I Paid A Company To Analyze The Oil From My F30 335i... I Wish I Hadn't
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- The longer I own my N55 powered BMW F30 335i, the more issues I find. Sure buying a cheap BMW is always a gamble, but this one is a lot worse than I expected. Today we will go over the results of the oil analysis we sent over to Black Stone to see everything that is wrong my my clapper's engine. The results are strange to say the least.
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Do the rod bearing regardless of what anyone says on any n55, specially if ur going to add a good amount of boost. my stock rod bearing slipped at 29psi and 180k miles really good for n55 but I wish I changed it first tho.
Rod bearings should be changed every 80k.
29psi on a stock N55? That's risky business right there!
29 psi is quite a lot lol. My daily tune runs 20 psi on E85 and even I think that’s a lot
@@VehicleVirals Yeah it lasted for 3 dragy pulls and it spun. But I was on 27 psi for a year and roll raced almost every week it did perfictly fine. Just make sure ur tuner has the boost ramping up throw the RPM range.
@@itsreverse4237 As long as you got a good port set up U can push it to 27psi ramping through the RPM. It will hold just fine. under-rated engines. I have it built now with Pistons, rods and Vac bearings.
If the metal shavings are too large and have all been mostly picked up by the oil filter already I don’t believe they will be picked up in their analysis
EXACTLY! isnt that what the filter is for? To filter out any bad stuff from going further and ruining the engine.
Do the road bearings anyway. People with E60 M5s have passed BlackStone analysis then soon after spun a bearing
Oil analysis is useless when comes to rod bearings failure as they can go at any point in time for very different reasons. I received good oil analysis 3 days after the engine already spun the bearings.
@@stellavouxinc945 exactly!!!
@@corrieharris774 I can find you members on the BWM forum that swear by it but they are just clueless children copy pasting what someone else wrote.
The same exact thing happened to me. Saw flakes in the filter, sent them a sample, and they told it was all good. I drove my car down the street for some errands and the engine seized. I learned that flakes and pieces that are visible cannot be picked up by their machines. I would suggest multiple oil samples over time. This will tell you the real trend pattern.
I recently changed my valve cover on the n55 and had the same reaction when oil leaked out. My pcv valve was bad and was making a terrible squealing noise, similar to when old cars have a serpentine belt squeal. That cover was NOT cheap, paid waaay more than I wanted to. Hopefully it will be oil free now with the functioning pcv. Please make more f30 content!
For a bit of piece of mind, I had the exact same metal shavings in my n55 oil filter. Crapped myself when and changed the bearings and there was no wear, they all was pretty good. I still get a few shavings here and there in filter after oil change. I’m sure there aluminium shavings, dunno where there coming from. If they where hard metal I’d think eccentric shaft. I read a few others with same situations as me. But there’s only one way to find out……….
Spectrometric oil analysis (SOAP) is an invaluable tool in diagnosing and predicting failure of jet and turbofan engine components. The reason for this is that the major assemblies and components of jet and turbofan engines are coated with very specific metals and wear of those metals can predict failure of a system or group of systems. Comparatively, there is exponentially more friction in an internal combustion engine than in the aforementioned jets and turbofans and the various components of an internal combustion engine ARE NOT coated. Don't waste your money on SOAP for a car engine or any other reciprocating engine because the reliability of testing just isn't there yet.
Thank you for solidifying my hunch. I'm no engineer but I had a feeling Blackstone can't help with ice cars and is actually a false sense of security. But who the fuck am I. You put actual facts to my hunch . I knew that shit was a joke.
I wouldn’t use these tests for finding wear metals. I’d only really use it for checking fuel dilution.
I sent a sample into Blackstone on an engine (13B-MSP rotary) I knew had low compression and I did not tell blackstone, and the report came back basically telling me that the engine was a goner. I am not saying they are 100% but I think they are valuable.
I would recommend starting the engine before draining and collecting an oil sample to give it a stir metaphorically speaking. A lot of contaminants will settle out and depending on how long it sat and how you collect your sample, it may not be accurate. The fact your valve cover didn't look like it had a layer of peanut butter on it shows that any water in your oil was very minuscule or introduced after it sat and metal will settle out reasonably quickly, not to mention that is why you have a filter. I am not saying there could not have been an error in the results but it unlikely.
I drove the car for 3 miles before draining the oil per their instructions.
@@VehicleVirals good to know. 👍
Replaced Rod bearings in my 2011 535i xdrive at 140k a few months ago for piece of mind
I had my coils snap off like this in my motor yesterday. Weird how this world works some days, my favorite Bmw RUclipsr went through the same bullshit as me the same day as me
Im going thru the same thing in my 335is previous owner never did maintenance and probably they would not even do oil changes, that now it’s costing me a whole new motor
I’d never waste my money on such a test. Product knowledge and a flashlight to inspect the oil filter is all a person needs. All N series engines are junk
Seeing that it's a 2013, that means it's a PWG N55 thus a smaller turbo and weaker rod bearings and rods. The PWG N55s are far more prone to spun rod bearings. The 2014+ EWG N55s have the S55 rod bearings and S55 forged rods along with a bigger turbo. The N55 in the M2 and M235 also have forged cranks vs the standard cast crank. Spun rod bearings in the EWG N55s are pretty rare compared to the PWG N55s.
If you have big power goals for this N55, definitely do the rod bearings.
Yeah, and perhaps pulling the engine out and installing a set of ewg or aftermarket rods maybe a good idea. Or even some forged pistons
Do you have a source confirming that rods/rod bearings are different from PWG to EWG cars?
@@rjd_F30 RealOEM. They are the same part numbers between the N55 EWG and S55. Both motors came out in 2014.
@@davidbronson9290 Well that’s about as legit of a source as you can get… didn’t know that, thanks for the info.
All N55's (all factory BMW turbocharged engines actually) have forged rods and the part numbers changed (which doesn't mean anything really, they change for many reasons) but the rod bearing themselves were never improved, and later EWG N55 rod bearings fail just as often as earlier N55's because there is no change in the bottom end on 335i's but the M235i, M2, M135i, etc do have a forged crank but those engines fail as well, it has nothing to do with the rod bearings themselves and everything to do with how the car was maintained and driven.
i have a 2011 335xi with 84k and I did a blackstone test. And my test came back on point! Excited to see what ur rod bearings look like
Run some of the Liqui Moly engine flush through it also.
Lucky mine has a book leak I can’t figure out lol
@@v8_sami a book leak? use the liqui moly molygen oil that has the dye in it lol
I don't trust blackstone. read too many on forums gets checked and its fine. but weeks later bearing failure
I got a Blackstone test on my 335i within the last month said it passed but now I'm wondering based on your car if that's reliable can't wait to see how the bearings look. Thought the oil analysis was pretty solid but you got me a bit worried now, I don't think I got metal pieces in my filter though either.
Been using blackstone for over 15 years at first for just high OCI. Back when engines didn't have shite timing chain issues etc. We are now charting the metals (can't do polymer) for timing chain failed and b/c I do only City driving abs chain shell helix 0w40 at less than 3k miles. Cat has 210k mi and 87k on current engine. It's def a replacement as engineer build date is 12/12 and car build date is 5/12. Fingers crossed but I prolly should've moved to 0w50 or 5w50. I'm a long time nerd tribologist.
Omg 😲 yall hit a nerve when I saw those coil boots stuck on thier.... I wish I woulda known that wd-40 trick........ I literally spent a whole weekend trying to get a hold melted boot off the number 6cyl on my back up bmw (n52) I went thru 2mpick tools and finally after going to 4 parts stores found an ultra long and thin pair of needle nose pliers a you bet your bottom dollar that thing came off I a million pieces 🙆♂️😡
Oddly enough haven't had that problem on my n54 😎
Love the channel bro 💯💯
LOL. I love you guys!! Remember "there is no such thing as a "Quick Cheap fix". Haha I suffer too so don't think I'm laughing AT, I'm laughing INSANELY!!! LOL.
As soon as you said you were gonna replace the VCG only, I laughed.
At least 500whp!? Can't wait to see this build's progress!!
What does a rod bearing job run you on a n55?
About 1500-2000 euro/dollar
Oh man I really hope that’s not an eBay/Amazon valve cover. I tried 2 of these on my n55s and they both had issues with the internal pcv right out of the box causing a CEL, idling issues and oil consumption. Issue was fixed with an OEM cover from bmw at 4x’s the price
Just do rod bearings , I got a single turbo port n55 e90 with upgraded bearings and it’s great
Are you sure those were metal flakes? I know I've seen where it was thought to be metal flakes in oil but turned out to be other materials like Assembly lube (even after a lot of miles) gasket sealer or grease that turns into tiny silver looking blobs when mixed up in the fuel and oil.
New to the channel definitely just subbed but awesome video very informative especially since im jumping into the bmw game soon keep up the amazing content!!
On all non pure M cars BMW's maintenance schedule is to go 10k miles on new cars with the original oil!?! This is terrible as brand new engines shed the most amount of metal shaving within the first 1000 miles so essential most owners are driving the next 9k miles with oil that is full of metal 😳. If you buy a new BMW definitely change your oil at 1k miles and at 5k. Then proceed to a regular maintenance schedule if you want the engine to last.
I've got a Blackstone Kit ready to send in myself.
...not worried at all...teehee...😟
Thanks man, great content!
Need help.. 08- e60 535i. New gas peddle & new throttle body. Still no throttle at all & Idles up and down .
Does NGK make normal plugs for this car or just 1 step colder? I'm stock tune but just wanna do plugs and coils for normal maintenance
They make one step colder plugs but we tend to skip out of them. Even on stock cars the two step colder plugs are fine. And benefit you the minute you decide to tune the car.
@@VehicleVirals ok I'll get the step one or two colder then! Thank you for replying, been watching since I had my first car and you had the e93! Now I have a BMW and you have a couple!
Watching a new video by you is a priority than my sleeping 😆
If you’re gonna record the entire process of these jobs. I suggest making a separate video on top of this one. Just to show the audience how to vids on maint and performance mods. I have an N55 myself and am looking to soon do the rod bearings so a video would be lots of help.
Follow ECS tuning. Their videos are top notch.
lots of videos out there doing it. just lots of stuff to remove
Is there any chance that there will be an F22 BMW M235i on the channel?
Let's go n55 !!!
I always keeping an eye out for a bilet valve cover gasket..... if you every find one let me know.....
Been waiting to see this.
I am waiting so see E30 restoration 🤗🤗🤗
So should I not get a 335i n55
No silicon sealant where the covers butt up against each other?
Absolutely not, nowhere in the repair instructions it says to put sealant, its not a 94 civic
Why didn’t you do the Oil housing filter gasket?
Already did it in a previous video.
Aluminium shavings like that aren't coming from bearings. Not hurting doing them tho.
Still doesn't explain the passing report.
Metal shavings are pretty common in these turbo bmws
why or how the metal shavings are happening?
I have a 435i and I want to see what you do to get 500 hp so I can do the same on my car
Bout 10k lol
Bro the ENGINE is good as in the walls etc…. It’s your BEARING BUDDY… TRUST THE PROS
A cheap BMW is never cheap. A cheap 90s Japanese car can be cheap. ;)
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I’m tryna figure out why you didn’t replace coils and plugs when you bought the car.
Don’t you sell all those parts 🤔
Was trying to lumo everything into a total maintenance video. But of course there was a curveball like always.
@@VehicleVirals n5X things. I gotcha bro. I’m still gonna listen and watch every time VV or jess drop. Fr fr.
Mad love from Tx ✌️
@@VehicleVirals I appreciate you waiting and doing this for content. we need this stuff!!
234k in my n54 been running MHD stage 2+ for about 30k hasn’t needed anything other than regular maintenance
Quite the accomplishment!
@@VehicleVirals I’m 2 stepping on borrowed time at this point lol
Maybe the metal in the filter could have been there before you brought it.
I changed the oil and filter after I bought it.
Here’s the thing ladies and gents BMWs are for people who love working on cars or who are able to keep up with the maintenance
This failure was not about maintenance. Smh
Should have got the sample from the completely drained oil and the result would be different
They recommended I drive the car for a few miles before draining it and collecting half way through the drain. Sooo 🤷🏽♂️
@@VehicleVirals l read halfway through the drive at first IoI
@@tothemax0729 I could have wrote that better lol
BMW has a bad reputation because they are expensive to maintain. The can be reliable depending on car and year, but there's no arguing that they are expensive to maintain.
BMW is not made for broke people. Yet broke people always try to own one.
Nothing was wrong with the old valve cover
People with N55s please change your oil at 5k please. They are garbage engines
Let me walk outside and appreciate my Audi S4.
Bruh the valve cover is plastic? Yikes
Most modern cars use plastic valve covers.
@@VehicleVirals wow did not know that at all 🤯
Cool 😎
I’m going to try the oil analysis on the Chevy impala
I thought bmw where bullit proof engines
N55s are very, sensitive motors.. stop being cheap people and do the rod bearings, they will usually go out around 130k miles.
that sad smh
Engine looks pretty caca!!!jajajaja🤣🤣
conclusion ==> buy an n54 :D
I’m so old
You don’t know how to take samples, it’s your fault
Scrap that shit put an N54 in it
S55*
My cars are nicer.
Kidding ofc I dont have one.