How Strong Are Faction Leaders in Classic WoW? (Horde Edition)
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Hey guys, in this video we take a look at the Horde faction leaders to try to partly answer the question "How Strong Are Faction Leaders in Classic WoW?".
A lot of people are familiar with the mechanics of bosses from raid instances such as the Molten Core or Blackwing Lair, but I think few people realize or appreciate the effort Blizzard put into designing the faction leaders / faction bosses. Since they don't drop any epic gear, the incentive to bring down a faction boss is not that great and most players don't seem bother which is a shame.
As it turns out, faction leaders are very well thought out, they use a lot of really cool and unique abilities, and the teamwork and coordination required to raid a main city and take down a boss in the open world is quite different to normal instanced raiding.
Although it doesn't reward any "purples", trying to conquer a main city of the opposing faction is simply a lot of fun and it incentivizes PvP and creates beef between the Horde and Alliance on your server.
My hope with this video is to shed some more light on the (Horde) faction leaders in Classic World of Warcraft, and give them the attention I think they deserve. I intend to do a similar video on the Alliance leaders in the future, but the video would have ended up too long had I included them here.
I hope you will enjoy the video!
Timestamps:
Cairne Bloodhoof (Thunder Bluff): 4:26
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner (Undercity): 9:05
Varimathras: 12:40
Thrall (Orgrimmar): 15:16
Vol'jin: 17:56
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Good to see Arnold Shwazenegger is back ;))
Dang it beat me to it haha
Moon H hehe Arnold wasn't danish 😂😂😂 this just English spoken by a Dane 😂😂😂🇩🇰🇩🇰
This cracked me up a lil bit 😆
@@nexzus1000 Arnold was actually Austrian lol
Zurgoll well ....good....to...know? Okay in Denmark we have a saying for a reply like that, and it goes like this... vigtig viden ligegyldig info... but sure nice to know👍
90% of comments: Wow its Arnold scharzengger
10% of comments: Wow those are strong bosses.
My favorite thing about vanilla was that heroes were the same size as everyone else. Now everyone is like 5 feet taller than the biggest races in the game.
Yeah, they were actually just repurposed character models, which was overall good I think. It made them and other "hero" units like Rexxar and Nathanos feel relatively grounded, even though they were all faaaaar beyond what players could ever do.
so this is what Arnold Schwarzenegger does in his free time
made my day :D
I can't unhear it anymore
Thanks for the video Arnold, Very cool!
I hope you enjoyed it! :-)
That is the most danish accent I've heard in my life lol.
@TheNewyorkdragon Nah, that's Danish, no doubt.
@TheNewyorkdragon 100% danish accent. His name is also danish :)
thought the same thing hehe xD 100% dansk
@SinisterMinister Nah this dude is 100% Danish. I'm cringing at how thick the accent is, it's bloody obvious.
If you call this dude Australian, you've never heard that accent before. :p
And just because people are comparing him to Arnold doesn't make him Australian either.
I primarily believe that's because of the heavy wording and the way he pronounce them.
For det var DAAANMAARK
High Overlord Saurfang Is so powerful, even blizzard couldn't nerf him
Too strong even for Blizzard :) He's an interesting NPC for sure!
finally some original content, no joke
Thanks a lot! I hope you enjoyed it.
I don't even play wow anymore let alone classic but I'm really glad RUclips recommended your video, keep up the good work can't wait for more
Thanks a lot mate! I'm very happy you seem to have enjoyed the video so much :)
The Recklessness pop at 14:42 into Sylvanas' fade was painful to watch
meh only 3 secs not really that bad
awesome vid! I love that some abilities are so secret. Because everyone just forgot about them or never raided them in vanilla.
Thanks mate! Some of the abilities are really awesome and unique, and that's definitely the main thing I like about the faction leader encounters. It's always great to be surprised with new stuff like that in the game.
Came for the title, stayed for the accent and the content! Love the video!
That's awesome! Thanks mate - glad you enjoyed the video :)
ohboy I was wondering about that recently and here we are, perfect timing
That's great! I hope you got something out of the video :)
This must be the best video relating to the faction bosses, amazing job!
Wow, thanks a lot mate! I'm very glad the video turned out well and that you enjoyed it :)
Could you (if you haven't yet) investigate/cover other "boss" faction NPCs, like Nathanos and Rexxar, in a video? I was shocked when I found out how hard those two can be.
Super video, looking forward to the alliance one! Did not know they had so many abilities!
Very glad you enjoyed it! I'll definitely try to get the Alliance one done soon :)
Excellent video ive always wondered about how to go about killing the faction leaders. I killed the horde leaders for the achievement back in Wrath of the Lich King but I have never killed the alliance leaders, csnnot wait for the next part of this series! !
Thank you very much! I'm happy you seemed to like the video so much. I'll definitely try to get the Alliance video done some time in the not so distant future.
You forgot Rexxar. he is also a boss level faction leader
That's a bummer. Yep, I realize he does fit the criteria I set myself.
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 give him an honorable mention in the alliance version - i dont think the viewers will mind a minor correction
Please don’t forget Shandris Feathermoon when you do the alliance side
@@Smallfry666LeftyBass But Shandris has no boss level, she's lvl62. Jaina Proudmoore is a boss
@@autistusmaximus8040 I could possibly do that :)
i've been curious about these encounters for a long time. Good job on breaking them down!
That's great to hear. Thanks! I hope you enjoyed the video,
Amazing Video, finally Original content i have never seen before! Great job, more pls :)
Thank you very much! I'm happy to hear that and very happy you enjoyed the video :)
Really looking forward to the alliance faction boss video!
Awesome man, I'm really happy to hear that! I'll try to get it done within a reasonable time :)
“Slayin a raid dwagon”
Not sure if to read it in this guy's voice or Asian lmao
@@GokuTheHusky I read it in Elmer Fudd voice
"Slayin a waid dwagon"
You wascally wabbit
You always seem to come out with interesting and helpful vids. Good on ya!
Thanks a lot! I'm happy you feel that way about the videos :)
Awesome video, very informative and well researched. Thank you for taking the time on it, keep it up!
Thanks a lot! I'm very happy you enjoyed the video and appreciate it :)
Great Video yet again, Arnold!
Thanks a lot mate :)
Can you please say "get to the choppa" in your next video? I would actually love that. This video is awesome.
Thanks a lot. Very happy to hear you enjoyed the video! I might do it on a special occassion :)
Great content as always :) Hope to see your channel grow a lot this year.
Thanks a lot mate and thanks for the support. I'm very glad you enjoy the videos :)
Your voice grew on me throughout the video, I love it!!
Thanks mate - happy to hear that :-) I hope you enjoyed the video.
Nice vid mate, super chillern
Thank you very much man! Hope you found it entertaining :)
Great video! I was just hoping for some info on Saurfang too who is known to wipe inexperienced pvp groups who go for him. Know he isn't strictly a faction leader but I thought it would be fun to know.
Thank you! I might do a future video on NPCs like Saurfang granted that I can gather enough interesting and general information about them (I believe there's at least 1 Alliance NPC with similar strength to Saurfang).
Great vid man keep up the good work!
Thanks a lot man, glad you enjoyed the video!
yo i just watched a bunch of your videos and i realized we were in the same guild on Northdale, i was an orc rogue named "Green" :D
@DemhaG Hehe, that's funny - yes I do remember the name Green actually :D Do you play with the Serenity guild in Classic?
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 no i decided to roll on a random pvp server to meet some new people, currently on firemaw
@@Demha96 Nice, hope you're enjoying your time!
Is insane how no one has make another video similar to this topic
Great work
Thanks a lot! Hope you enjoyed your time :)
To my understanding, there is no confirmed kill of classic/vanilla varimathras??
Great video mate :)
Thanks a lot man! I'm glad you enjoy the videos :)
Very interesting video! :)
Thank you very much man :)
Awesome Video!
Thank you! Very glad you liked it :)
Like how the rogue at 6:00 has perds in offhand and corehound tooth in main hand lol
Woops :D
Besides the Alliance version of this, it would be cool to see a video with faction leader faceoffs, like make them battle each other 1v1, and then a group fight.
That would be really cool, but the fight simulations would have to be private server based (where HP values, damage, abilities etc. might not be the exact same as in Classic).
More than likely magni bronzebeard would be the strongest as that would be a race of auto attack damage and he has avatar.
He didn't mention saurfang out of fear of getting cleaved.
You know this guy is danish and I love it :) hope I’ll see more from you I’ll give a sub
Thank you very much for the positive comment mate. I hope you enjoyed the video!
Good video man :)
Thanks a lot :-) Hope it was worth your time.
I would consider Magatha Blackhoof ,found on the druid section of the Tauren capital, a faction leader as well, however she is not an elite.
She is one of the few NPC with a unique voice actor and I believe was suppose to be a counterpart to Fandral on the Alliance.
I can't seem to find any results on the name "Magatha Blackhoof" in any Classic databases. Are you sure it's the correct name? Still, if there's an NPC like that with unique voice lines that's very interesting - I never knew of any in Thunder Bluff besides Cairne.
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 Oh my mistake, its been forever since the last time I brought her up, her name is Magatha Grimtotem. Again you can find her on the Druid bluff.
@@alotosius Ah, okay. I'll try to check her out sometime. Thanks!
I’ll be sure to inform my wade on the their abiwlities
Great video and voice!
Thanks a lot mate :-) Happy you like both!
Ive missed hearing english in non-american accents, looking forward to more content!
I'll try to keep it coming! Hope you enjoyed the video.
Fascinating video.
Thanks man!
I quit classic wow last week :( . Still waiting for your next vid cuz they are actually interesting.
Oh well, it's up and down with everything! I'm glad you find the videos interesting :) Alliance Edition coming today.
GET TO DA CHOPAAA !
Does Arnold Shwarzenegger play wow?
Honestly the hardes part of the uc raid should be the close portal location. If horde notices you'll be zerged quickly.
I guess that should be a consideration as well.
Funfact use fairie fire on sylvannus to prevent her from going invis
I wasn't sure if that was possible, so thanks for clarifying!
Moegdal's WoW Videos no problem when i played i was huge on world pvp and city offense/defense.
@@silasgs9257 That's awesome! I like it a lot as well, but haven't done much in Classic yet.
SOUND just like Arnold Shwazenegger!!! i appreciate that you did this in English and are trying to get famous as an English speaker..... im Mexican and my people speak Spanish but the most common language is English and all i wanna hear is English!!! i wish we all spoke the same language ^.^
Thanks man, I hope you enjoyed the video :)
Did you ever figure out if sylvannas actually uses black arrow or not?
Judging from another comment she does indeed use it which is pretty cool.
yeah thrall has a lightning shield as well, but it proc's like a smaller chain lightning.
Interesting! Does the ability have a special name that you might know?
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 i sure don't, and in classic i dont believe you can even see it as a buff/debuff. I know his abilities listed on various sites only show his shock, and chain lightning. But i've seen first hand people taking lightning damage from him w/o him casting a chain lightning, cause you can tell when that goes out! it hits like 8-10 people
@@freemaysin5088 I guess you would be able to see through your combat log which states the source of the damage you take. I'll have to try and raid Orgrimmar myself sometime when I get a level 60 alliance.
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 Yeah that would be the best way, i've never played alliance enough to raid him, only been there defending at times so it's never been in my log =p
but i think you are correct, that'd be the best way to find out!
Looking forward to alliance version
Great man! Happy to hear it.
what country are you from?
btw nice work on this vid
Judging by the accent I'd put my money on that he's Danish.
@Oni Squid I am from Denmark, yes :) Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 im danish as well :D i started playing the game yesterday currently playing as a human paladin.
@@dinooo3652 Rigtig god fornøjelse med spillet :)
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 Tusind tak. Har du nogle tips?
"Pug a 5man group too kill thrall" Oh wait you can do that in retail - faceplam
Is that true? How times have changed... :D
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 Yeah somewhere in the 8.2 alliance war campaign. Sad times
Cairn Bloodhoof was done by a 5man in vanilla. In blues.
@@Ad4m89 Damn...
@@irtehdar2446 That very hard to believe unless they used special tricks.
What do you get when you get when you cross Elmer Fudd and Arnold Schwarzenegger?
This guy.
“Who is your daddy, and what does he do?”
“Lemme talk to ya mother.”
i love this man's accent
Thanks mate! :)
What is with Saurfang?
He's technically not a faction leader, but he's very strong. I don't know much about him myself yet.
Whatsup Schwarzenegger my man :-)
Hello :)
Faction leaders should drop unique loot. Imagine... once a week the city gets leveled
That would be very cool, but it would have a lot of implications as well I think (depending on the quality of the loot).
Classic+
Well the problem is, that Servers which allready have issues with faction ballancing, will be screwed even more... Even tho i would love to go to stormwind from time to time, trying to fight of some alliance and kill a Pvp raid boss, which has a great lore, is a strong opponent and has even greater loot.
Pobably most players wont have a chance on trying this, because of the huge Server population and the great respawn timer.
I think this would be a cool pvp event with a weekly id. You would try to kill the attacking commander (Npc) or defend your faction leader, with palyers on both sides. But this would go far too long, trying to figure out how to make this idea work.
@@freddywat9041 You're right that it would have a lot of (unforeseen) gameplay implications. If they decide to do some form of Classic+ (which I don't know if I would like or not) it would be cool if they did some experimentations with the faction leaders. They have a lot of potential in my opinion!
How Strong was classic Saurfang, back when he was at his best.
It is possible that I do a video on something like that in the future :)
Is a big bearded Dwarf commenting in this video? amazing.
11:03 like a hams sausage
Now say YOU BLEW MY COVER
You forgot saurfang I know he’s not a faction leader but he’s stronger than thrall.
If I can gather enough information on NPCs like Saurfang (Shandris Feathermoon on the Alliance side) I might make a future video about them :)
I'll be back!
Really? thunder is the least protected city?
i tend to disagree.
thunder bluff is always full of people, and except the world buff-poping which takes place in orgrimmar, thunder bluff is the best city horde has.
First of all, if u know that a push is coming to thunder bluff, the alliance can never get in.
i mean imagine a group of horde people waiting when u come up from that tiny elevetor.. yikes ( and yes i've seen this happen).
Second, the city has everything u need so close to each other, which makes it really convinient.
AH-Bank-Blacksmith for repairs with forge and anvil, regeant vendor, arrow vendor and fly path are all one breath away from each other, and the battlemasters are close as well.
In addition, u won't experience problems queing from a battlemaster in thunder bluff like u have in orgrimmar cus the battlemasters in thunder bluff are taller and generally larger, really easy to click on them and que even if there are tons of players there.
The fly path takes u swiftly to important places like Feralas , which is a very popular multi dungeon while also being the best farming spot for many classes.
Onyxia lair is also very close from a TB fly path.
I know those things seem irrelevant and people were definetly ignoring Thunderbluff back in the days, it was all about orgrimmar.
But with today's standards a lot of people realised how much better of a city Thunder bluff is, and it has so many people in classic.
Not to mention that during phase 2, orgrimmar was full of alliance rogues .. while thunder bluff was safe.
@akhs denlew You have definitely given a lot of thought to the topic, and you have a lot of interesting inputs. Thunder Bluff might very well be more populated in terms of player traffic than I give it credit for in the video, and I really like its atmosphere myself. You make some good points about its benefits. When I say Thunder Bluff is the least protected city I'm referring to the faction leader more than the city itself which I should have clarified. I don't think Cairne is as well protected as the other Horde faction leaders, but for the city itself it might be a different story. When making the video, I did think in the back of my mind that TB was the least populated main city on the Horde side, so it has probably changed the way I worded different things.
I always thought Cairne could Reincarnate but I guess that was just a myth ;P
It would be pretty cool if he could, but maybe slighlty OP :D
Isn’t rexxar a faction leader? Like doesn’t he have a skull
Yes, I missed Rexxar. He'll get a mention in the Alliance video :)
I wish that faction bosses dropped loot, that would be so cool. Alas, no changes and they are still awesome!
That would be really cool - like looting Cairne's totem weapon from him for example. But it would have a lot of other gameplay implications as well I think - depending on the quality of the loot and how far people would be willing to go in order to get it.
No saurfang?
I've heard that he should be very hard to kill, but he's not technically a faction leader I believe. He might be featured in some future video, because he's definitely interesting in his own way.
I was gonna say, Saurfang is probably the strongest of them all, he absolutely wrecks people, does a mortal strike that can hit for like 7k dmg.
@@yazzyyazyaz That sounds pretty overpowered! I'll try to look into him.
Slaying an evil DWAGON !
earthshaker brother !
Where's my spiny boi Saurfang at tho?
He's "only" level 62, but I might make a future video about him :)
2 ways in, in all horde cities.. so you don't have to run through the areas with ppl in it. IF and SW is the polar opposite. 1 way in and all is being funneled into 1 entrance...easy clap for alliance
Yep, I don't know why Blizzard made it like that. It's a big disadvantage to Horde players looking to take down an Alliance faction leader. It's really hard to go unnoticed.
Wagnawos uwu
What about Saurfang? Most OP boss in the game
He technically doesn't fit my criteria for a faction leader, but I might make a video about him - who knows. He's definitely interesting!
congratulations - schwarzenegger is in ur video
Hello,
I watched the whole video and I have to say, I didn't understand a word of it.
The reason ? I don't speak English.
U Forgot Rexxar and Saurfang,
I mention Rexxar in the Alliance video since I forgot him here, but Saurfang doesn't quite fit the criteria of what a faction boss is in my opinion. He is very powerful, though, and I would like to do a video about him in the future.
Why is that rogue using perds in off hand and core hound in main hand.. wtf?
Jesus... The dane is choking on the potato here.
wagwanos!
I think I counted about 1 or 2 "r"'s in this video xD
Don't worry bro we Danes don't get this naturally
On banshee you pronounced multi wrong but on the dreathlord you say I right on his drain life 😄🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰 love danglish
Damn Wagnawos gets me evewytime
Fourteen Woyal Dweadguards
Varimathras is the wrong model scale size
he sounds like the terminator
GET TO THE CHOOOPPPAAAA!!
Get to the choppa!
Hmm i can sense the danish.... is it because im swedish?, no i think most people can figure this one out xD
Morten?
I love your accent
Thanks a lot :-)
grontrolman?