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Thank you for pointing out terrible auditors that give the rest of them bad names.
Lately a lot of people here have been calling AtA pro police.
I'm glad AtA did a video where he is clearly auditing an auditor like his name suggests.
All Frauditors are terrible.
This guy has several complaints of recording children in many of his videos. Looks like he may be hiding behind 1A to record children.
@@stephanest-germain2996 Are you trying to make a joke or are you stating the obvious?
Should I take your words at face value? Because yes, obviously fraud is terrible which is why it is a crime.
Are you attempting to call all auditors fraudsters? If so I'm afraid I have to say that you are incorrect.
There are laws and regulations that govern how civilians can act. There are rules and regulations that govern how the government can act.
For civilians law breaking is either reported (by another civilian) or caught in the act by law enforcement.
For the government law breaking is either reported (by someone in the government) or caught in the act by a civilian.
An auditor actively catches government law breakers the same way an undercover police officer can actively catch an illicit transaction.
If you don't want to go to jail don't solicit drugs or murder for hire from a police officer. If you don't want to be sued don't violate the constitutional rights of a civilian holding camera.
Are there bad cops? Yes, that's the reason why there's a thing called entrapment and other such laws for the police to follow. By that same logic there are bad auditors, but not the auditing community as a whole.
All Frauditors are terrible. The vast majority of them are criminals@@john2g1
This auditor is doing a disservice to all the good others have done towards first amendment audits
This auditor needs the shit slapped out of him, plain and simple. He gives all other good auditors a bad name.
I made a mistake whoopsie 🤷♂️
@@RightsRuckusRevolutionstop filming schools with little kids, fkin hella weird dude.
So many of them are now auditing schools. It’s scary. Tyrant Terminator Audits just the other day said he would push past staff members to gain access to a pre-school. 😳
Wouldn't be surprised if he's a government plant
It's not even just this incident, he's been filming at multiple schools and been trespassed previously and STILL carried on with this? Absolute predator in the making.
I was thinking the same thing. Is this guy even allowed that close to ANY school??
I think he’s a pedo
As a parent I’m glad the officers and staff did their job.
This ain’t it chief. I can support first amendment audits all day but a school is not where this needs to be taking place at. Absolutely crazy he thought this was a good idea.
This is what happens when every middle school drop out with a cell phone camera, thinks they’re a RUclips freedom fighter with a law degree
100%, schools should have the same security as hospitals and not let anyone without business to enter
I very much watch and support audits all the time, but i agree the schools is where “fight for transparency” can stop. Anywhere else i support
@@richarddukard8989most middle school dropouts actually work in law enforcement...
@@JJ2badlife I might have some support for the children who attend the school, and their parents, to have more access or transparency. Reasonable time, place and manner etc... so a parent/guardian who demands to contact/retrieve their child for whatever reason should be given leave to do so, after their identity and relationship to the child is established, they should be chaperoned to the appropriate classroom by a member of staff, with no-one giving them grief if they happen to be recording their interactions on the way.
But that would of course not include random people with no legitimate interest in the school.
This is genuinely disturbing behavior. Does he really want to let any random creep onto a school campus? All he's achieving is freaking everyone out and showing how ignorant and mentally detached he is.
And when they told him to leave, he said he was going to the elementary school next. That’s creepy.
Like I think all public universities should be open no problem, but yes this is a primary school we should be protecting our children, this guy is nuts and deserves to sit in a box for a few years to discover where he went wrong in life.
@@JulieL96 its strange as helll
@@JulieL96 Why? What is SOOOOO creepy about a guy recording fully clothed kids in public? Nothing.
So the teachers, students, security cams, the whole staff can record whenever they want... but we the people cant? WHY????
Public schools should be open to the public AND THERE SHOULD BE ACTUAL SECURITY... meaning, anyone visiting goes through security AND SO ON... just like any public building where we ACTUALLY care about safety of the occupants would.
Putting this in place would GREATLY increase the overall security of these buildings, but no one actually cares about the kids. Which is why the rates of sexually assault on children in the public schooling system will continue to dwarf the same crime rate in the Catholic church... and Im sure we've all heard how bad it is in there... right? Well guess what, it's worse at your kid's school... now what are you gonna do about it? Keep more cams away?
The public schools need to focus on keeping the lead shooters out of the schools, not video shooters... recording hurts NO ONE and protects everyone.
Your reasoning is flawed on so many levels. There is a big difference between the school having cameras and a strange person with no connection to the school. The video speaks for itself.
OMG schools are not meant to be visited by crazy people. I thank these staff members and officers for seeing that he's crazy. I have 5 boys and it's scary enough already. Auditing is normally encouraged but NEVER at a school/daycare/etc.
I'm scared that they buzzed this F-wad in at all
He’s not crazy. He’s evil. He’s selling his soul to make $5 off RUclips.
Yep, I've had to get a deputy to escort a scary dude off restricted property, he was getting too close to a public drinking water storage tank. I am a constitutional auditor AND a licensed public water system operator, so I know the difference between non-public public property and public public property.
They are also not meant to be a place where crazy people can go and teach but here we are in 2023
The auditor in this video is one of those people who hate auditors. He did this to try and make them look bad.
Imagine the legal precedent it would set if random adults could just hang out inside schools
I don’t blame the school. I wouldn’t want some random dude filming inside of a school without disclosing why here’s there. That’s weird
Sure but he already did disclose why he was there
What law did he break?
The go be weird some where away from kids law @@moderncrusader991
Especially with kids in the vicinity....
@@moderncrusader991doesn't matter if it's legal it's still not right 🤡 especially with all the shit that's been going on at schools you guys are sick
Im not an auditor, but I wouldn't assume a public school is a place I could film without permission.
That's why research is important. Assumptions can get you in trouble.
inside no. Outside, within view of public, yes. Like he could stand on the corner with a sign and a camera, but can't enter the school. Schools are not public places, even if they might receive public funding.
Pubic School District Office and Administration buildings [without students] are fair game, but NOT the school itself, especially when students are present.
As a parent to a child in Ohio, I don't think anybody has the right to be inside that school during school hours. These people handled it very well. As a parent, that " auditor" creeps me out.
Publicly accessible areas is a key phrase
Adults do not have a right to enter a primary schools playground
Teachers so. And parents when regrading the education of their child
Even then parents likely have to check in to confirm
As an officer I really enjoy your videos. They are educational and fair to both sides.
Biased
As a prior officer I agree!
Be safe out there bro!
ty for your dedication to keeping us safe, But please always remember this piece of advice; You can't break the law to serve the law:
I appreciate you taking interest in serving with integrity.
Hopefully your fellow officers are equally interested.
@@SNOWCONE1 idiot lol
That is definitely very strange that he wanted to go inside of the school. Imagine how insane our schools would be if any random stranger could take pictures inside. It really makes me question what his real motivations were, if this was actually a first amendment audit or just an excuse.
This was clearly a first amendment audit. He simply doesn’t understand the difference of a school
The auditor in this video is one of those people who hate auditors. He did this to try and make them look bad.
I was scared to look at the comments section but I’m so happy to see that everyone is in agreement. Only a crazy person would think this is ok.
There are a few in the comments.
100%
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Anyone defending this audit is nuts
I have to say, I was hella wary of the comments, too! This guy isn't an auditor, really; he's an energy vampire, like Colin Robinson in 'What We Do In The Shadows'. 🦇
@@Knight_Astolfojust from the title of the video, I thought this would be a violation of rights video, like many of the others, but as soon as I saw/heard that he was in a *PUBLIC SCHOOL* where there were currently children inside trying to learn and this weirdo is trying to film immediately was a red flag
The amount of research you put into this, the attention to detail when you explain it, the analyzing, your neutrality when analyzing these situations. It's all absolutely perfect. Thanks for your videos.
This is the way I was taught in school. Objective learning is gone though and lawyers have to comply with the government (at least in Canada).
As a public school employee, this guy is insane. We’d call a lockdown if it escalated to having to remove a person from the school. A random guy trying to film the school just because? The first thought is “he’s trying to case the place to fuck it up”. Plus there are students, you can’t just film where students are. It violates THEIR rights. We have to get photo consent from all students and it’s carefully cross referenced with photos.
"I'm getting ready to head over to the Elementary next." Can that be taken as probable cause to detain for child predation? The sad thing is that there are probably already victims of this guy but it's so hard to ever uncover these kinds of things.
That's quite an accusation.
Yeah.... This guy is wrong. You don't mess with schools man. They've been though enough. Go to a library or police station or something.
Libraries have been through enough too. Kids just trying to study there. Police stations are fair game.
I live in West Carrollton Ohio lol I watch Audit the Audit all the time lol
Yup. I have no sympathy for this man.
Exactly my thoughts
I personally have kids and I wouldn't want this happening at our schools
This was a very shameful audit. Security and the police handled this with superb professionalism. Mr Taylor needs to get educated and not engage in auditing until he can get his practice straight
Bro keeps going for attention grabbing audits and probably got his knowledge from a facebook group.
"It SaYs pUbLiC" is all the fuel they need..
Or just never again and save everyone the trouble
With all the school shootings happening recently, how was this an intelligent choice?
I sincerely wish our police had a weight program. Just comes off wrong to me seeing overweight cops
@@FREQQLEShe graduated with a C- from the University of RUclips
When it comes to the safety of our children, I think most would agree that going to school and wanting to be around children that aren't yours is an unacceptable line to cross.
Kudos to both the cops and the Principal for skillful handling of this troublemaker
Going to film at a school…yeah probably not the best idea. As a dad I wouldn’t want some rando filming my kids school.
I’ll second that.
@@baconious1380Schools are constantly being recorded by the government. The same government that keeps covering up Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs, a child sex trafficker turned government scapegoat.
Especially one that refuses to identify or answer any questions as to what he is there for.
Yeah, this is one of those cases where it may be _legal,_ but 'social norms' enters the chat and asks _"how much of your childhood was spent locked in a closet!?!"_ FFS...🙄 At least he apologized and promised not to do it again.
@@zoopdterdoobdter5743I don't think it is legal for him to go into a school during session - as said in the video. Stand on the sidewalk and film, sure. But going into the school? No.
Put this man on a watch list immediately
Only a pedo would think schools should be open to just anybody
This channel is great. You have an amazing way of staying remarkably unbiased.
Kudos sir. I truly appreciate that you show all sides and give credit, and discredit when it’s due.
I get it that a school is public property and owned by local government but schools are not open for visitors unless you’re a student or conducting business on behalf of a student, you can’t just walk in and hang out.
Says who?
@@Jimbo0341usmc Says every single school district in the US, and every District court has upheld that restriction.
I really don't get why people would question this or challenge it for that matter. No parent wants random people to have access to their children.
@@Jimbo0341usmcthe courts. Did you not watch the video and read the court cases
@@Jimbo0341usmcapparently you didn't watch the video
Let me get this straight. He thought he could walk into any public school, not disclose his ID or intentions, and film areas in that school and that the staff would just let him do it? Weirdos like him are why schools have ramped up their security as shown in this video.
Honestly, someone needs to talk to the school employee that let him in, that was kinda scary to me, because what if he was a whacko looking to shoot the place up? She would have ended up allowing a school shooter into the building with zero resistance!
The auditor in this video is one of those people who hate auditors. He did this to try and make them look bad.
@SharptonsRaceCard yup, that's why we don't let anyone in during school hours unless absolutely necessary.
This guy would be trespassed so quickly.
@Audit the audit, I sincerely appreciate your objective takes on these matters. You give credit where credit is due for police officers who do their job well, and you educate your audience of failures of specific auditors when they find themselves mistaken. As somebody who is typically a fan of first amendment auditors, it's so important to me that we accept when they make mistakes, and learn from them
Brilliant video as always. Good to see some excellent police work and keeping a creep out of the school.
Bruh. What kind of creep wants to film inside a school? This is the type of “auditing” that gives auditors a bad name.
So many are doing it now. So freaking weird and gross. Tyrant Terminator Audits just the other day went to a pre-school to Audit! So creepy…
Likely a pedophile kind of creep...
@@dobbsy22 too far! Especially when they are wrong about the law. Although this is the first auditor “F” grade on AtA in a while 😂
All "auditors" are fckn losers. Only time they're not is when they audit government buildings that actually need to be audited. Not a fckn random library or something
This guy gives me the vibes of him watching audits and think it's an easy"pay day". His entire attitude is based on "don't do that, please arrest me, I'll see you in court" attitude vs " I truly care about this right and will take further legal action if those rights aren't honored, I'm here to bring awareness to a cause" he probably thinks he's smart by choosing schools cause he doesn't see anyone else "auditing" schools.
I think he's a plant. A LARPer. I wouldn't be surprised if a cop union paid him or some other cop aligned political entity put him up to it somehow.
That's actually a pretty good reason to stress test them. I don't get the difference quite frankly, if you remove the emotional aspect of people and their children. Libraries too are filled with parents and children.
Who objectively cares
One of the best videos from ATA, excellent coverage on everything legal here
This is why I love this channel . It is unbiased in showing when police are in the wrong , but also when citizens are in the wrong and police are in the right .
This is one of those cases where “you probably could, but you probably not should.” Cmon man.
Imagine saying the phrase "im about to head to the elementary school next" in that manner and thinking you're in the right.
Made the cop choke back a laugh with that one, guy was super professional but that was too much.
Thank you Audit the Audit to show the bad apples and what is exactly wrong.
Lawyers should retain you for the deep dive of lawful precedence and information that you provide. Keep Auditing the Audits!!!!
The fact that this guy chooses to primarily "audit" schools is really creepy and makes me question the real motivation behind his "audits".
Yeah, they should get a warrant to look at his phone and computer. This dude is sus
I'd believe he 100% understood that people would find it weird, and was just baiting them to get kicked out so he could have a video of "his rights being infringed upon"
I CONCUR!!!
@@maxharvey165funny how those who would support the rights of others suddenly throw RAS and PC out the window when they disagree with his dumb methods and go straight to aggressive searches
@@MVBriscoVolante what was that mumbo jumbo of acronyms ? I'm canadian and if someone did that here, it's what would happen
Usually id defend auditors, but i cant defend this one.
Yeah this one is straight up stupid
I agree 100%
In theory auditors are fine, but I’ve never seen one that I’ve deemed a good person. Most others are actual criminals.
Sovereign citizens arent auditors which i hatr as well but they get confused with eachother way to often@onlynameleftonutube5326
@onlynameleftonutube5326 I guess that's just a personal judgement. I don't necessarily think being an auditor makes you inherently good or bad as a person, but their actions as auditors are generally good. At the very least, they're generally a necessary action.
In this case, I think the auditor was going a bit far, especially considering the current climate at public schools.
The fact that he was even allowed to enter the building in the first place is crazy.
ATA, I believe that this is one of the best and most important audits that you have ever done, Thank you for doing this.
I agree with the school.
Good to hear that the law is clarified and rightly, kids who are in education being in the care of the school should be protected.
If you do not watch these people with our children there will be no telling what kind of dubious things they will teach them
@georgecraytin9838 that's up to the parents not some weirdo with a camera. I won't even get in to how wrong you about teacher curriculum btw your comment makes me think you either don't have kids or your kids are grown either way you don't have a dog in this fight. I'd love to know what "dubious" things you think teachers are teaching anyway maybe that we're all human and we should treat each other as such, or maybe the real history of this "great" nation of ours. Either way I'd like my kids to know the truth and form their own opinions rather than be force-fed nationalistic likes just to make little Timmy and Chloe feel better about themselves.
Sure enough but until i have kids I the system don't tax me for your private/public schools
@@georgecraytin9838all curriculum is public information that can be easily found. If you need to know what the teacher is saying word for word everyday, then just ask your kid what they're learning. If your kid won't talk to you, then that sounds like a family problem.
Absolutely!
Im from that area. I am so glad you covered this, it makes me so happy lol. He has been going around causing trouble at all the schools in the area. He made quite the buzz considering how many parents have gotten emails from schools about him.
If this were my kids district, I would hope they would get a PPO that banned him from all of the school campuses. This is extremely disturbing.
I agree this is disturbing and the fact that he keeps going to the other schools.
He still thinks he's in the right on this. 🤔😳🤦♂️🤦♂️
The fact that he was just casually holding a Dr.Pepper during the whole thing is just icing on the cake.
This video is a great example of everything that is exceptional about ATA’s content. In fact, every video of ATA’s that I’ve I seen is a great example of how exceptional ATA is. You do a great service.
I think this guy is confused... Just because it's a "public" school, doesn't mean it's open to the public.
That word doesn't magically make a place open to anyone surely.
You’re wrong. Look it up.
@@DeepDishPizzalmfao
@@DeepDishPizza🤦🏻♂️😂
@@DeepDishPizza Go record people in a public bathroom and let me know how that goes mate.
@@DeepDishPizza why comment on a video that you didn't watch? lol every court case on topic says the public has no constitutional right to enter a public school
Schools are not open to the general public, wtf is this guy on? 😂
Great job and assessment as always!
Very good work. Giving no bias toward the auditors who are doing unnecessary stuff. The cops did good here. Good to see
Audit the Audit is probably Taylor’s hero and he gets an “F” from them 😂
That is unfair. He should not be at schools trying to do an audit.
Right... This is unacceptable
I agree. I’m all for auditing but schools are different. This is a common sense issue which he clearly doesn’t have.
I actually agree. Especially a High School.
By this guy's logic, the constitution would protect someone who went to a public school anonymously and filmed kids coming and going from the bathrooms. Being an ignorant entitled jackass is common in the 'auditing' community - but this guy takes it to a whole new level.
Stupid auditor
My children go to public school. And, no way would I feel comfortable with him coming in and taping the grounds, or the children and staff! In this world that we love in, especially. It's scary to think of what harm could be caused, if we didn't protect it. This man is unreasonable, and ignorant. In my opinion 💯
Thanks this was very important to know. This needs to be circulated more, i can see this becoming a problem.
What an absolutely creep… He demands to be allowed to film inside a school and then claims that the security and police are violating his rights, incorrectly cites case law, and then at the end of all of this says, “Alright, I’m gonna go do this at another school now.”
What a loser.
Yeah the officer heard that and why he said at the end in the criminal trespass notice that it's for all schools in the district so he's put on notice.
If he's only going to schools it's disturbing and makes me wonder why he thinks this is ok.
Misunderstanding the law is not an excuse.
it isnt publicly accessible if he has to be buzzed in
Yes it is😂
Not to mention it’s a school. The local schools where I live do not allow a person to visit if they aren’t a parent, guardian, or otherwise have legitimate business with the school or their staff for obvious safety and security reasons.
We are eagarly waiting for his next audit at the local hospital, where he will walk into patients rooms, operating theaters, and of course the womens changing room.
This is absolutely creepy af!!! No way this would ever be acceptable, is he serious?!?! 😡🤬😠
I have my doubts that he was simply at those schools to audit. If this was a one-time thing, I might believe he was simply uneducated. But the fact that this was the second school he was trespassed from, it raises some alarm bells to possible predatory behavior
Facts, I guarantee he just wanted to see the kids
100%
While it does raise some alarm bells, I genuinely think he's picked schools precisely because he knows it will raise alarm bells, so that he'll get the reaction he wants.
He's then taking the arguments that might reasonably apply to auditing places such as parks, courthouses, unemployment offices etc, and trying to apply them at a school where they just don't reasonably fit, obtusely pretending he doesn't see the difference to try to win some kind of concession to his argument by some gotcha technicality.
To me he seems a bit like a precocious toddler trying to test all the boundaries just for the sake of it, and to enjoy the reaction it creates, rather than having any actual interest in creeping around schools. Maybe he's a redditor. Then again, maybe this is some truly bizarre attempt to hide in plain sight? Who knows... it's pretty concerning behaviour whichever way you slice it.
Ok, first, obviously this is inappropriate, a school where people are naturally going to feel protective of children is not the place to conduct an audit - this should go without saying. The guy was being an absolute idiot.
Secondly, you guys are also being idiots. I mean come the fuck on, pedos don't wear body cameras and sign in with their full names. You know damn well he wasn't actually being a predator, he's just an auditor who lacks any semblance of common sense. Never attribute to malice that which can reasonably be attributed to stupidity. There's enough child predator panic in the world already - people do shit like this to turn society against everything from gay people to trans people to fucking leftists - we don't need MORE people pretending they are convinced someone is a child predator _when they obviously know he isn't._
You're using the understandable perception of predator-like behavior to brand him with a debilitating mark that you know will carry serious weight, and I know you think that's justified, because you want to ward people away from doing stupid shit like this. But in doing so you're just weaponizing the concept of child abuse in order to be extra vitriolic to this guy. I grant you he deserves the vitriol, but society does not deserve yet more diluting of the obscenely serious matter of child abuse just to browbeat people some individuals don't like. The more we participate in or tolerate this, the more dilute that subject matter becomes, until no one takes it seriously even when they should.
There's plenty enough wrong with what this dipshit did already, we don't need to disingenuously contrive even more, just to posture as a defender of the kiddies. This guy needs someone to slap some sense into him, not literally ruin his entire life with a scarlet letter that society will never forgive or forget. We have to stop doing this. We have to stop accepting it when people use the abuse of children as a cudgel because it gives them a gross rush of power in their belly. Child predators are not just a literary device to make your otherwise valid arguments swing a little heavier. We owe the victims better than that.
You doubt humanity in others based off assumptions. I would never want a friend like that. Although he clearly made mistakes when it came to his audit since schools have different rules than police stations, city halls, and such. I've just learned this as well so I believe the guy just made some mistakes in his research. I'm not going to assume the man is a kid diddler just because he messed up his audit with a facility that has a different rule set. Let's not assume the worst in people. It's incredibly naive.
Perfect grades. Love how at the end you turn this situation into a means to teach auditors. I think in all my assessments of your grades, I've never told you how much I respect your research into case law on these matters, so thank you.
The Dunning-Kruger effect on full display 😂
Always good to see officers doing a good job, especially when it’s protecting our kids.
Except in ulvalde and parkland when they waited outside for an hour while kids were being killed.
This had nothing to do with kids, and everything to do with our freedoms.
@@gregkasza1925 I meant in the sense that police are up to speed on the laws that allow them to protect the children.
@@paulengels6926 I don't think I want to acknowledge those as "officers".
Who protects them when they're not in school?🤔
Sorry, that guy is a creeper. Even a parent needs to pass a background test to help in the classroom or chaperone a field trip
Since you released this video this creep, William Taylor, has left our kids alone. He’s been stalking children at a local library. Thank you for informing the public!
This is a great one audit to audit
Ok I can see filming a police station or city hall, but a school??? Bruh pick and choose your battles…
He should go audit the dmv instead of wanting to record kids
Why did he feel the need to film inside of a High school? This is very creepy behavior..... He needed to be removed for safety reasons.
exactly. some of these audits are simply fishing expeditions... you're doing the same thing these fucking cops do...
you want to do audits? do it in the street where cops have people pulled over, go to the police station parking lot and do an audit. grow a pair of nuts and put your ass and freedom on the line... stop fucking with old ladies in school board buildings / DMVs / Health Departments.
it's a bad faith audit and only persuades the public to see auditors in a bad light.
Because he can!
Actually he can not film imside of the school. Try again stupid.
@@DeepDishPizza clearly he can’t. Did you even watch the video?
@@DeepDishPizza No, he can't.
Why on EARTH would it be okay to film an elementary school??? That behavior is SUSPICIOUS and STRANGE for sure.
I don’t even want to watch this after I heard he was auditing a high school. Glad to hear he got an F and you called him out for it. Glad the comment section isn’t a cesspool.
Taylor said he was "stoked" to be on Audit the Audit. I wonder if he's still so stoked?
Hope he enjoys *his* walk of shame.
More like he was stoked to get pics of little kids. The only place he audits are schools. He doesn’t try the police station of city hall.
This is why I like this channel. You always do your honest best to get to who objectively is right or wrong, regardless of who it is!
Only one audit channel i will watch with respect
Not always. He said Direct D wasn't allowed counsel on his charges, when actually it was clearly evident at the time Direct D had lied about his income (and wouldn't fill in anything), and Direct D had been give 5 different counsel leading up to that point, whom he harassed and doxed. Direct D by his actions lost the right to a 6th counsel being assigned.
As always an excellent discussion. ATA. Brovo.
Hopefully this thing is on a watchlist.
A perfect example of a "frauditor".
💯 finally a good use of that word
Schools, Universities, Courthouses, and Libraries, are what is called nonpublic or limited public forums they can reasonably restrict people's First Amendment rights inside such buildings.
The Supreme Court established three different types of public forums in Perry Education Association v. Perry Local Educators' Association (1983): traditional, limited and nonpublic.
Limited and nonpublic fourms can limit the use of the public space to its designed purpose, and in nonpublic forums can even reasonably restrict or limit a person's first amendment rights.
Courts have ruled that filming is subject to Time, Place, and Manner if the place is a nonpublic forum filming can be restricted.
Filming is still in a gray area of the law when it comes to filming inside nonpublic forums because they can't write statutes that make filming illegal inside, take a school for example they have events that allow parents to film their children playing sports or performing in plays, so they would violate the law in such circumstances if it was flat out illegal to film inside nonpublic forums.
The government can open a nonpublic forum this is when a nonpublic forum becomes a limited public forum.
An example of this would be a library could open the fourm to allow a photography club or the news to film inside when the government opens a fourm it is only open to that certain group or speech that they are allowing, but it can still be limited to others so they can give the right to record to a person or group but still keep the fourm closed to others.
Where a library is open to everyone they are still nonpublic forums In Kreimer v. Board of Police of Morristown, NJ, an important court opinion addressing a library user’s right to enter and use the library, the court held that because public libraries are a limited public forum, constitutional protection is afforded only to those expressive activities that are consistent with the mission and purpose of the library. A public library is only obligated to permit the public to exercise rights that are consistent with the government’s intent in establishing the library as a limited public forum for the purpose of receiving information and accessing the library’s books, programs, and online resources. According to the Kreimer opinion, other activities, including activities such as photography, filming, petition-gathering, assemblies, and public speeches, may be regulated by the library using reasonable, viewpoint neutral, time, place, and manner rules.
Libraries are not only places to check out books they are places where people do research and develop new ideas and theories or work on inventions.
Because people bring a lot of intellectual property into Libraries and Universities the government employees are obligated to try and protect peoples intellectual property from unnecessary exposure.
If people are live streaming to a social media site and purposefully or accidentally film personal intellectual property there is a risk of that information being stolen or being plagiarized by others.
Libraries also have policies that the American Library Association (ALA) have put in place and a libraries Bill of Rights, this the the ALA'S position on privacy.
"Privacy is essential to free inquiry in the library because it enables library users to select, access, and consider information and ideas without fear of embarrassment, judgment, punishment, or ostracism. A lack of privacy in what one reads and views in the library can have a significant chilling effect upon library users’ willingness to exercise their First Amendment right to read, thereby impairing free access to ideas. True liberty of choice in the library requires both a varied selection of materials and the assurance that one's choices are not monitored.
The possibility of surveillance, whether direct or through access to records of speech, research and exploration, undermines a democratic society. One cannot exercise the right to read if the possible consequences include damage to one's reputation, ostracism from the community or workplace, or criminal penalties. Choice requires both a varied selection and the assurance that one's choice is not monitored. For libraries to flourish as centers for uninhibited access to information, librarians must stand behind their users' right to privacy and freedom of inquiry."
Yes, schools are often quite vigilant and prohibitory about unauthorized visitors nowadays, as I found out myself a while back: I was out collecting returnables along the road a few years ago, and I detoured into the playground and parking lots of a local grade school to clean up discarded containers there. After a while, I got very gently/apologetically asked by the female principal to temporarily leave and then come back a short time later, after the children had come out for recess and then gone back inside again: "I totally appreciate your cleaning up trash here, Sir, and you obviously aren't hurting or endangering anything by doing so, but the State mandates that we can't have anyone other than the staff and students' parents on school grounds during any period when the children are present outside." Then on a subsequent empties-collecting visit there the next year, the principal came out to humbly speak to me on that occasion, as well; she again regretfully asked me to leave, even though on this occasion it wasn't near recess time: "I know I said you could collect returnables during this period, Sir, and I would gladly allow you to continue doing so, but the State's rules have been made stricter since last year, and so now, nobody other than teachers or parents is allowed to be on the school grounds at ANY time while we're holding classes or otherwise having children present here. You are more than welcome to come and pick up bottles and cans after school hours, though, or on the weekend."
What makes him think for even one second that the general public has any access to a school. There are no publicly accessible parts of a school!
I always get so excited when you upload!
Edit: I'm now less excited and more just creeped out
This is why your channel is so valuable, you show encounters which highlight the good and bad, and inform the public, rather than showing only one POV.
This audit? I feel like the auditor was trying to “draw the foul”.
Really like to watch these type of interactions where police officers are behaving as they should, it demonstrates that not all police officers are equal
Yeah they acted well here. I still don’t trust them.
@@madtabby66 That's fair. I would say having a healthy amount of distrust of any stranger, police or not, is good until you can gauge their intentions. Blindly trusting someone due to their profession or position can be problematic.
I bet this isn't what he was expecting when he gave you permission to use his video great job 😂😂
Love how fair you are
There's absolutely no excuse for not knowing the law if you're going to go try to stir up a hornet's nest. Just makes the auditing community look bad.
It’s true, you have about 100x more responsibility to know the law as a random citizen than those who are sworn, paid, and trained to know the law.
It’s what he’s attempting to do
@@MajesticRidez What is he attempting to do? Are you saying he is deliberately trying to make auditors look bad? Why would he do that?
Filming is still in a gray area of the law where you have the right to film courts have recognized that the right can be limited in certain cases such as a restroom or changing rooms locker rooms tanning rooms or people’s domiciliary.
Anywhere a person can reasonably expect privacy filming can be prohibited where some of these places are open to the public and people can enter them filming is illegal inside them.
There are state statutes a person can be charged with if they try and film inside such places but the government has also restricted filming inside places like Schools, Universities, Courthouses, and Libraries, the government reserves the right to reasonably limit the First Amendment inside such places they call nonpublic forums or limited public forums, where they restrict filming there are no state statutes that make it illegal so a person can not be charged with a criminal offense so the worst they can do is trespass the person from the building.
This auditor is creepy as hell. I’m with the school on this one!
concur
@@brownkr It's not about whether the guy is "creepy" or not. The entire auditor premise that you can't be trespassed from public property is legally false false false!
@@billpeet1976
Uhm…okay…
@@billpeet1976 um yeah.. that's kinda what this whole video was about... we know he is wrong about the legality of it but he's also a fucking weirdo.
im all up for audits i love the video even done a few myself but doing it at schoos never crossed my mind and should never cross anyone else mind there are kids there and kids should be off limit for your content
Dude is actually harming the auditing committee by so much
Exactly. So many are trying to do it now and it’s doing more harm than anything else.
I'm happy to finally see some fellow officers get an A on your channel. I think your channel should be required watching in post academy training.
Sad isn't it? Should this not be included in academy training?
What else is academy for than prepare officers to do their job correctly...?
@@dutchman7623 agreed!
Wholeheartedly agree. Some departments do a good job with training while others graduate recruits without even rudimentary knowledge of constituional law.
Though I know some cops just allow power to get in their heads, I think a good chunk of the issues we see from police stem from just gross negligence when it comes training and bad behavior snowballing over time because they have gone unchecked for so long.
@@ccramit Very well said!
Best part about all this is RightsRuckusRevolution was excited to be asked if ATA could use his video and was looking forward to this video XD
This is amazing, I imagine being the officer who gets an A. A credit to the force
If you want to lose support for the auditing community, audit a school where people’s children are. This person sets us back.
And yet so many of them are doing it now and are actually getting support. Tyrant Terminator Audits just the other did an audit at a pre-school!!! He even said at one point if they wouldn’t let him in he was going to push past the staff members to get access and the people in his comments were saying he should have done just that.. crazy!
These cops deserve recognition for processing this stop. More cops should look at this example.
Pro tip! If you have to be buzzed through a locked door to gain access to a place it MIGHT NOT BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE
This dude gives auditors a bad name. Don’t go filming a school…just creepy, dude.
Most auditors give auditors a bad name. And they aren't auditing anyway, they're trying to instigate a fight and test people. An audit is where you look at the past and see what was done wrong.
It's no worse than filming/auditing at a public library, where lots of kids are studying. The real issue is that it's perfectly legal to trespass people from public property, contrary to what many ill-informed auditors (and their fans) think.
@@billpeet1976It is far more complicated than that. And yes kids MIGHT be at a library but there is a difference from a few kids at a library to going to a school that is guaranteed full of kid.
And yet so many are doing it now! This is where the auditing community is at…. They know they will get more alarm and more likely police presence when trying to gain access to a school under the guise of the first amendment so they keep pushing the limits for that content.
as a recently retired elementary teacher I am glad you made this video. I’m in NYC and we have had to trespass parents who wanted to beat up 1st graders who had a problem with their kid. The officers were very reasonable.
Security at schools has been tight for a while now. I remember years ago when out for a walk through school property my dad saw a vehicle that caught his interest (might have been a new model) so he snapped a picture (it was on a digital camera). A few minutes later there was a school security officer standing in front of him asking him what he was doing and asking him to delete the pictures he took.
I really do have to wonder if some of these auditors really step way beyond the line of what's right in an effort to catch the officials doing what they shouldn't be. These officers showed incredible restraint, I commend them
that supervisor appeared to know his job and was very patient. he showed that he didnt want to make an arrest. hes smart because im sure hed rather be involved with something more productive.
THIS is why I love this channel. "....sort out the who and what, and the RIGHT and WRONG of police interactions." AtA doesn't follow any one point of view, only what legal precedent says can and can't happen. Thankyou so much!
Yeah, not sure if that will fly at a school. Some rando walking around filming inside.
Nope, just nope. There is zero chance this guy has any rights to access a school in this manner.
As a resident of Cleveland Ohio, we do not claim this guy.
Thank you!!!
Most Audit channels only show Tyrant Police interactions. We often do not get to see when an officer would get an "A" rating. Your fact based investigation also helps the community understand that there are bounds and where lines can be crossed, which I find missing on other channels. Auditors should not operate in a vacuum. I'm sure, if this Auditor had a conversation with other educated Auditors, like yourself, it would have served the community better. This also allows the community some context on when or if they should speak up in an Auditors defense.
Again, thank you for Auditing this Audit.
When he says “The level of stupidity *your* about to witness…”
Priceless.
You're *
@@jenniferlonnes7420 duh?
@DavidFerree54 Knowing the difference between "your" and you're * - priceless.
@@jenniferlonnes7420 being so unbelievably stupid that you can't see that I was pointing out exactly that. * - beyond priceless 😂😂
My, aren't you the One-upper, just like Penelope on SNL. You feel better about yourself now?@DavidFerree54
Not the Dr pepper in one hand with the nikon looking camera in the other. This guy is a real character