How Far Will a 12 Gauge Shotgun Kill?

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    In this video we test various 12ga shotgun loads to determine their maximum range of effectiveness. We put birdshot, buckshot, slugs and Barry's old favorite Cutshells to the test from a Benelli m2 and had some very interesting results that you'll want to stick around for.
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  • @johndoeing
    @johndoeing 8 лет назад +1939

    no-gun euro here, great video! learned a lot about the different loads a shutgun shoots.
    you guys are so lucky to have this right, please cherish and protect it.

    • @RSpracticalshooting
      @RSpracticalshooting 8 лет назад +288

      we're fucking trying but people keep fighting to take these rights away.

    • @digital4282
      @digital4282 8 лет назад +89

      Right. It's so unbelievable to me.

    • @Drarraj
      @Drarraj 8 лет назад +141

      We're trying our best. Thanks for your support.

    • @anhk_yt
      @anhk_yt 8 лет назад +22

      someone says this to milk the likes on every fucking video youre probably from texas hahaha

    • @johndoeing
      @johndoeing 8 лет назад +82

      +Anhk94 I've never commented on a video from this channel. Also I'm Dutch.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 3 года назад +846

    All I know is when things fall apart the absolute best weapon to have on hand is a shotgun.

    • @Blando7887
      @Blando7887 2 года назад +48

      gonna have to agree with you there

    • @trulyinfamous
      @trulyinfamous 2 года назад +56

      They are the most versatile, and they aren't too picky with what you load in them.

    • @SuperBikerboy101
      @SuperBikerboy101 2 года назад +38

      ID argue an AK is better but thats just me. I do however absolutely love shotguns they're my favorite to shoot

    • @ronwhittaker6317
      @ronwhittaker6317 2 года назад +49

      if there isn't a once of lead left on the planet shotguns don't care. a handful of classified pebbles hurt just as bad.

    • @trevormiles5852
      @trevormiles5852 2 года назад +24

      Been there done that, best thing is a pair a good running boots. Never get boots you can not run in.

  • @disillusioned070
    @disillusioned070 11 месяцев назад +15

    Going on 20 years ago while a small arms instructor in the Navy I walked in a volley of rifled slug on a 16x16 plate at 300yds from a standard issue Mossberg 500. The first two hit low but successively closer with the next three all hitting the plate. Me and my fellow instructors were all pretty impressed with the rounds accuracy.

  • @chrisnedbalek2866
    @chrisnedbalek2866 2 года назад +160

    1:00 @ 15 yds
    3:23 birdshot closer (standoff range)
    4:53 buckshot @ 50 yds
    7:24 @ 100 yds
    11:28 @ 200 yds
    20:39 @ 300 yds
    24:00 @ 400 yds

    • @LioDeChurro
      @LioDeChurro 2 года назад +4

      Do you know the length of the barrel on that benelli?

    • @videogazer801
      @videogazer801 2 года назад +4

      @@LioDeChurro the barrel length is 32 inches

    • @learnshareevolve1842
      @learnshareevolve1842 Год назад

      Comments state that is a 32" barrel... Is that correct?

    • @etendard1114
      @etendard1114 Год назад

      lol no@@learnshareevolve1842

    • @matthewvassoff5736
      @matthewvassoff5736 Год назад

      You need more practice, any retard can hit a 1' circle at 100 yds.
      Practice Putz, 20 rounds a week minimum.🎯

  • @gregs8692
    @gregs8692 2 года назад +99

    My grandfather was grown and had a family to provide for back during the depression. He taught me about cut shells when I got my first single shot 12 ga. Back before the internet even existed.

    • @dasun13
      @dasun13 Год назад +5

      The internet ain't that old.. all your doing is telling us your 20

    • @dmining65
      @dmining65 Год назад +1

      @@dasun13😂

    • @Aprenda_com_Questões
      @Aprenda_com_Questões Год назад

      The internet became popular around 1995. Not sure if you are trolling or just not that good at math@@dasun13

    • @wll1500
      @wll1500 Год назад +10

      ​@@dasun13 the internet in its commercial form has been part of society since the early 90s, so actually 30 years.

    • @timmynormand8082
      @timmynormand8082 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@dasun13 that's rite been cutting shells for 50 plus yrs

  • @bobkin611
    @bobkin611 7 лет назад +71

    r.i.p. Berry Elliot we miss your old badass grandpa attitude.and he seemed like a genuinely good guy. and thanks for the old trick with the cut shells. I love em.

    • @nicecutie
      @nicecutie 3 года назад +1

      the guy in the video died?

    • @bobkin611
      @bobkin611 3 года назад +10

      @@nicecutie No, sir. There is an older video with a gentleman named Berry. He originally introduced us, people like me who didn't know of the trick, to the idea of "cut shell".

  • @leoromp6385
    @leoromp6385 6 лет назад +92

    I appreciate you and Barry sharing cut shells with us. I've had a lot of fun with them since! They actually go through the same hole as previously shot foster slugs at 50 yards!

    • @1busrider
      @1busrider 2 года назад

      Were do you cut the shell at,i want to try them in my pump 12 ga.

    • @c.joelummus8880
      @c.joelummus8880 2 года назад +1

      I would not be using cut shells in a full choke I would be using wax shells instead

    • @timmynormand8082
      @timmynormand8082 2 года назад

      Cut it where the BBs start. On top of the wad not quite through the plastic

    • @chesterswortham5197
      @chesterswortham5197 2 года назад +1

      How do you make a cut shell out of a birdshot load

    • @timmynormand8082
      @timmynormand8082 2 года назад +1

      @@chesterswortham5197 I would cut almost through the plastic where the wad an bb meet just below

  • @johnanderson3405
    @johnanderson3405 Год назад +13

    Absolutely awesome video. My favorite shotgun ammunition test ever. My father showed me the cut shell technique when I was just a kid. He killed many whitetail with them. Turning a bird load into a slug is fantastic! Thank you for the great testing!❤

  • @MrDidaxi
    @MrDidaxi 6 лет назад +23

    Man! The last trial was i-n-s-a-n-e! Almost 20 meters above the target an aim, in order to get almost spot-on the target. That was a great vid. Cheers!

  • @YanDoroshenko
    @YanDoroshenko 8 лет назад +652

    This videos should be called "Guns will kill the shit out of you at almost any distance. Do not get shot".

    • @anhk_yt
      @anhk_yt 8 лет назад +23

      guns are good at killing shit at least weve figured that one out now

    • @chandlerfrazier
      @chandlerfrazier 8 лет назад +3

      +Anhk94 and destroying shit

    • @alephkasai9384
      @alephkasai9384 8 лет назад +4

      Guns are definitely good at killing and destroying shit but we haven't figured out if guns are good at destroying and killing people

    • @loripop8554
      @loripop8554 8 лет назад +2

      Is he sick

    • @frostwolfairsoft7614
      @frostwolfairsoft7614 8 лет назад

      +Thoma Reg

  • @Highjak86
    @Highjak86 8 лет назад +484

    Coming from a "no rifle" deer hunting state I really enjoyed this one. I follow the philosophy that if it can kill a deer it can kill a human target just as easy or easier. We've taken deer out to 210 yards with 20ga sabot loads. My personal record is 180 yards with a 12ga sabot. Shotgun lethality is no joke especially when you have the optics and DOPE to back up the shots.

    • @southerniowahunter6998
      @southerniowahunter6998 8 лет назад +14

      Highjak86 what state you out of? Iowa is the same way so I enjoyed this video as well.

    • @Highjak86
      @Highjak86 8 лет назад +8

      SouthernIowa Hunter Iowa as well. :)

    • @TVCColin
      @TVCColin 7 лет назад

      Delaware checking in.

    • @Bananahammock88
      @Bananahammock88 7 лет назад +35

      Highjak86 wow!!! Even here in commiefornia we can kill deer with a rifle! Maybe i jinxed us with that comment. 😫

    • @ZezimaTruth
      @ZezimaTruth 7 лет назад +10

      What’s DOPE ?

  • @5.56_Media
    @5.56_Media 2 года назад +60

    @Iraqveteran8888, I just got into the world of shot guns (outside naval service) and it really is a whole nother world of fire arms knowledge! Even though I am late to the scene, I really appreciate this video and the slew of other content you have put out. It really makes a difference and very educational.
    As always, thank you for your service and continued support for the people and Our God given Rights.

    • @davidfalcone4736
      @davidfalcone4736 11 месяцев назад

      I live in South Jersey we kill deer lots of them with buck shot 3 1/2 in 00 18 pellet Remington and 10 shot triple o Winchester 3 in will killdeer out to 100 yards plus if you elevate

    • @davidfalcone4736
      @davidfalcone4736 11 месяцев назад +1

      This guy needs some fresh cardboard can't tell where the f***he is hitting

  • @kevinsaulters6309
    @kevinsaulters6309 3 года назад +121

    A few years back I had no slugs while hunting for deer i tried a cut shell in my 20ga single shot and dropped a deer at 35 yards thanks mr.Barry we miss you bud

    • @no_handle_required
      @no_handle_required Год назад

      what a big man, can kill something that can't defend itself. 🖕

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Год назад +5

      Very irresponsible, my friend.

    • @tylertyler6418
      @tylertyler6418 Год назад +1

      Bro get to the store and buy slugs

    • @GarySaint-xm6tr
      @GarySaint-xm6tr Год назад +3

      Cool to know you have that backup option. It's hard to go wrong at that close a range, but beyond 50 would be desperation time only

    • @Interdiction
      @Interdiction 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@CorePathway People gotta eat

  • @tjschultz1269
    @tjschultz1269 7 лет назад +31

    Oh man I miss Barry. I learned so much from him. Great memorial Eric.

  • @leonhart2452
    @leonhart2452 3 года назад +10

    When I started hunting here in upstate NY about 50 years ago a fellow I hunted with had a Remington 870 Wingmaster 16 ga with a Weaver K4 scope on it. As he walked out of an apple orchard he saw. Deer out on a knoll. He laid down in the snow and threw a slug at that deer. When the rest of us caught up with him several of us counted our steps out to where the deer laid. We averaged our counts and came up with 425 steps of a bit over two feet each so almost 300 yards.
    He held the crosshairs well above the deer. High enough so the deers back was barely in the scope. Drilled it right through the spine.
    Even he said it was pretty much a scratch shot and didn't really think he could hit the deer but thought he'd try any way.
    Made good camp meat.

  • @garyrit6799
    @garyrit6799 2 года назад +95

    Back in the late 80's, I was deer hunting with my father. We got to the property and agreed to meet back to the truck at 11:00. I was hunting about 1/4 mile away, at about 10:45 I started back towards the truck. I was maybe halfway there when I heard a shotgun being fired. A couple of seconds buckshot was raining all around me, some were hitting trees and bouncing back into the trail. When I got to the truck, I asked him why he shot buckshot in the air. He said that a turkey was flying over. I told him that he almost hit me with it. Needless to say, that was the last time I ever went hunting with him.

    • @trevormiles5852
      @trevormiles5852 2 года назад +13

      Why ? Did you shoot him ?

    • @mryeet5148
      @mryeet5148 2 года назад

      @@trevormiles5852
      He just admitted to murder

    • @tomwolf8721
      @tomwolf8721 2 года назад +4

      Almost as bad as a public line hunt.

    • @Tiger0366
      @Tiger0366 2 года назад +34

      I don't understand why you guys would split up and not know where each other are, it seems as though you proved what can happen.

    • @leswalker2639
      @leswalker2639 2 года назад

      I just wonder what I would have done in that case. I think I would have tied him to a tree and cut a good switch about eight feet long and break it in half and throw away the top portion, and then!

  • @hunterxmen8966
    @hunterxmen8966 8 лет назад +394

    R.I.P Barry...miss your insights

  • @bmstylee
    @bmstylee 8 лет назад +334

    I thought we would never see cut shells again after Barry died. that made me happy.

    • @Sneak_1000
      @Sneak_1000 8 лет назад

      +Henrik Timm Christensen - 7B yeah

    • @nahgin14
      @nahgin14 8 лет назад +2

      +Henrik Timm Christensen - 7B who's Barry

    • @doghair5403
      @doghair5403 8 лет назад +25

      +nah gin Please look back at the early videos and see the most awesome beard ever. Oh and, he knew a lot about guns too.

    • @jesusp.6993
      @jesusp.6993 8 лет назад +1

      What happened to Barry?

    • @doghair5403
      @doghair5403 8 лет назад +25

      He passed away a couple of years ago. It was really sudden. I miss his fire.

  • @outdoorsgeek6603
    @outdoorsgeek6603 5 лет назад +33

    Watching on Memorial Day 2019. Thanks for the great video and information on different rounds. More importantly RIP Barry and thank you gentlemen for your service too our country.

  • @etd5791
    @etd5791 Год назад

    The first gun / shooting show on youtube that ive seen where the presenter speaks sense. No fooling around or acting stupid. U rock my man. Ive subscribed

  • @Suaga7
    @Suaga7 8 лет назад +659

    RIP Barry "CutShell" Elliott

    • @hamiltonmcgregory3179
      @hamiltonmcgregory3179 8 лет назад +7

      Suaga when did he pass? is there a video dedicated to him?

    • @ANONYMOUS-dl9mf
      @ANONYMOUS-dl9mf 8 лет назад +31

      Hamilton Mcgregory Barry passed away 04/12/14.

    • @wayneproctor9144
      @wayneproctor9144 8 лет назад +15

      John Turkington , rest in peace Barry you sure will be missed.

    • @nickhowatson4745
      @nickhowatson4745 8 лет назад +35

      Rodney, fuck you. show some respect.

    • @kylelab333221
      @kylelab333221 7 лет назад +13

      How was he a thief? Don't know the story here

  • @stunna1050
    @stunna1050 3 года назад +10

    Used to get ammo down there at the pawn shop. Loved talking to Barry ☺️
    The old wax shell videos are the best!

  • @geoben1810
    @geoben1810 2 года назад +10

    As someone who has limited experience with firearms, small cal rifles and different cal. handguns in boot camp, (non combat vet) and civilian life, I'm a fair shot at 50yds. This has been very informative. It's good to know what's effective at what range. I'd be interested in you demonstrating handguns and automatic rifles. Thanks and kudos to the cameraman, nice work! 👍😉🇺🇸

  • @CharlieDarling-k2b
    @CharlieDarling-k2b Месяц назад +1

    Several years ago I was pheasant hunting with a group of friends. I had always thought if I was at least 30 yards from someone, I’d likely survive if they accidentally shot me. A coyote jumped up, and it had to be at least 60 yards from a guy who fired a shot at it and rolled the animal over dead. I ask him what he had loaded in his gun, and he replied #6 (six) bird shot. I realize I’m significantly bigger than a coyote, but that moment significantly increased the distance of my comfort zone when I was around someone with a shotgun.

  • @TrikeRoadPoet
    @TrikeRoadPoet 6 лет назад +25

    I would LOVE to see a smooth-bore Musket vs modern shotgun going head to head for penetration, accuracy, and range! Really see what both the old gun and the new gun could do in a comparative standoff.

    • @samwilliams5283
      @samwilliams5283 3 года назад +2

      .690 round ball in a 12 gauge wad cup seems to be the modern equivalent of a musket.

  • @mbuchart2927
    @mbuchart2927 2 года назад +10

    I think of the ballistics of 12-gauge shotgun slugs as being similar to that of Brown Bess and similar muskets. I appreciate that there is a big difference between a 12-gauge Foster rifled slug and an old heavy .75-calibre lead ball. And yet they shoot similarly, I read somewhere that soldiers could take aimed shots up to 70-100 yards with the old military muskets but massed volleys were effective up to 300 yards. Well, that's kind of the results in the video. That's interesting.

  • @jasontaylor2940
    @jasontaylor2940 7 лет назад +27

    This is one of the most fun videos to watch I’ve seen in a long time. Do more! You could try different slugs, rifled vs smooth bore, optics...all kinds of cool options

    • @mikespence8956
      @mikespence8956 3 года назад

      SOID! A! SHOTGUN! (CUTSHELL)! IS! (DEADLY)! SOID! *MIKE! SPENCE! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!

  • @RochelleM491
    @RochelleM491 3 года назад +57

    I can most definitely appreciate the detailed, professional approach and homework presented in this video. Great production..!!!

  • @guillermomaguire5394
    @guillermomaguire5394 7 лет назад +10

    What a great video! You should look at the Aguila Minishell Birdshot round. It uses a cup wad, 5/8 oz, 7.5 birdshot. Due to the cup, the birdshot hits like a slug round up to about 6 yards...and no recoil. A friend made some similar rounds with some larger shot ..T shot etc. The cup wad made all the difference within 10 yards. A fully choked barrel did not have anywhere near the affect on close grouping than the cup wad.

  • @olivialambert4124
    @olivialambert4124 6 лет назад +16

    Barry and his cut shells were the reason I started watching this channel. Cut shells and wax shells featuring Barry's wisdom were my first two videos. I miss him too, its nice to think he lives on in all of us with his crazy knowledge and ideas.

    • @ef3345
      @ef3345 6 лет назад +2

      @Alex Butters Shut up and spread your cheeks.

    • @palaven4048
      @palaven4048 6 лет назад +2

      @Alex Butters Calm down virgin.

    • @NoName-sy3di
      @NoName-sy3di 6 лет назад +1

      Dont listen to these cancerous fuckbois, what happened to this barry guy

    • @Gray13475
      @Gray13475 6 лет назад +1

      @@NoName-sy3diHe passed away from an Acute Myocardial Infarction(sudden heart attack) on 04/12/2014. Barry was the other half of this channel at first. The older IV8888 videos are still up and look up: Gungripe #85 - Farewell.

  • @ObamaoZedong
    @ObamaoZedong 2 года назад +116

    To be fair, at 200 yards it's pretty tough to convince a jury of self defense.

    • @mikejohns3104
      @mikejohns3104 Год назад +6

      This presentation is representative of hunting situations and how one could expect various rounds to perform when trying to feed yourself, your family and neighbors.

    • @petermyers9442
      @petermyers9442 Год назад +2

      Which can it an offensive weapon as well

    • @drunknmarxist
      @drunknmarxist Год назад +3

      What's your point?

    • @itllkeal
      @itllkeal Год назад +13

      But he had a pocket knife

    • @timothyavendt677
      @timothyavendt677 Год назад +1

      ​@itllkeal
      Lol, throwing buckshot at someone 200 yarda away that carring a knife

  • @sisleymichael
    @sisleymichael 3 года назад

    OK, I watched this 3 years ago. I watched it again with the wife and my 30 year old son. They have been listening to me talk about shotguns for defense. Now they are motivated to go to the ranch with me and shoot shotguns. Progress! Nothing crazy, just some 00-buck at 15, 25, and 50. Can't wait!! They will literally have a blast.

  • @The20thCenturyLimited
    @The20thCenturyLimited 8 лет назад +591

    this was more suspenseful than the new walking dead season.

    • @michaelcain838
      @michaelcain838 8 лет назад +10

      The 20th Century Limited seriously I'm pretty disappointed. It's moving so slowly but I know i know once the climax hits it's going to be crazy!

    • @The20thCenturyLimited
      @The20thCenturyLimited 8 лет назад +2

      Michael Cain lol yep

    • @nathanealclark2638
      @nathanealclark2638 6 лет назад +3

      Starting season 8 right now!

    • @mikepo6042
      @mikepo6042 6 лет назад +3

      @@nathanealclark2638 season 9 now

    • @samuelz2214
      @samuelz2214 5 лет назад +3

      Mike Po season 10 second half now

  • @waynep8007
    @waynep8007 8 лет назад +137

    Badass Barry knows the secrets to making things extra lethal.

    • @ItsBodin
      @ItsBodin 8 лет назад +21

      Who isn't sad that badass man died?

    • @waynep8007
      @waynep8007 8 лет назад +14

      I didn't know Barry past away... Feels bad man

    • @ItsBodin
      @ItsBodin 8 лет назад

      Naethan Carter True XD Though berry could take her out from 1000+ yards blind!

    • @ItsBodin
      @ItsBodin 8 лет назад +1

      Amen to that

    • @atiliathefun1812
      @atiliathefun1812 8 лет назад

      When did he die?

  • @nemanjacvijancevic8349
    @nemanjacvijancevic8349 8 лет назад +616

    Eric you sound sick.
    I hope you'll get better soon

    • @Iraqveteran8888
      @Iraqveteran8888  8 лет назад +167

      No rest for the wicked...lol. Yeah I'm under the damn weather right now

    • @lucky43113
      @lucky43113 8 лет назад +23

      hope you feel better..Could you do a similar test with a 20ga no one ever seems to test it

    • @LudwigLeopard
      @LudwigLeopard 8 лет назад +2

      FeelsBadMan

    • @lucky43113
      @lucky43113 8 лет назад +28

      another idea top 5 guns to survive a riot

    • @johnpagdilao6075
      @johnpagdilao6075 8 лет назад +7

      +Iraqveteran8888 Nothing like a little shotgun action to make you feel better.

  • @brandonstews238
    @brandonstews238 Год назад +39

    Eric, thank you for all you do. Barry would be happy that his cutshell knowledge is being passed on.

    • @troydonahue9866
      @troydonahue9866 10 месяцев назад

      I should be happy

    • @troydonahue9866
      @troydonahue9866 10 месяцев назад

      life not bad

    • @troydonahue9866
      @troydonahue9866 10 месяцев назад

      I was born in 1993. itvfun watching these videos. You???

    • @troydonahue9866
      @troydonahue9866 10 месяцев назад

      this is a good video . I miss the old day for me . 2007-2009. And 2008. 2004-2005 were great miss . Good day going with friends . Places. I like these guns though he has a nice shot gun. Looks so cool.

  • @kordwilkinson
    @kordwilkinson 6 лет назад +54

    Rest In Peace Barry I really miss ya

  • @fasteddie4107
    @fasteddie4107 3 года назад +35

    Very cool video with useful analysis for making home defense protection decisions. Thank you for doing this and for sharing your findings. I am sure that the loads which work in your M2 will also work in my M4, but this will be fun to test and verify.

  • @tiggerr42431
    @tiggerr42431 8 лет назад +17

    Still miss Barry too. Cut shells I saw for the first time from his video. Very good video.

  • @Mallymal1914
    @Mallymal1914 2 года назад +2

    In the military I was taught if shooting pellets, aim lower (waist level) at the target because pellets disperses upward and wide with distance at standoff range.

  • @jnborawski
    @jnborawski 8 лет назад +6

    God bless Barry. Neat guy, I'm thankful for all the tips I learned from him through this channel. He sure is missed.

  • @DatGuy960
    @DatGuy960 3 года назад +12

    I hunt with a 12ga, bolt action, rifled barrel, 1-4x24 scope. I sighted 2" high @ 100yds. I'm dead on @ 150 and 1" low @ 200. My graduated reticle has allowed me to drop a deer @ 267yds, one shot, one kill. A rifled barrel, good optics and ammo will stretch the MER considerably.

    • @TheBigghunter01
      @TheBigghunter01 3 года назад +1

      Those sabot slugs out of a rifled barrel has about the same ballistics as most .50 muzzleloaders. Much better than the rifled slugs that were used in this video

  • @whatsreallygoingon253
    @whatsreallygoingon253 8 лет назад +56

    love barry may he rest in peace

  • @michaelcampbell3120
    @michaelcampbell3120 2 года назад

    On the battlefield I used them on close range but 40yrs was my max I was a m60/m230 gunner airbourne ranger 84-04 we were all 18 and 11bravo (18b weopon expert 11b infantry) we had to hit our targets well you get it its a diffrent atmosphere than target training targets don't shoot back love this show

  • @ОлегРадионов-ш8к
    @ОлегРадионов-ш8к 6 лет назад +14

    Thanks guys! That was extremly helpful to understand the nature of buckshots application in real life with medium distance. Thanks again and I hope you could test different kinds of shotguns with the same ammo both for fun and figuring out at which range they can be used.

  • @HerbWalker
    @HerbWalker 8 лет назад +4

    That Cut Shell that key holed would have hit in the "OH NO" region too!!!! :)
    (That feller would REALLY be confused about which bathroom to use!)
    At 400 yards,
    This old Army Scout thinks you're not shooting a 12gauge now ,but a 4.2 Mortar!! LOL "Fire Mission"

  • @mutantfmj
    @mutantfmj 2 года назад +33

    Just to let you know when we started DA and hostage rescue training back in 80s for Marine Recon, we used to make lock buster rounds for 12ga out of 7.5 shot & dental plaster mixed and loaded in 00 buck shell load. They would take out most locks and attachment points. Without over penetration

    • @UmamiPapi
      @UmamiPapi 2 года назад +1

      You can buy breaching rounds these days. I want some.

    • @TodayJunior-p8b
      @TodayJunior-p8b Год назад

      So shotguns can be used to break open doors? Better then a 9 mm right?

  • @glennrenfrow20
    @glennrenfrow20 5 месяцев назад

    I learned about cutshells back in the early 70’s from my uncle. As stated by others this was a common practice for deer if you couldn’t afford slugs. Very effective. Rest in peace uncle Albert.

  • @LORDVOLCOS
    @LORDVOLCOS 6 лет назад +34

    Watching in 2018. R.I.P. Barry

  • @yetisuncle666
    @yetisuncle666 2 года назад +3

    i do miss barry. everytime i hear cutshell or anyone talking about cutshells i always think of barry. it was him and eric that introduced the topic to me, i had never heard of it before.

  • @Jaden48108
    @Jaden48108 2 года назад +4

    Let's hear it for Georgia elevation! For home defense I'm well within 50 yards of my front porch to defend my mailbox. Should a crowd with bad intentions decide to wreck havoc (which is within the realm of possibility) #4 buckshot is my go to round. I might put in birdshot as my first round, but after that . . . this is VERY useful information.

  • @erwinschmidt7265
    @erwinschmidt7265 11 месяцев назад +2

    How far??? Well, in '67 N. of Howell Mich, Dave Ott was hunting back of their farm, as I hunted back of Gramp's place, where farms abutted. It was shotgun only area, & both w/12 gauge, shootin' breeze. Buncha shots rang out from Gramp's place, w/huge 8 pt buck leavin' Dodge!! We had visibility, but field & a half away, it was obvious out-of-range, but being Mich Native, I said to Dave, "Watch this"!! My J.C. Higgins pump w/vent rib & comp wide open barked. Had led buck a shtload, aimed half shtload high, waited...& waited, buck launched in huge leap, pirouetted 2 revolutions, landing on rack w/front legs running until met Mr. Knife! There was just light skim of snow on, so Dave said, "Lookit' that!!" Breneke slug hit on back drew whole drop of blood, then tumbled about 20', so Dave, said "Want this?" Slug had tiny nick on edge where had slain buck, so luckier than hell, I loaded it back up,in same casing & next year got big 10 pt 1st day!! So anyways, that's the most I could get out of a Breneke slug, & effective range...I dunno...how far can such a slug travel??

  • @BallisticMachinist
    @BallisticMachinist 8 лет назад +54

    I could have sent you some of my brass pellet shotgun slug I made, for this video. they are damn near in possible to stop.

    • @justahologram2230
      @justahologram2230 8 лет назад +5

      you do make some nice custom slugs

    • @BallisticMachinist
      @BallisticMachinist 8 лет назад +6

      +Austin McCoy thanks, I have been dreaming up some new design and will have them out soon

    • @thatoneengineer5525
      @thatoneengineer5525 8 лет назад +1

      +TACTICAL G-CODE hey I saw your stuff on taofledermauss, that's some good stuff keep it up

    • @justahologram2230
      @justahologram2230 8 лет назад

      ***** ohh a 950 yard 12ga shot!

    • @thatoneengineer5525
      @thatoneengineer5525 8 лет назад

      +TACTICAL G-CODE cool, can't wait

  • @betoxyz68
    @betoxyz68 2 года назад +5

    Perfect example not to rely on red dot sights. Great video!

  • @Excessive_complaining
    @Excessive_complaining 3 года назад +41

    I appreciate Barry showing us how to make cut shells rest in peace king

    • @TodayJunior-p8b
      @TodayJunior-p8b Год назад

      He died?!

    • @bocconom
      @bocconom Год назад

      @@TodayJunior-p8b I read a number of other posts and sadly it appears so.

  • @JohnSonnamaker-jg3st
    @JohnSonnamaker-jg3st 11 месяцев назад +1

    Once a 45-70 slug goes subsonic, the loss in velocity per 100 yards traveled, drops to maybe 50 ft per second. I've read that once upon a time, long range competitions were shot with them.
    The 12 gauge slug should do the same. A 525 grain sabot round that I have shot will shoot a rainbow trajectory but still have a good thump at distance.

  • @freshjnew
    @freshjnew 8 лет назад +70

    miss Barry and hope you're doing good brother

  • @gparton85
    @gparton85 3 года назад +5

    I know I'm late to viewing these vids but damn this guy's vision must be incredible to be able to decipher the difference in the damage from each shell even as he backed up all the way to 300 yd...

  • @MarineVeteran99
    @MarineVeteran99 4 года назад +5

    Thank you passing on the cut shell knowledge Barry. He's watching us from that great big gun range in the sky.

  • @rexyoshimoto4278
    @rexyoshimoto4278 11 месяцев назад

    Your video is fun to watch. While I was in Montana, a friend told me about cut shotgun shells. I tried a few and had simular results. Big and nasty at 40 yrds. Kudos.

  • @kainhall
    @kainhall 8 лет назад +107

    your telling me that the 500 yard slug sniping in "bad company 2" inst real????
    but video games never lie!!!

    • @jaj3238
      @jaj3238 8 лет назад +18

      Or that in The Division, buckshot shot from 200 yards can't penetrate metal all while still holding a 6 inch pattern.

    • @writtenworlds
      @writtenworlds 8 лет назад

      I laughed when I first saw that lol.

    • @ChristianGames316
      @ChristianGames316 8 лет назад +17

      I can't believe people are still commenting about slug sniping in BFBC2 in 2016....lmao. Blows my mind!

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall 8 лет назад +8

      +TheMursenary was to epic of a meme man....
      I live in montana...I know my guns....and I know physics...
      and when I could shoot.people cross map, doing.more damage than a sniper....with out the bullet drop of said sniper....
      like wut
      but fuck ea anymore.
      color me not hyped for bf1.

    • @JacketNinja1301
      @JacketNinja1301 8 лет назад +5

      I used to wreck kids in BF3 with the 870,slugs, 8x scope. unstoppable sniper in that game

  • @cokedaz
    @cokedaz 8 лет назад +37

    You need to try on the next video with some longer barrel shotguns, rifled barrels, chokes, use an optic, etc and see how far it can be pushed.

    • @Kishqui
      @Kishqui 8 лет назад

      I agree. (Was going to say the same thing.)

    • @chrisbryant8043
      @chrisbryant8043 8 лет назад

      I like the idea of different lengths and so on as you mentioned but maybe a different video. I'd love to see how/if he connects with the M2. It'd be nice to know when the "fit hits the shan" and I only have one shotgun to use.

    • @chrisbryant8043
      @chrisbryant8043 8 лет назад

      I like the idea of different lengths and so on as you mentioned but maybe a different video. I'd love to see how/if he connects with the M2. It'd be nice to know when the "fit hits the shan" and I only have one shotgun to use.

    • @InsanoBinLooney
      @InsanoBinLooney 8 лет назад +4

      A rifled barrel will increase that range a lot. I own one and can clearly see the difference at 200 yards using sabot slugs vs regular slugs in a smoothbore.

    • @InstinctiveFirearmReviews
      @InstinctiveFirearmReviews 8 лет назад +4

      I agree. You put a rifled barrel on plus 20 inches and a optic and I believe you will hit way farther.

  • @Britishshooter
    @Britishshooter 6 лет назад +22

    Surprising that a cut shell did so well at 100 yards, amazing really. Also amazing how relatively 'flat' a one once rifled slug shoots at 200 yards, saw this before on Hicock45 channel (in fact at 230 yards, he actually achieved a good group).As for buck shot at 100 and 200 yards well think of it this way, it would provide useful 'area fire' if you were attacked by pirates in the Gulf and had no other weapon. If you fired 8 shots at a skiff manned by 8 pirates I reckon at least one of them would be hit. When they get closer you could take them out one at a time with a cut shell.

  • @buckleymordecai9605
    @buckleymordecai9605 3 года назад

    Here's my comments: great voice, excellent editing, very good knowledge. Bravo. Very 'watchable'. You keep the viewer engaged with your pacing and energy. I learned quite a bit. Need to learn/watch what a 'cut-away round' is.

  • @franklinmallory2005
    @franklinmallory2005 3 года назад +17

    get out the long single shot shot guns the 28" and goose guns and rifled slug barrels you will see the real potential of a shotgun 28" Stevens single shot i got penetration with 7.5 shot at 51 yards so length is strength with a shot gun.

    • @stevewatts950
      @stevewatts950 3 года назад +1

      You miss the point! He is talking self defense 16.5” open choke semi auto. Not hunting shotguns. Of course full choke a 3” 28” Barrel is different. It’s not quite rocket science....your like comparing a 270 rifle to a 300 RUM. Apples vs pears.

  • @StinkyPataki
    @StinkyPataki 8 лет назад +128

    We all miss Barry.

  • @manny75586
    @manny75586 2 года назад +9

    Interesting video. At 400 yds, it looks like it may have punched through.
    That said, beyond 200 yds, I don't think I'd call anything a "reliable kill" past that range.
    Having to hold 70 ft high and 30 ft wide is definitely getting into pull n pray territory.

  • @jimbo3615
    @jimbo3615 3 года назад

    That slug at 300 hundred yards will “kill the crap out of you”! That’s awesome! Loved this video!!!

  • @tonyinfinity
    @tonyinfinity 8 лет назад +20

    Pretty good video but I wish you didn't shoot so many onto the same board, would've been nice to see multiple clean boards to compare to.

  • @Gottaculat
    @Gottaculat 5 лет назад +7

    What about buckshot through a 28" hunting barrel with an improved cylinder or modified choke?

  • @mahmoudghanam8530
    @mahmoudghanam8530 8 лет назад +63

    Barry Elliot rest in peace .i know am late but i really liked him

  • @albertattwood8746
    @albertattwood8746 8 месяцев назад +2

    Here in Australia, we don't have the luxury of home defense, the slugs and the cut shells were very impressive. I really enjoyed your video and your choice of shot gun. Albert Downunder😀

  • @YakMotley
    @YakMotley 7 лет назад +96

    Awesome video! Great experiment !

    • @Enforcer26
      @Enforcer26 3 года назад +1

      U sir are an awesome 😎 person for describing everything I think that’s freaking incredible thank u I got and a sad machine gun shotgun

    • @danthomas9170
      @danthomas9170 3 года назад

      I agree. I don't own a fancy, modern semi-automatic carbine, so if I were to ever need to defend my spread, my family and property, it would have to be my old trusty 12 gauge shot-gun

    • @mikespence8956
      @mikespence8956 3 года назад +1

      SOID! BENELLI! SOID! *MIKE! SPENCE! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!

    • @alcoleman2240
      @alcoleman2240 3 года назад

      @@Enforcer26 thanks

  • @j.w.p.canyon9719
    @j.w.p.canyon9719 5 лет назад +7

    GOOD INFO. COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT CHOKE YOU WERE USING ?
    THANKS JP

    • @1jzns
      @1jzns 5 лет назад

      Good question here

  • @justinhays447
    @justinhays447 Год назад +1

    I have watched 1,000s of videos and this is one of my Favorite ones. Great job!

  • @markbrown9781
    @markbrown9781 3 года назад +3

    I was surprised about your results as makes me I think should get more rifled slugs for my shotguns.

  • @samm4980
    @samm4980 3 года назад +5

    The inverse square law seems to hold somewhat true to the spread of shotgun patterns. If you double your distance from a target, the diameter of the spread quadrupled. I'm sure there can be some deviation though.

    • @TheStuhas
      @TheStuhas 2 года назад

      I will be hunting more with a 12 guage.

    • @TheStuhas
      @TheStuhas 2 года назад

      Guage. 81 yrs young.

  • @Arkady231
    @Arkady231 3 года назад +3

    Great video. Watched it prior to attending a long range shotgun course using slug, 00 buckshot and #1 bird shot. Used the same 1 oz Remington slugs with Benelli M4 and they worked well out to 260 yards. Could get 3 shot groups 3-4 MOA with slugs at 100 yards. On video we could actually see slugs landing at 260 yards. With the bird shot and buck we could see the patterns thrown up in the dust since we were shooting from higher ground. Long range shotgun is great fun and to be recommended, if you get the chance.

  • @ryanchermaie6145
    @ryanchermaie6145 6 месяцев назад +1

    Eric! Bud 8888 i haven't seen your videos in years. I just stumbled across this one and its been around 8 yrs ago. Good material btw

  • @toxicmatrix1337
    @toxicmatrix1337 8 лет назад +46

    How far will a 50 BMG kill? I think you may need more land though.

    • @glenpope4955
      @glenpope4955 8 лет назад +15

      farther than you can see is the answer for that

    • @reecelynch3522
      @reecelynch3522 8 лет назад +10

      The Miltiary had confirmed kills over 2 miles.

    • @Jerry-LZ
      @Jerry-LZ 8 лет назад +27

      How far are you willing to let them run is the answer to that.

    • @TheShorvok
      @TheShorvok 8 лет назад +2

      Not sure if your post is a joke or not, but it would be several miles. There's been a lot of use, especially during WW2 where they would use the M2 for what is essentially indirect fire into enemy positions, treating it like artillery.
      Look up "plunging fire".

    • @toxicmatrix1337
      @toxicmatrix1337 8 лет назад +7

      Can you imagine checking between each grouping? Yep guys 3 miles is a kill, now off to 4 miles...

  • @ubermench1000
    @ubermench1000 8 лет назад +6

    cool vid, I miss Barry . The two of you made a great team.

  • @davidhowe7844
    @davidhowe7844 7 лет назад +7

    could you maybe try to find Challenger rifled slugs if you end up doing the "how far will a slug kill" video? I use them for deer hunting and would like to see how far they drop at different ranges

  • @reubenpruett2680
    @reubenpruett2680 11 месяцев назад

    You brought me back to my childhood.
    Loved it!
    1960's

  • @lonewanderer3603
    @lonewanderer3603 8 лет назад +162

    I think the more important question is how far can a can cannon deliver an ice cold beer?

    • @caveymoley
      @caveymoley 7 лет назад +3

      :D

    • @bldlightpainting
      @bldlightpainting 7 лет назад +8

      No person of moral character needs this info.

    • @ruger3813
      @ruger3813 7 лет назад +10

      LoneWanderer360 those kind of questions keep me up at night lol

    • @ruger3813
      @ruger3813 7 лет назад +9

      BLD Lightpainting I don't have moral character 🙋 so I need this info in my life lol

    • @JQR76
      @JQR76 7 лет назад

      IraqVeteran8888 PLEASE DO THIS OMG

  • @robertcrowson3115
    @robertcrowson3115 7 лет назад +5

    Slug hits are sickning

    • @mattkluge2
      @mattkluge2 6 лет назад

      Yeah i like to use them for close situations its nice knowing the possibilities or redecorating my house with someone else if they came it although i really hope they dont because i aint cleaning that mess up

  • @dennisreid7839
    @dennisreid7839 2 года назад +4

    Did you ever mention how the shotgun is choked? For the birdshot and buckshot pattern spread this information is critical. This Benelli being a shorter combat model I'm guessing what, cylinder? BTW, great shooting and interesting tests!

  • @dennisminer7436
    @dennisminer7436 10 месяцев назад

    Before watching this video I had no idea how a slug would perform over different ranges Very informative video. Fast pace too.

  • @heathhalfhill6401
    @heathhalfhill6401 11 месяцев назад +4

    My late grandfather protected his home with 2 double action .22 LR revolvers for all of my life and longer. His philosophy was..." A blind man has the rest of his life to rethink their life's choices a dead man don't. Depends on where they force you to aim with birdshot now BUCKSHOT is a whole other animal especially inside your home. Everyone knew not to FA&FO so he never had his home broken into. They knew what to expect. He's gone now but I get it. Sadly in this day and age you might get sued for that since if your on trial like Trump and you didn't do anything wrong you can still get sued or fined. What a messed up world we have come too.

    • @Brad-n1i
      @Brad-n1i 5 месяцев назад

      Truth !!!

  • @makerofmanythings8447
    @makerofmanythings8447 4 года назад +13

    Cool video brother. I just got back from the rifle range with my Kel-tec KSG with some one oz slugs and was hitting a 12" gong at 150 yards!! I have a Holosun 506C optic and it it a VERY ACCURATE SETUP, it was at the point of aim. I have no doubt that I couldn't have gong hits at 200 yards..NO BS..😎

    • @michaelmontgomery5326
      @michaelmontgomery5326 2 года назад

      you were not hitting a 12 inch anything at 450 feet!!!

    • @makerofmanythings8447
      @makerofmanythings8447 2 года назад +1

      @@michaelmontgomery5326 Oh wow were you there ? I did it like 20 times in a row, it's not hard.

    • @michaelmontgomery5326
      @michaelmontgomery5326 2 года назад

      you need a 100 ft tape measure because your talking fish stories. and these guys are saying yards when it is plain to see that they are feet. I am from the country and I own 40 acres and have a 700 ft long field I use a good scope on a 30 30 and i can tell you this, windage counts at 700 feet. you's be lucky to hit a medium sized car with a box of slugs at 450 feet! I tell you what You get a 100 ft tape measure and use it in a video and show me because I am no city slicker.

    • @michaelmontgomery5326
      @michaelmontgomery5326 2 года назад

      @@makerofmanythings8447 and I don't know what idiot liked your comment because anyone who actually shoots at 450 feet with any 12 guage slug knows they can't hit shit.

    • @michaelmontgomery5326
      @michaelmontgomery5326 2 года назад

      @@makerofmanythings8447 and I would bet a hundred dollars that you couldn't hit a milk jug with a 22 rifle with a box of 50 shells without a scope at 450 ft lol

  • @1978garfield
    @1978garfield 7 лет назад +37

    Thumbs up for Barry.

  • @andygeorgiou2846
    @andygeorgiou2846 2 года назад +2

    The best slug video on distance out there by far. Tafladamaus be jealous

  • @AquaTread
    @AquaTread 8 лет назад +16

    15:18 Did these guys just make a Mighty Boosh Reference?!?

  • @lukelhb3619
    @lukelhb3619 8 лет назад +4

    dope videos bro. I watch your videos alot

  • @whartonoutdoors7493
    @whartonoutdoors7493 8 лет назад +6

    What about the 20 gauge shotgun for contrast?

    • @deadsoulwalking4296
      @deadsoulwalking4296 8 лет назад +1

      that would be a good test also?

    • @mcamodell
      @mcamodell 8 лет назад

      The gauge doesn't actually matter very much, it's all about velocity and weight

    • @fluffykittynoodles
      @fluffykittynoodles 8 лет назад +2

      a lot of people don't know that all shotgun gauges perform relatively closely to each other. for example, 410 double buck is only 200fps off 12ga double buck.only difference is between the payload of the two calibers.

    • @fluffykittynoodles
      @fluffykittynoodles 8 лет назад

      +Art Frewin it's alright, you just reiterated what I said is all. I think a .410 double ought buck has 3 pellets? and like you said, the 12ga has 9. so obviously, the 12 will have more "ass" because there's more pellets, but each pellet individually has about the same energy across the shot shell size range.

    • @mcamodell
      @mcamodell 8 лет назад

      For the extreme example of .410 vs 12Ga...yes, there would be far less pellets. For 12ga vs 20ga...no, they would be the same.

  • @iraneman1668
    @iraneman1668 6 месяцев назад

    Can't think of any other channel, competing with you, let alone remote chance of being "Better"!
    Well done my friend.

  • @Covert_Arrangements
    @Covert_Arrangements 2 года назад +4

    Now this is an awesome video 👍🏻🤠

  • @shahrozekhurram9836
    @shahrozekhurram9836 8 лет назад +49

    please do a video on chokes.

  • @iambilly610
    @iambilly610 8 лет назад +28

    Now im curious what a rifled barrel and a slug will do.

    • @chsims7032
      @chsims7032 8 лет назад +2

      I was thinking the same thing. Particularly a bolt action 12 gauge with a rifles barrel for slugs.

    • @chsims7032
      @chsims7032 8 лет назад

      Rifled*

    • @jmm83164
      @jmm83164 8 лет назад +5

      Witha purpose built 870 rifled slug gun I was able to group 3 inches at 200 yards . I took a bobcat at 187 there people making consistant deer kills at over 300 yards.

    • @MaCabaret
      @MaCabaret 8 лет назад

      jmm83164 tots

    • @conlaiarla
      @conlaiarla 7 лет назад +3

      Billy Celli its called a rifle lol

  • @curtisbryce5096
    @curtisbryce5096 2 года назад +1

    If a bear is charging me, I want as much space between it and I as possible.

  • @DaveModz
    @DaveModz 7 лет назад +6

    Great video. Thank you. Can you tell me what failed with the Vortex Venom optic?