What You Can Learn from Japanese Punk Rock

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

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  • @SugarpillProd
    @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +15

    🥁Download My J-Punk Drum Pack
    www.sugarpillproductions.com/product-page/j-punk-drum-pack

  • @AtanoKSi
    @AtanoKSi 2 месяца назад +181

    I like bands that use more distortion, but I always noticed the chords thing, it's what makes you be like "oh, sounds like j-rock" or whatever

  • @Yoshinator54
    @Yoshinator54 2 месяца назад +532

    My favorite Japanese punk bands:
    Punk: The Blue Hearts, Stance Punks, The High-Lows, Cobra, Otoboke Beaver
    Seishun punk (“youth punk”): Ging Nang Boyz, Going Steady, Mongol800
    Melodic Hardcore: Hi-Standard, Hawaiian6
    Pop Punk/ power pop: Ellegarden, Tetora, SHANK, Asian Kung-fu Generation (the old stuff), 10-Feet, Beat Crusaders, Wanima, The China Wife Motors, Egg Brain, Good 4 Nothing, Head Speaker, Hump Back
    Ska-punk: Yum! Yum! Orange, Kemuri
    Horror punk: Balzac
    Noise punk: Hijokaidan, Hanatarash

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +28

      Great picks! I highly recommend Eastern Youth if you haven't heard of them before. Seems like something you'd enjoy, based on the above.

    • @Yoshinator54
      @Yoshinator54 2 месяца назад +8

      @ I forgot to write Eastern Youth lol great band.

    • @raaulm2166
      @raaulm2166 2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks! That's awesome. Now i have to listen to all of them 🤟

    • @davidhoffman6208
      @davidhoffman6208 2 месяца назад +7

      Asian kung fu generation is one of my favorite bands. Their so good!

    • @JMac1918
      @JMac1918 2 месяца назад

      Have you ever hear of the bands Milk or Sakuran Zensen?

  • @BiggysMusic
    @BiggysMusic 2 месяца назад +270

    These videos are great. It's refreshing to see more productions tips for genres that lie between pop and metal. They really open up some windows.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +14

      Thanks dude, happy to hear that! I'm glad they're helping in some small way.

  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi Месяц назад +62

    I don't know about in punk specifically but one thing I appreciated about Japanese Visual Kei artists playing some of the heavier songs is that unlike most Western bands I listened to, they often didn't just have the 2nd guitarist harmonizing the main rhythm riffs, like playing the same riff an octave higher or lower but instead would have two different riffs sometimes syncopating or complementing each other and you could clearly hear it happening too. I only really ever hear it with some Western post-hardcore bands but heard it a lot in a big variety of Visual Kei bands. It highly influenced my own music making. Like one big thing for me is having similar but still different variations or attacks of a rhythm to get my heaviness instead of just double/triple tracking it with layers of basically the same riff. I love adding a bit more texture, grain or little details when you hear it with headphones.

    • @Hexotoxyn
      @Hexotoxyn Месяц назад +1

      So that difference is actually because J-punk comes from post-punk so its very closer to post hardcore in origin than western punk. the western punk scene is pretty heavily dominated by hardcore derivatives. a lot of melodic punk bands also just arent really scene as punk in the west because we separate alt subcultures a lot differently

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +4

      @Hexotoxyn Where are you getting the idea that J-Punk is a derivative of Post-Punk? That doesn’t make sense, as the term literally refers to bands that came after the initial boom of punk rock, not before. And there’s already a term for bands predating punk rock - ‘proto-punk.’
      You could argue that the earliest punk bands from Japan (like SS, G.I.S.M, The Stalin, and others) had more of a hardcore sound, which then branched out into many other styles and subgenres. But J-Punk isn’t one specific sound or style; it’s just an umbrella term, similar to how it’s used in the West. However, we tend not to single out origin-specific styles in the same way we do with Eastern countries, so it's not common to ever see a term like E-Punk (English Punk), even though we do it for Eastern bands all the time.
      But, that’s a whole other can of worms.

  • @Mapache1999
    @Mapache1999 2 месяца назад +96

    Bro. What the fuck is your channel. There's a trillion covers on your older videos.
    I'm loving your rebrand. You clearly know what you are talking. Your have an admirable determination .

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +22

      I've gone through a few shifts over the years 🤣

  • @Fluminox-
    @Fluminox- 2 месяца назад +69

    I'm really glad people have noticed this. I've loved J Rock for the longest time so using chords with m7, m9 or sus chords basically comes naturally to me, like in the song I made for a music exam i posted. If you want songs like this, i recommended music from Ling Tosite sigure, Eve, Hitorie, Sokoninaru, etc

  • @twobarsfourstars
    @twobarsfourstars 2 месяца назад +23

    That ending was the perfect ear lesson for why at home sound isn’t what sounds like that on a record I’ve heard yet, thank you for another excellent video!!!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +3

      No problem! I'm glad it was a helpful demonstration.

  • @thecrasianasian4707
    @thecrasianasian4707 Месяц назад +9

    Just an interesting observation from looking into the band. The drummer is Tsumiki and the guitarist is Surii, both of which are prominent modern vocaloid producers and are worth checking out. The bassist is also the bassist for Yoasobi, which was a pretty interesting suprise. These guys are lowkey a JP super-band, and I'm here for it.

  • @WavePotter
    @WavePotter 2 месяца назад +17

    Great video man! Really nice job explaining the relationship between chord complexity and gain. I feel like a lot of musicians want to use high gain, but the only type of chords that sound good in high gain are power chords, so because they chose to use high gain, they end up writing songs with less melodic character. It helps so much to write on acoustic or in clean first, then choose a tone like you said.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      100%. I think it makes sense for power chords, and if you're doing the single note chugging stuff like in Djent, but if you're playing full barre chords, or anything where you really want to highlight all the notes that make up a more complex chord, a cleaner tone is the best way to go. Thanks for watching!

    • @dirkda2451
      @dirkda2451 2 месяца назад +1

      just commenting here to get the word out akaiko-en awesome band sadly disbanded when guitarist Tsuno Maisa died. the song now on air live is amazing especially with their first singer, Riko Ishino was their second fabulous singer

    • @waltarb8573
      @waltarb8573 Месяц назад

      what so many chords sound awesome completely swamped in gain a complete genre is built around it ever heard of shoegaze?

    • @waltarb8573
      @waltarb8573 Месяц назад

      @@SugarpillProd My bloody valentine sounds great with full baree chords swamped in gain and even reverb so more noise

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      @@waltarb8573 Yes, but the point of that genre is the polar opposite of what I'm describing here. Shoegaze isn't exactly known for its crystal-clear clarity, is it? The idea of that style is to wash everything out and create soundscapes through walls of noise. You're literally trying to obscure things, not make them sound more pristine.
      I think you may have completely missed my point there if your response is, 'Ever heard of shoegaze?'

  • @mirage809
    @mirage809 2 месяца назад +24

    A friend of mine once described short high gain as hiding. It turns all the interesting nuances of one’s playing into a dense and fizzy mush. It also hides the mistakes to some extent.
    This is a pretty good demonstration of what he meant. With the gain down you can hear everything. Every string in every chord, how you’re hitting them and also any mistakes you might make. Can’t hide behind the distortion here.

  • @RobH-hd9dv
    @RobH-hd9dv 2 месяца назад +17

    There's a lot of good Fugazi esque post hardcore out of Japan. Number Girl, Bloodthirsty Butchers, Eastern Youth to name a few

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      For sure! I think that's one of, if not my favourite styles within J-Punk.

    • @TheShut1
      @TheShut1 2 месяца назад +4

      Number Girl basically confessed the bands that influenced them in the song name "Pixie Du"

    • @09lowkey
      @09lowkey 2 месяца назад

      I found out about Eastern Youth several years ago, I love their somber tone also their musicality exists outside the realm of "3 chord punk" music, gotta love it. Found out about Number Girl recently through Spotify from listening to Eastern Youth, the cabs, Veltpunch (probably my favorite Japanese band), MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS, chouchou merged syrups (I really like them only to find out they disbanded in 2016), etc. Not so much straight punk, has alot of post-rock influence but then again J Rock is kinda it's own lane of rock music. Hard to find bands outside of Japan that sound like it.

    • @柿村浩二
      @柿村浩二 13 дней назад +1

      @@09lowkey イースタン ユース 日本で最も過小評価されている不遇だが孤高のバンド。

  • @bemyescape
    @bemyescape 2 месяца назад +2

    Awesome video, great topic to analyse. I feel like Ellegarden hit the sweet spot between Western and Japanese styles of Pop Punk, combining into something truly special.

  • @jrockkai
    @jrockkai 2 месяца назад +19

    Thank you for the video and focus on Japanese Punk! I achieve a similar tone by using a Keeley Compressor Plus, into a Boss Blues Driver (BD-2) into a clean amp i.e. Marshall, Vox AC30, or Roland JC-120. I normally push the mids pretty high to get that real focused chimey sound with my Jazzmaster or Tele. Using the middle position on the pickup selector switch also can give a nice chimey focused tone, but I normally use my neck pickup depending on pedal setup. Theres a good video on EarthquakerDevicesJP with Hisako Tabuchi of Number Girl/Toddle going over her board and how she uses her BD-2 as her clean sound and just stacks other drives on top of it. I tried for years to achieve that Japanese Punk/Indie guitar tone, only to find that most of the bands I loved used Boss BD-2s on their boards. I really love the tones from bands like The Pillows, Number Girl, my dead girlfriend, Eastern Youth, Quruli, MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS, and Kinokoteikoku.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      No problem, thanks for checking it out!

    • @lw1391
      @lw1391 2 месяца назад +1

      This post is outstanding. I'm going to try that pedal combo out now. Thank you so much for the detailed guidance on how to get that tone.

    • @jrockkai
      @jrockkai 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lw1391 No problem anytime, glad to help. I'd love to know if this worked for you.

    • @lovrepetric
      @lovrepetric 2 месяца назад +2

      ah, number girl and eastern youth should be worshiped by anyone even remotely interested in alternative music

    • @jrockkai
      @jrockkai Месяц назад +1

      @@lovrepetric i agree wholeheartedly. I wish more understood!

  • @donloder1
    @donloder1 2 месяца назад +13

    even their metal/hardcore scene doesn't escape the 7th sus or 9th chord.
    I used to think canon rock was j rock, and so was pachelbel lmao I was in middle school at the time.

  • @AustinAbero
    @AustinAbero 2 месяца назад +26

    I feel a good band that somewhat encompasses this style is Good Kid. They’re an Indie Rock band based in Canada and I really can’t compare them to anything else but this. You should check them out!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +2

      Awesome, I'll take a listen. Thanks!

    • @MarmaladeMaki
      @MarmaladeMaki 2 месяца назад +1

      Or Kana Boon considering, the last riff sound's basically like Kana Boon.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      @@MarmaladeMaki Yeah, that was my clients request when they asked me to write the song 😂

  • @Reapertips
    @Reapertips 2 месяца назад +2

    love this so much ✨ super solid editing! nice theme too 🥰

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much! I'm a big fan of your channel actually. Your editing is crisp AF 😄

    • @Reapertips
      @Reapertips 2 месяца назад

      @@SugarpillProd yess! i could spot we share same focused style. it's so clean and easy to follow. you got me inspired this morning :D keep the amazing work!

  • @astreal-awar9688
    @astreal-awar9688 2 месяца назад +1

    This video is wild! Love it! I'd love a similar video about city pop and japanese jazz fusion, or even a series about japanese punk rock/alt rock

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +2

      Thank you! I appreciate you checking it out. I'm definitely planning to make more on the genre (and other Japanese styles) in the future!

  • @RaunTawn
    @RaunTawn 3 дня назад

    Japanese bands also tend to use Fender guitars which have a twangier sound with the 25.5" scale vs Gibson's tight 24.75" scale

  • @DecentHeathenmusic
    @DecentHeathenmusic 2 месяца назад +7

    Love you videos man

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Thank so much! I appreciate the support 🙏

  • @guitarguy4611
    @guitarguy4611 Месяц назад

    im a guitar player who loves Japanese rock and i usually compose my music just like it , I've always wanted to share its sound with others, there is lots of great indie japanese bands. happy to see a video about it

  • @allatonce8936
    @allatonce8936 2 месяца назад +1

    Loved this, into the music wisdom playlist it goes

  • @chrismaghintay
    @chrismaghintay 2 месяца назад +14

    Thanks for that second part! I have been playing this way for a while but my tone always sounds really bad. My recordings definitely don't give me any credit for the complexity of the cords that I use

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Sure thing! It took me a while to fully understand the benefits too. I started noticing that a lot of my favorite bands that used those types of chords also had a similarly clean sound, and then I was like, 'Ah ☝🤓

  • @smallerone-19173
    @smallerone-19173 Месяц назад +2

    As a Japanese who likes punk, I'm glad to see this movie and thank you

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +1

      Oh thank you, I really appreciate it 🙏

  • @thebassdude_ch
    @thebassdude_ch 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this! It's refreshing to see someone covering Japanese sound in general! I've also been looking into their bass sound, how its written, and how it cuts through the mix. If you can do a dive, that'kll be great!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I was actually thinking of doing that soon! It seems they favor more of a Music Man-esque type of sound, compared to the traditional P-bass that many western punk bands use. I’ve also had a lot of success using Djent-style MIDI basses in past recordings, whenever going for a J-rock/punk sound. It’s definitely something I’d like to research more and make a video on in the future!

    • @thebassdude_ch
      @thebassdude_ch 2 месяца назад

      @@SugarpillProd You're right with the tone. I find that they heavily use darkgalss / sansamp overdrives. Please make a vid about it :)

  • @noklle
    @noklle 2 месяца назад +1

    Aooo's members are absolutely stacked, they have tsumiki and three in there brah

  • @Bmckinley
    @Bmckinley 11 дней назад

    You were right. The low gain is actually better. Bravo.

  • @jMerkyJJ
    @jMerkyJJ 4 дня назад

    Excellent video

  • @iibr00t4l
    @iibr00t4l Месяц назад

    Cloudy are a band I recently came across on insta and I have been loving their sound.

  • @aerithofmyore
    @aerithofmyore 18 дней назад

    Aooo is so great! I could see them being huge over the next few years and i could see them inspiring a lot of new gen musicians, kinda like how Yoasobi and AKFG did

  • @Monokitsune
    @Monokitsune Месяц назад

    You know what this is fascinating. Im subbing.

  • @vilhjalms
    @vilhjalms 2 месяца назад +1

    The low gain tone had more clarity, while the high gain tone did add that "full" feeling even though it muddied up the notes.
    Might be interesting to see how it works with Fuzz. Though obviously the clarity won't be as good, but full saturation of extended/advanced chords does sound a lot more interesting than regurgitation of power chords!
    Overdrive/distortion/fuzz all have their place. Sure different saturations, levels of gain all have their respected spots. But then again, what sounds clean and clear, might fit just perfect with fully saturated Fuzz for a certain song etc.
    I personally thought the last bit was great, sure the overdriven signal before the amp meant the guitar took over alot of the sound, but you could EQ the bass out, or use another amp plugin and drive the sound from there, while doing more subtle tweaks on the overall gain of the input signal.
    Then again working on input sound, and sound in general also depends on the player! What works for one person might not work as well for the next, simply because one plays the guitar more aggressive than the other and so forth! Just make sure to mess around a lot and you can find your sound!
    All in all, fantastic video, and I absolutely loved both sounds at the end! They both have their own flair, albeit this exact sample did not showcase the broader spectrum of music they could best fit!

  • @dayena.samanzyi9911
    @dayena.samanzyi9911 2 месяца назад

    Judy and Mary one of my favorite Japanese band.. They were played punk at first influenced by Ramones but they evolve become one of interesting music i ever heard... Yeah their genre becoming blur i don't know whether is punk, pop punk, rock, rockabilly, or even alternative... But its so pleasure to know them

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      If the music is good, then that's all that matters 👍

  • @sound-sakura
    @sound-sakura 2 месяца назад

    very good and informative video, would love to see more videos about japanese punk from you tbh

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! Seems like it's resonated with quite a few people, so I'll definitely look into making more in the near future!

  • @Capitated101
    @Capitated101 Месяц назад

    Where's 九狼吽 (CLOWN), Gloom, Gauze, Disclose, D-Clone, Vespera, Mustang, Crude, Reality Crisis, Zilemma and Demolition? The impact of the japanese punk sound is significant even for punk bands for the rest of the world and Nagoya city has had a good scene (or at least it has had in the past, I'm not sure about the scene nowadays) for many of the punk bands for Japan so I would also look there.
    For the visuals Akihiko Sugimoto's art is very important for many of the bands' images and it aldo looks really cool! Might want to check out the art style also as it would paint a more holistic picture for the genre as a whole!
    All in all a great video! I would be interested to see about the history of Japan's punk scene and it's impact to the sound of today's japanese punk music!

  • @sixteensides
    @sixteensides 2 месяца назад

    your videos are so great! thanks man

  • @RockerBug17
    @RockerBug17 2 месяца назад

    The power of voice leading.

  • @sauxstall
    @sauxstall Месяц назад +1

    i really wonder why no one in here is complaining about the abscence of actual punk bands from japan such as kuro, gai, d-clone, dust noise, chaos channel, outo, confuse and the list goes on. would love a tutorial about the eerie and psychotic guitar distortion tones these classsic bands feature

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +1

      Oh there's plenty of people misunderstanding that Japanese punk isn't just hardcore & crust, so don't worry, haha.

  • @Shane_Bozelie
    @Shane_Bozelie 2 месяца назад +6

    I would highly suggest also to listen to Mono, a japanese post-rock band. Their use of both complex structures with delays and reverb tremello picking is really intense, but at the same time it creates an enormous soundscape

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Awesome, I'll be sure to check them out. Thanks for the recommendation!

    • @yoshkosminsky2744
      @yoshkosminsky2744 2 месяца назад

      Mono are so good

  • @theoya
    @theoya Месяц назад +1

    I absolutely agree with your points on how the chord and tone choices make for interesting music; however, their style is so far from punk that I don't know how anyone could call it that. In fact, the points you made on the calmer and more complex guitar sounds are proof positive of that fact. Light guitar tones, calm vocals, lyrics about personal anxiety rather than being against an outside force, complex chords, the chosen drum patterns and fills: all of these are very typical of more melodic straight rock common in Japan. It's very clean and aesthetic where punk at its heart is aggressive, dirty, and tries to be against commonly held ideas of normally pleasant and aesthetic things.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      I disagree. You're conflating one style of Japanese punk as being THE style of Japanese punk, which is false both in the case of Eastern and Western punk. Not all punk is aggressive in sound. If that's your preferred flavour of punk, then cool, you do you. But that's not representative of punk as a whole, it's simply a characteristic of a handful of styles. Were The Blue Hearts defined by their aggressive sound? Not really. Were Ramones, Buzzcocks, The Replacements, and so on? Again, I would say no.

  • @lw1391
    @lw1391 2 месяца назад +3

    This sounds like music from Splatoon (esp C-side and Riot Act from Splatoon 3), which is meant as a huge compliment. I love that music.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      Not much of a gamer myself, but that's cool to know 😂

    • @nplowman1
      @nplowman1 2 месяца назад +1

      I was thinking the exact same thing. It shouldn't be a surprise that Splatoon's composer(s) took their influence from Japanese pop genres, but Splatoon was the first place I heard this kind of music and its still what I associate it with.

  • @gerniyy5579
    @gerniyy5579 Месяц назад

    Obsessed with MOFD ❤

  • @ZultyBoi
    @ZultyBoi 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for spreading awareness of how cool J-Punk is man! Maybe one day the pointless arguing and hating over what Punk is will fizzle out and we can just enjoy the music for being music lol

  • @Bodhidrop
    @Bodhidrop 2 месяца назад +6

    Check out GISM, any of the Powerviolence stuff.

    • @DisFunctor
      @DisFunctor 2 месяца назад +2

      GISM, Slang, Fuck on the Beach, Idol Punch, Gauze, Swankys, Disclose, Framtid, Milk, Jellyroll Rockheads, Paintbox ❤
      There must be something in the water over there, case those are some of my absolute all-time favorites

    • @Bodhidrop
      @Bodhidrop 2 месяца назад

      @@DisFunctor What about Les Rallizes Dénudés ? That stuff was insane ! They were incredible people. Just wild.

    • @Bodhidrop
      @Bodhidrop 2 месяца назад

      @@DisFunctor Also, Boredoms/Yamantaka Eye. Bit of a different thing there. Melt Banana too.

  • @konsta9600
    @konsta9600 Месяц назад

    Nice video! I love Japanese punk rock. I've listened to a lot of GING NANG BOYZ, Thee Michelle Gun Elephant and Chatmonchy (I guess you can call it at least "punkish").

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you! Those are all great bands too 😁

  • @alextinu8841
    @alextinu8841 Месяц назад

    Man I love your intrest and educative work especially in punk rock! You should check also check some "balkan or east european" influenced punk bands like early Gogol Bordello, Kultur Shock, Athena etc. Cheers!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      Thanks! I'll likely cover some European scenes in the future. Thanks for the recommendations!

  • @Skizze37
    @Skizze37 2 месяца назад +1

    The first two minutes can be summarized as such:
    More harmonic information (chord extensions) can be more interesting, but too much harmonic information (distortion) can overwhelm the listener.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      There's definitely a fine line between the two. Probably why you don't hear too many jazz guitarists rocking out with Mesa Boogies, haha.

  • @uglymusic2603
    @uglymusic2603 Месяц назад

    Hi my friend I love J Punk rock and I think Ken Yokoyama deserves a vid. It would be great

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      Ken is great! I'll likely include him somewhere in a future video!

  • @sp00g37
    @sp00g37 Месяц назад

    I love the sheer amount of jangle in the guitar tone. I wonder how often j punk uses the royal roads progression. I used to listen to a lot of FACT back in the day, granted they were post hardcore

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      Yeah I'm all about that jangly guitar tone too. It's definitely a favourite of mine!

  • @joannamblount
    @joannamblount 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this video!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Of course, no problem. Thanks for watching 🙏

  • @ippotsk
    @ippotsk 2 месяца назад

    Japanese rock rules, I've taken so many pages out of it, as much as I've taken from the Western stuff haha. Great video!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Me too! Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!

  • @SidneyMusic142
    @SidneyMusic142 2 месяца назад +19

    Love japanese punk! Something I've seen in j-punk recently is that bands have been using overdrive more often than before. Ken Yokoyama for example, his newer albums using mostly overdrive while his older ones using distortion

  • @mikomikoP
    @mikomikoP 2 месяца назад +2

    i recommend listening to Aooo guitarist "surii" solo songs he has so many interesting and hit songs

    • @redcomn
      @redcomn 2 месяца назад

      Been following him ever since telecaster B boy

  • @StickSlayersInc
    @StickSlayersInc 2 месяца назад +6

    Any recommendations on bands that apply some of this but in a slightly heavier context? Like a melodic hardcore/skate punk level of heavy

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +5

      Otoboke Beaver are really great if you like wild-sounding hardcore punk. Eastern Youth have a pretty eclectic mix of typical punk rock and, later, more Fugazi-esque sounding stuff. Mass of the Fermenting Dregs also do a lot of this, with a noisier, shoegaze twist.

    • @Slammatoro
      @Slammatoro 2 месяца назад +1

      Brave out, no excuse, stand United come to mind wth hardcore
      Hollow suns have been touring with hardcore bands but they’re probably not what you mean by melodic hardcore

    • @SidneyMusic142
      @SidneyMusic142 2 месяца назад +1

      Ken Yokoyama (Ken Band), Hawaiian6, TOTALFAT, Dradnats, Dizzy Sunfist, GUMX (Korean Singer, rest of the band are japanese I believe), Northern19 and Hi-Standard (slightly more pop punk)

    • @maninthebox2771
      @maninthebox2771 2 месяца назад +1

      the holy trinity of youthful reckless hardcore: Number Girl, Mass of the fermenting dregs and the cabs. Man the fucking cabs were too good.

    • @Slammatoro
      @Slammatoro 2 месяца назад

      @@maninthebox2771 dunno if I’d call them hardcore as much as mathrock (very pedantic)

  • @Adam-hc4ec
    @Adam-hc4ec 2 месяца назад

    Hey man, I know I've been commenting a bunch lately, but are you a Bayside fan at all? I just stàrted relistening to them after years and remember how much I love them.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      I've never really dived that deep into their music tbh. I saw them live once with ALK3, so I'm somewhat familiar with whatever album they were touring around that time - I think that was around 2014. I guess they're a band I don't mind, but I'm not a super fan or anything.

    • @Adam-hc4ec
      @Adam-hc4ec 2 месяца назад

      @SugarpillProd gotcha. I feel like you'd be into the album "the walking wounded" nice fat guitar tracks and pretty sick solos. AK3 is one of my favs. Love the way Skiba writes.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! I'll check it out. Generally I prefer more angular-guitar styles, if we're talking punk guitar, but I do love some of the more technical bands too, just not that into flashy solos, haha. And yeah I agree, Matt's one of the few songwriters that I think is still putting out songs as good as his peak-era.

  • @MrMemes21
    @MrMemes21 2 месяца назад

    very nice video!

  • @RoboSaloonPictures1
    @RoboSaloonPictures1 8 дней назад

    I've been trying to find more music that sounds like this (music that tends to be in a lot of anime intro sequences) but I had no idea what to even search for. I had no idea it was Japanese punk.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  8 дней назад

      Japanese indie, rock and certain styles of punk would all be good starts. It's as varied a scene as it is with most western countries, and those would be good starting points.

  • @capykepro
    @capykepro 20 дней назад +3

    Punk: 😐😐😕💔
    Punk, Japan: 😁😁🤩❤

  • @Jimi_hendrix1
    @Jimi_hendrix1 2 месяца назад +2

    There is a punk band called MIDORI if you like h punk you should check it out

  • @ThatTaiwaneseBrianCheng
    @ThatTaiwaneseBrianCheng 2 месяца назад

    yes finally someone recognizing the greatness of J-Punk

  • @aheendwhz1
    @aheendwhz1 Месяц назад

    If you double-track the guitars anyway, why don't you put the more complex notes on different tracks to distort them individually?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +1

      You can do, though it wouldn't quite sound the same, depending how you separate them out. But breaking chords up into higher and lower register parts is a great technique, it just depends on the sound you're going for.

  • @coltonchristensen2863
    @coltonchristensen2863 2 месяца назад

    I personally think of Bands such as F*** You Heroes, The Stalin , The Blue Hearts, Stance, Punks, Cocobat, Nunchaku, BBQ Chickens, Slang, and Brahman.
    It is more the style I lean towards more the aggressive sound, If you want do this really crucial to make some part of the song to be rhythmically or dynamically complex, more gain, and some really cool bass parts.

    • @herrzyklon
      @herrzyklon 2 месяца назад

      Good shout. I've seen Stance Punks live twice (2008 and 2024) and Rahman once.
      If you like the Blue Hearts, do you also like the High Lows and Cro Magnons ?

  • @dirkda2451
    @dirkda2451 2 месяца назад

    Love this band!!!! nice to see somebody mention them are you familiar with Akaiko-en then? the band Riko used to be in if you don't check them out also Midori

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      I have! Definitely need to check out more of their work though, so thanks for the reminder!

  • @mikomikoP
    @mikomikoP 2 месяца назад

    i recommend Four Get Me A Nots

  • @makmakg242
    @makmakg242 2 месяца назад +11

    You should analyze Anime J-Rock/Pop-Punk intros next

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +2

      I've never really gotten into anime, but the music is always a bop, haha.

    • @balloon3503
      @balloon3503 Месяц назад

      could you drop the names of some of them

    • @makmakg242
      @makmakg242 Месяц назад

      @@balloon3503 most of them are from Naruto, like Haruka Kanata by Asian Kung Fu Generation and GO by FLOW.

  • @LaceEditing
    @LaceEditing 16 дней назад

    This is slightly unrelated but perhaps this is why I've always felt like newer Green Day's music was weaker in intensity than their older stuff. Because their new music tends to use a much cleaner guitar tone that fits in a mix better, but they still rely exclusively on 3 note power triads rather than complex chords, which would be better suited towards their older heavily distorted sound

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  16 дней назад +1

      Yeah, I can sort of see what you mean. I think you could make a case for that, particularly regarding the production on the trilogy records. That said, I think they did a much better job of making things sound a bit rawer and heavier on subsequent releases, like RevRad.

  • @substandardtim
    @substandardtim 2 месяца назад

    Could you do a video on the lead guitar parts? I love how it sounds but I almost think it is layered with a synth. Thanks

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      For which bit specifically? The things I wrote or the Aooo songs?

    • @substandardtim
      @substandardtim 2 месяца назад

      @ oh sorry. The lead part on the intro of the Aooo song you showed a part of in the video. Sorry I don’t know what the title is because I don’t speak Japanese.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      Oh, no worries! I believe it translates to 'Salad Bowl.' I don't think there's any synth going on underneath. You can hear how the note attacks change slightly each time the riff is played through, which normally becomes more obscured once you start layering more dynamically consistent material underneath it. I'd say it's likely a modulation effect - hard to say which one specifically, as there are so many types now, haha. But I'd go with a chorus-style sound; that'll likely get you close. Hope that helps!

    • @substandardtim
      @substandardtim 2 месяца назад

      @@SugarpillProd Thanks!

  • @lavoz88
    @lavoz88 Месяц назад +1

    what program did you use to breakdown the chords string by string? 0:33

  • @guitarzer0hero
    @guitarzer0hero Месяц назад

    any thing you'd know about the riffs? for me, the riffs is what makes me immediately recognise that it's a jpunk tune (other than the guitar's tone). it's just so..... something about it, y'know?

  • @baliimusic
    @baliimusic 2 месяца назад +2

    not punk but i recomemd the cabs!

    • @lovrepetric
      @lovrepetric 2 месяца назад

      YES! i recommend sans visage in return

  • @kanesanford8790
    @kanesanford8790 2 месяца назад

    Sakuran zensen is the best j-punk band out right now

  • @stevencavin
    @stevencavin 2 месяца назад +1

    It's not punk if you're into theory! 😆😉JK ..love the content you put out man! 🤙👊

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +2

      That’s the thing - I’m very theory-light because I don’t know a great deal myself. But I’ve literally had people tell me that explaining what a root note is counts as too much theory to be "punk" 💀

  • @AllanRinnegan
    @AllanRinnegan Месяц назад

    someone knows the exact model of the guitar in the thumbnail? i know its a fender mustang but dunno which model

  • @aumokiro_aumokirovich9647
    @aumokiro_aumokirovich9647 Месяц назад

    my fav japan band is horror punk band called balzac

  • @Leonisdarko
    @Leonisdarko 2 месяца назад +1

    Yo, where do you find a Mustang like that?

  • @kiri17
    @kiri17 2 месяца назад +1

    1:10, 3:10 are these your riffs or are they from a song? If so, what's the name of these?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      1:10 is just something I quickly wrote as an example to the point I was discussing. 3:10 is a song I wrote for a client, which is as-yet unreleased.

    • @thegridlessheathen4627
      @thegridlessheathen4627 Месяц назад

      Hi I am the client. My name is William Hamilton I am an amature vocalist and lyricist, the song was written for my project The Ghosts of Fukushima. The working title of the song is: "The Existential Dread of Flying to Close to Sun,". The songs of my project have yet to be released, because quite frankly I'm afraid to do so. I'm afraid that my contributions in vocals and lyrics won't live up to the quality of the recordings, and I'm afraid of how the larger community will view my project, since when I decided I was going to get back into music I opted to work with a producer to get the sound I wanted instead of working with a band, like I have done in the past.
      Quite frankly I'm only sharing this much because people keep asking him about the songs. 15 by my count that I've chosen to work with @SugarpillProd on so far.

    • @thegridlessheathen4627
      @thegridlessheathen4627 Месяц назад +2

      Hey, sorry if this comes up twice, I thought I posted this but I can't seem to see it. My name is William Hamilton, and I am the client. My project is called, "The Ghosts of Fukushima," and the working title for the song is, " The Existential Dread of Flying to Close to the Sun,". I have not yet made the recording public.

  • @backpackmusician
    @backpackmusician 2 месяца назад

    I love j-music. It’s so underrated. Why don’t more awesome people like you do this stuff?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Honestly I'm surprised how well this video is going over already. It's refreshing to see there's actually quite a large amount of interest in this, over the more typical western bands that get discussed endlessly.
      I'll certainly do more in the future! I just came into this one wanting to talk about how great Aooo is, haha.

    • @backpackmusician
      @backpackmusician 2 месяца назад

      @ yeah man. The bass in those songs is phenomenal, like try checking out zutamayo’s song bad dream. The bass on that is just vile

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      @@backpackmusician Haha yeah Zutamayo's productions are always so fun!

    • @backpackmusician
      @backpackmusician 2 месяца назад

      @@SugarpillProd yeah and recently the creepy nuts craze is also on.

  • @tooclose4c
    @tooclose4c 2 месяца назад

    Gism not mentioned :c

  • @Boris_Chang
    @Boris_Chang Месяц назад

    Whatever became of the FiveSixSevenEights ?

  • @kuwamasayan
    @kuwamasayan 2 месяца назад

    サイコーだぜ、ありがとう。

  • @BigYous
    @BigYous 22 дня назад

    0:36 what software is that?

  • @_reallyjustinlikeig
    @_reallyjustinlikeig 26 дней назад

    really good video, plus you put me on to AOOO so thanks lol. were the chords in the 2nd lesson a reference of another song or was that an original riff ? it was soo catchy !

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  25 дней назад

      Thanks, and I'm glad it helped you find Aooo, they're so good! It's a song I wrote or a client, though I don't think it's been released yet.

  • @DoctaChud
    @DoctaChud Месяц назад +1

    guitar tones sound nice but at a certain point the low gain is not very punk but more indie rock imo. still sounds great though.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +1

      Is there really such a thing as a universal 'punk' tone though? I'd argue it varies massively based on the subgenre - like a typical hardcore tone will sound much different to a post-punk tone. Or a ska punk tone will be very different to a crust punk tone, and so on.

    • @DoctaChud
      @DoctaChud Месяц назад

      @@SugarpillProd Yeah but that's where composition will come into play. You can take that same non universal tone and play many different genre's. If its punk then its punk. who am I to say otherwise.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      Sure, but again, I think it will depend more on the style you're playing in. You’re unlikely to want to use a Mesa sound for the clean offbeat chords in a ska punk song or a 5150 sound in a post-punk track. That’s all I mean by saying there’s no 'universal punk tone' - it really just comes down to what you’re playing, which will likely dictate the best sound for the job.

    • @DoctaChud
      @DoctaChud Месяц назад

      @@SugarpillProd ah understood.

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 месяца назад

    When I think of Japanese bands I think of Envy, Shikabane and F On The Beach.

  • @vance7659
    @vance7659 2 месяца назад

    whats that song throughout the video? it was used for the outro. thanks

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      Oh it's just an old demo of mine I never really did anything with, so I use it as background music now, haha.

  • @lovrepetric
    @lovrepetric 2 месяца назад

    whoever wrote the background song at 2:44 must've heard 델리스파이스's 챠우챠우 :)

    • @lovrepetric
      @lovrepetric 2 месяца назад

      ah, and something else - don't forget LOADS of compression when mixing practically all the instruments, and also let them sometimes blow into the red zone, then do appropriate frequency ironing later. number girl's third album is full of reds right from the first note

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      It's an old demo of mine actually. Can't say I've ever heard that song before, but I do hear some similarities, haha.

  • @jjwbond
    @jjwbond 2 месяца назад +3

    "Ay-Oh"

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +1

      I assumed I'd get it wrong 😂

  • @odorudake
    @odorudake 2 месяца назад

    try kitani tatsuya

  • @ueuedeplatano6931
    @ueuedeplatano6931 2 месяца назад

    How can I transform a simple power chords progression into something more complex like uou did??

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +2

      You can try changing the chord type while keeping the same root note. For instance, if you have a progression of B5, C#5, and D5, you could change those to 7ths and play Bm7, C#m7, and Dmaj7 instead.
      The good thing about power chords is that they are neither major nor minor, which gives you a lot of flexibility to shape them into more interesting sounds if you wish. Often, I’ll start with a basic root note bass line, or perhaps some power chords or octaves. Once I have the basic root notes figured out, I’ll experiment with different chord types to see if they sound better. Hope that helps!

  • @Ramezml
    @Ramezml 2 месяца назад

    What are the 4 chords u use in the example at the end?

  • @ganemrahman3424
    @ganemrahman3424 Месяц назад +3

    This is not Japanese Punk. This is Japanese Alternative Rock/Indie Rock. Some actual Japanese punk bands are GISM, Gauze, the Stalin, the Comes, and Kuro.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +5

      Nope, that's ONE style within Japanese punk. Not all Japanese punk is hardcore, you must realise this, right? It'd be like someone talking about The Clash and then me saying this isn't English punk, English punk is Discharge, Doom, and Extreme Noise Terror. Which would be a very ignorant thing to say.

  • @hhdhpublic
    @hhdhpublic 2 месяца назад +7

    Well aint this completely different from the japanese punk I know which is more in line with disclose, framtid, noisecat, gism, confuse and so on. Especially funny is your recommendation to not have too much distortion while the thing that defines japanese punk to me is that they use so much distortion and fuzz that the whole thing is basically smothered in distortion that pretty much drowns out almost everything else to the point of near inaudibility.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +2

      To each their own. There are tons of different styles and sounds that make up J-punk. Much like in the West, I think it’s highly unlikely anyone can ever define what punk sounds like, because it’s such a broad genre containing so many niche subgenres, each of which will have their own distinct sound pallet. I understand if you got into it through a certain style; I’m, of course, slightly biased toward the bands that got me into both western and Asian punk too, but I don’t think that should mean either of us should discount any of those bands. There's enough room for everyone.

    • @BlommaBaumbart
      @BlommaBaumbart 2 месяца назад +3

      I'm with you. While crust isn't my idea of "punk", when I think of the Japanese punk scene I still think more like Nanchaku, Midori and on the pop-ish end Garlicboys, rather than happy J-Rock like this, which seems more in line with Polkadot Stingray.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +4

      @@BlommaBaumbart Saying crust punk is the only sound that counts as punk is like saying black metal is the only form of metal. It's just an ignorant take at the end of the day. Not meaning you, just what OP seems to be alluding to.

  • @HandlebarOrionX
    @HandlebarOrionX Месяц назад

    1:08 🎵Flintstones. Meet the Flintstones. They're the Flintstones. Modern Flintstones🎵

  • @andresp1010
    @andresp1010 4 дня назад

    What’s the name of the very ending song?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  3 дня назад

      Doesn't really have one, it's just something I wrote for a previous video that I now use for background music.

    • @andresp1010
      @andresp1010 3 дня назад

      @ Bro, but that’s freaking catchy and groovy. I will check out all of your videos!

    • @andresp1010
      @andresp1010 3 дня назад

      BTW, I just realized that the initial comment was meant for this video: ruclips.net/video/duz37yINqLo/видео.htmlsi=I_h7FcIPtIoMLlRN
      Is that song of the very ending yours as well?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  3 дня назад

      @@andresp1010 Thank you, I appreciate it!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  3 дня назад

      Oh yeah, that's another one of mine, haha. I think I used it for one of my old 'how to write emo' videos.

  • @Turtlpwr
    @Turtlpwr 2 месяца назад +11

    Let’s face it: This is all pop punk.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад +10

      Let's face it: you'll call anything you don't like pop punk.

    • @psicologiajoseh
      @psicologiajoseh 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@SugarpillProd👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @superultrathanksmom3845
      @superultrathanksmom3845 Месяц назад

      sometimes people forget punk is dead

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад +2

      @@superultrathanksmom3845 It's really not. If all you listen to is bands that came out 50 years ago, then I understand why you'd think that. But to say it's a dead genre is objectively wrong.

    • @johndeerman2105
      @johndeerman2105 Месяц назад

      I faced it and I LIKE it! ✌️😎😂🎸

  • @radbradmusicartist
    @radbradmusicartist 2 месяца назад

    There's probably no one over society as that of someone living in japan

  • @dimasthehuman48
    @dimasthehuman48 2 месяца назад

    you should check out ging nang boyz!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      Already familiar, but yes, they're very good!

  • @jeka_stolenko
    @jeka_stolenko 2 месяца назад

    Hey
    What was that service to recognize chords?

  • @Elytrii
    @Elytrii Месяц назад

    me with midi guitars: *cries*

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      Haha don't worry, MIDI guitars can be great too! I often use them to fill out parts, or augment certain tracks. And I probably use MIDI basses more than I do my real basses these days.

    • @Elytrii
      @Elytrii Месяц назад

      @SugarpillProd i spend a long time playing around with velocity and stuff

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Месяц назад

      Yeah, I think the hardest thing is making rhythm parts sound realistic. Velocity is definitely the key to making them sound more real, though. If you haven't already, I'd recommend looking at how guitarists play and paying attention to the dynamics in particular. It's the same as programming drums - you just have to learn the nuances of playing the particular instrument, even if you may not be able to play one in real life.

  • @ketchupOW
    @ketchupOW 2 месяца назад

    Where did you get the marshall plugin?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  2 месяца назад

      It's a free plugin you can download here - plugins4free.com/plugin/1545/