What KILLED Red Dead Online?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2022
- Red Dead Redemption 2's Red Dead Online mode will officially see no further significant content updates, leading to many players proclaiming the game's death. What's the story behind #savereddeadonline? Let's take a look.
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Rockstar killed it.
Of course Rockstar's going to paint it as nobody likes Western games
You stole my comment i commend you😂
The mystery is Solved!
I don't think Rockstar killed it take 2 did maybe the Rockstar did killed it but I believe it was on take 2
Yep
Rockstar dropped the ball big time. If they had no intention of supporting RDO, then they could have at least put some time and effort into some DLC for the main game.
It's sad that such an amazing game got neglected so badly.
Honestly yes if they would have just added story expansions or something like Undead nightmare fans would've been pleased
Yes but GeTeAj five….
@@infamous-riv3ra36 I didn't bother with the game because Red Dead Undead Nightmare Edition didn't come back
you sound like a spoiled brat lol
Sad.. I LOVED playing red dead revolver.. and always loved open world plus western gun slinging games. It was amazing and shouldn't have died out like that... The graphics and game had so much potential, but rockstar HAD to just favor gta5 for the last 3 console generations... (Time to move on)? Just my opinion:(
Multiplayer had such huge potential.
Owning land/houses and buildings (businesses)
Farming
Huge expansions on the bounty hunter/hunting series.
Endless amount of online missions which could of tied in with singleplayer. (bank robberies etc.) Not just 4 missions.
There was so much they could of done to update and keep the game going for years and it would have been the best multiplayer ever.
I am so pissed at the bank robbery thing. The stereotypical western things just don't exist in online. You can rob one bank in the story and thats it. You can steal stagecoaches via the strangers but they don't really have a good story or setup. Or just robbing the good old classic store isn't even possible. Not to mention the bounties you get are insultingly low. 5ct for murder is really sad.
@@Prussia_ I believe you can rob 3 banks in the singleplayer, the one in Valentine, Rhodes, and Saint Denis, the Rhodes one is a side mission with charles and uncle
@@RealDoobieScooby I know about that but you can't do that in multiplayer except the one in Saint Denis
@@Prussia_ ahh my mistake than
All of that could’ve been done in single-player, also. I miss when single player was the main focus. Create new games to be multiplayer, don’t just take single player games and turn them into multiplayer. Or if they must, at least give the solo gamers enough to work with for 5+ years if online is going to stall the next release.
When it first come out I expected to be able to eventually buy stage couches, houses, ranches with animals etc etc but not really a lot happened
Property ownership is one of the things that made gta great they should’ve done that way more than the shitty moonshine shack and the camp
I had the same exact expectations. Imagine they had a John Marston experience? They haven't done anything yet 👎
Over half the stuff they had planned they dropped for more monetary gameplay additions. They couldn't find a way to market and make money off of each extra addition so they dropped them all together
@@justinwaltman5506 and over all the game felt empty and boring after a while
@@oogityboogity6644 moonshine ain’t bad that an bounty hunter role are the only decent ones we should’ve been given properties like gta but as ranches like the guy said, that we can maintain an sell our items to shops or players that would be just one new thing that would make the game already better than what it is
Rockstar's love for GTA Online. Red Dead Online had so much potential, people asked for the ability to buy properties, businesses, ect.
Rockstar doesn't love anything, they only love the money! Lol
@@MostHighEmperorPalpatine this but sheeple keep Defending them
Makes me so sad that never happened man... Just wanted to do heists and buy properties.
@@Zontar82 Take Two is responsible for funding projects, not Rockstar.
There were some really cool online quests, but there could have been so many more and so much cooler quests
When it was first announced I had massive expectations: bank heists, train heists, duels, bar fights, bare knuckle fight clubs, looting, shake downs, cheating in poker, gang hideouts, bounty hunting other players, hunting, home robberies etc, all with doing with friends and against real players. The list is almost endless.
Then it came out and it felt barren, empty, with hardly any of those things in the game, and the ones that were weren’t properly incentivised. The award for completing missions was pathetic and there was no consistency in the game’s economy at all.
Just makes me sad to think that they had a home run on their hands, all they had to do was swing for the fences, and they just didn’t.
If they add everything u said that would be awesome
Honestly fuck rockstar, I’m pissed they only focus on GTA V, like bruh wtf this game has a lot of potential. Gta came out in like 2013, RDR2 is 2018. Fuck them bro for reals man 🤦🏽♂️
I think my biggest problem is that they made promises that they didn't fulfill...
Bro this was my thoughts exactly, hell I woulda had fun if they made it like gta but cowboy mode instead and u can’t say they couldn’t
This exactly
This will be long.
The 2 biggest issues with RD2O was the lack of exclusivity of roles and how they decided to solve the player to player issues. You don't solve a multiplayer issue by introducing systems that enforce solitude and reducing interactions with other players. You do it by giving different venues of interaction, which they had a perfect foundation with the roles. How these roles don't focus more on player interaction is beyond me. The lure of being a bounty hunter is ultimately to hunt other players, not NPCs. Bounty hunter would have been the anti griefer role. To handle griefers, give them an outlaw role where you can control their expression by channeling their actions towards gameplay rather than personal attacks because they are bored. How traders can't buy, sell or exchange items with other players is also beyond me. They should have had much more exclusivity with regards to characters and roles. Its great that each role has special and unique abilities and items, but because you can be all roles at the same time it doesn't quite matter. They should have had one major role per character, like the trader and have that expand into moonshining, or the naturalist expanding into ranching. This along with foucussing on player interaction through the roles would make for a never ending interesting experience.
Picture a scenario where the naturalist who has access to special hunting abilities and tools, gets pelts and trades with the trader, who has the special skill to turn these resources into goods and can sell different items to players and in game stores. And outlaws who have special abilities like to hold people up and gadgets to intercept these goods while in transit. This role can expand into collector, which should just be robberies/bulgrary. The bounty hunter should be able to get hired as a bodyguard for these trading trips and can collect bounties on the most infamous outlaws.
Honestly such an ecosystem would generate endless opportunities for fun. Griefers would have a more meaningful way of interacting with others while anti griefers are now incentivised. Those who like to keep to themselves and just hunt and maybe run a ranch would be naturalists while those who look primarily for profit would be traders who can expand into even owning some of the stores and hotels where other players can come and trade or hang out. This would be amazing also because you could have different characters for these different roles as we all know sometimes you wanna be an outlaw other times the moral hero with no name. Sometimes you want to just hunt and other times you wanna make some money. So just switch characters.
Once Rstar began to implement systems that focused more on isolation to deal with griefers rather than incentivising interactions through defined and satisfying gameplay mechanics, the game began to die. Honestly if i wanted to play solo and not interact with anyone, then theres offline.
Man rockstar should just hire u tbh. This is such a good description with detail and example of what should happen
I can't describe how awesome that sounds
@@matthijsverver7820 right ? I could have sworn we would get at least some variation of these ideas. I know it’s challenging to implement but man they have such solid foundations to do so, it seems the only challenge would be optimization. They already have systems in place for ranching, hunting, burglary, the honor system and much more that they would only have to implement. The issue was not so much griefing, it’s that the most dynamic and engaging method of interaction with another random player was to shoot them and voice chat. That was pretty much it. The pay off for deliveries or intercepting them was so low that when it happened it felt more of a chore to deal with it than an engaging gameplay mechanic. I also think a posse of 7 is too big.
Hope Rockstar hears you man
The biggest issue is you have to grind for hundreds of hours to just look cool.
GTA is fun but RDR is flat out better. Gorgeous world, fun interaction with npcs, AND A GREAT THEME! my friends and I have went back over the past couple months and have even gotten new players to join in! Rockstar needs to give this another look. Even goin back to GTA the controls even feel gross in comparison.
Save RDR!
@C. Haze 2013 headass
well yeah your comparing a game made in 2013 to a game made in 2019 with absolute passion
It ain't happening white boy
Doesnt really matter the difference in their release Rdr2 is still better
@C. Haze I guess you haven't played GTA in the new X/S port? Bc GTA is still a rad lookin game with fun stuff goin on.
I'm legitimately talkin about subject matter and feels you get from it vs GTA.
The tragedy of RDO is that there is so much untapped potential that was completely wasted simply because it wasn't GTA. They could have added heists, properties, stuff to actually spend money on, etc. The single player game is so phenomenal but the online game is just bland and largely empty and the roles boring and monotonous for the most part. This game could have been great had they just supported it a bit.
Being able to buy a ranch or a farm with your posse. Robbing banks and stores. Actually being able to rob people like in story mode! It’s really sad to see what happened to RDO, but we sure as hell know Rockstar isn’t going to do shit about it. Like you said, so much untapped potential…
They should have called it GTA western mod, and it would have drawn a huge crowd.
Oh wow i have never read this exact same comment for 3 years
No, it was doomed from the moment rockstar tried to make it a grindy mess like gta online. They had already gone down the wrong road.
I agree with this. Screw Rockstar for making GTA 6 and shelfing RDO.
The greed and complete lack of support, or even care for this game is what killed it
but didnt they say it was because their working on GTA6?
It probably wasn't making even 100th of the amount of micro transactions that they wanted to do
Not the game, the mode. Red Dead Redemption is an amazing single player game... There are just people that want the online mode to be a second life.
@@glocercok4839 that would be the worst excuse ever
@@glocercok4839 prob gonna stop maintaining servers after gta 6 release wouldnt be suprised lmao
Played since launch, kept coming back now and then hoping for more, first time the game crossed my mind in a while so found myself here, RIP RDR2 was fun while it lasted
story is still fun 🤷♂️
@@LineproofI’ve played the story 50 times. Know it word for word and it still doesn’t get old.
Massive jump in player base in the last 3 weeks. Biggest player base since it first launched and rockstar did a small update today. Fingers crossed
It was bound to die, a cowboy game with no cars, let alone helis and stuff, it just doesn't have the features GTA 5 and Online does and was bound to get stale at some point, unlike GTAO where they can keep adding new cool stuff.
@@wfanking1187 who the hell thinks helicopters or cars were around during the Wild West era? Stick to gta bud.
My theory is Rockstar wasn’t expecting the level of grind players were willing to put in. You would see people with hundreds or thousands of gold bars and how did rockstar react? We’ll just nerf the rate at which you get them, then add two more versions of micro transactions in the game! I’m willing to bet it was abandoned because they didn’t see the level of success with micro transactions that GTA did. Probably because themed items were so limited in RDO vs GTA. Overall shitty situation, I loved this game.
That wasn’t a grind lol a lot of players back then used the treasure chest glitch and where able to get thousands of gold it’s probably why rockstar quit adding stuff because people didn’t need to buy gold anymore everyone had thousands of gold bars lol
I w8sh they would have added story lines from classic western movies like the dollars franchise. Great game.
The grind 100% killed their gold bar revenue
@@morningstar7401 wasn’t a grind” “ *lol* ” uummm “ *LOL* ”
@@morningstar7401 that's a dumbass reason.. do you know how many money glitches there is in GTA
This game had so much potential.
Still has
?? the game is out and complete.
Online potential they meant. Rockstar never gave it the content it deserved. Single player is world class but online leaves a lot to be desired.
@@vamp4495 is gta v out and complete? It seems so story wise but rockstar keeps on adding shit, why can’t they add more shit to rdr2 too? The main online story with Jessica Leclerk isn’t even finished, there’s like 2 or more (idk I don’t remember) main antagonists that had a effect in the main online story and part of the reason why you were framed for a crime at the beginning of online, would that also be considered finished?
@@bayabooz4855 do u not want gta 6?
rather they work on that like they said they’re doing then get red dead dlc.
I’ve played since the beta, because there is truly no other game that is like it.
Red Dead Online is the only way to really feel like you are a cowboy and get that “Wild West” feeling. It truly makes you feel like you have the outdoors at your fingertips. Some of the mechanics are very well done and well thought out, like player ability cards and gunplay. The scenes this game presents you with are breath taking at times, but many of the most beautiful towns just feel so empty now. There are no central player hubs, no community activities, no custom games, no new guns, etc.
At launch, there were hundreds of player roaming this huge world, with simplistic PvP bar fights and town sieges, but afterwards many found that they had nothing to do without PvP. My friends had quit early on because the only way to make money was through hunting one bear every 15 minutes. Rockstar didn’t fix this money issue until an entire year later. There simply wasn’t enough content at the very beginning to keep the community really engaged, and because GTA was such a cash cow, they completely dropped this game early on.
For the past few years, all anyone has really been able to get out of this game is a beautiful nature simulator.
So basically it feels more like the real life Wild West, since there weren't like dozens of cowboys riding past each other all day all over the place back in those days. ;)
For me it is the best game of last generation with a fantastic campaign.
@@sean70729 apologize for your words immediately. It is rightfully a next gen game
Nah nah nah last night I got into the fight of my life on a stage coach mission was totally epic
@@thebarbaryghostsf No, it just feels boring lmao
I’ve played the story 50 times. Know it word for word and it still doesn’t get old.
Just redownloaded game to do just that, tried online and it’s still trash online
Pls tell me how many hours you have 🥺
Sad
@@KadenDressel 6,354 Hrs
@@Opiumdrainer why? I played nothing but Read Dead. It hooked me. I really really enjoyed that everytime I replayed it something new would happen.
Red Dead Online was so fun to play with my brother. I was always hoping that they would expand the story more and maybe even open up Mexico to give us more to explore and interact with since Mexico was still there. There was so much potential they missed out on!
I used to play with friends that enjoyed pve while I was constantly getting in the way of griefers. I would usually hang around popular zones and protect new players from high lvl full gear griefers. After a while people just stopped playing or there would be select groups who kept to themselves and the griefers would either desperately search unpopular areas to cause trouble or they would just go to a pvp match. The game just feels stale now and it's really sad. The design and realism of that game is on a completely different level and I wish it was lively again
The thing that didn’t make sense to me was that, you could only make 1 RDO character profile, which means that if you wanted to explore the clothing differences between the character you made and the opposite gender, you would’ve had to make another account, ex: I used my PSN my dad made for me when I was young, and then just a few months ago I created my own PSN, just to see the differences.
Damn idk what you’re even talking about but I feel the pain and disappointment in your post. Sorry bro.
@@andrewpresley8676 on pc im stuck with one character only :(
try redm rp
@Maniac 5000 u havent played gta online then this game is pretty tame when it comes to hackers or griefers
Such a shame that the online completely flopped. The story mode is still one of the best story games I've ever seen and played.
It didnt flop, far from it. Online alone sold 4 million copies. 20$ each, makes 80million $ . + All the new people who bought gold etc. Its easy about 100 million. The problem is that GTA made idk 500millions in the same time. From a "short term" point of buiseness it makes sense to support the bigger game, but if they would have given just the tiniest amount of love to the game, they would have been 3 to 4 times the money. 90% of the players would buy houses with real money, they would buy DLCs but R* was ignrant and greedy. "Better 10millions today thn 300 million next week" + the problem GTAO also has, a broken economy.... In GTAO its Sharkcards in RDO its Gold. Its real money as an ingame "bonus" in a system that has an ingame inflation beyond imagination ....that itself is insane. BUT what di R* do? GTAO = me make the sharkcard more expensive / RDO here is a 3rd way to pay = Capitale = completly useless but anyway
This. I feel the same about GTA 5. Story was fantastic but I could give a crap about GTA online.
@@ModestPavement GTA online was super fun the first 6 months or so. Then some corporate entity saw a cash cow and decided red meat was on the menu until it was all gone.
@@DingleDobber played it a bit when it first came out. I just play rockstar games for the stories.
"flop" is a strong word. Thing is it was a great experience and successful, but then take2 and R* abandonned it.
Awh man, this made me so sad... I loved this game so much, and it marked a really fun time in my life with my best friend honestly. To see it be thrown away by Rockstar breaks my heart...
Is online really unplayable?
You can still play it you know.
@@SilkyMilkyOriginal yea if you’re fine with getting disconnected mid mission 24/7 and never being able to finish anything
I remember smoking a blunt getting real high, off day, home alone big chillin. I decided to give RDO another shot and got hooked immediately bc how amazing the graphics and wildlife were, fun daily challenges, and fun shootouts. I grinded the game, made cool friends from rdo that I don’t even talk to anymore. Got level 200+ doing everything rdo had to offer. It sucks rockstar is ditching this gem.
Hopefully they’ll come back to it someday
Same. Just started a month ago and i already got all the roles leveled up. They could've added more story missions and maybe property for us to purchase like houses. Unfortunately rockstar already said they are never updating it because they put all their workforce on gta 6, yet they still update the sh*t out of gta 5. Im bored of gta man i got everything in that ho
I got started with it when it came out.. Then I stopped playing it. But then, I had smoked a blunt, dug into story, then got hooked.
What you didn't mention:
1. Since the beginning, we recieved no communication from Rockstar about anything with the exception of the occasional, "We hear you and we will be releasing something soon" post. Yet, despite these they never actually addressed any of the issues brought up from the community, which brings me to my next point you didn't mention...
2. Broken Game Mechanics and Bugs at launch with no word on fixes. This actually continued well into the eventual launch of Frontier Pursuits. One such major bug was animals would not spawn in the world. Especially considering on of the major roles introduced (btw, Frontier Pursuits was released long after launch after droves of people already abandoned the game because there was little reason to play past the incomplete story) was the Trader Role which required hunting. This was not fixed for months even past that date. However, you know what was fixed pretty quick?
3. Player Exploits were "fixed" and punished within days (sometimes hours) of being discovered. Whether it was the infamous Infinite Cougar Exploit or the Collectibles Location Map, anything the players found that actually benefitted the players was corrected almost immediately, and Rockstar would mention it, but ignored the real issues which drove players to find and take advantage of these exploits in the first place.
4. GTA Favoritism. You did mention that GTAO got more attention, yes, but what you didn't mention was just how much. Where they would get constant content and bonuses in their weekly updates, RDO recieved little to nothing. At times the best we would get is a new excuse to sRockstar. world money, but no real reason to. Again, all of this comes with no word from Rockstar.
5. Two years of no significant update. You mentioned Blood Money. What you didn't mention was that it came after two years of no real update. Frontier Pursuits was the only real update we got. The Naturalist update was the update that fixed the animal spawns and introduced a few new minor upgrades. Then absolutely nothing. Finally, we get "Blood Money" with Rockstar giving us a minor bone by teasing "a major update," but what did we get? A new currency to grind which can only be spent to unlock new story missions, and the infamous currency was so rare to find that you ended up spending real world money just to get it, which was an option advertised from the beginning. Frakking CAPITALE...
Rockstar promised an Online Mode that would rival GTAO, and drip fed us just enough to keep us hoping for more. They never intended to do anything with the game and that is clear through their actions. The last year has been the biggest proof of that, in fact. "We hear you and promise great things coming" in response to savereddead. Then a few months later, "Just kidding, we're just telling you we're done." This game has been on lifesupport since day one.
I too love that he skipped the fact RDO got nothing for years but GTA continues to get updates.
You forgot how a major bug came in when they brought the Naturalist update. People couldn't stay in a session for more than 15 minutes, the game was literally unplayable!
@@feathersswissfield8514 I had almost forgotten about that entirely! Yeah, that sort of thing happened frequently. There were quite a few bugs I forgot to mention myself. From loosing all your trader supplies when the game didn't start the delivery mission, to constant crashes... As I said... Lifesupport since day one.
Smaller bugs too. Annoying and not game breaking, bit frustrating when they've persisted over a year, at least. I have long hair irl. So I wanted to make my character have long hair. Joke's on me, because that long hair, if you're otside and not wearing a hat will literally glitch off of your scalp. Wind blowing? Prepare to look like a 2022 hipster with shaved sides. It's been lile that for at least a year now. Find a way to have fun and explore Guarma? Boom, fixed in an hour!
@@TheRealHappyHuntsman Yeah, I scrapped my Native American character because of that glitch.
What's crazy is the complete lack of support for RD2 post launch. Single and multi player.
I think it's all about the revenue. I think the discontinuation of major updates is not coming from number of players but from the number of players that are buying gold in the game. Rockstar made a huge mistake from the beginning letting players to get an insane amount of gold per day doing daily challenges. I remember when the first lockdown started in March 2020 being stuck home I was playing this game and I used to do around 15 full gold bars a day, now o have over 600 gold in the game and around 300k dollars and have nothing to spend on..
Some time later they realised that any major content they add is not good in terms of profit and that players have enough resources to buy anything without purchasing microtransactions; which makes me asking you.. : Is there any business without profit ?
I don't think I've ever bought anything with gold bars...I must have because I only have about 100 and my character is high level... But they've never put anything in the game I was willing to pay gold for. That was their miscalculation. Why allow people to wear the same outfit from grinding that you would otherwise have to pay for? They should have had micro-exclusive content if they wanted people to buy gold
I started playing a month ago, lot of new people playing. I was in a full lobby today where I was the highest level. Constant full lobbies. Game is far from dead.
Yeah, it’s a peak these days. But things were tough before. Most of these are new players, but us old players feel a bit burnt.
Calling RDR2 Online an "escape" is a beautiful word to describe that mode man. For many of us, it really was an escape, especially during 2020 - it brought us together, and for that Wild West roleplaying fun, I will forever be grateful for it.
It really did during those times too. It will live as that game that could’ve been better. Still decent tho
same
My bro and I spent so much time on rdo during that time. It was a buggy mess cause of how many people were in the lobbies, hackers everywhere. Shame it went nowhere cause when its good its great.
I never touched till during lockdown, it was a fun time that was ended too soon.
Forreal
To answer the title. It was Rockstar, rockstar killed it.
Just started playing it again and didn't realize how much I missed visually beautiful always something to do and sometimes just fun riding around doing nothing but exploring. Really is a great game.
it is, it just needs a better LFG system to find people to help or get help from. And maybe the Blood Money stuff could've been a bit more out there.
@@faramund9865 Is the online map different from the campaign?
@@rahul-qm9fi No, why?
I loved this game. Literally thousands of hours into this game. Months of real time 18 hrs a day. 100% the game twice. Every achievement. It’s a beautifully fun game. So sad to admit it’s finally dead.
@Jacob ?
@@Simple_Dave_Jr how old are you
@@XIO80817 am I being trolled? 😂
That’s just sad 18hrs a day
@@leebuck1304 worth it when you locked down lol
I remember falling in love with Red Dead Online, you had this daily missions where if you maintain the streak you could get a mutiplier of gold nuggets, I managed to reach like a 380 day streak, it was insane, I logged in every day for over a year to do at least one daily mission, I managed to get over 1100 gold bars, it was fun, I was getting ready for properties, houses, new roles, businesses. Is such a shame man, the game was amazing, had so much potential but Rockstar probably expected another money printing machine like GTA online, and it seems the monetization in Red Dead Online was not the best for them, for the greedy cunts that run the company
Exactly right. I played the ABSOLUTE shit out of this game!!! That's pretty much exactly what I did as well, and was getting ready for properties and stuff. Then, the content just STOPPED coming. It just got boring, no real heists or anything like that. Hell, I'd rather play the story...
Well gta online only became profitable for rockstar when they put their work in at the beginning it was the same with gta online
How comes you can drop the C bomb but I always get censored?
This is ballsheet!
@@KyleSetFire maybe autocorrect on mobile? If on desktop, I think it would be fine.
@@awolnation2446 RUclips literally deletes my comments if I swear 😒
I was really sick and stressed in 2019-2020 and I absolutely lived in this game. I used to spend most of my free time there and was even involved in RDO communities outside of the game servers. I used to throw parties at my bar and it was always such a fun time getting fake (or real) drunk with random people that saw my invites and felt inclined to join. It's such a shame that Rockstar gave up on it so quick. :/ I understand that the player count probably wasn't as high as they wanted it to be in the early days, but it always spiked when new content was added. People are just bored doing the same shit over and over again. I don't think it would ever reach GTA Online levels, but if they had simply kept up with releasing new content then the player count would be way higher than it is now.
Gta had much more cool stuff like this though all pay to play or months of grinding worth though
I think player wound would still have dropped with 1 update each season. The online just wasnt as replayable and never would be
bruh sad
I don’t get why people play gta online still lmao it’s boring prob cause they have nothing more fun to do
What also killed it for me and I think many other players is Rockstar limiting ways to make money with the collected role and daily challanges recieving huge nerfs.
For those who played the OG RDR game…..you KNOW what a real Wild West game felt like. There will be nothing like it ever again. Hell, just the special mounts you could unlock for leveling up MADE me keep playing. R.I.P. Red dead…you deserved better
Meh it was alright somehow water killed you lol
@@JonDoe-gi5zf mans can't swim 🤷♂️
I was really in it for the zebra mount...
@@JonDoe-gi5zf the cartoony fun was welcome the seriousness was the story. Kinda like gta4. Rdr online was fun until rockstar gave it to the modders
@@devilface97 it was ok i played it and had fun with it. But people overhyped tf out of it.
I think it could be saved without adding new content we haven’t seen. If they added all the dope features from single player that would be more than enough
yup
Rockstar and it’s obsession with GTA 5 killed it.
Red dead 2 was superb but sorry Cars > horses
They could have done so much but chose not to
@DreSaidSo Funnily enough, that was my main reason not to even try RDR2's multiplayer. The complete garbage that was GTA Online, hackers and griefers and all, made me avoid any and all Rockstar multiplayer endeavours.
Ummm, no.
@@-never-gonna-give-you-up- are you special ed that’s exactly what killed this shit💀💀
I played this a ton over the years. I kept on hopping in and out with the updates. The game felt like it was building to something & I felt like I was saving for something big. I assumed a next gen version would get released, then more updates would follow. Similar to how GTA went.
It's a shame to hear that's not going to happen.
Cheers to RDO
🗣🗣🗣
Game died, RIP
what killed it for me was the rampant hacking and subsequent griefing. such a gigantic oversight to leave in the modding capabilties.
It's funny how they don't listen to the fan base, but once a fun exploit is discovered, it's patched Immediately
I remember the first time I played rdo, not long after it released, I finished pretty much everything that I could possibly do in the story mode and then made the move to online.. and I fell in love with it immediately .. I played it for a solid 2 years straight on almost a daily basis, it just had so much potential.. but the more I played the more flaws and short comings I noticed, but they were dropping good content at first, keeping me coming back, keeping the game feeling fresh wirh new things to do mixed with the old things.. but now, it’s been more than a year since they’ve made any update at all, and it’s been 2 years since they dropped anything significant.. rhe game became boring and repetitive and I stopped playing all together since last shmmer.. it’s too bad rockstar doesn’t want to evolve this world the way they did with gta online, but hey, it was great while it stayed fresh but now it’s become so stale it’s not even edible anymore and rockstar has made it known that they have no intentions of refreshing the game anymore
😞such a shame, glad to hear you got to experience it in its hayday though, I started playing rdo october 2021 💀got a glimpse of the last outlaw pass i couldn't afford i guess lol
@@dutchsburlychest6793 It was broken as hell but I was loving every minute of their rdo beta, the hope I had for this game, fuck you R* just fuck you never touching a gta product again
"Fuck you, buy GTA V again." - Rockstar, probably
Not "probably", it's "most definitely"
One thing I hate about the online is the missions having time limit
I had some of the most fun ever during the time between introduction of the first 3 roles. Then all the animals vanished for months and the game was frustrating. Never did anything to bring people back.
The main problem was getting money. I mean, they could have done the same as they did with GTA online. Buy a business and lets do some heists. Throw in some races, and have some open lobby money making machines. We just miss some big heists to make some big bucks without endless grinding. As a trader, you need to hunt constantly, which becomes boring
It got a lot easier once you maxed out all the specialist roles, but yeah, it’s rough until then.
I wish we could do heist in rdr2
Get a job bounty hunting rd2
they couldve gotten creative maybe even farms and ranches as buisnesses
blood money was supposed to be that, it's fairly fun but lacks depth and multiplayer aspect.
Been playing RDO from the start, I never went hard at it but I always would come back to it and play it with my friends and have a blast. I hate that the only way to get a response out of any big corporation now is to just make a big fuss and hope it works. I hate to see this game go, it had one of the most wholesome and kind communities out there. Hell it’s biggest clan is dedicated to helping new players and stopping griefers and cheaters.
We fought the good fight, and we lost.
I tip my hat to this community, one legend to another.
Right there with ya, I couldn't have said it better myself. I've been here since the beginning of the online game and pre ordered the most expensive edition of the normal game, so I definitely hate to see it go. I'll definitely continue to play, just won't be the same.
Who are you? Are you really a legend?
Dude you are not a real cowboy. Definitely no legend. Cut it out
@@kyleandrew7962 life sucks so much for you that you resort your time to making comments like that? Lol, good grief.
Lmaoo relax "cowboy"
I really had fun with the game for a while. For a good year I played it every evening after work with a friend. Then suddenly updates stopped coming and we lost interest at some point. The game had so much potential. But what baffles me to this day is that they offered the online mode separately at some point. I briefly had hope that they would make an effort again and bring updates...
I started playing the game around sometime this year, I mainly just got it so I could play with my 2 friends. It was fun when they played with me but it got boring when they were offline bc there were not many people playing and I like watching people blow up things and fight each other. But there were like only 8 at most in the servers I got spawned in. I like the little mission (?) things like the king of the castle and stuff like that! They were super fun and lots of other players would play it too! I had some good memories on that game even though I have not played it for that long I want to play it more just my online subscription ended and I already owe my sister like $100 so I will have to wait to play the game again lol.
I'm not surprised after such a long time that no one was playing.
Honestly, it really makes me depressed that Red Dead Online failed. I absolutely adored Red Redemption 2 and I was so unbelievably excited for the Online mode - and as soon as it released and I experienced it for a few days, it was a real bummer to feel disappointed over it. Returning to it later, and I still felt that disappointment. GTA Online was largely successful, as was, more importantly, Red Dead Online (1), so why did Red Dead Online (2) fail? Maybe I should return to it, but now I don't have any friends who play the game. The world is absolutely beautiful and a joy to explore, so to do so with friends was just like a dream - but then, when realising there was a lack of heists, properties, and so forth, it felt as if the roleplay element just wasn't there. So yeah, it's a real disappointment, and I would refute your statement that the reception was positive in the Online Beta - I don't remember the feedback being over-the-moon by any means at all. I don't know, maybe I was just feeling fatigue after playing RDR2 for a month and a half beforehand. Maybe I'll return to it someday, because as much as I feel a lingering dissatisfaction to towards the mode, I do admittedly miss that world (I've only played RDR2 once, as I only play games once often), and would love to explore it again, with the fun bonus with other players - as you beautifully said, Jake, an escape :)
I actually think Rockstar didn't really consider the slow burn of this game. I waited a long time before I even bought it. I know a lot of people who did the same thing. I played through the campaign for the first time in 2022. It's one of the best games I've ever played. I joined Online and am still playing. I think if they not only supported game updates, but also continued to promote the game, they'd see slow and steady growth.
That being said, I think in the long term video game culture might change where rather than focusing on 1-3mo sales or 3-6mo sales a game might be measured like No Man's Sky in its long term ability to generate new and sustained players. I'm getting a bit old as a gamer but when I was a kid new games came out every few months and we'd move on quickly. These days I've got games like GTA5 and Skyrim that are about as old as my nephews. I've played games so long they started playing them too.
Honest answer: Rockstar's greed.
I remember a while ago a bunch of these big AAA companies were like "don't blame us for putting loot boxes and microtransactions in our games because people buy them, we're creating things that there is a demand for..." but now if people get sick with all the "games as service" BS and don't buy it, Rockstar doesn't release a great single player expansion (Undead Nightmare 2, etc) instead they just shelf the whole thing.
Maybe if they focused on GTA as their big continuous service, and also released great single player titles like RDR2, Bully 2, LA Noire 2 and Max Payne 4 alongside GTA Online, they'd have a lot more success.
Success isn’t the issue they are legitimately the most successful gaming company, its the fact like you said they shelve stuff almost as a punishment for people being upset with them. Like when they outsourced the GTA trilogy which ended up garbage so because it got bad reviews they shelved a GTA 4 and RDR remake. They are going in a really bad direction, thats why most of the company higher ups left
@@PICFL1 Rdr remake was shelfed?! GAWD DAMMIT!
I remember thinking it was extremely fun until I ran into players with explosive bullets, I knew the funniest aspect (pvp) was just gonna be getting stun locked with the mini explosions constantly knocking you down, I looked at the price for those and they were expensive (by design), would take a purchase of gold to obtain them, and I knew immediately, roclstar dug red dead online's grave
Too many 12 year olds who got bullied at school looking to prove their manhood by shooting others for fun. Nothing like five kids running around trying to make themselves feel big. It made rd2 online a joke.
up until they cut the daily rewards you could get explosive ammo pretty easily actually, i managed to get 99% of the shit in the game up until then and didn't spend a dime, then they cut the daily rewards and i stopped playing because i had no reason to keep going.
@@lostwizardcat9910 you stayed way too long
for me it was gold exclusive anything, nah fam charge more money for the copy
nickle and diming in a triple A title isn't acceptable, especially with a classic
imagine if you could buy constant rocket launchers in halo . . . or pay $5 to replace your queen in online chess
it was genius to release online wayy after the actual game, every single disc was unrefundable
luckily single player is brilliant, and worth several hundred hours alone (over years ofc)
@@NymbusCumulo928 im not defending them lol they are a shit company with shit practices but they put out good single player, thats all i buy it for
It was fun until they removed everyone's blimp on the map, i mean it's the wild wild west wtf bro if your going to cry about running into violent players get yourself a possy
I never actually played Red Dead online. I always get sucked into the single player story. I'll have to check it out. Great video 👍
By level 100 there’s nothing to do, I literally got every role (besides naturalist) to max level, got all the guns I wanted, got them customised, got a couple cool outfits. And then that was basically it. You can’t rob trains, stores, banks, it’s lacking roles major. Yeah, it’s extremely empty.
@@w4976. you can't rob trains !!!?!???? You can't rob stores!!!!?????!?
@@thenotorioustaha Nope, in story you can, but in online you can’t, trains don’t even have anything on, just a driver and that’s it.
@@w4976. what !?
What RDR2 really needed is a high quality SINGLE PLAYER DLC! Arthur is one of the best video game characters of the last decade 👌
Undead nightmare 2
Played this game since launch and met my best friend on there while in Guarma (glitch). Made some amazing memories and loved every minute. It’s very unfortunate Rockstar doesn’t see the potential RDO has. My friend and I even dressed our characters up in simple attire and chose a relaxing and cosy place up in the mountains to “live out our lives”, then we turned off the game never to start it up again. It’s dumb but it puts out mind at ease a little. RIP Red dead online, thanks for the memories.
I love that
Have not played the online for some time. Just game the story a replay though, I missed so much the firs time through. Game was great, graphics, mechanics, etc. For me it was those certain players that went out of their way to destroy you...shoot your horse and run off, wave hello then follow you around for days murdering you. I get that was a big part of their online experience. Some of us, well me, loved the trapping, hunting aspects. I would say hello to other players and continue on my way tracking animals and trying to get all the outfits. It got to the point Id have to quit out of a server and rejoin, just to get 2 seconds of peace. I would never expect any other gamer to change their playstyle for me, but if you see me not griefing you, or maybe creeping thru the woodline after some stupid pelt...maybe just let me be. Not like I was Rip'n your horse or crew. That's what killed the online experience for me.
So true. I'll be the first to admit I'm not a great game player. My reflexes aren't those of a teenager. Nor can my eyes refocus as quickly as they used to. I joined the online game when it first came out because I thought it would be fun to play further in the world. Unfortunately, my enjoyment only lasted a short time. At first, it seemed that players were being polite and having fun, but rapidly the trolls showed up and made it almost impossible for a player of my caliber (Look, I admit I'm not great.) to be successful. That's just not fun.
A lot of people still play Red Dead Online. I just picked it up again due to the SaveRedDead hashtag, and all the worlds I've played in online had tons of people in them.
I'm surprised Rockstar didn't care for RDR2 Online; it would have been successful if kept updated, no doubt. So, it does surprise me, and I heavily question, why Rockstar didn't bother updating and staying dedicated to it. They would have had two massive money pools rather than one. There's no evidence for a lower player count being a worthy factor to argue why Rockstar didn't bother updating the online mode when the beta rolled out - more updates over time would have created more attraction, attention, and a naturally larger playerbase.
i’m gonna repeat myself.
this game has so much potential. SO MUCH.
edit: we STILL, STILL STILL STILL don’t have private/invite only lobbies, heists, npc robberies, store robberies, properties, or vehicles.
i would still love a farm update. raising your own cattles, having your own dog. But sucks R* cares more about GTA
That's why redm exists on pc I have been having so much fun actually rping and having fun with my friends robbing people and doing outlaw stuff
I really enjoyed this game. My brother got it for me on a Steam Sale for $5.00. For 5 bucks it is an absolute blast. Regardless I would later buy Gold Bars in game and enjoyed the use I got out of those too. Despite the fun I did have, I always wanted more. Be that a better and more expansive story (like a range war), the return of "Undead Nightmare" except now across a bigger and much wider world, the ability to go into all those pretty looking buildings in San Denise, etc. Problem is I don't think players spent enough to justify the production cost of any new signifigant content added (that or the game's writers just did'nt know what to do and did'nt want to add any paranormal elements like Undead Nightmare II because they take themselves seriously or some stupid bullshit like that). Not that the RDO world ending is because of players not spending more money on a game they already bought. Instead I just think GTAO was more popular (no idea why) and apparently the safer and more profitable bussiness model I suppose. Then again, the failure of their Classic GTA Rereleases might have something to do with them diverting reasources. Aww well, looks like our time is up partners. World don't want us no more. Happy trails...
If I could set an actual defensive mod where if I don't engage other players, they can't hurt me, then I would have played RDO a whole lot more, or if there's a Rock* supported private session option.. I don't mind getting griefed from time to time, or getting chased as a trader or moonshiner. But the hackers... I mean, getting bears spawned around me nonstop or keep getting blown up gets old real quickly..
Loved the story, but the lack of an invite only lobby online is what killed it for me when it first came out. Just don’t care to deal with griefers. I still play GTAV private lobbies with friends. I doubt this would have made much of a difference for Rockstar, but this one thing would have been a game changer for me.
I used to do console RP communities, but the lack of invite only lobbies and constant, unsolved bugs eventually killed it.
Such a shame Rockstar let this one go. Crazy amount of wasted potential. They clearly want to continue their current business model with GTA, but personally I (and many others, I'm sure) am just not all that interested in GTA Online.
Ive made my own stories and lore. Ive made a accurate cold weather solider (U.S. Ranger type) And just patrol in the Grizzly's. I shoot & or "tag" animals with the varmint rifle, I hunt legendary bounties in the snow, I do missions for Hamish & the Adlers, clear out local gang hideouts, and do trade runs and moonshine runs as "military deliveries". It's honestly really fun when you use your imagination to fill in the story for yourself.... just wish I didn't have to. I wish there had been more.
Once I get my new pc, I'm definitely going onto RedM
it's a perfect game for role-play lol i'm seeing a lot of people who take it slow on co op and just play along, it's so fun to watch with a beer and a joint after work lol
It’s such a shame because I never got that much into gta online but rdr2 online carried that same immersion that the story had just alongside others. But when a game is kinda left to die it just kills the whole experience
It’s sad to see such a great online game die as fast as it did. I think that to all of us, RDO was like our own escape from reality and from gta online. A place where people could come together and have fun, and not just be killed from oppresser kids in gta servers.
It was truly a magical place, and I will continue to play for as long as I can and meet people who love the game as much as I do
Rest In Peace RDO, you will be missed and loved by many
I get what you're saying but RDO has no shortage of griefers either, GTAO is obviously worse due it's bigger player count and more ways of griefing but i've had plenty of bad encounters in RDO so i wouldn't praise it that much. It's ultimately R*'s utter commitment to not give two shits about creating a reward/punishment system for good/bad players.
@@piccoloatburgerking facts me and my horse were dragged and burned my first playthrough online 😂😂😂 people are just as annoying on RDO as GTA Online
I think for most of us it was just the graphical atmosphere that we were just able to enter in and be in aw and feel like we actually inside the game. At least for me this was the case. And the major things to do in the game were more reason to continue. It’s a new change of pace when u wanna take a break from a lot of pvp and just have fun being a cowboy. I would even pull a Minecraft and just fish for hours without care because it was soothing. Really anywhere u go u have a sense of soothness even at the swamps because of how much it felt so authentic compared to most games. I just wish there was more that could have been done because the fan base is there but if only rock star was a consumer friendly company.
Story mode is way better for these things. They sacrificed too much realism for online, imo... They don't even have random events, i don't see why they couldn't incorporate these in an online world :/
@@fukukyun78 well it wouldn’t be hard the community itself is creative enough and big enough to come up with ideas and rockstar use that as brainstorms. The fans clearly care about this game even online and I wouldn’t say it’s impossible to build off the world that they have because they have so much source material from history to the fans to even just being creative and it fitting into the cowboy theme itself without it being too broken
The Witcher 3 gave me a similar feeling, sometimes I'd just stand in Velen or by my house in the Blood and Wine DLC and admire the world and art, that game was also amazing as well
They should just allow private lobbies, so that we could all enjoy this very rich world with friends.
We could fish, hunt animals, hunt treasures, domesticate wild horses, assault wagons or trains, race on horses ...or just enjoy some horse trips through the beatiful scenery.
As it is, online is nothing but a shoot'em'up for kids.
@@fukukyun78 Story mode doesn't allow co-op
1. Too many modders on PC.
2. You can't do crew only sessions.
3. There is no Rockstar Editor...
Fix those 3 things, and it would be so perfect it would almost be unreal
I was thinking that far into this game they would’ve added a circus or a few festivals or more interactive events/ in game events to celebrate the awesomeness of rdr2. But that was just a dream. Sad to see it go down.
If rockstar actually delivered on what content the community wanted, then Red dead online would’ve been thriving now
1. Shark card sales
2. Rockstar thinking it wasn't profitable anymore because it didn't generate as much as GTA 5
3. Just rockstar
I just started my online play through like 2 weeks ago . It's not bad really . Still haven't ran out of stuff to do yet lol
This gave me some hope to start my own play through. Thanks friend.
Yeah and i’m playin it for 3,5 years and believe me its fucking dead
I’ve been playing for 2 yrs. Eventually you’ll come to a point where you’ll realize rockstar dropped the ball.
Yess obviously grinding for gold bars to get all the roles. Doing all the legendary bounties, hunting all the legendary beasts and getting the best horse whilst collecting some collectibles as well along the way. The game is only a bit fun upto this point and then Dead 💀
just got it this week, I'm gonna play online with at least one friend. Such a great main game so far surely people just wanted to experience more content in the awesome world they made
Sad part is me and some friends love RDO and would still play if Rockstar gave a damn. It's just embarrassing and sad we don't have any properties, ranches, or anything substantial that would be easy for them to do. I moved on because they did. If I had a legit business or some properties I would get on and grind but they just destroyed a beautiful mode with so much potential
This game was a great way to keep in touch with some of my friends that love far away, but we stopped playing back in 2020. It was just so evident that little to no care was put into even the bigger updates, cause they were never really that big. A lot of the roles had the same type of missions and the ONE thin I saw everyone ask for never got addressed. That one thing being the ability to buy your own ranch, build it up and make a hub, have posse battles defending it, have your businesses and occupations work from there and stuff.
I mean the players that are playing it a lot really found a home in there, and patiently waited for years, just to hear that they are quitting? Yeah no, I'm done with rockstar and like I said, I haven't even played since 2020 but this kind of fan treatment is EA-level and I'm not with it.
they dont want to make a freaking mmo so deal with it
their main focus is SP games and thats where it should be'
@@Freestyle80 no those features are available in gta online so obviously they’re willing to do that to their games.
@@Freestyle80 that’s demonstrably not true
@@Freestyle80 isn’t gta v considered mmo?
@@Freestyle80 corporate bootlicker
One of the beats was from Majestro Douglas right?
Rockstar needs to do a proper starwars game on this platform with ability to hop to different planets and try your hand at the Kessel Run etc. steal any empire or rebel ship - become a bounty hunter-work for Jaba. The possibilities….
My husband and I had such a great time playing RDO. We put so many hours into the game and maxed out all the roles. We both loved the horses-it was so exciting to buy a new horse, pick the perfect name, and spend way too much time customizing the mane and tail. 😂 We had so many unforgettable gaming moments during our time playing that we will remember forever.
Nice
Sounds like you are a great wife and your husband is a great husband. Good health to you both.
Don't forget to get intimate. Sounds like I'm a perv. But it's one main reason why relationship end. Put down game. Get down on each other
Me and my wife had so much fun too, it was the only game she wanted to play with me, shame they didn't focus on it more.
@@kalay5651 same my fiancé would play this with more often than she’d ever consider gta.
The lack of player count is a metric used as an excuse for Rockstar to mask their failure. Single player: massive success. Online mode: massive potential. From the jump, the online mode felt like an after-thought when it could have been a massive addition that players would have willingly given their money towards. Rockstar crapped the bed.
I checked the player count and it was higher than GTA.
nah there’s still people playing it rn
I'd like more things to work for, like a wagon/carriage to customize within realistic reasons and properties to build and customize, like maybe a ranch that we can buy and upgrade the house or buy a plantation to customize but also add some heists where we can get together and rob banks and trains etc
I tried playing for 3 days and all that happened is I was constantly harassed and really unable to play the game. When I did try to play I wasnt able to because the mission finder could never find another player so I literally could not continue with quests.
Bought it in 2022, pretty fun with a couple of friends. Sadly, we quickly reached the end of the online content. There isn't much to do at this point. Earn more money, replay missions and just the enjoyment of being in a beautifully crafted world. We would love to have more content and play it for an year or two more. :(
I really wanted to see some modded servers with survival elements to it. The game already has the fundamentals in place. Camps, loot, hunter gathering. Man that would have been great.
For real tho. A mode like the long dark where you’re out in that snowy area near the beginning of the game would be very nice
There is a modded version for rdo I forget what it’s called but you can get a farm and stuff.
There's plenty of popular roleplay servers that offer such as well as a lot more.
The last time I played it online, it just felt a bit dead. From the npc's to the wild life. Compared to the non online, its strange. I really wish they did more with such an amazing world. Id even be happy with a red dead 3 but with the same map. Completed it twice and I still find things ive never seen
Crazy part of me that i always play story mode and never played online but im going to download this game and try it out
I hope the community does the same thing they did with GTA, if they're able to. I never used it myself yet but create a community launcher, add mods to it and do RP servers and things like that. As someone who really enjoys RDO, I think that may bring at least some needed life to it
They already have RP servers but I'm not sure if it's on its own launcher, only seen videos of it. But it's just like no pixel but now it's in the end of the wild west.
RedM is what you are looking for.
Ah, alright. I didn't know that they had it for RDO. Thank you
@@deathsangel2138 Yw. Sad thing is the devs apparently found a lot of stuff that is already in the game, just not implemented/activated which is so sad. So they went ahead and implemented all that stuff on their private servers.
Yeah RDR RP has been a thing for years now and going strong.
I can absolutely say with certainty it is the horribly rampant amount of hackers and cheaters that kills it for most people.
Played for a couple of couple months with some friends and got so sick of having to server hop to get away from them multiple times per hour that we all just pretty much stopped playing. (Also random disconnects in middle of mission constantly wasn't fun either.)
Takes the fun out of the game. The prevalencey of the hacking and egregiousness of the types of hacks being able to be used was just horrible. (Like a hacker being able to join a server and just crash everyone on it. Or just cause them to blow up continuously forever...)
It's a real shame though becuase it was fun when that wasn't going on though.
I love this game to this day the potential that it has is amazing just sucks nothing is happening I loved red dead redemption 1 online it was so fun I remember getting the gold double action revolver from doing all the challenges I love the 2nds online I love the world I love how it looks but most importantly the fact you gotta dress up for different weather got me in love with it just wish there was more to do in online cause max out every role but naturalist
In a way it is understandable what Rockstar has done. , I checked the online player count numbers of GTA 5 compared to RDR online and my jaw dropped. 180,000 concurrent players compared to roughly 4,000 speaks for itself. Even at release , the player count of RDR online did not exceed 20,000 so it being abandoned / killed it is not exactly the reason for poor player numbers, rather the fact that it is a relatively niche product / genre. It makes sense from an organisational , resource driven perspective to funnel most resources and development time into GTA 6, which undoubtedly will break countless records.
They didn’t give it a chance like gta online hell gta online didn’t get really good till ps4 and Xbox 1 dropped
No updates, that's what killed it.
Exactly, the last proper update we got was what? The Naturalist role? Then they baited everyone into having hope when they announced Blood Money only to find out it was just more stranger missions
@@jackmeriustacktheritrix the only two updates RDO ever got was the moonshine shack and the environmentalist role and both broke the game and made it unplayable for millions. It was such a high volume that Rockstar even made an announcement about it basically say " tough shit "
I'm a late-comer to RDR2 having bought it during the pre Christmas sale on Steam last fall. Played through the SP, and half way through the 2nd round. For something different I hopped on RDO a few nights ago and spent about 4 hours online...and ran across only 3-4 real people in my travels. Explored Valentine, Lemoyne, and Saint Denis and the world was pretty empty, so it felt more like just playing some different SP missions since there was no interaction with any real people. Guess I missed the hay day...lol.
You didn’t miss anything. It was micro transaction driven and grindy from the get go. I have enjoyed gta5 online and rdr2 single player but after several attempts rdo is absolute shit.
I patiently played RDO daily for awhile through 2019-2021. There where definitely more people playing in 2019. However we all left for the same reasons. There wasn't a lot to do after you beat the missions.
I've been here since day 1, literally had early access. i left when the animals left, it was insane not seeing a single squirrel or deer. the economy was always crap, legit earned like 3 bucks from a mission. the online world always felt dead.
I never once had a "posse fight" not one time. I did come back for each update to see if the fixed anything and i was ALWAYS disappointed.
my point is; it never really had a hay day.
@@redbeardreturns3550 It did, you must have been on pc? On Console there were alot of passionate people, that came together. Everyday was a new journey, posse drama and fighting was day to day minute to minute. When two crews were in the same lobby that didn't like each other, all h*** would break loose. Those were hay days, but ya after awhile that died out too.
@@ImParzelli yea, not to mention the crazy money glitches and catfishes spawning in the saint denis mansion pond 😂😂 easy money tho I loved those days back then. Of course the mooshine parties used to be great too
I was on a server alone today for 8 hours straight. No NPCs no animals literally just fish deer and vultures why are all of the towns empty now
I've been playing on pc and I've never ran into any issues like this. Only hackers playing around with stuff but that can usually be solved by switching lobbies. I played on ps4 late 2023 and it was playable and didn't seem empty and never have I seen a hacker on console.
Every time I took part in a mission with my mates it would kick me half way through the mission and say it’s because of connective issues, even tho I’ve the best internet going and never get disconnected from other games, eventually it got frustrating as I couldn’t progress my online character as all my mates could do I packed it in and deleted it
This is easily one of gameranx's best videos of all time. Jake wrote beautifully about why RDR Online means so much to so many people - it is an escape, and I'll always be grateful for that.
It’s always felt empty
He just failed to mention all the major content updates had to be paid for to play, and that hackers were a problem too
@@infamous-riv3ra36 No content had to be paid for to play everything can be easily earned by just playing the game
@@callmen4 grinding gold in the game for literally hours close to 24hrs just to be able to buy one role, means it's meant to get people to pay for it rather than "earn" it.
@@infamous-riv3ra36 Gold is really easy to get in the game. You can get the roles pretty quickly only playing 1-2 hours a day. That's Rockstar's biggest problem. They messed the economy up. Practically no one who is still playing RDO is buying gold. That's why GTAO gets all the attention and RDO has been left to slowly die.
The main issue for me with RDO was I felt held back. I recall trying to start the Naturist thingy and think I needed other players to progress, IF I'm not mistaken. Its a similar problem I've had with GTA Online as well. But perhaps the biggest difference is the amount of content and pace. You can always hop in GTA and do 1,000, 000, 000 things. But I think RDRs pace is too slow and spread out to be able to hold peoples attention online. More content could probably have helped. I remember seeing people riding around on Zebras in the previous version. I've never seen anything like that for RDR 2. This game I believe would have been better off with story expansions rather than trying to recreate what they've accomplished with GTA online. Nevertheless, the games a masterpiece for sure. I think the timing of the release and perhaps covid may have lead to them having to decide to drop this and focus on the next big blockbuster they have in store.
Yea! They should at least let you get a bot character on those missions so that its hard but still playable
i dont get the gta online hype, its equally uninteresting with more flashy gimmicky horse shit. at least RDO had real horseshit lol
Give it a negative feedback on steam.
Those greey bastards don't deserve good
RDO would have worked better, at least in my opinion, if they actually leaned into the idea of making a camp, and forming a gang, have the gangs be NPC style characters, in the vein of the story, where each member has some specialty, or unlocks some activity, one that finds marks for houses to rob, one that lets you set up road and carrage ambushes, one that allows you trade furs and pelts, one that allows you to break and train horses to get more money, ect, ect. Have it be that at the start, players can only have 1-2 of these characters with an unupgraded camp, but with the ability to get say 5-6 out of 10 of these gang members. After you reach say the 3 gang member mark, have another character be introduced that handles bank robbing, train hijacking, gun store robbing, basically your big ticket items like the heists in GTA online.
At least in that manner, you can have NPCs to do activities with, that could then be replaced by players when you form a posse.
If you really wanted to make some flavor for them, make a high, neutral, and low honor versions of the gang members, add in some varients, say one style from Valentine, one from Saint Dennis, one from Annesburg, and one from out west. You would have 12 variations of one character, times 10 characters, 120 variations of gang members you could pick from, and have 72 to pick from (for a 6 person camp).
Yeah i never played rdro, gtao i put in 18 hours and realized theres random idiots making missions impossible, 1 idiot literally threw the first heist that steal car on roof one.... Idiot literally diee 6 times in a row while i was in cover..
Man i was really really about to download rdro but gta has too much despite the idiots, the bike races in first person....
Social activities....
Im redownloading it....
Funny thing is i played rdr2 at launch and Never touched online, i JUST started gtao like 4 months ago, lul.....
Ill dive back in, lets do it. I have a friend who plays now and then with me in games i think we all have that person
Rdr2 story mode is my favourite game of all times. Such depth and passion for one game is rarely seen and has yet to come again imo. So ofc I loved rdo too and I still do. But the neglect - both of the game and the players - makes me sad. With those actions (or non-actions) over the last years Rockstar lost me as their customer. I will neither play gt5 nor gta6. Never. They could implement flying unicorns or whatever, but they will not get my money. I am deeply disappointed in Rockstar.
I have never understood the allure of “Grand Theft Auto.” Every time I tried playing any of the games in the series, I could only play it for maybe an hour and couldn’t get myself to invest any more time. Obviously it’s really popular, I just don’t understand how you can invest tons of time into the game play of committing crimes, running over people, shooting it out with cops….like that’s fun to do a couple of times but after that idk one man’s trash is another man’s treasure huh?
With how Rockstar has been going about things these last couple years, I think they're going to monetize anything they can. Understandably a company is there to make money, but, there's a line that needs to be drawn. Way too many once great developers are going in a downward spiral that's either going to cripple gaming for years to come, if not ever, or they're going to demolish themselves. Then you've got the final option, enough sheeple still buy into it, dump mom's money into predatory monetization schemes, and it's an endless cycle. Countless players will see their favorite IPs washed down the drain for the sake of raking in a few extra dollars, all while they continue to exploit the market and make it much, much more difficult for any smalltime dev to hit AA or AAA. It sounds incredibly pessimistic and it honestly is, but I've seen what's happened to so many devs, especially when corporate greed is involved or "quota" seems to have been set by either their publisher or possibly shareholders.
Maybe when it comes to online play, but the fact is, Rockstar is still a master creator of Single Player experiences. I don't think that will ever change
I agree with all of the points you made but, rockstar can do whatever they want if they keep giving us incredible single player stories. The commenter above me is right
@@PsilocybeJedi They have been so far, I'm just afraid they may follow the road many other devs have and sacrifice their single player for profit. Great example being Ubisoft.
Casuals killed gaming.
@@roderickcortez138 facts
I recently started playing Red Dead Redemption 2 and it's already one of my favorite games of all time. There's just so much to do. The game looks absolutely gorgeous. Shame Rockstar's greed killed it
It’s phenomenal. Probably my favorite game ever - sure, the controls can feel a bit clunky at times but the immersion is unbelievable.
Same red dead redemption 1 and 2 are my favourite games of all time
Man u want gta 6 or rdo
@@friday_00 GTA 6 and RDO. Not GTAO
I still play this game time to time i just really dont wanna let it go I've enjoyed it so much but,rockstars neglectful to other games that dont make them that much money
It just shocks me that they didn’t add player businesses like in gta. Think like player owned railroad companies, banking companies, trading caravans. It’s not like there was no where to take things
Such a groundbreaking and phenomenal masterpiece of a game , all it needed was a next gen update patch and my goodness …. Just a little online support could go a long way in making this such a wonderful experience . The amount of money rockstar could’ve made had they gave this online mode the gta v treatment
Give it a negative feedback on steam.
Those greey bastards don't deserve good
Cowboy vs aliens dlc would be cool.
It’s probably coming
@@kingghxstgaming did you even watch the video?
@@kingghxstgaming I'm pretty sure A cowboy versus aliens DLC would probably be a big update in rockstar's eyes and probably would be one of the biggest DLCs for Rockstar games besides undead nightmare from the first Red Dead redemption
Man I had such an amazing time playing this when it first came out. Like the first month me and my friend were messing around and found 2 other people to join us , we traveled all over and canoed us far up that river as we could until we had our horses to the mountains , we then got in a small circle with our lanterns during the winter night and we started boxing … was so fin
Was it like brokeback mountain?
@@JackLondon12 even better
The actual final nail was as the last outlaw pass ended and nothing has happened since. You know it's truly dead and gone when they aren't even trying to get us to spend more money.
I still think the best part of online was the navy revolver. They really should have made that available in story mode