I run 4 Fletch AAE max stealths. I love the set up. I feel like when I'm shooting long distance, they're more consistent. I run vpa 100 gr 3 blade broad heads with brass insert weights up front. The arrows end up being pretty heavy. I think the extra Fletch makes a difference too with heavy arrows.
I’ve got to say thank you for helping me discover the zingers. They are incredible! They opened up the world of building my own arrows, rather than depending on a pro shop or pre-made from a manufacturer!
I have found through many years of shooting competition that the turbo knock corrects so much it makes a bad shooter look like a good shooter they really are phenomenal you should look them up if you need their information I can get it to you
I have Easton sonic arrows and they’re 3 fletched. I’m considering iron will single bevel broadheads but my more experienced friend said I would need to refletch to 4 vanes. That sound right? We do typically bow hunt in the South Dakota hills, it can be windy.
If you shoot at distance with a fixed head , you will notice a difference . Average jack admirably doesn’t shoot past 30 yards at game . 4 fletch , 2-2.5 degree offset , long range mussels with fixed heads . Have a little fun and fletch up a bunch and shoot long distance !
Hi average jack . Any chance you could do a review on the true blue crossbreed Broadhead please. I'm curious about its accuracy and how hard they may be to setup and tune .
In your review of the zinger flitch you said they were short and quit small In this video you stated that if shooting a smaller vane like the heat you would do a 4 So if you were going to shoot the zinger would you say z4 is the direction you'd lean? Also you shot it with a biscuit How many shots (much time) with the 3 & 4 would you say you did (spent) I've shot cheap pre fletched 3vanes and after a while the get waves going through a biscuits did you experience this at all in the z3/z4 I've currently been fletching with heat vanes but I am starting a > foc build using rip-tko arrows and the fairy test kit Was thanking trying these Thoughts/Tips?
So are you saying with Bohning heats it doesnt make a difference unless I’m shooting broadheads? Or will the 4 fletch do better with field points also? Switching because my blazers were a little tight to my cable guard and rest for clearance
The Heat vanes steer mechanical heads okay enough, although I still want them in a 4 fletch for anything other than a field point. They're incredibly low profile.
I turn a fletch down on my NAP drop away. Mine is a 2 prong rest with nothing in the middle. I have never noticed any kick so I assume if the arrow is not falling away in time, the middle down fletch passes between the prongs. Thought?
Hi Jack, I'm curious to find out if you have ever tried using fobs? If you made a video on this my apologies I missed it. I'd love to here your opinion. Thanks
Greetings, what are your feelings about right or left directional fletching? Do you fletch based on your arrow spin out of your bow? Appreciate your opinion.
Thanks for the tips. For a beginner bow hunter do you recommend one vs the other? Also, what are your thoughts on a zinger vs fletching yourself? I’m testing out a few now and they seem to shoot better than the ones I installed myself. But that could be because they were my first fletched arrows haha. I’m planning on shooting the magnus as well with a drop away rest. I may buy some of those zinger 4 fletch as well and just tinker. Thanks for all the information!
If you're new to wanting to tune and Fletch yourself then the Zingers would be an easy go to. Especially if all you do is bowhunt and shoot around with your buddies. For me the will remain a part of my repertoire, but won't be the staple for everything like indoor and competitive 3D. Definitely would recommend the Z4 for a fixed blade head! I experienced great results with mine and the Magnus heads.
Average Jack Archery thanks for the quick reply. Sounds good, my plan is to stick to hunting only. So maybe for now I’ll stick with the zinger. But I’ll experiment some more with 3 vs 4 and also fletching my own. Spent too much on the equipment not to haha. Thanks again.
Hi , first I want to say thank for sharing all your knowledge. I enjoy all your videos. I am new to archery. I got my first bow last September, and since then I already got a better bow and I being making my own arrows. I tried many different fletching configuration. I found that four vanes works good for my set up. Anyway , question what is the name of that super light four fletching set up you have on the video. I can't find it anywhere. Thanks again, and keep up the good work.
@@averagejackarchery thanks for getting back to me. I ordered some already, and I let you know what I think when I get them. Hey food for thought. I have gold tip airstrike arrows, and I being playing with adding weight to the front by adding the 10 grain or 20 grain weights. Is being a interesting experiment. High FOC vs loosing speed and reach. Anyway probably a subject for another video. Thanks again and keep up the amazing work. If you ever down in southern California you have a hunting buddy that you can count on.
I shoot a 500gr 4 fletch arrow at 255fps, I lost around 7-10fps when I switched from a 3 fletch high profile blazer vane to a 4 fletch low profile vane. Is this a concern? I am hunting african plains game and not planning to shoot further than 30 yards.
Every time i watch your video's i feel like i need to slow the video down because you talk like the micro machine dude from the commercials (no i don't expect you to know who that is or the reference). Take a breath you dont need to spit out all the info in your head in a 6 minute video make the video 9 minutes and us old guys can follow what your saying.
Sorry! My videos usually run about 8-12 minutes on average but only see watch times of 4-5 mins. Have to get as much information out as possible in the front half especially before most click away.
I run 4 Fletch AAE max stealths. I love the set up. I feel like when I'm shooting long distance, they're more consistent. I run vpa 100 gr 3 blade broad heads with brass insert weights up front. The arrows end up being pretty heavy. I think the extra Fletch makes a difference too with heavy arrows.
I’ve got to say thank you for helping me discover the zingers. They are incredible! They opened up the world of building my own arrows, rather than depending on a pro shop or pre-made from a manufacturer!
Also if you do horseback or aspire to, 4 fletch is good since it rests on the bow every time without having to worry about the index vane
Hey Jack!
Great video!
Curious for fletching a 4 vane setup what do you recommend as far as setting them up on the jig?
What bout knock size and weight? Can you do a video about knocks?
How did we get from 5 inch plastic vane from the 80's to to 2 inch today with an arrow.
Trials and errors/success
Curiousity
Technology
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I have found through many years of shooting competition that the turbo knock corrects so much it makes a bad shooter look like a good shooter they really are phenomenal you should look them up if you need their information I can get it to you
Tim Gillingham loves the 4 fletch for fixed
What about offset vs helical? Will a strong helical help steer fixed blade broadheads?
Yes. A good helical will best support a fixed blade broadhead.
@@averagejackarchery 3degrees right, is that sufficient?
That's exactly what I use! 3deg right helical.
@@averagejackarchery I just started using the arizona ez fletch mini. Not sure how many degrees but it puts on a pretty hard helical.
@@jaysonallen3100 the right helical with the arizona EZ fletch is 6 degrees i believe
I have Easton sonic arrows and they’re 3 fletched. I’m considering iron will single bevel broadheads but my more experienced friend said I would need to refletch to 4 vanes. That sound right? We do typically bow hunt in the South Dakota hills, it can be windy.
Only way to know is to shoot and to see if the fletch is enough to steer at distance.
Love your channel, im shooting an Elite Ritual35 at 45 lbs (80 year old shoulder)🤣 what fletching would you suggest for 3D. Arrows BE PS23 28”?
If you shoot at distance with a fixed head , you will notice a difference . Average jack admirably doesn’t shoot past 30 yards at game . 4 fletch , 2-2.5 degree offset , long range mussels with fixed heads . Have a little fun and fletch up a bunch and shoot long distance !
Hi average jack . Any chance you could do a review on the true blue crossbreed Broadhead please. I'm curious about its accuracy and how hard they may be to setup and tune .
Do these same principals apply to feathers not vanes?
I would say even more so. Feathers create much more drag than vanes due to their texture.
@@averagejackarchery ok. Thanks
The Heat vane is long enough though. Same surface than the blazer. Its doing a good job in 3 fletch setup with fixed broadheads
Man, I enjoy your videos and the well thought out content.
a tip: you can watch series at Flixzone. Been using them for watching all kinds of movies these days.
@Mitchell Baylor yup, been using Flixzone} for since december myself :)
In your review of the zinger flitch you said they were short and quit small
In this video you stated that if shooting a smaller vane like the heat you would do a 4
So if you were going to shoot the zinger would you say z4 is the direction you'd lean?
Also you shot it with a biscuit
How many shots (much time) with the 3 & 4 would you say you did (spent)
I've shot cheap pre fletched 3vanes and after a while the get waves going through a biscuits did you experience this at all in the z3/z4
I've currently been fletching with heat vanes but I am starting a > foc build using rip-tko arrows and the fairy test kit
Was thanking trying these
Thoughts/Tips?
Would definitely use Z4 for any fixed blade style.
Definitely these won't wrinkle. They're significantly stiffer being so short and stout.
So are you saying with Bohning heats it doesnt make a difference unless I’m shooting broadheads? Or will the 4 fletch do better with field points also? Switching because my blazers were a little tight to my cable guard and rest for clearance
The Heat vanes steer mechanical heads okay enough, although I still want them in a 4 fletch for anything other than a field point. They're incredibly low profile.
@@averagejackarchery just trying 4 fletch for first time. Hoping for good results
Lots of good information! 👍
I turn a fletch down on my NAP drop away. Mine is a 2 prong rest with nothing in the middle. I have never noticed any kick so I assume if the arrow is not falling away in time, the middle down fletch passes between the prongs. Thought?
If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!
Awesome! Thanks! Love the videos!
Hi Jack, I'm curious to find out if you have ever tried using fobs? If you made a video on this my apologies I missed it. I'd love to here your opinion. Thanks
I haven't used them, no. So unfortunately I don't have an opinion! Haha!
"Three fletch just look better than four" why nit function over form?
Greetings, what are your feelings about right or left directional fletching? Do you fletch based on your arrow spin out of your bow? Appreciate your opinion.
I have a video on arrow clocking. Check it out for my thoughts on this!
Thanks for the tips. For a beginner bow hunter do you recommend one vs the other? Also, what are your thoughts on a zinger vs fletching yourself? I’m testing out a few now and they seem to shoot better than the ones I installed myself. But that could be because they were my first fletched arrows haha. I’m planning on shooting the magnus as well with a drop away rest. I may buy some of those zinger 4 fletch as well and just tinker. Thanks for all the information!
If you're new to wanting to tune and Fletch yourself then the Zingers would be an easy go to. Especially if all you do is bowhunt and shoot around with your buddies. For me the will remain a part of my repertoire, but won't be the staple for everything like indoor and competitive 3D. Definitely would recommend the Z4 for a fixed blade head! I experienced great results with mine and the Magnus heads.
Average Jack Archery thanks for the quick reply. Sounds good, my plan is to stick to hunting only. So maybe for now I’ll stick with the zinger. But I’ll experiment some more with 3 vs 4 and also fletching my own. Spent too much on the equipment not to haha. Thanks again.
Hi , first I want to say thank for sharing all your knowledge. I enjoy all your videos. I am new to archery. I got my first bow last September, and since then I already got a better bow and I being making my own arrows. I tried many different fletching configuration. I found that four vanes works good for my set up.
Anyway , question what is the name of that super light four fletching set up you have on the video. I can't find it anywhere. Thanks again, and keep up the good work.
The is a Z4 Zinger Fletching
@@averagejackarchery thanks for getting back to me. I ordered some already, and I let you know what I think when I get them.
Hey food for thought. I have gold tip airstrike arrows, and I being playing with adding weight to the front by adding the 10 grain or 20 grain weights. Is being a interesting experiment. High FOC vs loosing speed and reach. Anyway probably a subject for another video.
Thanks again and keep up the amazing work. If you ever down in southern California you have a hunting buddy that you can count on.
Which style zinger will you run with fixed blades and what helical?
Z4, 6deg, right helical
Question: would 4 be necessary for a 200 grain broadhead?
I would try it if 3 is having issues. A lot of weight up there to manage.
@@averagejackarchery haven’t even bought the heads yet lol, but they are a 4 blade. I’ll probably end up doing it.
Brings you to olden days...can you even say that shooting modern pointless gizmos xD
I shoot a 500gr 4 fletch arrow at 255fps, I lost around 7-10fps when I switched from a 3 fletch high profile blazer vane to a 4 fletch low profile vane. Is this a concern? I am hunting african plains game and not planning to shoot further than 30 yards.
Great question! And no! That speed loss in negligible in the grand scheme of things. Settle the pin and let er rip!
@@averagejackarchery thank you so much! I recently discovered your channel and I am very glad I did. 😁
New sub... watching a few of your videos.
I Think you could use this one for a drinking game. haha
Fletchings don’t steer arrows…..
@@JeffWF73 nope, sorry but methinks you need to look up the word “steer”. Fletchings stabilize arrows, they do not steer them.
Every time i watch your video's i feel like i need to slow the video down because you talk like the micro machine dude from the commercials (no i don't expect you to know who that is or the reference). Take a breath you dont need to spit out all the info in your head in a 6 minute video make the video 9 minutes and us old guys can follow what your saying.
Sorry! My videos usually run about 8-12 minutes on average but only see watch times of 4-5 mins. Have to get as much information out as possible in the front half especially before most click away.