After Ripley is rescued from her prolonged hypersleep she is informed that her real daughter had died of age 62 during the 52 years she was asleep.@@raygruberski1502
He was a complete beauty of a man, always so darkly sexual. I still wonder what on earth happened to him in the mid 2000s to have lost his gorgeous hair and having gained weight.
Do you remember both of you kids looking off screen at someone giving you cues? Because it totally looks like you look to your left and then say your line.
@@tonydancefit She put him in a mental institution and took everything from him through lies and manipulation. He just responded to what she did to him, as an "insane" man.
This was interesting. Definitely not how I thought it was going to end. I thought he'd bring in her lover back in Texas after handing him a few thousand dollars and have some sort of plan to catch her flying out to New Zealand. He instead choked her to death. This of course is a situation that could have been improved by a bit of honesty from both parties. I suspect sexual abuse on both parties. Sissy clearly has an abusive father bullying her mother which she never really explored and simply discarded that personality pointing to escapism, a harmful suppression of memories in the name of loving her father, or at least staying together which manifested into hatred of men. She is paying her father back as Lena, she should have instead confronted him with her husband. Ray on the other hand was probably abused as a child as well, something he attributed to clowns. Rarely do people interpret overconfidence as someone trying to rape them, which he did. Instead of avoiding his fear of clowns he should have seeked help. It also seems to me like that's where his violent tendencies are rooted in. In his dreams the clown's face always seems to coincide with his object of fear. Someone hurt both of these people and none of them, including the professionals tried to make it better for either of them. Violent Ray kills a girl who lived in a man's world just out to get him back. Not the best story... he probably kills himself later for becoming his nightmare or someone urgently provides him a way to heal. Post choking out the mother of your children it's likely not going to go easily. A dark and depressing movie. I liked it. Edited: James Spader of course is a great actor. This movie certainly shows off some of that talent. Mädchen Amick was equally impressive. I especially liked how she showed up on the last scene just really not wanting to be there flicking a cigarette in contempt. 😄
Lena was only trying to get back to him because of money. She married Ray because he was a billionaire but Ray loved her full heartedly but she always kept lying to him and always cheated him. Anyways, earlier I was loving their chemistry so so much... but when I came to knew that she was cheating him and that last scene, I swear broke my heart😔 But I still have a question that were those kids of Ray? And why was she cheating him? Although it was a great movie but is really disappointing
okay so I just watched this on Netflix and the part with the kids in the park showing that his plan worked was deleted. It went straight from the death to the carnival. I found the carnival scenes to be very annoying and forwarded through them all. Very good movie and really not sure why they delete that scene. I went onto IMDB and read about it having a different ending in some cuts so came here to look for the info. Thanks for placing this up here.
Your welcome. And one of the reasons it has different cuts, one of which that is posted here...is from the vhs unrated version. It has 4 minutes of extra scenes. It also includes a more collaborated sex scene as well. The version you watched on Netflix is just the regular theatrical release. And I agree, the carnival scenes are a bit much but the only reason I ever watch them at all is simply just to watch Spader. But other than that,can't really stand it. I'm glad you liked the video. :-)
I can see sitting back on the sex scene but why cut out the ending where he is back with the kids and whole again or as whole as he can be- so cool that eh does disrupt the kids mental health by bashing the mother
Honey059 i can't stand spader. i watched this to punish myself when it came on cable, ff any sex scenes. btw the actress gave birth like three weeks before they filmed those
You may want to add that this was the deleted FINAL scene from the movie Dream Lover (excluding the surreal and wordless scene of the couple dancing.) The deleted scene is actually... well, not very good. And Kazan was wise to cut it.
I saw this in the Rental Laserdisc back in the day. Outside the US there was no Blockbuster Video, but independent Laser Disc rental shops near malls. I was a member of "Dial-a-Disc." Imagine having a movie delivered to your home via motorcycle rider 20+ years before Netflix! Me I picked-up the movie in-person. Saw Mädchen's face on the cover and just had to see what it was about, and I don't even care for noir thrillers.
Why was this scene deleted? It would have been good to know what happened to James Spader character. The actual final ending dancing scene tells the audience nothing. This movie was poorly written and unbelievable. Too bad to waste a weak film on Spader.
Yes. This scene, along with other scenes that is too risque to upload is only on the extended vhs version. I don't know why MGM didn't add it to their DVD release in special features so that they could have this on it. I wish this movie was re-released on DVD with the extended scenes added. But so far there's no word on that. So vhs is the only way to go for now.
Just could never understood for what reason an idea of "Not Enough Time" video by INXS was ever appropriated to someone like Spader taking into account he acted George's part in the film. Despite George really refused Michael Hutchence of his own life place at the time as manipulated in order to elliminate him as a concurent
@@tonydancefit I agree-- it sorta ruined his perfect good guy character. But right before she said she was gonna snatch those kids or possibly abandon them, and maybe it was the only way to protect them from her evil. Meh.
Watching that film I did't go to the same conclusion most of comments go here. The director put the spectator in point of view of the killer. We are forced to see things through is own paranoid point of view. More or less, he appears a nice guy, but more and more his behavior starts to be unbearable. The wife appear less and less real, because we see her as he sees her not as she is. This film is very hard to watch. But the worst, in this, is that some James Spader's fans could think he would promote domestic violence... You are dummies...
So the plot twist was that she was sane and he was a killer all along ? Lol she drove him insane how about denouncing ruining their husbands lives in real life ? We know why he hit her in the movie so why are people taking this serious ?
Damn you Spader! Let her go! You son of a bitch! You're choking her you jerk! You're choking her! Let her go! Let her go! Are you proud of yourself? You're strangling her! Let go! Let go!
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They should have kept the deleted scene. It brings positive closure to the story.
Thats the only ending I remember ever seeing?
After Ripley is rescued from her prolonged hypersleep she is informed that her real daughter had died of age 62 during the 52 years she was asleep.@@raygruberski1502
Madchen’s character was a psychopath. His only way out was to strangle her. Sad how many people on here are operating on less than two brain cells.
James is the best! Love that Spader hair back in his younger days.
Spader is a jerk for strangling her.
@@tonydancefit n what is she for destrying him
@@AnkitaMalviya108 She's no angel but he didn't have to strangle her. He was a coward.
He was a complete beauty of a man, always so darkly sexual. I still wonder what on earth happened to him in the mid 2000s to have lost his gorgeous hair and having gained weight.
@@fabiolaandrea5381 I wish he didn't strangle in this movie. That really broke my heart.
Haha I was the little girl in this scene 😃 thank you so much for posting!!
Wow! That's so awesome. Thank you for your comment. You've just made my day ^-^
Do you remember both of you kids looking off screen at someone giving you cues? Because it totally looks like you look to your left and then say your line.
I would have been so nervous with James Spader by my side xD
Omg you got to hold his handddd
Omg that's so cool. I have so many questions like what was he like ?
this movie is so touching. great and James rocks in it.
how I love when he says "aha"
God, how sweet this man is !
I just loved the ending, after all she shouldn't have messed with him, Spader has a dark side too!
I hated the fact he strangled her. She didn't deserve that.
How can you condone a man choking a woman with a towel?
@@tonydancefit She put him in a mental institution and took everything from him through lies and manipulation. He just responded to what she did to him, as an "insane" man.
@@fabiolaandrea5381 Don't you see that he choked her? He didn't have to choke her. If anything she should've strangled him.
@@tonydancefit Hahaha!!!
This was interesting. Definitely not how I thought it was going to end. I thought he'd bring in her lover back in Texas after handing him a few thousand dollars and have some sort of plan to catch her flying out to New Zealand. He instead choked her to death.
This of course is a situation that could have been improved by a bit of honesty from both parties. I suspect sexual abuse on both parties. Sissy clearly has an abusive father bullying her mother which she never really explored and simply discarded that personality pointing to escapism, a harmful suppression of memories in the name of loving her father, or at least staying together which manifested into hatred of men. She is paying her father back as Lena, she should have instead confronted him with her husband.
Ray on the other hand was probably abused as a child as well, something he attributed to clowns. Rarely do people interpret overconfidence as someone trying to rape them, which he did. Instead of avoiding his fear of clowns he should have seeked help. It also seems to me like that's where his violent tendencies are rooted in. In his dreams the clown's face always seems to coincide with his object of fear.
Someone hurt both of these people and none of them, including the professionals tried to make it better for either of them.
Violent Ray kills a girl who lived in a man's world just out to get him back. Not the best story... he probably kills himself later for becoming his nightmare or someone urgently provides him a way to heal.
Post choking out the mother of your children it's likely not going to go easily.
A dark and depressing movie. I liked it.
Edited:
James Spader of course is a great actor. This movie certainly shows off some of that talent. Mädchen Amick was equally impressive. I especially liked how she showed up on the last scene just really not wanting to be there flicking a cigarette in contempt. 😄
Lena was only trying to get back to him because of money. She married Ray because he was a billionaire but Ray loved her full heartedly but she always kept lying to him and always cheated him.
Anyways, earlier I was loving their chemistry so so much... but when I came to knew that she was cheating him and that last scene, I swear broke my heart😔
But I still have a question that were those kids of Ray? And why was she cheating him?
Although it was a great movie but is really disappointing
okay so I just watched this on Netflix and the part with the kids in the park showing that his plan worked was deleted. It went straight from the death to the carnival. I found the carnival scenes to be very annoying and forwarded through them all. Very good movie and really not sure why they delete that scene. I went onto IMDB and read about it having a different ending in some cuts so came here to look for the info. Thanks for placing this up here.
Your welcome. And one of the reasons it has different cuts, one of which that is posted here...is from the vhs unrated version. It has 4 minutes of extra scenes. It also includes a more collaborated sex scene as well.
The version you watched on Netflix is just the regular theatrical release.
And I agree, the carnival scenes are a bit much but the only reason I ever watch them at all is simply just to watch Spader. But other than that,can't really stand it.
I'm glad you liked the video. :-)
I can see sitting back on the sex scene but why cut out the ending where he is back with the kids and whole again or as whole as he can be- so cool that eh does disrupt the kids mental health by bashing the mother
Honey059 i can't stand spader. i watched this to punish myself when it came on cable, ff any sex scenes. btw the actress gave birth like three weeks before they filmed those
+dlny911 because they don't want to endorse the message that claiming insanity to a crime can get you off from something as serious as murder.
Idk all i care about is that she is dead
You may want to add that this was the deleted FINAL scene from the movie Dream Lover (excluding the surreal and wordless scene of the couple dancing.)
The deleted scene is actually... well, not very good. And Kazan was wise to cut it.
Yeah it wouldnt have made much sense considering the wife was psycho
I like it, it may be real or surreal, depending on the viewer's criteria
I saw this in the Rental Laserdisc back in the day. Outside the US there was no Blockbuster Video, but independent Laser Disc rental shops near malls. I was a member of "Dial-a-Disc." Imagine having a movie delivered to your home via motorcycle rider 20+ years before Netflix! Me I picked-up the movie in-person. Saw Mädchen's face on the cover and just had to see what it was about, and I don't even care for noir thrillers.
Thanks!!! :)
You're welcome. :-)
Why was this scene deleted? It would have been good to know what happened to James Spader character. The actual final ending dancing scene tells the audience nothing. This movie was poorly written and unbelievable. Too bad to waste a weak film on Spader.
Spader was wrong for strangling her.
@@tonydancefit You keep saying this but offer no alternative.
@@njva17420 Meet up for coffee and discuss things like adults.
I think I remember this scene from the movie. Was it deleted in the years since its release?
Yes. This scene, along with other scenes that is too risque to upload is only on the extended vhs version. I don't know why MGM didn't add it to their DVD release in special features so that they could have this on it. I wish this movie was re-released on DVD with the extended scenes added. But so far there's no word on that. So vhs is the only way to go for now.
I saw this movie on RUclips recently and this scene was in it. Draem lover is the perfect nickname for James Spader!
What did the girl say?
Thank God for that! It's a creepy scene...
I just wateched the movie. This scene wasn't deleted.
In the DVD it was
james spader has 3 sons
Just could never understood for what reason an idea of "Not Enough Time" video by INXS was ever appropriated to someone like Spader taking into account he acted George's part in the film. Despite George really refused Michael Hutchence of his own life place at the time as manipulated in order to elliminate him as a concurent
I have no idea what I just read here.
Sorry what are you talking about? I don't understand. What's that story of INXS video and Spader?
@@michaelshelbyedwards Me neither.
I have this movie and this was the ending, it wasn't deleted
No entendí ja el final loco , a quien mato a lena o la imagino ?
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I hated Spader for strangling her.
I have this movie, this ending wasn't deleted I have it
Spader was still wrong for strangling her. He didn't have to strangle her like that.
Me too
Why is that so
"was still wrong for" This movie was art (seriously). Art isn't about whether something's right or wrong, it's about art.
@@tonydancefit I agree-- it sorta ruined his perfect good guy character. But right before she said she was gonna snatch those kids or possibly abandon them, and maybe it was the only way to protect them from her evil. Meh.
POOR MADCHEN
I know. I was so sad when he strangled her.
I never understood this movie...
funny!
movie
i know its late to reply... movie's name is dream lover
Watching that film I did't go to the same conclusion most of comments go here. The director put the spectator in point of view of the killer. We are forced to see things through is own paranoid point of view. More or less, he appears a nice guy, but more and more his behavior starts to be unbearable. The wife appear less and less real, because we see her as he sees her not as she is. This film is very hard to watch. But the worst, in this, is that some James Spader's fans could think he would promote domestic violence... You are dummies...
The character was a sociopath - did you not understand the film? This was not a feminist text. Not everything is.
dude, her lies got to you too!!!!
So the plot twist was that she was sane and he was a killer all along ? Lol she drove him insane how about denouncing ruining their husbands lives in real life ? We know why he hit her in the movie so why are people taking this serious ?
"Guys forget everything she did; this isn't feminist!"
@@limeginger1320 psycopath
Damn you Spader! Let her go! You son of a bitch! You're choking her you jerk! You're choking her! Let her go! Let her go! Are you proud of yourself? You're strangling her! Let go! Let go!
Tony Jones r u ok
No. I will never forgive Spader for strangling that beautiful woman. She couldn't breathe. He didn't have to strangle her like that.
I always thought Spade was a jerk for choking this poor lady. My heart went out to her.
Tony Jones but it's okay bc she's still alive?? lol
I know. I just wish she didn't get strangled in the movie lol.