Pretty impressed with basicly no wear on the Fujiya cutters after cutting the screw. That is a sign of a tool you invest once in and never need to buy a new one.
I've always been a hire-a-handyman guy. Being hit hard financially from the pandemic, I've been doing way more around the house/garage. These videos really help me figure out the best tools for the price and how to use them properly. I'm learning that buying cheap crap is exactly what you get and not worth it. I want the tools I buy now to last a while. Thank you Project Farm, subbed.
Dang dude, you even went as far as exploring their point of failure! You have to be the kindest, mad scientist there is! And the world needs you! Bravo!!!
I was one who recommended this and I’ve been patiently waiting for it. Honestly I’m not surprised Channellock did well. Most my common used had tools are Knipex, Channellock and Klein. As for lineman’s specifically I use Knipex and for the price I’m disappointed IMO they lost to Channellock but I’m glad a USA based tool company is still making quality tools. Great review keep them coming !
Likewise. I use klein and knipex bc they're usually the top dawgs in pliers. They also feel amazing in hand. Howeverz PF just proved on the last couple that channellocks outperform.
All the US and German pliers did well, and these tests don't expose the minute differences that you'll experience while holding them for hours a day. Linesman's pliers are colloquially called Kleins for a reason.
I fascinated with all these videos, I'm a HVACR tradesman and have an interest in quality tools. These quick straight to the point tests are very well done! I'm sure much work is involved in editing these videos not to even mention the tests. Thank you for your hard work sir! Much appreciated!
One thing about the Vampliers, you can use them to take out flush mounted stripped screws, which I think is unique to them. It's saved me several times and they're also very tight and well made. Great video again PF!
I got a full set of them just for using as screw extractors, everything they do as pliers is just gravy for me. I can't bring myself to really abuse then tho
Always the best channel for stuff people actually use. You do a great job of making tests as objective as possible, within real-world limits and always address "hidden" features that may be a make or break.
@@ProjectFarm great video man! We use the Doyle pliers a lot and have found they are the easiest to exchange if something does happen but rarely do we need that warranty. I am a fan of the Vampliers though too 👌
A multitool test would be awesome. I spent close to $1000 before figuring out which I prefer (leatherman surge). I have carried a multitool everyday for around 7 years.
Timestamps for Graphs 5:41 Gripping Strength on Socket Extension 5:47 Weight 7:44 Gripping Strength on Screw 9:24 Force to Cut Copper Wire 9:48 Leverage of Cutters 11:13 Force to cut 16 penny nail 13:08 Force required to cut Exterior Screw 15:30 Failure Load
@@ProjectFarm Suggestion for graphs when items are cut - add a 2nd color graphed line to show how much damage the cutter knife had. This gives context to the amount of force used to cut the bolt or wire.
@@ProjectFarm What in tests kept vampire out of mention in top. They seemed to do very well and price at $45 is higher than Doyle but way lower than Fujiyama. In just about every category they were in top 3, except cutting. In which case I suspect they need to be sharpened or in my case I'd get out Dremel. The big thing is they grip and are hard to break. They are near three times as tough as channel lock, btw. IMHO, Vampire made the grade. Doyle at $18 is super value. Doyle is what I own. If money was not issue, I'd pick up Vampire as I often find situation where I need their clamp force to twist/turn something loose.
I just purchased a DeWalt battery powered lawn mower. Not as impressed as I thought I would be. I honestly would have waited until ProjectFarm came out with a comprehensive review of the available battery powered lawn mowers in the market. A las I couldn’t wait any longer since my wife and I just purchased our first home and don’t want to be regarded as the neighbors that don’t keep up their lawns. That is why I am pleading that ProjectFarm help us homeowners by posting such a review as soon as possible. Thank you for all your hard work and honesty. You are a RUclips tool reviewer I trust and regard highly. Keep it going!!!
Follow-up, I ended up purchasing the EGO 21” Inch Select Cut XP Cordless Lawn Mower. The difference is quality of build and self-propel feature against the DeWalt are incomparable. EGO really does dominate the lawn care market in terms of battery powered tools. I already have the snowblower and that machine works well too. Should have shelled out the extra cash from the get go. Lesson learned.
I would love to see you test different Multi-tool pliers. This would be a bit difficult due to the wide variety of built in tools but a multi-tool show down would be amazing!!!
I love your grip and twist test! It’s well thought out and reflects a common real world application of this kind of pliers. Awesome job as usual! Actually, every single test was spot on! You applied a realistic grip of 100 lbs which reflects a grip someone strong can actually apply. You selected the most common electrical wire these pliers would be used on. You showed how well the cutting edge held up after each test, and you pushed them to failure to find their weak points and to serve as an accelerated cutting edge wear test. Your test methods are quantitative and repeatable with a little qualitative commentary mixed in as needed. This is the gold reference comparison.
Before finding this video, I had purchased the Vampliers. I had snapped an exhaust stud on my motorcycle and I needed something that would grip strong to back it out. They did the job with no effort. Since then they've become my go-to pliers and they never fail - incredible.
I absolutely love this channel. I’d like to see your catch-phrase used at a wedding! Her: “I promise to always love, cherish and honor you”. Him: *looks at the camera “We’re gonna test that!” :)
A suggestion: Many of your tests track two things at once. For example, cutting force/damage to cutter. You could use a double bar graph so we can check both things at a glance when comparing. Excellent work!
There’s nothing I hate more than the cutting blades on my pliers getting all boogered up! I’ll be referencing this video next time I buy a new pair. Thanks Todd!
I don't think the testing methodology is necessarily an endorsement. It's meant to be a relative strength comparison. None of these are good cutters, and they weren't meant to be. They're multi use pliers for cutting of soft or medium hardness materials only.
Never imagined I'd love a pair of pliers like I do my Engineer Nejisaurus (Vampliers if you're American). Only thing is once you buy a single Japanese tool it becomes an obsession, the difference in quality is instantly apparent as soon as you hold them
yep. i came across nepros brand by KTC. its ratchet wrench makes snap on look like chinesium ratchet wrench. the build quality of Japanese tools is truly equal to none. plus Nepros is cheaper than snap on. lol
A suggestion for videos, time stamps for the results. I often go back to old videos and I find myself scrubbing along to find the graphs. If you put timestamps on the video it would be pretty convenient. Thanks a bunch! This is still one of the best channels on YT.
I've been following this channel for years and it's amazing one of my favourite go to channels, and so happy to see even after 2 million subscribers, The people behind the channel are still humble and same dedication, honesty, curiosity that they've been for years, Nothing but respect and best wishes guys keep it up 👍
Another great video. I'm a professional electrician and have used klien pliers for 30 years and have tried ideal and channellock. A very common task as an electrician is twisting wires together, wider jaws make the job easier. Klien has nice, wide jaws where channellocks are quite narrow. Also Kliens have a lifetime, no questions asked replacement guarantee
Yeah, I've never known an electrician to carry anything _but_ Klein's. It is the stadard by which all other pliers are measured. At least here in the U.S.
I've actually always had really good luck with Channel Lock tools. The fact that they seem to be pretty well built and engineered along with the fact they're made in the USA sealed the deal for me. Your videos have only served to further convince me that as I buy new tools that they are a first choice purchase and to go to tool. Thank you for all of the hard work you put into these.
I have always loved your videos but my favorite part is how you come up with the testing methods and provide a graph. Infotainment is underrated and deserves more support. In my shop I have used Dewalt pliers for many years cutting copper wire was the hardest use it ever saw and a few years ago I bought a set of Doyle pliers from Habor Freight to keep in my handyman travel bag. I got to say I have been impressed with the quality of this new Harbor Freight tool line.
I own many different types of pliers- many are specialty items, but I probably have 50 that are within reach on my bench. Mostly Snap-On, but Vampliers are my GO TO for removing broken fasteners. They are made in several sizes, and are on my “must own” list. As the first test implied, their ability to remove broken fasteners is second to none- and I own left hand drill bit and every gizmo that has been made for this job… BEST WISHES TO EVERYONE!
One thing I would have appreciated was measuring the level of voltage break down. Just how much voltage will the plyers protect you from? A few of the plyers also have a guard to keep you hand from sliding forward and making contact with the uninsulated metal.
You really should only use the VDE-rated pliers for live work. They have the voltage rating printed right on the handle. Even if we tested the voltage breakdown of regular pliers it would not be reliable due to variations in plastic composition, small damage or even humidity.
All those handles are insulated beyond what you would be wise to touch. The thinnest handles are probably the ideals and they are good for over 1000v if they don't have holes. I have s 120kv hipot at work I've tested tools out of curiosity.
Thanks for the awesome video, Todd! I bought some Channel-locks recently to replace another set of Channel-locks that grew legs and wandered off to see the world. Glad to see they measure up fairly well.
Since you seem to be on a hand tool binge, may I suggest brands of screwdrivers? Slotted Drivers get used pretty universally as pry bars, scrapers, chisels, and of course slotted screwdrivers. I'd like to see how the different brands stack up in torture tests.
I’m an electrician and swear by channel lock lineman’s. I use the 10.5” ones and they are phenomenal. Same quality as the Klein’s. Smoother and half the price.
As a lineman this showed me I’ve owned middle of the road Klein’s for years. Maybe I’m just hard headed and stuck in my ways but no other brand feels a good in my hand. That being said I’ll stick to my brand but may use another brand to try out at home. Also you should have included a test to see which brand lineman pliers is the best hammer. Thanks for the awesome content!
Funny! A lot of guys use them to hammer connections. Just yesterday i was using vicegrips to hammer a cheap screwdriver to lock conduit nuts..Lol. I probably have 200 assorted Hammers.
I knew those Vampliers were going to grip well since that’s what they’re made for. I’ve got those Doyle and they’re great for a pair at the house that doesn’t break the bank. Gotta say, I’m impressed with how well Irwin did. Japan, Knipex, and Klein did well (just as I thought they would).
I’m a die-hard Knipex fan and have been using their hand tools (pliers, cutters, pipe grips) for over 18yrs now. Pleased to see they performed well in this test.
I am an electrician and have the Klein HD sidecutters. I use them everyday and based on what I use them for (cutting strength). The channel lock pliers are what I'm buying next. Don't waste money on super expensive pliers and if you use them everyday, definitely do not buy cheap brands. Thank you so much for your videos. Great incite!
In my 20 years as an electrician, I started with Klein, but then switched to Channellock. They are all I buy now. Lasts for years and made 30 minutes from me.
Another interesting, informative video. Seems like the Fujiya has the most durable jaws which, to me, would be most important. Love to see you do a test of the top brands where you make like 50-100 cuts through the romex or nail and see which blades hold up as this seems the most typical use case. You could base results on both visual inspection and increase in required force from first to last cut.
100% would like to see how they hold up to at least 50 cuts! This would be the most useful test possible for these tools. I don't envy him having to film that tho. 😂
I agree, one screw cut and most of those were trash, I hate having to use a different part of the cutter because it is damaged I always buy another at the first opportunity.
Personally I'd say force required to cut is the most important for me, so long as they' have reasonable durability. I'd rather put less load on my hands and replace it more often than have it last longer. The Fujiya seem great though, as the force is low as well as being durable.
My toolbox at work looks like a collection of stuff that PF would have put together. Screw brand loyalty, they want my money, they have to impress this guy. This channel has saved me so much money, thanks as always project farm!
I'm happy to see the American made tools holding up so well. To be fair, a new rivet will make the Milwaukee and Knipex pliers usable again, if only for light duty jobs.
If you think about it, the rivets are like mechanical fuses. If the rivets held on longer, the pliers would have failed in a similar fashion to those that didn't pop the rivet.
Drop test too! Too many times I’ve been checking something on a car at home and they hit the ground, or in a plenum space up on a ladder at work and my meter takes a trip.
This would be very very costly and the range on these are so far and wide. The price range goes from 5 bucks to thousands and there are 100s of models of each unit. Most volt readers give their specs in their paperwork. They are correct with in 1% to 3% depending on which model you buy.
One thing nobody talks is time to stable measurement. I have an Agilent U1253A DMM that *bam* first number displayed is very fast and very accurate. The last digit might walk 1 or 2 digits, or it might not, after that. The cheaper DMMs always take a long time to approach a voltage you can trust as stable.
Check out the Channellock 546 slip joint, for some reason Channellock makes them hard to find but mechanics will tell you it's their most often go to tool.
Here in Germany Hazet tools are very common and they claim to be the gold standard for wrenches, pliers, bits and seemingly everything else. I would be very happy if you could include this brand in your tests to see whether this claim is true. Greetings from Germany! Great channel, I enjoy your videos as well as the efforts you put into them, very much.
I never heard of Hazet tools so I looked them up, holy cow they are expensive. Does Hazet have tool trucks that visit garages to make it easy for the mechanics to buy their tools, that's what Snap-On does?
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A tiny amount of wobble isn't an issue if the shears are designed to be offering a straight cut when the wobble is absorbed under load. If the joint is sticky then it's making the tool a lot harder to work with.
Love these comparisons. Nobody does it better. Makes me feel sad for the rest. A while back,I bought Vamplier "screw extraction" pliers. I ended up using them for something I hadn't expected. Had a screw embedded in a tire. Couldn't get it out to save my life until I remembered the Vampliers. With the Vampliers it was fairly easy.
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Your tests are the most thorough I've seen over the years. Many tools I purchase are based on your reviews and have not been disappointed yet. Would like to see battery operated sprayers for weeds and gardening.
Now I know why I've bought the Channellocks for over 40 years; best bang for the buck. I don't buy Chinese no matter what name is on the label if I don't have to, I support the US people and MFGs every chance I get. It's why I buy DeWalt power tools over Millwaukee, and Channellocks over anyone else.
My lineman pliers are my dad's Kline pliers from the early 1970s. He was an electrician and electrical technician and was a big believer in kline tools. Great video!
I have a lot of Channellock pliers. It's my "good" set. Are they the best? No. They're good enough for what I do though. Their linesmans did better than I thought they would here. But I don't have the model that was tested. I have old big rivet ones and one pair of box joint ones. They're model 349
Channellocks make nice tools and I consider them amongst the highest quality. Also nice they are made in the USA which makes them attractive to me as well.
I have a variety Channellocks, a few Knipex , a number of 40- 50 year old USA Cratfsman from my early days and a handful of others. One of those others are Vamplier "screw extraction" pliers. For that specific use, they are outstanding. But, generally, I am grabbing the Channellocks first.
Agree, Channellock tools have been a good choice and good value for the money for a long time. I'm still using a pair of their #420 arc joint pliers I bought over 40 years ago, they won't quit.
People should start paying extra for quality. Instead of cheaping out for Chinese product. This means stop shopping at Walmart and support smaller local businesses, American made products, etc. Stop shopping at Walmart and Amazon.
Or rather, the Chinese take a product and build it to the price point offered by the Japanese or Western company that contracted them to make the product.
Over my 32 years of being electrician I went through many Klein Tools pliers, had some Channellock and Irwin as backup, recently discovered Knipex and loved them. Have no complaints about Kleins. Irwin perform well first couple of months, trash after that . Channellocks just don’t feel as comfortable for a tool that’s being used every day for hours. Knipex are just pleasure to use
@@americanpatriot2999 Klein is superior. This video is very interesting and all of this technical parameters is fun and all. But in the end it’s all about how it feels to work with, how it feels in your hand. Honestly if I could afford to buy new pliers every month, I’d go with Irwin cause they feel great but quality of steel just doesn’t hold too long
As I explained last time, as a German speaker, it's NYE-PEX, just like the word KNIFE - listening to him mispronounce it Ka-nip-pex over and over was PAINFUL! - The "K" is silent, this is not a hard concept!!
i find if you know its a tool you might use once in a while, say a home diy person that might need it for a project a couple times a year, nothing really beats harbor freight in value. Or if you want a mobile toolkit that if stolen, or if a tool breaks it wont make you cry from the price (yes warranties exist, but those can be a pain)
@@jjjacer as a mechanic, 90% of my tool box is icon tools from harbor freight. They outlast the snap-on tools others in my shop use, and if anything breaks I take it to the nearest harbor freight and get a new one free of charge.
@@hanksadventures4132 i have not tried their icon brand, most of my hand tools where the previous lower end Pittsburg brand. which are still going strong, but as noted i dont use then often
@@jjjacer yeah, I use some of the Pittsburgh sockets for my impact, and they are still going strong. As for pliers and screw drivers, the Pittsburgh just fall apart. Honestly, the biggest benefit to buying the tools off of the trucks was the no questions asked warranty, but now with craftsman, Icon, and even Husky offering the same warranty, the quality comes into play. I'll stick with my Ingersoll Rand air tools and Icon has my money for hand tools. Snap-on has it with its scanner tho, can NOT beat that outside of for-scan for ford vehicles.
There’s nothing like being on vacation in the Dominican Republic while I’m watching this clip and drinking a pina colada by the beach…………Hah, life is good.
Most people don't know that some companies own several tool companies. take techtronic Industries (TTI) for example, they own: Milwaukee electric tool, Ryobi, AEG, Homelite, Empire, Stiletto, Hoover US, Hart, Orech,, Dirt Devil and Vax. Some of their tool designs seem identical between the brands, minus the color of the tool! Meaning the core parts have to be made from the same factory, yet the prices sometimes drastically differ! After all it was PT Barnum who taught the business world they should also be their own competition.
Wiha used to be my favourite brand back when all Wiha tools used to be made in Germany. Then they moved some of their manufacturing to Vietnam and I could never justify the price of the tools since. I just stick to known USA tool companies now. High quality and good prices, can't beat that.
Most of the German brands got cheap lines made in China, many people just wanna say: I got a Gedore ratchet and they buy them cheap Red gedore everyone can afford, but compare it with blue gedore 😉 the blue ones last forever but they cost 20 times more Same with Bosch: blue ones are expensive for professionals, the green ones for people they just wanna say: I got Bosch...
@@khap60 I'd buy that but I can't find lineman pliers on their site that are made in Germany. That being said, I recently bough the 3 piece insulated lineman/side cutter/pliers combo and am very happy with it. No PF-level abuse from my DIY activities! :D
As a person who has all Wiha pliers in all their forms I am staggered by this test they performed 4th or 5th from the bottom in all but the last test. As a Chartered mechanical engineer the tests, although not carried out to laboratory standards, were well conceived and executed but more importantly carried out uniformly on all models with irrefutable evidence on the performance or lack of it on Wiha. I hope you sent this to them although I am sure they would come back with a load of Bull about how the testing of their products is carried out to exacting standards etc etc. Great test and I wish I had seen this 10 years ago I would have saved a shed load of money.
I would like to see a test of different brands of mold and stain remover for the bathroom or shower. Brands to test: Wet and forget Mold armor RMR-141 RTU sold on amazon RMR-86 Clorox Lysol DampRid Concribium CLR I think you will have to convince your wife and you to take longer showers! Please remember to wear a respirator while testing the products so you are safe! Thanks
Nice to see the USA represent so nicely! Channellock tools have always been good. Their pliers have a nice price point too which is surprising for a quality, made in the USA tool! Great video. Another vote for Project Farm to do vise grips!
This is one I've been looking forward to! Cult of Knipex, represent! 🤪 Realtalk: Unsurprised to see Engineer (Vampliers-that's who makes them) dominating the first two tests. Their design is utterly focused on gripping-especially gripping fasteners. The jaws are shaped specifically to hold a screw head! Personally, I own a set of Knipexes and a set of Engineers. Unless someone steals my pliers, I don't expect I'll ever need another set. Absolutely shocked by the Wihas. What a shame!
helpful as always, already own a set of channel lock pliers (various sizes) including the lineman. They never let me down, much like your test videos. Thanks for your outstanding work.
You took account of the play in rivet, but not the stickiness, which can be just annoying as, if not more than play during use. This is why I like Knipex pliers, generally no play and not too tight out of box.
Thanks! The test rig didn't convince me this time though. "Handles two inches apart" is not the way to go I think. You'd want a pressure sensor on one of the handles, then measure out equal distance from the jaw pivot for all tools and at that point apply the sensor and pressure at good human grip strength. I don't know how much that would affect the end results, but hey, just 2 cents :)
I was wondering about that myself. The only test I thought was valid this time around was the pressure to cut Romex wire. The rest of the stuff I wouldn't use linesmans to do. Linesmans pliers are just for wiring up solid wire. OK reaming conduit and pulling fish tape are valid uses too. Past that you're begging. Maybe holding a nut while you're tightening a screw too? That's an edge use case though. Smashing a cockroach as it's scuttling past.
@Frugal Family Living the big factor in leverage is how close to the pivot point you can get the jaws. Half the pliers that failed here did so because they really pushed what could be done there. Either that little snap by the pivot or the pivot itself breaking. Most folks do not have a few hundred pounds of grip strength though.
I came here to say this. The first two tests are totally invalid. It would depend on the handle shape, the stiffness of the rubberized coating etc. It needed an actual pressure measurement, not a distance.
It was an unusually big oversight, for sure! But PF is not a joke, whilst being grounded in the physical world, I'm sure the guy will take all this as constructive dialogue :)
@@jaakkopontinen Agreed. I believe he does a huge service to our community. PF, you demonstrated to me that which I had believed: When I bought my toolset about six years ago, I did but Channellock pliers for the you know, channel pliers which allow you to grip at different sizes. A Crescent brand wrench as the adjustable plier (lost it a few weeks ago and I'm heartbroken. 😥) Craftsman locking pliers and screwdrivers and Swiss tools hex wrenches. None of them have EVER let me down (except for that Crescent wrench which snuck away lol!) Love them all and I will replace with the same if I can! I think Channellock makes some of the best pliers out there!
A good test of lineman pliers is what I used them for when running a welding school toolroom. We cut TIG filler in half before handing it out (consumables are costly so they were rationed) and that meant hundreds of cuts through 3/32 and 1/8 stainless and carbon TIG wire. While individuals could cut by hand no way was I getting carpal tunnel so I tack welded a Klein lineman plier to some plate and clamped that to the bench. I slid some stainless tubing over the other handle for leverage. I used that Klein for months before the contract ended and I moved on. It's still there years later. Lineman pliers kind of suck as pliers but do well as cutters. The models with splice crimpers on the inboard side of the jaws are much handier than the plain style.
The downside in this comparison is that linemans are intended to be used in electrical work and the jaws are built for that purpose. Vampliers are not linemans pliers, theyre specialized fastner removal pliers. They (engineer plier co) already are the best in their category.
I would like to see a test on impact drivers, like how long one brand can run on full throttle before it burns up, or something to do with which one burns out first.
i wanna see two different scenarios like full throttle on low load high speed (comparable to drilling and driving small screws), and another test of endless full throttle on heavy loads (like driving large lags or running a large auger bit, but drilliing would probably be more suited for a drill)
I enjoy your tool comparison videos for a while now. However, in most cases it comes down to personal comfort when I select a tool. As in case of adjustable wrenches, hammes, or side-cut pliers. It's nice to know the weak points of these tools. But as most tradesmen, I do not stress my tools to limit of failure. For me, it comes down to comfort, reliability and finish. As a master plumber, Channellock is my preferred brand of pliers and adjustable wrenches (black Spain), Husky - diamond tip screwdrivers and socket stuff, Ridgid pipe tools and sewer equipment, Milwaukee cordled and 12v. Makita (spline) never disappointed in the chipping hammer category and Bosch SDS has been amazing for me. I do benefit from your wearable item content such as drill bits and cut blades. I highly regard your practical testing setups & objective reviews. Keep up the good work! 👌
The Vampliers are like a fish climbing a tree. They’re specifically made as screw and fastener removal plier first, and a universal lineman plier second. I’d recommend them more to carpenters for pulling stuck screws and nails, which they excel at.
100%, for my use, horizontal grip strength with the pliers having that design Ie a stuck nail where a claw hammer can't be used is far more useful. If you need to get a screw out a hard spot, just use needle nose vice grips
Did you measure the grip strength at ~ 100 PSI for each set of pliers for the tests? I ask because using a handle "squeeze" distance of 2" for all pliers would only be comparable if the distance from the claw to the fulcrum AND the distance from the fulcrum to the end of the handle AND the resting gap at the end of the handle was the same, which you eluded to later in the video. I think you demonstrated the differences in configurations by the wire cutting test...which indicates the configuration is different enough to warrant a repeat of the first two tests ensuring the "grip" is consistent throughout all pliers tested. I also noticed on the last set of pliers on the first test had etching on the shaft of the socket extender...this could also play a factor on grip strength if some pliers were oriented to bite into the etching vs. other pliers. The hydraulic press tests are well done and provide great information!
I own several of these and use them each for their unique abilities. Since I do not abuse my tools by trying to use them as they were not designed (cutting nails, screws or hardened tools), I tend not to break them. My Channellocks work great at cutting large wire/cable, they however suck at grasping and twisting items...that's where the Vamps shine. Great/thorough video, as always! I do look forward to seeing more!
I know the videos 2 years old but id love to see Crescent tested. They've recently expanded their line and have some very nice (and beautiful looking) hand tools
For as long as I can remember, us Southerners have pronounced Knipex "Ny-pex" and it sounds so strange when I hear someone say it the way it's actually supposed to be pronounced haha Great video, yet again!
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Nowadays whenever I see a manufacturer's claim on the packaging, I can hear Todd's voice in my head saying "we're gonna test that".
I do this in my head when anyone claims anything about anything
Manufacturer claims "50 times greater power than the competition", we're gonna test that.
A drinking game to guarantee wobble
Now a days, when I read a manufacturer's claims, I come here looking for a video testing those claims....
(when a tool exceeds its claims) "very impressive!"
"We're gonna test that!" That phrase makes me smile.
Happy to hear that!
"We're gonna test that, too!" 🤩
On some products it straight up sounds like a threat. lol
Hahaha. I love it. I'm going to start using it at work.
Pretty impressed with basicly no wear on the Fujiya cutters after cutting the screw. That is a sign of a tool you invest once in and never need to buy a new one.
Yep, confirmed by it breaking earlier and not bending on the last test. Very hard steel.
Thanks for the feedback.
I would probably lose the good ones.
Yeah it seems they went all out on the hardness, makes sense because who in their right mind reefs on a pair of pliers until they break 😂
It would be definitely sought after at the job site as a “Can I borrow that for a second”
Never to be seen again.
This person has a perfect positive way of speaking, emotion to a minimum as well.
Thanks so much!
I've always been a hire-a-handyman guy. Being hit hard financially from the pandemic, I've been doing way more around the house/garage. These videos really help me figure out the best tools for the price and how to use them properly. I'm learning that buying cheap crap is exactly what you get and not worth it. I want the tools I buy now to last a while. Thank you Project Farm, subbed.
Thanks for watching and subscribing! You are welcome!
I would recommend looking at the top few tools for each type if you are going to use them a lot. Comfort and feel is a personal thing.
Dang dude, you even went as far as exploring their point of failure! You have to be the kindest, mad scientist there is! And the world needs you!
Bravo!!!
Thanks!
i'm rly impressed he broke all his pliers.. lol.. it's fantastic.
My failure point is always when they fail to cut wire before my hands cut them.
His parents should be congratulated.
Needs to let his hair grow out and go full Dr. Emmett "Doc" Brown.
I was one who recommended this and I’ve been patiently waiting for it. Honestly I’m not surprised Channellock did well. Most my common used had tools are Knipex, Channellock and Klein. As for lineman’s specifically I use Knipex and for the price I’m disappointed IMO they lost to Channellock but I’m glad a USA based tool company is still making quality tools. Great review keep them coming !
Thank you!
Likewise. I use klein and knipex bc they're usually the top dawgs in pliers. They also feel amazing in hand. Howeverz PF just proved on the last couple that channellocks outperform.
The irwin brand also are very inexpensive and did a very good job and both this video and the last diagonal cutting pliers video…
U only buy Knipex channellock or Klein hinged tools. They are all high quality but Tough to beat the channells for the price.
All the US and German pliers did well, and these tests don't expose the minute differences that you'll experience while holding them for hours a day. Linesman's pliers are colloquially called Kleins for a reason.
I fascinated with all these videos, I'm a HVACR tradesman and have an interest in quality tools. These quick straight to the point tests are very well done! I'm sure much work is involved in editing these videos not to even mention the tests. Thank you for your hard work sir! Much appreciated!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Doyle: "Riveted joint for smooth action with no wobble"
Todd: "The Doyle brand has a small amount of handle wobble..."
Thanks for sharing.
RiP Joey
Yeah, that's gonna be a big oof from me there chief!
the subtlest of roasts
One thing about the Vampliers, you can use them to take out flush mounted stripped screws, which I think is unique to them. It's saved me several times and they're also very tight and well made. Great video again PF!
I got a full set of them just for using as screw extractors, everything they do as pliers is just gravy for me. I can't bring myself to really abuse then tho
If you like those search for "engineer" brand pliers, the vampliers are just rebrand with large markups.
@@greentjmtl Wow, didn't know that. Wish I would've bought those and saved me the marketing wank money. Thanks!
Knipex have even better pliers for remove screws.Knipex TwinGrip.
They have saved me a bunch of times when trying to extract a stripped stainless steel bolt in a greasy hole in the depts of an industrial machine.
great video, wonder how tools made in the usa then later made in china would hold up to each other, vise grips for one,
MUSTIE!!
The welding clamp vice grip channel lock brand from China are way worse than the USA ones.
Eagle made in usa vs chinese Irwin
Sounds like a good idea for an interesting video!
Man, chinese vise grips are absolute trash. Theres really no comparison to the brand name ones.
Always the best channel for stuff people actually use.
You do a great job of making tests as objective as possible, within real-world limits and always address "hidden" features that may be a make or break.
Thanks!
Finally the pliers comparison video we deserve! We use them so much got cutting copper wire at our salvage yard so hope I see the ones we use! 🤟
Thank you! Fortunately, I did include cutting copper wire
@@ProjectFarm great video man! We use the Doyle pliers a lot and have found they are the easiest to exchange if something does happen but rarely do we need that warranty. I am a fan of the Vampliers though too 👌
Can you test multitools like Leatherman, Victorinox and Gerber for us?
A multitool test would be awesome. I spent close to $1000 before figuring out which I prefer (leatherman surge). I have carried a multitool everyday for around 7 years.
Great suggestion! I'll do it, and I'll test each of the brands you've requested and more. I publish the video within the next 3 months
If Leatherman doesn't come out on top of that test I'd eat my hat. Well.. Maybe a leatherman from before 2000...
@@ProjectFarm Thank you so much for all you do. It is extraordinarily valuable, and we all very much appreciate your work!
@@fen4554 haha same here, best multitool ever!
Timestamps for Graphs
5:41 Gripping Strength on Socket Extension
5:47 Weight
7:44 Gripping Strength on Screw
9:24 Force to Cut Copper Wire
9:48 Leverage of Cutters
11:13 Force to cut 16 penny nail
13:08 Force required to cut Exterior Screw
15:30 Failure Load
Thanks for sharing.
@@ProjectFarm Suggestion for graphs when items are cut - add a 2nd color graphed line to show how much damage the cutter knife had. This gives context to the amount of force used to cut the bolt or wire.
@@ProjectFarm What in tests kept vampire out of mention in top. They seemed to do very well and price at $45 is higher than Doyle but way lower than Fujiyama.
In just about every category they were in top 3, except cutting. In which case I suspect they need to be sharpened or in my case I'd get out Dremel. The big thing is they grip and are hard to break. They are near three times as tough as channel lock, btw.
IMHO, Vampire made the grade. Doyle at $18 is super value. Doyle is what I own. If money was not issue, I'd pick up Vampire as I often find situation where I need their clamp force to twist/turn something loose.
UNIOR is not on the list 🙂
I just purchased a DeWalt battery powered lawn mower. Not as impressed as I thought I would be. I honestly would have waited until ProjectFarm came out with a comprehensive review of the available battery powered lawn mowers in the market. A las I couldn’t wait any longer since my wife and I just purchased our first home and don’t want to be regarded as the neighbors that don’t keep up their lawns. That is why I am pleading that ProjectFarm help us homeowners by posting such a review as soon as possible. Thank you for all your hard work and honesty. You are a RUclips tool reviewer I trust and regard highly.
Keep it going!!!
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm Just placed an order for some of your merchandise. Going to happily stick that Project Farm bumper sticker to my service truck!
Follow-up, I ended up purchasing the EGO 21” Inch Select Cut XP Cordless Lawn Mower. The difference is quality of build and self-propel feature against the DeWalt are incomparable. EGO really does dominate the lawn care market in terms of battery powered tools. I already have the snowblower and that machine works well too. Should have shelled out the extra cash from the get go. Lesson learned.
I'm glad to see the Vampliers did so well. I've been planning to buy one, and this had sealed the deal.
Vampliers are totally worth it. They grip like nothing else I’ve ever used, and they hold up for many years.
Should I buy them just for the name? I already have more pliers than I need for my lifetime...
I would love to see you test different Multi-tool pliers. This would be a bit difficult due to the wide variety of built in tools but a multi-tool show down would be amazing!!!
Great suggestion! I'll see what I can do
Great idea! The best pliers i've ever owned (and still do) is a multi tool made by Leatherman, same as the Dutch army uses
@@BinneReitsma The Dutch have an Army?
Would be an expensive test! A Leatherman Wave is $100 these days
I've carried almost every brand of multi tool, victorinox has been the best.
I love your grip and twist test! It’s well thought out and reflects a common real world application of this kind of pliers. Awesome job as usual!
Actually, every single test was spot on! You applied a realistic grip of 100 lbs which reflects a grip someone strong can actually apply. You selected the most common electrical wire these pliers would be used on. You showed how well the cutting edge held up after each test, and you pushed them to failure to find their weak points and to serve as an accelerated cutting edge wear test. Your test methods are quantitative and repeatable with a little qualitative commentary mixed in as needed. This is the gold reference comparison.
Before finding this video, I had purchased the Vampliers. I had snapped an exhaust stud on my motorcycle and I needed something that would grip strong to back it out. They did the job with no effort. Since then they've become my go-to pliers and they never fail - incredible.
Thanks for sharing.
They are great for screw removal
I absolutely love this channel. I’d like to see your catch-phrase used at a wedding! Her: “I promise to always love, cherish and honor you”. Him: *looks at the camera “We’re gonna test that!” :)
🤣
Snapped at 3 days without food.
Perfect timing. I'm a Channellock fan. Used to love Irwin back in the early 80's.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic testing! I never heard of a few of those lineman's pliers brands. You made deciding which one to buy an easy task. Thank you
Wow
My personal preference is the Knipex brand, but I can take anyone that suits my purpose at the moment.
@@ehsnils Channel lock not bad for the money.
@@ProjectFarm have you done a spark plug comparison?? for mpg and durability ?
Anything knipex is worth the money in longevity and toughness
A suggestion: Many of your tests track two things at once. For example, cutting force/damage to cutter. You could use a double bar graph so we can check both things at a glance when comparing. Excellent work!
Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks!
PF: "We're gonna test gripping strength and cutting power!"
Electricians: "But what about pipe reeming and hammering?"
Yeah when I did bridge construction I used em yo beat shit more than cutters or pliers
Yes, "every tool is a hammer"!
@@KJohansson hammer and hammer with batteries
@@snafuequals I love my 18 volt Makita hammer 😆
@@snafuequals haha😅
"Riveted joint for smooth action with no wobble"
_"The Doyle brand has a small amount of handle wobble."_
YOU HAD ONE JOB!
Whatever, they're cheap, or used to be.
Thanks for watching!
There’s nothing I hate more than the cutting blades on my pliers getting all boogered up! I’ll be referencing this video next time I buy a new pair. Thanks Todd!
I don't think the testing methodology is necessarily an endorsement. It's meant to be a relative strength comparison. None of these are good cutters, and they weren't meant to be. They're multi use pliers for cutting of soft or medium hardness materials only.
This is HANDS-DOWN, the most useful channel on RUclips.
Thanks so much!
Never imagined I'd love a pair of pliers like I do my Engineer Nejisaurus (Vampliers if you're American). Only thing is once you buy a single Japanese tool it becomes an obsession, the difference in quality is instantly apparent as soon as you hold them
I bought the JDM vampliers, while I don't use them like an electrician would, I find that they are the gripiest set of plyers I've ever had.
yep. i came across nepros brand by KTC. its ratchet wrench makes snap on look like chinesium ratchet wrench. the build quality of Japanese tools is truly equal to none. plus Nepros is cheaper than snap on. lol
@@lordjaashin Yeah saw AvE rAvEing about them, that's as close to porn as youtube allows. Oh to be rich...
@@chiefo7631 didn't knew that AvE rave about Japanese tools. i avoid watching his videos because i can't stand the way he talks
@@lordjaashin lol yeah he does a good 5 mins on the exact tool you're talking about, worth a watch even if ya have to mute it!
I lost it when you said “went from happy to snappy”, that made my Sunday. Thanks for the great tests and content!
The product testing is great, but the subtle humor is amazing!
what did you lose?
That was my favorite comment too! I snorked
@@marks6663 It
A suggestion for videos, time stamps for the results. I often go back to old videos and I find myself scrubbing along to find the graphs. If you put timestamps on the video it would be pretty convenient. Thanks a bunch! This is still one of the best channels on YT.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I've been following this channel for years and it's amazing one of my favourite go to channels, and so happy to see even after 2 million subscribers,
The people behind the channel are still humble and same dedication, honesty, curiosity that they've been for years,
Nothing but respect and best wishes guys keep it up 👍
I appreciate that!
Another great video. I'm a professional electrician and have used klien pliers for 30 years and have tried ideal and channellock. A very common task as an electrician is twisting wires together, wider jaws make the job easier. Klien has nice, wide jaws where channellocks are quite narrow. Also Kliens have a lifetime, no questions asked replacement guarantee
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Yeah, I've never known an electrician to carry anything _but_ Klein's. It is the stadard by which all other pliers are measured. At least here in the U.S.
I've actually always had really good luck with Channel Lock tools. The fact that they seem to be pretty well built and engineered along with the fact they're made in the USA sealed the deal for me.
Your videos have only served to further convince me that as I buy new tools that they are a first choice purchase and to go to tool. Thank you for all of the hard work you put into these.
You are welcome!
I have always loved your videos but my favorite part is how you come up with the testing methods and provide a graph. Infotainment is underrated and deserves more support. In my shop I have used Dewalt pliers for many years cutting copper wire was the hardest use it ever saw and a few years ago I bought a set of Doyle pliers from Habor Freight to keep in my handyman travel bag. I got to say I have been impressed with the quality of this new Harbor Freight tool line.
Thanks for sharing.
I gotta say, I've been binging your videos for past 2-3 days!
Very methodical and unbiased testing, and quite entertaining!
Thanks so much!
I own many different types of pliers- many are specialty items, but I probably have 50 that are within reach on my bench. Mostly Snap-On, but Vampliers are my GO TO for removing broken fasteners. They are made in several sizes, and are on my “must own” list. As the first test implied, their ability to remove broken fasteners is second to none- and I own left hand drill bit and every gizmo that has been made for this job… BEST WISHES TO EVERYONE!
Thanks for sharing!
One thing I would have appreciated was measuring the level of voltage break down. Just how much voltage will the plyers protect you from? A few of the plyers also have a guard to keep you hand from sliding forward and making contact with the uninsulated metal.
You really should only use the VDE-rated pliers for live work. They have the voltage rating printed right on the handle.
Even if we tested the voltage breakdown of regular pliers it would not be reliable due to variations in plastic composition, small damage or even humidity.
All those handles are insulated beyond what you would be wise to touch. The thinnest handles are probably the ideals and they are good for over 1000v if they don't have holes. I have s 120kv hipot at work I've tested tools out of curiosity.
The warnings on the pliers state that they are not to be used on live wires.
Plus you should have insulated gloves on too
Thanks for the constructive feedback.
Thanks for the awesome video, Todd! I bought some Channel-locks recently to replace another set of Channel-locks that grew legs and wandered off to see the world. Glad to see they measure up fairly well.
You are welcome!
@@ProjectFarm in
since I don't plan on cutting through a socket extension I bought the Channellocks based on this review. they are working great
Thanks for sharing.
I’d love to see his entire shop. The amount of tools and machines would probably induce major envy.
Also the amount of broken tools in the junk bin...
I'm afraid that all is cracked and broken. Because only then you know how good it was LOL.
He gives the tested and still working tools to charity in his area. He doesn't keep it all.
Since you seem to be on a hand tool binge, may I suggest brands of screwdrivers? Slotted Drivers get used pretty universally as pry bars, scrapers, chisels, and of course slotted screwdrivers. I'd like to see how the different brands stack up in torture tests.
This
Wera for the win
I still go with Craftsman for flathead screwdrivers because every time I break one using it as a chisel or pry bar, I just get a new one for free.
Darn, you beat me to it.
Nepros are far and above the best screwdrivers
I’m an electrician and swear by channel lock lineman’s. I use the 10.5” ones and they are phenomenal. Same quality as the Klein’s. Smoother and half the price.
Thanks for sharing.
And made in the USofA baby, murica!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
As a lineman this showed me I’ve owned middle of the road Klein’s for years. Maybe I’m just hard headed and stuck in my ways but no other brand feels a good in my hand. That being said I’ll stick to my brand but may use another brand to try out at home. Also you should have included a test to see which brand lineman pliers is the best hammer. Thanks for the awesome content!
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Funny! A lot of guys use them to hammer connections. Just yesterday i was using vicegrips to hammer a cheap screwdriver to lock conduit nuts..Lol. I probably have 200 assorted Hammers.
I've always been a huge fan of Fujiya, and vampliers. Glad to see them do well.
the vampliers were around for decades, they were called "engineer brand pliers" and were imported from Japan
I knew those Vampliers were going to grip well since that’s what they’re made for. I’ve got those Doyle and they’re great for a pair at the house that doesn’t break the bank. Gotta say, I’m impressed with how well Irwin did. Japan, Knipex, and Klein did well (just as I thought they would).
Thanks for the feedback.
I’m a die-hard Knipex fan and have been using their hand tools (pliers, cutters, pipe grips) for over 18yrs now. Pleased to see they performed well in this test.
Is it pronounced " k'nipex" or "Nypex"? I say the latter.
@@jdniedner I pronounce it Nippex so I’m not sure what’s correct!
@@jdniedner K’nipex is correct.
@@jdniedner I call them, the tool that shall not be named. Or you can call them Nazi tools. Perfectly acceptable.
Thanks for the feedback.
I just found this guy and I love that he’s all business and fast paced. Subbed.
Welcome! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
I am an electrician and have the Klein HD sidecutters.
I use them everyday and based on what I use them for (cutting strength). The channel lock pliers are what I'm buying next.
Don't waste money on super expensive pliers and if you use them everyday, definitely do not buy cheap brands.
Thank you so much for your videos. Great incite!
Klein was it when I was a sparky apprentice. Now I have Channellocks, Klein, Doyle, vampliers, knipex, they're all great at certain applications.
I like the Made in USA of the Channelocks. That is apparently what I will be buying from now on.
In my 20 years as an electrician, I started with Klein, but then switched to Channellock. They are all I buy now. Lasts for years and made 30 minutes from me.
Another interesting, informative video. Seems like the Fujiya has the most durable jaws which, to me, would be most important. Love to see you do a test of the top brands where you make like 50-100 cuts through the romex or nail and see which blades hold up as this seems the most typical use case. You could base results on both visual inspection and increase in required force from first to last cut.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
100% would like to see how they hold up to at least 50 cuts! This would be the most useful test possible for these tools. I don't envy him having to film that tho. 😂
I agree, one screw cut and most of those were trash, I hate having to use a different part of the cutter because it is damaged I always buy another at the first opportunity.
Personally I'd say force required to cut is the most important for me, so long as they' have reasonable durability. I'd rather put less load on my hands and replace it more often than have it last longer. The Fujiya seem great though, as the force is low as well as being durable.
@@lost4468yt I wonder if they make a long handled version
My toolbox at work looks like a collection of stuff that PF would have put together. Screw brand loyalty, they want my money, they have to impress this guy. This channel has saved me so much money, thanks as always project farm!
You are welcome!
I'm happy to see the American made tools holding up so well. To be fair, a new rivet will make the Milwaukee and Knipex pliers usable again, if only for light duty jobs.
Thanks for the feedback.
If you think about it, the rivets are like mechanical fuses. If the rivets held on longer, the pliers would have failed in a similar fashion to those that didn't pop the rivet.
I'm curious how multi meters would compare, accuracy, durability and battery life
Drop test too! Too many times I’ve been checking something on a car at home and they hit the ground, or in a plenum space up on a ladder at work and my meter takes a trip.
This would be very very costly and the range on these are so far and wide. The price range goes from 5 bucks to thousands and there are 100s of models of each unit. Most volt readers give their specs in their paperwork. They are correct with in 1% to 3% depending on which model you buy.
One thing nobody talks is time to stable measurement. I have an Agilent U1253A DMM that *bam* first number displayed is very fast and very accurate. The last digit might walk 1 or 2 digits, or it might not, after that. The cheaper DMMs always take a long time to approach a voltage you can trust as stable.
Get a Fluke because it's not a fluke.
Thanks for the suggestion.
"From happy to snappy". I'm going to have to remember that one. Honestly, for $27 the Channelock is hard to beat.
and USA made always!
Seriously...reasonable price, good performance, and made in the US. Hard to wrong with their stuff
My thoughts exactly. Channellock tools are a great value and made in USA too
Thanks for the feedback.
Check out the Channellock 546 slip joint, for some reason Channellock makes them hard to find but mechanics will tell you it's their most often go to tool.
Here in Germany Hazet tools are very common and they claim to be the gold standard for wrenches, pliers, bits and seemingly everything else. I would be very happy if you could include this brand in your tests to see whether this claim is true. Greetings from Germany! Great channel, I enjoy your videos as well as the efforts you put into them, very much.
Thanks so much! Thanks for the suggestion.
I never heard of Hazet tools so I looked them up, holy cow they are expensive.
Does Hazet have tool trucks that visit garages to make it easy for the mechanics to buy their tools, that's what Snap-On does?
@@bigredc222 snappy carries Hazet tools
@@g63836611 I can't even figure out what snappy sells. I went to the site and I couldn't get past the first page without giving them personal info. What is it?
@@bigredc222 snap-on not snappy
"Riveted joint for no wobble""
Immediately followed by
"Has a small amount of handle wobble"
LOL
lol. I like the Doyle brand a lot but every pair of Doyle pliers I've purchased does have handle wobble.
@@ProjectFarm I have an awesome Video Suggestion:
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A tiny amount of wobble isn't an issue if the shears are designed to be offering a straight cut when the wobble is absorbed under load. If the joint is sticky then it's making the tool a lot harder to work with.
@@ProjectFarm I got a good laugh at the Fujita pliers a tool that you can get the job done with and eat on your lunch break😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love these comparisons. Nobody does it better. Makes me feel sad for the rest. A while back,I bought Vamplier "screw extraction" pliers. I ended up using them for something I hadn't expected. Had a screw embedded in a tire. Couldn't get it out to save my life until I remembered the Vampliers. With the Vampliers it was fairly easy.
Thank you!
Tax Man: "Mr Farm, you're writing of a dozen pairs of pliers."
Project Farm: "Yes sir."
TM: "...As a business expense?"
PF: "Yes sir."
TM: "You mind explaining that to me?"
PF: "Can I?! Hold on, I've got spread sheets!"
TM: "...As a business expense?"
PF: Yes sir!"
TM: "We're gonna test that!"
Haha
@@TheBearsCorner 🤦🏻♂️😅🤣👍🏼
Tm: as a business expense?
Pf: yes sir.
Tm: mind explaining that?
Pf: *shows tm the channel*
Tm: I see, ok thank you have a nice day.
Your tests are the most thorough I've seen over the years. Many tools I purchase are based on your reviews and have not been disappointed yet. Would like to see battery operated sprayers for weeds and gardening.
Would love to see best nitrile gloves or best shop soap (lava/orange)
Stoko. Best hand soap. You're welcome.
Best soap is grip clean for sure
But would love these
Thanks for the video idea.
Vampliers are amazing at gripping and twisting rusty fasteners. I call them the "Scotty Kilmer pliers" 👍😁
Yep, that's what they're made for... beyond that, they're OK. A tool for a specific job, that can do a few others in a pinch.
I thought they did the best as well on this video.. But im a Dewalt kinda guy. But if ima get some pliers I'll get these.
That's true I was planning on getting a vamplaier so I kept my eyes on it but decided to get a channellock instead.
Hi Evan i think Japanese stuff hold up like nothing else does, i have used Japanese tools from the 80s and 90s and they still work perfectly fine.
Now I know why I've bought the Channellocks for over 40 years; best bang for the buck. I don't buy Chinese no matter what name is on the label if I don't have to, I support the US people and MFGs every chance I get. It's why I buy DeWalt power tools over Millwaukee, and Channellocks over anyone else.
Channel lock has always been a favorite. This test was very gripping 😁
lol Thanks for sharing.
My lineman pliers are my dad's Kline pliers from the early 1970s. He was an electrician and electrical technician and was a big believer in kline tools. Great video!
Thanks for sharing!
Anyone else watching these hoping their brand at least beats what they always hear is the best because it costs more? Channellocks are my go to
Channies are great, all their products are quality and good designs and reasonably priced
I have a lot of Channellock pliers. It's my "good" set. Are they the best? No. They're good enough for what I do though. Their linesmans did better than I thought they would here. But I don't have the model that was tested. I have old big rivet ones and one pair of box joint ones. They're model 349
it would strike in the heart if someone bought some snap ons for silly money and then they get beat by alot of other brands
Channellocks make nice tools and I consider them amongst the highest quality. Also nice they are made in the USA which makes them attractive to me as well.
I have a variety Channellocks, a few Knipex , a number of 40- 50 year old USA Cratfsman from my early days and a handful of others. One of those others are Vamplier "screw extraction" pliers. For that specific use, they are outstanding. But, generally, I am grabbing the Channellocks first.
testing different allen key brands would be good, i hate having them round over through use
Great idea!
We use Wera L keys when bolts starts to round. Cant go wrong with the hex plus
Every professional I've heard from says Bondhus, I picked up a pair and they feel great, I haven't had much use time with them yet.
its always the silver ones which round for me lol
Really becoming a fan of Channellock with the couple of products I own. Decent price for relatively high quality and US made.
This 100 times over.
Agree, Channellock tools have been a good choice and good value for the money for a long time. I'm still using a pair of their #420 arc joint pliers I bought over 40 years ago, they won't quit.
Channelock is one of those companies that just doesn’t make any junk, like 3M
Thanks for sharing.
You did an outstanding job of showing us the strengths and weaknesses of a broad array of pliers/cutters. Thank you.
Thanks and you are welcome!
The Japanese take a product and perfect it, while the Chinese take a product and make it as cheap as possible.
@tim is _EXACTLY_ right.
I'm buying the Channelocks.
that should read "the Chinese take a product and make it as cheap and nasty as possible..".....😀
People should start paying extra for quality. Instead of cheaping out for Chinese product. This means stop shopping at Walmart and support smaller local businesses, American made products, etc. Stop shopping at Walmart and Amazon.
Or rather, the Chinese take a product and build it to the price point offered by the Japanese or Western company that contracted them to make the product.
They make it identical until u use it *CRRRAACKKKK*
Over my 32 years of being electrician I went through many Klein Tools pliers, had some Channellock and Irwin as backup, recently discovered Knipex and loved them. Have no complaints about Kleins. Irwin perform well first couple of months, trash after that . Channellocks just don’t feel as comfortable for a tool that’s being used every day for hours. Knipex are just pleasure to use
How do feel about Klein vs Channelock?
@@americanpatriot2999 Klein is superior. This video is very interesting and all of this technical parameters is fun and all. But in the end it’s all about how it feels to work with, how it feels in your hand. Honestly if I could afford to buy new pliers every month, I’d go with Irwin cause they feel great but quality of steel just doesn’t hold too long
Thanks for sharing.
As I explained last time, as a German speaker, it's NYE-PEX, just like the word KNIFE - listening to him mispronounce it Ka-nip-pex over and over was PAINFUL! - The "K" is silent, this is not a hard concept!!
Journeyman 2000! Forever
It's not about how well it cuts the first screw, but the second
I have been buying Channellock for 20 years....thought about getting a Knipex....you convinced me to stay with Channellock
Thanks
Thanks for the feedback.
Harbor freight you never cease to amaze me 💪
The Doyle pliers are a great value!
i find if you know its a tool you might use once in a while, say a home diy person that might need it for a project a couple times a year, nothing really beats harbor freight in value. Or if you want a mobile toolkit that if stolen, or if a tool breaks it wont make you cry from the price (yes warranties exist, but those can be a pain)
@@jjjacer as a mechanic, 90% of my tool box is icon tools from harbor freight. They outlast the snap-on tools others in my shop use, and if anything breaks I take it to the nearest harbor freight and get a new one free of charge.
@@hanksadventures4132 i have not tried their icon brand, most of my hand tools where the previous lower end Pittsburg brand. which are still going strong, but as noted i dont use then often
@@jjjacer yeah, I use some of the Pittsburgh sockets for my impact, and they are still going strong. As for pliers and screw drivers, the Pittsburgh just fall apart. Honestly, the biggest benefit to buying the tools off of the trucks was the no questions asked warranty, but now with craftsman, Icon, and even Husky offering the same warranty, the quality comes into play. I'll stick with my Ingersoll Rand air tools and Icon has my money for hand tools. Snap-on has it with its scanner tho, can NOT beat that outside of for-scan for ford vehicles.
always when i'm bored i will watch your videos ! And i don't feel bored anymore
Thank you very much!
There’s nothing like being on vacation in the Dominican Republic while I’m watching this clip and drinking a pina colada by the beach…………Hah, life is good.
Andy wins the internet today
😬👍
Thank you!
And then ordering up your Knipex plier set once back in your hotel room.
You should be a shame of your self ... :) I wish I was there ..enjoy
Most people don't know that some companies own several tool companies. take techtronic Industries (TTI) for example, they own: Milwaukee electric tool, Ryobi, AEG, Homelite, Empire, Stiletto, Hoover US, Hart, Orech,, Dirt Devil and Vax. Some of their tool designs seem identical between the brands, minus the color of the tool! Meaning the core parts have to be made from the same factory, yet the prices sometimes drastically differ! After all it was PT Barnum who taught the business world they should also be their own competition.
Thanks for the feedback.
Love your reviews. I would also enjoy a video expanding upon the “10 must have tools for the shop.”
Great idea! Thank you!
THIS
Maybe for hand tools and another for power and/or shop tools....? 🤔
@@ProjectFarm yes, let's have that ten tools list PF.
Wiha used to be my favourite brand back when all Wiha tools used to be made in Germany. Then they moved some of their manufacturing to Vietnam and I could never justify the price of the tools since. I just stick to known USA tool companies now. High quality and good prices, can't beat that.
Thanks for the feedback.
Wiha has different grades. Highest quality tools are still made in Germany, where as their mid grade is made in Vietnam.
Most of the German brands got cheap lines made in China, many people just wanna say: I got a Gedore ratchet and they buy them cheap
Red gedore everyone can afford, but compare it with blue gedore 😉 the blue ones last forever but they cost 20 times more
Same with Bosch: blue ones are expensive for professionals, the green ones for people they just wanna say: I got Bosch...
@@khap60 I'd buy that but I can't find lineman pliers on their site that are made in Germany. That being said, I recently bough the 3 piece insulated lineman/side cutter/pliers combo and am very happy with it. No PF-level abuse from my DIY activities! :D
Premium quality Wiha pliers are Swiss made.
If you did this for fishing gear, there wouldn’t be a market with people guessing.
Also a lot less debates between Shimano and diawa fanboys!
Abu reels all the way!
Thank you for the video idea!
@@queef_queen only the Ambassadors ;)
Also would love to see this. Okuma reels and St Croix rods all the way
Maybe fishing pliers. I would love to see a $200 pair of titanium pliers in the press!
As a person who has all Wiha pliers in all their forms I am staggered by this test they performed 4th or 5th from the bottom in all but the last test.
As a Chartered mechanical engineer the tests, although not carried out to laboratory standards, were well conceived and executed but more importantly carried out uniformly on all models with irrefutable evidence on the performance or lack of it on Wiha.
I hope you sent this to them although I am sure they would come back with a load of Bull about how the testing of their products is carried out to exacting standards etc etc.
Great test and I wish I had seen this 10 years ago I would have saved a shed load of money.
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
I would like to see a test of different brands of mold and stain remover for the bathroom or shower.
Brands to test:
Wet and forget
Mold armor
RMR-141 RTU sold on amazon
RMR-86
Clorox
Lysol
DampRid
Concribium
CLR
I think you will have to convince your wife and you to take longer showers!
Please remember to wear a respirator while testing the products so you are safe! Thanks
I second this a great suggestion for a video,!!
Thanks for the suggestion.
Nice to see the USA represent so nicely! Channellock tools have always been good. Their pliers have a nice price point too which is surprising for a quality, made in the USA tool!
Great video.
Another vote for Project Farm to do vise grips!
Channellocks 546 are awesome if you can find them.
Thanks for the feedback. Thanks for the suggestion.
This is one I've been looking forward to! Cult of Knipex, represent! 🤪
Realtalk: Unsurprised to see Engineer (Vampliers-that's who makes them) dominating the first two tests. Their design is utterly focused on gripping-especially gripping fasteners. The jaws are shaped specifically to hold a screw head!
Personally, I own a set of Knipexes and a set of Engineers. Unless someone steals my pliers, I don't expect I'll ever need another set.
Absolutely shocked by the Wihas. What a shame!
Thanks for the feedback.
It should also be pointed out that the green handled Engineer labeled version is typically a good bit cheaper than the Vampliers.
helpful as always, already own a set of channel lock pliers (various sizes) including the lineman. They never let me down, much like your test videos. Thanks for your outstanding work.
You are welcome!
You took account of the play in rivet, but not the stickiness, which can be just annoying as, if not more than play during use. This is why I like Knipex pliers, generally no play and not too tight out of box.
Thanks for the feedback.
That's true but the stickyness can just about be fixed on any set of tools wing that rivet with some WD-40 and some elbow greese
Thanks! The test rig didn't convince me this time though. "Handles two inches apart" is not the way to go I think.
You'd want a pressure sensor on one of the handles, then measure out equal distance from the jaw pivot for all tools and at that point apply the sensor and pressure at good human grip strength.
I don't know how much that would affect the end results, but hey, just 2 cents :)
I was wondering about that myself. The only test I thought was valid this time around was the pressure to cut Romex wire. The rest of the stuff I wouldn't use linesmans to do. Linesmans pliers are just for wiring up solid wire. OK reaming conduit and pulling fish tape are valid uses too. Past that you're begging. Maybe holding a nut while you're tightening a screw too? That's an edge use case though. Smashing a cockroach as it's scuttling past.
@Frugal Family Living the big factor in leverage is how close to the pivot point you can get the jaws. Half the pliers that failed here did so because they really pushed what could be done there. Either that little snap by the pivot or the pivot itself breaking. Most folks do not have a few hundred pounds of grip strength though.
I came here to say this. The first two tests are totally invalid. It would depend on the handle shape, the stiffness of the rubberized coating etc. It needed an actual pressure measurement, not a distance.
It was an unusually big oversight, for sure! But PF is not a joke, whilst being grounded in the physical world, I'm sure the guy will take all this as constructive dialogue :)
@@jaakkopontinen Agreed. I believe he does a huge service to our community.
PF, you demonstrated to me that which I had believed: When I bought my toolset about six years ago, I did but Channellock pliers for the you know, channel pliers which allow you to grip at different sizes. A Crescent brand wrench as the adjustable plier (lost it a few weeks ago and I'm heartbroken. 😥) Craftsman locking pliers and screwdrivers and Swiss tools hex wrenches. None of them have EVER let me down (except for that Crescent wrench which snuck away lol!) Love them all and I will replace with the same if I can! I think Channellock makes some of the best pliers out there!
A good test of lineman pliers is what I used them for when running a welding school toolroom. We cut TIG filler in half before handing it out (consumables are costly so they were rationed) and that meant hundreds of cuts through 3/32 and 1/8 stainless and carbon TIG wire.
While individuals could cut by hand no way was I getting carpal tunnel so I tack welded a Klein lineman plier to some plate and clamped that to the bench. I slid some stainless tubing over the other handle for leverage.
I used that Klein for months before the contract ended and I moved on. It's still there years later. Lineman pliers kind of suck as pliers but do well as cutters. The models with splice crimpers on the inboard side of the jaws are much handier than the plain style.
Thanks for sharing.
Look how dirty the cheapo pliers are right out of the package!
oil
I hate that. It’s gross when you get machine oil all over your fingers after shopping at american hardware stores.
I think they do it to combat rust on the shelf and during their journey here.
Don’t buy it. It’s that simple. Buy US Made … el cheapo!
@@jenkinssthomson8879 Simply Buy good Pliers, doesn't have to be made in US
Vampliers need another inch of handle an millimeter of leverage to take world's best pliers title
The downside in this comparison is that linemans are intended to be used in electrical work and the jaws are built for that purpose. Vampliers are not linemans pliers, theyre specialized fastner removal pliers. They (engineer plier co) already are the best in their category.
Why use both imperial and Metric? Makes no sense. And did you mean to type ''And millimeter'' or ''A millimeter''?
@@Masterfighterx oooooooooooo
@@Masterfighterx oooooooooooo
Thanks for the feedback.
I would like to see a test on impact drivers, like how long one brand can run on full throttle before it burns up, or something to do with which one burns out first.
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Project Farm has already performed tests, but they may be revised if there is sufficient demand.
Thank you for the video idea!
i wanna see two different scenarios like full throttle on low load high speed (comparable to drilling and driving small screws), and another test of endless full throttle on heavy loads (like driving large lags or running a large auger bit, but drilliing would probably be more suited for a drill)
@@maxlee6676 yes that is what I had in mind
I enjoy your tool comparison videos for a while now. However, in most cases it comes down to personal comfort when I select a tool. As in case of adjustable wrenches, hammes, or side-cut pliers. It's nice to know the weak points of these tools. But as most tradesmen, I do not stress my tools to limit of failure. For me, it comes down to comfort, reliability and finish. As a master plumber, Channellock is my preferred brand of pliers and adjustable wrenches (black Spain), Husky - diamond tip screwdrivers and socket stuff, Ridgid pipe tools and sewer equipment, Milwaukee cordled and 12v. Makita (spline) never disappointed in the chipping hammer category and Bosch SDS has been amazing for me. I do benefit from your wearable item content such as drill bits and cut blades. I highly regard your practical testing setups & objective reviews. Keep up the good work! 👌
Project Farm has a new video out?
We're gonna watch that!
Thank you very much!
I've always liked Channel Lock hand tools. Most of my Channel Lock tools are nearly 30 years old and are still performing like new.
Thanks for sharing.
The Vampliers are like a fish climbing a tree. They’re specifically made as screw and fastener removal plier first, and a universal lineman plier second. I’d recommend them more to carpenters for pulling stuck screws and nails, which they excel at.
Thanks for the feedback.
yeah based on the tests it looks like A set of Vampliers along with the Channelocks would work well as they compliment each other.
100%, for my use, horizontal grip strength with the pliers having that design Ie a stuck nail where a claw hammer can't be used is far more useful. If you need to get a screw out a hard spot, just use needle nose vice grips
I'm a heavy equipment mechanic and I use them all the time best pliers I've ever had
They excel at removing stripped or seized fasteners
Did you measure the grip strength at ~ 100 PSI for each set of pliers for the tests? I ask because using a handle "squeeze" distance of 2" for all pliers would only be comparable if the distance from the claw to the fulcrum AND the distance from the fulcrum to the end of the handle AND the resting gap at the end of the handle was the same, which you eluded to later in the video. I think you demonstrated the differences in configurations by the wire cutting test...which indicates the configuration is different enough to warrant a repeat of the first two tests ensuring the "grip" is consistent throughout all pliers tested. I also noticed on the last set of pliers on the first test had etching on the shaft of the socket extender...this could also play a factor on grip strength if some pliers were oriented to bite into the etching vs. other pliers. The hydraulic press tests are well done and provide great information!
I like Project Farm videos but this is or any other videos I've watched are truly scientific in the modern sense of the words.
I own several of these and use them each for their unique abilities. Since I do not abuse my tools by trying to use them as they were not designed (cutting nails, screws or hardened tools), I tend not to break them. My Channellocks work great at cutting large wire/cable, they however suck at grasping and twisting items...that's where the Vamps shine. Great/thorough video, as always! I do look forward to seeing more!
“From happy to snappy” sounds a lot like my ex.
Pretty sure that sounds like A LOT of people Ex’s lol. Sure does for mine.
Shjt
more like snappy to snappier
We're gonna test that! 😁
Great comment!! 😆
I know the videos 2 years old but id love to see Crescent tested. They've recently expanded their line and have some very nice (and beautiful looking) hand tools
Thanks for the suggestion.
For as long as I can remember, us Southerners have pronounced Knipex "Ny-pex" and it sounds so strange when I hear someone say it the way it's actually supposed to be pronounced haha
Great video, yet again!
Kuh-nip-x
Thanks!
I say it like you do
k isn't silent in german like it is in English apparently?
@@mikethetoolman8776 good to know, thank you