And I just got interested in firearms about 3 years ago, so I do not have a lifetime of experience.
I bought some bulk tulammo soft point because its all i could really find, come to find out it has the best ballistic gel performance out of any ammo ive owned so far
@@dylanvs9264 - There's a channel on here where he shot the Tulammo (122 grain?) FMJ into organic gel and it tumbled and ripped a really nice wound. I ordered some right away. I also have some soft point after seeing a lot of gel test videos on here. These are in addition to the M67 surplus rounds I have as well. Whether for hunting hogs, or SHTF, I am set. I am looking forward to going hunting and seeing how the various rounds perform in the hogs.
Stopping power is the most arbitrary bit of fuddlore ever conceived - it cannot be quantified. However, if you're comparing the effectiveness of 5.56 and 7.62x39 ball ammo against soft targets, the former blows the latter out of the water because mass only gives you 1/2 the return of the exponential gains you get from velocity. Wound comparison (NSFW): i.imgur.com/eMG679X.png
@@MegaBoooooooooooooob Neat, my comment had nothing to do with 5.45. Although it should be telling to a lot of people that the Soviets mostly replaced 7.62x39 with a caliber closer to 5.56.
I have both in AR and AK rifles & pistols. They're both great. The 7.62x39 in military offering is designed to fire from a 12ish in barrels. It will give you with 95% maximum velocity from a foot of tube. A 223/556 typically requires 18 inches to get within 95% of maximum achievable velocity with commercial or military ammo.
Hey, I'm just getting into recreational shooting, and have been debating getting a certain rifle in either .223/5.56 or 7.62x39. The barrel length of this gun I'm looking at is 12.5 inches. I don't want to sound silly, but when considering maximum velocity, what does that entail? Does it effect accuracy or just power?
an anecdote. Last week (Feb 2021) I went into a local Dunhams store. There was a long line of guys waiting for them to unload the ammo off the truck. I went to another store and came back. All the 9mm and 223/556 was gone. There was still plenty of 7.62x39 available at around 50c/rd. I asked dude "is there a limit on 762?"....he says "nope"
Yup I went for ammo few weeks ago 1000 round of wolf gold .223 was like $1300 or $1400 got 1000 round of tula 7.62x39 for $400. There people lined up for ammo and don’t even own a gun. Guy ahead of me asked if they still had ammo for an AR15. Dude at the counter asked what caliber he replied just regular AR15 ammo. The guy at the counter lied and told him were all out. I got to the counter and asked for .223 or 5.56 they still had a good amount. He told me people been coming in there like that quite often. He can tell they probably don’t own a gun but buy up cases of ammo mostly 5.56 .223 9mm .22LR or .45acp more than likely to resell it at a much higher price. He said he tries not to sell to them if it’s obvious they going to resell it.
7.62x39 tumbling and yaw is dependent on the round. Typically, most lead core (commerical) 7.62x39 will perform like m67 ammunition and yaw early in tissue. The old milsurp mild steel core 7.62x39 (m43) will ice pick through most things without yaw or disruption.
Olive in San Antonio I'd love to meet you we can shoot open sights at 550 meters and see that 556 kicks the shit out of your 762.39 done it for over 2 decades It's not even fair
I seen a comment another video about someone’s Father in law taking a ak47 shot to the face in Vietnam and still going in to kill a group of soilders in his sleep but he got shot in the eye and the bullet went out the side of his skull. The old ammo pierces
7.62x39 can do everything rounds like 300 blackout can do. With the proper loading, you can launch a heavy subsonic bullet. 300 blackout (and I know I’m about to piss off the AR guys, no hate to AR rifles) is for AR guys that defend 5.56 and talk trash about 7.62x39, but they don’t realize 300 blackout is inferior in terms of loadings and cost. Yes, I understand that parts are very interchangeable with .300 blackout and 5.56 AR rifles.
The 5.56 (military-grade) typically weighs between 55gr and 63gr. The 55gr was the initial design, but was quickly superceded by 63gr around sometime in the (mid to late) 70's (due to the latter having semi armor-piercing capability).
The Russian 7.62, on the other hand, was basically designed to blow right through obstacles. The overall size and weight of the bullet really lend well to that purpose, resulting in a significant transfer of energy onto the target. That last part also translates to greater damage inflicted.
I love both equally for different reasons. But if I absolutely had to pick, I would choose the AK platform with 7.62 x 39m It just has a longer, better history of being more reliable overall (Don't tell me about that video of the AK and AR being put through mud and other things, and the AR working better, you would need to run that same test many times over to get an accurate result). The AK and by extension the 7.62 have shown that they run better on the battlefield in nearly every condition and keep going. I love my AR chambered in 5.56, but the AK will always be my personal go to weapon in a SHTF situation.
i agree totally but the winning factor for me is your location on the planet, what is readily available if SHIT HITS THE FAN, you run out of ammo are you going to find lots of 7.62 or 5.56? i would assume in America you will find 5.56 in abundance
at one local store they have hardly any 9mm and the 5.56 is in and out.....meanwhile plenty of Red Army Standard 7.62 x 39 is sitting there for 30c/rd lol
5:30 "she will open up and dissipate her energy but she's still gonna have a pretty massive slug in the back end... that's still gonna have some energy and keep on truckin'.. but it will reduce what those call over penetration" 🧐🤣🤣🤣 That made me chuckle
Great overview, thanks! Only thing missing is the foot-pounds of force data. That's where the weight of bullet and how it's speed and how that gets applied to a target all gets computed and how you make a decision about which one is more effective.
The 7.62x39 has more snort no matter what 5.56 loading you choose. Those steel 5.56 loads DO NOT TUMBLE or fragment. They just poke a tiny hole through. Now that 69 grain bullet will fare much better on soft targets. 7.62x39 hollow points for the win all day long.
@@Glockhead1 5.56 has never "ripped" anyone's head off dude lol 77 grain may be splitting heads open but you're acting like it's .50bmg with anime effects
*Laughs in x39 availability* Seriously though, x39 doesnt have the government competing for stock. So at least in the states its strictly consumer market. Best thing is to own every caliber like a true American.
That information doesn’t do anyone any good now. I guess the key take away is stick up when you can because all good things in abundance will not always be abundant.
Would much prefer 5.45 if I was going for an AK. Much closer performance to the 5.56 as the Soviets were going for. Too bad theres no domestic manufacturers and less of a bullet selection or I'd pick 5.45 over 7.62 any day of the week.
My uncle served in Vietnam and he hated the 7.62X39 but he respected it: "We had our M16's loaded with .223 and they would bounce off the trees when Charlie hid behind them, his 7.62X39 went THROUGH the trees and about anything else!" This may have been a major factor in that war, besides the early M16's jamming when our soldiers were told they didn't have to be cleaned.
Great video, thanks! Two great rounds, if I had to choose only one, I would choose .556; just personal preference based on weight, velocity, options and accuracy. Good to have both in your arsenal though.
It would be nice to see someone discuss distance, drop and accuracy of the two rounds without the context of their typical rifles. In other word the ak47 is typically regarded as a less accurate rifle than the ar15. Ruger now produces a bolt action in 556, 763.39, 300aac, and 6,5 gren. So one would think that a rifle such as that would be fairly standard for each round. It would be awesome to see some range time at different distances with each round.
I have several of each. What is your purpose? What is your likely maximum range? They'll both deal with it at 200 yards from a 16 inch barrel. It becomes iffy from a 10 inch barrel
I couldn't care less what the weight of 1000 rounds is, I I'll take the 7.62x39 over the 223 every day. I have an SKS, and I'll take that over an AR platform every day, also.
Get the best of both worlds with an AK-102, personally I believe a 12.5" is the best balance between ballistics, maneuverability, and weight with the undeniable reliability of the AK platform.
You can go AR for 223 and 5.56 but also for 7.62x39, I only know this because I bought one lol so if you don't like an AK or just like the AR more but want the 7.62x39 round you're in luck
Russia is no longer using the 7.62x39 in their army. They are using the 5.45x39 ak-74 variant only so and the chinese are using a 5.8mm in their army QBZ 95 so the 7.62x39 will not be available so cheap soon brothers. God Bless and stay safe
Lots of countries still use it the ak74 a has been around since 1974 ! That’s a longtime the old ak isn’t going away their still out their being used and stored and more are being made every day! I’d bet theirs more 7.62x39 fighting rifles then not in the whole of the world. I live in Tennessee theirs no where to shoot more then 300 yds I’ve shot it out to 600 but that’s the most extreme most shots are 100 or less
@@jefferyboring4410 West of the Tennessee river is flatter than ohio bro. I was honestly kind of surprised we could use bottle neck rifle rounds for hunting when I moved down here. You can shoot WAY past 300 out here in cotton and soybean country. There's a big shooting range over in Jackson but you have to be a member.
How long does your extractor and bolt last when you shoot a lot of steel case ? I really only shoot brass in my AR15....I just seem to avoid steel case but I dont have a good reason. Steel case just seems like it would tear stuff up. Thought based on nothing though.
@Nightmarewalkin Psychopathtalkin I will indeed. There is a lot of that red army surplus ammo available around here lately. I just don't have the experience yet . But most people are telling me it isn't a big deal. I am gonna get some Wolf, I think it is similar to that red army stuff anyway. I will get some this weekend for sure
@@rickm4295 I’ve had zero issues out of red army 7.62 ammo out of my sks and aks. About to finish up on a ar47 and I’m curious how it’ll run steel in general myself. Wasn’t too big on having to buy this caliber in this platform but it’s about all that’s available right now.
The only issue I have had with steel case is lacquer causing the case to stick in the chamber. I have run tons of steel. Most of the reasons you here for not using steel are complete bs
I've never shot anything in my AK but steel case wolf ammo. Why? Because it was the cheapest bulk ammo I could find at the time 😂. My AK could care less..it just shoots 👍
Clearly a .308 is superior to both the afore mentioned rounds. No need to compare the two/three. It’s like comparing a V8 5.7 Hemi to a V6 in a mustang. No competition
Just went out and bought my first AK mostly because the ammo is so easy to find and cheap to shoot in comparison to my AR. If you love guns and shooting why not get as many variants as you can?
For everything to work properly you need a heavier buffer and buffer spring, barrel , firing pin, bolt, heaver hammer spring and the correct magazines.
The 7.62 x 39 has slightly more recoil than 5.56 x 45, but it's not really by much. I personally like the recoil of the 7.62 more, because it's light enough where a child can shoot it (and they do). But the round is powerful enough to put down nearly anything infront of you, including some larger animals. I can't say the same for 5.56, though it still has its advantages. So all-in-all, there isn't really that much of a difference, they're both relatively light in recoil when compared to rounds like .308 or 30-06.
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Why the hell did you go to a baby voice when you said slide them over at the beginning.... pretty weird...
I also have the sk and ak. Plus a 16inch and 20inch for ar sometimes I don't no which one to choose from it be so hard haha
7.62x39 may be heavier, slower and fatter. Yet, in FMJ at typical combat distances, it’s pretty hard to beat. Especially in brush fighting.
I literally bought an ak47 just because I cant find bulk .223 or 5.56x45 at a reasonable price. Im paying roughly .30 to .32 cents a round for 7.62x39 and I can find it in bulk still.
@Janga Lang ARs are trash come over to the dark side comrade 🇷🇺
I bought a ar -15 without realizing this smh
Bro I did the exact same thing, went with a PSAK-47 GF3.
@Janga Lang if you are using the 7.62x39 just get an ak. Unique and you can do tons with them, just a little harder than doing it with an ar
@Thomas B Vska’s are pretty trash ak’s typically. How many rounds you put through yours so far? wouldnt want it blowing up in your face
I have several 5.56s but got an SKS because all I can find at a reasonable price is 7.62 Soviet. Roughly 35 cents a round vs 1.10 per 5.56.
Got me 3 sks's they good old work hourses 👍👍
They will all do a lot of damage, I wouldn't wanna get hit by neither one!!
I never heard of soft point bullets before I got into 7.62x39, but in this case they work FANTASTIC compared to hollow points in this caliber. Watching gel tests, hollow points acted just like FMJ, I suspect because the hole in the tip is just too small. However, SOFT POINTS behaved the way you expect a hollow point to do so. It opens up into a mushroom. Granted, it is not consistent in it's mushrooming, but it flattens out on impact. It is devastating.
Never had a box of Remington core loks in your whole life????? Damn that’s like only ammo I’ve had to use in every rifle since I was 10 and my grandad gave me his 30 30 , but my 308 270 and the 30 06 like every gun I’ve ever hunted with I’ve used the same green box of ammo haha nowdays there’s so much marketing with the Hornady and Barnes company making crazy bullets but with hunting I was always taught make sure the bullet doesn’t blow up into pieces you want a entrance and a exit that way they bleed out , or worse case leave a blood trail you can find .
I’ve took every deer I’ve ever shot with Remington coreloks I’ve never shot a deer and had em run away though hell I never knew that was a thing till I got older and talk to people who mentioned it my guess is they using bullets that blow up and don’t puncture through the chest cavity on the back side . I haven’t bought any 7.62 x39 yet but it would be a great candidate for hunting with its sectional density be very close with 30 30 with a good soft point bullet that expands and stays together .
@@JoeWayne84 - I have seen the 7.62 soft points in ballistics gel come apart, which would not be optimal for hunting. The tumbling action of them in a JHP doe a great job though. Some rounds tumble more than others like the M67 surplus ammo. It was the reason they changed the design. And I just got interested in firearms about 3 years ago, so I do not have a lifetime of experience.
I bought some bulk tulammo soft point because its all i could really find, come to find out it has the best ballistic gel performance out of any ammo ive owned so far
@@dylanvs9264 - There's a channel on here where he shot the Tulammo (122 grain?) FMJ into organic gel and it tumbled and ripped a really nice wound. I ordered some right away. I also have some soft point after seeing a lot of gel test videos on here. These are in addition to the M67 surplus rounds I have as well. Whether for hunting hogs, or SHTF, I am set. I am looking forward to going hunting and seeing how the various rounds perform in the hogs.
@TheEndIsExtemelyFknNeigh - Hunting.
That coffee slurp makes me want to slap tf out of someone.
I love everything he does... but that lol
🤣🤣
Who? Me?
I have an instant slap reaction to slurping, it makes relationships hard.its just so damn irritating
Own both caliber, both in AR15 platform. 556 in 16'' inch barrel 762 in 12.5'' love them both equally. Both are deadly.
5.56: accuracy, range, velocity, low recoil
7.62x39: stopping power, barrier penetration
Stopping power is the most arbitrary bit of fuddlore ever conceived - it cannot be quantified. However, if you're comparing the effectiveness of 5.56 and 7.62x39 ball ammo against soft targets, the former blows the latter out of the water because mass only gives you 1/2 the return of the exponential gains you get from velocity. Wound comparison (NSFW): i.imgur.com/eMG679X.png
@@meeshii3 5.45x39 is superior...
@@MegaBoooooooooooooob Neat, my comment had nothing to do with 5.45. Although it should be telling to a lot of people that the Soviets mostly replaced 7.62x39 with a caliber closer to 5.56.
@@meeshii3 at the expense of being less effective in bush or thick cover. Both still have their place, to be sure.
I'm an Ak/ 7.62×39 "partisan" myself , but the AR 5.56 platform is fun too.
That comment about 7.62 being unavailable and 223 staying around didn’t hold up well...
For real lol.
@Thomas B I don’t really like paying that much for it tbh but it’s better than nothing
@Thomas B yup. lately 5.56 like .90+ avg... .223 ~ .65 .. as of today. 7.62 is .43... 🤔 a lot of disparity
I have a box of Surplus Steel 7.62 x 39 from 2 years ago, 100 for $19.95. Ah, the good old days.... Now I can't find any near me at any price 😐. Blyat
@@DRONETREADONME at first I thought you were offering me 100 rounds for 20$ now my day is ruined, thanks my guy
I love 7.62.39 & 556. &223
I have both in AR and AK rifles & pistols. They're both great. The 7.62x39 in military offering is designed to fire from a 12ish in barrels. It will give you with 95% maximum velocity from a foot of tube. A 223/556 typically requires 18 inches to get within 95% of maximum achievable velocity with commercial or military ammo.
Hey, I'm just getting into recreational shooting, and have been debating getting a certain rifle in either .223/5.56 or 7.62x39. The barrel length of this gun I'm looking at is 12.5 inches. I don't want to sound silly, but when considering maximum velocity, what does that entail? Does it effect accuracy or just power?
@@r1-le801soooo uhhh…. What did you decide?
an anecdote. Last week (Feb 2021) I went into a local Dunhams store. There was a long line of guys waiting for them to unload the ammo off the truck. I went to another store and came back. All the 9mm and 223/556 was gone. There was still plenty of 7.62x39 available at around 50c/rd. I asked dude "is there a limit on 762?"....he says "nope"
Yup I went for ammo few weeks ago 1000 round of wolf gold .223 was like $1300 or $1400 got 1000 round of tula 7.62x39 for $400. There people lined up for ammo and don’t even own a gun. Guy ahead of me asked if they still had ammo for an AR15. Dude at the counter asked what caliber he replied just regular AR15 ammo. The guy at the counter lied and told him were all out. I got to the counter and asked for .223 or 5.56 they still had a good amount. He told me people been coming in there like that quite often. He can tell they probably don’t own a gun but buy up cases of ammo mostly 5.56 .223 9mm .22LR or .45acp more than likely to resell it at a much higher price. He said he tries not to sell to them if it’s obvious they going to resell it.
@@crazyjhey8050 and then everybody clapped and cheered
7.62x39 tumbling and yaw is dependent on the round. Typically, most lead core (commerical) 7.62x39 will perform like m67 ammunition and yaw early in tissue. The old milsurp mild steel core 7.62x39 (m43) will ice pick through most things without yaw or disruption.
Great information brother! 👍👍
Olive in San Antonio I'd love to meet you we can shoot open sights at 550 meters and see that 556 kicks the shit out of your 762.39 done it for over 2 decades
It's not even fair
I seen a comment another video about someone’s Father in law taking a ak47 shot to the face in Vietnam and still going in to kill a group of soilders in his sleep but he got shot in the eye and the bullet went out the side of his skull. The old ammo pierces
7.62x39 for the win👍🇺🇸
Love me some 7.62x30'frikkinawesome!
@@CACTICALMAIN my choice for wild hogs👍🇺🇸
Accept in combat at 200 plus yards it sucks ass to the 556........sorry been there done that.
@Janga Lang 556
7.62x39 for the win👍🇷🇺
7.62x39 can do everything rounds like 300 blackout can do. With the proper loading, you can launch a heavy subsonic bullet. 300 blackout (and I know I’m about to piss off the AR guys, no hate to AR rifles) is for AR guys that defend 5.56 and talk trash about 7.62x39, but they don’t realize 300 blackout is inferior in terms of loadings and cost. Yes, I understand that parts are very interchangeable with .300 blackout and 5.56 AR rifles.
The 5.56 (military-grade) typically weighs between 55gr and 63gr. The 55gr was the initial design, but was quickly superceded by 63gr around sometime in the (mid to late) 70's (due to the latter having semi armor-piercing capability).
The Russian 7.62, on the other hand, was basically designed to blow right through obstacles.
The overall size and weight of the bullet really lend well to that purpose, resulting in a significant transfer of energy onto the target.
That last part also translates to greater damage inflicted.
“The heaviest I go is 69 grain...”
Giggidy!
I go 62
I love both equally for different reasons. But if I absolutely had to pick, I would choose the AK platform with 7.62 x 39m It just has a longer, better history of being more reliable overall (Don't tell me about that video of the AK and AR being put through mud and other things, and the AR working better, you would need to run that same test many times over to get an accurate result). The AK and by extension the 7.62 have shown that they run better on the battlefield in nearly every condition and keep going. I love my AR chambered in 5.56, but the AK will always be my personal go to weapon in a SHTF situation.
i agree totally but the winning factor for me is your location on the planet, what is readily available if SHIT HITS THE FAN, you run out of ammo are you going to find lots of 7.62 or 5.56? i would assume in America you will find 5.56 in abundance
762x39 is all I can find right now and it is easy to get.
at one local store they have hardly any 9mm and the 5.56 is in and out.....meanwhile plenty of Red Army Standard 7.62 x 39 is sitting there for 30c/rd lol
5:30 "she will open up and dissipate her energy but she's still gonna have a pretty massive slug in the back end... that's still gonna have some energy and keep on truckin'.. but it will reduce what those call over penetration"
🧐🤣🤣🤣
That made me chuckle
Great overview, thanks! Only thing missing is the foot-pounds of force data. That's where the weight of bullet and how it's speed and how that gets applied to a target all gets computed and how you make a decision about which one is more effective.
The 7.62x39 has more snort no matter what 5.56 loading you choose. Those steel 5.56 loads DO NOT TUMBLE or fragment. They just poke a tiny hole through. Now that 69 grain bullet will fare much better on soft targets. 7.62x39 hollow points for the win all day long.
i would hate to be hit by either, but atleast be fair and use a 5.56 hollow, if your using the 7.62 hollow, i bet that wont just poke a tiny hole.
5.56 tumbles worse then 7.62 by far
tiny hole? yea right….
5.56 had the power to tear off a human head .You’ve never seen its effects on the human body…tiny hole…LOL🤦♂️
@@Glockhead1 5.56 has never "ripped" anyone's head off dude lol 77 grain may be splitting heads open but you're acting like it's .50bmg with anime effects
I don't have to choose, I have platforms to fire both. You need to be able to utilize both rounds.
7.62x39mm
I’m 2020 and 2021 AK ammo is easier to find than 556 good time to get an Ak
*Laughs in x39 availability*
Seriously though, x39 doesnt have the government competing for stock. So at least in the states its strictly consumer market. Best thing is to own every caliber like a true American.
Yes sir
Tula 154 grain 7.62x39 soft points are awesome hunting rounds.
There was tons of 7x62x39 in the United States back in the 90s
That information doesn’t do anyone any good now. I guess the key take away is stick up when you can because all good things in abundance will not always be abundant.
Awesome video. All
My fighting rifles eat these two rounds. Thanks for not including that bastard cartridge the .300 Crapout. 🤣 -OG
Would much prefer 5.45 if I was going for an AK. Much closer performance to the 5.56 as the Soviets were going for. Too bad theres no domestic manufacturers and less of a bullet selection or I'd pick 5.45 over 7.62 any day of the week.
same💯💯💯💪
My uncle served in Vietnam and he hated the 7.62X39 but he respected it: "We had our M16's loaded with .223 and they would bounce off the trees when Charlie hid behind them, his 7.62X39 went THROUGH the trees and about anything else!" This may have been a major factor in that war, besides the early M16's jamming when our soldiers were told they didn't have to be cleaned.
1000Rd of 7.62x39mm is 34lb and the 5.56MM 27lb for 1000Rd
Gotta lift more 💪
I like me some golden 🐅
Better hope that bitch carole baskin's doesnt get ahold of it.
Your mat was giving me optical illusions lol
Great video, thanks!
Two great rounds, if I had to choose only one, I would choose .556; just personal preference based on weight, velocity, options and accuracy. Good to have both in your arsenal though.
55gr is designed to yaw. 77gr is designed to tumble. That's why 77 still works at longer distances
If I in Alien Covenant 762 all the time. Or any Alien movie
It would be nice to see someone discuss distance, drop and accuracy of the two rounds without the context of their typical rifles. In other word the ak47 is typically regarded as a less accurate rifle than the ar15. Ruger now produces a bolt action in 556, 763.39, 300aac, and 6,5 gren. So one would think that a rifle such as that would be fairly standard for each round. It would be awesome to see some range time at different distances with each round.
I have several of each. What is your purpose? What is your likely maximum range?
They'll both deal with it at 200 yards from a 16 inch barrel.
It becomes iffy from a 10 inch barrel
I've got Both, I Like Both. They Both make shit dead....good enough!
Id look at Tula sp you wouldn't make it to the ER
154 grain 7.62x39 soft point is no joke..
Excellent review. Thanks for the info. The pew pew pew outtro made me laugh haha
No politics please what's stronger 7.62x39 or 5.56
“Keep on TRUCKIN”💪🏾💪🏾
Steel-cased Russian ammunition is the best due it's robustness. Really well-made overall.
I couldn't care less what the weight of 1000 rounds is, I I'll take the 7.62x39 over the 223 every day. I have an SKS, and I'll take that over an AR platform every day, also.
Is there a huge recoil difference. I know 5.56 isn’t even bad but when you shoot 7.62x39 is it a massive difference or a little enough to notice it?
yes. not huge but definitely a difference.
You need to make 7.62x39mm with 150gr Triple shock From a 7.62x51mm 308 Use magnum primer sraw weather
In my Radical firearms Ar47, I carry Tulammo 154g SP for SD, and hunting
The correct answer for which to get as an American: both
Nice review
Which of these was the easiest round to find during the shortage?
I want to know
556,i never found 762x39 ammo till this day
7.62 was a lot easier (and cheaper) up until the ban on Russian ammunition.
545/556 are better in every way, but when SHTF situation - everyone switches to old and proven 7.62x39
In SHTF you use whatever you can.
@DasGoodSoup And then someone will be waiting for that guy with a knife. Let’s hope it never comes to any of that, but always be ready.
Get the best of both worlds with an AK-102, personally I believe a 12.5" is the best balance between ballistics, maneuverability, and weight with the undeniable reliability of the AK platform.
You can go AR for 223 and 5.56 but also for 7.62x39, I only know this because I bought one lol so if you don't like an AK or just like the AR more but want the 7.62x39 round you're in luck
Mini 14s are badass. You should totally buy one.
Good video, good info, Thanks.
Love the 762round👍
The 762×39 Fullmetal jacket will penetrate the engine block of an 18wheeler at 500 yard's .
Russia is no longer using the 7.62x39 in their army. They are using the 5.45x39 ak-74 variant only so and the chinese are using a 5.8mm in their army QBZ 95 so the 7.62x39 will not be available so cheap soon brothers. God Bless and stay safe
I was just thinking of making an ar15 shooting 7.62. worst case scenario I'll switch out the barrel and mags of it ever comes to it.
Lots of countries still use it the ak74 a has been around since 1974 ! That’s a longtime the old ak isn’t going away their still out their being used and stored and more are being made every day! I’d bet theirs more 7.62x39 fighting rifles then not in the whole of the world. I live in Tennessee theirs no where to shoot more then 300 yds I’ve shot it out to 600 but that’s the most extreme most shots are 100 or less
@@jefferyboring4410 West of the Tennessee river is flatter than ohio bro. I was honestly kind of surprised we could use bottle neck rifle rounds for hunting when I moved down here. You can shoot WAY past 300 out here in cotton and soybean country. There's a big shooting range over in Jackson but you have to be a member.
Good video 👍
M-16 For Offense & M-14 For Defense, Semper-Fi.
How long does your extractor and bolt last when you shoot a lot of steel case ? I really only shoot brass in my AR15....I just seem to avoid steel case but I dont have a good reason. Steel case just seems like it would tear stuff up. Thought based on nothing though.
I also run brass in my ar but it only seems right to run steel in my ak
@Nightmarewalkin Psychopathtalkin It's getting to the point I have no choice if I want to train regular. Thanks for the confidence going forward
@Nightmarewalkin Psychopathtalkin I will indeed. There is a lot of that red army surplus ammo available around here lately. I just don't have the experience yet . But most people are telling me it isn't a big deal. I am gonna get some Wolf, I think it is similar to that red army stuff anyway. I will get some this weekend for sure
@@rickm4295 I’ve had zero issues out of red army 7.62 ammo out of my sks and aks. About to finish up on a ar47 and I’m curious how it’ll run steel in general myself. Wasn’t too big on having to buy this caliber in this platform but it’s about all that’s available right now.
The only issue I have had with steel case is lacquer causing the case to stick in the chamber. I have run tons of steel. Most of the reasons you here for not using steel are complete bs
I've never shot anything in my AK but steel case wolf ammo. Why? Because it was the cheapest bulk ammo I could find at the time 😂. My AK could care less..it just shoots 👍
how about adding the .308 & compare all 4 that would be cool
Oh man, gonna make me buy a new gun. I'm telling the wife its your fault! Lololol 👍👍🤣🤣
@@CACTICALMAIN 😂😂😂 do like I do buy it 1st then I tell her look what I bought she'll throw a fit but is to late I got it already 😂😂
It kicks the shit out of the .39 at any range.......the farther out the worse the ass kickin' gets.
Clearly a .308 is superior to both the afore mentioned rounds. No need to compare the two/three.
It’s like comparing a V8 5.7 Hemi to a V6 in a mustang. No competition
@@maccliff2115 yeah I knw is a heavier cal but would be cool to watch
I cant make up my mind so ill just pack both lol..
Just went out and bought my first AK mostly because the ammo is so easy to find and cheap to shoot in comparison to my AR. If you love guns and shooting why not get as many variants as you can?
Wise man from all the soyboys distracting from which one is better.
Will my 5.56 rifle that's multi lower, shoot 7.62 if I swap out to a 7.62 upper? I would imagine only the barrel and bolt need to be changed? Thanks.
Yes you just need to buy the appropriate mags for 7.62x39
For everything to work properly you need a heavier buffer and buffer spring, barrel , firing pin, bolt, heaver hammer spring and the correct magazines.
I love the 223
Red ring for corrosive?
Who’s here after the backdoor gun control ammo ban
Nice
Cost Factor
7.62 x39 bigger the better powerful fatal bullet
Can anyone tell me if the recoil between those 2?
The 7.62 x 39 has slightly more recoil than 5.56 x 45, but it's not really by much. I personally like the recoil of the 7.62 more, because it's light enough where a child can shoot it (and they do). But the round is powerful enough to put down nearly anything infront of you, including some larger animals. I can't say the same for 5.56, though it still has its advantages. So all-in-all, there isn't really that much of a difference, they're both relatively light in recoil when compared to rounds like .308 or 30-06.
@@TheTGRproductions Thank you so much!
Glad I bought a Hellpup pistol 😈
"Letting it cool down" doesn't go well when the boog starts... brass or plain steel case is the way to go...
Fuck off commie
Is it me or does that 7.62x39 with the sealed case mouth look like someone drew around it with a sharpie? Asking for a friend...
.45auto Vs. .38super.
I didn’t hear anything about accuracy
Both are accurate enough. Usually comes down to the shooter.
Listening, it’s very incoherent.
Those nails.bro
great vid, would've liked more ballistics comparison