It‘s intended that they don‘t close completely. The lock secures the dangerous part, the cable shear. But even if locked you can still crimp or strip wires. They way you strip the thick earth cable is the way they recommend removing the sheath of NYM cable. I have two, one at work and one at home.
Jordan honestly the best pair of electrical pliers full stop. I have been using them for 8 months and they are just superb I use them for stripping and cutting mostly. The point edge outside can also be used for deburring metal conduit. Having said that I have a pair of CK side cutting pliers which I brought about 14 years ago from the U.K. when I moved to the states and they are still going strong and work on US wire gauges. I have 35 different pairs of insulated knipex pliers doing lots of different things. My favorite is the knipex insulated linesman pliers it’s a heavy duty monster that eats up wire manipulation. I also use the flat nose pliers for holding and manipulating wire in a socket/receptacle and straightening wires out without damaging the insulation.
@Math Man Since I’m in North America and that means I have to deal with Marettes (wire nuts) my list is a little different. Felo (NWS) lineman‘s pliers Knipex installation pliers CK 160mm side cutters/strippers
I have a pair of these, they are so well built and make my life so much easier. Also the edges of the pliers are some what Sharp and are used for deburring round holes.
I have them, and honestly, I haven't touched any other pliers ever since (except for the Knipex Pliers-Wrench, which is perfect for the glands I use, sometimes hex bolts here and there). As for the Twin-And-CPC stripping... well, UK is indeed the USA of Europe when it comes to weird stuff (cf. hot/cold taps, ring circuits, etc) - while Knipex pliers are designed in the Land of Logic. They have no humour, but at least they don't fool around with out-of-standard weird stuff xD
Superb tool , I have the VDE , and comfort grip ones . FYI , the latch is designed so it can grab stuff , without exposing the blades , ie: grabbing a fish tape , or some such !
I love mine, second pair I've owned, I lost my first pair which didn't have the latching mechanism, I bought my second pair without hesitation and with the latching mechanism which I find gives me better control when stripping loads of wires.
Used my new pair for 1st time today in a control box at work...they’ve already justified the £40 I paid for them instantly and well happy with them. Wish I had brought these ages ago! (Beats having to carry long nose & side cutters)
@@Tools4Sparks This made me think, Jordan. I haven't tried these installation pliers, but I predicted that if I needed to cut or strip conductors in a tight space, it would be a bit tricky with these considering how far down the cutters are. For that reason I still use CK side cutters with 1.5 and 2.5 trimming slots and a neat little slot behind the pivot for tidily doubling over (as and when the need arises) along with a pair of Knipex long nose pliers. It means constantly switching tools, but cutting in tight spaces is easy. Any thoughts?
I just ordered one a few minutes ago. I have about 20+ Knipex tools, I use them as a diy user and hobby. Upgraded almost all pliers to Knipex + other tools. The screwdrivers are being upgraded to Wera unfortunately Knipex doesn't make their screwdrivers as good as Wera or PB Swiss but they are quite expensive.
Most useful pair of pliers I own. Factor in the outstanding quality of Knipex and all I can say is if you haven't got a pair then remedy that ASAP - you won't regret it
6mm t+e is no problem to cut through. I haven't tried 10mm 6242Y. I have used the ferrules and it does work well. You are right that arent goid for stripping T+E, I use Ck Redline side cutters which have the stripping tool on anyway
Hi Jordan, It does seem to cut Ok. My CK side cutter will do that and strip. Also cut into the end of T + E to get to the CPC . Not sure it is worth the money ! Tony
The catch to keep them closed I have found is quite handy when closed for gripping and removing cables from a compact consumer unit for doing R1R2 tests and Ze for testing when you dont want the jaws to go wide.
I'm in maintenance and find the great for terminating lots of control wiring does the job of many different tools in one. I have the the blue and red handled pair with the black finish and the spring they got abit wet and have some surface rush so something to watch out for. Only problem I have with them is the width of the plier it is very narrow and if you have to twist cables of any size bigger than .75 together is pretty much useless.
I've been using a pair for over a year now and wouldn't be without them; still need a pair of snips to cut and strip those wires in tight spots though.
Knipex at it again they just cant stop re-inventing the wheel.. lol and i dont wamt them to..! By far they are pure craftsmenship, elegant quality you always get what you pay for with them.. great vid man..
I think the latch function is perfect, because it opens the pliers enough for nearly all jobs, and it would be hard to grab and close when needed, if it always was fully open. And when latched it can’t cut your test leads in the tool bag
Great video buddy!! The only thing that is preventing me buying that, is the nose looks too skinny to neatly twist stranded (7 strands) cable after stripping. Any chance you could try that ? Cheers ( Australia).
They do a standard version of these without the spring and latch in a black and in the chromed I have the black non spring and the chrome spring version they are good but won't replace a pair of side cutters
It's based on cable shears, so it cuts whole cables much better than diagonal cutters. But for cutting single wires I also prefer a diagonal cutter. The NWS installation pliers got a diagonal cutter instead.
Two things, 1: I prefer to not have my wire strippers spring loaded. I feel like I have more control over the pliers if they aren't pushing back. 2: you should check out Milwaukee's combo plier strippers. They are similar, as they allow you to strip and cut wires, they have a good needle nose tip, but they can also be used to ream the inside of metal conduit. Also, they are made out of tool steel so you can cut tinned wire without the cutter getting dull.
Always open because it makes them easier to use. If closed it involves two actions. One to open then one to grip. As designed, it’s only one action...grip. 👍
I brought the same set myself mainly for the ferrules and after other videos with people having them, they cut through 6mm twin like a knife through butter
Off topic but maybe helpful to you : I’m among other things a pretty good leather worker , I would be honoured to make Oscar a safe sheath for his Knipex cable knife . I own a similar device ( same handle double edged blade ) . I can make it so it will ride on a belt , or hang from a ‘D’ ring on his Veto pouch . The stock blade guards aren’t very long lasting , and are easily lost ! If you are interested , I can send a picture of my rig , to the email of your choice ! Pro Bono , I take safety of new guys very seriously !
@Bulldozer I disagree on that one. We often use words with a silent "h" to "stretch" a vocal like in "Wahl" or "Zahl". You do not pronounce it explicitly. It's written "Zahl" but you say "Zaal" not "Za-H-l". But maybe there are some local differences in the pronunciation? People from Duisburg say "Düssbuach" so you have a silent "r" as well ;)
For all that money and all that alleged quality and innovation and wonderfulness, WHY NO ROMEX CUTTER? ..a $20 Milwaukee 6 in 1 has been in my bag for years because of it.
I do like that you are doing these videos but you would have benefited by watching the 3min knipex video on these. It does explain a lot about how they work. ruclips.net/video/Fjxj2eJkxZE/видео.html I have both the sprung and the unsprung. I prefer the unsprung myself as i can use all the functions from muscle memory. But the sprung version with that clip engaged hold the tool so that you can use all of the stripping and forward tools while keeping the shears closed and thus safe when performing stripping actions where you put your fingers close to the shears. Also, you will find that the lock only engages when you keep the lock facing upwards, if you turn the pliers over so the lock is facing down, it will stay disengaged and thus out of the way. They do take some getting used to but I have been using them for over a year and I use them a lot on install work but still use the knipex shears for rip out as they are far quicker and easier to use.
Another great video jordan.you truly are a charmer. I have a pair in my pouch. i don't really use them as they are so foreign to my croppers.Also with bending over the cables i only do that to 1.5mm or lower and only do it with my fingers this is due to the amount of cables i find broken in consumer units.This is far from a dig as everybody bends there cables over.i will explain more in my next video. Sexy strippers inspired by yourself i really enjoyed your take on cable strippers.
Their ok... these are designed for round European cables and pattress imo. No good for stripping T&E sheath and there’s also a certain amount of flex at the nose end which I don’t like. A result of their length no doubt. These are a good partner for a pair of side cutters. There’s my unpopular opinion 😂😂. Jordan - if you haven’t already get a pair of Draper ergo plus 7 in 1 pliers (£32 tool station) to try out, their made by Orbis (who manufacture for many others) and are much more the ticket for dealing with T&E than these things - bit of a bargain as well I think.
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It‘s intended that they don‘t close completely. The lock secures the dangerous part, the cable shear. But even if locked you can still crimp or strip wires.
They way you strip the thick earth cable is the way they recommend removing the sheath of NYM cable.
I have two, one at work and one at home.
Jordan honestly the best pair of electrical pliers full stop. I have been using them for 8 months and they are just superb I use them for stripping and cutting mostly. The point edge outside can also be used for deburring metal conduit. Having said that I have a pair of CK side cutting pliers which I brought about 14 years ago from the U.K. when I moved to the states and they are still going strong and work on US wire gauges. I have 35 different pairs of insulated knipex pliers doing lots of different things. My favorite is the knipex insulated linesman pliers it’s a heavy duty monster that eats up wire manipulation. I also use the flat nose pliers for holding and manipulating wire in a socket/receptacle and straightening wires out without damaging the insulation.
@Math Man
Since I’m in North America and that means I have to deal with Marettes (wire nuts) my list is a little different.
Felo (NWS) lineman‘s pliers
Knipex installation pliers
CK 160mm side cutters/strippers
The Truth good choice
I have a pair of these, they are so well built and make my life so much easier. Also the edges of the pliers are some what Sharp and are used for deburring round holes.
Nice
I have them, and honestly, I haven't touched any other pliers ever since (except for the Knipex Pliers-Wrench, which is perfect for the glands I use, sometimes hex bolts here and there). As for the Twin-And-CPC stripping... well, UK is indeed the USA of Europe when it comes to weird stuff (cf. hot/cold taps, ring circuits, etc) - while Knipex pliers are designed in the Land of Logic. They have no humour, but at least they don't fool around with out-of-standard weird stuff xD
Superb tool , I have the VDE , and comfort grip ones . FYI , the latch is designed so it can grab stuff , without exposing the blades , ie: grabbing a fish tape , or some such !
I got me the 13 86 200 - these but without the lock. It didn’t feel like something I wanted.
Simply put, these are AWESOME! Saves time, and more importantly space
I love mine, second pair I've owned, I lost my first pair which didn't have the latching mechanism, I bought my second pair without hesitation and with the latching mechanism which I find gives me better control when stripping loads of wires.
Been using them for two years! No problems
Also, have you mentioned that the 4 sharp edges on the nose are designed to be used as de-burring files on junction boxes? :)
Used my new pair for 1st time today in a control box at work...they’ve already justified the £40 I paid for them instantly and well happy with them. Wish I had brought these ages ago! (Beats having to carry long nose & side cutters)
Awesome
@@Tools4Sparks This made me think, Jordan. I haven't tried these installation pliers, but I predicted that if I needed to cut or strip conductors in a tight space, it would be a bit tricky with these considering how far down the cutters are. For that reason I still use CK side cutters with 1.5 and 2.5 trimming slots and a neat little slot behind the pivot for tidily doubling over (as and when the need arises) along with a pair of Knipex long nose pliers. It means constantly switching tools, but cutting in tight spaces is easy. Any thoughts?
I have the same and this is one of the best items in my toolbox.
wouldn't be without mine , took awhile to get used to but they are my go to pliers/cutters now .
I just ordered one a few minutes ago. I have about 20+ Knipex tools, I use them as a diy user and hobby. Upgraded almost all pliers to Knipex + other tools. The screwdrivers are being upgraded to Wera unfortunately Knipex doesn't make their screwdrivers as good as Wera or PB Swiss but they are quite expensive.
Most useful pair of pliers I own.
Factor in the outstanding quality of Knipex and all I can say is if you haven't got a pair then remedy that ASAP - you won't regret it
I think as you was saying that it doesn’t lock all the way is really just for the blade to stop ppl from cutting themselves.
Apparently they are a bit cumbersome in tight places like consumer units when cables are short
6mm t+e is no problem to cut through. I haven't tried 10mm 6242Y.
I have used the ferrules and it does work well.
You are right that arent goid for stripping T+E, I use Ck Redline side cutters which have the stripping tool on anyway
Hi Jordan, It does seem to cut Ok. My CK side cutter will do that and strip. Also cut into the end of T + E to get to the CPC . Not sure it is worth the money ! Tony
How are these for twisting stranded wire
Had mine over a year ,Really like them 👍
Nice one
What do you guys think - this or 13-76-200ME? How often do you actually crimp? Which is more beneficial - crimper or more wire stripping options?
How are they as long nose pliers in tight spaces?
Getting a pair tomorrow, looking forward to using them !!
They are awesome! You won't regret it, takes a few days to get used to but I cant put them down now!
The catch to keep them closed I have found is quite handy when closed for gripping and removing cables from a compact consumer unit for doing R1R2 tests and Ze for testing when you dont want the jaws to go wide.
I'm in maintenance and find the great for terminating lots of control wiring does the job of many different tools in one. I have the the blue and red handled pair with the black finish and the spring they got abit wet and have some surface rush so something to watch out for. Only problem I have with them is the width of the plier it is very narrow and if you have to twist cables of any size bigger than .75 together is pretty much useless.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Guess the close to closed clip is for working with the smaller stuff 🤔 just a first viewing thought 💭!👍
Yes you’re right it is! 👏
I've been using a pair for over a year now and wouldn't be without them; still need a pair of snips to cut and strip those wires in tight spots though.
Yep you’re right! Thanks
Knipex at it again they just cant stop re-inventing the wheel.. lol and i dont wamt them to..! By far they are pure craftsmenship, elegant quality you always get what you pay for with them.. great vid man..
Couldn't agree more!
I think the latch function is perfect, because it opens the pliers enough for nearly all jobs, and it would be hard to grab and close when needed, if it always was fully open. And when latched it can’t cut your test leads in the tool bag
Yeah it’s great!
You want a better pair? Get the new Knipex Forged Wire Strippers! should be released & available in a few days
Not Insulated to VDE though
Will this pliers work stripping 12 and 14 awg wire?
They have an imperial version available in the US.
Can the crimping function be used on through crimps or just ferrules
My 2 year old saw me watching this and brought over his new toy pliers. Ha ha.
Awesome!
❤
Great video buddy!!
The only thing that is preventing me buying that, is the nose looks too skinny to neatly twist stranded (7 strands) cable after stripping.
Any chance you could try that ? Cheers ( Australia).
This was my same concern too! Any updates on how these perform at that? Australia too!
It would not be fully closed, so you could used some of the features like stripping wires. As far as I can get out of it by just looking at it.
They do a standard version of these without the spring and latch in a black and in the chromed
I have the black non spring and the chrome spring version they are good but won't replace a pair of side cutters
It's based on cable shears, so it cuts whole cables much better than diagonal cutters. But for cutting single wires I also prefer a diagonal cutter. The NWS installation pliers got a diagonal cutter instead.
Nice thanks
What is between the crimp part and the 1.5 mm stripper part?
I have the normal version. If it had a set of regular crimpers at the base and m3 and m4 screw cutters it would be even better
So if you need side cutters to strip the T+E , what is the point of these, you'll be carrying round two tools to strip one cable which is ridiculous
Two things, 1: I prefer to not have my wire strippers spring loaded. I feel like I have more control over the pliers if they aren't pushing back. 2: you should check out Milwaukee's combo plier strippers. They are similar, as they allow you to strip and cut wires, they have a good needle nose tip, but they can also be used to ream the inside of metal conduit. Also, they are made out of tool steel so you can cut tinned wire without the cutter getting dull.
Why he’s got the knipex version which is far superior
Always open because it makes them easier to use. If closed it involves two actions. One to open then one to grip. As designed, it’s only one action...grip. 👍
I brought the same set myself mainly for the ferrules and after other videos with people having them, they cut through 6mm twin like a knife through butter
You forgot to mention that the square front end is for reaming conduit.
See knippex 13 01 160 electricians pliers on Amazon.
Not only conduit, you can also ream the boxes if the plaster guys meant it too good and the plaster is protruding too far into the box.
I've just ordered a pair from Amazon 👍
Awesome
my opinion is that for pliers,any type crimping,cutting,etc you go for CK or WIHA...knipex on the other hand they are best on streapping wires...
I agree
Link buy ???
Are you Jordan from Artisan Electric?
Love my ck combi 3👍
Off topic but maybe helpful to you : I’m among other things a pretty good leather worker , I would be honoured to make Oscar a safe sheath for his Knipex cable knife . I own a similar device ( same handle double edged blade ) . I can make it so it will ride on a belt , or hang from a ‘D’ ring on his Veto pouch . The stock blade guards aren’t very long lasting , and are easily lost ! If you are interested , I can send a picture of my rig , to the email of your choice ! Pro Bono , I take safety of new guys very seriously !
I do like the look of those
Price please
Gary loves his PVC PVC twin and CPC alright 👍 🙂
The company Knipex is from Germany so the "K" isn't silent ;)
@Bulldozer I disagree on that one. We often use words with a silent "h" to "stretch" a vocal like in "Wahl" or "Zahl". You do not pronounce it explicitly. It's written "Zahl" but you say "Zaal" not "Za-H-l".
But maybe there are some local differences in the pronunciation?
People from Duisburg say "Düssbuach" so you have a silent "r" as well ;)
@Bulldozer We have a silent "e" too. Like in "Tier" for example. We wirte "Tier" but say "Tiir". We use the "e" to stretch the "i".
Nobody says the k in the UK , we go along with the silent k syndrome :)
We are English the K is silent
Must have these!
The best tools of the world 🇧🇷
For all that money and all that alleged quality and innovation and wonderfulness, WHY NO ROMEX CUTTER? ..a $20 Milwaukee 6 in 1 has been in my bag for years because of it.
Look very well engineered as usual.
Looks a bit long 🤔 Have you ever tried those Ergonomic VDE pliers ?
No I haven’t!
I do like that you are doing these videos but you would have benefited by watching the 3min knipex video on these. It does explain a lot about how they work. ruclips.net/video/Fjxj2eJkxZE/видео.html
I have both the sprung and the unsprung. I prefer the unsprung myself as i can use all the functions from muscle memory. But the sprung version with that clip engaged hold the tool so that you can use all of the stripping and forward tools while keeping the shears closed and thus safe when performing stripping actions where you put your fingers close to the shears. Also, you will find that the lock only engages when you keep the lock facing upwards, if you turn the pliers over so the lock is facing down, it will stay disengaged and thus out of the way.
They do take some getting used to but I have been using them for over a year and I use them a lot on install work but still use the knipex shears for rip out as they are far quicker and easier to use.
Another great video jordan.you truly are a charmer. I have a pair in my pouch. i don't really use them as they are so foreign to my croppers.Also with bending over the cables i only do that to 1.5mm or lower and only do it with my fingers this is due to the amount of cables i find broken in consumer units.This is far from a dig as everybody bends there cables over.i will explain more in my next video. Sexy strippers inspired by yourself i really enjoyed your take on cable strippers.
Thanks Will
Mmmmmm they look rather cool
Yes they are!
Their ok... these are designed for round European cables and pattress imo. No good for stripping T&E sheath and there’s also a certain amount of flex at the nose end which I don’t like. A result of their length no doubt. These are a good partner for a pair of side cutters. There’s my unpopular opinion 😂😂. Jordan - if you haven’t already get a pair of Draper ergo plus 7 in 1 pliers (£32 tool station) to try out, their made by Orbis (who manufacture for many others) and are much more the ticket for dealing with T&E than these things - bit of a bargain as well I think.
Check nws and felo company
👍👍 From me Jordan
🖐
I recognize that voice 😂
Yea ...R Davis or Cory from willys electrical plc 😂
On my want list... 👍
Not designed for housebashing
What would you use?
probably the bees knees for solid wire, but anything automotive you cant strip with these sort of pliers so no good for me
That's why they call them installation pliers ;-)
I’m a gardener they look rubbish for cutting the grass too, they will take far too long.
Haha
KA-NIP-EX
YES----INDEED.
The only way to go is Klein tools knipex sucks, no comparison
way to long
First?