Firearms Facts: .30 Caliber Explained

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    In this video, Ray and I answer the question "What is 30 caliber?" There is a lot of confusion between the different rounds out there which utilize a .308-.312 diameter bullet and we attempt to clear the air in this video.
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  • @jimsills4129
    @jimsills4129 9 лет назад +450

    Really like Ray. Have him more often. Great demeanor. Well spoken. Good communicator. Very very knowledgeable. More Ray.

    • @BosleyBeats
      @BosleyBeats 9 лет назад +11

      Yeah he's awesome. I love this damn channel

    • @Sprotdude17
      @Sprotdude17 9 лет назад +9

      I still miss Barry RIP

    • @Sprotdude17
      @Sprotdude17 9 лет назад +26

      I still miss Barry RIP

    • @Sprotdude17
      @Sprotdude17 9 лет назад +3

      Yes

    • @Nikolai973
      @Nikolai973 9 лет назад +9

      Jim Sills Hes like "gun-santa"

  • @Cornerala
    @Cornerala 9 лет назад +461

    I realy enjoy listening to Ray's stories. I wish you guys could make videos about Ray telling stories about the history of firearms

    • @ducknorris9715
      @ducknorris9715 9 лет назад +13

      That'd be so cool i'l wach every single episode xD

    • @Papperlapappmaul
      @Papperlapappmaul 9 лет назад +26

      Ala-eddine el ouazzani I totally agree, plus Ray's voice is so pleasantly calm - perfect for story telling.

    • @chubbygutzits
      @chubbygutzits 9 лет назад +4

      That would be great.

    • @Tugi666
      @Tugi666 9 лет назад +4

      swiss is it just me, or does Ray sound exactly same as Chris Kyle? To me, their voices sound so similar.

    • @antoineh.1014
      @antoineh.1014 9 лет назад +3

      Excellent idea!

  • @matthewmutch7507
    @matthewmutch7507 4 года назад +5

    Hi guys I have an interesting cal for you.
    I'm in Australia and back around the end of ww2 the nsw government decided that the average Joe could not have military cal rifles. The problem with this was everyone had a .303brit so a lot of people had these rifles rebarrelled to wild cat like .303/22 and .303/25 just to name a few.
    But a sydney gunsmith went a little further and created a 7.7x54mm.
    By doing this they got around the law and kept there rifles.
    I enjoy this cal because it's fun to reload as you need 303 brass resized to 7.7×54 then trim excess brass from the neck before loading powder and seating great time killer!
    Essentially making the .303 brit 2mm shorter.
    And that's what I have in a Lee Enfield

  • @UziNineMillomeetah
    @UziNineMillomeetah 9 лет назад +174

    Love these vids boys. It's like a more fun version of watching the History Channel.

    • @jasonfedeli
      @jasonfedeli 9 лет назад +1

      ***** YES!! Exactly!

    • @saltydiarrhea386
      @saltydiarrhea386 9 лет назад +5

      Jason Fedeli More fun and more informative! This has become one of my favorite YT channels.
      I subbed late in the game and I'm still really enjoying many of the past episodes. I have learned a great deal of jeopardy information, and practical information from this channel.
      Thank you to all that are involved and have been involved-- you folks are what the internet needs more of: Kind, Smart, and Humorous Souls.

    • @peterdvornik
      @peterdvornik 9 лет назад +9

      Do you mean the aliens and reality tv channel? I think they used to be about history....

    • @admiralgoodboy
      @admiralgoodboy 6 лет назад

      Also accurate

    • @jonathang5350
      @jonathang5350 5 лет назад +1

      @@peterdvornik So true. I miss the good ol' days of history channel focused more on military stuff :(

  • @Jacksonhasjacob
    @Jacksonhasjacob 8 лет назад +30

    I like Ray, wish we could see more of him.

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 5 лет назад +5

    I think a lot of people fail to understand that "30 caliber" always refers to the diameter of the BORE of the rifle -- not the diameter of the bullet. A modern 308 bullet, for example is indeed fired in a .300 BORE barrel -- which has rifling grooves cut out in it out to a diameter of (about) .308. Diameters of bullets for "30 caliber" rifles can vary as depth of rifling varies (historically).

    • @shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965
      @shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965 9 месяцев назад

      Its both. You have to have the bore and projectile match. Obviously the bullet a little bigger but barely.
      .30 caliber is 300/1000 of an inch. That's it..

    • @GetMeThere1
      @GetMeThere1 9 месяцев назад

      @@shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965 LOL I think there's been a bit too much cannabis for you. You don't really know what you're talking about. Why do you try?

  • @BeansAndBullets1391
    @BeansAndBullets1391 3 года назад +8

    I love how Ray is like a walking encyclopedia of firearm's history and general gun knowledge, awesome series of videos, you guys should do some in depth videos about the history and development of different cartridges, like history of 30.06, or 45acp, or 30-30, that would be really cool.

    • @davegordon6943
      @davegordon6943 7 месяцев назад

      Couple questions from someone with not much knowledge of the sizes and pros and cons. My question is why would some tanks and amphibious vehicles have both a .50 cal and a 30 mm?
      And would the30 be comparable to the m-60 or the saw ? Also wasn't the BAR a 30? Last question haha, sorry man, don't the A-10 warthogs have a 30 mm gatlin gun? Seems like the same size bullet can be completely different if used in different platforms. All of what I said could be completely wrong or misinformed. Just confused

    • @BeansAndBullets1391
      @BeansAndBullets1391 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@davegordon6943 well a 30mm is far bigger than .30 caliber. Caliber is an expression of inches so a .50 caliber bullet is half an inch in diameter. The BAR fires the 30.06 Springfield cartridge, which means 30 caliber of 06 as in 1906, not sure if it was invented in 1906 or if that's when it was adopted by the military but it was originally used in the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle. It gets confusing sometimes but bullets are measured either in metric like 9mm or 7.62x39 or they're measured in caliber (inches) like 22.3 (5.56mm) or .45acp.

    • @davegordon6943
      @davegordon6943 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@BeansAndBullets1391 thanks man.

  • @PipBoy3100
    @PipBoy3100 9 лет назад +62

    Why does the most seemingly intelligent and articulate man on this channel also look the most like a hobo? Never judge a bearded book by it's cover. Ray should be in a starburst commercial with that scottish korean guy.

  • @gonzalesrafael22
    @gonzalesrafael22 9 лет назад +5

    I love me my Firearm Facts. Even when I have a general understanding of the topic being discussed, they are always good videos.

  • @dscarsella1
    @dscarsella1 9 лет назад +1

    I remember trying to explain to a friend why I bought a 300 blk when I already had a 7.62x39. He asked why do you need another .30 cal gun. This video would have helped. Long over due and looking forward to the 22 video. Owning a M6 scout in 22 hornet. Ive had more than a few gun shops give me regular 22lr.

  • @SwankeyMonkey
    @SwankeyMonkey 9 лет назад +7

    2:10 This is so true.
    I've been trying to find out for the longest time what my Dad's old service rifle was so I could buy one, and all I ever heard from him was that it was the "30-caliber".
    And since he had served between Korea and Vietnam, I thought I had the options narrowed down to either the common M1-Garand or M1A/M14 and I didn't even consider the smaller M1-Carbine because I thought that was the paratrooper or tank crew rifle.
    Well, sure enough I was completely wrong and my Dad's rifle was the M1-Carbine that they were all issued for their detail.
    So many options for the 30cal makes it hard for those trying to pick the right one for themselves, or determine what was used through history for what application.

    • @outlawz38
      @outlawz38 2 года назад

      this is an old comment, maybe you found your answer. but i watched a video by duece and guns....it was about 7.62 rounds but he discussed 30 cal bullets.

  • @JimmieJoeSparky
    @JimmieJoeSparky 9 лет назад +90

    I heard Ray's beard is chambered in .30 caliber😝

  • @avalon449
    @avalon449 9 лет назад +126

    Is Ray going to be in a play for the Ten Commandments?

    • @jdrake3377
      @jdrake3377 9 лет назад +1

      avalon449 I think he is 1 big earring away from being a hipster.

    • @avalon449
      @avalon449 9 лет назад +13

      I like Ray. He has a quiet way about him and he's very knowledgable and is able to teach what he knows.

    • @kws0013
      @kws0013 9 лет назад

      Hahahahahaha

    • @dannylopez8864
      @dannylopez8864 8 лет назад +4

      No his playing ..big country ..Roy Nelson

    • @mattheob2132
      @mattheob2132 6 лет назад

      Ray from Tenn.

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions 5 лет назад +2

    I like this pairing. Ray is easy to listen to and explains much detail with stories to support his views. Eric seems less combative than when he works with Chad because Ray was actually able to finish his thoughts while Chad hardly is able to do so.

  • @neotracer075
    @neotracer075 8 лет назад +13

    Bring this series back!!

  • @VSO_Gun_Channel
    @VSO_Gun_Channel 9 лет назад +22

    Outstanding gentlemen

  • @cowslayer2926
    @cowslayer2926 5 лет назад +3

    I love the fact that when I watch you guys I’m always taught something

  • @Rcasca1
    @Rcasca1 9 лет назад +7

    I have been around firearms all my life.
    I never realized that some people didn't realize this.
    Awsome video with great info.

  • @SuperSneakySteve
    @SuperSneakySteve 9 лет назад +30

    Ray has a superior beard to Eric's.

  • @OmarKrauser
    @OmarKrauser 9 лет назад +1

    Ray has such an amazingly calming voice. I'd love to have him read me bed time stories and talk me through meditation.

  • @harveygussow8852
    @harveygussow8852 8 лет назад +4

    RAY! We love you man. You guys have validated my belief in 308. There are a lot of good firearms and am going to get them.

  • @walterkilchherr8996
    @walterkilchherr8996 2 месяца назад

    So cool to see a couple of guys mention Schmit Ruben and 30-40 Krag in the same video. Thanks!

  • @howardtbrandon
    @howardtbrandon 8 лет назад +3

    We need to see more of Ray. His presentation and knowledge is outstanding

  • @JoeyP322
    @JoeyP322 9 лет назад

    Ray seems like a very well educated and very well spoken man on firearms... He speaks well and isn't boring. You should have him in more episodes. Absolutely love him.... Great subject as well. Keep up the great work!

  • @WRBuchanan100
    @WRBuchanan100 9 лет назад +23

    Gosh Guys you could have explained this in one sentence. .30 caliber is the Bore Diameter IE: the hole that is drilled in the barrel before it is rifled,,,which normally is .300. The groove dia. is .308 after it is rifled. Rifling Gooves tend to be between .003 and .005 deep on a side. IE .300+.004+.004=.308
    But even more basically it relates to the common number 5/16" which is .3125. which was settled on at the end of the 19th Century as the best size to kill people with. WE pretty much followed the British on this as they were using a .303 dia bore with .005 deep rifling grooves for .313. or 5/16"
    .22cal. rifles have .218 bores and .224 grooves .218 is 7/32"
    .25 cal. rifles have .250 bores and .257 grooves and are 1/4'
    Metric calibers are usually called out on the actual Bore Dia. IE 6MM which we know as the .243 has a .236 bore which is 6 mm and a groove dia of .243.
    Now the problem is,,, there are a zillion exceptions to these rules. And that's where history comes in.
    .44's when made as Cap and Ball Revolvers were actually .44, however then they started making .44 cartridges with Heeled bullets (like a .22 LR same dia as the case) and they were still .44,,, then they started putting the bullets inside the cases and that's where everything got screwed up. .44 Magnums have bores near .422 and bullets at .429-430. which by all rights should be called .42 caliber.
    Luckily .45's are still .45's! and above that it really doesn't matter.

    • @letsbuilda4ort
      @letsbuilda4ort 6 лет назад

      geeezus thank you. these guys go on forever.

    • @HarrisonCountyStudio
      @HarrisonCountyStudio 5 лет назад +2

      It took me 25 minutes to read that 😉

    • @lmsmbassaddict7779
      @lmsmbassaddict7779 5 лет назад +3

      Lol you stated that "they could have explained this in one sentence" but you used 2 paragraphs explain it. I'm not doggin you out, the information is there... But, there are better ways to go about giving information. You would come off less like you're trying to one up someone's hard work, and more like you care and are trying to educate. Thank you, that is all.

    • @mpleonatti
      @mpleonatti 4 года назад

      Shut up Randy...

    • @buchananprecisionmachine5490
      @buchananprecisionmachine5490 4 года назад +1

      @@lmsmbassaddict7779 What they said could have been in one sentence. What I said needed more.

  • @joeludlow9764
    @joeludlow9764 7 лет назад +1

    You should give Ray his own series on your channel is you're willing. I love his stories. Reminds me of when I was a kid listening to my grandpa. Also, .300 Weatherby magnum. That cartridge scared the living hell out of me as a kid. My dad called it the "elephant gun".

  • @ssmith8592
    @ssmith8592 7 лет назад +6

    As far as .30 Caliber being made popular in North America rather than Europe, I think you are forgetting The British Empires use of the 303 British from 1895 until the fall of empire in the 1950s

    • @lib556
      @lib556 5 лет назад +2

      I wouldn't necessarily say "fall of the Empire" more like the introduction and forced acceptance of 7.62 NATO in the late 50s (still a .30 cal anyway). They also state early on that Russians weren't using .30 cal until '49 onwards....huh? 7.62 x 54 was in use in the 1890s!

  • @DigitalHaze65536
    @DigitalHaze65536 9 лет назад

    I like that he mentioned Cartridges of the World. It's so informative it'd cover almost any question you'd ever have on cartridges. Not only ballistics, but the history of the cartridge and it's effectiveness/uses are mentioned in the book. It even has obsolete cartridge sections.

  • @joehunt1980
    @joehunt1980 9 лет назад +8

    Eric, Ray please do some research on what the actual Bore and Groove Diameter of a rifled barrel is.
    .30 calibre pertains to the Bore size of the barrel ie the barrel is machined to .300" (7.62mm), which within tolerances, this is exactly the same between American and European .30 or 7.62 Calibre Rifled Barrels.
    Where the main difference is when they cut rifling grooves into each side of the "Bore"
    American barrels have .004" rifling groove into each side of the "Bore" which when added together will give the Barrel a .308"/7.82mm "Groove Diameter" and this is where you get the .308" projectile diameter.
    European .30/7.62 Barrels on the other hand have between .005" and .0055" (and sometimes more which equates for the massive Groove diameters on some barrels)
    which will give them a "Groove Diameter" of .310-.311 (7.87-7.9mm) which is why they use Projectile diameters to match.
    .303 British on the other hand is not a true .30 calibre as the "Bore" is as its name suggests .303" but uses a .310" diameter bullet, the same as the other European cartridges.
    I think the main reason Calibre designations are all over the place is way back when smooth bore firearms were prevalent, they would use a Projectile that is matched to the actual "Bore" diameter of the barrel and thus the Calibre designation was the same as the Bore diameter.
    Rifled barrels on the other hand generally use a Projectile that is larger than the "Bore" diameter and are matched to the "Groove" diameter which makes the Projectile diameter significantly larger than the Calibre designation.

    • @loquat4440
      @loquat4440 6 лет назад +1

      Thanks Joehunt for putting it right. I enjoy greatly the 8888 videos, but at times they are quite loose with terminology. I will add a major benefit of larger groove diameters is even with a lot of use, corrosion, and wear, such barrels for military purposes perform adequately. The russians have been using 7.62 nomenclature for their small arms since at least the 1890's and the mosin rifle has been around since 1891. The same for their handgun until they adopted 9mm makarov which is actually a little larger than 9mm. (Bullet diameter 9.27 mm (0.365 in). Previous to that their pistols and SMG used the 7.62x25 cartridge that replaced the 7.62 nagant revolver cartridge that dated from the 1890's. The russians used the 7.62 designation for their small arms cartridges more than anyone else.

  • @kirkboswell2575
    @kirkboswell2575 5 лет назад

    I really enjoy these videos. I can sit back and say "yep", or "but what about", or " you forgot......x........". Makes for a thoroughly enjoyable few minutes, and almost makes for a good bull session around the campfire.
    I've commented elsewhere about cartridge names, and how those names sometimes have only a loose connection to the cartridge itself. This started with the very first cartridges during the conversion from black powder. My usual example for initiation of a discussion is the 36 caliber revolver. While those black powder muzzle loaders had a nominal 36 caliber barrel, the cylinders had 0.375 to .380 chamber mouths. Conversion cartridges were made to fit the cylinders and the first ones used heeled bullets (like 22's) in straight wall cases. This first cartridge was called a 38 - which it was. Outside lubrication of the bullets caused many issues so the bullets were shrunk to fit inside the case. Dirt and grit issues solved, but the bullets were now 0.357 diameter. No, they didn't change the name. Everyone knew it was a 38, and by golly, it was going to be called a 38. When S&W formally launched the 357, they needed a way to distinguish it from the standard 38, so they named it for the barrel diameter. And a whole new era of cartridge naming was launched, just don't forget that there are still all those original cartridges out there.
    Toss into the mix the use of bore diameter naming (prior to rifling), vs bore diameter naming after rifling, and add the mix of European cartridges. Quite frankly, this is a subject that can fuel many a winter evenings discussion.
    Its confusing on the surface, but there was and is a logical reason for the names of every cartridge.

  • @suavegunman3325
    @suavegunman3325 9 лет назад +4

    Very informative, I always wondered what the whole "X" thing meant in cartridge designations

  • @Aries12323
    @Aries12323 9 лет назад

    Next man can, you need a Shirt with Rays face. That says " Absolutely." A very smooth speaker and a bank of knowledge. I could learn so much from Ray.

  • @NOLATAC
    @NOLATAC 9 лет назад +18

    Outstanding video. This is a must see for my entire range and gun store staff.

    • @myidentityisnotimportantor1261
      @myidentityisnotimportantor1261 9 лет назад

      NOLATAC What's the name of your gun store and where is it located?

    • @hisnameisiam808
      @hisnameisiam808 8 лет назад

      +I embalm you 66 with a name like that, you expect him to reply? lol

    • @myidentityisnotimportantor1261
      @myidentityisnotimportantor1261 8 лет назад

      Hisnameis IAM
      My name? It's simply my profession. It required a lot of hard, intensive schooling, plus apprenticeship. I have been shooting and collecting firearms for most of my life and I was taught from an early age how to be safe and responsible with them. Even though I have a CCW permit, a nice arsenal, and carry most everywhere I go, I'm about the last person anyone other than a violent thug would need to fear with my guns.

    • @hisnameisiam808
      @hisnameisiam808 8 лет назад

      Ok, lol, your name is quite alarming. Sorry, glad you're proud of the career you have chosen. I appreciate you. I am glad you are exercising your right. I wish I could more, I am a similar mindset - the least likely to shoot someone unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

    • @myidentityisnotimportantor1261
      @myidentityisnotimportantor1261 8 лет назад

      Hisnameis IAM
      Thank you buddy. Why are you unable to exercise your 2nd amendment rights like you want? Do you live in a restrictive state or country? Oh, and my choice of profession is simply for the money, it pays quite well, especially when you co-own your business. I don't have a burning desire to handle corpses. And I too own firearms in the hopes that I never have to use them in anger. It's nice to be prepared and not be a victim. :)

  • @Ayrton4everrr
    @Ayrton4everrr 6 лет назад

    Why have I been watching this channel for the past 6 years? Cause its the best non bullshit, straight to the point guns channel. Thanks!

  • @WooWoo854
    @WooWoo854 9 лет назад +3

    Thank you for growing the awesome Barry beard Ray, in his memory!!! looks bitchin'

  • @whosmanisdis
    @whosmanisdis 7 лет назад

    Just realized how fucking awsome it woulda been if more teachers where like ray ,my favorite class was always HISTORY cuz of my awsome teachers that where like ray so just imagine that cool ,calm,clear spoken attitude WITH SPOONFULLS OF GUN HISTORY an random gun facts would be in a math class

  • @m1shadow
    @m1shadow 9 лет назад +6

    Very good video!! Though i knew most of this stuff, it was interesting to hear how you explained it.. could not have explained better myself. I did learn something new though about what you said about how the .300 win mag was in a way developed earlier then it is known for. Looking forward to your .22 video.

  • @BCMr27
    @BCMr27 4 года назад

    Just now watching in 2020. The most recent comments are four years old. Better late than never! Would love to spend a day on the range with everyone from Moss Pawn.

  • @lennycalderwood4136
    @lennycalderwood4136 9 лет назад +5

    That was enjoyable, thank you

  • @Pro2AGuy
    @Pro2AGuy 9 лет назад

    These two Gents have that rare ability to discuss what to many is a complicated matter (at least myself as I know only a lot about ballistics that I own) and make it completely understandable to the 'layman' so to speak. Can't imagine how freaking neat a long extended 'Happy Hour" with these guys might be...

  • @AlphaNova888
    @AlphaNova888 8 лет назад +7

    what about the 300 savage? i have a model 99 that ive hunted with all my life. i love the round...

    • @u.m.9931
      @u.m.9931 3 года назад

      And the 32 calibers, like 7.65 mauser, and the 32 acp

  • @claudiomelo5711
    @claudiomelo5711 9 лет назад

    I never saw a discussion more substancial about these issues. Very pedagogical. Great.

  • @Ironrider88
    @Ironrider88 9 лет назад +11

    Did you just drag Ray out of the woods before this video? He looks mildly Irritated to have been woken! Enjoyed the video, would like to see Ray in more, very easy to listen to.

  • @EntryLevelLuxury
    @EntryLevelLuxury 3 года назад

    I love how the mosin example is from a paper pouch... I used to get those for 2.99 (20 rounds) at my local gun store in Stockton.

  • @powercr250
    @powercr250 8 лет назад +3

    Please compare the 7.62x51 to the 308
    Or 5.56 to 223

  • @wjcorbin872
    @wjcorbin872 9 лет назад

    A great video that explains the majority of popular .30 cal cartridges. I own several rifles that fire .30 cal ranging from my 1942 M1 Garand to a Chinese SKS to a Ruger SR-762 rifle and several others. I love them all! Fantastic caliber!

  • @karlhayman6785
    @karlhayman6785 7 лет назад +15

    Wouldn't trade my 30.30 marlin for nothing , it's been my left for 30 some years

    • @danielaramburo7648
      @danielaramburo7648 4 года назад +2

      3030 does meet most needs of the average gun owner. For self defense, hunting... for plinking? I’m not sure 3030 is priced cheap enough to be a plinker.

    • @TTime685
      @TTime685 4 года назад +3

      Just inherited a 3030 Marlin from my girlfriends granddad, great gun! Love it

    • @m118lr
      @m118lr 3 года назад +1

      @@danielaramburo7648 nahhh..NOT plinking, hunting & SD for sure

  • @Targa2Tasmania
    @Targa2Tasmania 9 лет назад

    You guys are actually better than TV. greetz from Belgium

  • @bestmillimeter1858
    @bestmillimeter1858 7 лет назад +9

    *30 CALIBER MAGAZINE CLIP IN HALF A SECOND*

  • @howardburakof4364
    @howardburakof4364 9 лет назад

    While in the Air Force in the 50's. We were trained with the 30 cal carbines. Great light weapon.

  • @greywolfarmory7336
    @greywolfarmory7336 9 лет назад +14

    Lets just make this simple. Caliber is the measure of the diameter of the bullet (not the casing) in ten-thousandths of an inch -- US measurements. It is not a measure of lethality or even the length of the round. It's only bearing on case size is in the mouth of the case where the bullet is inserted.
    25 minutes condensed to three sentences.....

    • @Cyberhacker3
      @Cyberhacker3 9 лет назад +1

      Grey Wolf Armory Measure of lethality ??? that looks like English except that I didn't understand any of it.

    • @mrbadx19
      @mrbadx19 9 лет назад +2

      Grey Wolf Armory that would be "thousandths of an inch" ten-thousandths would be 4 decimal places.

    • @greywolfarmory7336
      @greywolfarmory7336 9 лет назад +1

      mr bad example Apparently you don't have any knowledge of machining or use of a caliper for measurement...and that's okay. Not everyone understands how measurements are represented in machining; it's not noted like basic math. So here's your free mini-lesson in machining for the day:
      In machining inches are divided into one thousand equal segments. When you take a measurement those segments are added together into a sum represented as thousandths of an inch. So ten-thousandths of an inch is notated as .010". Caliber is a representation of this measurement in terms of the diameter of a bullet. So .30 caliber is three hundred thousandths of an inch (.300") .32 caliber is three hundred and twenty thousandths of an inch, etc.

    • @mrbadx19
      @mrbadx19 9 лет назад +6

      Grey Wolf Armory you moron, i've been a QC inspector for 8 years using calipers and micrometers, .010 is one onehundreth of an inch! .001 is a thousandth and .0001 is a ten thousandth! i was a draftsman for 12 year prior, i think you're a fucking idiot and you just proved it!

    • @Cyberhacker3
      @Cyberhacker3 9 лет назад

      Grey Wolf Armory Just for fun , I decided to look it up and bad example is absolutely correct, , , , , , A thousandth of an inch is a derived unit of length in an inch-based system of units. Equal to 0.001 inches,

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 9 лет назад

    What else can be said; you've given 'most' of us what we didn't think to ask, perhaps. I, for one, always wanted to know just what is a .30 caliber . Now I know.
    Thanks, Ray & Eric.

  • @RobertBeveridge53
    @RobertBeveridge53 9 лет назад +3

    yes this is a good vid, and it is good to see you back on you tube.

    • @RichardHargon1954
      @RichardHargon1954 9 лет назад

      Enjoyed the vid, look forward to your 22 caliber segment!!!

    • @RobertBeveridge53
      @RobertBeveridge53 9 лет назад

      yes IV8888 has a great channel, and Ray is, the best G.S, it is good to see them back on you tube for sure.

  • @ShawarmaFarmer
    @ShawarmaFarmer 9 лет назад +1

    I was once lost, now i'm found again. Nice video, cartridge capacities, similar bore size, different bullets, very comprehensive.

  • @rjlee3112
    @rjlee3112 9 лет назад +5

    7.62 is .30cal.
    7.62mm = 0.3 inches.
    The bullet/bore diameter differences arise from the way the diameter is measured.
    There is nothing confusing about the European dimensions, A x B is far more informative than just A.

  • @darrell3391
    @darrell3391 9 лет назад

    I have said it before but will say it again, Ray has a no nonsense practical way of explaining things that is a pleasure to listen and learn, thanks Ray and Iraqveteran8888, Chad as well.

  • @apozki9773
    @apozki9773 7 лет назад +5

    what about 7.62 by 54r

  • @jakesgreat
    @jakesgreat 9 лет назад

    This needed to be done so bad. I can't even begin to count how many times I tried to explain to new gun owners the difference between a 300 win mag and a 300 wby mag. Keep updating the awesome videos guys.!!!!

  • @RusZugunder
    @RusZugunder 9 лет назад +36

    As Russian, i still very confused with the whole ammo classification thing you Americans having.

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 9 лет назад +8

      RusZugunder You think that's bad? Wait till you get into paint. There's probably a couple dozen shades of white and the reason is the same. Originally manufacturers wanted to be unique and that was touched on in this video. They wanted people to buy their ammo for their weapon. With a few exceptions now, it's about commonality.

    • @RusZugunder
      @RusZugunder 9 лет назад +11

      Gain Medium no, i get that it's in inches. It just seem to me not very consistent, it's relatively easy when you see say .308, .45 or .223 to understand that it's simply bullet diameter in inches. Confusion begins when you see some numbers with seemingly random letters next to it (just imagine yourself in place of foreigner who just begun to learn language, have hard time with some strange measurement system and know nothing of your ammo classification) like .50 BMG or .300 BLK. Then for your unprepaired mind start to pop up things like 556, written like i just wrote, you think like "oh that must be very huge bullet" nope apparently it's just 5.56x45 (not saying that 556 is official classification, so can't complain about that, but people seems to use it alot), or say .30-06... what? and etc. I'm not bashing on anybody i'm just saying from my perspective Russian classification (it's not only Russian i know) a tad bit more clear and logical to me. Where for basically anything, with exeption of shotguns and heavy artillery, you get [bullet diameter in mm] x [case lenght in mm]. Ray saying it's not enough information - c'mon guy, it's more information than just bullet diameter in inches :D jk anyway, sorry for me ranting about nothing, just sharing my pov no hate or anything.

    • @justinglock20
      @justinglock20 9 лет назад +1

      RusZugunder It can be confusing at times, you must pay very close attention to detail. .308 is the diameter of American .30 caliber, but it is also part of the name of certain .30 cal cartridges such as the .308 Winchester or .308 Norma Magnum. The name following the number is very important.
      To make matters worse, some cartridges have multiple names, like the .300 Blackout, it is also known as the .300 Whisper.

    • @gunnaraw
      @gunnaraw 9 лет назад

      Gain Medium Cartridge names should always be considered as model names. One should not try to figure out the bullet diameter from the cartridge name. E.g. 256 Winchester Magnum uses .257" bullets whereas 256 Newton uses .264" bullets.

    • @gunnaraw
      @gunnaraw 9 лет назад +1

      RusZugunder There isn't a single cartridge that has been standardized, by CIP or SAAMI, that has a namne that begins with an American decimal point (i.e. a dot). People write .300 BLK but the name is actually 300BLK.
      From the "300 AAC BLACKOUT Frequently Asked Questions":
      "A: SAAMI markings must be used. The actual cartridge name is 300 AAC BLACKOUT or 300 AAC Blackout. Notice there is no "." before the 300 (SAAMI cartridges do not begin with a decimal). The official SAAMI short name is 300 BLK. 300 Blackout and 300 AAC are not allowed."

  • @gonzalezgrant
    @gonzalezgrant 8 лет назад +1

    I really like this channel... you guys don't miss anything

  • @TheJustin574
    @TheJustin574 9 лет назад +5

    Why is Eric's holster empty?!

    • @PyrotechnicMailman
      @PyrotechnicMailman 9 лет назад +2

      Kel tec ps9 in it -haha

    • @22640cal
      @22640cal 9 лет назад +10

      PyrotechnicMailman So ya, its basically empty lol ;)

    • @quentinfoegelle2293
      @quentinfoegelle2293 9 лет назад

      I was looking for someone to figure that out in the comments

    • @Shadow0fd3ath24
      @Shadow0fd3ath24 9 лет назад

      He's got 5 holsters with glock 17s, he just hides the well...haha just kidding!

    • @FreeForAllFreak
      @FreeForAllFreak 9 лет назад +4

      TheJustin574 He's carrying a ghost gun

  • @colmhain
    @colmhain 9 лет назад +1

    Maybe it's because I was raised up with guns and my dad reloaded, but these concepts have never confused me. I's a little shocking that some gun enthusiasts can be confused by this. In that case, THANKS FOR SHARING!

  • @JustinDragonClaw
    @JustinDragonClaw 9 лет назад +67

    BAN 30 CALIBER CLIPS

    • @LEECHESANDCREAM
      @LEECHESANDCREAM 9 лет назад +11

      Justin Ryan You from California or something?

    • @JustinDragonClaw
      @JustinDragonClaw 9 лет назад +15

      It's a joke

    • @LEECHESANDCREAM
      @LEECHESANDCREAM 9 лет назад +3

      So am me friend, I is also.

    • @everythingexpert4795
      @everythingexpert4795 9 лет назад +8

      No, you really got to look out for automatic sniper assault weapons

    • @sliceofcheese3890
      @sliceofcheese3890 9 лет назад +12

      it's the 30 assault magazine assault clips that go in the AK 47 that shoot 47 clips in a second that need to be banned

  • @outlander330cc
    @outlander330cc 9 лет назад +1

    Please do more videos like this! I love historic informational videos like this that Don't bore you to death like most.

  • @lopaka1941
    @lopaka1941 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome RUclips on 30 cailbers, learned a lot from your vass knowledge of information. I was a 30-06
    and 30-30 rifle hunter at one time. I have now gone over to AR-15's and have 300 black out 223/5.56
    rifles. I also have 460 Rowland and 38 Super carbine rifles. My shoulder can handle the recoil a lot better.

  • @MrBillybooth
    @MrBillybooth 3 года назад

    Holy Geez! One of the best videos I've ever seen. I guess Ray isn't with y'all anymore. But I sure wish he was my neighbor. What a wealth of interesting information. Thanks!

  • @reginaldscot165
    @reginaldscot165 9 лет назад +1

    This video made me think of Barry, he always used to explain different types of amo in fine detail. I miss his videos. Good work guys.

  • @transamlover50259
    @transamlover50259 9 лет назад

    Watching this video makes me feel a lot better about my $150 Arisaka in .308 Winchester

  • @LeiserSchleicher
    @LeiserSchleicher 9 лет назад

    I had the opportunity to shoot .303 British with a No. IV Mk I. Great experience!

  • @MurrayEstes
    @MurrayEstes 3 года назад

    Growing up the only bullet I remember was the 30 06.... now I have a lot of fun with my pellet gun here in Hawaii.
    64 year old Surfer CPA

  • @grahamclarke1934
    @grahamclarke1934 9 лет назад

    As a Brit, I am pleased you mentioned the 303 round, as I did not know if
    that it was is in the same category as the others. Thank you for the information. (Please keep uploading your videos as I like them, thank you.)

  • @UI_Shaggy05
    @UI_Shaggy05 3 года назад +2

    Ya'll missed the best .308 diameter round! - 30-378 Weatherby Magnum (7.62x74B), most powerful 30 cal!

  • @themanfromtheeast2048
    @themanfromtheeast2048 9 лет назад

    hi guys i'm Aiham from Iraq and i want to say that i just love your channel and all the videos you make. this video was very educational i learned a lot about different cartridges and finally i understand what 308 means because here in Iraq we use the European way of naming the cartridges and mostly the Russian. i really wish you guys would make a video about the 7.62x39 alone.

  • @rfcarlson1
    @rfcarlson1 9 лет назад

    Please... more Ray videos. When a guy with his knowledge and skills starts talking you have to just be quite and listen. Especially like his gunsmithing videos.

  • @powaybob45
    @powaybob45 9 лет назад

    Ray is cool because he is almost as big as I am. This is a video I watched without doing a fast forward. Good job.

  • @yeahno1016
    @yeahno1016 9 лет назад

    If the guy on the left had a weekly class for $25 were you sit cross leg on the floor and listen in ahhhh I would be there every time. Both of you are extremely knowledgable and thank you for making a very new gun collector/hunter/plinker a little more confident that the info is out there. . In 29 years when I have a little grasp of all things weapons I will NEVER be the gun shop guy who makes you feel stupid and self conscious about buying a gun anywhere for being new to shooting.

  • @andrewt248
    @andrewt248 9 лет назад

    Ray's got the Griz Adams thing going on. Dig it.

  • @dustyrusty7956
    @dustyrusty7956 9 лет назад

    My favorite 30 cal ammo is the 7.62x25 Tokarev....and Ray is a terrific "get".

  • @vole12
    @vole12 9 лет назад

    The new presenter is worth listening to . Good guy . Thank you .

  • @drfeeelgoood5815
    @drfeeelgoood5815 8 лет назад +2

    Yeah .30 caliber is very popular here in Canada and that is my preferred round l.

  • @NeilT3485
    @NeilT3485 9 лет назад

    Hi Eric & Ray excellent video guys very heplful for us Brits too that are new to shooting or do not know about the different sizes of bullets in various calibres. I have been reloading for 15+ years. Keep up the good work.

  • @TheJoel3803
    @TheJoel3803 9 лет назад

    I was shooting 7.5 Swiss earlier. Specifically the Sig 510, K30 and the "Standardgewehr". Also the Sig 550 and a Sig Sauer 220. Happy days.

  • @birddog7492
    @birddog7492 4 года назад

    I loved what you guy's had to say about the MM guns of Europe like 7.62 X 25MM this helps people make since of these rounds. However you could have machined the 45-70 was a 45 cal round using seventy grains of black powder. and the 32-40 was a 32 cal using forty grains of black powder.

  • @geoffflato6065
    @geoffflato6065 8 лет назад +1

    The one thing I have to say is that Russia didn't just adopt 30 caliber with the 7.62x39. The 7.62x54r and 7.62x38 nagant revolver were 30 caliber too.
    Also, pretty much the entire British Commonwealth had the 303 British as by far the most common round (civilian and military) short of the 22 rimfire. As far as Europe though, you're right about 30 caliber being rather uncommon in comparison.

  • @rickmansberger4136
    @rickmansberger4136 7 лет назад

    Hi, I watched all the Firearms dacts in a marathon session. Besides enjoying Barry, this series was very educational on many levels.
    You need to bring this series back. I enjoy Gun Gripes but I learned many things from Fiearm Facts.
    Keep up the great videos. Miss Barry, he was a true original.
    Rick out

  • @Outland9000
    @Outland9000 8 лет назад

    One of, if not the most informative firearms channel on youtube.

  • @TheDuckofDoom.
    @TheDuckofDoom. 8 лет назад

    In some countries caliber refers to the relative length of the barrel. Especially in reference to large guns(artillery) that is 30 caliber would be a barrel length of 30 diameters. "high caliber" would refer to artillery meant for flat long distance shots, med caliber for terrain with obstacles like trees(higher trajectory), and low caliber tends to be morters.

  • @tdb922f
    @tdb922f 2 года назад

    "The weirder it is and the more obscure it is the more I want it". Hell, I'm rewatching this years after I first saw it just because I'm about to built a rifle in 311 win mag!
    I'll see if I can bring it over for you guys to look at, but you're a bit famous these days 😀

  • @pepeledog
    @pepeledog 9 лет назад

    I know absolutely nothing about bullets so this was extremely informative to me. I have always found talk about ammo confusing. This helped a great deal. Thanks!!!

  • @slypperyfox
    @slypperyfox 8 лет назад

    Just finished the "Understanding the 22 caliber" video and I do like these video series. One of the biggest problems is the US use of the royal nomenclature of calibers (in inches) and the European use of the metric nomenclature (millimeters). Once you get past this fact it does become easier to follow what you need to know. I would also like future videos to cover the "two numbers" nomenclature: like the 22-250. It took me a while to gather that you were trying to describe the projectile size/weight and the weight of powder used.
    And, I agree, I like Ray's attentiveness to what needs to be said and in what order to present info. Eric does seem to jump in and talk over his cohost and his comments tend to fly all over the place and not in the order if what the topic of discussion is.

  • @Sizukun1
    @Sizukun1 9 лет назад

    Welcome back everybody, this is Eric, Ray, and Ray's beard. That thing is seriously a character on its own!

  • @dougwatches
    @dougwatches 9 лет назад

    Just....wow. Always thought .30 was .30 cal. Fascinating material, and well worth the time listened to (there are other channels that will post a 2 minute video, and I want that time back. Not this one.)

  • @stevem4633
    @stevem4633 9 лет назад

    Having Ray in a video is a GREAT firearm information video. Love his gunsmithing videos. You need to get him out of the Bat Cave more often. This is one of the best gun channels on RUclips.

  • @LRoutdoorsmen
    @LRoutdoorsmen 9 лет назад

    Dang. Did anyone else think he was going to say "Eric and berry" man I miss that great guy. Good video Eric.

  • @LHG921
    @LHG921 9 лет назад +2

    Ray gets my endorsement. Great video guys. Thank you for the history lessons. I enjoy videos like this where bits of gun/cartridge history is shared. I feel like I learned something. These are the best videos, entertaining plus informative.

  • @ultimentra
    @ultimentra 9 лет назад

    As someone who's knowledge about ammunition is limited this video is great, please keep going! I can't wait for the next one.

  • @jstarnes3391
    @jstarnes3391 7 лет назад

    Thanks for giving me a better understanding of the complex and convoluted .22 caliber family of munitions.

  • @adamsowers8957
    @adamsowers8957 9 лет назад

    Ray is awesome. There's a guy you want on your side of the battlefield. Him and Eric.

  • @donaldbarrier5806
    @donaldbarrier5806 5 лет назад

    30 40 krag was developed in a doctor before San Juan Hill. it was used in Cuba as well as the 45 70. The 30 caliber Springfield cartridge was developed from the 7 by 57 Mauser being its parent cartridge. correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @keithlucas6260
    @keithlucas6260 7 лет назад

    I have reloading manuals from the turn of the century with lots of calibers from many manufactures around the globe. One key note on bullet diameter and the firearm it's used for is whether they use the major diameter of the rifling, or it's root diameter as a designation. For example I also have a .303 British Enfield which uses a .311 diameter bullet. It's called a .303 because the root diameter of the rifling is .303 which was the reamer size after it was drilled. If you have a set of machinist gauge pins in increments of .001 you can use them to check this, or if you have a friend who owns a shop same thing, as they are precision ground to be perfectly​ round and to size. Note: drill bits are not exactly round and precision. As for major diameter, you would want to slug the barrel.