I gotta be honest. I fucking love the sound of the raw tracks on this. More than even the actual album mix. You can feel the energy of the performance so much more.
Double track drums? I always Quadruple track drums and I cut the bass at 190000000hz. Only Bats Dolphins and the next generation of nuclear Subs can hear my tunes.
Never thought I'd actually get to see this stuff. If you told 23 year old me that this would be out there (for FREE, at that) some day, I wouldn't have believed you. Friggin awesome!!
Ectoplasmic36 I know, right?! The problem is that here in Greece most of the people I work with think that synths are only capable of sounding like 80's power metal and nothing else (and sadly, this isn't the only dumb elitist thing they believe). I guess we have a lot of learning to do.
just stumbled on this channel and didn't realize this video was uploaded today hahahahaha. Crazy just how intricate and professionally detailed LoG's sound is. Awesome band, song, mix, everything. Kudos.
They released tracks for each instrument for Sacrament and Wrath I know a lot of people, myself included studied those to see how to get their sounds and tones, and also the tracks themselves are just so well produced and written it's a joy in of itself.
Chris Adler is the sweet beast! His mastery on drums is phenomenal! As you said, they are master arrangers, those tiny little layers added great timbre to the entire song making it full I believe!
Actually can't really believe I'm seeing these stems. Discovering little bits in songs you've heard at every metal show and club night for over 10 years and it's like "what the fuck are those strings?!" Now I'll never not hear them!!
URM knocked it outta the park this time- and getting a glimpse into Machines' production is, just unspeakable. On all fronts drums, guitars, and everything. NOTHING left to happenstance... Cant thank you enough!!!!
I always heard the double kick parts very slightly panned L and R - with the single kick stuff dead centre. Cool to see that is very likely the case with this mix arrangement.
The way the drums are built/arranged is only to serve the brutal groove and sheer forward drive of LoG, which is one of the major pivotal points in their music besides the Drop-D/C technicality in the guitar work and the awesomeness that is Randy´s vocals . Without the one (monstergroove drums) the other (high-tech guitarworks & monsterrrrr vocals) just will not work . Then add the tightness of the bassist … et voilá : broken neck syndrome.exe has been fully loaded :) Lamb of Genius detected ^^
I like this unboxing videos. Would be cool to have The Black Dahlia Murder, Cannibal Corpse, Amon Amarth, At the Gates , Hypocrisy, The Haunted on URM nail the mix.
I was one of those kids who used to think that drums were the easy instrument. I can't even pretend to coordinate my feet to hit imaginary kick drubs, single or double, with my hands.
I absolutely love Chris's snare sound! It's amazing to me as somewhat of a noobster in home recording that I don't need a shit ton of gain to make my guitars sound heavy and saturated. And I'm 99.7% sure Willie and Mark are playing Mk IV. The Mesa Tone at its best! Awesome, awesome video! Thanks so much for this!
As you said you don't need a super high gain over saturated guitar sound to sound massive you just need to layer them properly. I myself always record it stereo don't ever just copy and paste the signal it will fill the speakers out nicely. If you copy and paste your signal it will still be dead in the middle sound wise. Record every track manually, record it twice, and pan the signals 80 percent left and right that's how I do it your sound will be massive and will fill your speakers out nicely. Any questions feel free to ask man iv done audio production as a fun hobby for 15+ years I could probably write you a damn book on how to record, edit, and mix. I'm not college educated iv just spent pretty much everyday for 16 years recording myself as well as other people/bands.
The internet is full of "Adler doesn't use trigger" No he does not, but his producer does ! (with does not makes him a bad drummer cause, drum reinforcement has nothing to deal with how good the drummer is, IT'S ONLY ABOUT THE SOUND !! )
Most of them think that drummers would not be that good without them. They think this, because they never try it! The day they will try a properly set trigger will maybe change they mind
You beautiful creature thank you for uploading this you helped me add so much dimension to my tracks just so much simple shit that i didn't consoder before. This is a game changer and my firstborn is yours.
funny you mention about blast beats because afaik Chris played them in Wrath and VII: Sturm und Drang... albeit sparingly, for effects (like you have said)
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im confused with the main kick vs double kick thing. if these are dry stems and not processed, then why would they sound any different. unless chris tracked all of the single bass drum bits separately and mic positions were changed, it wouldn't. i can't hear the difference. is it not just that they've edited the single bass drum parts to be on their own track i.e they were still recorded at the same time as the double kick parts?
So basically there are two drum performances, one with muted shells and one with muted cymbals ? I've read that Ghost did this on their last two albums.
LoG is a great band and all but when I listen to the soloed drums it kinda sounds like playing a demo midi file through a ezdrummer metal kit. Probably because Toontrack kinda sorta went for that sound with their metal kits. Everything looks and sounds quantized, are these programmed drums? That bass also sounds fake AF.
No, all I have is some poorly written scat fan fiction. Not seen any of your videos before but I watched the entire thing, really interesting inside look.
Yeah I hate to say it, love Campbell, but those tails at least definitely sound like they're copied and pasted. You can hear it especially when the groovier part comes along. The lead guitars also sounded like they just took the beginning of the ending lead part and just ctl-c/ ctl-v'd that to the middle
Indeed. Those Files are good to learn though, cause when you fuck it up, you cant blame the band or cheap gear or whatever. Its a Good thing to send good tracks to the mixing engineer. If you have have to mix raw tracks, you have to gate/Edit the drums, then you have to Trigger. That cost you at least 2 days for a 10 song record. 2 days of listening to raw tracks while editing cost you fresh hearing before you actually Start " mixing".
I used to over dub my drums when I recorded on my tascam 8 track ..yes it was a very painful all be it fun but very painful experience everytime...your a smart man...however each time I was better for doing so. For me good comes from those fiery trials in recording.
Man you can clearly hear that the drums and the bass are programmed. Even if there was a machine the plays a physical bass guitar it wouldn't sound that robotic. And there are room mics to the snare which lead me to think that this is as well a drum vst. So Eyal you are basically saying that this is the way it should be done!!!
So wait let me see if i understand this i know im late as hell with this question but the typewriter track is used for support when the main track lacks velocity? If thats the case then how does the typewriter track remain so subtle until its needed?
I understand the ranting. Little known drummer Shawn Eldridge has always been top notch drumming for me. Every project I engineered has been awsome with him. Just sayin.
Stop what? The tracks are literally exactly what was used on the album. If you don’t like the fact that they had some compression and EQ on the way in, I don’t know what to tell you... we just give you the tracks that were used on the album. We do not touch them in any way before releasing them to our members.
URM Academy What im saying is, in several of these releases when the engineer sends you these, they’re already post fader, post eq and compression. I say this because you can basically bring everything up to unity and it’s done. Kids that pay for this service aren’t going to learn much of anything by that, thankfully not every release is like that. Also my apologies for being hostile, was drinking and staring at my own pro tools screen wishing the particular session came as nice and “done” as this one lol
What's the best part of this session??
URM Academy the guitar and drum tracks!!
Eyal's rant lol
That mother f#cking typewriter. Incredible.
Everything
URM Academy the error message scare , always gets my heart rate going when that happens during a session. Now that's living
the level of fanboi in this, is way too wholesome. i’m used to him sounding cynical... or laughing at the vocals lol
That one time when Eyal was genuinely excited about something.... mark this one in the record books because it won't happen again this century!
He was also fanboying pretty hard when he did the Opeth unboxing.
He got pretty excited over the meshuggah tracks a little while back.
@@BirdNoise77 and the Gojira one.
@@URMAcademy Until he did Archspire?
Man those high notes on the bass sound like midi!
Cuz it was cut and pasted.
Sounds kinda bad tbh. 😬
Yeah sounds fake
@@mdrumt but its not so it sounds fucking sick!
Why did Machine sample the St. Anger snare tone?
You know something is wild ( in a good way ) when something sounds fake but you’re getting confirmation that it’s real.
Bro... I love this song
I gotta be honest. I fucking love the sound of the raw tracks on this. More than even the actual album mix. You can feel the energy of the performance so much more.
Double track drums? I always Quadruple track drums and I cut the bass at 190000000hz. Only Bats Dolphins and the next generation of nuclear Subs can hear my tunes.
And whales
URM Academy Only Flying Whales.
I'm going to delete the internet from my computer now. Au revoir.
Lars is that you? Leave my bass alone Lars, go away you fiend!
Never thought I'd actually get to see this stuff. If you told 23 year old me that this would be out there (for FREE, at that) some day, I wouldn't have believed you. Friggin awesome!!
Right?! We’re so spoiled these days.
rmp5s it is out for free, the whole sacrament album in mp3
I knew I heard a synth in there!
My band said I was full of shit, but here we are.
Synth is all over LOG stuff, very subtly and effectively used.
Ectoplasmic36
I know, right?! The problem is that here in Greece most of the people I work with think that synths are only capable of sounding like 80's power metal and nothing else (and sadly, this isn't the only dumb elitist thing they believe). I guess we have a lot of learning to do.
sorry didnt watch the full video, on what part actually?
sadistus meletus
The strings. They play high d stabs in the intro and rising stabs during the first part of the bridge.
They where in the producer edition they put out with the album in 2007 as well. It's in a lot of tracks on that album.
That rant about drum dubbing was pure gold :D - but man, those raw tracks sound better than my finished mixes ^^
Love these unboxing videos. Thanks Eyal.
i love that in the low tuned snare infested sea of metal, Chris Adler went with 12 inch and tune it high instead.
It's amazing how fast 30 minutes goes by while watching these unboxing videos! Great stuff!
just stumbled on this channel and didn't realize this video was uploaded today hahahahaha. Crazy just how intricate and professionally detailed LoG's sound is. Awesome band, song, mix, everything. Kudos.
Thanks for watching!
Love it when the kick samples are borrowed from something that actually produces clicking sounds
also, dual guitar tracking i can perform, but drum overdubs? man, i'll just chicken out
Damn. I always knew that the drums went *dun dun* and not *du du dum*
Thanks for this!
They released tracks for each instrument for Sacrament and Wrath I know a lot of people, myself included studied those to see how to get their sounds and tones, and also the tracks themselves are just so well produced and written it's a joy in of itself.
Im speechless hearing those drums. Mega tight
That string part has always drove me nuts. It's on the entire album.
Yeah I hate it.
Ive always wanted to hear Jay Weinbergs drums only, on .5 the gray chapter🙌
I love Machine. Saw the Lamb of God dvd's, the guy is a genius.
When H3H3 reviews a mix.
Chris Adler is the sweet beast! His mastery on drums is phenomenal! As you said, they are master arrangers, those tiny little layers added great timbre to the entire song making it full I believe!
Actually can't really believe I'm seeing these stems. Discovering little bits in songs you've heard at every metal show and club night for over 10 years and it's like "what the fuck are those strings?!" Now I'll never not hear them!!
So many little details, right??
WE NEED DRUMS THIS DYNAMICAL IN THE RELEASED MASTER. THAT FUCKING LOUDNESS WAR HAS TO END.
URM knocked it outta the park this time- and getting a glimpse into Machines' production is, just unspeakable. On all fronts drums, guitars, and everything. NOTHING left to happenstance... Cant thank you enough!!!!
Thanks for watching man!
I always heard the double kick parts very slightly panned L and R - with the single kick stuff dead centre. Cool to see that is very likely the case with this mix arrangement.
OMFG THE BASS IS NUTS!!!. sounds fake its so insane
It’s unbelievable
The way the drums are built/arranged is only to serve the brutal groove and sheer forward drive of LoG, which is one of the major pivotal points in their music besides the Drop-D/C technicality in the guitar work and the awesomeness that is Randy´s vocals . Without the one (monstergroove drums) the other (high-tech guitarworks & monsterrrrr vocals) just will not work . Then add the tightness of the bassist … et voilá : broken neck syndrome.exe has been fully loaded :)
Lamb of Genius detected ^^
I like this unboxing videos.
Would be cool to have The Black Dahlia Murder, Cannibal Corpse, Amon Amarth, At the Gates , Hypocrisy, The Haunted on URM nail the mix.
Agreed! We’ll do our best to make them all happen! :)
Cannibal Corpse would make me way too happy ahah band that got me into death metal way back
I would kill for a black dahlia unboxing
I was one of those kids who used to think that drums were the easy instrument. I can't even pretend to coordinate my feet to hit imaginary kick drubs, single or double, with my hands.
Facts!
brucenatelee I respect drummers
Definitely not as easy as it sounds
Dude's fan girling so hard he makes fun of us watching it. GG dude.
And btw that bass is 100% edited and probably even fake.
So can we download it for covers?
Magnificent, beyond words.
Damn, those raw-tracks
man that was fun to watch ❤️ I totally share your passion. Trying to learn that song in like forever... it is just ridiculous how tight they play it 😄
sounds absolutely sick! so fucking tight
dudee that bass tone was impressive as everything else so good!
i wonder if they programmed the bass as well
My fav lamb of god song is the faded line, if u haven’t heard it listen to it
This reminds me of their “producer edition” of Sacrament that came out back in the day. Cool stuff!
Yeah! But even more raw :)
I absolutely love Chris's snare sound! It's amazing to me as somewhat of a noobster in home recording that I don't need a shit ton of gain to make my guitars sound heavy and saturated. And I'm 99.7% sure Willie and Mark are playing Mk IV. The Mesa Tone at its best! Awesome, awesome video! Thanks so much for this!
As you said you don't need a super high gain over saturated guitar sound to sound massive you just need to layer them properly. I myself always record it stereo don't ever just copy and paste the signal it will fill the speakers out nicely. If you copy and paste your signal it will still be dead in the middle sound wise. Record every track manually, record it twice, and pan the signals 80 percent left and right that's how I do it your sound will be massive and will fill your speakers out nicely.
Any questions feel free to ask man iv done audio production as a fun hobby for 15+ years I could probably write you a damn book on how to record, edit, and mix. I'm not college educated iv just spent pretty much everyday for 16 years recording myself as well as other people/bands.
The internet is full of "Adler doesn't use trigger" No he does not, but his producer does ! (with does not makes him a bad drummer cause, drum reinforcement has nothing to deal with how good the drummer is, IT'S ONLY ABOUT THE SOUND !! )
Exactly. It’s such a dumb and pointless thing to get worked up about.... if it sounds good then literally nothing else matters!
I will never, ever understand why people are so against triggers. Music literally has no rules. If it sounds good, it is good!
Most of them think that drummers would not be that good without them. They think this, because they never try it! The day they will try a properly set trigger will maybe change they mind
Art Cruz triggers and nobody is losing their minds..
This was awesome !
What did it sound like, Eyal?
- SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING BAND!
Damn, I think I've never heard Eyal that excited :D
You beautiful creature thank you for uploading this you helped me add so much dimension to my tracks just so much simple shit that i didn't consoder before. This is a game changer and my firstborn is yours.
for anyone who came for the guitars, they start at 18:59
funny you mention about blast beats because afaik Chris played them in Wrath and VII: Sturm und Drang... albeit sparingly, for effects (like you have said)
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im confused with the main kick vs double kick thing. if these are dry stems and not processed, then why would they sound any different. unless chris tracked all of the single bass drum bits separately and mic positions were changed, it wouldn't. i can't hear the difference. is it not just that they've edited the single bass drum parts to be on their own track i.e they were still recorded at the same time as the double kick parts?
Please oh please do an episode with any Song from any Album they did with Josh Wilbur. Those sounded incredible!
They use Mesa Royal Atlantic RA-100 Heads and Rectifier cabs. One scoops mids, one is more mid present.
I think the things that surprised me the most was the addition of those midis. haven't really seen that before.
Can someone tell me how all the tracks are so clean from bleeding?
The Machine.... (Legend)
They are over dubbed.
ok thanks guys
You don’t sound excited. You sound bored hahaha I didn’t feel excitement to be honest
BUT HELL YES IM EXCITED!!!
That's kinda how Eyal sounds all the time though.
It helps when you have ggd invasion with adlers snare. And the machines stl tone hub presets for the guitar and bass
Some say overproduced... I say an absolute sonic fucking MASTERPIECE
best metal drummer................
One of my favs, but I still think Thomas Hakke of Meshuggah is better.
I prefer Mario Duplantier but Chris is a beast
Thomas Haake is The Godfather of metal drumming
DavieDrum98 no he's not, try Branden Morgan from misery signals.
Excuse me? Let me say it again... Thomas Haake IS the GODFATHER OF DRUMMING. Thank you very much.
So basically there are two drum performances, one with muted shells and one with muted cymbals ? I've read that Ghost did this on their last two albums.
Dave Grohl did the same on the third Queens of the Stone Age album.
FSBass there's a foo fighters song where Taylor plays the shells and Dave plays the cymbals in another room
Seems that there are actually three performances:
Kicks, snares/toms and cymbals.
awesome man thx for sharing..
woooooh calm down Eyal
Don't tell me what to do
LoG is a great band and all but when I listen to the soloed drums it kinda sounds like playing a demo midi file through a ezdrummer metal kit. Probably because Toontrack kinda sorta went for that sound with their metal kits. Everything looks and sounds quantized, are these programmed drums? That bass also sounds fake AF.
Robert G. Hmmm go see them live.
I know that they are great players, but why go for the fake quantized sound then? Because that's for crappy laptop-core bands.
A lot of double bass runs aren't completely on the grid, and a lot of toms aren't either.
It is a 2006 record man, these things were cool back then
Tones that sound good in a mix don't always sound good solo'd. Any amateur sound engineer knows this. It's all about how it sounds in the mix.
This could've been a home recording of Randy taking a shit, and you would've eaten it up.
We all know Ashes of the Wake is the superior album.
But do you have the multi-tracks of randy’s poop? CHECKMATE.
No, all I have is some poorly written scat fan fiction. Not seen any of your videos before but I watched the entire thing, really interesting inside look.
That bass guitar is heavily heavily edited. Especially on the middle breakdown section. Sounded bad on its own.
Yeah I hate to say it, love Campbell, but those tails at least definitely sound like they're copied and pasted. You can hear it especially when the groovier part comes along. The lead guitars also sounded like they just took the beginning of the ending lead part and just ctl-c/ ctl-v'd that to the middle
Good think you never hear the bass by itself. It’s a mix not a solo
That snare is beautiful
I highly doubt these tracks are raw. They all sound edited, pitch corrected, quantized and post processed to me.
Indeed. Those Files are good to learn though, cause when you fuck it up, you cant blame the band or cheap gear or whatever. Its a Good thing to send good tracks to the mixing engineer. If you have have to mix raw tracks, you have to gate/Edit the drums, then you have to Trigger. That cost you at least 2 days for a 10 song record. 2 days of listening to raw tracks while editing cost you fresh hearing before you actually Start " mixing".
If you work as a mixer (which is what Nail The Mix is mostly for) you usually recieve the files like this. Edited and a little pre-baked
📍such a wonderful opportunity and great experience thank you for the content excellent!!!!☠☠☠
Appreciate the support sir!
I used to over dub my drums when I recorded on my tascam 8 track ..yes it was a very painful all be it fun but very painful experience everytime...your a smart man...however each time I was better for doing so. For me good comes from those fiery trials in recording.
Awesome
This is a sweet video, you have any music your band makes? i'd like to check them out.
We’re called “Lamb Of God,” check us out!
@@URMAcademy
LOL
Is that the St. Anger snare sampled?
Dude fuck yeah!!
How do they record such a clicky kick drum anyway?
An analog EQ and comp on the way in?
Any detail on that?
Paulius Mscichauskas could it be a synth kick? Using triggers?
The typewritter sample + EQ/Comp, most likely.
"Sounds like a FUCKING band, but I'll keep going"
(c) Eyal Levi
They are using Boogie MK IV'S
God i knew it!
21 tracks of drums? Is that how many mics there are?
Im amazed.
Next thing
The Haunted. Believe me :)
Please check out Nocturnal by The Black Dahlia Murder. One of the cleanest sounding records ive hear. Anything that Jason Suecof touches is gold.
Jason is one of the very best for sure!
How do you get this file?
Join at nailthemix.com and you’ll get instant access :)
How come he's using Lar's St Anger snare, but it sounds good? I don't understand this witchcraft.
Man you can clearly hear that the drums and the bass are programmed. Even if there was a machine the plays a physical bass guitar it wouldn't sound that robotic. And there are room mics to the snare which lead me to think that this is as well a drum vst. So Eyal you are basically saying that this is the way it should be done!!!
The drums are overdubbed, not programmed. Watch and listen to the video for a full explanation.
I’d assume they used Mesa Mark 4’s for this
Why narrator Voice is so loud respectively to the Multitracks :(
You forgot to solo the 6 tracks worth gasp of breath at the very start of the vocal tracks haha!
We’ll drop a remix of just the gasps and drums
is there bonus points in the contest for replacing all the snares with gasps?
Dude couldn't tell sampled drums from real ones even if his life depended on it. 😂
They arent sampled
@@URMAcademy If you say so. 😇
Lmao Eyal is fanboying the fuck out.
what? its' already mixed, it's post stem mixed stop
Most drums but not cymbals are actually samples and the mics turned into midi triggers. It’s a dirty little secret in death metal audio engineering.
usually when they can't afford the studio time
It's a secret?
lol it was a secret when I found out several years ago, now its just a dirty little secret.
excuse my noobness, but what is the typewriter sample doing?
Its supporting the kick its without dynamic so when the drummer losses some power on kick at least ther will be the sampel
So wait let me see if i understand this i know im late as hell with this question but the typewriter track is used for support when the main track lacks velocity? If thats the case then how does the typewriter track remain so subtle until its needed?
Cool video, man. Btw, you're pronouncing Randy's last name wrong. It's just Bly. The "the" at the end is silent.
I want to hear you pronounce my name
PLEASE do code orange
I understand the ranting. Little known drummer Shawn Eldridge has always been top notch drumming for me. Every project I engineered has been awsome with him. Just sayin.
I wanna see some EQ!
He’ll be mixing it on the live stream sept 15th!
@4:42 Holy shit. Chris Adler is definitely an underrated drummer.
For me, it sounds much better to overdub drums instead of using samples.
Why so angry at nothing?
Great stuff Mach¡n£ is a fuckin legend and this album shows why!!!
Facts!
Kind of odd that the guitar cuts are so shitty on this. Pops like the ones that happen at the beginning of the song are not okay.
Ectoplasmic36 They can be due to the multi-track export from Pro-Tools. They're unlikely to be like that on the final mix
The raw play through sounded completely normal
Dat fuckin' snare tho
same as your meshuggah stems. theyre already caked. it's done. stop
Stop what? The tracks are literally exactly what was used on the album. If you don’t like the fact that they had some compression and EQ on the way in, I don’t know what to tell you... we just give you the tracks that were used on the album. We do not touch them in any way before releasing them to our members.
URM Academy What im saying is, in several of these releases when the engineer sends you these, they’re already post fader, post eq and compression. I say this because you can basically bring everything up to unity and it’s done. Kids that pay for this service aren’t going to learn much of anything by that, thankfully not every release is like that.
Also my apologies for being hostile, was drinking and staring at my own pro tools screen wishing the particular session came as nice and “done” as this one lol