I think gen alpha needs more outlets to understand and express their emotions and rock music is good for that. They seem to be into dark comedy so I think they would like bands like PUP that have dark subject matter and humor in their music. Another sign of it's return is artist from other genres making rock songs like Willow, Corinne Bailey Rae, and SZA.
@@CharlieSimmons-m3m I would say gen z too. I guess a lot of gen alpha is still too young for this music. I said that because assumed that The Amazing Digital Circus was popular with older gen alpha kids.
@@Faceofthemusic my gosh, I’m an Elder Gen Z, and I’m so happy that rock is back in the mainstream. I just wish that we would have a rock song top the billboard hot 100. The last rock song to top the hot 100 was how you remind me by Nickelback.
I'm so happy about it. In the 2010s, teens just listened to 2000s rock that we heard as children and 90s music, because 2010s rock bands wasn't really known or promoted as well. Seeing newer rock songs become mainstream makes me happy.
I think you forget to mention that this sudden rise of alt rock and alternative music in general is mostly due to the current political-socio climate that impact a majority of us including the youth who feel disenfranchised and betrayed by the failures of current society and what genre that's more suited to discuss these issues than alt rock music. At least thats what i believe.
Yeah. I think that’s a big factor. For me it was Green Day with ‘American Idiot’ that really introduced me to the idea that music can be political. And that’s both because of my age at the time (being 14/15, and starting to gain an understanding of politics through my schooling) but also how critically successful that particular album was. Also it definitely was bands like My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy and to a lesser extent Paramore that tackled the subject of mental health. Which unlike Green Day with politics I genuinely don’t think happened before. During the 2010s pop bands and artists started to talk about mental health but for the longest time it felt like the influence of those alt. rock bands regarding that subject was overlooked.
lol. we live in the greatest time ever. anyone that says society in the 1st world is currently bad, is either: A) a delusional spoiled rotten brat that's never been poor, or B) too young to know just how bad it used to be before
@@hoordeyah For your point ‘A’. Arguably it’s not that everyone is suffering from having less money but that everything else has become more expensive. Like the problem is that wages have been stagnant.
There’s also been a rise in popularity with bands who emerged during the Mid 2010’s and Post Pandemic. Bands like Royal Blood, Nothing But Thieves, Highly Suspect, Badflower, Dead Poet Society, Cleopatrick, Grandson, Wolf Alice, Wunderhorse, The Warning etc. They deserve much more recognition and should be able to carry the torch of Alternative Rock should they be given the spotlight. Not to mention that there’s been a sharp rise in Alternative and Experimental Hip Hop during the same period. Most of which take some influence from the punk ethos.
I think something I have noticed is the rise of people talking about midwest emo, since most of the popular midwest emo music is from the late 90s or early 2010s but idk
i’m gen z and i see a lot of my peers making alt rock music ( me included ) i guess we are nostalgic but i really just love how i can do so much with rock
I do hope this uptick in interest brings some more modern bands to peoples ears. They are out there, I haven't found many of them, I want to see more of them get their moment.
I got into this kind of music (and in a way, I guess music in general lol) through MCR last year. Now my favourite band is Thursday (their singer, Geoff Rickly actually produced the first MCR album) though. Don't think they are getting that much out of this whole thing sadly (the band did release a new song this year for the first time in a decade though, which is cool). I guess post-hardcore probably is just a bit too niche for that lol
I felt out of step with my generation when this and nu-metal was initially the thing and here we are again and I feel even more removed because of my age. I am not complaining about this feeling.
@@nathanreddent2427 is that who she’s cited as her inspirations? I don’t hear it personally, other than that one song where she had to add paramore to the song writing credits, I just hear some Taylor swift influence tbh.
While I agree Lets not forget that Millenials who groups up with this music, are mostly now adults, and have lots of money to spend on expensive arena tickets. Because we are also seing a touring "revival" for other 00s acts, like 50 cent and other acts, not in the alt rock scene. Dont underestimate the nostalgia + "grown-up money" combo! And regarding your comment about emo/alt rock never have gone away, because these adult emos, are still listening. I would argue, these people are only listening to the bands they already know, and listened to way back. They are generally not discovering new music
Hannah can you check out the all female Japanese group Band Maid please? You like pop punk/rock or alt (I guess) this is the band for you. Check out their official mv for ‘Choose Me’. They have an old school feel to a lot of their music and a large following on RUclips (over 40M views on reactions alone!) can I also get a shoutout for introducing them to you? Hope you give them a listen I’ve introduced them to 181 reactors to date and almost all of them loved the Maids and got a lot of views and subs. It’s almost criminal to discuss rock/pop punk without mentioning the Maids. Either way good luck with your channel! 🍺😁🤘🏻🕊️
@@RogerChance5309 Hi Roger, always like to listen to new music so will defo give them a listen and let you know what I think! May even do a reaction video (will shout you out ofc) ❤️
@ Hi Hannah it’s me again. I just introduced Band Maid to ‘Middle-Aged Mike’s’ reaction channel who only had 30 subs at the time and he got 6.2k views and 322 subs in less than a day!(look it up)These are all rock fans! Many people consider them the best rock band playing today. We are always looking for new reactors to help spread the word. Hopefully you react to them🍺😁🤞🏻🕊️
@ have you checked them out yet? I just introduced them to another reactor, Middle-Aged Mike, who only had 30subs at the time and his reaction got 7.4k views in 1 day! And he also picked up 342 subs and counting! (Look it up).🍺😁🕊️
@ hi Roger! I actually have a reaction filmed that I’m going to edit over the Xmas period and most likely post near the new year! Will make sure you get a shout out
Oh yeah i have noticed this and i'm really happy about it. Although i was never into emo or pop punk, i was very much into grunge and nu metal. Instead of Blink 182, Paramore and My Chemical Romance i rather take bands like Korn, No Doubt and Smashing Pumpkins. For me it's more 90s than 2000's alternative but i think these eras have enough overlap so my favorites do get some attention also. Now we only need a wave of new alt bands to get another era of great music!
I'm in highschool right now and since 7th grade I've been listening to bands like MyChemicalRomance and recently have just gotten back into with stuff like Greenday and now Creed. Almost all my friends or any kid someone would consider a "normie" listens to this type of music because the only other thing I've seen people listen to is Rap/Pop
I personally think it’s because the alt-rock era was a time when most white middle class people felt social progress, career mobility and financial security was still within reach.
We need a new revolution in rock, like Punk as a reaction to Glam and Stadium Rock. Like grunge to pop rock. Or like garage after nu-metal. This over produced, tik-tok, 'revival' is worthless, it only exists to pay bills. We need a new generation that refutes social media, trends and the establishment. Artists that aren't afraid to say that popular modern rock, metal, rap, r&b and pop is trash. We don't need a comeback, we need a revolution but maybe it will never come again. MGK and YungBlud are exactly the opposite of authenticity. They are the embodiment of what's wrong with rock.
@@m-tetsuo I agree and also agree with the sentiment that it’s unlikely. MGK & Yungblud seem to be the closest we will get to that - hence why I mentioned them! I don’t listen to them or particularly like them, just think they are the closest “new” acts that are more “mainstream” in this realm of things
The only one here with a brain. I agree with you, man. This garbage “revival” is just a trend that will soon be forgotten about and the main contenders to this are nothing but inauthentic.
My Chem got back together and started (at least attempted to start) touring back in 2019. Not only them but Evanescence and other bands were also already getting back at it back in 2019. We got a 4 years delay due to certain reasons but I wouldn't call it a 20 years cycle. Imo the kids who listened to them are now grown ups and are just simply looking for the good old youthful days and quality music which is letting them have a comeback.
@@JenHime_ 20 year cycle referred to the influx of younger people who are interested in the subculture now… plenty of other really good examples of the 20year rule across other subcultures too. Of course there are different reasons as to why bands get back together…
As someone who got into MCR just before they broke up (thus I was a few years older than the stereotypical 15 year old) I think MCR is kinda a special case and it’s more complex than just us adult fans simply looking for their good old youthful days and quality music. The band has mentioned a couple times (in the rare interview or on stage) that they are basically seeing larger crowds than they did at their height. Which implies for the most part older fans actually stayed being fans. I have heard other (usually older/classic rock or punk) bands accomplish that but in the wider musical landscape it’s actually quite a rare phenomenon. And if it’s true, it also doesn’t rule out the 20 year cycle phenomenon.
@@Aguyincanada0 Oh that she used to be in scientology right? Her parents were part of it so she had to be too when she was younger. As far as we all know she isn't apart of it anymore, because the type of lyrics she sang seems to hint that she left :]
@@Faceofthemusic Hey, I've heard your voice in the beginning of each respective phrase, and its a damn fine voice. But then something like 6:35 kicks in and it's like dolphins flying helicopters. It sounds bad, it hurts your chords and can be almost completely eliminated with just some training. I mean, otherwise, you sound good. Pace, tonality, phrasing-wise I have nothing to complain about. But the vocal fry. It's like a giant dildo in a room. If the room is dirty enough it's not even noticeable, but if it's clean and tidy it stands out.
@@NoNationHero ngl this has got to be the funniest comment I’ve received my man 😂 giant dildo in the room…brilliant… and dolphin flying helicopters the analogies are class. I think my voice was tired or maybe the giant dildo in the room made it worse not sure 🤔
You're missing the point. Original Alt Rock from the late 80s/90s (Sonic Youth and other SST bands, Nirvana and other Sub Pop bands, Radiohead even, etc), was not about this mall sound and look, but about having VALUES that were opposing of the mainstream values of that time period (i.e. Regan era US) - that's why it was called alternative in the first place. So, for the modern Alt Rock artists to have any impact/longevity, they also need to take a stand and SAY something that would resonate with the, lets say, downtrodden, instead of just wearing ripped jeans and dirty make up or whatever. And if in the late 80s the downtrodden would be the teenager gen Xers that were tired of the Boomer corporatization and cynicism, in the 2020s it can be argued that the downtrodden is the rural working class and urban blue collar worker tired of the modern leftist agenda (which is the reason for the election of Trump last month). In my opinion it can be argued that Oliver Anthony's "Rich Men North of Richmond" from last year is a much more of an Alt Rock song in spirit than anything the artists you mentioned in your video ever made. Modern LP, Blink and Paramore, and also these boomer music festivals are just corporate cashing in on nostalgia.
I'm a younger gen z and I recently got to see Pearl Jam live and it was rlly exciting for me to see other people my age excited to see PJ :]
I think gen alpha needs more outlets to understand and express their emotions and rock music is good for that. They seem to be into dark comedy so I think they would like bands like PUP that have dark subject matter and humor in their music. Another sign of it's return is artist from other genres making rock songs like Willow, Corinne Bailey Rae, and SZA.
I agree but I think you meant gen z 😊
@@CharlieSimmons-m3m I would say gen z too. I guess a lot of gen alpha is still too young for this music. I said that because assumed that The Amazing Digital Circus was popular with older gen alpha kids.
Even the clothing is coming back to HT. About time lol. I've missed this. ❤
@@VolcanixAquatix that’s so cool, we don’t have Hot Topic over here but always low key wished we did 😭
@@Faceofthemusic my gosh, I’m an Elder Gen Z, and I’m so happy that rock is back in the mainstream. I just wish that we would have a rock song top the billboard hot 100. The last rock song to top the hot 100 was how you remind me by Nickelback.
Loved the video! I have recently myself returned to alt-rock and I haven't been happier since
Thank you! 🖤💜
I'm so happy about it. In the 2010s, teens just listened to 2000s rock that we heard as children and 90s music, because 2010s rock bands wasn't really known or promoted as well. Seeing newer rock songs become mainstream makes me happy.
I think you forget to mention that this sudden rise of alt rock and alternative music in general is mostly due to the current political-socio climate that impact a majority of us including the youth who feel disenfranchised and betrayed by the failures of current society and what genre that's more suited to discuss these issues than alt rock music.
At least thats what i believe.
Yes 100% a valid point! Honestly could do an WHOLE ENTIRE video on this haha 😅
Yeah. I think that’s a big factor.
For me it was Green Day with ‘American Idiot’ that really introduced me to the idea that music can be political. And that’s both because of my age at the time (being 14/15, and starting to gain an understanding of politics through my schooling) but also how critically successful that particular album was.
Also it definitely was bands like My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy and to a lesser extent Paramore that tackled the subject of mental health. Which unlike Green Day with politics I genuinely don’t think happened before. During the 2010s pop bands and artists started to talk about mental health but for the longest time it felt like the influence of those alt. rock bands regarding that subject was overlooked.
You're too young to understand.
lol. we live in the greatest time ever. anyone that says society in the 1st world is currently bad, is either: A) a delusional spoiled rotten brat that's never been poor, or B) too young to know just how bad it used to be before
@@hoordeyah For your point ‘A’. Arguably it’s not that everyone is suffering from having less money but that everything else has become more expensive. Like the problem is that wages have been stagnant.
thank u for such brief and thorough analysis! it was nice to connect with my teenage-self and yet think what is to come. you are a great speaker
@@kvakva78 hey! Thanks for watching… and this legit made my day 🥹
There’s also been a rise in popularity with bands who emerged during the Mid 2010’s and Post Pandemic. Bands like Royal Blood, Nothing But Thieves, Highly Suspect, Badflower, Dead Poet Society, Cleopatrick, Grandson, Wolf Alice, Wunderhorse, The Warning etc.
They deserve much more recognition and should be able to carry the torch of Alternative Rock should they be given the spotlight. Not to mention that there’s been a sharp rise in Alternative and Experimental Hip Hop during the same period. Most of which take some influence from the punk ethos.
btw i say you are very good at making videos, the quality is very surprising go on and continue because you are doing well!!!!
@@AlessioCorallo thank you so much! I’m really enjoying making them and will definitely continue 💜🖤 thank you for watching
I think something I have noticed is the rise of people talking about midwest emo, since most of the popular midwest emo music is from the late 90s or early 2010s but idk
same with adjacent screamo and shoegaze
@@Nonamechannel420 yea, and slowcore which sounds like midwest emo, shoegaze, and lo-fi's weird cousin (in a good way lol)
@@tiredpathos Slowcore its probaly the biggest right now
For me it never went away!! I was a 2008 emo, I grew up with these! I also LOVED J-Rock and Visual Key ❤ l’arc-en-ciel forever my favorites
The resurgence of 80s music has brought so many new influences and brought back the classic alt/new wave scene
i’m gen z and i see a lot of my peers making alt rock music ( me included ) i guess we are nostalgic but i really just love how i can do so much with rock
i'm sincerely surprised people outside of paramore's & swift's fandoms weren't aware how long taylor & hayley have been friends offstage
The Szuters should be the face of alt-rock and are soon making a new album
Lile Antichrist Theme is legitimately perfect
Sad that Sick New World is cancelled. Nonetheless, great recap of the scene!
I do hope this uptick in interest brings some more modern bands to peoples ears. They are out there, I haven't found many of them, I want to see more of them get their moment.
I got into this kind of music (and in a way, I guess music in general lol) through MCR last year. Now my favourite band is Thursday (their singer, Geoff Rickly actually produced the first MCR album) though. Don't think they are getting that much out of this whole thing sadly (the band did release a new song this year for the first time in a decade though, which is cool). I guess post-hardcore probably is just a bit too niche for that lol
I love this so much.
I felt out of step with my generation when this and nu-metal was initially the thing and here we are again and I feel even more removed because of my age.
I am not complaining about this feeling.
It’s also cool chicks like Olivia Rodrigo who were raised on Paramore, Nirvana and white stripes helping bring it back.
@@nathanreddent2427 is that who she’s cited as her inspirations? I don’t hear it personally, other than that one song where she had to add paramore to the song writing credits, I just hear some Taylor swift influence tbh.
While I agree
Lets not forget that Millenials who groups up with this music, are mostly now adults, and have lots of money to spend on expensive arena tickets.
Because we are also seing a touring "revival" for other 00s acts, like 50 cent and other acts, not in the alt rock scene. Dont underestimate the nostalgia + "grown-up money" combo!
And regarding your comment about emo/alt rock never have gone away, because these adult emos, are still listening. I would argue, these people are only listening to the bands they already know, and listened to way back. They are generally not discovering new music
Hannah can you check out the all female Japanese group Band Maid please? You like pop punk/rock or alt (I guess) this is the band for you. Check out their official mv for ‘Choose Me’. They have an old school feel to a lot of their music and a large following on RUclips (over 40M views on reactions alone!) can I also get a shoutout for introducing them to you? Hope you give them a listen I’ve introduced them to 181 reactors to date and almost all of them loved the Maids and got a lot of views and subs. It’s almost criminal to discuss rock/pop punk without mentioning the Maids. Either way good luck with your channel! 🍺😁🤘🏻🕊️
@@RogerChance5309 Hi Roger, always like to listen to new music so will defo give them a listen and let you know what I think! May even do a reaction video (will shout you out ofc) ❤️
@ Awesome hope you like them! 🍺😁🕊️
@ Hi Hannah it’s me again. I just introduced Band Maid to ‘Middle-Aged Mike’s’ reaction channel who only had 30 subs at the time and he got 6.2k views and 322 subs in less than a day!(look it up)These are all rock fans! Many people consider them the best rock band playing today. We are always looking for new reactors to help spread the word. Hopefully you react to them🍺😁🤞🏻🕊️
@ have you checked them out yet? I just introduced them to another reactor, Middle-Aged Mike, who only had 30subs at the time and his reaction got 7.4k views in 1 day! And he also picked up 342 subs and counting! (Look it up).🍺😁🕊️
@ hi Roger! I actually have a reaction filmed that I’m going to edit over the Xmas period and most likely post near the new year! Will make sure you get a shout out
EDM definitely isn't dead in the US!
Oh yeah i have noticed this and i'm really happy about it. Although i was never into emo or pop punk, i was very much into grunge and nu metal. Instead of Blink 182, Paramore and My Chemical Romance i rather take bands like Korn, No Doubt and Smashing Pumpkins. For me it's more 90s than 2000's alternative but i think these eras have enough overlap so my favorites do get some attention also. Now we only need a wave of new alt bands to get another era of great music!
Listen to "Wilma's Rainbow" by the band Helmet and "Nancy Boy" by Placebo.
I'm in highschool right now and since 7th grade I've been listening to bands like MyChemicalRomance and recently have just gotten back into with stuff like Greenday and now Creed. Almost all my friends or any kid someone would consider a "normie" listens to this type of music because the only other thing I've seen people listen to is Rap/Pop
I think part of this is because that generation finally has some financial independence to show more support to their favorite artists as well
Why can't we get any new bands anymore?
It's all synths and auto-tune.
I personally think it’s because the alt-rock era was a time when most white middle class people felt social progress, career mobility and financial security was still within reach.
It’s coming back because modern popular music is awful and has no soul.
I think more classic alt is reviving. I think 2000s pop punk is considered too cringe for gen z
Some great artists for people to try:
Beach Bunny
Devon Again
Willow
Snail Mail
@@mchjsosde thanks for sharing 🖤💜 Will add to my list
Willow Smith?
We need a new revolution in rock, like Punk as a reaction to Glam and Stadium Rock. Like grunge to pop rock. Or like garage after nu-metal. This over produced, tik-tok, 'revival' is worthless, it only exists to pay bills. We need a new generation that refutes social media, trends and the establishment. Artists that aren't afraid to say that popular modern rock, metal, rap, r&b and pop is trash. We don't need a comeback, we need a revolution but maybe it will never come again.
MGK and YungBlud are exactly the opposite of authenticity. They are the embodiment of what's wrong with rock.
@@m-tetsuo I agree and also agree with the sentiment that it’s unlikely. MGK & Yungblud seem to be the closest we will get to that - hence why I mentioned them! I don’t listen to them or particularly like them, just think they are the closest “new” acts that are more “mainstream” in this realm of things
The only one here with a brain. I agree with you, man. This garbage “revival” is just a trend that will soon be forgotten about and the main contenders to this are nothing but inauthentic.
Because they are tired of trap music 🎶
My Chem got back together and started (at least attempted to start) touring back in 2019. Not only them but Evanescence and other bands were also already getting back at it back in 2019. We got a 4 years delay due to certain reasons but I wouldn't call it a 20 years cycle. Imo the kids who listened to them are now grown ups and are just simply looking for the good old youthful days and quality music which is letting them have a comeback.
@@JenHime_ 20 year cycle referred to the influx of younger people who are interested in the subculture now… plenty of other really good examples of the 20year rule across other subcultures too. Of course there are different reasons as to why bands get back together…
As someone who got into MCR just before they broke up (thus I was a few years older than the stereotypical 15 year old) I think MCR is kinda a special case and it’s more complex than just us adult fans simply looking for their good old youthful days and quality music.
The band has mentioned a couple times (in the rare interview or on stage) that they are basically seeing larger crowds than they did at their height. Which implies for the most part older fans actually stayed being fans. I have heard other (usually older/classic rock or punk) bands accomplish that but in the wider musical landscape it’s actually quite a rare phenomenon.
And if it’s true, it also doesn’t rule out the 20 year cycle phenomenon.
I don’t listen to rock but I heard linkin park has a huge problem
Wdym?
What’s the problem?
Not really sure but it has something with the lead singer
@@Aguyincanada0 Oh that she used to be in scientology right? Her parents were part of it so she had to be too when she was younger. As far as we all know she isn't apart of it anymore, because the type of lyrics she sang seems to hint that she left :]
@ yea that some people might hold it against her tho /:
I grew up with 2000's and 2010's rock and bands like Set it Off, Starset, Three Days Grace, etc. were my childhood ❤❤
I also grew up with those bands, mine being breaking Benjamin, thirty seconds to mars, and disturbed
Stop vocal-frying the end every damn phrase, it is astonishingly annoye|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|e|eng
@@NoNationHero it’s just my voice I can’t help it soz babes xoxox
@@Faceofthemusic Hey, I've heard your voice in the beginning of each respective phrase, and its a damn fine voice. But then something like 6:35 kicks in and it's like dolphins flying helicopters. It sounds bad, it hurts your chords and can be almost completely eliminated with just some training.
I mean, otherwise, you sound good. Pace, tonality, phrasing-wise I have nothing to complain about. But the vocal fry. It's like a giant dildo in a room. If the room is dirty enough it's not even noticeable, but if it's clean and tidy it stands out.
@@NoNationHero ngl this has got to be the funniest comment I’ve received my man 😂 giant dildo in the room…brilliant… and dolphin flying helicopters the analogies are class. I think my voice was tired or maybe the giant dildo in the room made it worse not sure 🤔
Olivia Rodrigo is bringing back rock music into the mainstream! 💜💜
You're missing the point. Original Alt Rock from the late 80s/90s (Sonic Youth and other SST bands, Nirvana and other Sub Pop bands, Radiohead even, etc), was not about this mall sound and look, but about having VALUES that were opposing of the mainstream values of that time period (i.e. Regan era US) - that's why it was called alternative in the first place.
So, for the modern Alt Rock artists to have any impact/longevity, they also need to take a stand and SAY something that would resonate with the, lets say, downtrodden, instead of just wearing ripped jeans and dirty make up or whatever. And if in the late 80s the downtrodden would be the teenager gen Xers that were tired of the Boomer corporatization and cynicism, in the 2020s it can be argued that the downtrodden is the rural working class and urban blue collar worker tired of the modern leftist agenda (which is the reason for the election of Trump last month).
In my opinion it can be argued that Oliver Anthony's "Rich Men North of Richmond" from last year is a much more of an Alt Rock song in spirit than anything the artists you mentioned in your video ever made. Modern LP, Blink and Paramore, and also these boomer music festivals are just corporate cashing in on nostalgia.