I haven't watched yet- but really wanted to say that I'm glad you're back. I hope you've managed to snap out of the funk. Unlike most people, you have thousands of people interested in what you have to say and do, but more importantly, in how you're doing.
I was just checking the other day to see if you had posted videos and I just wasn't seeing them. Pretty stoked to see 2 new uploads today and featuring bullets I've been eyeballing to boot. Thanks!
Johnny, Its awesome to have you back behind the bench! Its great to hear your all healed up too. As always, awesome vids to watch and learn. I just got my 243 WIN dies last week, gonna start into that project this weekend. I cant wait for that. Take care and Aim straight!!
Good to see you back. Need to patch the holes in your bench from the primer shenanigans. Got to get me an electric flyswatter to see if it will set off primers.
Just watching the video right now, glad to see you back man. It is a known issue with the Tikka's that big turret scopes really have issues with ejection. The cases will always knock the turret and fall back into the ejection port. I would also be interested to see the 39 to 40 grain groups (and possibly some a tad hotter) in the Tikka without the magneto speed on the barrel to see if the POI shifts any.
Hey, been a while man, appreciate your videos, I started to load myself after watching some of your videos. I started with 9mm and going to start 308 and 40 s and w soon. Love them. Keep goin!
That's awesome to hear, man! 40 will be no sweat. Pretty much the same as 9mm. 308 is a great rifle cartridge to start with as well. So many bullets, powders, and info out there. Good luck, brother!
Johnny's Reloading Bench I'm right there to. finally jumped in with both feet. I just hope my wife doesn't look at the visa statement.... keep the video's coming!
New to the videos. Been enjoying your 223 series. Ive been using ramshot powders for about a year or so now and have been pretty happy with them. While i prefer powders like h110 for magnums, ive had decent results with ramshot enforcer. Ive also been using xterminator in rifles like 5.56 and 45-70. Im no target shooter and i live in the country, so anything that does "minute of that thing trying to kill my animals" works for me. Bad coyote problem and a lot of bear here. Ramshot and shooters world have been the easiest powders for me to find lately.
I like how you are incorporating an average hunting rifle into the mix. a big old pile of deer have been put in the freezer with the savage rifles. It nice that someone out there is doing tests of the older common rifles of yesterday.
I had not thought of using x-terminator for .308 and was using it for .223 instead. IMR 3030 has always worked and I just recently discovered the magic of Accurate LT-30. Stuff is March quality for sure but the velocity works. Anyway I used 44 grains of X terminator the other day using a 150 Barnes TSX with Lake City LR brass and CCI military 7.62x51 primers. Really excellent results!
After trying to reload for my DPMS model SASS .308 with many different types of brass and powder and different bullets I found that my 1/10 twist heavy barrel likes 175 gr. BTHP the best. I have tried bullet weights from 145-175 and have used many, many factory loads of "match grade" ammo. The most accurate powder so far has been Varget. The most accurate brass has been Lapua, Norma and brass from Lake City LR ammo that the military uses for their M118 LC LR ammo. I have not been able to try changing my OAL to seat the bullet closer to the lands because my magazine does not work with ammo near that length. I have thought about loading some longer rounds and just feeding them in one at a time. Maybe some time soon. I spend of lot of time fussing over brass prep and have even gone to neck turning all my brass to make it more uniform. I only use Federal 210 M primers and check every round for concentricity . I have learned that the micro movements of the rifel when shooting from a bipod and rear mono-pod throw off the results. If I want to measure accuracy of the round that I make, I need to keep the rifle more steady, so I use a Caldwell Lead Sled solo. Keep up the great videos that you are making. They are fun and informative. I know I will never be able to try every type of powder, bullet etc. so it helps a lot to see what other people get from their results.
I think you should keep going with those charge weights starting at 40.5 up to 41.5 and see what happens. Looks like the Savage wanted to start grouping at 40
Johnny, I am wondering about the scope on the Savage. the minute you adjusted the elevation the group tightened up incrediblly. The higher the velocity the lower the groups should generally go, BUT in the Savage's case it was all over and in fact went up. Before totally dismissing, I would take a look at the scope on the Savage, were you at the high end of the elevation? The spreads don't make sense.
welcome back brother! It looks like the Savage was trying to group on the higher end as well... May be worth looking into a higher load in that rifle too.
Looks like, as usual, higher pressure loads are the way to go. As in the final Savage group tightening up, and the last two Tikka groups printing in the same relative spot on the target. On a different topic, do you think that the chrono hanging, and maybe moving, on the front of the barrel may mess with barrel oscillations?
The MK319 has a very similar look where the mouth of the case is at a recess in the bullet. I’ve used a lot of sost ammo in 5.56 and 7.62 and it’s never been a problem.
I am interesting in both .223 and .308 cal. reloading. I have been looking at this and other related videos, all of yours. I would like to make some comments regarding your target groups. 1. you adjust your zero in the middle of shooting without documenting it or taking that into account back at the bench. This brings me to comment 2. After watching many of your range videos, I notice that you get excited when you have 'a' nice group. Though I have never heard you say it, you are using the OCW method of load development. The most important thing you should take away from a range trip is the relative location of each group center at each point of aim, not the group size(s). If you happen to have two or more similarly located group centers that also have small group sizes, great!, but first and foremost are the relative POIs. 3. I suggest that you make an additional four rounds of each powder charge and shoot them without the bayonet device on your barrel to see how your POIs compare. That is best done in the second row at the same event and on the same day. The last two groups on the Tikka look good both in relative POIs and group sizes. If all indicators of pressure limit on the shells are good, I would be curious to see the results of another step up in powder charge if the data books give you a warm feeling to do so. If that higher group is close to the POIs of the last two and it did not open up too much I would make up some 39.7 or 39.8 cartridges for further tests. Of course, that all depends on what your groups look like when that bayonet is removed from your barrel. Regarding the difficulty of chambering the Savage, I am going out on a limb. Were those neck-sized shells previously fired in those two rifles and kept separate all the way to the range? Full-size otherwise. I see good things on your targets that you are not looking for or noticing IMO. mainly because I think you are forgetting the purpose of the OCW method. I sincerely hope this will help you in the future. I enjoy your format and the opportunity to participate.
Ordered my 308 dies this morning just need to get primers powder and bullets lol. My dad's stolen 308 was recently found at a pawn shop so now I have one to reload for. Plus my grandpa's tikka t3x he won in a raffle
Well I shot the last 39 of those 145s Johnny had in my 300 Win Mag Match chambered 28" Criterion. I chose to load over 76 through 82 grains of Reloder 26 and the top two loads of 81 and 82 grains shot under an inch at 3450-3500 fps. I just loved it like Johnny had for seating to that top groove and left me just in the throat with both rings even as short as the mag is. Sd was under 10 from 79 up except 81. But ballistic brick so under 400 is PBR...1000 it already breaks the sound barrier starting from 3497fps. So long range is probably pointless. Also 1660 fps I think it was at 600 yards so getting slow.....but 400 in would be devastating. Ejection was fine and 82 grains was lightly compressed.
Love your videos man, keep em coming. If you want a free stippled pmag let me know, I'm kind of good at it and I like helping you youtubers out, seeing as you keep me entertained during the dead hours working 911 dispatch
something is wrong with the savage you have already measured the throat of the chamber? check the headspace and free that barrel (wood and the magnetospeed) double check the screws, great videos!
I have seen reports where brass projectiles react to copper already present in the barrel, and can affect accuracy (may explain the Savage coming good at the end). Fully clean the barrel of copper before testing, and see how you go.
That Lake City brass that Lehigh used in their testing more than likely has quite a bit less case capacity than the Starling brass you are using. Just an idea about why your velocities were lower.
The long range and fclass guys are all bumping the shoulder back a couple thou. I've done the experiment with neck sizing vs bump vs full length sizing. Obviously gas guns or semi's need full length to function reliably. But your bolt guns will shoot much better with a nice little bump.
do you think that chronograph affects your groups since its attached to your barrel? The whole reason we're told to free float our barrels and have nothing touching is for better accuracy and harmonics. Have you tested your accuracy with and then without the chronograph to see if there is any noticeable difference?
Did you check for actual bullet jump to the rifling with these bullets in either rifle. Savage has a great reputation for shooting almost everything ACCURATLY, much better than higher priced rifles. Tikka also has a great reputation for accuracy, something seems to be wrong. The ogive just seems like it may be further back on this 145 gr's due to their taper than heavier bullets which would make the bullet jump further to actually engage the rifling, IMHO.
I think that any tikka likes about any bullet that you can throw at it as long as you find the powder charge it likes. That being much more important to those rifles more than bullet selection. IMHO
Savage 99 needs a heavier bullet. Maybe 165 or 168 grain. I've owned and have several Savage rifles and seems like most of them like the bullets a little on heavy side but not to heavy. I have one with 18" barrel likes 180gr bullets but my 22" and 24" barrels like the 168gr better than the 150gr. But I have two of the same gun in 308 and they don't like the same bullet weight.
I would put money on it effecting the Savage more than the Tikka for sure.... The Magneto speed is nice but, I went with the LabRadar because I was tired of messing with bayonet.
Hi! Great video, would like to see more on that! :-) I also think spherical powders are the best choice from a metering perspective. So, i looked a bit into this. Accurate powders are mostly or completely (?) produced by Lovex in the Czech city of Semtin, they are also known for their landmark plastic explosive, Semtex (PETN + Plasticiser). But the properties of these Accurate/Lovex powders have been subject to change due to some business hassle, which led to overpressures. They never should be considered "the same". For example, Accurate 2230 is looking very much like Lovex D037.5 in the ballistics and how it looks in eyesight - but there are subtle differences. www.sinnlose.info/Accurate_2230.png www.sinnlose.info/Lovex_D073.5.png. The Ramshot powders, however, are entirely made by PB Clermont in Belgium and present themself mostly as black, perfect, sometimes as flattened spheres. PCL511 is nearly identical with Ramshot Hunter, and Ramshot X-Terminator has features reminding of PCL507. But certainly, these powders are looking a bit different in grainsize. And the ballistics is very close, but not yet identical. www.sinnlose.info/Ramshot_X-Terminator.png www.sinnlose.info/PCL507.png Also, as these powders are generally very heterogenous witch brews, i would recommend to approach each new powder charge with due care, as if it would be quite new material. You never know if some more nitroglycerin slipped in here and there (spherical powders are all double based, containing NG), or drying was over-complete, whatever else could go different. Hartmut was telling me about harsh changes in the staff of vihtavouri - with ensuing pressure changes. Thousands of people load this stuff.... Btw. Lovex / Accurate double base powders are never perfect spheres, all flattened, more irregular and they are more greenish. For sure Ramshot is a great powder choice. I will start reloading towards the end of the year and i hope we can stay in touch experimenting with spherical powders! :-)
You will throw off your barrel harmonics and wreck your accuracy with that thing hanging off your barrel. For this type of load work up, use the other type of chronograph .
I actually have the remaining bullets from Johnny and actively contemplating just that.. or maybe 308 and load some 200.20x in the mag.... not sure....
I haven't watched yet- but really wanted to say that I'm glad you're back. I hope you've managed to snap out of the funk. Unlike most people, you have thousands of people interested in what you have to say and do, but more importantly, in how you're doing.
I was just checking the other day to see if you had posted videos and I just wasn't seeing them. Pretty stoked to see 2 new uploads today and featuring bullets I've been eyeballing to boot. Thanks!
Johnny, Its awesome to have you back behind the bench! Its great to hear your all healed up too. As always, awesome vids to watch and learn. I just got my 243 WIN dies last week, gonna start into that project this weekend. I cant wait for that. Take care and Aim straight!!
Good to have you back Man !! Hope your healing up well.
Thanks, brother! The ankle is back to 100%! I'm ready for a summer of hiking around KY elk country.
Didn't know you were from Kentucky! It's a small world.
Thanks for the sharing bro , I watched this video before but wanted to do it again for great info you have provided, thanks and have a great day.
Good to see you back. Need to patch the holes in your bench from the primer shenanigans. Got to get me an electric flyswatter to see if it will set off primers.
Try shooting for groups without the magnetospeed since it throws your barrel harmonics way off.
Glad to have you back. Was thinking of driving up to check on you!
Looking to hunt piggies with one of these bullets in the 458 SOCOM.
Just watching the video right now, glad to see you back man.
It is a known issue with the Tikka's that big turret scopes really have issues with ejection. The cases will always knock the turret and fall back into the ejection port.
I would also be interested to see the 39 to 40 grain groups (and possibly some a tad hotter) in the Tikka without the magneto speed on the barrel to see if the POI shifts any.
Hey, been a while man, appreciate your videos, I started to load myself after watching some of your videos. I started with 9mm and going to start 308 and 40 s and w soon. Love them. Keep goin!
That's awesome to hear, man! 40 will be no sweat. Pretty much the same as 9mm. 308 is a great rifle cartridge to start with as well. So many bullets, powders, and info out there. Good luck, brother!
Johnny's Reloading Bench I'm right there to. finally jumped in with both feet. I just hope my wife doesn't look at the visa statement.... keep the video's coming!
New to the videos. Been enjoying your 223 series. Ive been using ramshot powders for about a year or so now and have been pretty happy with them. While i prefer powders like h110 for magnums, ive had decent results with ramshot enforcer. Ive also been using xterminator in rifles like 5.56 and 45-70. Im no target shooter and i live in the country, so anything that does "minute of that thing trying to kill my animals" works for me. Bad coyote problem and a lot of bear here. Ramshot and shooters world have been the easiest powders for me to find lately.
I like how you are incorporating an average hunting rifle into the mix. a big old pile of deer have been put in the freezer with the savage rifles. It nice that someone out there is doing tests of the older common rifles of yesterday.
Welcome back. Good to see you back.
The bands provide less contact with the rifling, since the solid copper is harder than lead. The new Hornady CX videos explain this concept.
I had not thought of using x-terminator for .308 and was using it for .223 instead. IMR 3030 has always worked and I just recently discovered the magic of Accurate LT-30. Stuff is March quality for sure but the velocity works. Anyway I used 44 grains of X terminator the other day using a 150 Barnes TSX with Lake City LR brass and CCI military 7.62x51 primers. Really excellent results!
it's about time brother
Yeah, yeah...I know. Thanks for waiting!
Loving your videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge and ideas.
Johnny, the difference is listed in the load sheet, they used Lake City 7.62x51 NATO brass, smaller case capacity!
Awesome shooting man, some of the best groups I've seen on your channel. I'd like to see you tweak them a bit more and hunt with them! Great video
After trying to reload for my DPMS model SASS .308 with many different types of brass and powder and different bullets I found that my 1/10 twist heavy barrel likes 175 gr. BTHP the best. I have tried bullet weights from 145-175 and have used many, many factory loads of "match grade" ammo. The most accurate powder so far has been Varget. The most accurate brass has been Lapua, Norma and brass from Lake City LR ammo that the military uses for their M118 LC LR ammo. I have not been able to try changing my OAL to seat the bullet closer to the lands because my magazine does not work with ammo near that length. I have thought about loading some longer rounds and just feeding them in one at a time. Maybe some time soon. I spend of lot of time fussing over brass prep and have even gone to neck turning all my brass to make it more uniform. I only use Federal 210 M primers and check every round for concentricity . I have learned that the micro movements of the rifel when shooting from a bipod and rear mono-pod throw off the results. If I want to measure accuracy of the round that I make, I need to keep the rifle more steady, so I use a Caldwell Lead Sled solo. Keep up the great videos that you are making. They are fun and informative. I know I will never be able to try every type of powder, bullet etc. so it helps a lot to see what other people get from their results.
I think you should keep going with those charge weights starting at 40.5 up to 41.5 and see what happens. Looks like the Savage wanted to start grouping at 40
Johnny, I am wondering about the scope on the Savage. the minute you adjusted the elevation the group tightened up incrediblly. The higher the velocity the lower the groups should generally go, BUT in the Savage's case it was all over and in fact went up.
Before totally dismissing, I would take a look at the scope on the Savage, were you at the high end of the elevation? The spreads don't make sense.
welcome back brother! It looks like the Savage was trying to group on the higher end as well... May be worth looking into a higher load in that rifle too.
Johnny! We missed you. Hope everything is going well.
Things are going well! I'm hoping to get off my ass and start posting more regularly. We'll see how that plan goes. :) Thanks for watching!
Good to have you back JRB, was worried you hurt yourself.
Any progress on the Rainer 300 wedge bullets?
Keep the videos coming....
I have been exploring some of the older videos, I can wait till see where this load ends up
Looks like, as usual, higher pressure loads are the way to go. As in the
final Savage group tightening up, and the last two Tikka groups
printing in the same relative spot on the target.
On a different
topic, do you think that the chrono hanging, and maybe moving, on the
front of the barrel may mess with barrel oscillations?
The MK319 has a very similar look where the mouth of the case is at a recess in the bullet.
I’ve used a lot of sost ammo in 5.56 and 7.62 and it’s never been a problem.
I am interesting in both .223 and .308 cal. reloading. I have been looking at this and other related videos, all of yours. I would like to make some comments regarding your target groups. 1. you adjust your zero in the middle of shooting without documenting it or taking that into account back at the bench. This brings me to comment 2. After watching many of your range videos, I notice that you get excited when you have 'a' nice group. Though I have never heard you say it, you are using the OCW method of load development. The most important thing you should take away from a range trip is the relative location of each group center at each point of aim, not the group size(s). If you happen to have two or more similarly located group centers that also have small group sizes, great!, but first and foremost are the relative POIs. 3. I suggest that you make an additional four rounds of each powder charge and shoot them without the bayonet device on your barrel to see how your POIs compare. That is best done in the second row at the same event and on the same day. The last two groups on the Tikka look good both in relative POIs and group sizes. If all indicators of pressure limit on the shells are good, I would be curious to see the results of another step up in powder charge if the data books give you a warm feeling to do so. If that higher group is close to the POIs of the last two and it did not open up too much I would make up some 39.7 or 39.8 cartridges for further tests. Of course, that all depends on what your groups look like when that bayonet is removed from your barrel. Regarding the difficulty of chambering the Savage, I am going out on a limb. Were those neck-sized shells previously fired in those two rifles and kept separate all the way to the range? Full-size otherwise. I see good things on your targets that you are not looking for or noticing IMO. mainly because I think you are forgetting the purpose of the OCW method. I sincerely hope this will help you in the future. I enjoy your format and the opportunity to participate.
Tikka rifles are awesome, I’m trying to convince the lady to let me buy another one :x I have the Tac A1 and it’s unbelievably accurate
Ordered my 308 dies this morning just need to get primers powder and bullets lol. My dad's stolen 308 was recently found at a pawn shop so now I have one to reload for. Plus my grandpa's tikka t3x he won in a raffle
That's awesome, brother! Good luck getting started. Lots of fun components to choose from for 308!
Johnny's Reloading Bench I'm hinting about getting 150 grain soft points what ever is cheapest and some lighter ones.
...and he's BACK!
Well I shot the last 39 of those 145s Johnny had in my 300 Win Mag Match chambered 28" Criterion.
I chose to load over 76 through 82 grains of Reloder 26 and the top two loads of 81 and 82 grains shot under an inch at 3450-3500 fps. I just loved it like Johnny had for seating to that top groove and left me just in the throat with both rings even as short as the mag is. Sd was under 10 from 79 up except 81. But ballistic brick so under 400 is PBR...1000 it already breaks the sound barrier starting from 3497fps. So long range is probably pointless. Also 1660 fps I think it was at 600 yards so getting slow.....but 400 in would be devastating. Ejection was fine and 82 grains was lightly compressed.
Love your videos man, keep em coming. If you want a free stippled pmag let me know, I'm kind of good at it and I like helping you youtubers out, seeing as you keep me entertained during the dead hours working 911 dispatch
something is wrong with the savage you have already measured the throat of the chamber? check the headspace and free that barrel (wood and the magnetospeed) double check the screws, great videos!
I have seen reports where brass projectiles react to copper already present in the barrel, and can affect accuracy (may explain the Savage coming good at the end). Fully clean the barrel of copper before testing, and see how you go.
Since I've machined it quite a bit, I've always wondered about developing a bullet made from Aluminum Nickel Bronze.
Something is whacked with the scope on the Savage! Nothing else would explain the crazy patterns.
That Lake City brass that Lehigh used in their testing more than likely has quite a bit less case capacity than the Starling brass you are using. Just an idea about why your velocities were lower.
The long range and fclass guys are all bumping the shoulder back a couple thou. I've done the experiment with neck sizing vs bump vs full length sizing. Obviously gas guns or semi's need full length to function reliably. But your bolt guns will shoot much better with a nice little bump.
Nice vid. LOL.Greathings from the country where Ramshot is made. I use zip tac enforcer x-term wildboar and biggame.
Have you tried more powders with the 308 Win - 145gr Lehigh Defense?
Wonder if TAC would best X-Terminator.....
do you think that chronograph affects your groups since its attached to your barrel? The whole reason we're told to free float our barrels and have nothing touching is for better accuracy and harmonics.
Have you tested your accuracy with and then without the chronograph to see if there is any noticeable difference?
It depends on the gun. This is the first time I've used it on the Savage so it is possible. It doesn't affect my Tikka or ARs very much.
Hey Johnny. The Vortex on your Tikka is the Objective lens hitting your barrel at all? Seems super low. Doubt it is, but something I noticed.
There is a little bit of clearance.
im surprised that the chrony doesnt disturb the barrel harmonics on those rifles
I wonder about the case capacity and availability to max out the case.
Wouldn't the Magnetospeed ruin your barrel harmonics?
Did you check for actual bullet jump to the rifling with these bullets in either rifle. Savage has a great reputation for shooting almost everything ACCURATLY, much better than higher priced rifles. Tikka also has a great reputation for accuracy, something seems to be wrong. The ogive just seems like it may be further back on this 145 gr's due to their taper than heavier bullets which would make the bullet jump further to actually engage the rifling, IMHO.
Thanks!
I think that any tikka likes about any bullet that you can throw at it as long as you find the powder charge it likes. That being much more important to those rifles more than bullet selection. IMHO
Savage 99 needs a heavier bullet. Maybe 165 or 168 grain. I've owned and have several Savage rifles and seems like most of them like the bullets a little on heavy side but not to heavy. I have one with 18" barrel likes 180gr bullets but my 22" and 24" barrels like the 168gr better than the 150gr. But I have two of the same gun in 308 and they don't like the same bullet weight.
I am curious as to weather or not the chronograph has any real affect on the barrel harmonics and overall accuracy?
Man I haven't seen anything shoot well out of that savage yet. Is it possible the barrel crown is damaged?
I'd love to see a 2800fps workup.
have a question. i use win brass with fed mag large primers, what do you think about mag large primers?
That chrono doesn't mess with your barrel harmonics?
It depends on the gun. This is the first time I've used it on the Savage so it is possible. It doesn't affect my Tikka or ARs very much.
I would put money on it effecting the Savage more than the Tikka for sure.... The Magneto speed is nice but, I went with the LabRadar because I was tired of messing with bayonet.
What about testing these in some 300 blackout ?
How times have changed... from $39 for a hundred to $52 for 50.
16.25 more like 26.25 for factory velocity. Maybe a typo?
this was posted 6 years ago. times change
Can you do 110 vmax and H322?
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Hi! Great video, would like to see more on that! :-) I also think spherical powders are the best choice from a metering perspective. So, i looked a bit into this. Accurate powders are mostly or completely (?) produced by Lovex in the Czech city of Semtin, they are also known for their landmark plastic explosive, Semtex (PETN + Plasticiser). But the properties of these Accurate/Lovex powders have been subject to change due to some business hassle, which led to overpressures. They never should be considered "the same". For example, Accurate 2230 is looking very much like Lovex D037.5 in the ballistics and how it looks in eyesight - but there are subtle differences. www.sinnlose.info/Accurate_2230.png www.sinnlose.info/Lovex_D073.5.png. The Ramshot powders, however, are entirely made by PB Clermont in Belgium and present themself mostly as black, perfect, sometimes as flattened spheres. PCL511 is nearly identical with Ramshot Hunter, and Ramshot X-Terminator has features reminding of PCL507. But certainly, these powders are looking a bit different in grainsize. And the ballistics is very close, but not yet identical. www.sinnlose.info/Ramshot_X-Terminator.png www.sinnlose.info/PCL507.png Also, as these powders are generally very heterogenous witch brews, i would recommend to approach each new powder charge with due care, as if it would be quite new material. You never know if some more nitroglycerin slipped in here and there (spherical powders are all double based, containing NG), or drying was over-complete, whatever else could go different. Hartmut was telling me about harsh changes in the staff of vihtavouri - with ensuing pressure changes. Thousands of people load this stuff.... Btw. Lovex / Accurate double base powders are never perfect spheres, all flattened, more irregular and they are more greenish. For sure Ramshot is a great powder choice. I will start reloading towards the end of the year and i hope we can stay in touch experimenting with spherical powders! :-)
You will throw off your barrel harmonics and wreck your accuracy with that thing hanging off your barrel. For this type of load work up, use the other type of chronograph .
Just for fun load these in 300 win mag.
I actually have the remaining bullets from Johnny and actively contemplating just that.. or maybe 308 and load some 200.20x in the mag.... not sure....
I did and posted reply separately
Savage 99's have never been known as an accurate gun. If I can shoot my 99C into a three inch group at 100 yards I consider myself lucky.
Damn things are $1 each now 🤦🏻♂️
Need ar10
go a little hotter
In Australia they are $1.5+ each but I'll buy some for my 30-06 for a giggle