BOSS RC600 : Recording and arranging a song in single mode
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Here's an excruciatingly long form tutorial on single mode recording and arranging in the Boss RC600 Loop Station. Topics include: syncing loops and rhythm, programming switches, arranging, FX, rhythm programming, and recording concepts. Sync "issues" are addressed as well.
PLEASE! If you have questions or suggestions, leave a comment.
Here's a rough guide to the sections:
Intro/concept/method 0:00
Preparation and settings 3:10
Recording tracks 13:30
Configure playback layout 36:20
Applying rhythm changes/sync settings 46:30
Playing tracks, input FX with guitar 60:13
More RC600 videos to come...but they'll be much shorter, promise!
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When I see this brother laying down a one-hour plus video I'm subscribing to that channel immediately for the daring idgaf. Hell yeah homie.
Excellent tutorial. I'm on second round of copying this tutorial exactly as you did it.
Copying your licks too. Learning alot. Your method and speed at which you deliver the info is perfect for following along.
Thanks Patrick, it’s a bit complicated but starts to make sense as you go along. Glad you’re getting something out of it!
You had me cracking up when you said “who’s going to do that?!” 😂
LOVE FROM NUERNBERG! You are so super helpful, Dude! Thank you and God bless you!
Wow! Thanks for the kind words! Glad it was helpful to you.
I’m overjoyed tbh! I’ve waited years for a video on multisection looping with different progressions and this is it ❤. Beautiful playing and sounds….
Thank you 👌
Howdy!! As someone older than dirt; I am highly impressed with your patience!! Your video reminds me of my college chemistry classes! lol Meticulous
That’s funny, I’m not that way in any other aspect of life! Or maybe I just don’t realize it because I’m old as dirt too 😂😂 Thanks Pete
Please make more RC600 videos your vibe is second to none !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, so cool. Thank you GreenDrink Guy. Yes, more on the way this week.
@@LRCDetroit I want to run an external midi controller with volume knobs to the "MIDI-in" of the RC600 and then run "MIDI-out" RC600 (as the MIDI-master) to and RC 505mk2 as the MIDI slave.) It could also be done with 2 RC 600's. I wish someone would do a video on that just to find out if it will even work lol..
@@greendrinkguy1882 it certainly sounds possible, though well beyond my expertise 😅. I have an Akai Force that I hope to midi sync to the RC, and I’m fairly sure CC messages would be easy to navigate. Beyond that is very hard for me.
@@LRCDetroit haha ok well here's a much easier question (that perhaps could be addressed in a video) Is it possible to run MONO inputs to just ONE side of a designated "stereo" output? (Yes I know U can switch the stereo outputs to mono outputs, +do it that way, but I don't want to do that cuz i need the stereo output for another instrument) so question is: Can "stereo-link" outputs be programmed to play mono input signals (as well as track loops) on JUST ONE SIDE? -without it having to be "dual mono" coming out both sides?? Thanks, +cheers!
@@greendrinkguy1882 sorry I just saw this one. A friend of mine used a dummy plug to do something along those lines. Seems easy enough.
Hello ! thank you so much for your tutoriel ! it's amazing and very simple to understand ! thanks for that !
thanks! That's exactly why I bought that machine from hell....arranging songs and switch between verse,bridge,chorus etc. this video is a treasure !
Oh that’s good news. I feel the RC excels in that scenario. It has its quirks but overall works great on gigs or for writing.
i love you man. You explain things like a musician! Super helpful for me and I thank you!
Wow! Thanks Kyle. Glad you were able to get something out of it. That’s what it’s all about!
Thanks so much for making this video!
This is my first looping device in about 15 years, as I once owned one of the dual pedal Jam Man loopers. I used it mainly for teaching, but I did actually use it live to do the harmony outro solo on Hotel California. I'm pretty sure I could recreate Hotel California with the RC 600...lol
This video is extremely helpful - you obviously know what you're doing, and even though I'm well familiar with Boss's menu systems, there is a lot to take in and the learning curve is pretty steep. I just picked up my RC 600 two days ago, and I got reasonably familiar with it, after integrating it into my pedal board.
After seeing your video, I can confidently affirm that I am at least 20% less skittish. 👊🤣
Sounds like you’ll get the hang of it in no time! Congrats on your new looper, thanks Christopher!
Thank you very much for your videos.🙏🏽
Liked and subscribed.
Thanks Captain! Glad you were able to get something out of it.
Right on the Money. Great lesson from a musician in a gigging band
Incredible video, appreciate you sir!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
You can set it up so that pressing play will only kick in at the end of the currently playing loop. This takes the pressure off getting the timing right. It does mean that if you want to start a loop immediately, you need to stop what's playing first, so you might want to leave this setting until you've recorded your loops, and you just want to play them in sequence and not worry about missing a cue.
Thanks for the clear explanation. I've learned a lot. I've been torn between the simplicity of just singing with an acoustic guitar or using backing tracks. I've been using the RC 600 just to record a verse to solo over but not building a full track. The only thing I keep in each memory slot is a rhythm for each song I do. You've inspired me to build simple backing tracks for some songs and save them to memory slots as you do. I can see the attraction of live looping but I think your way is another great way to use the 600.
Thank you! There are many ways to implement it into performance. Once you put in a simple rhythm and bass line it really opens up the possibilities musically. Glad you got something out of this, cheers.
Nice chill reality live vibe. Sweet little hook to boot :-) Thanks
Whoa thank you BGC 😁 Simple bluesy number so everyone can relate.
Brilliant,have subscribed for more rc600 content
Awesome! Thanks APT, more to come.
Thanx so much for this!
Great video …, super helpful… thank you
Excellent! Thanks for checking it out.
thanks alot for you video is so heapfull ! !!
I see you have a FORCE there! I have the force and the RC 600 and would love to find a way to use the RC600 as a controller for the force!!
"We need to stop" So that was funny...you had me laughing...Thanks!
I think I was getting a bit carried away 😂 thanks Bill!
Great! Make more! 👍😄
Thanks Jaap, more on the way.
Gracias 🙏🏾
I know it’s long but hopefully there’s some useful info. Gracias Lin!
Howdy!! Hopefully, BOSS contacts you to highlight their RC-600 on the web!!
Awesome vid and playing! Thx. My next toy for sure..... ;)
Right on super dad, it's a fun pedal and versatile!
Best piece of equipment I bought in years
@@waynesguitarchannel9050 it’s very well designed, I love it too!
My RC500 is limited in track measures lengths -They need to be n the ratios of the other racks: 16, 8, 32 not 18 .as it doesn't match with those. yet aldp 24, 6, 12 go together. Seeing your video at 44 mins made me realise the same issue I had been trying to get over in RC%00, affects RC600, too. PS: I like your video
Great vid, thanks! What's your voice mic here? I've found it's sound really nice!
Hello, congratulations, I was delighted to see this pedal more as a tool for composing than for looping in the strict sense.
Of course, the way you play always counts a lot and yours is very professional, but I really liked the sound you get from the effects, and your sound in general.
Are they all internal effects?
Does the sound go directly from the Direct Out of the Rc 600 to your sound card, or do you take the signal from the guitar to a miked amplifier?
Could you tell me how the reverb effect sounds for the vocals?
In other videos I've seen it a bit poor, I don't know if it's because they don't know how to use it, thanks.
Hi Emilio-thank you for the compliment and observation. In this video I went direct into the rc600, though I did use a Joyo American pedal, and a Keeley Hooke Reverb...that's where the tremolo came from. From there, the rc600 goes to my interface (presonus 16r). I am just finishing my next video which goes through the guitar oriented FX, and I will say that I can get close to the tone in this video with the built in FX...they are pretty good if you adjust to taste. In the next video, the guitar went direct into the looper, no pedals beforehand.
My wife Laura is a singer, so I've been planning to record a video of her singing direct in. I'll make sure we do a thorough demo of the reverb. I would say it's good sounding but not very versatile. Like the other fx, it needs to be adjusted to taste and the range/tone is limited. Pairing the reverb with the compression, eq I imagine can get some pretty interesting sounds! The Master out has a reverb which sounds better than the input/track fx reverb, very natural and subtle for live use. Lastly...I am interested in using the various outputs to run out to a guitar amp, I bet it will work great...the fx are good enough to replace various pedals on a gig! I'll try to address all these topics in my upcoming videos.
@@LRCDetroit
Everything is clear to me and I am not going to miss any of your next videos, because I can assure you that the sound you get is spectacular.
I always knew that the most gifted musicians who also like sound editing are capable of catching the biggest trout with a bit of Grandma's sewing thread.
The voice thing with your wife interests me a lot. It is true on one hand that voice is very special thing, because few people have an interesting one, even if they have a great range, but it is also that everything that is out there in examples with this pedal is a bit sad, in a way I'm already seeing how yours will shine in comparison.
Needless to say that your future video recording through the amp interests me a lot, I always saw in this pedal a great possibility in that sense thanks to the two XLR inputs it has.
Howdy!! Any suggestions on how to configure a loop using the GT1000 and the RC-600?
2 years old. does the 1.4 firmware still apply to this video?
Howdy!! If you find a bug! write BOSS!! I read if you find a flaw; they will pay you a few bucks if the flaw can be replicated at BOSS!!
Hi! Thanks for the video! Do you know if it can be used as USB interface?
Hi there and thank you! I don’t believe you can use the RC600 like a traditional interface. It appears (according to the manual) that it functions similar to a hard drive via usb. Meaning you can back up or restore data, or edit midi and audio using the Boss Tone Studio software. I will investigate it though, thanks again.
Not sure if you still need this answered, but YES, the RC600 works as an interface, with 3 stereo outs and a headphone jack. It's a super capable machine, and paired with Midi controllers, drums pads, studio monitors, etc it's a nice all in one solution. If you don't have an interface and want to save money, try using the RC600 as an interface first and see if it works for you.
Great video, helped a lot.. Question.. what model is your Bass guitar? Cheers, Subscribed. Steve.
Hi Steve-thank you. It’s a Daisy Rock 😂 I’m not sure what model as it’s 20+ years old. Semi hollow with active pickups. They are mini humbuckers…the sounds huge.
@@LRCDetroit Hah I knew it was something special.. sounds awesome.. totally unavailable now.. you’ve got a little diamond there 😂🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸
appreciate your content. I'm struggling with this and can't find away around it unfortunately. I'm in mode 1. I want bank 1 to be receiving my drums from an external source. I want to be able to play that at a short loop say of 4 beats. I want that to be the bpm of the track so I set that first and it saves me looping drums for say 4 x 4 beats.
I then want to go in to bank 2 and set a loop length say of 12 bars.
now this is where it gets tricky and can't figure it out. say I've recorded guitar rhythm in bank two and now want to add other parts like harmonies or bass parts on the guitar. I want to add that to bank 3.
for some reason they won't quantize together and the loop seems off. I know there's a global quantize but is there a way to set it so that when I set drums for 4 bars that banks two and three can be played longer but be quantized together?
you can do this on the rc300 just by putting bank 1 in free mode and other two banks in auto mode.
I bought this pedals for sound quality improvements, more inputs and outputs but it doesn't seem to do the one thing I want it to. I'll have to take it back otherwise.
Hi Robert-I found it slightly frustrating to sync things but my process is simple...I record with LOOP SYNC ON, then when moving to my next loop, turn LOOP SYNC OFF. I repeat this process and it seems to work. Also I make sure my loop start is set to MEASURE, and record is set to QUANTIZE.
So, before recording set Track 1 to LOOP SYNC ON, single mode, quantize on, and loop start to MEASURE. It will automatically be in "FREE" to record however many bars you wish. When I am done, I turn LOOP SYNC OFF on Track 1. Now when recording Track 2, I repeat the same process...LOOP SYNC ON, double check my loop start as MEASURE, QUANTIZE on (it seems to remember these settings) and record my next loop. It will again record to ANY LENGTH and if I turn LOOP SYNC OFF it will fire off in time. I believe you can set it to MULTI as well so that it plays along with a single mode loop.
I'll also add, I always record with RHYTHM ON so loops are "in sync" with the internal click on the 600. If the rhythm is on and playing, loops sync perfectly for me. You can easily turn the rhythm down in the mixer and just hear your own drum tracks that way too. Notice how the tempo lights up in time with the loops on button 9 when in sync. I sure hope this helps somehow! Thanks.
You actually CAN see the color change from Mode 1 to Mode 2 (from white lights to blue) - observe the reflection on the chrome strip.
😂that’s good news Leigh. I noticed the same thing!
George thank you so much. Have you noticed any quirks using Loop Sync with the v1.21 update?
Hi Jeff-I have not, but I still use my work around. Loop sync seems to behave a bit more after the update, though as I said...my technique of switching loop sync on and off during recording works for me pretty much flawlessly.
Thanks for making video. I dig your laid back style. So I have a dumb question. I want to get into looping and been playing guitar 40 plus years. I thought the cool part of loopers was using basic instruments and a Mic to lay down the rhythm section. Seems more organic and I have seen seen hundreds of amazing videos of people laying down the dopest backing rhythms with most basic percussive instruments or even just clapping their hands into the mic. Do you feel having prerecorded rhythms makes the looping process a tad sterile and not as cool and creative making your own rhythms? I am ready to purchase my first looper and quite honestly there are so many choices it's overwhelming and as far as I know this is the only unit with 6 tracks. I also know guitarists like the new 505 MK2 even though it's a desktop unit which is a tad weird. What unit would you recommend ? Thanks brotherman✌
Hi Bob-thanks for the note here. That’s an interesting question! I think it might possibly be more engaging for a listener live to see someone clap, make mouth sounds or use live percussion to create the loop in real time. Also, I think we can mostly agree that it’s just out right FUN to do that 😀 ! The RC600 makes it very easy to do that. I use the built in sounds/rhythms to CREATE my own track to playback live at a gig when needed. There are a plethora of drum kits and rhythms to keep it interesting. I also build each track to have a chord outline, sometimes bass lines too. I then play over that track live which is great for soloing, playing other parts/voicings etc. For me, that was the main reason I wanted the 6 tracks…to outline entire songs. It’s a highly recommended piece of gear…especially to RECALL prerecorded tracks. Though as stated, you can of course do it LIVE too. The choice is yours! That adds tremendous value in my world ✌️
Also look at the headrush for ease of uss
Can you raise the camera height to get more of the RC600 in sir?
Hey great video! When your playing the grooves in real time they sound really locked in, but they're a little off once they're playing back, did you notice that? Maybe there's some latency in the pedal?
It's most likely user error. I don't hear any latency with the pedal while making loops.
How come I feel like I need to take a college course to use this thing? Thanks for the videos.
I think Boss didn’t do the best job writing a manual that described how to achieve results. Also, the 600 is capable of functioning in many scenarios for different users. I don’t really do “live looping” so had to figure how I could make the machine do what I needed. They could have spent time implementing a similar structure in the manual or video series. I hope these videos just open one’s mind to possibilities. Thanks scoots.
Because it keeps the price down. A better easier to use interface would’ve been more money. For what it does the price was incredible!
Howdy!! At the beginning of your video, there is a device off to your left! What is it?
Have you had problems with muddy mixes (per track) after overdubbing 3 to 4 instruments?
Even with proper EQ for each instrument, usually after the 3rd overdub I get a slightly distorted track. It’s passable with drums added but I’m not achieving clean sounds while stacking instruments… Thanks for your videos they have been helpful.
No I’ve never experienced that. I’m very careful with volume going into the loop though. I’m sure it will get muddy if you try to jam too many frequencies into one loop…like the low end of an acoustic guitar covering up the kick drum or bass. I usually have drum, guitar and bass and lower the volume right on my bass or guitar going in…self mixing. I’ve ruined many loops having an instrument too loud 😂
I tried to resist commenting but you keep leaving the rhythm or loops playing while you talk dude! I’m gonna be so sick of them by the end of the video aren’t I? This is a very helpful video though and you are such a cool cat 😊
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Hi 👋
I can't seem to find a way to turn off the click/tap tempo/rhythm. On the rc300 it was on the outside next to the tap. I can't seem to find it anywhere which is really odd. Surely ppl like to free loop without a click or tapping in a tempo? Please help
Various ways to do that. Easiest way is to turn down the rhythm altogether on the mixer page. There's also various control assignments to program rhythm OFF. I highly recommend reading the parameter guide more than once. It has a lot of info not in the manual. www.boss.info/us/products/rc-600/support/
Is there a guitar tuner? I'm folling crazy for find it! thank you for help.... 🙂
Hi Daniela-unfortunately no. Seems like an oversight for sure. If the instrument is out of tune and looped, well…it’s painful. I bet it could be easily implemented with a firmware update from BOSS.
@@LRCDetroit YES, no Tuner!! This is one of the major complaints to BOSS! It would have been easy to place a tuner (a 440Hz) would have been easy!!
@@GOD_BLESS_THE_BEATLES looping out of tune is definitely something to avoid. The tuner should have been implemented.
I dont know much about how drums work,but before the sweet child 0 mine solo there is a repetitive drum beat, Is there a way I could do that in the rc 600?
I want to make backing tracks for full rock song but jm not sure if it's a good idea
Hi Rigo- that sounds really easy. You can program the switches with an ASSIGN to change drum beats on different loops. If you have FILL engaged on your rhythm track it will play a fill at the end or beginning of a loop. The simple eighth note floor tom/snare fill in the GNR song is definitely already in the machine. It's a standard drum fill. Good luck! Making the loop/tracks is straightforward if you know the arrangement of the song.
@@LRCDetroit Thankyou very much.
How would you incorporate the Quad Cortex into this RC-600?
Had to google Quad Cortex 😀 Looks to me like you have various I/o on the Quad. First, do not use the Boss effects as they probably will not be on par with Quad. Second, set up the Boss in a effect loop from the Quad so you can go in and out of the RC600 when needed. The RC is flexible with I/o too so you can have two instruments/line and two mic inputs all running separately or linked. That’s a powerful setup!
HELP PLEASE. I’m new to multi track loopers. I’ve had boss single looper for years. Pretty sure it’s rc 5. Trying to set track- Measures to free but that’s not an option. It goes from 2-13. What’s up with that? I don’t know if it was like this before I updated from 1.04 to ver 1.12 …
Any idea what’s going on?
Thank you for your videos as there’s not enough videos on RUclips showing the advanced settings in this pedal. I’m going to set it to 4 for now and try to keep learning how to use all the features I didn’t have with my standard looper.
Hi Wayne-the first loop must be empty/blank to set it to free. The RC600 automatically follows loop length as you record. If the loop is empty (blue light) you should be able to adjust to FREE. Hope that helps.
@@LRCDetroit thanks for the reply. I will try this. I love this looper. It’s not perfect but it’s really close. My next dig into the 600 is effects as I want to integrate this into my live shows. Have a great day play music.
I watched this video for about three minutes before I realized it was you.
That’s funny 😄 thanks for subscribing. I’m making more videos on the RC, seems the world needs the insight. I know I do! It’s a deep machine.
@@LRCDetroit Yeah, I'm considering getting one now that the new update is out. I use an Electro Harmonix 95000, which is great, except that it doesn't do variable loop lengths per track. The Singular Sound Aeros is also tempting. Trying to decide between that and the Boss.
@@tonydrake821 yes, the built in drums sealed it for me because there’s electronic type kits like 808and pretty decent patterns to build with. It’s a very versatile instrument seemingly good for any style…free improv, avant-garde, arrangements whatever. Half speed, reverse, multi lengths all easy to select. You can really go bonkers with it 😂 The sound is pristine as well.
I prefer to be a purist and create my own percussion..Always got annoyed at canned drum in the box non creativity..Thanks for demo ...each to their own right?
Yes, cheers to your effort! I’ve done it many times. In fact, adding tambourine and/or shaker first is a great idea! Thanks for the insight.
How much is that little ball of stress.?
59:51 that's what she said
😂😂 Mr Magoo 😂😂
That flashing light is annoying.
This should be called „Amateur with some knowledge of the RC-600 trying to figure out more…“ 😁
Thanks for taking the time to leave a snide comment 😂
@@LRCDetroit it wasn‘t intended to be a „snide comment“. From musician to another it should be seen more as a motivational boost to do a wee bit more research before producing such a long vid, that results in a lot of wasted time for many viewers and followers. The amount of useful information you present could easily be boiled down to 5 minutes, leaving more time for the support by your (by the way excellent) guitar and bass playing.
The tips for the RC-600 aren‘t really elaborated enough to be passed on. You’d have a tough time having to re-program what you suggest after recording just one song - when there are much simpler and not that time consuming solutions. ✌️
@@richardervins thanks again for the insightful observation.
I don’t understand your video
I tried to resist commenting but you keep talking while the rhythm is playing and it really irks me dude 😂
You just came here to listen to loops?
Im think you should have figured this all out then make the video . Your talkin to yourself not the audience ..ill check back
Well, I washed your video fell asleep a couple times woke back up and made me a cheese and burrito sandwich got back into the groove of watching your video. If you’re gonna make a video make sure you play correctly. It’s annoying you went through too much mumbo-jumbo to lay down a song, when you have the drum track going, you have your effect pedal ready to go you push play start and then hit the expression pedal and record your riff. Push the expression pedal off go to track number two. Make sure you do a two or three or four bar count into the song, once you get to the last count, you push the expression pedal again on the left side for track two and lay down the second riff base or keyboard so on and so on by going through the menu and going to Quan times and this and that you’re confusing people why do you have to confuse people with the machine, a simple video on a simple song over a read all of the post congratulate you and patting you on the back I have four Bosch RC 400 and series and your video makes it very complicated for a newbie to try to figure out how to use it. I think maybe I gotta go back in and make a new video and correctly play your guitar and your baseline and your keyboards and so on and so on, two minutes 38 seconds long song I would dig it more but anyway you have a good day
Thanks. Yeah you’re right. I should just give up and quit. Glad someone finally said something.
Kurt! Seems you have the time knowledge to make your own videos. I look forward watching them.
Kurtcason can you make a video of your, "four Bosch RC 400 in series". Would be interesting to see your work flow.