DIY Fiber Laser Tube Cutting Machine | Part 1: Self-Centering Chuck

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @TheBiscuitsandGravy
    @TheBiscuitsandGravy 2 месяца назад +10

    A support for the uncut portion of the tube like another commenter mentioned would be a good idea. I have run a real industrial tube laser and vibrations in the tube as it rotates are an issue, especially with light thin wall tubes. Even if you're rotating the tube slowly a thin wall tube can vibrate for a long time and if your machine head has capacitance sensing it with jump up and down leading to a wavy/partially welded cut. If it doesn't have capacitance sensing then the tube will slap the head and cause problems.
    Another thing you should consider is a heavy duty spring on each of the tube "steady rest" bars. All steel tubing has variations in twist and the dimensions across the tube in anything other than a drawn over mandrel or extruded seamless tube. I don't know the spring rates the machine I ran used, but it was probably in the 500n to 1kn range with ~2mm travel. If you don't have any give in that system you may run into feed issues or wear the bearings out really fast.
    I'm very interested to see how this works out. I'm a bit surprised you didn't try to integrate it with your new laser, is there a reason why beyond having the first laser already and needing something to do with it?

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      Very interesting...thanks for your input! I was planning on making an additional support for the tube as it is cut and sticks out of the machine, something like a tripod on wheels, with a roller on top, that I can adjust to the height of the material I'm cutting...then I could position it externally after I know the length I will be cutting...I'm not sure how well it will work, but it was going to be my first attempt. I like the idea of using springs, I may end up doing that, this is all unknown territory for me, so there will certainly be some modifications as I learn what works and what doesn't.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +2

      Sorry I forgot to answer your question...I just wanted to make two separate machines, thinking it would be easier to enclose each of them...though the more I learn about tube cutters, it seems in any case it will be difficult for me to enclose for fume extraction totally because of the sparks that travel down and shoot out from inside the tube itself, so part of it will definitely be escaping from my exhaust system in the enclosure...I've not come up with a good solution for this, unless I was to build an enclosure around the exit side as well, but I don't think I have the space for this.

    • @TheBiscuitsandGravy
      @TheBiscuitsandGravy 2 месяца назад +1

      @@diyfiberlaser The machine I used had a table on the output side which moved up and down(with square/rect tube) and tilted to dump the cut tube. It was a mixed bag. If the tube cut cleanly, it was fine, but if the tube had any cut-weld then it didn't. Tubes are much more sensitive than sheet. Tube cutting heats the opposing side of the cut and sprays it with dross, so anything under ~30mm often has attachment issues. If you are planning on cutting anything over ~24" then I'd consider an outfeed support, otherwise I'd only worry about an additional infeed support.
      The machine I ran had a fume extraction system which pulled through the tube and from near the head. The fume extraction system was 60A 480v with MERV 12 filters IIRC, but even a shop vac hose attached to the end of the rotating chuck could help a lot with fumes. It did have a flame trap in the chuck head since it had pretty good suction on the tube. It could easily pull a 1" square piece of 1/4" steel 20ft through a 3" tube.

    • @Omsip123
      @Omsip123 2 месяца назад

      @@TheBiscuitsandGravywow, these are quite interesting and good points. Not that I ever would be in need of it, but I can imagine that it’s helpful to know.

    • @austinlambert3994
      @austinlambert3994 2 месяца назад

      @@diyfiberlaserI have a similar project using a plasma cutter instead of fiber laser. My solution was to use the pass through on my chuck to run a vacuum through.
      Option two was to run water down the tube but that makes a mess especially if you don’t have an out feed table

  • @sjholmesbrown
    @sjholmesbrown 2 месяца назад +5

    As a technician who does install and service work for industrial tube lasers that *start* at 1M Euro and go up from there, it's fascinating to see the parallels on a DIY build. Looking forward to further instalments.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      Unfortunately my budget is a little bit less hahaha 😆 we’ll see what we can achieve with a $10-15k budget…should be fun!

  • @Arek_R.
    @Arek_R. 2 месяца назад +9

    Yess you went for it
    Btw. "DIY Tube Cutter FINAL v193" lol you put quite some work to it

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +3

      Haha, yes, and that file was the 3rd version...I'm excited to finally get out from behind the computer!

  • @michaelmiller5566
    @michaelmiller5566 2 месяца назад +2

    You are living the dream. I have some machines and build some things here and there but nowhere near the quality you do. I hope one day i can build a fiber laser using your videos. You are an inspiration

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline 2 месяца назад +2

    Gorgeous design of the chuck; you can see how much thought you put into it, and it plays out when you machine the parts, and it just falls together perfectly when you bolt it together. Building it in CAD before you actually build it is a game changer. We designed an entire house in SolidWorks from steel, fabricated it locally in Montana, and sent 3 semi trucks to the site in California with the parts, and it went up without a hitch. And I do many projects like you are doing for myself in SW; thinking it through completely before you even touch any materials is the key to success. Look forward to the next installment(s).

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      That is awesome that you are fabricating houses in this fashion! It's funny, the only time I have errors is if I didn't take the time to 3D model it : ) It's totally transformed the way I work trough projects!

  • @onetobe7998
    @onetobe7998 2 месяца назад +3

    Building the same thing but plasma for now but switching to a laser next year when my new shop is built! I am building my chuck the same way. It's cool seeing people have the same idea and process of doing this!

  • @mulberryworkshop
    @mulberryworkshop 2 месяца назад +1

    Thang channel is mental I have used sooo many times!

  • @mrp19285
    @mrp19285 2 месяца назад +2

    One thing I did with my Router was add side pieces to keep material inside the cut area so it didn't make a big mess, It helped a lot.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      That would definitely help! I was thinking about maybe fabricating an enclosure once I finish the tube cutter

    • @mrp19285
      @mrp19285 2 месяца назад

      @@diyfiberlaser The downside with an enclosure on a router is tool loading. My tools are stored on the backside so if I want to preload the tools before measuring I have to crawl inside the router.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      @@mrp19285 That's a good point...I think I would want every side panel to be a door so I could still have easy access.

    • @mrp19285
      @mrp19285 2 месяца назад

      @@diyfiberlaser I built mine out of 2020 extruded aluminum. If I was to do it again I would was 1 or 2" square tubing. Then do whatever doors I wanted out of extruded aluminum. I have a AXYZ 4004 so an enclosure that size out of 2020 isn't the best.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      Noted, I will probably use 1” square tube for the frame and extrusion for the doors like you suggested. I would expect a video update in the future, i want to make the enclosure and rework the z-axis to use square linear rails instead of the round unsupported rails it currently uses…there is too much flex and I’m not happy with the current cut quality, the rest of the machine is solid, but the z-axis sucks. Also, I didn’t get it on video, but on my last part a tool got stuck in the spindle and the alarm didn’t trigger for some reason…the machine dragged the tool across all other tools and ripped them all off and eventually cracked one of the y-axis castings…so I have that little problem to address 😕 I think I’m switching back to manual tool changes as the Masso just doesn’t have the tool changing logic for me to do if safely.

  • @loydsa
    @loydsa 2 месяца назад +3

    It's an interesting build and you certainly deserve praise for rolling your own design. If it were mine I would be slightly nervous about the lack of a locknut on your two drive "spindles" and the general lack of thread lock on bolts in a complex assembly I will look forward to your future video's. Best regards Sarah

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks, I didn't show it but I used 2 nuts to jam lock the drive spindles. I will use thread lock eventually, but I've already got some good feedback and will be disassembling it to make improvements.

  • @pablohover2206
    @pablohover2206 2 месяца назад

    I hope that Press Brake and pipebender will be coming soon 😀
    Great job and great videos

  • @Crusher9mil
    @Crusher9mil 2 месяца назад +1

    Looks like a really cool project, wish you all the best in your endeavor.

  • @thomasrutter1360
    @thomasrutter1360 2 месяца назад +2

    Very interesting project, can’t wait to see your first cuts.

  • @Iamtherodlight1453.
    @Iamtherodlight1453. 2 месяца назад +2

    So so awesome. Thanks for sharing.

  • @TheQuantumFire
    @TheQuantumFire 2 месяца назад +6

    Looks like an enclosure for the router should be on the project list.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +2

      haha, it is! I'm hoping to use the tube cutter to help fabricate it : )

  • @Skyfirelaser
    @Skyfirelaser 2 месяца назад +6

    Starting off with a big move! Using different machines to produce various parts, then assembling them into the laser chuck, and eventually combining it with other parts to build a low-cost laser tube cutting machine. With this machine, you can then create even more metal tube parts, which can be used to build other products. In theory, you could create your own city! Haha!

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +4

      Haha, yes!...I will start with the small cities and work my way up to global domination, but I will need you help because I will need parts! : )

  • @jesseservice7828
    @jesseservice7828 2 месяца назад +1

    Parabéns ! Ótimo projeto.

  • @MyDanglingUnit
    @MyDanglingUnit 2 месяца назад +1

    I see quite a few people talking bad about the Masso controller but it seems like Travis has good luck with it

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      I think mostly it's because of the price...there are a few small things that I dislike, but overall I really like using them.

  • @NorthernFabandMachineLLC
    @NorthernFabandMachineLLC Месяц назад

    Thanks for replying!!

  • @TAMARbarCNC
    @TAMARbarCNC 2 месяца назад +1

    Looks awesome! Great job!

  • @portmanteau.
    @portmanteau. 2 месяца назад

    I always deburr with a orbital sander. Gets all the edges and leaves a nice matte finish.
    When you make the material frame, maube add material storage above it as well, can never have enough!

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      Thanks, I even have an orbital sander... I'll have to try it next time.

  • @robbroomfield468
    @robbroomfield468 2 месяца назад

    Hey Travis
    Here am I thinking that maybe I'm catching up to you with my monster diy fiber laser and you go do this! 😆
    Awesome work I'm following this veeerrry closely. 🎉

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      Sorry about that, this one has been in the works for a while 😀….lots of new challenges, so I will try to share what I can.

    • @robbroomfield468
      @robbroomfield468 2 месяца назад

      @diyfiberlaser it's the self centering chuck I'm real interested in. I've done the rotary thingy on my plasma. If I can help I will, just hit me up

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      I’ve already got some great feedback, like adding in springs to account for fluctuations in tube diameter, so I’ll iterate on this and try to make it better

  • @kahllackey5619
    @kahllackey5619 Месяц назад

    Hey Travis, put a clear shower curtain all the way around your router table. It's cheap, easy, and quick to implement. Then when you get time to build a "real" enclosure you haven't wasted much in time and materials, but you've got those chips under control in the mean time.

  • @Omsip123
    @Omsip123 2 месяца назад +1

    What a beautiful build, and what a great workshop you have! Did you consider to have somewhere an adjustment mechanism, in case at the end the tolerances add up and there is need to bring it back to center? Like shifting one linear rack a tiny bit.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks, I didn't consider that...but I do have a little clearance in gear rack holes where I can adjust the position slightly. I also got a comment about adding springs to account for fluctuations in tube diameter, which would be nice. This is my first iteration, so there is definitely room for improvement as I figure out what works and what doesn't.

  • @nixie2462
    @nixie2462 2 месяца назад +4

    No final adjustment spring load to ensure variations in tube diameter/side to side size make the tube loose?

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks, that is something I didn't consider...I think I might be able to modify the design slightly and get springs on there to allow for size variations.

  • @stefanguiton
    @stefanguiton 2 месяца назад

    Excellent

  • @curiousumscientia3648
    @curiousumscientia3648 2 месяца назад

    Great work

  • @universeisundernoobligatio3283
    @universeisundernoobligatio3283 2 месяца назад +1

    Like your tapping machine did you do a video on it?

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +2

      No I never made a specific video on it, not much to say....it taps. It was around $600 on AliExpress, it works well, I find the handle and up/down buttons could have been design a little more ergonomically...I especially notice after using it for a long period of time.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 2 месяца назад +1

    7:45 A vise is a much better approach to that.

  • @onetobe7998
    @onetobe7998 2 месяца назад +2

    Where did you get your gear racks from?

  • @mastermoarman
    @mastermoarman Месяц назад

    How much backlash is in that hollow spinner?

  • @badarjahangirkayani6196
    @badarjahangirkayani6196 2 месяца назад

    Very interesting and fun project. I noticed that you use a combo of expensive McMaster parts and cheaper Amazon kit parts. How do you decide which to use where?

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      That is very keen of you to notice! : ) I shop around and end up buying most parts from either Amazon, eBay, or AliExpress. But for some specialty parts, I don't mind paying a little extra to get them through McMaster-Carr because they have 3D models available for every part and it makes it easy to integrate into my 3D models, especially when sometimes the parts don't have detailed descriptions or dimensions on some of the other sites.

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E 2 месяца назад +1

    Forgive the ignorance, as I do design and build some really zany equipment from injection machines from industrial parts to jet engines (with old jet engine parts as well as one offs, sensing a pattern? 😁) but for the life of me, I'm seriously curious for what use case you need a fiber laser to cut tubing with such precision that 'more traditional' methods or even plasma won't suffice?
    Not dismissing your build at all, just genuinely wondering. Aside from maybe aerospace or medical, I can't see a need rather than just using a friction-based precision lopper, or your stock is high-end valuable.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +3

      That’s a fair question…it’s not so much that I need to, but I want to. I like to take on challenging projects that I don’t see anybody else doing. I don’t know if you’ve seen the commercial machines in action, but to me the laser tube cutting process is incredibly satisfying to watch, so I want to see if I can pull it off. Hopefully by sharing my journey, it will inspire someone who can use this process in their application.

    • @C-M-E
      @C-M-E 2 месяца назад +1

      @@diyfiberlaser I have some aerospace experience, but I'd not been exposed to a fiber laser being used for cutting sizable stock. They are a wonder for surface marking and additive manufacturing, which has been the limit that I've seen them used in industry; I'm not the end-all source in that arena, just what I've been exposed to thus far. I'm looking into it right now as I had no idea they would or could be used in this manner. You certainly have piqued my curiosity though!

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +4

      @@C-M-E Sorry, I regret now that I didn't do a better job explaining what they are used for and their capabilities in the video...I made the mistake of assuming that since I had seen them, everyone else was familiar. Oh ya, go watch some RUclips videos of them in action...there is something incredibly enjoyable about seeing the laser head follow the contours of square and rectangle tube as it turns : )

    • @C-M-E
      @C-M-E 2 месяца назад +1

      @@diyfiberlaser I did end up getting to see a big industrial fiber laser tube cutter in action, and holy crap did I underestimate the usefulness going in! I felt I had to come back and say so as I suspect there's a lot of products I've seen the end result of and had no idea it was done that way. Yes, I will come back and check in on you and your project!

  • @NorthernFabandMachineLLC
    @NorthernFabandMachineLLC Месяц назад

    Searching on these hollow rotary actuators I’m not seeing a through bore dimension, what was the frame size of this one? The 130mm? The sizes they give are for the outer frames on the ones I see. What model was 100mm

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  Месяц назад

      The one that I used that has a 100mm bore, is labeled ZCT200. I think there is only one model that is larger.

  • @austinlambert3994
    @austinlambert3994 2 месяца назад

    Dude, I work with some race car teams and this will be a total game changer.
    If there is any contribution that I can help with, please lemme know. I want this project to become real SOOO badly

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks, I appreciate it...this is my first iteration so we'll see how well it works and what changes need to be made...you don't know what you don't know, but I'm about to find out : )

  • @MyDanglingUnit
    @MyDanglingUnit 2 месяца назад

    I always see people talking **** on the Masso controller but it looks like it’s working good for Travis 🤔

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      It has a few minor things I dislike, but overall I really like using the Masso controller.

  • @nahomali7882
    @nahomali7882 2 месяца назад

    👏🏽👏🏽

  • @Moh.NurIlhamMubarak
    @Moh.NurIlhamMubarak Месяц назад

    what controller do you use bro?

  • @andrikurniawan531
    @andrikurniawan531 2 месяца назад

    a 20watt fiber laser product seem quit popular today, will u make diy one?

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      I already made a video on a low-powered fiber laser engraver.

  • @martinhernandez6579
    @martinhernandez6579 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh boy, these are a bit more complicated than the regular XYZ laser, don’t forget a support cylinder with a mounted roller when the spindle is retracted so the tube doesn’t flex. Make it have the ability to swing just in case the spindle hits it. Don’t forget proper dust collection. I have seen your previous videos but no proper dust collector, EPA may require it. Company I work for needs them. Congratulations on your ongoing work. With all the metal you have been cutting you probably have noticed a lot of dust, breathing in metal dust isn’t a good thing.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for your input, I plan on making a support for the tube that is external of the machine…we’ll see how well or not well it works. My exhaust system has been working well on my other machine, there is no dust or fumes every time I cut. It will be more difficult to contain on this machine for sure.

  • @christianmoreno4894
    @christianmoreno4894 2 месяца назад +1

    Hello Travis, I'm interested in your Raycus 1000watts laser source.
    Would you be interested in selling it?
    Please let me know.
    Thank you.

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      I'm actually going to be reusing it on this project. Though I will be selling the Ruida controller, some servos, and gas control system parts, if you're interested.

    • @christianmoreno4894
      @christianmoreno4894 2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you, I appreciate it I just need the laser power source, I have one exactly the same, but it's damaged. The duty cycle only works at 80% It was damaged after a short in the electrical conections.
      The laser still works, but I had to do a lot of tweaking to the settings to get the laser to cut properly.
      Please let me know if you change your mind,
      I would be very grateful if you could provide me with the contact information of where you bought it from China.
      Thank you very much and sorry to bother you with all this.
      Best regards
      Christian Moreno

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      @@christianmoreno4894 If I could do it again I would buy it through SkyFire, best prices I've found.

  • @ShamsProf
    @ShamsProf Месяц назад +1

    Могли бы скину чертежи хочу свою сделать

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  Месяц назад

      I will be releasing the files at the end of the project when I can confirm everything works properly.

  • @BipinBabu-k4c
    @BipinBabu-k4c Месяц назад

    Hello Sir,
    The Diode Laser is entirely different from CNC Router..! It needs a dedicated Controller and different type of Configuration is needed as well.
    These information is not readily available in any of the Channels..!
    Can You do a walk through video to teach us Mach3 /Hobby CNC Guys?
    Normally the plasma or Router needs Z negative command to cut.
    What type of pulse does a Laser Controller puts out to perform a cut.?
    How the focusing is executed..!?
    These details are not available
    It would be very helpful if you can compare the differences between a Fiber Laser system with a Plasma and Router
    Also the special configurations if any

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  Месяц назад

      I made this video about hooking up a diode laser to my CNC router that might be of help: ruclips.net/video/MX9R2FZFFLY/видео.html

    • @BipinBabu-k4c
      @BipinBabu-k4c Месяц назад

      @@diyfiberlaser One Other Request I would like to make is about the Ethercat Communication method for our CNC purposes.
      For a CNC Hobbyist from Step/Dir communication world using LPT Port which is straight forward in terms of Pin allocation within Mach3. But since the Ethercat is entirely different system and complex, Couldnt find good guiding material as a video yet. It tempts me a lot that Most industrial CNC machines uses that protocol and it is suitable for Noisy environments and signal cable lengths are virtually unlimited. The high speed communication is above all. But very sad that i cant step up to that knowledge.! It would be very helpful if people like you can come up with a guide specifically for mach3 CNC or Step dir communication guys.
      Both motion Signal to servo drives from the controller and from servo drives to servo motors..!
      Please consider if possible..!

  • @ShamsProf
    @ShamsProf 2 месяца назад

    Привет

  • @soniclab-cnc
    @soniclab-cnc 2 месяца назад +1

    why you gotta be so self centered... lol. another slick project to follow on the heels of laser cutter 2.0

  • @ShamsProf
    @ShamsProf 2 месяца назад

    Я тоже делаю в гараже станки если у Вас wechat?

  • @AgainsT1992
    @AgainsT1992 2 месяца назад +16

    Please never ever use gloves on a drill press.. Belive me you don't want to find out why, just don't do it

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks! I don't typically...I was having trouble holding onto the little piece and was afraid it would slip and spin and cut me, thus the glove, which introduced the other risk...probably time to get a small drill press vice!

    • @PencilParasite
      @PencilParasite 2 месяца назад

      My left thumb approves this message😅😅😅

    • @diyfiberlaser
      @diyfiberlaser  2 месяца назад +1

      @@PencilParasite hahaha!

    • @mvadu
      @mvadu Месяц назад

      ​@@PencilParasiteI hope it's not a phantom thumb!!