The 2023 Bataleon Whatever Snowboard Review
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2022
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Picked up one this afternoon. Looking forward to testing in a few weeks time
My (first) board is a 2015 whatever, love it. I'm a beginner and only have experience with rental boards but this is great for me.
well crafted video you featured a lot of good points about the bataleon board thanks for confirming my choice this season...
My Go To Board!
This or indoor survival and why? Love your honest content 👏🏼
Thanks for the review. I have a 2022 Whatever and I have a Jones Mountain Twin. These boards are fairly similar, but I will discuss the differences I see in them. I'm an intermediate rider. I can do 360s pretty easy with the Whatever. I have to be careful with the serrated edge of the Mountain Twin when I'm doing 360s. When I'm going down steep sections of a run, and it's bumpy, with little patches of ice, the Whatever is going to slide out on the ice almost every time. The Mountain Twin holds on that ice and I never worry about sliding out. The Whatever takes bumps pretty nicely, maybe because of it's soft flex. I have a Jones Solution that launches me in the air on bumps because of its stiffness. The Jones Mountain Twin is fairly similar to the Whatever in bumps. A really big difference in the Whatever vs Mountain Twin is stability. The Mountain Twin always feels stable. You know your turns aren't going to slip out if you're carving. And when you go fast, that's when you really notice the difference. The Whatever gets kind of shaky, and it doesn't go as fast, at least the 2022 base wasn't sintered. The Jones is really stable at high speeds and goes a little faster, I enjoy both of these boards. The Whatever is really playful and easy to ride. The Jones Mountain Twin is a step up from the Whatever, takes just a little more work to ride, but offers more stability that can come in handy if you're pushing your riding out of the playful zone. If you like riding fast, the Jones Mountain Twin is a better board.
@BreauxBobby I have the Mountain Twin and am considering a more playful board as I’m progressing in the park and learning to butter and jib. Would you still recommend the Whatever for that? Or are they too similar? Im curious.
@@jibbajabbaguy I don't really ride the park. The Whatever reminds me of a skateboard. I skated for 15 years. I don't have to think about it under my feet. And it's about the only board that I have that I feel that way on. It turns pretty quickly. It's agile. I would think it would be ideal for park riding because the base would hold up better than a sintered base in park conditions. And the speeds are slower. The Whatever has a lot of control.
Nice write up / comparison, thanks dude!
Have an arbor formula but caught a crazy deal on a whatever but pretty new what should I watch out for.
Midwest snowboarder trying to progress in park- rails, boxes, smaller jumps and presses. Also will take trips out west/up north for more back country and exploring with potential powder. Stuck between Whatever and Fun.Kink… suggestions? 5’6 125lbs I definitely like playful but still want that confidence to send it at times.
Fun.Kink.
@@AngrySnowboarder Best all mountain board you’ve ever ridden?
Looking for my next all mountain board, currently on a 2017 Capita Outerspace Living. Between this and the DOA. Let me know which one you'd recommend, thanks! Not int he park so much, but still want the ability to make some laps if needed.
Whatever since you're not in the park that much.
Hey Avran, love your videos mate keep up the good work! I'm tossing up between the beyond medals version of this board and the Goliath for the upcoming season. It's will be my only board so trying to weigh up the pros and cons of each. The whatever x BM seems like it might be more versatile for pow given the directional shaping and extra inserts, but other than this having a hard time splitting them. Any thoughts / experience? Cheers!
Goliath is a little stiffer as well. Sounds like you want the BM.
@@jimsdrivingschool I actually ended up buying a Burton Custom camber
@@jimsdrivingschool I hope so. Haven't rode it yet but heading to BC for a few weeks in mid Feb. I ultimately wanted all terrain versatility in a twinish shape and a mid flex - was turned off the Whatever because I wanted to feel natural riding switch, and off 3BT more generally as I had read mixed reviews about it (some bad, but also some really positive) and just didn't want to take the risk on a tech I'd never ridden.
The Burton Custom is your meat and potatoes all mountain twin - I figured there's a reason it's been as popular as it has over the last 10+ years.
@@jimsdrivingschool Cheers! Sounds like you're on the right track anyway with these two boards if you like 3BT. Probably can't go wrong eirher way.
Hi avran, thanks for another excellent review. Please can you give me an opinion for a friend of mine, he's a beginner, he's 6ft 6, he's 260 pounds, size 14.5 us boot, the shop has suggested the 159 wide bataleon whatever for him, I feel this is too small? Is it a good board for him? He's looking to do a bit of everything on the mountain. Thank you
He's a beginner I think it'll be fine.
I am buying this board this season, I also want to upgrade to Step On bindings. What model would you recommend for this board? Thanks
The best boot is the one that fits your foot and fits your needs. Going to Step On now limits your choices. Good luck.
Hi Avran your videos are great!! After 4 seasons of renting I decided to buy my first board, in your opinion, is this a good selection? I'm afraid that the 3BT could make me adopt bad habits. Or do you think a "traditional" board helps me to refine my technique?
I honestly think this is above your ability level and the Fun.Kink is probably more of what you need if you did Bataleon.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thank you for your feedback!! And a good option outside of Bataleon? the ampld ticket?
@@fernandoguerra9236 Ticket is very solid.
whats your fav bataleon twin board for advanced powder/resort riding with some jumping and not much features? I was thinking the Goliath but it's rated stiffer and has less 3bt rise@@AngrySnowboarder
I bought the whatever bataleon beyond medals. Do you have some binding options that may go well with this board?
Same ones as this.
Have you tried the beyond medals yet? Interested to see the comparison
Nope.
Hey Avran, I'm between the whatever and the fun kink. Coming off of a beginner board, looking for something to progress on and grow into. Going for something that can do it all, can handle the whole mountain and won't hold me back wherever I take it, which one would you recommend?
Fun.kink.
@@AngrySnowboarder appreciate the fast response.
Hey Angry Snowboarder, can you tell us how different would the ride be on that board if you had the 159w or the 162w ? Bataleon says that their main reference for sizing a board should be based on weight, and if you average 200 lbs, the 154cm seems not ideal.
Can you please elaborate for the knowledge and understanding of the internet community that religiously follow your channel?
Bataleon customer service suggested to be as much in the middle of the weight range of a size.
Thanks!
I would like to know that too. I'd guess that he rides shorter than suggested to better test the limitations of a board, or maybe it's just personal preference.
@@ammakko nope.
My understanding is he rides whatever they can supply for a demo.
Yes, he has his preference.
But, they don't always have the sizes to loan out.
Personal preference and availability.
Had the Beyond Medals this year for the Australian season. Loved it.
Hey mate. I'm in Aus too and looking at the BM for a northen hemisphere trip in Feb. How did you find it / any downsides? Particularly interested in carving / edge hold as I'll ride it a fair bit in Aus too. Cheers!
@@mackenziebuckingham6924 I’m not the best rider out there, but I found it suited me really well. I’m just a bit of a groomer cruiser with a little bit of sidecountry thrown in for good measure. Not the best carving board, but good enough if that makes sense. Typical 3BT, good edge hold as long as it’s not sheet ice.
Thanks, appreciate it
@Arjan Q: whats your stats, and what board size? Looking into getting the BM, but I am heavy. Would apreciate your input M8
Hey my 390 boss bindings lost some screws do u know where I can buy some ?
A hardware store. I'd contact warranty and see if they can hook you up.
What are the main differences or reasons you may like the fun kink over this?
Flex and pop. If you want stiffer and more snap you go with this, more forgiving and not as responsive fun.kink
@@AngrySnowboarder thank you!
Hey Arron I’m new to this what size board should I get I’m 6”2 at 150 pounds
Who the fucks Arron?
I soo want to buy this board, but i live in Vermont, so we get some ice and hard snow. Is this bad in ice conditions?
You’re going to lose some edge bite with that 3bt
What would you say about the whatever versus the Goliath?
Whatever is a little more all mountain freestyle versatile compared to the Goliath. The Goliath requires a bit more attention to how you ride.
how does this compared to their discontinued global warmer?
A lot stiffer.
I love Bataleon boards. That’s all
Awesome reviews!
Any plans to review a DONEK board in the coming future?
Why would I ride shit?
@@AngrySnowboarder oh shit....what am I missing with their boards? Been hearing about them for a few years now. Saw a few at Loveland/Breck last season and the dudes riding them do like em. Sparked my curiosity. Anything specific I should look out for? Why are they shit?
Thanks dude 🤘🏾
You like paying more for less? Buy whatever you want but I refuse to even acknowledge them as a real brand.
@@AngrySnowboarder hey man, that's why I'm asking you. You review boards all day long. Have you ever ridden or examined one? I'm just looking for some solid info and you always have the hella good details on why you like/dislike stuff. That's hard to find and I appreciate it.
2 gallons of epoxy make it dead, sure it's damp, but it's dead and when that epoxy gets heated up as you wax it then blah or you ride it more than 30 days and poof it's starting to decamber more so than other brands, "carbonium" topsheets yay rental board material. How any company can upcharge for a lesser material is beyond me. Crown Plastic Base, unless it's all black that shit is weak as fuck and not on the level of Isosport. 500 plus bucks and they can't even put a structure in their base. The Ride Agenda a beginner board has a better base finish on it. Then you get into their whole belief of you have to have this wide ass plank of a deck to carve and turn, no you don't. Add to that their whack ass sidecuts. Once again not helping anyone turn there guys. They're right up there with Never Summer just another kook ass brand that should fuck off and die.
Did you already ride the new Bataleon whatever beyond medals?
No.
Would you run a whatever or a disaster board for a parke oriented board that can still take down the mountain
Neither because I can choose so many different boards.
In my situation of it being a warranty board for my evil twin I am stuck with choosing a Bataleon board
I just can’t justify another ET with that hideous color pattern
Oh no a boards topsheet hurts my male ego so much I have never heard of stickers, spray paint, or a putting vinyl over the topsheet.
Maybe in the future just answer the question and not be a twat lmfao 😂
Maybe in the future don't be a pussy, clearly your dad failed you.
Between this and K2 Party Platter, which would be better for a all mountain daily driver?
This is a little more versatile.
@@AngrySnowboarder thanks!
Between whatever & fun kink for intermediate rider mainly in groomers?
Fun.kink.
@@AngrySnowboarder and binding rec would be union strata, force or bataleon chaos for groomers? Wanted to go for ride c8 you recommended but quite more expensive
Strata.
How is it in powder?
It's a snowboard, if it fails at riding powder they really screwed up.
@@AngrySnowboarder lmao very true. Appreciate the reply!
How is this compared to the Disaster?
WAY stiffer.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thank you. Much appreciated as always!
What is your favorite Bataleon board?
Fun.kink, Surfer, Camel two.
I went down to the beach and saw kiki, she was all like 'ewhhhh' and i'm like whatever!
Love the reference.
@@lukedudgeon8699 whateva!
Can you let me know how this comapres to the nitro cinema? Thanks!
Cinema is a beginner board, this isn't.
@@AngrySnowboarderThanks for the reply. The resort I'm visiting has only Ride and Nitro boards. I've used tha bataleon whatever and Burton provess fv before and liked them both. Any recommendations of something similar in the Ride or Nitro series?
This is my inner princess talking, this looks so sexy 😂
Whatever...
It’s whatever 🤷♂️
I tried last years whatever and loved it but I still prefer my evil twin.
In what way do you prefer the evil twin?
@@TwinbeeUK it’s a true twin. If you like to ride park it’s killer in the park/jibbing.
@@Crumpled4skin111 The Whatever is a twin functionally at all the contact points. I tried the 157cm Whatever, and found it a bit of a boat, but the 154cm version feels more nimble than the 157, and also less 'jittery' or unstable when carving compared to even the 157cm Evil Twin, possibly due a slightly wider base (or - and I'm speculating here - maybe due to the Whatever's Dual Super Tubes instead of the Evil Twin's Central Super Tube.... or the Whatever's "Shock Walls Sidewall" over the Evil Twin's regular "Solid Walls Sidewall").