She has like a size 2 waist too, freakin a. No wonder so many of these gymnasts suffered with extreme body image issues after they finished their careers
@@myerklamb8529 this, especially before the 2000s, commentators would comment on gymnasts weights all they time, they would also tell the audience the gymnasts weights too. It’s disgusting.
@@myerklamb8529 Honestly, she probably has a 00 size waist really. It would be one thing if for example, someone had been out rehabbing a serious injury for a year and fallen out of shape noticeably, not only by gaining fat, but also by losing muscle and was clearly struggling to do their skills, but the awful comments that used to be freely said and accepted about clearly very physically fit girl's bodies that were in wonderful condition, but maybe not exactly the build and body type of the traditionally ideal gymnast are ridiculous. They used to like to make these comments anytime anyone was not emaciated looked, even when they were incredibly toned and had no identifiable fat anywhere on their bodies.
This reminds me of the 2003 world team finals and Elfie saying something like "I was disappointed when I seen this gymnast mount the podium, I cannot believe Russia put a gymnast with so little talent on their team" 😳 What a mean thing to say!
@@donaldholderdoc2910 It is not about speaking her mind or even cancel culture. Her job was to access the gymnast's performance, not make immature comments about superficial things. Yes weight gain, or height gain, or any body change can effect a gymnast's abilities and performance and if she had made a comment about a gymnast's weight in that context than that would be okay, but just making a ridiculous comment (because calling this young woman 'chunky' is ridiculous) to basically put her down is not, and should not be tolerated or not criticized. I am sick of people claiming that anything offensive being called out or removed or really any moderation is just overly sensitive babies invoking 'cancer culture'. Yes freedom of speech allows people to say insensitive, ignorant, and offensive things, but it also allows people to defend themselves and others against those things. It also, doesn't require that other people support and promote it. I see comments about someone not further sharing something and it being blamed on 'cancel culture'. The push back against cancel culture at it's base is about not wanting anyone to be able to limit your expression, even if it is offensive or dangerous. Forcing people to share things that they don't like, agree with, or think are acceptable to say publicly is really not a lot different.
@@rachelmarie2228 Rachel, I don't approve or agree with cancel culture. I also hate it. I was merely stating the fact that if she'd made those statements whether her right or not, she would have been forced out. I agree she shouldn't have used the terms she did.
Ugh. We can always rely on Monica Phelps to ladle out some hurtful commentary based on body shaming or silly nit-picking rather than doing what every critic is taught: praise first, then what to improve. I also heard a male commentator-- working with Phelps, in fact--praise a gymnast along these lines: "She looks better than ever after that vacation...she's more relaxed, she got a haircut...I think she even got a tan!" I wanted to throw hands!
I agree with you it should be a video on Al, Elfie and the one and only Tim! But how DARE that women say that girl was chunky... She has a f*king perfect body! I'd love to see the commentator put on a tight ass Leo, stand on a 10cm wide piece of wood and then do a backhandspring into a back full. Doubt she could/would etc. What a horrible person
She didn't mean it in a negative way. She said it was good that gymnastics isn't only for prepubescent, slender girls. She was actually skinny shaming. lol
But calling that body type chunky is a bit off. There are so many bulk gymnasts, no shading anybody tho, I like muscular look (like Simone or Shawn). But all gymnasts are so short even being bulk makes them small. 😆 The gymnast in the video was still pretty skinny for a gymnast.
My new favorite quote and not just for gymnastics but life as we know it today with Cell phones EVERYWHERE. "We are not looking at it with the speed of the human eye"😂😭 Give me a minute to put on my cyclops eye and I'll give it another look. 😂
While some of these comments were really rude, many of them were not. Many of these clips were from a time when the public needed to be educated about the sport itself, and some of the commentators were focused on that. Like it or not, it's a commentator's job to report on the good, the bad and the ugly. While I don't care for comments on the gymnasts' looks, to say they are a better tumbler than dancer isn't necessarily a criticism. No one needs to comment on weight, though height changes or growth spurts are fair enough to mention. It is NOT being harsh to say, "This performance was actually better than yesterday's."
I think she was talking about her muscles. Having bulky muscles was pretty rare back then and she even complimented at least diversity in body type later on.
@@DeepSeas.. doesn't make it okay though. having muscle does not make you fat in any sort of way which she needs to learn. having muscle and being "chunky" are two different things.
How about these Tim Daggett favorites: "She can do much better", "She can be better", "She can do better", "She was much better in practice this week", "She knows she can do better". Ugh! He loves tearing these amazing athletes down.
But if they’re men, they can do almost no wrong. “The judges like to see you fight for your landings” was my favorite. As opposed to the girls whose whole routine was a waste if they took a step on their dismount.
The only comment I think was a bit rude was the “chunky” comment. That was uncalled for. And the “watching too many movies” was a bit unnecessary too, although funny. But to be honest, everything else said here seemed perfectly legit to me. I think for the most part people are just being too sensitive. It is the commentators job to point out the errors in the routine. And promoting different body types is actually a good thing.
@@albertitomoon5002 I know but you also have to be realistic. Thinking you can legitimately get 10x better all of a sudden and win the AA, and trying your darn hardest to stick every skill and win the AA, are 2 very different things.
I don't see anything wrong with these comments, to be honest. I'm sure they didn't come from a place of malice or ill intent. I'd choose British commentators over the extremely bland you-know-who ones any day of the week. They were just keeping it real. I see, of course, that we've come a long way from that as a society. Everything now is so PC because, oh, heaven forbid, someone's feelings might get hurt!
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My jaw dropped at "Chunky gymnast."
that’s monica phelps for you 😟
That's exactly what I did. No she didn't say that!
She has like a size 2 waist too, freakin a. No wonder so many of these gymnasts suffered with extreme body image issues after they finished their careers
@@myerklamb8529 this, especially before the 2000s, commentators would comment on gymnasts weights all they time, they would also tell the audience the gymnasts weights too. It’s disgusting.
@@myerklamb8529 Honestly, she probably has a 00 size waist really.
It would be one thing if for example, someone had been out rehabbing a serious injury for a year and fallen out of shape noticeably, not only by gaining fat, but also by losing muscle and was clearly struggling to do their skills, but the awful comments that used to be freely said and accepted about clearly very physically fit girl's bodies that were in wonderful condition, but maybe not exactly the build and body type of the traditionally ideal gymnast are ridiculous.
They used to like to make these comments anytime anyone was not emaciated looked, even when they were incredibly toned and had no identifiable fat anywhere on their bodies.
“Actually that was a little better than yesterday” always gets me
This reminds me of the 2003 world team finals and Elfie saying something like "I was disappointed when I seen this gymnast mount the podium, I cannot believe Russia put a gymnast with so little talent on their team" 😳 What a mean thing to say!
Oh yeah I was waiting for this comment. It was the rudest ever on tv by Elfie haha
Really?! I was surprised how many times she spoke her mind and how long she lasted. On today's Cancel Culture she would have been crucified.
@@donaldholderdoc2910 It is not about speaking her mind or even cancel culture. Her job was to access the gymnast's performance, not make immature comments about superficial things.
Yes weight gain, or height gain, or any body change can effect a gymnast's abilities and performance and if she had made a comment about a gymnast's weight in that context than that would be okay, but just making a ridiculous comment (because calling this young woman 'chunky' is ridiculous) to basically put her down is not, and should not be tolerated or not criticized.
I am sick of people claiming that anything offensive being called out or removed or really any moderation is just overly sensitive babies invoking 'cancer culture'.
Yes freedom of speech allows people to say insensitive, ignorant, and offensive things, but it also allows people to defend themselves and others against those things.
It also, doesn't require that other people support and promote it.
I see comments about someone not further sharing something and it being blamed on 'cancel culture'.
The push back against cancel culture at it's base is about not wanting anyone to be able to limit your expression, even if it is offensive or dangerous. Forcing people to share things that they don't like, agree with, or think are acceptable to say publicly is really not a lot different.
@@rachelmarie2228 Rachel, I don't approve or agree with cancel culture. I also hate it. I was merely stating the fact that if she'd made those statements whether her right or not, she would have been forced out. I agree she shouldn't have used the terms she did.
Yes, and then that girl really sticks a tumbling pass (double pike 1/1 ?) XD
Ok the movies one was funny tho 😂
I can’t stop laughing off that one, her comedic timing was on point…lol
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Ok but the “sentences not phrases” comment was a good one. It was taking about how the code favors series and connections.
yeah but the way she said it was a complete mess 🤦♀️
@@MGYM2008 Hahaha ok I can’t argue with you there! Thanks for making the video-it was thoroughly entertaining
Ugh. We can always rely on Monica Phelps to ladle out some hurtful commentary based on body shaming or silly nit-picking rather than doing what every critic is taught: praise first, then what to improve.
I also heard a male commentator-- working with Phelps, in fact--praise a gymnast along these lines:
"She looks better than ever after that vacation...she's more relaxed, she got a haircut...I think she even got a tan!"
I wanted to throw hands!
I'm surprised this wasn't all Elfie. You could do a whole video just on Elfie.
I agree with you it should be a video on Al, Elfie and the one and only Tim! But how DARE that women say that girl was chunky... She has a f*king perfect body! I'd love to see the commentator put on a tight ass Leo, stand on a 10cm wide piece of wood and then do a backhandspring into a back full. Doubt she could/would etc. What a horrible person
Also, they replaced Al and Elfie BUT WHY IS TIM DAGGOT STILL HERE I want Nastia Liukin and Paul Hamm or ANYYYYYYYBODY BUT TIM j.s.🤷
lmao Bart went off
The movie one was funny but the chunky one was in bad taste
She didn't mean it in a negative way. She said it was good that gymnastics isn't only for prepubescent, slender girls. She was actually skinny shaming. lol
But calling that body type chunky is a bit off. There are so many bulk gymnasts, no shading anybody tho, I like muscular look (like Simone or Shawn). But all gymnasts are so short even being bulk makes them small. 😆 The gymnast in the video was still pretty skinny for a gymnast.
@@demonsalwayswin couldnt have said it better
My new favorite quote and not just for gymnastics but life as we know it today with Cell phones EVERYWHERE. "We are not looking at it with the speed of the human eye"😂😭 Give me a minute to put on my cyclops eye and I'll give it another look. 😂
Haha...”Well perhaps she’s been watching too many”.
Some of the comments are great! I really liked the roast about "watching too many movie." You gotta appreciate good humor.
I think I should be a commentator because I would comment on talent and beauty of the skills and routine, not the gymnasts appearance.
It’s always the British ones
I thought the girl in the thumbnail was bald
Same
Everybody is so sensitive these days, but I'm here for all the shade!! 😎
“Skinny children”
1:20 Bart told no lies 🤷♂️
lol damn right he didn’t 💯
Cant stand Monica Phelps.
Let's "CANCEL" these commentators 🤣. Especially if they said the word "pre-pubescent"
Na, we need more of this. We already have enough woke zombies with no backbones.
@@Rakim8 exactly
Youre a grown ass man looking to cancel people. Get a life.
I'm definitely sick of cancel culture. I don't want to turn into North Korea.
While some of these comments were really rude, many of them were not. Many of these clips were from a time when the public needed to be educated about the sport itself, and some of the commentators were focused on that. Like it or not, it's a commentator's job to report on the good, the bad and the ugly. While I don't care for comments on the gymnasts' looks, to say they are a better tumbler than dancer isn't necessarily a criticism. No one needs to comment on weight, though height changes or growth spurts are fair enough to mention. It is NOT being harsh to say, "This performance was actually better than yesterday's."
Oh look - Ghislaine Maxwell commentates on gymnastics 😬😨
*prepubescent 😱🤬
lol, oh Monica! (eye roll)
She called that girl chunky!
I think she was talking about her muscles. Having bulky muscles was pretty rare back then and she even complimented at least diversity in body type later on.
@@DeepSeas.. doesn't make it okay though. having muscle does not make you fat in any sort of way which she needs to learn. having muscle and being "chunky" are two different things.
One of those commentators appears a lot I think do you know her name
monica phelps
How about these Tim Daggett favorites: "She can do much better", "She can be better", "She can do better", "She was much better in practice this week", "She knows she can do better". Ugh! He loves tearing these amazing athletes down.
But if they’re men, they can do almost no wrong. “The judges like to see you fight for your landings” was my favorite. As opposed to the girls whose whole routine was a waste if they took a step on their dismount.
@@ParisInTheSpringtime999 Right?!
I always hated when the Romanians like Milo and Simona rolled up their sleeves.
Love the comments, surry but not sorry. They were sincere and accurate.
Tbh I see little wrong with many of these comments, especially about the borderline anorexic body types that were prevalent at that time.
The only comment I think was a bit rude was the “chunky” comment. That was uncalled for. And the “watching too many movies” was a bit unnecessary too, although funny. But to be honest, everything else said here seemed perfectly legit to me. I think for the most part people are just being too sensitive. It is the commentators job to point out the errors in the routine. And promoting different body types is actually a good thing.
A chunky gymnast wow
Just say Monica Phelps 😭
0:20 The only instance I liked Elfie throwing shade. Like girl, you really thought you could beat Shawn and Nastia for the AA title? Plzzzzz 💀💀💀
true, but the way she laughed was dirty 💀
The mindset she had was GREAT. Why would she train her whole life so at the end she wouldn't even believe she can achieve her goals?
@@albertitomoon5002 I know but you also have to be realistic. Thinking you can legitimately get 10x better all of a sudden and win the AA, and trying your darn hardest to stick every skill and win the AA, are 2 very different things.
Shawn and Nastia wasn’t her only obstacle lol
It was great possibility Ksenia Smenova was .08 behind Shawn and 1.4 behind Nadia. It was really close
I'm am here for it!
Elfies shade on Ksenia Semenova.....
toxic!
Monica Phelps had a creepy ex snd history unfortunately
Horrible and hilarious at the same time! :D
Monica Phelps was kind of mean. Elfie was always nice!
I don't see anything wrong with these comments, to be honest. I'm sure they didn't come from a place of malice or ill intent. I'd choose British commentators over the extremely bland you-know-who ones any day of the week. They were just keeping it real. I see, of course, that we've come a long way from that as a society. Everything now is so PC because, oh, heaven forbid, someone's feelings might get hurt!
Personally, their commentary is a distraction like someone talking while you're trying to watch a movie.