HBX 2995 vs HBX 901a - Two of the best CHEAP RC cars! Which is best for you!??
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2022
- HBX 2995 - amzn.to/3g3sd9L
HBX 901a - www.banggood.com/custlink/vKD...
Coupon Code: BG3b9693
Flyhal FC610 - www.banggood.com/custlink/mm3...
Coupon Code: BG6a080f
Yoncher YC400 - amzn.to/3T78B3a
Bezgar HM124 (901a clone) - amzn.to/3EJL04h
Bezgar HM101 (2995 clone) - amzn.to/3eA0SMc
Upraded Shocks (not good for 901a) - www.banggood.com/custlink/Kvm...
Big wheels/tires on my 2995 - amzn.to/3My1vCm
Big tires for 901a (shown on my 16889a pro) - amzn.to/3ezVHM4
Wheel spacers (needed for both sets of larger tires) - amzn.to/3ewkHE2
Dumbo RC transmitter - amzn.to/3T8axZm
Batteries used for both cars in this video- amzn.to/3EJV5OB
Hobbywing combo on my upgraded 2995 - amzn.to/3gbQz16
Comparable Spektrum motor combo if Hobbywing is sold out: amzn.to/3QzTqz8
Upgraded insane 2995 video - • THE BEST RC CAR BASHER...
901a with larger wheels video - • HBX 901A problems-upgr... 
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Awesome comparison dude, thanks! I have had my 2995 for over a year now and still love it! She is very nimble and like you said, has a bulletproof drive train. Very easy to service and work on when it's time for cleanings. I did upgrade her shocks to some oil filled ones and the handling is even better than it was. Full speed turns on dirt, and all 4 tires stay planted!
Thanks!
Ya that’s awesome! I love my 2995 still too!! I hope to see more iterations of that chassis being used soon!!
Very good overview and comparison of these 2 RCs. I do agree the 2995 is amazing! The chassis and driveline are bulletproof like you say. I have a brushless setup with the same large tires and have never broken one part!! Keep up the cool videos!!
I agree!! Killer setup! Thanks!!
great video, I love the breakdown. I have broken several axle shafts on my FC610. But I have a 3300kv 3660 brushless motor and big Duratrax tires. I had it out at a park last month and raced a Armma Vortex 3s and it held its own. Though the Armma is tougher and heaver. Definitely a great car and it practically worth it to buy 2 just to get all the spare parts.
I’m surprised you’ve broken axles. I Havent had a single axle issue with mine or my 2995. Probably will soon though lol
Thank you for the great video,I love buying the less expensive rc cars and upgrading them. I don't know which I enjoy more bashing them or working on them lol.
I’m the same way lol. Love both aspects of the hobby! Thanks!!
Man this is exactly what I was hoping for. I recently decided to build my son a dirt track at the house. We are new to year hobby and this is going to be his Christmas present. I picked the 2295 up on an Amazon sale for just over $100. I'm waiting to pick up the 901a closer to the holidays. I think these two will get us going. Thanks man!
I think so too. When you’re ready, don’t forget about the coupon I have with my link. Also, keep in mind shipping from Banggood can take some time. Glad you liked the video!!
should pick up bigger wheels and spacers too for the 2995. well worth it. 3s battery also.
Agree on this!
@@DerbyCityRC awesome! I'll check the link in your 2995 vids. Also bezgar has a similar buggy on sale for $89 regular $200 "Amazon". It's the HB101. Looks unbelievably underpriced. Let me know what you think.
Those are decent cars. It’s the same thing as the Deerc 9201e, but with a different body. I have a video on that one too from a couple months ago. Not bad!
Keep it up man. I think your channel is going to take off as more people find your videos. Easily one of the best and most thorough comparison vids I've ever seen. 👍👍
I definitely will and I really appreciate that!
I rounded the hex drive shaft on the front end on my Flyhall 610 and also broke the the pin on the a front dog bone, for the rest it's pretty durable. The only con is like you said the battery tray size (I don't have extra room because I use 120A Hobbywing esc's.) So I made a custom battery tray (from wood, what makes is again heavier :p). I also wanted to use 130mm tires but the stock steering servo is to weak, It's actually really ridiculous how it looks. :p I also reinforced a second body, the hbx 903 (it needs new post holes and it's a little bit less wide and high as the Flyhall body) .It looks fine with Wltoys 104009 roof+ lights on .
The 901A is really great because it's so damn light (what makes it durable). I uses somewhat the same tires you use (but with spaces so it doesn't side flip as much). I also broke a few eyes from the bottom of the front shocks, but luckily it's a cheap fix. On both of my cars I need active cooling fans otherwise the motors get to hot to touch.
I'm now working on a ZD Racing Pirates 2 car (Not really intended for bashing because they use a buggy chassis and isn't really durable) But I bought it for 140 euro's from Banggood a while ago. Still modding it, fixing it's flaws and beefing it up. So far I done 150A Hobbywing esc, 4280 motor, 170mm tires, aluminum center brace rods, the pirates 3 body, Arrma mud guard, Pro-Line Skid body protectors, and some custom leds that I integrated inside the body.
I also modded the 16889A into the pro version (but using the 901A esc) and a SG 1603 pro with Hobbywing esc to play with my cat :p. But somehow I always return to the 901A.
I’m surprised those things broke on your fc610. I wonder if they use weaker metal than the 2995, though I doubt it. I couldn’t have been harder on mine 😂
All those projects sound awesome!! I love beefing up these cheap cars. Fun times!
I have a sc8 hobbywing on mine ..I used 3m tape on the plate that screws onto the sc8 ESC and I 3m it onto to the top plate and it's fine but agree man that lipo tray is abismal lol 😂
🤣such a shame! Lol
CONGRATS ON 2K!
Thanks!!
Some really interesting differences I didn’t know between the two cars, in addition to the obvious centre diff.
For those interested in the durability of the 2995 with a pre-fitted brushless system, hang on for 2996a pro but with delivery prices rising all the time, the smart money is likely to be a flyhal fc610 with a budget brushless combo.
Over to you, Evan & family….
Thanks! Actually that’s my son (lol), but he is twins with my daughter plus he has the longer wavyer hair lol.
Yes I’m pretty interested in that 2996a. But most likely won’t be as fast as doing the upgrade yourself. My Flyhal conversion should stay under $200. That includes the car itself! Thanks Patrick!
I believe you should 🤣🤣
Awesome video! So much useful info. Thank you for making this.
Glad you like it! You’re Very welcome!
I’m waiting on the tires and brushless combo for the 2995 to come back in stock. I don’t buy anything until you review it. 👍🏻
I’m glad you trust my reviews 🙂
Here’s those tires from a different brand I found!
amzn.to/3Y1xzUc
And if you want to try it, here is a Spektrum motor with the same specs and should also still be very good quality. Same price too. I have a Spektrum on my Kraton that has been bullet proof, but I have not used this exact one. amzn.to/3HwibrO
Your vids are awesome most detailed I've found my wife jus get me the 2995 and of course ready to upgrade lovit these oildfilled shocks adjustable and jus cool so first wanna get 3s battery to start subscribed n thanks bro
Thanks I appreciate that. The 2995 is awesome!
Hey dude! I upgraded my holyton to brushless and had to upgrade the servo. It’s fast and fun but has an issue going back to straight after turning. I’ve tried multiple servos. The one I have in now is I believe a 6kg. Any recommendations? Love your channel by the way. You got me to rebuild my first RC car
Have the same esc issue, but happened by using only 2s. We will see, if that happen again. Thanks for all the good video content!!!
Wow! Hopefully no more issues!!
You’re welcome, glad you like it!
Well welcome back I ain't seen nothing from you in a while
Thanks man. Ya the is is a long video and took forever to shoot and edit. Also dealing with a few life issues causing delays. Thanks for checking in 👍👍
I wish everyone did old school videos like this, no BS , to the point, with real experience in the item and usability. you have my sub Sir
Thanks! Glad to have you!
@@DerbyCityRC Motor/ESC combo you posted for 2995 is sadly unavailable,. Can you please recommend something similar that's available?? THANKS a bunch!!
Greetings from Croatia, sorry for my broken English :)
Your English is not bad at all!!
How about this one? They are in and out of stock all the time and the links change.
amzn.to/3WxG0X6
Any info on Part # T2018?
I broke that steering saver assembly? And having a hard time finding a replacement.
Any Cross fitments?
Best place to get parts, especially for the 2995, is from Haiboxing-hobby.com.
They don’t seem to have the T2018 listed, but if you click “contact us” and send them a message with that part, they should be able to get it for you.
I’ve done it several times.
That’s the official hbx website.
Hi @Derby City RC, do you have any alternative body shell available for 2995. Need one as a spare but not able to find exact ones
The Flyhal FC610 and the Yoncher Y400 both fit, you just have to rotate the rear body mount post 180°
The same thing happened to my hyper go, and it was both the front and rear diff
Ouch!!🤕
I know this is an old post. I've had my 2995 for awhile. No upgrades. I do have the newer version. With the upgrades you've made (motor, tires, gears, shocks, etc), what order do you upgrade parts?
My concern is upgrading motor or something out of order and frying or stripping another part etc.
For the same reason, What parts do you need to upgrade at the same time?
Thanks. Love your stuff. Fun videos. Keep at it.
I don’t mind comments on old videos.
So the motor, pinion gear, esc, and the transmitter/ receiver have to be at the same time. Under that extreme power, the stock tires wouldn’t last long so maybe those at the same time too. The updated version you have should have oil shocks so could maybe wait on those.
Lol pretty much the whole thing at once unfortunately. Hope this helps though and thanks!!!
Thanks for all those links and I can't wait for that flyhal video thanks for sharing as always great video 👍💯
You’re welcome! Thanks! Getting the Flyhal vid done asap!! 😅
Looking for an RC for my son. These go for a similar price on banggood as the popular 16889a pro... Thoughts on pros/cons of each?
thanks this video was super helpful! would a 3660 motor fit in the 2995/ flyhal fc610? i still have all the electronics from a broker arrma typhon and thought this might be a fun transplant if the motor will fit.
It would be close! The Hobbywing is. 3652, but there may be 8 more mm in there!
How fast is the stock motor on 3s?
Hello, need help!! With wich model the 901a shares the parts? I need stronger suspension.
Only the 903 and the 903a. The 903a has an ever so slightly taller front shock set up.
" The ONLY thing standing in your way on a front diff replacement is 22 screws‼️ " 😆😆🙈👍👍🦾🦾 Grest video!
Been wondering about these two! Thanks for the info!!
Haha! Thanks! Glad it helped 👍👍
Yeah, if it was 23 screws that would be a deal breaker...Lol!
Cutting it close 🤣🤣
Hallo, can you help please - do the 901A diffs fit on the HBX 16889A?
Hello! I have heard that they do fit, however I have never tried myself so I can’t be sure.
I know this was a while ago, but you could have locked up that diff cup to continue to roll in 3wd. Glob of hot glue or thin wire to bind it up would have been removable.
Just got my 2995 a couple of weeks ago, and am planning on doing alot of your upgrades. Would you recommend running 3s on that brushless motor, or not?
That’s true!
Yes if you use the Hobbywing motor, 3s is no problem. The Spektrum motor should be even better as I believe the esc amperage is higher.
I'm thinking that the 2995 with a mild brushless upgrade and paddle tires would more fun than my Wltoys 124016V2 and with little or no down time for maintenance compared to the 124xxx.
Yes the difference in durability l between pretty much any HBX and any WL toys is night and day!
Agreed!
That will be the most efficient setup
Love my FC610 with the big wheel upgrade. Could do with some better shocks though, might get the ones you recommend. What weight oil do you use?
Those red shocks I recommend actually already come with a gel in them. It’s really thick, so I don’t know lol
What’s your recommendation 3s batteries for a “hosim x07” and for a “bezgar hm102”??? Link to the recommended batteries please
Unfortunately I haven’t looked into one for my Hosim yet, and I don’t have any Bezgar cars right now. Sorry!!
What wheel spacers for the 2995?
These 15mm ones are the ones I use.
Just put a bit of loctite on the nut threads
Have u ever used a esc with the program card
Yes but it’s been a while.
Fc610 3900kv 17t 40mph 2s sweet
I’m sure! I’ll be getting a 17t for mine. I currently do have a 3900kv in it.
F540 fit hbx models
Is there any metal suspension upgrades for the 2995?
Not that I have found, but also have found it doesn’t really need metal parts. That can cause more problems than it solves and the plastic is strong in these. Now shocks definitely need an upgrade!
Thank you sir
hbx fully upgraded is a beautiful beast. I just can't believe how fast it is.
Completely agree!!
Subbed! Not sure if I missed it, but does the 901a have 3 diffs too?
Thanks!
Ya I don’t think I mentioned it enough lol
Hey Derby, can you do me a huge favor and scan the parts manual of the HBX 2995, i need its references to use on my Flyhal Fc610. Thanks!
Sure man, send me a message on my Facebook page and I can send you pictures of the parts pages
What is the new motor/esc combo that you’re going to install on the 2995??
I know it’s a spoilers but I’ll also watch the new video, I love your channel man! I’m 100% more excited when you release a new video that any other video on RUclips right now hahah. Cheers!
Thanks bro! Super glad you like the channel 😃 it’s the cheapest 3650 motor combo from Banggood I think. Don’t even remember hat it’s called. Might be nameless 😂
What scale are they
Both 1/12
Top video ..did you notice on the 2995/610 the ESC itself has some weight to it I was like it's as weighty as hobbwing bl60 lmao makes a wltoys 45amp seen like a piece of paper lmao 😂😂😂..... I don't mean to brag or nothing but I got 17mph out my flyhal out the box :p haha 😂 I stuck in a 3660 3500kv on a sc8 and 16t pinion and so far only tested it once and hit 46mph on 2s but I think if I go to 4s it's a 60mph beast lmao 😂
Ya I did notice that lol. Also yes since the Flyhal has bigger wheels, it is a bit faster. I think mine did 17 also when I did my fc610 review video. I should have mentioned that. Good point! And I believe my Hobbywing Max10 pulled 46 on my 2995 with those big tires also. Can’t remember for sure so didn’t want to over sell it lol. That’s with a 3300kv
@@DerbyCityRC thanks for the info on the using thicker oil in the center diff I put some 50k in as highest I got and dam she handles alot better for some reason
Still doesn’t wheelie too easily?
I haven’t decided what I want to try in there yet.
@@DerbyCityRC mine will do a standing back flip from a standstill on a high punch but will not land lol 😂...Ive kept the stock shocks on for now but put in 1000cst 100wt oil and it don't sponge into what side you are turning ....I am happy with this 3660 3500kv but am tempted to try a 4300kv 3650 size
Ya my upgraded 2995 will do somewhat of a standing backflip too. I haven’t done anything to the center diff yet lol
Is the new 2997A an upgraded version of the 2995 with same body?
Well it’s a different body, but yes everything else besides the tires are very similar.
@@DerbyCityRC Sorry, my bad I meant chassis 😅. Thanks for the reply 👌
Haha, I figured. No peoblem!!
Toss in the 16889apro with this comparison and I'll likely just buy all 3 lol
Lol well I already have a video comparing the 16889a pro to the 901a!! 🤣
I have 16889a Pro, and it's every bit amazing, as you would expect
It sure is!!
Does the swing arm on 2995 interchangeable to the 16889 pro?
@@bossamo1373 I have the Pro and Flyhal, and as far as I can see, NO, thicker pins and diferent length of the same
Salut j'adore cette vidéo car ce sont deux voitures très solides et très fun !
J'ai une petite question rien à voir avec la vidéo, ton système d'accroche au mur pour les voitures ça ne les abimes pas ?
Thanks! Ya I’ve wanted to do this comparison for a while. It shouldn’t hurt them hanging like that. Hooks mounted under both front control arms. Prevents flat spots on tires too.
@@DerbyCityRC oui c'est pas mal ça évite d'abîmer les pneus c'est une bonne idée ! Je ne sais pas comment stocker les miennes, je commence à en avoir de plus en plus et l'étagère va être trop petite :(
Yes I ran into the same problem lol. Still don’t have enough room for all of them. But looks like we finally have a new house to go to, so once I get it set up, I should have more room 👍
Are all these cars you listed in the description the ones with a centre diff? I am trying to buy one but none of the adverts ever mention having a centre diff. Please help if anyone knows. I am trying to find a 1/10 (supposedly) with centre diff.
The only ones that DON’T have a center diff in that description is the 901a, and the bezgar that is the 901a clone.
The Yoncher, Flyhal, and other bezgar all do. Hope that helps!
yep it does, merry xmas
I bought the fc600 and the fc 610. The fc 600 is supposedly on a plane to the uk....has been for 3 days so I do not believe it even left china. the fc 610 is not due untill 20th of jan but it was the last one available anywhere i could find and have a feeling it will never arrive. (tracking suggests that it has not moved in the last week)
My plan is to bash the shite out of the fc600 and upgrade the 610 into oblivion. I am 50 years old and had a tamiya Pajero, and fox, as well as a engined Mardave Marauder back in the day (80's early) I also dabbled with planes n boats b ut cars were my love.
ps your links did not work for me so maybe you should update, sorry about that. I watched all your videos and subscribed as a consolation prize 😁
Great!
Ya alot of the Amazon links won’t work out if the us it seems, but thanks for trying!
I appreciate you watching all my videos. Lol
All 120 or so of them? 🤣🤣
Sometimes I watch an old one and it’s crazy how much my editing has changed lol.
You definitely got you two awesome RC cars!!!
Thanks again!
well all the ones under the videos tab, 90%
I’m not sure why.. 🤔
You say at F540motor 3500 or 3900 KV
The one I have to put in my fc610 is a 4000kv I believe
I had a crazy idea.. Could you upgrade a 2995 with a 901 motor without switching the esc/receiver and using the same controller? If so, would you recommend it as an even cheaper 2995 upgrade? This would make an interesting video.
Well, the 901a and the 2995 come with completely different transmitters, so unfortunately, I don’t think that would work 😢
@@DerbyCityRC such a shame, and there I thought I had found the perfect solution
It was a great thought!!
mate can you please verify that the metal front cvd shaft from the 901 fits the 2995? as i broke mine on the fc610, and as i cannot find it, please check if i can use the one from the 901a.PLEASE!(you said they are longer on 2995 but if..)
Ya they don’t work unfortunately.
Grab one for the 2995 from Haiboxing-hobby.com
👍👍
I just ordered ! i dont know if it is a trusted site though but I payed through PayPal at least!
Thanks a lot mate..
( I will have to sell it cause i believe i will have hard times with the spares here in Greece..hello arrma granite!😉😉)
Which one did you get?
Are you able to order from Haiboxing-hobby.com?
Parts for the 901s are also on sites like Pxtoysrc.com.
Last I checked they didn’t have parts for the 2995.
@@DerbyCityRC yes mate! everything is ok!they also answered my questions!i am waiting for the part to sold it asap( i have bought the tyres from your video also!and i will sell them also as the Vorteks has 14mm hex wheels..)
Thanks a lot mate!
Try gorilla glue original on broken parts but remember it expands
Good tip, thanks!
Mate, this video has a lot of work..you should have presented little more fancier!
Wait impatiently for the upgrade of the fc610 now as the new wltoys 104019 is a BIG disappoinment!
What do you mean? Like I need a better thumbnail? Lol ya I’m working on it.
I figured that 104019 would be a disappointment. I’m about to start working on that Flyhal conversion 😉
haha I have those monster truck wheels @ 1:32 there on my zd racing rig picked them up for 26-27£ uk from ebay
Ya they are great tires and super cheap!
@@DerbyCityRC lol my rig also just ate it's front diff on my third now as well the spares for mine do come in 2's so at least the next time it brakes I can fix it
Lol seems to be a common thing when no center diff is present lol!
This video makes me happy that I sold my 901 and now have 2995 & fc610
Id be happy too 😄 but I also plan on trying to make the 901a go 100mph first 🤣🤣 Not very confident but will be fun to try
@@DerbyCityRC 7000KV? my 901 drive spur lost some teeth when I had a tiny 2445 5400KV using the 2.3mm 14T hbx steel pinion. the surpass hobby pinions didn't last long with the higher kv motors, good luck
No I’m gonna use the motor from my cheetah and a large pinion, but I haven’t done any test fitting yet or anything. No logical thinking of any kind really lol. If the spur broke that easy it may be a short test lol
@@DerbyCityRC good thinking, at least the motor mounts are easy to drill out for a larger pinion can't wait to see he final outcome and that discount brushless fc610 vid
Ya it seems the way they have the motor setting on top of the driveline will be easier to make adapters for for the larger motor👍👍. I’m excited for the fc610. I’m actually about to start filming that right now
I have never bought anything from banggood is it hard or worth it 👌
Definitely worth it. They have a great selection of budget cars.
You can use PayPal for secure payments.
I’ve ordered many things from them.
Do you have anything thats not broken bro ??? 👀
Haha yes. I end up repairing the broken ones eventually anyway 🤣
@@DerbyCityRChaha yeah I know bro✌, I'm just amazed at how many broken cars I see in one place lmao 😂👍, but you do ride the holy crap outta them so it's understandable, but it does show us how good or bad these cars are before we go n waist money on junk or somthing we never wanted, I just feel for your pocket because it must be costly but at least ur getting the fun outta it and that's what it's about right 👍, Haiboxing realy surprised me with its durable quality for the buck and its guys like you and Kev who realy bring these things to light by pushing these cars to there limits and sharing it, great watching ur videos and they help many ppl I'm sure thanks bro ✌
I love this guy but I think he gave me anxiety on this video 🤯
Thanks! 🤣 why is that? Lol
Hey Evan! I really need ur help lol I’ve recently seen a video where you mention that one of the most common problemas that you had with hbx was the fact that the drive cup of the diffs broke and that it was easy to tell because one tire spin and the other doesn’t, we’ll it seems like I’m in the same spot with my 16889a pro but I can’t seem to find for the love of god the spares that I would need to fix it, could you please please help me brother? 🥲😓
I really don’t know if this is the video that you mention that since I have seen a lot of ur videos lately lol but I figure that I have a bettter shot of you responding at me if I comment in ur latest video! Hope it works
Hey I always try to respond no matter which video 👍👍 so can you tell what’s broken? The most common breakage in my 16889a pro is the wheel pin inside the plastic hex behind the wheel nut. Have you been able to confirm the actual issue?
@@DerbyCityRC hey man! Thanks for replying 🙌🏻🙌🏻 one drive cup of the rear differential moves a lot more than it should and it can spin without making the other one spin, I opened the diff and one spider gear was chewed and so I replaced it but it still does it, I’m trying to figure out how to take it off thou (the drive cup) lol thanks a lot for ur help man, I’m just about 10 months into the hobby and I have watched ur channel since the beginning of it lol love ur vids bro 💪🏻
There is a very small allen screw in the side of the diff housing you need to remove so you can get the drive cup pin out.
That’s great to hear!! Much appreciated!