1990 Canadian Grand Prix Pre-Qualifying
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Friday morning at 8:30 AM, and nine drivers have 30-minutes to determine which four will advance to the next round of qualifying
Pre-Qualifying results:
1 #33 Roberto Moreno EuroBrun-Judd 1:28.268
2 #14 Olivier Grouillard Osella-Ford 1:28.589
3 #30 Aguri Suzuki Lola-Lamborghini 1:29.372
4 #29 Éric Bernard Lola-Lamborghini 1:29.844
5 #17 Gabriele Tarquini AGS-Ford 1:29.855
6 #18 Yannick Dalmas AGS-Ford 1:30.460
7 #31 Bertrand Gachot Coloni-Subaru 1:44.185
8 #34 Claudio Langes EuroBrun-Judd 1:47.118
9 #39 Bruno Giacomelli Life 1:50.253
I uploaded this video to a torrent site a few years ago and it made it's way to RUclips receiving many positive comments. This is the original video from 1990 as captured from my camcorder.
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15:15 You can clearly see the enormous speed difference between the Life and the rest of the cars.😅
Even sadder when you realize that all the other cars there are also shitboxes*10
plot twist: the life was using 0.75 playback speed
The red one was life?
Imagine that Moreno in the EuroBrun-Judd did a 1.28.2 in Pre-Q, and he wasn't even trying (He was 3 seconds faster in qualify). Giacomelli with the Life was 21 seconds slower than Moreno, and it was 30 seconds slower than Senna's time!
I love everything about this. The pure sound, the obscure teams, the low to the ground and sleek cars, did I mention they sound amazing asf? It just felt a lot more passionate back then. This is a real treasure I stumbled across
Thank you and I’m glad you like it 😊
I love F1 backmarkers teams of that era. Beutiful machines. Great to see the beautiful Life L190 and its astonishing W12 engine, and the final "fly by" at full speed
So nice to be able to actually look at a Coloni for more than half a second 😍
I swear: this is my favourite video in all RUclips. I feel so nostalgic... Im 24yo, but i love Formula 1, i mean the REAL one. All of these tiny teams maybe sound ridiculous for somebody, but for me they are legends. Life, Coloni Subaru, AGS, EuroBrun... I dont know, i feel so nostalgic... Thank you so much for this extraordinary upload, greetings from Sicily
Thank you! I love this comment. Little did I know 30-years after I shot this video I would be sharing with the world! It certainly was a great time for Formula One. I’m glad you can appreciate the video, and get the feeling for how it used to be. Also, Sicily is such a beautiful place. I hope to visit someday!
Same. One difference I'm 33yr old..
Fantastic!
Its a piece of history, a part of F1 that was archived seldomly. Through the eyes of a watchful spectator.
@Rob Hurley did a good job catching that atmosphere. The contrast with modern formula one could not be bigger. Small and obscure teams struggling to climb an ever steepening incline.
Same here. We didn't have a TV, but I devoured those magazines, and here they are in real life. And in the end, it is better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all...
OMG, those cars were so beautiful.
Life get a lot of criticism but they built their own engine and gave it a go. They should be celebrated!
beautiful cars with fantastic sound. Life was the best. Not in terms of speed, but in terms of sound.
The Life doesn't sound that great imo
The ricer Civic of F1 cars
@@acreativename7999Subaru is horrible too. Typical of all subaru product!
Amazing and rare footage back in the days of 40 entries and 26 car grids. This is what F1 was all about, the privateers gave life to this sport. Now you need 1/2 a billion manufacturer dollars to complete a season and not win a race. Next year will be lucky to have 16 cars on the grid. Sad.
So true, what happened to the radical budget caps designed to prevent the death of the privateers?
They said that with Williams selling up, there are no more Privateers? I really thought Haas would be considered a privateer. Shows what I know!
The Life car on here is insane!
Also do you think that they should allow customer cars so that privateers could purchase and compete - even single car teams? Or the 3 car teams spoken of a few years back?
@@MrMiD.Life.Crisis Yes, they should have a cheap option available for privateers, a chassis along with an engine/gearbox package. Something along the lines of MotoGP CRT rules. They can also allow wild card entries and run a 3rd car.
@@BenDover-jn5el In the 70's you had an option of bringing basically your own design, then slap some Goodyear tyres, a specific transmission and a Ford engine on your car and you were good to go. Or the concept of local hero who would only race on his home track (the best example would be Pete Lovely who almost won his home Grand Prix).The problem is that F1 got more professional at the end of the 90's and this drove costs up. Plus the increasing marketing value meant that more and more money was spend to obtain said prestige.
@@Athrun82 Dom't know the story of Pete Lovely almost winning; when it happened?
Please tell me
thank you for letting me relive my youth, even if only for 15 minutes
This is a great comment! I will eventually upload much more 😊
This channel is pure gold.
Thanks!!!
Hi Rob! If you want, English subtitles in our interview with Life mechanics are now available! ruclips.net/video/imx8hww5e5Q/видео.html
Thank you sooooo much! What a fascinating interview. I subscribe to your channel now 😊
Coloni Subaru and Life two team there are the best of Formula 1
Great to see the different shapes of the cars
Lovely video.
The first few years of the 3.5L normally-aspirated era are probably my favorite in the history of Formula 1. As others have said, the sheer number of teams competing (or at least just showing up), the variety in engine makes, and DEFINITELY the most beautiful F1 cars of all time were all from 1989-1991, IMO.
The wail of that Lamborghini V12 in the Lola-Larousse cars is glorious!
Thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome and thank you for commenting. Those engines sounded so great and were so loud. You couldn’t get near the track without wearing ear plugs. I remember thinking to myself as I watched the star drivers and cars, this truly is a great era for Formula One.
I love this era of F1. To me it's a shame privateers cannot afford to compete nowadays. I often wonder if they could run a formula 1.5 championship parallel to regular formula 1 with a tight budget cap and a simpler drive train. The top constructor would win enough prize money to compete in f1 the next season while the lowest f1 team would be relegated to f1.5.
Thanks for sharing! Footage very sought after. Poor Bruno seems to run on slow-mo down main straight.
Thank you for uploading such valuable footage!
For those who say it was the slowest, with the engine at full power the Life made a time slightly higher than that of the Minardi (they were tests on the Imola or Misano Adriatico track)
I don't believe that. But then, I am a huge Minardi fan.
I am glad to found this recording. That F1 was more open and spectator-friendly. Everything is more natural. These cars required much more brave and skill from drivers than today plastic F1 cars.
Agreed!
I was there a year later. I’m one of the few people on the planet to see the Footwork Porsche actually complete laps.
Wow what amazing footage! There can't be many videos where you actually hear the engines of the Coloni-Subaru or the Life due to their limited running! Was that the Life engine you could hear actually running right at the beginning of this video? I've never been able to find any footage of it in action on track, as it didn't do many laps! I feel for the driver just sitting in the cockpit as he was waiting so patiently and probably didn't even get one lap on track due to the car being so unreliable and underdeveloped.
This captures perfectly the essence of F1 at the time, with these small teams having to endure pre-qualifying to even have a shot of making the grid. It's also fabulous that you could get so close to the action, I mean right in the middle of it! Priceless footage. Thanks and I'm working my way through your brilliant uploads. I was 12 at the time of this particular video and Senna was my hero. I'm British and Mansell was awesome too, but I was always McLaren-Honda / Senna fan at heart.
I do believe that was the Life running at the opening of the clip. It’s really great you enjoy these videos. I was also a big fan of Senna’s, he had a certain mystique about him. I have more videos to upload, and saving some of the best for last 😊. As far as being close to the action, I went in 1989 & 1990 with press credentials. How I got those credentials is another story 😂. Thanks again for the comments, I enjoy reading them.
@@robhurley5258 @15:12 you can hear that asthmatic Life engine wheezing up the straight and it just looks so slow compared to the others. But wonderful to hear and see this utter obscurity running "in anger". I was surprised when I Googled to see that Bruno Giacomelli in the Life managed 7 laps in this session before the engine predictably expired. I cross-checked this against my Murray Walker 1991 season review book and he also wrote the same.
Sounds like an intriguing story as to how you got your press credentials! But, very fortunate that you did have them in order to film these rare and special moments.
Yes, Senna did indeed have a special mystique and aura about him. I am still fascinated and in awe of him to this very day.
It is fabulous to see the unsung heroes from further down the grid in these pre-qualifying videos.
@@robhurley5258 It is certainly our Team in the opening part of your video. I'm the guy with the pale blue shirt and black trousers.
@@jammy_rex3038 Confirmed. We also managed (off the top of my head) to do 22 laps at Silverstone and about 10 in Monaco.
@@maurizioferrari7113 I’m so glad you found my channel! It looks like this must have been a very exciting time for you!
Truly Fabulous. This is some amazing footage. Hope it never gets taken down.
Thank you very much for your comments
Wow after so many years, I never thought there's the original longer and in stereo version popping out in the wild. Thank you very much for uploading the whole thing
That AGS is a good-looking car. Not that fast, but it was pretty...
Definitely looked good!
0:10 A very valuable historical document!!! The infamous Life finally captured on movie!
Who would have thought at the time 😊?
My favorite teams!
The randomness of these rare forgotten moments relatively to the history of Formula one makes this somehow epic !! On Thursday June 16 of this year I will go with a high quality camera and will post it with a shout out to you Rob ! Thank you for posting and maybe I will see you there if you still hang around
Hey Julien, that’s awesome! I’m really looking forward to your footage! Thanks very much for the comment 😊
@@robhurley5258 Happy Thursday Rob, I just uploaded the video of today on my page --- ruclips.net/video/PGH7Y53xthk/видео.html 😎
I love hearing about the legendary teams that were Life and Andrea Moda. Every bit as great as the likes of Ferrari and Williams, in their own way 😂
They are still changing the spark plugs on that Life right now.
Hahaha
@the Game, Review and Reallife Channel f1 its a party, being there changing the oil in the slowest car is reason enough for it
Thanks mate. The quality of your videos is amazing.
Thanks, I’m glad you like them!
12:10 Roberto Pupo Moreno na Eurobrun.
Underrated driver.
Thank you for this trip back to memory lane! This is why I loved F1 back in those days.
Great, so this is the original footage. Thank you Rob!
Thank you so much for your comments Maurizio! You are very welcome 😊
The Coloni and Life sound so different coming down the straight.
I've never seen footage of the Life with its engine running before...doesn't it sound awful? Probably wasn't running on all of its 12 cylinders (it probably never did) and that we see here might well be the longest it ever continuously ran for. As for the Coloni-Subaru...everything about that car just looks totally wrong.
Actually, the Subaru did decently in Mexico. Altitude, anyone?
Life's W12 e worked with 12 cylinders all the times the car was on track. The issues weren't caused by misfirings or other similar things.
I giri purtroppo erano abbassati quasi al minimo , se ci fossero stati soldi per lo sviluppo di quel motore che poteva essere rivoluzionario la storia sarebbe stata diversa .Si scopri poi che il problema del motore erano delle bielle difettose date da una azienda ( che non ricordo il nome ) , quando ormai erano falliti fecero un test con nuove bielle è il motore andava benissimo ed era sui tempi degli altri team
Amazing, thanks for the upload
Thanks! Glad you like it.
Olivier Grouillard , was 6 at Le Mans 1996 with the grellow Harrod's McLaren GTR , with Derek Bell and Andy Wallace .
Life is beautiful
God, I love the looks of that Coloni, no sponsors, simple paintscheme, and the car looks so low and wide!
Those years were the best, and I am so disappointed that I was born in 2002 and couldn’t witness this. My first F1 memories are from 2007/2008, and F1 has gone downhill ever since. Such a shame.
Sound comparison buttons for myself:
Life 15:13
Coloni 15:27
Thanks for your comment and I agree with everything you said. Although F1 isn’t what it once was, there is still a lot of great racing - MotoGP, GTWC, etc. I agree though, what a shame.
I don’t think f1 has been downhill ever since. The v6 era is still great
@@Deltaexe190 trust me, I enjoy everything Formula 1, have watched almost every race all the way through for the last 10 years. I am actually really enjoying this season as well!
I just think there’s been a lot of bad decisions the last 15 years;
2005 weekend lasting tires, 2010 refueling ban leading to a complete car change just 1 year after 2009’s (in a financial crisis), 2010 cosworth debacle, 2010 Lola and Epsilon Euskadi team rejecting, 2010 budget cap discussion and than cancelling (ruining new teams), 2011-2013 pirelli tyre lifespan, sprinklers, 2016 qualifying format, reverse grid suggestions, 2020 WeRaceAsOne and than racing in Saudi Arabia hypocrisy, that awful F2 and F3 calendar we had last year, sprint races (I’m sorry but I can’t see the positives for fans), reverse championship wind tunnel time (completely against F1’s DNA) and last year’s team-fia communication line.
I’m not one of those Bring Back V12 guys, that won’t work, but I just hate seeing FOM try to improve the show with those weird changes, while all we really need is a budget cap...
Absolutely incredible footage in great quality.
If memory serves, I did all 16 races that year, but I don’t recall ever going to the pits for pre-qualifying.
Most of those cars were hopeless, or worse . . .
That must have been a great experience! I liked the PQ sessions, it seemed like you could feel the pressure on the teams to perform.
Amazing! Thanks!
Wow, this is amazing and I have so many questions. Did you get to speak with any of the drivers, if so what did you ask them and did they seem happy with their position in the sport having to prequalify and sometimes failing to? Did the Life actually manage to complete a lap that day? I really like the personality in F1 back then, every driver had their own unique helmet design, and these designs aren't overly flashy like today's helmets, they have identifiyable shapes and colours and their names etc. The team liveries are creative and look wonderful. Could you feel the heat of the cars as they came back into the pits? For example the tires and engines must've been very hot after being in full prequalifying mode, or was the heat not as extreme as it is now? Did the team personnel seem frustrated after their driver failed to prequalify? Which teams seemed the most prepared and organized out of all of them and which teams seemed less prepared and organized teams? (excluding life because they were easily the most unprepared). Your experience and content is priceless and I'm sure you know you are very lucky to have seen this mysterious era of F1 so up close. Thank you!
Thanks, and you certainly ask a lot of questions! I’ll answer your questions, best I can 😊. I never really talked to the drivers as they always seemed very focused. PQ was only 30 minutes, so not a lot of time to chat. I think the Life actually DID complete a lap or two, although quite slower than the rest. One of the mechanics actually commented on this video, really nice guy, and just happy to be part of the circus. Great comment on the helmets! For the most part they never changed, even as drivers switched teams. It became their signature so to speak. I’m not a fan at all of today’s helmets. The exhausts certainly were hot, but only if you got REALLY close. What I remember most though, other than the site and speed, was the sound and smell. The sound was incredibly loud - so much so that you couldn’t sit in the grandstands without ear plugs. It was ear piercing like a wall of sound. I’ll upload some future videos that show the sound causing ripples in the tape as I was video taping with my camcorder. The smells were an intoxicating mix of exhaust fumes, tire rubber, brakes, oil, and exotic blends of fuel. Teams like Brabham were the most prepared and made it through PQ pretty easily. You know, I really was lucky to have been there during that period of F1. Thankfully, I knew it and appreciated it at the time that I was watching some of the greatest drivers in the history of the sport at a high point in the sports history. Stay tuned, I have a lot more F1 to upload…
The french micro team AGS and Larousse was the champion of Pre Qualify. The Life is freak car.
I wouldn't say a freak, it was a brave idea (bordering on unconsciousness) that didn't bloom. The car and its mechanics were interesting ro see
They missed the top 4 by 0.01 second :(
First time i have hear the life F1 car, thanks!
You are welcome!
I miss the good old days when racing is just for petrolhead, none of them clueless celebrities
Moreno was awesome
Absolutely! Very under rated driver.
Thank you for all these videos! I had never seen footage of pre-qualifying from the pits before. Did these guys not get access to a garage until they made it through pre-qauly?
Thanks for the comment. I’m not 100% sure, but you may be right about garage access. I just looked at my video taken the day before PQ and didn’t see any of these teams in the garage.
@@robhurley5258 The pits on Montreal are pretty small. They may have reserved the garages for teams that actually pre-qualified. Talk about having the odds stacked against you... you need to pre-qualify with shitty material to begin with, and you'll work on the tarmac, exposed to the elements, LOL!
Bruno just watching the cars go past wishing he was in one of those!!
Kind of seems that way doesn’t it?
Thanks so much for sharing, this really is magical stuff.
You’re welcome!
Mr.11:18 with colorful backpack is so sweet!
Haha good catch!
Life... coloni... fondmetal.... Ags....
The classics
Amazing footage.
the flybys at the end dont even look real. beautiful footage
Many thanks!
Great sounds; ohh how I miss that@
The sound was part of the show!
Thanks for this.
What beautiful cars dude!
Just subscribed.
That’s awesome, thank you!
The saying back then was “unless it snows, the Subaru blows”. 😀
But did the Subaru have a boxer rumble?!
Life W12 !!!
How Ironic that car named LIFE was always dead! The W 12 was a daft F1 race engine, no advantage at all, complex master rod arrangement, the engine also had a poor C of G.
@@chipcity3016 More oddly Bugatti uses this engine configuration 30 years later and so did other VAG cars like the Phaeton
You can close your eyes and you still know what is W12 and what is Lamborghini engine. 😂
It’s so funny you can easily see how slow the Life is compared to all the other cars which are also not the fastest on the grid 😂
Usually you can’t visibly tell the leaders from the mid-pack runners, but clearly not the case unfortunately with the Life. At least they were having fun!
This video should be flagged for pornography! But thanks for sharing this. Man that Coloni sounded like it was misfiring bad down the straight!
Haha thanks! I agree, doesn’t sound good 😌
Disasters like Life are why there is a 107% rule
the Life L190 is like the F1 version of a terrible bootleg game putting disney characters on their cover to fool parents into buying it, except the car is putting Ferrari-like livery on a terrible car to try and look cool.
this car is pretty much what a road legal f1 car would be in its time
this car would probably accept vegetable oil instead of regular oil
this car feels like a disney sequel
yikes, the car looks and sounds like it is on 0.75 playback speed when driven
The different engine configurations, v8, v10, v12, w12 @ flat 12, porno for your ears
I completely agree. I can’t turn the volume up loud enough!
You can see just how inefficient Life's W12 was. Their straight speed was shameful! Popular cars would run faster than that.
The Life sounds like an old tractor. :/
Cause it was a F1-shaped old tractor. Of course, I say it without wanting to disrespect the tractor.
Life Racing Engines was probably the worst team ever to enter F1. At least Andrea Moda qualified in Monaco. Forti was marginally better than Life pace-wise, as was Pacific.
I think the first car is the life team, they didn't even have the money for the driver's seat
That’s amazing!
@@robhurley5258 I had to look up Life's sponsor (Albini & Fontanot). They make spiral staircases.
@@MDCSWildcats86 I had no idea!
Also because there was no SPACE for the seat in that car. The compartment had to be very small to permit the right refresh of the engine.
@@paolomarini2857 Actually, there was a back seat. The cockpit was minuscule. I drove the car (towed by a Renault Espace) for one lap in France, the Team used to put me in for the towing, as I'm not a big guy!
People in the comments putting so much weight on the sound of F1 are extremely annoying and simple minded.
Coloni with Subaru f1 engine Carlo Chiti
and Life goes on 15:11
Eu assistiria 200 horas disso
!!!!!
Money changes everything…
Unfortunately not for the better…
1:50.253 hahaha
The Life engine sounds like a Diesel
Fans then got more value for money: pre-qualifying, more practice sessions, qualifying and race, and more variety as well.
Great comment, so true!
So true and they got a much better engine sound as well.
Mmmm, I was attending Grands Prix back then as well as now, and I dont agree. To watch F2 (then F3000) you would have to usually attend a different event, and if it rained cars often would just stay in the garages during practise sessions.
Pre-qualifying, aka the sessions of shame. What an era though, where you could build a tub, hook a Ford customer engine in the back, and if there was rain, somehow compete with the big dogs. Some of these were complete jokes though. I mean, 22 seconds a lap slower? Even 2 seconds slower than the best of the already slow cars is ludicrous. Senna's pole that year was 1:20.399...
ライフのエンジンがかかっとる。。
初めてw12の音聞きましたよ。シーズン途中から予備予選突破より「ブービーのユーロブルンに何秒迫れるか」が目標みたいになってましたね。
ジャコメリといいアルヌーといい過去を知る側からみたら落ちぶれっぷりが・・・
スバルの名誉?のために言うと、
あれは名義だけで実はスバルのエンジンじゃないんで(汗)
Always playing with the spark plugs on the life. FFS just put the leads on and let's go already!!!!!!
Fuck me Bruno actually did a lap? Looking at the lap times in the descriptions I was expecting his Life car to be minutes off the pace but he was only 3 seconds behind the car in front? Which was actually an achievement lol
This isn't proper quali tho, its pretty qui, a heat of the worst, so 3 secs of the pace is pretty bad
3 seconds off the car in front, but a massive 20 seconds off actually getting through to qualifying,
And a massive 30 seconds off pole position time.
To put it into perspective, if he and Senna set off at the same time, Senna would be lapping him near the end of the 3rd lap.
That’s LIFE mechanic finding any excuse to not LET the that POS W engine run!
ライフだけ1mmも動けてないの草
15:12 Slower engine!🤣🤣
Soul and magic on those f1cars.
And drivers were true heroes.
Today is just plastic shite souless.
Thanks for your comment and I agree with everything you said
Oh Life....shame the engines had no Life in them!
ライフが走ってる…((( ;゚Д゚)))ガクガクブルブル
??
Here is an interesting interview with 2 of the 5 team members who produced, rebuilt, accompanied the car on the tracks:
ruclips.net/video/imx8hww5e5Q/видео.html
Life attempted to produce the whole car in house: chassis, engine, gearbox without financing (!)
Now only if I could speak Italian!
Yes I know, it's a long interview, I'd suggest to the enthusiastic authors to arrange English subtitles for this interesting interview
@@robhurley5258 Maurizio Ferrari, who was a member of the team, fluently speak english and he would be glad to satisfy your curiosity and answer your questions
PS:
Look at Oliver's red hair on the right in the photo. In reality he had them black, in the photo they are red because during the night he had painted the dome in the truck near the track after having rebuilt it
@@studiocalder818 thank you so much for the information
85-95 IMO was the golden era of F1. Cars were still being developed, unique concepts, freedom to experiment.
But as with most things technology slowly destroys it. F1 today is a joke, so boring, cars lack character. But the genie can't be put back in the bottle. F1 is dead.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. Honestly, I can’t watch F1 anymore, and you’re right, it’s never going to return back to the amazing sport it used to be.
@@robhurley5258 The halo was the nail in the coffin for me.
@@hugolafhugolaf I’m definitely old school, so I was turned off by DRS, push to pass, anything gimmicky. I honestly can’t watch it anymore. I’m not a fan of the halo either (saying that brings a lot of hate). I can’t watch Indy cars anymore either, I think they look ridiculous. I love Endurance and GT racing. For me MotoGP has filled the void of F1. It has all of the elements of the old F1.
@@robhurley5258 To top it all off, it's the hypocrisy that annoys me. They ditched the V10s and then the V8s to go «green», yet they keep adding races in far away places. They support LH's «diversity» talk, but keep adding races in the middle east, where you can be stoned to death for being gay. They let him display BLM stuff, when BLM is at best an anarchist movement, at worst a terrorist one. They want to reduce their carbon footprint, but implement sprint races. And now a race in Saudi Arabia is in the cards, and Aramco sponsored - of all things - a GP held in TEXAS? It's one thing to be cash hungry, but F1 is becoming a big joke. And the whole cost cap thing, please... there is no way to control/police this.
THIS IS NOT FORMULA 1, THERE'S ONLY ONE F1