Before You Spend Money on A Shed…Watch This Video
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2018
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In this video, I build the Heartland Stratford 12 foot by 8 foot shed, purchased from Lowes on sale. This video covers some of the process and challenges I encountered when building a modified floor design with a prefab kit. The other challenges included dealing with poor quality structural lumber that was warped, twisted or bowed. The take away for the manufacturer would be to supply a better framing structure and wall studs made from thick plywood as opposed to 2 X 3s. In the end I made it all work but it didn’t really save me any time versus building from scratch. The kit did come with all the hardware and the OSB boards for the roof. The roofing itself was made up of Ondura corrugated roofing panels.
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I built a shed from scratch using lumber from a local one man saw mill 44 yrs. ago. Still standing and looks as good as the day it was built.
"A little cheaper than pouring a slab". Understatement of the year. Lol
Nice build. For those looking for alternatives, the last shed kit I assembled was from Lifetime Products. They're blow-molded plastic, and the shed was 8'x15'. Came with a plastic floor, which we installed on a raised 2x6 and plywood frame. I was skeptical, but it went together like a dream and came out quite sturdy. It's survived several heavy New England snow storms and is maintenance free - just hose it off once a year. IIRC, it cost $1400 or $1500 delivered on sale. A nice bonus is that you can buy extra kits to extend the ends - so you can size it to any length you need. Neat system and sure beats the old metal shed kits.
One thing I've learned from RUclips: There's more than one way to build a shed.
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Excellent video, I bought a package shed several years ago from Home Hardware. I am not the carpenter type but I gave it a go. Same type of treated panels, and lots of treated lumber. My wife was so impressed I had to build a second one.
Building a shed from scratch can be very rewarding. You did a nice job. There's all sorts of reasons to build a shed.
I built my insulated 7'.9" x 9'.9" shed from scratch using all wood screws and i'm glad I did. Gave it the Red barn look with small windows on both sides. and added white trim. Built an upper loft shelf for storage but it's big enough for a small mattress as well. Even bought a "new looking" used exterior door from a second hand store, built the frame, and added the hinges. It works and looks nice. Added paneling to the inside walls and I added stained tongue & groove to the ceiling, then I put tile on the floor. I set it up with a small "through the wall" air conditioner, Deep cycle solar batteries, solar panels, charge controllers, LED lighting, and a plug in for an alternative Generator setup as well. I added a wall mounted tv with an outdoor antenna. Three DC to AC inverters, plugs to charge lap tops & cell phones, a Futon that makes into a bed, and a small fridge. The next time a hurricane takes out our power for a week or longer like it did last year we intend to sleep in comfort without the South East humidity.
Thank you for the video. You are correct about the bulk lumber being seconds or just about thirds.I built a shed in 2001 out of sawmill scraps from out of the backwoods of Arkansas. It was about the same size as yours. I never painted or preserved it. It is still sturdy but my family members put v-8 engines and transmissions on the floor and the floor has dropped. The sidewalls and roof are still sturdy. Seconds windows still open and close but the wall sole seals were made out of pressure treated lumber and they have deteriorated over time. When I first put it up I used it as a chicken coop. The tax collector asked me who lived in the building. I told him my chickens. He said my chicken coop was built better than a lot of peoples houses in the backwoods! Ha, ha, ha! Take care.
I have been considering building a shed and was most concerned with how to level the floor joists and frame. Your're idea of getting the blocks close and then using a 4x4 to dial in level is excellent, thank you!!!
I wanted it reinforced so I can store heavy items in there, like a full sized generator, lawnmower, trailer hitch kits etc .. If you use a 2X8 Joists, you can probably get away with less. i just couldn't really build it any taller.
Great job. Years ago, I bought a metal garden shed for my son and thought it would be easier than wood. Probably was, but a job that should have taken a full day, took a long weekend. The instructions were very good until the end. It never said to anchor the shed to the wood floor and had no screws to do so. After that experience, when I needed a garden shed, I went to the local Mennonites who built, delivered, and installed a 8x12 shed for half the price of my local big box stores just for the kit.
That sub floor is fantastic. You’ve solved my digging into solid rock problem. Thanks.🇦🇺👍
Thanks for taking the time to do this video... It was very helpful...
Thank you Eric, this was a very well done video. You recap at the end was truly objective. I thank you again
Dang. You made this look easy. Given a year and a lot of help I might get it kinda close to how you did😆
Lowes offers a small building for $899. by the time they get finished with it it was over $3000. I told them to keep.
Good job doing this all by yourself! I’m impressed. And the emotional support from Pup was a nice addition.
Thanks Pamela! My puppy was the job site foreman - LOL :)
Excellent video! Not just the info it contains but the editing as well; you didn’t waste my time with unnecessary babble and you provided complete information. Kudos!
I agree!
I've built many sheds in my time. I appreciate the video. I've always just bought the materials without a deal and just did them as they were requested. I guess you can say, custom. I've always wondered how these kits came. I never bothered looking it up because there was never a need. Now that covid has us locked up, why not look it up! Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.
That was a perfect delivery by you Eric Sorenson - not an ego trip, not showy - honest and to the point. AND it helped me finally decide to avoid kits and make one from scratch - then I can decide where the spend needs to go to make it survive winter northerly gales! Cheers Eric...
Thanks John! Cheers🙂🍺
As a retired contractor, having worked in the field for 40 years I say, Thank You Very Much for you HONEST Video and Opinion which I feel are 100% correct. This is what you get if you buy a package.
If you have some skill and take your time, I would agree, buy everything from a reputable Lumber dealer and you will get far Superior Material
Thanks Bill! The other option folks can go with is to hire someone to frame everything and build the shed. Certainly an easy weekend job for a professional framer who wants to earn a little extra money.
So a lumber dealer would have a kit for a shed ?
Really great job on your video and explaining the problems you encountered. I wish I would have seen this before I built mine. This is exactly what I experienced and I am not a carpenter at all. I really like your deck and ramp!
Thanks Eric for the video. I sell sheds for a major shed manufacture and am always out looking at what others are offering. I too am a do it your self guy and enjoyed watching your video. I actually built my first shed myself many years before I got into the shed business. Now that I'm in the business I see the mistakes I made simply because it was my first shed. My company has built many thousands of sheds thus we have made all the mistakes possible and have learned from those mistakes. Because we never claim to be the cheapest we are always looking for improvements we can make to provide a better product for our customers. With your skills I'm sure you could have built one from scratch which would have been better than that kit. The care you took starting with the foundation layout was impressive which shows you want to do quality work. With those kits that is almost impossible. It's a poor design done with poor quality materials. Thanks again and keep building!!!!!!
Excellent video. I’ve built one shed from scratch. I’ll definitely build the next one from scratch as well. Thanks for the vid, I think it’s cool you sealed all the ends of all the floor framing.
Awesome vid, had to subscribe for the dog alone. His pointing out where you missed a spot....priceless. My cousin asked me to assist with his kit purchase build. I already sent him one video to check before he buys it, and I think I need to send him this one! It's just a bit much if you don't have all the tools.Thanks again!
Nice job! I built a kit shed with my son when he was about 9 years old as a father-son project. My son is now 31. I treasure the photos from that project and I’m still using the shed. I think I need to rebuild the doors sometime soon, but it’s otherwise in good shape. I customized the kit heavily to add a second door and split the interior between a playhouse and a garden shed. It was a great way to introduce my son to basic woodworking and construction techniques but I agree with others here that having done it once from a kit I would buy the lumber and build from scratch if I did it again. Leveling the foundation blocks and building the platform (which was not part of the kit) was the most time-consuming part. Framing the walls is relatively easy in comparison. But it is, I must say, nice to know when they drop the kit off that you have pretty much all you need. No repeat trips to the store for things you forgot. If you take one weekend to put in the foundation and platform you can pretty much put up the kit shed itself in a second (longish) weekend.
Tim Motz Q
if you can keep the wood dry with good Shingles and paint or siding there is no reason it can't last 50+ years.
Yeah, yeah world traveler. Everywhere is better than the U.S. bye!
Wow!
What amazing job! Great workmanship and skill. Thank you!
I really enjoyed this video. You really got this project going nicely, and finished nicely also. 5 stars🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I love your comments at the end. After building my lowes shed years ago, that was my exact comments too!!
Impressive amount of work you put into this. I like how you did the "no slab" procedure.
This was so satisfying to watch 😌
Thank you so much man. I bought the same kind of shed and it's turned out to be a nightmare and I basically have rebuilt the whole thing standing where it's at
I love it ..I think you did a great job. very nice shed and also I love the dog.... thanks😉👍👍🐕
Thanks Eric, for sharing--I especially appreciate your devoting much of the attention on the deck blocks and pressure-treated lumber and how meticulous you were with the leveling. You've convinced me to assemble my own "kit.". The packaged deals are so cheap at HD and Lowe's that it's tempting sometimes.
I would shop around Phong To. The kits aren't all that good. Browse the web for shed plans and price out what it would cost to build from scratch. I bet it will be the same cost as the kit.
Enjoyed it thoroughly, Eric. I was just thinking that I need a building just like that one to clean up some of my clutter. Nice job!!! 👍👍
Cheers Buddy!
I built a shed and used them blue barrels to make it float on 2 20 foot poles, when the Mississippi River comes up the shed floats and lands back were it was before the flood. Got tired of moving stuff all the time.
Smart! Nicely Done :)
BRILLIANT!!
I love it!
I remember seeing one of those "in the future" type programs that mention when humans have reproduced to the point of no where to go we will start building homes like that that float in the ocean and rise and lower depending on the tide. Same idea as your shed. They have predicted entire cities built like this so a shed is a good start in the flood zone lol
So you built a house boat
Eric, what an excellent video. Informative, entertaining, easy to watch, relaxing. You should be very proud of this production. Excellent job, I enjoyed it very much.
@My Garage Woodshop Thank-you my Friend! Cheers🙂🍺
Love the video, you make it look so easy. I have 2 German Shepherds so I am set with the 'furry helpers". Love your pup.
Thanks. This was helpful. I had considered buying a shed kit from Home Depot or Lowes but I think I'll try to build it myself.
Nice video. I'm a commercial carpenter & everything you said is accurate, especially buying ANY shed or other kits from Lowe's. I don't know if you live in an area with annual bad wind storms or tornadoes, but putting in some anchors from the 4x4s into the ground is highly recommended. I've seen lighter weight sheds like this simply get blown over. Gluing the 4x4 base frame pieces to the concrete blocks could have helped add more weight & wind resistance. You can still buy the large screw in anchors at the 4 corners of the shed. Also install vents at the gable ends to prevent extreme heat build up which will ruin paints & many common liquid home repair products like caulk, some solvents, stains, etc. Vents are very important
The part that wasn't on the video was me attaching the hurricane ties from the floor joists to the 4X4s. We get severe wind storms because we live on an island. Thus far, it's as good as the day I finished building it. But yes, people don't always think about buying all the extras needed to keep it safe from wind storms. There is a brief update (from 2020) on the shed in this video: ruclips.net/video/MRVEDq5as0I/видео.html
You are very handy professional simple honest man. THANK YOU
Suggestion:it is always a good practice to stagger joints between adjacent 4x8 sheets and the planks on your front porch.
I came up with a unique solution. This will not work for most people, but maybe someone will be able to take from it.
I live in a trailer court and wanted a 5x8 shed primarily for the mower, snow blower, some garden tools...the basics.
I looked at the resin sheds and the wood kits. Of the two; wood is the winner of course.
Much like this featured unit, the cost is a little north of $1000.00 plus the pad and your time.
I recall for somewhere between 700 and 1000 it would be delivered either built and set or built for you on site..plus the pad cost.
I was working way too many hours at this time and built/delivered was my choice as time (winter coming) was an issue and cost was not.
I ended up purchasing a DooLittle Bullitt enclosed cargo trailer.
Cost was right at $2000.00 (two years ago).
I have the shed I needed AND it is completely portable.
20 minutes to take out the lawn gear and I can haul that couch the buddy needs gone.
You get the point.
Of course the biggest issue with such an arrangement is how/where is it parked.
In my case the trailer court has wide lots with plenty of available parking spots.
Anyway, just thought I'd share a unique possible alternative.
Fiberglass in tar paper. 😉
Good show sir. I am a builder myself. I wear many hats. Framers,plumber,roofer,drywall work,tile work,flooring, uncertified plumber,uncertified electrician, windows and doors,Interior trim,Master Applications Expert. Not much of a landscaper. Looks like we have this in common as well. LOL I like how you built your foundation out to accommodate that small deck. Great idea. I will be using that. Thanks again. ✌🏽
I learned a lot from this video. Very well done and you do awesome work. The shed looks great. Thank you.
Great video! I'm glad I watched this before I purchased this kit. Thank you!
Worked in a sawmill for many years, all of the lumber that wouldn't make grade went into a separate bin to be sold for just what you bought. They nearly give that lumber away, it has always been a joke with me, that you build your own stuff so you know what you are getting in the end. I know some persons don't have the tools or the know how, but for those of us who do, buy your own materials, no kits. for those who don't have the required know how, find a contractor that will do the job right. Great video, thank you.
Thanks Ray! I figured as much. Either that or they left this kit out in the sun for a few weeks. For what you get, the kits aren't worth it. This one came together but it took a lot of fiddling and trips to the lumber yard to replace some of the wall studs.
That lumber looks rough but it’ll stand up well enough over time, for a shed.
Dam u take things to the next level bud ... Great Video!!
I LOVE THE SHED IM THINKING ABOUT USING THIS AS A ADDITION TO MY SHED COMING OFF THE BACK AREA THANKS FOR ALL THE IDEAS IN THE BUILD.
Beautiful! Thank you for sharing your techniques
A classic foundation ,great job. The Force be with you.
I got one about 10 years ago and it is still going strong, Like you said, much of the lumber ( the 2x3s ) are crap and I bought 2x4's for the long front and rear. The factory rep was at the store the day I bought mine and strongly recommend I upgrade the flooring so I got exterior grade treated plywood. Built mine on blocks like you did. I used roofing shingles on mine.
Nice! Good to get some feedback that indicates the shed will actually last a while. Cheers :)
just looking at a few of those sheds at home depot ,now seeing your video i'll just build my own....thanks for making this
This is much better than watching those guys dig and build those mud hut looking pools and houses on RUclips and Facebook
I started with a shed but ended up building a 8x10 mini house for my 15 year old daughter. What started out as a $1500 budget is now a $3200 mini house. Things dads do for their kids I tell ya.
jacques parent
So she has her own place at age 15? Probably a great hide away for her to hussy with the boys.
that's way too much
I did enjoy watching how u build the shed. I like that you elevated the flooring. Since I am no carpenter, I have decided get the shed from Costco. A bit reasonable price. I got some ideas from your video, I hope I can incorporate it while my shed is being built. You are an awesome carpenter. Thank you for sharing.
Nice to see your process and the end result. Looks great. I built a shed last year from scratch following a set of plans. That was a lot of work. It looks good and functions well, but it took more time than I had thought it would. Building the rear wall with the sheathing attached was a smart idea. The shed was going to stand about six inches from my fence when completed. I built the whole shed about 3 feet from the final resting spot so I could put the sheathing on after the wall frame was up. Then I used a handyman jack and pushed the whole shed back into place. I built the shoe on two runners perpendicular to the joists, then used the jack to lift the side and pull the runners out. Building the real wall like you did would have saved that step.
Thanks Matthew Potter :) I assembled the walls with the framing on because that is what the kit called for, however I can't say I would want to do it that way again. It was a little unwieldy when your putting it together yourself. I would have rather built proper frames and put the sheathing on a section at a time.
Really helpful video, especially the commentary and advice at the end. Thank you!
Hey, I wished I had this man’s skills or he was my best friend. He did a pretty damn good job building this thing!
Sweet shed. I wish I had a fraction of your construction skills.
Envious. Both of your abilities and your cool new building.
Thanks for sharing with us.
Working that fast and your not out of breath, amazing. Great looking shed! I was a little disappointed when you pulled out the nail gun, but great shed, and great job!
Great job! You're a best to have done this all by yourself! You made it look easy in the video, but I know it was a lot of hard work! Also, this might sound crazy, but I have to let you know that you're incredibly handsome!
Seems like no matter what kit you buy from the big box stores, you always have extra expenses to fix the problems with the product. Good video.
Some great ideas. Especially the base, nice job. Thank you
Thank you for your honesty. I’ll build one with good lumber and materials if I can find them.
Damn bro! I did enjoy it! Excellent job!
Your helper could have came in earlier to help you. Lol!
Larry
The best thing to do is download a free shed plan which will include a list of all material needed, then go to all your lumber stores and get quotes on it. Best way to save money. Plus some plans allow you to change something on the plan like add/subtract windows, change door styles, then will change the list of materials. All in all, your build looks great. Nothing like using your own hands to build something.
Any suggestions on websites with free plans?
It's just as easy to work it out yourself to your own specific requirements. I had a 6m x 2.5m area to build my shed. Housing regulations say no shed within 1 metre of the house....... each wall is a digital "8" shaped frame.(type "8" into an old calculator to see what I mean) Design it as strong as you can think of and put short diagonals in all corners top and bottom. work out how many beams you need to make it, then work out how many boards. Add a quarter of each amount as something always goes awry as you'll have to swap timber or adapt for whatever reason.
Decide first what shape roof you want.....Mine is having a flat sloping roof so that all my neighbours apples from their tree that used to fall into my garden will hit the roof and roll back and drop over the fence to land back in his garden......I'm sick of going round and picking them up all summer long. So build for a purpose is the point.
Thank you for sharing. You've probably saved me quite a bit of money.
🙏Thanks Kindly Eric,
For the sepmelisty of your honest profesional hints& advices.👌
You did a nice job. You're pretty adept at working solo !
Good job! It's good to see men being able to build things.
And even better when its women building stuff :)
@@MamaMia.... Amen.
I'm sitting here realizing, "Oh wow, I now know how to use all the tools in this video! I can do this!"
Excellent video. Very helpful. Thank you.
Good job bro, as well as great info/hints.👍🏼
Thanks for the information..Your end product came out looking great and I’m sure it will see a lot of use.
Thanks WB Fine Woodworking! Yes, it'll definitely help declutter the shop : )
Great video. Thanks mate
Good honest description of your Lowe's shed kit. Once you build one, you will want to build another.
Good build. Thanks for the honest review!
Puppy was awesome!
Wonderful, and informative, thank you for taking the time to share with us. This will come in handy on next shed project. I wish I had a helpful puppy like yours : )
Cheers Clark G :)
Nice video- clear and to the point., your dog seemed to help project move along!
You make it look so easy!
Would love to hear more about total cost $, to gain perspective.
A shed a lot more cheaper than a house. If I could ever afford a plot of land I'd buy a nice shed, have electricity supplied to it for the running of appliance, use the restrooms of local gas stations, mcdonald's, etc, take my showers in a gym or public showers. Id have a house paid off in six months!
Nice job. some good hints and reminders on leveling. your right 80% prep on floor and the rest will come together..
Some goods tips
I liked the poly lay out before flooring was installed
Really enjoyed the time lapse and your tenacity when we got to witness it. Appreciate the summary at the end, does help greatly. Husband goes bonkers when he is served banana curved lumber. I have seen him sift through an entire stack and only come out with one usable board. Then off to the other location. And the adorable helper at the end...going in for an automatic hug? We've got one of those huggers too. "Resistance is futile hooman, you are going to hug me". : )
Thanks B. Walker :) I can definitely relate to the hunt for good lumber! And yes, the pup loves to help out at every opportunity.
Nice German Shepherd puppy you have there. 🐕
Thanks for the insight!
Built it from scratch I did I got a much bigger shed 12x 15 lower cost same work. More storage room and a sense of pride good luck 👍
Good job... thank you !!!
Great job on your shed, looks nice and should serve you for a long time ! I would wager a bet that you could build it better and cheaper from scratch. The time you spent fusing w/ poor quality lumber had to be frustrating to say the least : )
DAM!! GIFTED MENTALITY AND HAND'S!!!....THANK YOU!!!!!
Nice shed! I really need one like that! Great job! Beautiful dog!
Great job! I plan to build a shed like yours and this video showed me the correct way to use the concrete footing blocks to build a good structure. Thank you.
Jack Lucas I built one like this too, but I didn’t want my shed so high off the ground, so I dug holes deeper so the concrete deck blocks would be buried 75%. I also just used treated 2x4s in the concrete block channels & reinforced with cross blocks. Topped it with 3/4 decking. It’ll save you having to build a steep ramp.
Nice work
I found the same issues. I bought one from sears. I saw the quality of lumber and bought regular 2X4's for all the walls and around the door. Only good thing it was all figured out and came with good instructions.
I bought the same one from Lowes, my back yard and patio looks exactly like yours, I like that metal Gazebo type thing you got there! i did had a guy from Lowes put it together.
6:00 the Allergic reaction is fiberglass slivers.
I learned from this same experience to wear LONG SLEEVES AND JEANS while working with fiberglas, tar paper, and similar materials
I bought my shed from a local outfit that builds them. It is 10x12 with 8 foot walls and framed correctly. A real roll up door and shingled roof. Delivered it was $2700. Overall it is MUCH better built than what you ended up with and after watching your video I am so glad I didn't get one of those kits. It is good to see you made it work and improved it though.
If you live in an area where someone offers a warehouse build-and-ship shed service, that is the best way to go! Sounds like you got a great price too :)
It was our local lumber yard that built it. Nothing overly fancy except the nice roll up door. But it was built with good studs and framed correctly. Same siding you have. I plan to customize it into a gardening shed. With your skills, you could have easily built it.
My skills are from learning to build cabinets etc. Never built anything big. I didn't want to learn how to build roof trusses. Currently I am adding outside walls to kit shed with some insulation and hooks to hang things like ladders.
Great work Eric....looking to do the build a shed for my daughter in the next few days ,thank you 👌
Fantastic! Have fun🙂
I’m new at this and I am going to put the advice in practice. Thanks