CROSS CUT vs PINCH CUT pliers | electricians tools
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- Cross cut pliers vs pinch cut pliers. I’ve used a heap of pliers over the years and the cross cuts are awesome. I’ll take you through my thoughts about them and show the differences.
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I agree, but do know they will chip if you cut MC Cable Me living in USA have never heard of crosscut linesmen. I seen them on Amazon and was curious enough to pay $65 for them.
I've been searching for another pair because idiot me put to much pressure on them trying to sharpen them with a bench grinder. Amazon no longer sells them so I'm not sure how to buy them now. The way Amazon wants it i'm sure
With channel lock grips though
When you strip with cross cuts, Pinch it like you do, then move the blade forward about 5mm and pull the outer insulation off
Recently purchased the xtorque cross cuts for 21$ aud. Very impressed with them and love the handles. Also rated at 1000v!!!! Very sharp - comparable to marvels
In Europe we use smaller combination pliers (180-200mm most common),wire stripping pliers,cutting pliers and cable cutting pliers.There are combination pliers all in one but most people don’t like to use them.I prefer pliers specific for one type of job.
The best combo is to put channellock grips on marvel crosscuts, just dominates
Damn might have to try that out
Best of both worlds
I wish we could get stuff like that here in America
Check out the wattmaster MVA200W.
Nice soft grip, VDE and cross cut!
one thing to keep in mind, as electricians, we cut more than just copper, sometimes we cut screws # 6 to 10 machine screws mostly ( i know its not the best way to cut them, but we all do it in a pinch), sometimes we cut nails, and sometimes we use our lines man to pinch down on screw to pry it out of concrete slab, (high rise sparkies you know what i am talking about!)so for that reason i go for the " pinch cut" they are more robust, they definitely does not cut better than cross cut when it comes to conductors ill admit, but they are very versitile.
You kind always need to have a side cutter to get into something with the front cutters.. so you have them and then there is the long nose too with a pinch cut. The marvels are very sturdy.. do well pulling out screws and being a hammer if needed 😜
Crosscut all day everyday, everyone I work with hates them cause we use a lot of 0.5 controls cable and they nick copper but they’re what I learnt on so I love em
my favorite is the knipex strippers, theyre very similar to these but have the holes, goes up to 20 gauge solid
We use marvels at work and they are great. Cheers for the tip on angling the blade away from the direction your stripping. Really appreciate your videos, ta mate.
I use the wiha at home, they are good too but don't slip into and out of the back pocket as easily as the marvels.
Ive started using a bandsaw for bigger cable. Its a bit excessive i know but it smashes through super quick. Plus you get a nice 90 degree cut without crushing the cable.
I also use the knipex vde shears aswell.
AHAHAHAHA
Yeah or a good hacksaw in a pinch.. you don’t always need the fancy tools.. also just takes a minute, if you don’t do it too often anyways
I found with my marvels that they kinda get better after heaps of cutting. A little blunter they are better for stripping
I used the Marvel Red Handle ones (1000v rated) cross cuts since starting, but only recently in the last couple months been using the Klein 1000v rated pinch cuts as I'm terminating more. I used to use cable strippers (crecent ones) along with the cross cuts. Now i just use the pinch cut pliars for everything...One less tool in the bag.
I used the red wattmaster cross cuts for a wile as well, but then moved on to the regular marvel yellow ones. it sounds crazy because they look the exact same but the marvels are easier to use. I think it is to do with the angle of the blade.
Rip the cable from the tip.. you never need to worry about any nicks in the cable... after about 6 months they will blunt slightly and wont nick the cable if you prefer to strip it that way, Marvel cross cuts are what i have ran for the last 10 years and i can never go back to anything else.
Never use them to cut tie wire it's the best way to put them into early retirement.
In WA for rough in’s, we strip, twist and cut all cables, much prefer the pinch cuts for that though. I’m running the orange Fujiya’s at the moment.
Good video as usual, you should try the stanley vde (yellow and red ones) pinch cuts, tried a pair the other day and was impressed
Cheers jack. I’ve eyed them off. Especially for the price. Didn’t think they’d be worth it. Might have to get my hands on some now🍻
Was always pinch cut until the last couple of years, now love cross cut can’t go back, been tradesmen 16yrs and I love them, been using the Wiha because that’s what I could get when I needed them and have been super impressed could never go back to channellock, I did also love the Marvels but I can’t use them in a lot of sites
what are they banned?
@@blairwilson9272 yeah especially on very large scale solar farm can only use pliers that are 1000v rated and with stoppers
@@bluekriss35 ah I see, I didn't even realise we had large scale solar farms in Australia
I struggle to change to the marvel from my channels I will live and die using channel locks I carry both but as a domestic spark I find channel locks better as general pliers
For me it depends how much TPS I have coming out of the wall as to how cavalier I am with cable stripping (ie if there’s only a wee little bit to play with then no tricks just do it a so the cable doesn’t get damaged).
I use cross cuts but still own a pair of normal pliers and Clipsal’s quick connect variant.
I prefer Marvel over Channellock but would recommend that you use what you personally are comfortable using out of all my sparky mates only I use cross cuts.
I am going to buy a pair of the X-Torque brand just to check them out.
How did the Xtorque go for you?
Also no good for using as a hammer on the cable clips 😜. I run the knipex forged wire strippers with a pair on Chanel lock pliers in the bag. Seems to be a good combo for maintenance work.
Move the crosscuts a bit around the sheath and also the insulator before pulling.. then they do it all very clean
I have a pair of cross-cut like pliers and cutters, the 13 96 200 and 95 16 200 from knipex. It seems they are advertised more as "shears" than cross-cut everywhere else.
wattmaster do a pair with the marvel head but there 1000v rated
The old standard is the right tool for the job.
So cross cuts for rough in, cutting is easy and the tips for more reach for grabbing etc.
Cut, strip, and twist - cross cuts or pinch cuts with cable strippers that can take off the outer sheath and multiple core sheaths at once is a good combo covering all bases.
With a bit of training you can do all that with the marvels very neatly. Moved from Germany to Australia, got to work with the marvels a lot and absolutely love them
Well, yes, you can use one type of plier with some training to do all that, and with a little more training, you can use tools made for more specific tasks that make the job easier and faster.
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Isn’t it you need less training for most of those special tools?
Except you mean with more experience you learn to appreciate the advantages of special tools. If that’s the case, then I think the pinch cuts linesman are the least special tools out there.. really good at nothing but you can use it for everything a little bit 😁
Knipes make forged wire strippers and standalone shears with a crosscut blades. Not sure why Klein-style lineman’s don’t have a crosscut variant. Probably just the legacy of Klein on lineman’s.
Edit: just checked US Amazon. I couldn’t find any shear cut pliers like the Marvels. Too bad, would love to try them.
You should check out the Ideal 45-112, they are made for stripping Romex, I don't own a pair so I can't speak about how well they work but there are a couple reviews on youtube about them.
Ahhhh yes from our previous conversation, marvel were definitely one of the shear style pliers I had used in the past. Definitely great for cutting large diameter cables like the 90mm off grid battery cables, perfect! But for my everyday use, I still stand by my old trusty Chanellock pliers! Thank god I’m out of that over regulated industry now! Great video mate
I run both I use fluke and Marvel. Before the flukes I always ran Knipex and Marvel. It just depends what I'm stripping.
Marvel cross-cuts all the way.
Just have to use the marvels for a bit
I think people are getting confused with VDE, VDE is just an independent certification that they are insulated, there are still insulated pliers (e.g yellow and orange marvels), theyre just certified by the manufacturer and not the 3rd party VDE
Marvels aren’t certified by anyone
@@AddictedtoTools Look up the crescent insulated pliers and Irwin insulated linesmen pliers. Both listed as insulated against 1000v but not marked as VDE
Do you know if fujiya make any cross cuts? If not ill probably buy marvel cross cuts and put my channel lock handles on them
Hey mate, they definitely do. I show two of them in my most recent video. Part number is 6050-200bg
Here in Europe we have cross cut pliers I have only seen pure cutter in this style not the combinational pliers like u have.
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We tend to use "pinch cut" here because you can essentially cut almost anything with them
Remember, we also use our lineman pliers as a hammer😂
Can you track down a set of "knipex 13 72 8" and give us ya thoughts. Cheers
I have a pair mate
@@AddictedtoTools sorry mate should have looked first.
It’s all good mate. It’s a good question. 👍
Just received my pair. I love it so far
Are they like the ck croppers but pliers ?
Xtorque 👍
I loved my set of xtorque but the rubber fell off the handles after 3 weeks use
marvell cross-cuts all the way
Marvel crosscuts, which is strange for a gas engineer in Europe as they’re not even sold over here!
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After seeing hearing about cross cuts, went out and bought a pair of the crescents, definitely are stiff to start with though
Sorry to hear. I’m not a fan of any of the crescent pliers. They are always stiff and usually very blunt. I do believe the crescent cross cuts are fairly sharp. My pair are also really stiff
I gave the crescents a go for a bit, but found that the angle of the blade on them makes them hard to strip more then one cable or the outer sheathing.
I recommend giving the marvels a go and comparing the blades when they open and you will see what I mean.
@@AddictedtoTools I gave the crescents a go for a bit, but found that the angle of the blade on them makes them hard to strip more then one cable or the outer sheathing.
I recommend giving the marvels a go and comparing the blades when they open and you will see what I mean.
@@seanmegarrity6109 you guys got the wrong cross cuts. Marvel mva200 cross cuts are the go.
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I can only use cross cut to stripe Jack or stheah. Pinch cut does not work for me.
ain't the marvel rated at all ?
i used them live and never got shocked.
They will be insulated but have no rating. So they aren’t tested and or guaranteed to be insulated. If that makes sense. 👍
@@AddictedtoTools kinda. we only deal with 240v live termination sometime. So should be sweet
@@stephenstevens5746 i wouldn’t risk it personally.
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Pinch cuts let you cut, tear and strip if you need to, all in one motion.
Marvels all the way
Answer is obvious, pinch pliers aren’t worth a pinch of shit