Mate, I’ve done this for years now! I just use a little dab of polyurethane adhesive, also helps slipping them on. Pretty much threw the channel locks away. Could definitely be a market for aftermarket grips, designed for this purpose!!!
You should make a video of the pulling pal. They're just cable pulleys but no one in Australia sells them. Super underated, I've been using them for a few months and they're elite
Apparently I’ve heard of different glues deteriorating the insulation. I just wrapped a layer of electrical tape around my handles before smacking the grips back on and I’ve never had mine slip off. Done it with every pair of my channels from new.
@@AddictedtoTools yeah my channel lock cutters came locked up brand new in the package and no amount of wd 40, 3 in oil or grease could get them to loosen up much. ps I’m big fan of your page from Sydney
@anthonynakhoul6522 damn! I haven’t had that yet but I had at least 3 pairs all lock up and couldn’t fix them. Multiple people have told me the same thing. It’s a shame, the older versions were awesome. Thanks for following. I hope you have a good weekend
@@AddictedtoToolsI've a few laying around. But they never locked up like that. Mostly just worn out or blew them up. I work around some rough (highly corrosive) conditions and use my original apprentice set of channellocks (late 00s) as my dailies and they've outlasted everything else that I took there originally. They're pretty dull now days, but I'm kind of scared to replace them they've served me so well. I do give everything a good clean and lube at least monthly though. And installed extra doors on my toolboxes, which has helped considerably with the rest of my gear.
@@Jayde.S Yeah it was made by marvel, commissioned by wattmaster but discontinued back in 2018/19. I think a wholesaler in the northern beaches had some until recently but they are now quite rare. Really nice handle
Would they actually be officially rated to 1000 volts? I get that they probably do afford the same protection, but would the governing bodies accept these pliers are 1000 volt rated? I'm into them regardless. I'm just curious.
It’s a great point and something I should have said. To have the rating they would need to be tested. So no one would warrant them for 1000v. It would just be an assumption.
Thats fair enough. Any reason? Too tight or different heads or something? I'm no electrician & have only used cheap pliers in the past but I've loved my Wihas.
VDE 1000V rating is a sales gimmick there isn't a situation where you will be accidentally stripping with thes types of pliers, more than a live 3 phase 415v AC cable, which would short across the metal of the pliers and in the unlikely event 1 phase remains live, and you still have functional pliers to continue with, the insulation of the marvel pliers that has been protecting Electrician long before VDE was a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Back in the 80s we only had marvel or crescent, when channel locks came along I bought a pair to try them, but it became apparent that the pointless knobs got in the way as found no situation where I could slide off the insulated handles and onto the metal. The unnecessary extra thickness of insulation to achieve a 1000v rating made them bulky, the rubbery softness and grip pattern would drag and catch in the hand when spinning the pliers to twist cable where the thinner smother marvel grip would spin freely. As you also spin your pliers to twist cables instead of the grip n twist method, I thought you might have noticed the difference or maybe if you have larger hands that the slimmer marvel grip make the pliers to thin. Either way changing grips for 1000v rating is completely unnecessary whereas more for a personal preference of grip and how you use them the thickness, rubbery or smoothness should be the reason for destroying perfectly good grips. Lets hope that the designer of the marvel grips, that hasn't changed in all the following decades didn't live to see this video.
@matty_isthemotto8378 There might be a reasoned opinion from decades in the industry that points out a reason for doing this, just not for VDE rating. Replying with your personal account instead of the channel account was an interesting choice, unless it's a coincidence you're both named matt.
Thanks for the input mate. I changed the handles because I like the channellock handles. I’m not sure why the designer would mind. Pliers are a very subjective thing. Everyone has different preferences. When it comes to the 1000v rating. It’s just piece of mind knowing that they are rated. If you’re not used to the handles, it will feel different. For myself there’s other pliers I struggle to use while others can. Cheers
@AddictedtoTools you're welcome. The designer thing was a joke about the designer being upset about hearing you call his handle design not that good then cutting it off. It would be interesting to find out why marvel in decades have from their pinch cuts to there crosscut not changed the grip design.
1000v rated tools are a joke anyway. They dont fit in tool belts and they blow up the same. It would have to be some kind of freak accident for you to get a shock through your pliers handles anyway.
If you want to lube up the Handel, use some hairspray... its slippy while wet but then sets like glue... also use it on bike grips !
Mate, I’ve done this for years now! I just use a little dab of polyurethane adhesive, also helps slipping them on. Pretty much threw the channel locks away. Could definitely be a market for aftermarket grips, designed for this purpose!!!
If you do end up gluing them, can you do us a solid and document the process? Really appreciate this video you LEGEND!
Second this, keen to do it to my set
@@tomwhitehead3352 Did this a few weeks ago and didn't use any glue, the grips haven't moved at all!
@@jakeyh27yeah cool, good to know! Did you have to wreck the marvel grips to get them off too?
You should make a video of the pulling pal. They're just cable pulleys but no one in Australia sells them. Super underated, I've been using them for a few months and they're elite
Cheers for the idea mate. Where did you get them? Imported?
Apparently I’ve heard of different glues deteriorating the insulation. I just wrapped a layer of electrical tape around my handles before smacking the grips back on and I’ve never had mine slip off. Done it with every pair of my channels from new.
ive been running marvellocks for years. my favourite
"Franken-pliers" love it 👌👌
Can u please do a video of the difference between the wattmaster yellow insulated cross cuts and the marvels? (cut/strip) overall feel?
How to fix crosscuts that are stuck? Possibly copper stuck inside
Marvelocks are the best done it for over a year now
Get the wiha cross cuts mate.. they got it both
To get the pliers from never coming off wrap a about 5 or 6 layers of eletrical tape on the inside and put back the insulated handles trust me
I think these plier companies should release handles as a spare part. For safety reasons. It’s always the good pair we love we blow up. Lol
G'day, Great work, Channel lock are great feel handles 👍👍
Gotta do the diagnal cutters for knipex
These look mint, will definitely do this
Keen to try the wattmaster tho
I’m going to give this a crack, great idea!
Yeah I’m doing this I have a few channel locks lying around
Do you have a few channellocks because they started to lock up also?
@@AddictedtoTools yeah my channel lock cutters came locked up brand new in the package and no amount of wd 40, 3 in oil or grease could get them to loosen up much.
ps I’m big fan of your page from Sydney
@anthonynakhoul6522 damn! I haven’t had that yet but I had at least 3 pairs all lock up and couldn’t fix them. Multiple people have told me the same thing. It’s a shame, the older versions were awesome.
Thanks for following. I hope you have a good weekend
@@AddictedtoTools you too buddy take care and look forward to seeing more of your videos in future
@@AddictedtoToolsI've a few laying around. But they never locked up like that. Mostly just worn out or blew them up. I work around some rough (highly corrosive) conditions and use my original apprentice set of channellocks (late 00s) as my dailies and they've outlasted everything else that I took there originally. They're pretty dull now days, but I'm kind of scared to replace them they've served me so well. I do give everything a good clean and lube at least monthly though. And installed extra doors on my toolboxes, which has helped considerably with the rest of my gear.
I reckon you should have used the blue Marvel handles, the ones that look identical to Channellocks but feel infinitely better.
where ya get them from? can't seem to find em
They don’t sell them anymore, that was for the MA880 series released by Wattmaster
The package was branded wattmaster but the pliers were definitely Marvel.
That's a shame, I kinda liked those.
@@Jayde.S Yeah it was made by marvel, commissioned by wattmaster but discontinued back in 2018/19.
I think a wholesaler in the northern beaches had some until recently but they are now quite rare.
Really nice handle
Have you tried the drill out trick for the stuck pliers?
Alot of people over here like the klein kotes grips you can buy them separate and just heat in hot water and hammer them on
Does it matter what size the marvels are when swapping. are they the 200mm or the 215 mm ?
if you used klein handles they would be “freakinklien” pliers 👌🏼🤣
Have you tried the whia cross cut pliers
Would they actually be officially rated to 1000 volts? I get that they probably do afford the same protection, but would the governing bodies accept these pliers are 1000 volt rated? I'm into them regardless. I'm just curious.
It’s a great point and something I should have said. To have the rating they would need to be tested. So no one would warrant them for 1000v. It would just be an assumption.
For those that have done this and used glue what glue did you use??? Or what is best to use?
I used blue plumbing glue
Hairspray is the go
Good on ya for having some fun, but I think they manufacture both sets of "Frankenstein" pliers
What
Can’t wait
Soooo you just made the Wiha cross cut pliers?
Not a fan of the wihas. The marvels are the og cross cuts👍
Thats fair enough. Any reason? Too tight or different heads or something?
I'm no electrician & have only used cheap pliers in the past but I've loved my Wihas.
The wihas are good and I know many that like them. They are just a little larger and also a wider grip. Good for those that like the bigger grips
Orrrr, the Wattmaster cross-cuts. They also have the same handles as channel locks (WATMVA200W).
Yeah that’s discussed in the viden
Use Hair Spray for glue bud!
VDE 1000V rating is a sales gimmick there isn't a situation where you will be accidentally stripping with thes types of pliers, more than a live 3 phase 415v AC cable, which would short across the metal of the pliers and in the unlikely event 1 phase remains live, and you still have functional pliers to continue with, the insulation of the marvel pliers that has been protecting Electrician long before VDE was a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Back in the 80s we only had marvel or crescent, when channel locks came along I bought a pair to try them, but it became apparent that the pointless knobs got in the way as found no situation where I could slide off the insulated handles and onto the metal. The unnecessary extra thickness of insulation to achieve a 1000v rating made them bulky, the rubbery softness and grip pattern would drag and catch in the hand when spinning the pliers to twist cable where the thinner smother marvel grip would spin freely.
As you also spin your pliers to twist cables instead of the grip n twist method, I thought you might have noticed the difference or maybe if you have larger hands that the slimmer marvel grip make the pliers to thin. Either way changing grips for 1000v rating is completely unnecessary whereas more for a personal preference of grip and how you use them the thickness, rubbery or smoothness should be the reason for destroying perfectly good grips.
Lets hope that the designer of the marvel grips, that hasn't changed in all the following decades didn't live to see this video.
Tldr but I'm sure there was something clever in there.
@matty_isthemotto8378 There might be a reasoned opinion from decades in the industry that points out a reason for doing this, just not for VDE rating.
Replying with your personal account instead of the channel account was an interesting choice, unless it's a coincidence you're both named matt.
Thanks for the input mate. I changed the handles because I like the channellock handles. I’m not sure why the designer would mind. Pliers are a very subjective thing. Everyone has different preferences. When it comes to the 1000v rating. It’s just piece of mind knowing that they are rated. If you’re not used to the handles, it will feel different. For myself there’s other pliers I struggle to use while others can. Cheers
The other commenter isn’t myself.
@AddictedtoTools you're welcome. The designer thing was a joke about the designer being upset about hearing you call his handle design not that good then cutting it off.
It would be interesting to find out why marvel in decades have from their pinch cuts to there crosscut not changed the grip design.
Awesome work Matty
Marvel are the best no doubt, they need to come out with 1000v rated tho 😢
Should have been easy to get the Channel Lock handles off, they fall off anyway.
1000v rated tools are a joke anyway. They dont fit in tool belts and they blow up the same. It would have to be some kind of freak accident for you to get a shock through your pliers handles anyway.
For Japanese pliers I never understood why the handle was such low quality