This is one of my favorite Meshuggah albums, and this song in particular is a beast. I think the fact that this album was a live recording for the most part gives it a special something.
I think it was live in that they recorded drums, bass and rhythym guitar simultaneously. Then parts of songs were taken from different takes, so they're not a single take all the way through. Additional guitars and vocals were done separately. Edit: Haake does lead with his right foot.
It is possible that it was done in one take, recorded the drums and DIs live (maybe some amps) then reamped a lot of stuff, and then recorded the extra instrument tracks, because they obviously can't record quad tracked guitars in one take.
The way I understood it from an interview with Haake is that they played the songs through in their entirety a few times and then picked best takes for each part. I'm not sure if there's any song that's just one single take all the way through, I'd have to find the interview to see if he mentioned anything about that. But you can see in the drum playthroughs as well that there are some parts that are not from the take that's on the video. They seem to have pretty much reamped everything, even some of the drums.
I'm gonna have to buy that RE20, sounds like it makes the drummer hit waaay more consistently and a lot harder. Also, it mutes all the bleed from the rest of the instruments....like a sample :DDD
Though I appreciate the joke, please don't misuse the term "triplet" and spread misinformation. For it to be a proper triplet, all three notes have to have exactly the same length/note value and be performed over the space of two notes - so a 16th note triplet is three equally long notes being played over the space of two regular 16th notes (which has the same length/note value as an 8th note). This is not at all the case with Bleed, and not in the signature galloping rhythms used by Iron Maiden (regular gallop) and Slayer (reversed gallop) either. None of those are triplets.
Alternate Lyrics: DiverCity by AltShuggah This is where tribe is relinquished Ancestry sacrificed The idolatry of migrants compulsory Welcome all, to DiverCity, where an army blends all mankind A weak solution, in DiverCity Bow to it, it owns our strain.
they're playing an inverted power chord on the second fret which makes the chord sound 5 whole steps lower which would be a power chord in double drop C in this case (5 steps below F)
I think the only reason that it's "not typical" for Metal bands to track live these days is because of a huge shift in how it's produced in the recording process compared to a couple of decades ago. It's more of a modern mentality than special thing that only the best of the best can do. Any band that can play half-decently can record live - provided they can get the recording space.
Well of course. This particular material is played by a particular band that's been playing this particular thing for decades, and it's impressive as hell. I just meant Metal bands in general, because at the start of the video it kind of felt like he was implying that live recording in general is out of reach of Metal bands unless they're top-tier bands that have been going at it for 20+ years.
Every time I try to listen to meshuggah feel boredom, unless I listen to the album destroy erase something, or put 1.5x faster. same riff for 1min then change riff for 1min then change to first one for 1min...slowly.... I wish I could enjoy it. They did have a big impact, did something original, recognizable, and interesting. I would definitely enjoy it if they just had some variety in their songs, with a faster tempo
Meshuggah are all about cycling guitar riffs over a 4/4 base. They are a band dedicated to rhythmic complexity. You really have to listen to how the guitar riffs morph over 4/4. It’s not for everyone, but to people that like them, it’s almost trance like.
@Philip Arbon You literally just said that they do repeat stuff over and over. There are subtle changes, but it's a song. Subtle isn't the play to make it interesting. They are a pretty intricate band, but that's only apparent and impressive when you see it and understand it. But listening to it, it's a lot of the same thing over and over. "I" is riddled with the same god damn thing for a loooooooooooong time.
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real drums...on a metal recording...it sounds so beautiful
Because it's a live recording, there's more Bleed than usual.
Only agony remains
Heh, heh.
Thanks einstein
eurologic Wooosh
CUE THE HERTAS
Can anyone who has this make an instrumental version of this track? The world NEEDS Meshuggah instrumentals!
Didn't knew Bob's Burgers knew so much about production. This is extremely interesting!
I'm so happy right now
14:40 aaaand that's MEshuggah. Role credits
3:25 I'm only using laptop speakers but it sounds like it would've been on Chaosphere.
Its from their new album
@@OHBJJ9634 I meant how the raw production sounds similar to Chaosphere's production lol
This is one of my favorite Meshuggah albums, and this song in particular is a beast. I think the fact that this album was a live recording for the most part gives it a special something.
I think it was live in that they recorded drums, bass and rhythym guitar simultaneously. Then parts of songs were taken from different takes, so they're not a single take all the way through. Additional guitars and vocals were done separately.
Edit: Haake does lead with his right foot.
It is possible that it was done in one take, recorded the drums and DIs live (maybe some amps) then reamped a lot of stuff, and then recorded the extra instrument tracks, because they obviously can't record quad tracked guitars in one take.
The way I understood it from an interview with Haake is that they played the songs through in their entirety a few times and then picked best takes for each part. I'm not sure if there's any song that's just one single take all the way through, I'd have to find the interview to see if he mentioned anything about that. But you can see in the drum playthroughs as well that there are some parts that are not from the take that's on the video. They seem to have pretty much reamped everything, even some of the drums.
I'm gonna have to buy that RE20, sounds like it makes the drummer hit waaay more consistently and a lot harder. Also, it mutes all the bleed from the rest of the instruments....like a sample :DDD
Torpdirect on the guitars is a Twonotes Torpedo. I think they use those live as their cab IRs
11:55 BASPIK could be for bass pick sound ie. articulation.
JENS 🤘🏽
I doubt we'll get any raw tracks from Tool. Would be nice to study Rosetta Stoned. Just saying.
Tool don't even release lyrics for their songs, it's near impossible to see them doing something like Nail the Mix.
You can't find analysis of Rosetta all over the Internet. Even here on RUclips, couple of pro drummers have analysed it.
I think lateralus album is more interesting from a production perspective
@@skippityblippity8656 Rosetta is from 10000 Days.
those who have these multitracks can tell me what is the peak level of the DI guitar tracks in this project?
Live room sound is insane with those drums! kicks are shoving that bass the fuck away. Siick low mids and faaaat toms
Wonderful observations, my friend.
I literally had just finished listening to Aztec Two-Step when I saw this on my recommended.
Aztec Two Step is wild
This is gold!
So cool💀
20:18 reminds me of Steve Reich's Electric Counterpoint :D love these guys
according to the Destry Erase Improve Album, they are influenced by Reich :)
@@terriblecertainity that's so cool, didn't know! And yeah it makes sense
@@alvaro.makes.music1 in the Cds booklet, they state their influences at that time...super interesting!
Torpdirect I believe are amped di's for cab impulses. Assuming from the Twonote torpedo. Not sure, not a member just a drummer.
Mixing Meshuggah "Need to gate the toms, this is a live recording, more BLEED than usual". *Cue the triplet patterns*
Ba dum tiss!
Though I appreciate the joke, please don't misuse the term "triplet" and spread misinformation. For it to be a proper triplet, all three notes have to have exactly the same length/note value and be performed over the space of two notes - so a 16th note triplet is three equally long notes being played over the space of two regular 16th notes (which has the same length/note value as an 8th note). This is not at all the case with Bleed, and not in the signature galloping rhythms used by Iron Maiden (regular gallop) and Slayer (reversed gallop) either. None of those are triplets.
Phonetically sounding out the pattern with text didn't have the same impact so I cheated and called it something simple to get the point across.
Mr. Gul - thank you. I aaaaalways hear people calling gallops triplets and it hurts my soul
thecameronator those ''gallops'' are called ''hertas''.
Scary session
Alternate Lyrics:
DiverCity by AltShuggah
This is where tribe is relinquished
Ancestry sacrificed
The idolatry of migrants compulsory
Welcome all, to DiverCity,
where an army blends all mankind
A weak solution, in DiverCity
Bow to it, it owns our strain.
I love these videos man! Any chance at After the Burial? Veil of Maya?
After reading the description if you say Born of Osiris, just make sure its from The Discovery :)
No current plans but certainly wouldn’t surprise me if we have BoO on one of these days!
14:32 how to get that sound?
they're playing an inverted power chord on the second fret which makes the chord sound 5 whole steps lower which would be a power chord in double drop C in this case (5 steps below F)
Do In Flames pls
Why tho? Especially if we're talking about the new IF. It'd be pretty boring.
So I see 10 clips dedicated to kick!? Thor Almighty!
And still it sounds bad :D
@@molochz Nah, the kick drum on the original Nothing sounds much punchier and snappier. On Violent Sleep it sounds like it is under a blanket.
@@molochz It doesn't matter if you process a kick through 101 mongolian throat singers' bathubs, if it still sounds weak and muffled in the end.
@@molochz agreed. the kicks are pretty bad. ppl need to understand that Meshuggah aren’t above mistakes
Do Amon amarth pls
kick panned left in 9:43 or is it bleed? not making the meshuggah joke im sure many other people have made already lol
Kick reflection. No kick mic could sound as phased as that
What ENGL amp was used?
Torp stands for Two Notes Torpedo, right ?
Correct
Would be cool to see:
Born of Osiris
Slipknot
Beartooth
After the Burial
More periphery
Metallica
2:19 there's more bleed than usual XD
Nathan Lyrakis i love you
@@blvckdxvth me too
How much to re-mix this whole album without vocals and send it to me?
Sign up at the link in the description and do it yourself for $0 :)
I think the only reason that it's "not typical" for Metal bands to track live these days is because of a huge shift in how it's produced in the recording process compared to a couple of decades ago. It's more of a modern mentality than special thing that only the best of the best can do. Any band that can play half-decently can record live - provided they can get the recording space.
Well of course. This particular material is played by a particular band that's been playing this particular thing for decades, and it's impressive as hell. I just meant Metal bands in general, because at the start of the video it kind of felt like he was implying that live recording in general is out of reach of Metal bands unless they're top-tier bands that have been going at it for 20+ years.
There is more BLEED than usual.
Not to knock Meshuggah, but they do tend to drag on a reallllllly long time on each riff.
Every time I try to listen to meshuggah feel boredom, unless I listen to the album destroy erase something, or put 1.5x faster. same riff for 1min then change riff for 1min then change to first one for 1min...slowly.... I wish I could enjoy it. They did have a big impact, did something original, recognizable, and interesting. I would definitely enjoy it if they just had some variety in their songs, with a faster tempo
Meshuggah are all about cycling guitar riffs over a 4/4 base. They are a band dedicated to rhythmic complexity. You really have to listen to how the guitar riffs morph over 4/4. It’s not for everyone, but to people that like them, it’s almost trance like.
you just don't understand
@Philip Arbon You literally just said that they do repeat stuff over and over. There are subtle changes, but it's a song. Subtle isn't the play to make it interesting. They are a pretty intricate band, but that's only apparent and impressive when you see it and understand it. But listening to it, it's a lot of the same thing over and over. "I" is riddled with the same god damn thing for a loooooooooooong time.
Rayan Rhythm Oh, but I do.