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@@Zerethon I think overhead spinner in the fashion of SOW or Bloodsport except with swerve drive would be pretty sweet. That way the weapon can protect the delicate parts of the bot and is dangerous from all angles. Self righting might become an issue though.
@TriVos Ahren this is a swerve drive. If you could balance, it could move any direction with just one wheel. Adding a second wheel allows it to rotate. 3rd is just more stable/redundant.
@@wristofkings It would also have none of the benefits though. The reason to use swerve drive at all is to allow you to rotate your bot towards the opponent whilst moving in a different direction. SOW and Bloodsport don't need to do this, they're effective no matter from which side they are attacked.
Triple crowns drive is called a swerve drive, and is actually very commonly used in other robot competitions, except battlebots, they are fragile, and heavy. All it could take is one hit to completely shut a wheel down because a gear is just as exposed as the wheel itself, it’s just impractical
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Being smarter does not mean always being right. It only means *probably* being correct more often. Most successful BB designs look to be simple and robust - Bite Force, Tombstone, Endgame. All of the designers obviously know the principles far better than almost everyone, but they sometimes prioritise fun over practicality.
Nah, this all came down to operator skill. Triple crown operator didn't take advantage of the mobility, hesitated when he should have gone for wheels in ideal positioning, and just passively made a lethal (for himself) approach when he should have maneuvered there. Guy didn't play well.
The best fighting robots are usually the least complex, less things to break, this is why Valkyrie is so good, it's litterally just a blade on wheels. Triple Crown doesn't look like it even knows what it wants to be - a wedge, a spinner, an overly complex wheel system - a great design for maybe moving boxes around a warehouse but this is a robot fighting competition.
I think the blade lifted the chasis up disabling its wheels from making contact to the ground, valkyrie didn't attack the wheels , but the tripple crown vehicle was not well though of for this issue. it propelled itself well its unfortunate that it got attacked on that crown anywhere else and the outcome may have been different, valkyrie has the experience though so it was a matter of time, once they realized what the design was it was over as they hadn't seen a bot like tripple crown in arena.
Triple Crown is one huge “Achilles’ heel“. I took one look at it and thought it was a joke. It didn’t stand a chance against any decent bot. Might as well get them out of their delusions ASAP.
@@internetduck1114 Yes, but ones that have a chance of working. I’ve noticed that modular bots like Triple Crown, made of multiple separate pieces bolted together fall apart when confronted by a solidly constructed bot with an effective weapon.
yeah, but showing them the flaws of their design on their first fight is also good for their improvement ! with better protected wheels and a longer range weapon, triple crown could be quite good I think
As a competitor in the late 90s /early 2000's the fact is .. "simple works" The more complicated the drive/weapon and whatever the more likely it is to get trashed, I knew from the moment I saw it, it was not going to last. I think people truly do not understand the forces at play when 1/4 inch plate is punched like carboard. . Repeatedly on the show, the most winning robots have simplicity, Weapons that need little "aiming", as much KE as you can store and someone who knows the mantra LTFD .
Agreed, but can't help to think if there was an effective pilot behind the reins what it could do. Just because you can build it doesn't mean you can drive it
I feel like it looks like it's more suited for debris cleanup and construction sites than the arena there's just not enough armor on its weapon is too small
Wish the tournament runners had paired up triple crown with another rookie so we could see them on an even playing field, and not feed them to the previous most destructive robot
But if they did progress in the tournament, they would be facing the more destructive bots. This was a good chance for them to get real experience with their new bot and quickly see the flaws. Being tossed straight into the fire allows one to rise or fall. If they would have kept their weapon pointed at the opponent, the outcome could have been different. They talked about the maneuverability of the bot, but we didn't get to see that.
@@smee5437 I mean getting one fight to work out gremlins and maybe get a couple minutes of driving, *then* get fed to the bot that will totally destroy you in one hit would be nice, I think. On the other hand, a fight against another rookie bot might result in a fight so boring it doesn't even make it to RUclips while Valkyrie guarantees at least some excitement, so... tradeoffs.
@@wyrmh0le The bot was new, the team was not. I believe they have won a championship in the past. So in reality, they should know how to build a bot. To find the gremlins is being tossed into the fire. Now they can make changes to see if they can progress further into the competition.
@@smee5437 The bot is new and using new techniques and technology and that means issues are likely no matter how experienced the teams are -- look how many experienced builders basically lose a season on the switch to brushless motors, now multiply that by, uh, everything. They really didn't get a chance to find any gremlins in that fight, seriously. What, did they figure out that a giant fu undercutter is bad for their wheels? How could they have known?!
@@wyrmh0le Exactly. so fighting a lesser bot would not have uncovered that. If someone never built a bot before, they will have a huge learning curve. Someone that has built a bot before has prior experience to go off of. So they know from experience what works, what doesn't work, what may work and what may not work.
"Welcome back Todd, That's a nice complicated new robot you got there. I would be a shame if it had to fight literally the MOST DESTRUCTIVE ROBOT from last season."
@JOSH Sorry about whoever caused you such grief man, I hope they catch them and bring them to justice so your sensitive little mind can get some rest at night. 🤡
I know robots like Triple Crown never do good, but did they have to go out of their way to give it its worst possible matchup? lol it's almost like they wanted to give Valkyrie a freebie after it lost to a "low-tier" bot like P1
I would bet that their consideration was what would be the most entertaining thing to watch. Triple Crown was rushed and overly complex, they would have known that it would not have survived a significant impact from almost any bot. So instead of putting it in the ring with something that might have knocked it out with a little tap, and bored the audience to death, they put it in with a heavy hitter that would get some spectacle out of the thing.
When they did the whole main show stuff(intro's strategy button pushing etc) i already knew this would be over in a flash. Triple crown looks very cool, but should've gotten a less dangerous bot as its first match. I think it can do interesting things against opponents like jager and smeeeee
Its so they can keep the bots that bring the most ratings around as long as possible. Its no longer about fair competition, just about how much money can they make off of these people.
Honestly triple crown is one of those robots you wonder how they got on battlebots, it's brilliantly made but it's clearly so complicated it'll fall apart with the slightest hit, it's clearly got no pushing power, and the weapons are clearly going to be incredibly weak, I honestly think it'd fail to beat rusty.
Triple crown is a brand new bot and also the first bot to feature swerve drive, on top of being unfinished and it was a back-up team anyways. The guy who built it has also won a ton of other competitions iirc. And no bot is gonna win its first fight really, especially against Valkyrie. I’d be excited to see triple crown finished, improved and returning next year.
A robot that could strafe circles around its opponent while keeping the front towards enemy is a great concept. I'm hoping to see an improved Triple Crown in the future
@@suzukisixk7 Chomp was severely more mechanically complicated but its purpose was simple, its a hammer bot. Tripple Crown is nowhere near as complex but what is it trying to do?
Blip, a new robot from the team that finished top 4 last year got to fight Rusty. Triple Crown, a bot that is from an experienced team but new to Battlebots gets Valkyrie. Not exactly fair is it?
This fight likely happened because Valkyrie lost its first match. Same thing happened to Slap Box a year ago: drew Tombstone as its first match because Tombstone lost its first match.
The whole structure of Battlebots is pretty illogical. It's styled as a tournament, but does next to nothing to make it competitive. Teams are punished for introducing an interesting gimmick and then forced to stick with it the whole season. It's more like the WWE than MMA, but it puts on airs like its a real competition. Actual fighting sports have amateur fighters work their way up in the field until they prove they are capable of face a proven fighter and they don't let heavy weights pound down on middleweights. I feel like you could easily segregate the field by weapon class and have champions for each like the champions of different weight classes or titles, and then have them face off in mixed fights and exhibitions as well. Triple crown could be a really interesting control bot, but to be competitive is has to be a spinner and due to its unique drive it can never be a really good spinner. Worse its forced to face an excellent spinner which just wastes time and money.
The bot physically have a decent idea, but the complexity was bad, not because that's more areas to fail, but because that's more things for the driver to have to wrap his head around. I think mecanum wheels could have done the same things just with less complexity
The ability to always face your opponent is a very powerful feature that could have allowed Triple Crown to win, However ether the driver or the controls made this advantage null.
If they didn't have limitations on robot type size and weaponry it would be much more interesting. It's mostly oversized roombas with wedges, pneumatic flippers, saws, and drills attached. I don't think any electromagnetic, chemical, ballistic, or energy weapons are allowed.
Yeah, the matchups have been especially puzzling and lopsided this season. Very disappointing that they can't do better with such a solid roster compared to 2020.
@@kirill1052 I still remember poor little Grabot, the committee always gave them like Tombstone or Gigabyte like c'mon..and you notice that team isn't there this year probably because they were thrown to the sharks and never given a fight to even show the little arms work, there was a child even on that team too, just a bad look really
The announcer talking about the excitement of a rookie bot builder bring their bot in for the first while it's literally the least enthusiastic entrance ever is hilarious.
There is an elegance in simplicity that Triple Crown proved to be true. Having too much going on usually means having more weak spots and doing a lot of things in mediocrity rather than one thing really well.
I wish Todd Mendenhall was still using his Wrath/Panzer Mk 4 Robots to compete on BB. I think it would’ve stood a much better chance than Triple Crown, especially when Wrath Jr made the MW Quarterfinals 20 years ago. That’s another thing I missed, the different weight classes in BB, and how destructive they could be.
1- Plans rarely survive contact with a punch in the face. 2- The more complexity, the more paths to failure. 3- Don’t give up: analyze and correct deficiencies.
@@Jinsoku440 Huge is a cool gimmick, the old rotator was pointless, the new one makes sense, lockjaw I don't feel like really fits this category, but Fusion does - Fusion works because it can use either a horizontal or vertical, whichever it needs, but it sacrifices having more efficacy with one weapon, in order to have 2 weapons that keep it from being countered - they fail to realize that in doing so, the opponent also has a guaranteed counter against it. If a vertical spinner counters the opponents wedge, then the opponent can just go after their horizontal portion - it would make much more sense to just have a bot with 2 interchangeable configurations, 1 mount for a vertical spinner, & 1 for horizontal, that way, they can change it accordingly in order to counter their opponent, while maximizing the effectiveness of each weapon, and not sacrificing weight that could otherwise be put into armor. It's just not practical how it is.. it's something a kid would come up with, and of course it wins some fights, but that doesn't mean it couldn't easily be better, it's just because it is a combat robot built by people with experience and know-how.
@@Frosty_tha_Snowman you missed a bit of my point. Early Lockjaw was a spring loaded crusher/flipper; and REALLY fked up a few 'bots back in the day, RotatŔ had decent success in the off season (same with Counter Revolution, who actually beat a version of Tombstone in Robogames) and was known to whip a bot or two with that right hook. And HUGE is not just a cool gimmick, it's a direct engineering counter to the current meta, from weapon height, to construction they eat *most* of the verts alive. You start with a concept, then iron out the details through trial and error; that's just kind of how engineering works? 💁🏿♂️
They just try to have fun with making a new robot, this is clearly not meant to be a contender but it's unique which is cool, I hate how everyone immediately clowns the builders who try something new. If everyone were like you it'd be all verts.
What a gem! Like many of these ‘bots, it’s almost too pretty to fight! I also like the bot called Synchros, another complex machine that is beautifully designed and built.
Its complex for sure, but chomp 2 has to be the most complicated bot ever built, and just like chomp 2, triple crown proves, that complex isn't necessarily, better. you have to sacrifice to much in armor and weapon weight to add these super complex systems for them to ever leave you with strong contender. While i can appreciate the work that went into making it work, you sadly can see that it doesn't have a active weapon that is going to do any damage to a more traditionally built 250lb bot, its weapon looked more like that of a 125 lb bot. the weapon is way out of its weight class. The omni directional wheels of shatter do exactly the same thing, and dont sacrifice nearly as much weight, and are not anywhere close to being as exposed. This would have done very well in robot wars where the weapons and armor are not nearly as strong as battlebots.
Triple crown should've had horizontal spinners between the wheels on all sides, that were also thick, wide, and tall so that almost skimmed the ground and its own wheels. It would be good defense against an undercutter and land powerful blows. Maybe on the outside of the wheels there could've been wedges just so that the entire outside of the bot would be protected.
That was too easy for Valkyrie. And I remember in the intro of the first episode, their fight with Blip was previewed and it did not look good for them. I am very concerned about their chances making the top 32.
Triple crown is up there with warhead in terms of beauty. The bot just needs some form of shock absorbance on its internals. Im interested in RX's performance next year!
I think the special ingredient for battlebots is stick to a basic attack mode and be good at it. Bots which overcomplicate their design usually loses in the tourneys.
It's an interesting idea, to have a drive system where you can quickly move in any direction quickly... but taking that idea and turning it into a durable fighting robot is not going to be easy. I think it would be really fun if Triple Crown somehow was able to take the concept and add a more practical weapon loadout. I'd love to see a bot where superior driving would really carry the day.
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The drive on Triple Crown looks so cool, shame the robot just wasn't finished in time and needs scaling down a bit too be effective
Im picturing a 2wd version with just the horizontal spinner and more beef, that omniwheel-esque drive with a tombstone bar would be terrifying
@@Zerethon I think overhead spinner in the fashion of SOW or Bloodsport except with swerve drive would be pretty sweet. That way the weapon can protect the delicate parts of the bot and is dangerous from all angles. Self righting might become an issue though.
@TriVos Ahren this is a swerve drive. If you could balance, it could move any direction with just one wheel. Adding a second wheel allows it to rotate. 3rd is just more stable/redundant.
@TriVos Ahren they move in all directions doesnt matter if its just 2
@@wristofkings It would also have none of the benefits though. The reason to use swerve drive at all is to allow you to rotate your bot towards the opponent whilst moving in a different direction. SOW and Bloodsport don't need to do this, they're effective no matter from which side they are attacked.
Triple crowns drive is called a swerve drive, and is actually very commonly used in other robot competitions, except battlebots, they are fragile, and heavy. All it could take is one hit to completely shut a wheel down because a gear is just as exposed as the wheel itself, it’s just impractical
"What you can expect in this fight is disaster"
Love him or hate him, the man's spitting straight facts
The man's robot is spitting more than facts.
@@JonatasAdoM HAHA SAVAGE
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I thought the same thing -“one way or another it’s fina be a disaster.”
@@Puggy42069 bro back off. You can have your beliefs but don’t shoot someone else down for that.
Rule of thumb: the simpler the machine, the more robust it is.
Mmmhm, the more moving parts something has means more ways for it to break.
As if they don't know that...
How TF do yt commentors really assume they're smarter than the people inventing complex machinery?
Being smarter does not mean always being right. It only means *probably* being correct more often.
Most successful BB designs look to be simple and robust - Bite Force, Tombstone, Endgame. All of the designers obviously know the principles far better than almost everyone, but they sometimes prioritise fun over practicality.
In a way, simpler it is, less things that can go wrong
Nah, this all came down to operator skill. Triple crown operator didn't take advantage of the mobility, hesitated when he should have gone for wheels in ideal positioning, and just passively made a lethal (for himself) approach when he should have maneuvered there. Guy didn't play well.
The best fighting robots are usually the least complex, less things to break, this is why Valkyrie is so good, it's litterally just a blade on wheels. Triple Crown doesn't look like it even knows what it wants to be - a wedge, a spinner, an overly complex wheel system - a great design for maybe moving boxes around a warehouse but this is a robot fighting competition.
Valkyrie looks like the death star hull on the plus side.
this is how whyachi shouldve been designed IMO
True but fairly boring to watch. It is like watching a vacuum.
Trying to pack too many abilities into a single bot.
It looks like a fidget spinner
This is the saddest fight I've ever seen
Watch the next one with tripple crown😂😂😂 you will weep😎
@@MrDIAMONDCORyou wasn’t lying
Big hype tho, big hype
@@Mr.Papos.provide me link to the video
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That's an interesting drive. Unfortunately for Triple Crown, Valkyrie's blade was at the perfect height to shred those wheels.
Unfortunately having three wheels means every direction has an exposed wheel, the loss of any one will disable the entire bot.
@@lambertlum1087 you’re smart
valk was a hard counter for triple crown holy cow
Shatter has a similar omni-direction drive but it's 4 wheels. Omni drives are so underused in Battle Bots.
I think the blade lifted the chasis up disabling its wheels from making contact to the ground, valkyrie didn't attack the wheels , but the tripple crown vehicle was not well though of for this issue. it propelled itself well its unfortunate that it got attacked on that crown anywhere else and the outcome may have been different, valkyrie has the experience though so it was a matter of time, once they realized what the design was it was over as they hadn't seen a bot like tripple crown in arena.
Man Triple crown was working so well until it got hit.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"
-Iron Mike
"How do we encourage people to make innovative drive systems? Oh I know, let's make their first match against their Achilles heel!"
Triple Crown is one huge “Achilles’ heel“. I took one look at it and thought it was a joke. It didn’t stand a chance against any decent bot. Might as well get them out of their delusions ASAP.
"Modern problems require modern solutions"
@@internetduck1114 Yes, but ones that have a chance of working. I’ve noticed that modular bots like Triple Crown, made of multiple separate pieces bolted together fall apart when confronted by a solidly constructed bot with an effective weapon.
Its like that kid who had to face tombstone in his 1st or 2nd match last yr
yeah, but showing them the flaws of their design on their first fight is also good for their improvement !
with better protected wheels and a longer range weapon, triple crown could be quite good I think
As a competitor in the late 90s /early 2000's the fact is .. "simple works" The more complicated the drive/weapon and whatever the more likely it is to get trashed, I knew from the moment I saw it, it was not going to last. I think people truly do not understand the forces at play when 1/4 inch plate is punched like carboard. . Repeatedly on the show, the most winning robots have simplicity, Weapons that need little "aiming", as much KE as you can store and someone who knows the mantra LTFD .
Triple crown is an amazing machine brilliant engineering...just not great for robot combat
Agreed, but can't help to think if there was an effective pilot behind the reins what it could do. Just because you can build it doesn't mean you can drive it
I feel like it looks like it's more suited for debris cleanup and construction sites than the arena there's just not enough armor on its weapon is too small
@@Lootz_n_Scootz yeah the desgins is a military prototype just without the weapons how do you test it battlebots of course
could have been with better defence
they clearly never watched a bot battle before. but most of these are rigged so its all cool i guess.
I half expected it to split up into 3 different mini bots and dominate the other bot from 3 sides. 😄
That would have been epic and maybe 1 of the 3 could have gone the distance and sent it to the judges.
Wish the tournament runners had paired up triple crown with another rookie so we could see them on an even playing field, and not feed them to the previous most destructive robot
But if they did progress in the tournament, they would be facing the more destructive bots. This was a good chance for them to get real experience with their new bot and quickly see the flaws. Being tossed straight into the fire allows one to rise or fall.
If they would have kept their weapon pointed at the opponent, the outcome could have been different. They talked about the maneuverability of the bot, but we didn't get to see that.
@@smee5437 I mean getting one fight to work out gremlins and maybe get a couple minutes of driving, *then* get fed to the bot that will totally destroy you in one hit would be nice, I think.
On the other hand, a fight against another rookie bot might result in a fight so boring it doesn't even make it to RUclips while Valkyrie guarantees at least some excitement, so... tradeoffs.
@@wyrmh0le The bot was new, the team was not. I believe they have won a championship in the past. So in reality, they should know how to build a bot. To find the gremlins is being tossed into the fire. Now they can make changes to see if they can progress further into the competition.
@@smee5437 The bot is new and using new techniques and technology and that means issues are likely no matter how experienced the teams are -- look how many experienced builders basically lose a season on the switch to brushless motors, now multiply that by, uh, everything.
They really didn't get a chance to find any gremlins in that fight, seriously. What, did they figure out that a giant fu undercutter is bad for their wheels? How could they have known?!
@@wyrmh0le Exactly. so fighting a lesser bot would not have uncovered that.
If someone never built a bot before, they will have a huge learning curve.
Someone that has built a bot before has prior experience to go off of. So they know from experience what works, what doesn't work, what may work and what may not work.
Not gonna lie, I had no idea this show still existed. Glad to see it still going strong though. Always loved the idea.
They rebooted it a few years ago.
"Welcome back Todd, That's a nice complicated new robot you got there. I would be a shame if it had to fight literally the MOST DESTRUCTIVE ROBOT from last season."
Uppercut: am I a joke to you?
@@uranium54321 Not a joke, but also not the giant bolt winner. ;) (wouldn't be surprised if they take it this year based on the season so far)
To quote Montgomery Scott: "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
Its great to see Todd back in robot combat again. Shame Triple Crown didn't get much of a chance in this one.
@JOSH don't read the comments first before watching next time then lol
TC can get going, it just needs to not be taken out from under itself.
@JOSH The lack of self awareness in your comment is absolutely staggering.
@JOSH Sorry about whoever caused you such grief man, I hope they catch them and bring them to justice so your sensitive little mind can get some rest at night. 🤡
You think of veteran would know better than to use hub motors and leave wheels on protected and use such a tiny weapon
Triple Crown seems like the bot equivalent of the guy who's afraid to lose, so he preps for everything XD
I know robots like Triple Crown never do good, but did they have to go out of their way to give it its worst possible matchup? lol
it's almost like they wanted to give Valkyrie a freebie after it lost to a "low-tier" bot like P1
Probably did it on purpose tbh I was there for the filming of both and yea I can say there’s a lot of stuff that’s changed for the show
I would bet that their consideration was what would be the most entertaining thing to watch. Triple Crown was rushed and overly complex, they would have known that it would not have survived a significant impact from almost any bot. So instead of putting it in the ring with something that might have knocked it out with a little tap, and bored the audience to death, they put it in with a heavy hitter that would get some spectacle out of the thing.
@@CheezMonsterCrazy fair point
Everyone: P1 is Low tier
P1: gets 2-1 score
Everyone: Oh those are accidents we are not letting P1 get into the elimination rounds
When you bring a Fidget Spinner to a robot fight
Triple crown needs to be lower to the ground. Looks menacing and intimidating, but it holds no chance. Too many things to go wrong.
Actually, the weakness is an exposed wheel no matter which direction the bot faces.
the old dude driving looks so sweet. he said "well done" after getting destroyed 😭
When they did the whole main show stuff(intro's strategy button pushing etc) i already knew this would be over in a flash. Triple crown looks very cool, but should've gotten a less dangerous bot as its first match. I think it can do interesting things against opponents like jager and smeeeee
exactly, they throw certain bots to the wolves it seems i.e. Grabot last season
It's called "they threw Valkyrie a softie to get it a win".
@@2097Pyros exactly
Its so they can keep the bots that bring the most ratings around as long as possible. Its no longer about fair competition, just about how much money can they make off of these people.
@@blitzrigen i want to see a show that is entirely low budget bots that dont cost as much as a car
He was so caught up in if he could design a bot like that, that he didn't ask if he should design a bot like that.
Honestly triple crown is one of those robots you wonder how they got on battlebots, it's brilliantly made but it's clearly so complicated it'll fall apart with the slightest hit, it's clearly got no pushing power, and the weapons are clearly going to be incredibly weak, I honestly think it'd fail to beat rusty.
They probably select unique bots over strong bots, since if they chose only the strongest bots then they would all be the same.
Triple crown is a brand new bot and also the first bot to feature swerve drive, on top of being unfinished and it was a back-up team anyways. The guy who built it has also won a ton of other competitions iirc. And no bot is gonna win its first fight really, especially against Valkyrie. I’d be excited to see triple crown finished, improved and returning next year.
Swerve drive should be able to push well
It probably would have done something against anything except valkyrie, who is explicitly an undercutter.
@@JustinWilliams-ed2ug Paul Wall is the people's champ
A robot that could strafe circles around its opponent while keeping the front towards enemy is a great concept. I'm hoping to see an improved Triple Crown in the future
*is this the most complicated BattleBot ever build?*
*Chomp has entered the chat*
At least with Chomp, you get an idea of what it's supposed to do. Triple Crown looks really confusing at first (and maybe second and third) glance.
@@kaitlynwickham6237 ok? Triple crowd looks complicated and the drive system is but nowhere near the complex level of engineering chomp has.
@@suzukisixk7 Chomp was severely more mechanically complicated but its purpose was simple, its a hammer bot. Tripple Crown is nowhere near as complex but what is it trying to do?
@@sebastianriz4703 I'd say it's trying to hide from it's wife playing around in the garage....or at least that's all it did do :)
“Every robot has a plan until they get chopped in the rotary girder” - Robot Mike Tyson
Blip, a new robot from the team that finished top 4 last year got to fight Rusty. Triple Crown, a bot that is from an experienced team but new to Battlebots gets Valkyrie. Not exactly fair is it?
It's really odd this season
Well blip is fighting valkyrie later this season, so... (Confirmed via the trailer)
This fight likely happened because Valkyrie lost its first match. Same thing happened to Slap Box a year ago: drew Tombstone as its first match because Tombstone lost its first match.
The whole structure of Battlebots is pretty illogical. It's styled as a tournament, but does next to nothing to make it competitive. Teams are punished for introducing an interesting gimmick and then forced to stick with it the whole season. It's more like the WWE than MMA, but it puts on airs like its a real competition.
Actual fighting sports have amateur fighters work their way up in the field until they prove they are capable of face a proven fighter and they don't let heavy weights pound down on middleweights. I feel like you could easily segregate the field by weapon class and have champions for each like the champions of different weight classes or titles, and then have them face off in mixed fights and exhibitions as well.
Triple crown could be a really interesting control bot, but to be competitive is has to be a spinner and due to its unique drive it can never be a really good spinner. Worse its forced to face an excellent spinner which just wastes time and money.
The designers probably focused way too much on the driving and not the whole combating with weapons aspect
Everyone: Super complicated massively destructive combat robot
Announcer: fidget spinner
2:27 I think that's what all of us were expecting from the draw.
The bot physically have a decent idea, but the complexity was bad, not because that's more areas to fail, but because that's more things for the driver to have to wrap his head around.
I think mecanum wheels could have done the same things just with less complexity
I appreciate them not completely destroying triple crown. I think it could honestly win a fight or two if it gets the right matchup
The ability to always face your opponent is a very powerful feature that could have allowed Triple Crown to win, However ether the driver or the controls made this advantage null.
Never knew this existed until now. Looks like a cool competition.
Oh yeah dude! Check out the stuff from the late 90s and 00s! Ziggo and Toro are good ones.
And robot wars in the UK.
Whhhhhaaaaaat?
Its a TV series, thursday nights in central CA.
btw. Grant Imahara from mythbusters was a robot builder here.
If they didn't have limitations on robot type size and weaponry it would be much more interesting. It's mostly oversized roombas with wedges, pneumatic flippers, saws, and drills attached. I don't think any electromagnetic, chemical, ballistic, or energy weapons are allowed.
Triple crown could have his own car company with that wheel design, its unique and so maneuverable
I wish there were more pictures and videos on Triple Crown, I’d love to see a teardown on how everything works!
Tombstone could probably do a teardown pretty quickly.
On the teams RUclips channel (terra engineering) there's exactly that
1:34 thats exactly what i thought it looks like a fidget spinner
Battlebots need a better match making committee and this is exactly why
Yeah, the matchups have been especially puzzling and lopsided this season. Very disappointing that they can't do better with such a solid roster compared to 2020.
@@wristofkings My thoughts exactly, best roster in years, have matches like this....
Well, they've done a good job feeding their darling after the loss. First tombstone, now this
@@kirill1052 I still remember poor little Grabot, the committee always gave them like Tombstone or Gigabyte like c'mon..and you notice that team isn't there this year probably because they were thrown to the sharks and never given a fight to even show the little arms work, there was a child even on that team too, just a bad look really
The announcer talking about the excitement of a rookie bot builder bring their bot in for the first while it's literally the least enthusiastic entrance ever is hilarious.
Triple Crown be like: "I'm radioactive, radioactive 🎵"
Welcome to the new age. To the new age.
He was radioactive and Valkyrie was tombstone
There is an elegance in simplicity that Triple Crown proved to be true. Having too much going on usually means having more weak spots and doing a lot of things in mediocrity rather than one thing really well.
I wish Todd Mendenhall was still using his Wrath/Panzer Mk 4 Robots to compete on BB. I think it would’ve stood a much better chance than Triple Crown, especially when Wrath Jr made the MW Quarterfinals 20 years ago.
That’s another thing I missed, the different weight classes in BB, and how destructive they could be.
Or Biohazard, my favourite battle robot ever.
Panzer Mk4 would have done worse actually. Technology has drastically changed and that bot series is cannon fodder by todays standards.
How about a Panzer MK 5?
It was really nice of Valkrie's drivers not to just push Triple Crown into that shredder wall.
Guy wasn't wrong, it was a disaster
The more complex something is, the easier it is to break.
I feel like a drive like that would work really well on a full body spinner
If you could make the bot small enough that would be terrific
@@Matthew-ib2xt ringmaster
1- Plans rarely survive contact with a punch in the face.
2- The more complexity, the more paths to failure.
3- Don’t give up: analyze and correct deficiencies.
I swear, some of the people who make these robots are absolutely genius, but lack any form of common sense.
You start with a high concept, then start to make is usable, see RotatŔ, HUGE, Lockjaw
@@Jinsoku440 Huge is a cool gimmick, the old rotator was pointless, the new one makes sense, lockjaw I don't feel like really fits this category, but Fusion does - Fusion works because it can use either a horizontal or vertical, whichever it needs, but it sacrifices having more efficacy with one weapon, in order to have 2 weapons that keep it from being countered - they fail to realize that in doing so, the opponent also has a guaranteed counter against it. If a vertical spinner counters the opponents wedge, then the opponent can just go after their horizontal portion - it would make much more sense to just have a bot with 2 interchangeable configurations, 1 mount for a vertical spinner, & 1 for horizontal, that way, they can change it accordingly in order to counter their opponent, while maximizing the effectiveness of each weapon, and not sacrificing weight that could otherwise be put into armor. It's just not practical how it is.. it's something a kid would come up with, and of course it wins some fights, but that doesn't mean it couldn't easily be better, it's just because it is a combat robot built by people with experience and know-how.
@@Frosty_tha_Snowman you missed a bit of my point. Early Lockjaw was a spring loaded crusher/flipper; and REALLY fked up a few 'bots back in the day, RotatŔ had decent success in the off season (same with Counter Revolution, who actually beat a version of Tombstone in Robogames) and was known to whip a bot or two with that right hook. And HUGE is not just a cool gimmick, it's a direct engineering counter to the current meta, from weapon height, to construction they eat *most* of the verts alive. You start with a concept, then iron out the details through trial and error; that's just kind of how engineering works? 💁🏿♂️
They just try to have fun with making a new robot, this is clearly not meant to be a contender but it's unique which is cool, I hate how everyone immediately clowns the builders who try something new. If everyone were like you it'd be all verts.
Valkyrie three-crowned triple crown.
A true HEE HEE HEE HAW moment
Love these extra fights every week! Thank yall so much!
so before I see the results I wanna say, the more complex something is, the more that can go wrong, I REALLY like this bot and hope is does well...
I love Valkyrie's Glory blade. Look at what it did to Rotator.
The wife Valorie on the Triple Crown team was so cute when she pressed the button! Lol. No attitude. She is just having fun.
Fight starts: 3:34
Fight ends: 4:16
42 seconds, one of the shortest fights this year. A second shorter than rampage vs retrograde
When the fight starts more than halfway through the video
How short was Huge’s first fight? That felt like 15 seconds.
Edit: official website says 59 seconds. Neat.
@@Niclmaki It felt a lot shorter than 59 seconds
@@Niclmaki yeah it did feel short, first hit did HUGE in, yet it was a while before the were officially stuck there
You clearly haven’t seen one of wrecks’ battles.
It's always fun to watch a bunch of nerds have fun; The announcer, the costumes, the crowd going wild, the punchlines- it's all so over the top 😃
What a gem! Like many of these ‘bots, it’s almost too pretty to fight! I also like the bot called Synchros, another complex machine that is beautifully designed and built.
Maybe if triple crown was box chapped and had that same any direction movement with a blade or hammer it would be great
Imagine robots taking over the humans in the future and robot kids learning about their ancestors as gladiators in their history class
Its complex for sure, but chomp 2 has to be the most complicated bot ever built, and just like chomp 2, triple crown proves, that complex isn't necessarily, better. you have to sacrifice to much in armor and weapon weight to add these super complex systems for them to ever leave you with strong contender. While i can appreciate the work that went into making it work, you sadly can see that it doesn't have a active weapon that is going to do any damage to a more traditionally built 250lb bot, its weapon looked more like that of a 125 lb bot. the weapon is way out of its weight class. The omni directional wheels of shatter do exactly the same thing, and dont sacrifice nearly as much weight, and are not anywhere close to being as exposed. This would have done very well in robot wars where the weapons and armor are not nearly as strong as battlebots.
Hah That's Chomp 3
chomp 1 is the crusher, chomp 2 is the overhead hammer, chomp 3 is the pneumatically powered walker.
a fine example of new experimental untested concepts with high complexity and high hopes against dumber than a brick tried true and tested techniques
Overly complicated bots never last long.
Triple crown should've had horizontal spinners between the wheels on all sides, that were also thick, wide, and tall so that almost skimmed the ground and its own wheels. It would be good defense against an undercutter and land powerful blows. Maybe on the outside of the wheels there could've been wedges just so that the entire outside of the bot would be protected.
Here's one underlying law:
(mostly) the weirder the bot looks, the faster it is knocked out
I honestly think cyborgs fighting in an arena is the future. I'm kind of surprised it hasn't already started.
That was too easy for Valkyrie. And I remember in the intro of the first episode, their fight with Blip was previewed and it did not look good for them. I am very concerned about their chances making the top 32.
You don't want "complex", you want simple and sturdy
a incredibly complicated interesting bot
vs.
valkyrie
gee wonder how this one will go?
Real fight begins from 3:20
And ends very soon after that
"Norsepower" - bruh I live for the announcer's puns.
That big blade cut them down. Got a new subscriber. Was fun to watch. Great video
I'm not sure why this ended up in my recommended section, but it was fun watching the fidget spinner get wrecked in a few seconds.
that movement is so cool and has some awesome potential for Triple Crown, i hope they werent discouraged.
When you put most of your design in movement translation...this is what happens.
4 minutes of hype for 15 seconds of battle. 10 seconds was the count down.
Lol I may love triple crown but they got destroyed!
Triple Crown: Get clear Wedge, you can do any more good back there!"
Wedge: Sorry!
The wheel rubber was weak spot, especially for someone like Valkyrie.
imagine having one of these robots for when someone breaks in your house to sweep their ankles clean LOL
The more complicated something is, the more pieces there are to go wrong.
I wonder if his wife was like, "Well, that was a waste of money, could've redone the bathroom."
The way triple crown moved around was really cool though. Sad they didn’t get more time
Fights like these just show the stark contrast between a battle hardened and fine tuned bot vs a newcomer.
Awesome.
Triple crown is up there with warhead in terms of beauty. The bot just needs some form of shock absorbance on its internals. Im interested in RX's performance next year!
The robot version of a fancy pyjamas kungfu guy who gets in a fight with a seriously tough guy 🤣
If "You doin' too much!" was a robot 😮💨
I think the drive for Triple Crown is really good. The rest of the robot needs more defense and a consolidated offensive option though.
This is what we call an example of "over-engineering," although that "wheel" design from Triple Crown should be adapted for vehicles immediately.
I don’t like the fact that I have one minute left in this video and the fight hasn’t even started 😂
imagine spending 100k and months of planning and prepping only for your bot to perform worse than a hot air balloon in a dogfight.
That orbital hammer has as much energy as a 5lb sledge in full swing.
I think the special ingredient for battlebots is stick to a basic attack mode and be good at it. Bots which overcomplicate their design usually loses in the tourneys.
imagine breaking into this mans house only to be met by a roomba of death goin for your ankles
A B2 Bomber VS a mega-sized fidget spinner.
Valkyrie the hoverboard grinding wheel vs Trinity the buzzsaw office chair with kitty litter scoop!
It's an interesting idea, to have a drive system where you can quickly move in any direction quickly... but taking that idea and turning it into a durable fighting robot is not going to be easy. I think it would be really fun if Triple Crown somehow was able to take the concept and add a more practical weapon loadout. I'd love to see a bot where superior driving would really carry the day.
"Valkyrie vs Fidget Spinner"
I love how the driver talk to the ref about how sophisticated his robot is (even though he lost in under 10 secs)
Perfect example of "too much is the same as not enough"...