16 years ago during vanilla, I met this little tauren druid leveling near crossroads on the server Vashj-EU, he asked me if I could help him kill some quillboars for this one quest. I said sure, and we became friends. 16 years later and we're still best friends and have met up several times irl since he is luckily from Sweden and myself from Denmark.
You are very lucky my man. I also did irl meet up with my guild but after just few years, everyone quit the game and then that was it…Kinda hard to keep the online friendship I think.
I saw the downward trend during cata, and only returned at periods to see if it got better. This video actually hurts bad because how true it really is. Blizzard being picked up by Activision destroyed something loved by so many, and the business practices are now standard for them, even though people on mass hates it. Wife and I are playing SoD, but it's not the same, good, but that wonder is gone. Private servers honestly encapsulate the feeling better than blizzard, which is crazy to think.
It's sad but boy did the world change a lot, especially online, throughout that time. It was a magical moment in time. Actually met my wife in Stormwind many years ago. Thank god I needed some 10 slot bags, otherwise she'd have just been another tailor spamming /2 chat 😊
@@shnorkeythefourth4572 harcore WoW, classic or wotlk, if you die you delete your char. If you hit max level you can keep your char but no more hardcore-stuff
This is beautiful. I started in november 2004. My dad had always been a gamer since i can remember him playing warcraft 1 and diablo, he got me WoW for me as a year 12 graduation present, i was 18. He soon became hooked. He made a guild and they raided from vanilla through to Lich King. Those nights of him raiding and the excitment he had made me feel so happy. I miss you dad. I miss wow during its glory days. I have a family of my own now but my kids dont even know what wow is. Feels like a life time ago. Ill never forget those years.
I also startet playing WoW 2004. It was a beutiful Time and there was a kind of Magic in the Air. Dont be sad. This golden Memorys never die. Greetings from Germany
90% of the magic has faded away, but there are kids out there doing exactly what we did but in different games. Making lifelong friendships through the video games that we play, and these years will be the golden years for *them* .
Maybe but with a monetized driven industry- it will be very VERY rare - almost every game now day has a pay to win element - 2005 back it was a very almost none existing concept.
100% nailed it. Been here since 2005 and you summarized the shifts in community, interactions, and gameplay perfectly. I feel like a big thing WoW originally had going for it at the start was how the internet was still a bit of a novelty but now there's so much competition and it's oversaturated and it doesn't feel as magical. Oh well. Great cartoon tho CB
It’s not just WOW. Every mmorpg ever. Lineage, Aion, Tera, EVE Online… and it’s definitely not that I’ve grown up. It’s just not fun anymore. So many time savers for irl money, instant teleport stuff, top gear just handed to you doing main story quests… absolutely no sense of achievement and it gets dull very quickly.
Or the game just turned into a moneygrab trash... Brainless games for brainless monkeys have flooded the market, catering to the lowest tier of human intelligence. Make games challenging again and hardcore gamers will enjoy them just as always.
With how much stuff you have done in support of blizzard and together with them I’m surprised you could create such a critically damning video of them. That takes a lot of balls.
They probably skipped a paycheck XD Channels like these are rarely cooperated with for long. Usually the corporation wants to grab some of the current hype & popularity, sell some MTX / Merch and then move on to the next thing. Same here.
@@narmale carbot has always been able to stir emotions when he hardly uses any dialogue. but this resonates on a different level. it's honestly heartbreaking to see almost exactly what i did in wow for years turn into what it has become. a soulless game where all you do is stand around, que for something, and talk to no one. i miss my home.
When you pug a dungeon, it's rare anyone even says "hi" or "thank you" at the end. It's just run thru as quickly as possible and leave group as fast as humanly possible.
Yeah, thats so sad. I feel like I am playing with bots. Thats why I am currently more enjoying season of discovery, the players say/write more. You can find groups for hard quests by just writing in the chat. It's almost like in the good old days.
It's terrible. I seriously hate it and there are people in retail that just don't understand the importance of communication in mmos. They play it like it's a single player game never uttering a single word
@@iain-duncannot really, majority of people seem to be blissfully hooked on a dopamine loop of numbers and loot, there is little to no social interaction. even gamers aren't completely antisocial, or at least they weren't always
agreed. I don't even play WoW, I only have a brief moment playing on private server and now... seeing this make me sad. It's a memory of 15 years+ mmo and it's dying....
I was playing retail one day and saw a group of low levels running through Elwyn Forrest I joined their party and they where talking up a storm in party chat asking me questions and seemed amazed by some of the things I was saying. They started playing the game for the first time about 2 days prior and they said the game was amazing and that they’ve been having a blast. Everytime they got some item that wasn’t actually worth a damn they would be stellar about it. Anytime they saw someone fly by on a store mount they were in aw. New zones got them hyped. And it brought a since of peace and acceptance to my mind. Ya the magic is gone for us who have been playing for 8+ years but there are still new players who come and get to experience the magic for the first time and that made me really happy kinda like a mentor passing the torch to their apprentice. It’s not the same magic but it instills the same feeling we all had way back when. I hope that group is still going strong it’s been about a month since I saw them.
Last thing I ever did on my OG tauren warrior tank was fly back to Thunder Bluff, then ride back to Bloodhoof Village, go to the warrior's circle, and sit down on one of the mats. He'd gotten me through Zul'Gurub, Molten Core, Onyxia...then BE pally tanks came around in WotLK and warrior tanks weren't popular anymore. I'd spent more time on my rogue, but then no one wanted rogues in raids anymore. I tried doing PvP but that ended up becoming a repetitive parody. I handed off my guildmaster position to my friend, went to Bloodhoof Village, had my tauren sit on an empty mat in the warrior circle, and actually felt empty inside as I signed off for the last time, a month before Cataclysm was released. Istvarrh, tauren warrior, guildmaster of The Grownup Guild on Suramar server. I won't forget those years.
Wtf do you mean? This _is_ home. This is what the game has become. It's what players voted for by buying store mounts and level boosts. Activision Blizzard is a dying company, and WoW is a mockery of what it once was.
@@Nutsaur Yeah, every game series since the concept of games has been perpetually made shallower and shallower for the sake of chasing profit. Oh wait no, actually only trash companies who picked share holders as their primary customers do that to their franchises. You are welcome for the reality check.
@@GuntherCloneC Carbot has 7 seasons of an animated show like this video but it's based on StarCraft and follows the games and DLC over the years. The final episode was heart wrenching.
@@Raynedog00 But also beautiful, as the Marine and the Medic had a happy ending together. But along with Carbot, I feel that the game Starcraft 2 (and Starcraft as a whole) is finally done. But.. while not perfect (nothing can beat the Starcraft 1 story), the ending of Starcraft 2 was good enough I think :)
I'm late but, this made me cry. I miss this time so much, 14 years of my life that will never happen again in another game. So many friends come and gone. Thanks for the memories ❤
Dude, you got my highest respects for posting this video while knowing that Blizzard endorse your videos (used them at Blizzcon etc). This was spot-on and almost made me shed a tear. The original WoW without any expansions was one of the best experiences a gamer could have had.
nah, BC was the fix for the many issues that original had, although when badge gear was introduced from Bobby taking over you could already hear the wind starting to blow in the dying limbs
@@narmale Yes, original WoW was unique when it came out, but it had many glaring problems. Like I don’t think I ever did a 40 man raid with 40 man in vanillia, because of server instability. Paladins and bears were missing a few abilities to actuelly tank and so on. TBC fixed that. There is a few things from wotlk that could have been used in tbc, but I think that tbc was were WoW really became “complete”
And now they will break ties with carbot, because they can't handle criticism. Just look at the bald one, he is always critical of wow even though he loves the game more than probably anyone. And Blizz does not even acknowledge he exists, it is like company PR policy to ignore him, even though he is like the biggest streamer and most known WoW content creator.
@@caffeinefuelled9186 i still talk to 3 friends i met in vanilla... still have their phone numbers... and i just texted all 3 to watch this... i dont think any of us will have dry eyes after this
I had a NE hunter in a PvP realm and once saw someone with the rare echeyakee white lion pet. The moment I saw it I wanted it so bad. I heard I had to run to barrens to get it. After an epic journey on foot I finally got to the spawn location and only then realized after reading more details online it could only be spawned by a horde quest. I was so disappointed. It just so happened an undead player was running past me and instead of him attacking me, and me attacking him, I jumped up and down and /pointed to the area where echeyakee spawned. He /nodded to me, then told me to /wait. He ran off...and after 15 minutes of almost giving up, he came back, spawned echeyakee and I tamed him! I will never meet this player or know who he/she was, but memories like these stick with you forever and anyone who never played WoW could ever understand the impact these moments have on us.
One of my fav things was back in the day during classic or tbc, you'd ask a gm to restore a deleted character. They'd say 'limited amount of restores, blahblahblah this is likely your last one now'. I figured I had deleted my alliance on the realm and when the gm said 'Have you made sure there arent any alliance characters on this realm', I said yes. Relogged and noticed I had a horde character and my alliance character on the same server. Both worked, I was able to create more alliance characters, but not horde. Was a really cool bug I never even bothered to use. One other funny thing is I remember the one rare time I've seen a gm on the PTR was around wrath I believe. I saw some guy randomly fall from near the ceiling in ironforge (where the deep gap is, somewhat near the tram). Bubbled as he was falling and lived, asked him if he somehow glitched up there, said he was teleported. Invites me to group and suddenly hes teleported into the lava at the forge, this random druid and I start healing him through the fire ticks, he vanished again. Apparently a GM tried to kill him a few times and left him in Winterfall lol. I forget what he did, but I actually made a gm ticket and the gm said 'yeah that was me, I like to give people a warning first, something something.' Was pretty damn funny.
Such a nice story, and actually I need to tell you something. That player, the undead who you met in the Barrens all those years ago, the one who spawned the pet for you... ...that was not me. But imagine how cool it would be if that person replied here. :)
@@ArtEqualsLife As a undead warrior main, i just want to say, that's a beautifull story!!! I have similar stories, and totally opposite stories too :D Hunter was great in Wotlk. Warr was great in vanilla/BC
Having that box in your hand along with the time card is a feeling that I’ve long forgotten. It was just different kind of emotion that I will probably never experience in my life again. Now I know I’m not the only one with this type of nostalgia.
Even finding the time cards for that game are just pure nostalgia copium. I do miss playing it, and I might shell out the funds during the anniversary month. Token prices are just too high to keep grinding, even across multiple characters.
you'll have tones of those moments going forward into your old age. maybe its an old cologne or perfume smell that takes you back, or maybe you buy the box version of WOW again off ebay and it has the time card and still has that smell, or you buy your first car again and make it how it was when you where 18. I think a lot of people go through these moments or long for trying to reacquire what they once had and many succeed in recreating these memories, like guys who have memorabilia pool rooms. likewise, 10-20yrs from now you'll be missing the moment you have right now and whatever it is that makes it even mildly special.
Wish I could have that kind of nostalgia again, every time I look at wow I wanna go back to it. Though I know the feelings and enjoyment of it will never be the same as the first time.
When leveling my first character I had a feral druid guild member who would always do dungeons and their quests with me. Back then this was quite the hassle as you often had to finish long quest chains to grab them, assemble a decent party, walk to the dungeon and be able to finish it. Not that I am complaining, it felt awesome. I did not have much knowledge about the game, and one day asked my guild chat if rogues could have pets. They knew of our leveling bond and jokingly said Kioshiro, the druid, was my pet as he would follow me around prowling like a pet would. We ended up being close ingame, but after some time life had forced me to leave World of Warcraft and I lost contact. When I came back he no longer played. This silly interaction is one of my warmest memories in World of Warcraft.
I once meet an ingame blood elf girl fishing in orgrimmar, i asked to her what is she fishing and we started to talk about the game. Day after days playing together we starting to talk about our lives on Facebook for months. A day i told to here that i bough a train ticket and gonna meet her for real for an entire week. The result is we started a relationship but this ended cause of the long distance between her and me. Almost 13 years after we continue talking times to times. She dont play anymore and she has a daughter. She remain my best memorie from this game
I remember being a level 20-something dwarf hunter on Anvilmar during WotLK back when I started playing. I had gone into BGs and saw a blood elf with that bright red cat that shows up in their starting area. So I asked in the guild I was in if anyone knew where to get it. Someone in my guild, I think a death knight, escorted me all the way from Ironforge to the blood elf starting zone so I could tame one for myself. One of my own fondest memories of the game.
I was a Warcraft fan since WC2, and when WoW launched I was one of the first ones out of the gate. I helped start a guild and got to be really good friends with a mage and a warrior. The three of us reached around level 30 after a couple of weeks and decided to go on an adventure. We set out from Stormwind and made the run up to Menethil. From there, we sailed to Auberdine. None of us had ever been to Kalimdor, and we wandered and explored for days. We eventually wound up in Desolace, back when there was literally nothing there. We spent a couple of days roaming the coast line, looking at all of the ruined towers and ancient buildings, fighting naga and elite sea giants. Even now, 16 years later, I still hold those days of adventure with two of my closest friends from Wow dear.
@@StarlitSoryn I think most people's best memories of the game involved interactions of some form or another with other people in the game. Blizzard has essentially removed the need for player interaction from the game, so that it was easier for people to do things on their own. Problem is, they didn't realize that the player interaction part is what gave the game life.
let me guess, your next video title will be "Sylvanas has daddy issue, Arthas will be shows up again for the second time, Illidan still can't stop jacking off on that married woman, Blizzard has teased us about my future life since WoW classic fifteen years ago"
@@victorcouturieux1726 The road that we walk Is lost in the flood Here proud angels bathe in Their wages of blood At this, the world’s end, do we cast off tomorrow One brings shadow, one brings light To this riddle all souls are tied Brief our moments, brazen and bright Forged in fury, tempered in ice Hindmost devils, early to rise Sing come twilight, sleep when they die Heaven’s banquet leavened with lies Sating honor, envy, and pride One brings shadow, one brings light Run from the light
Sorry for your loss. Our guild which had been around since TBC has just passed away as well as of last week. It’s rough out there right now and that is bringing out some of the worst in the people who are still left playing.
@@aroundthefur1210 I completely feel what you're saying. We set up in LK and since our guild's demise I floated briefly to try and find a progression guild that was chill but still looking for mythic progression and I just couldn't get the feeling back of our guild. Ended up raid-leading pugs instead, but that comes with its own pain. Swapped servers and ran into toxic hell. Swapped to classic and the guild there died too. Hopefully it will come good. Best of luck out there friend, thank you for the comment.
I cancelled my sub 3 days ago. I was born and raised in Istanbul. When I was a kid my dream was to work for Blizzard. I am 31 one now, made all the right moves for my life goals and now I live in Long Beach and work in Orange county. My work is 20 minutes away from Blizzard HQ but I have never been so far away from the place where I wanted to be the most.
This video really hits home, especially as expansions went on and friends became less and less. The sweetest and most amazing person I ever met got lost somewhere in time and space and I miss her dearly, Shadlina. A Night Elf Druid, we used to play on Bloodhoof, and I myself a Night Elf Rogue at the time. She had a stroke at a young age and I remember our guild did everything it could to make sure she would be there doing the end game content with us no matter what. I can't believe the memories we hold so deeply buried within from the people we've met along the way. I miss you Shadlina, wherever you may be. Know that I never forgot about you.
My Shadlina was Tashali on Sisters of Elune. One of the hardest lessons to learn is that not every friend you make is a forever friend, no matter how close you may have been. Things change, people change, sometimes you make a mistake. Life would be great if every friend I made since joining WoW in 2007 had kept in touch in some way, but, you know. Not always how it happens, even when the other person is everything you ever sought in a friend. Just hope she's doing well.
Aww I remember my good old male friends where they played with me to have fun and not bc i was a girl now all of the guys that play try to get with me and if I reject them im called a whore or an egirl i wish I could go back where gender didnt matter and I played to have fun and not date ill never forget any of the cool friends i met at a young age but that are gone now..
I remember playing in a guild full of older folks ( 40s - 60s years old) back in 2006- 2008. Had a lot of fun with with them because they really matured. I feel like a good portion of them have passed it's sad thinking about that.
This made me tear up man, it's so insanely accurate. Except people started quitting late cata and a lot during MoP for me. Had some fun in Legion but BFA the game was dead. Shadowlands did not revive the game like we hoped
This hit home. I stopped playing after Warlords of Draenor. I started when Burning Crusade released. I miss the golden years. But now i play again, and I have the best WoW buddy who can relate with me on the golden years.
I'm proud of you, Carbot. Even with all the support and endorsement, still making an honest and quality video. Thank you for never changing in this world of changes.
Last thing I ever did on my OG tauren warrior tank was fly back to Thunder Bluff, then ride back to Bloodhoof Village, go to the warrior's circle, and sit down on one of the mats. He'd gotten me through Zul'Gurub, Molten Core, Onyxia...then BE pally tanks came around in WotLK and warrior tanks weren't popular anymore. I'd spent more time on my rogue, but then no one wanted rogues in raids anymore. I tried doing PvP but that ended up becoming a repetitive parody. I handed off my guildmaster position to my friend, went to Bloodhoof Village, had my tauren sit on an empty mat in the warrior circle, and actually felt empty inside as I signed off for the last time, a month before Cataclysm was released. Istvarrh, tauren warrior, guildmaster of The Grownup Guild on Suramar server. I won't forget those years.
This legit made me cry. I never got to play like the veterans did in Vanilla because I started in Cataclysm, but, I had A LOT of friends in Cata I'd always group up with and figure stuff out with. I desperately miss the days of actual companionship and friends amongst the community... Now it's just so lifeless and boring and even the Roleplay servers seem dead despite being one of the more populated types of servers.
@@Yinzermakesvids If you need an MMORPG with a great community I really recommend one of Standing stone games MMO's. excellent for group play really recommend them :D
The side effect of auto matchmaking. At this point it's up to the game makers, they can automate participation and make more money or they can leave it up to the players and lose money. Millennials just aren't social people, they're extremely antisocial and hateful, it's why they have to have a computer system to assign them with other people, they would never get on a team otherwise.
That almost brought me to tears. Seriously, that was portrayed perfectly and as a product of that, very saddening. God damn it, what a crushing reality for the current state of WoW.
I don't even play WOW (Tried once but it never sticked with me) but I know what it is to have a community break apart, either by horrible dev decisions to the game, internal conflict or corporate greed. It's gut wrenching and something that keeps you awake at night. It's like you lose a part of yourself. You want to quit but you have such an attachment to the game that you go with it just to hold on to the memories you made along the way, hoping that there's something ahead.
Elder players are losers now who wish they were kids again and are now like the old people of their times who whined about "BACK IN MY DAY!" Realize that shit and move on dude.
@@WickedWisdom55 First, I am sorry for you if I loved this video and you don't. Second, I am a loser and I assume it, we moved on don't worry for us young arrogant little boy :)). And third, we will still come back each extension to have fun and play with the new generation even if some complexed people spit on others like you to pretend you are better than another =)), kid things.
To be fair, the only one able to kill WoW was always going to be WoW itself. Once you establish an emotional bond with a game due to time spent and friends made, it does not suffice being a kickass game to kill WoW. Imho that is exactly what we see/saw with FF14. Although FF14 (ARR) has always been good, it is only because blizzard has estranged so many of its player base that it was able to dethrone them as number one MMO. Good for Square Enix though, they deserve it imho. Just as Blizzard once deserved it ... and now not anymore. (Just my 2 cents :) )
i remember playing a troll warrior back in 2004-2005 questing in eastern plaguelands, i was minding my own business killing mobs when this other warrior came out of nowhere and were battling for straight 2-3mins and this undead priest joined the fray and whispered me "keep fighting, i got your back" we were victorius, we started to talk to each other and we become friends trough tbc and wotlk, he quit in ToGC patch. We had so many adventures together! if you are reading this bloodlife - Emerald Dream know that your friend shrekfriend still remember you!
I feel like after watching this, that this characterizes "it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all" better than anything else. It's so sad what this game has become, but I'm so glad I was there from the beginning
I actually saw this video for the first time today and I agree with you. I never played WoW back in its best days, but I damn well wish I had, given the differences. I wish I at least had the memory of it. Because I've had other similar experiences, especially with MapleStory - except I was the one of the first who became the "last online 12 years ago" guy. I even tried to come back and weather all the shenanigans, remembered my username, password, PIN, only get met with "You've been banned for hacking." I probably would have found nobody online any way.
My friend from my hometown and I had a small guild that we formed during Mists of Pandaria when a whole bunch of the old group decided to start playing again - not sure why we started again, but it remains my favourite expansion. Almost everyone stopped except my friend and I, who used it as a way to catch up since we couldn't travel and visit each other. We kept playing, mostly just chatting while exploring old content and unlocking random achievements - I maxed out every class and unlocked Loremaster while playing with him. Even though he got married and had kids to look after, we'd still find time to play every so often. Then, finally, BFA came out. I bought it, leveled my toon to max, realised I wasn't enjoying the game as much, but figured that it was mostly that my friend wasn't playing with me. He'd made it to level 114, which made sense, as his time was more limited than my own. I leveled a second character to match him so we could play together when he had the time. He never logged back on. I messaged him after I hadn't seen him online for a bit, and he said that he just wasn't finding it enjoyable any more, and with his limited available free time he had decided to spend his time doing things he enjoyed. We told each other we'd meet up again at some point soon IRL - we didn't - and that was it. The game felt emptier without him in it, and the last thing that was keeping me from realising that I wasn't enjoying the game any more was gone. I disliked the microtransactions, the lack of community, the clunky PVP, and the mechanics designed around getting you to play every three days felt like a chore, and made me anxious... Before the anxiety curdled into resentment at Blizzard for introducing increasingly obvious gambling/FOMO mechanics in place of trusting in the quality of their game. I stopped playing before the various scandals hit, but the scandals solidfied my decsion. I eventually uninstalled Battle.net (or whatever its called nowadays), and it's only videos like this that reminds me that when I was ten years old I'd pretend to be sick so I could play more Warcraft 2. Thanks for the nostalgia.
Yo sorry to read about loosing a friend. I think that's the major problem with these games(mmo). They need you to stay online for hours and hours and that's not possible any more. Try to find a game to play with your friend like any moba: lol, smite, mobile mobas, etc. They don't need that much time and also every game lasts for
I was 20 something yo when i started WoW when it came up. And to this day, Vanilla and BC, my time in that universe at that moment are some, no, they are the best gaming memory i have. And that, this company cannot take away.
i wish i couldve experienced it in the first place. i was too broke as a kid to afford wow, and only got to play it in BFA. ive tried playing the OG warcraft games and classic to try to relive the lore and genuine experience, but it really just isnt the same
This brings back all the amazing memories and sad times ive had playing WoW. Best example i can think of was during TBC. My guild was progressing through SSC and TK pretty steadily. This was before they opened BT and MH to everyone. After a night of wiping on Kael. There was a lot of discourse, but it settled down for the most part. Went to sleep thinking everything was fine, only to login the next day and see about 20 people had left the guild and server xfer. I felt extremely hurt considering a couple of the people that left i thought we were really close. It double hurt seeing that, not only did no one say anything to me, but i was not included in their mass exodus. The GM and one officer left, tried to recruit, but there was no recovering. They called it quits and we disbanded. For about two weeks i kinda jist drifted. I started play less and less, and just felt like quitting. What was the point anymore. Honestly felt super lonely at the time. Especially after the Vent server got taken down. One night i decide to join a kara pug for the fun of it. We go in kill first boss no problems. Second boss we start wiping again and again. The shit geared MT that made the group, gets pissed and leaves. I tell them i'll raid lead and tank(warrior) the rest. We clear everything no problems. After we all leave. I get a message from an officer from the best guild on the server. They were the only ones farming BT/MH weekly. She says that three of the people in the raid were alts of players in that guild. She told me to apply to the guild and they would vouche for me. So i applied. A couple hours later another officer messages me and says thanks for helping his guildmates finish kara. They offer me a spot as a tank, and the rest his history. I played with that same guild from then until MoP when i finally quit the game. I became very close friends with many of my guildmates, and even lived together with a few. Who knew that the worst moment i ever felt playing WoW, would lead to some of the best memories i had in my life.
This. So much this. This is what WoW is about. Blizzard, you are like a loved one who has become a drug addict and keeps getting arrested and OD'ing. We stick by you because there is a shadow of the old you and we hope that you will come back to us, but deep down we know it's a lost cause.
I found this video today and it just really hit me in the feels. I still remember all of the fun I had in Vanilla, BC and WoTLK - all of the lifelong friends I made (and lost). My best friend - met in-game in Vanilla to originally raid Molten Core together. I went to a board game night over the weekend with two people, both of whom I met in WoW. WoW had a huge impact on my life (both good and bad). Just remember all of the hours on Vent just talking to people as we played. And then Cataclysm came and that was honestly the beginning of the end - stopped raiding hardcore (WoTLK I was raiding ~5 nights a week and just burned out). MoP happened and I still played regularly but it was more like 30 minutes - hour a night. WoD came out and the new games and I just was like "this isn't the game I signed up for" and stopped playing. My life revolved around WoW for probably 6 years or so. I still miss those times but now my life has changed and I have new interests and people in it because of this game.
WoD with those damn Garrisons that absolutely gutted the “community” from the cities was a massive misstep even Blizzard turned hard from but I will say as much of a letdown as Shadowlands was, Dragonflight has ended up being utterly fantastic and the nostalgia fun I’ve had since Mists! It even has elements of old Vanilla to it!
@@rhysioeren3203 Sounds like you need to realize people have memorable experiences and like to recall them. Just because your some looser doesn't mean you have to spread your depression elsewhere.
@@DiamondTear TBC Classic introduced boosts and pay for bonuses like mounts. Its history repeating itself all over again, one of the things that caused the immense decline in the game, and at the end, he's getting out before the heartbreak happens all over again.
@@DiamondTear Ill tell you whats bad. Thanks to boosts no one is doing anything in azeroth and everyone is in outland. Thats whats bad. (No leveling = No making ties with people to play with.)
@@SirBuljo Seconded. I have seen games right before they die. Their leveling zones are barren, having no purpose anymore. Everyone is in whatever serves as a hub. World PvP doesn't exist - even griefers don't leave the hubs, because there's no targets left. Boosts put a price tag on leveling. It's an admission that they see their own leveling system as a chore, something that deserves to be skipped. Growing a character is supposed to be part of the fun, and the entire reason these gigantic zones exists in the first place. Without leveling, what was the purpose of designing all this content?
The part where friends start to disappear and move on really hit home. I miss the people that I got to know back then. The good thing is that there are new communities to try and find. Until then. Well done man. Well done.
@@Ankhergaming ZT for the win! Lots of horrific 5 lvl70 party Alli ganking low leveling hordies, but apart from that it's FTW. Alos check out Hydraxian Waterlords, the other RP realm. It's not PVP though, so it's not as active
I still talk to a dude I met in BC. He quit the game around Warlords to focus on his work, but he still pops in now and then to play a month or two at a time.
@@krazykanuckjr1425 That would be rough man. I hope you will be able to find those same experiences with new people when you are ready. I cherish the past experiences and admittedly long for them but I also look forward to doing it all over again in a new community someday.
this made me emotional a little, made great friends and memories with this game and now its stagnant and never the same. im the last of my friends that play. had my roommate pick up the game to play with me, cuz he never played before, and even he said "man you can tell how fun this game used to be", ah kicked me right in the gut :,). id hate to retire the game but... sad days. forever in my heart RIP barrens/Goldshire trade chat :,)
I still remember when Totalbiscuit (Rip) played WoW back in its heyday. Upon being asked if there would ever be a "WoW killer" he responded with a resounding "No. The only thing that will kill WoW, is WoW itself."
I still remember and miss the beginning, where you needed to use the type of weapon, what you wanted to be your main weapon, just to increase your famialirity with said weapon, and could increase your profiency with it... I had an orc shaman, who i trained really hard with unarmed attack, just to make it still efficient with a WarCraft 3 appearance - complete with the wolf head headpiece from Zul Farrak - the "Embrace of the Lycan", and claw weapons. The ruination begun, when the developers considered the often hard work of developing the right amount of skills is not alluring to the players lazier, but more wealthier half, so they changed it to "iif you have enough gold and level , you can get anything immediately"...
I haven't played the game in years except to try out BFA for a couple of months. It was so different, and I didn't feel compelled to keep going. I missed starting out as a dwarf hunter in TBC, exploring Dun Morogh and shooting troggs, keeping track of my ammo, getting new armor and weapons, going to Kharanos and drinking some Rhapsody Malt, exploring the snowy landscape and then moving onto other areas in the surrounding kingdom. Making tons of friends and doing stupid, aimless things because we didn't know what we were doing, but it was part of the fun. That level of 'awe' and wonder at what everything around you was. But the game has lost that spark, and it started in Cataclysm, the last time I played before my BFA bit. It'll never be the same.
The great majority of us are in the acceptance phase, just depends how long we spent in the denial phase.. resubbing every year or so to see if anything had changed.
@@HomicideJack187 Explorin Dun Morogh Shootin Trogs Keepin track of ammo [The true spirit of fun] As a huntard main that rolled blood elf. This hits me in the feels. I regret some of the choices I made, but I still kept my first pet. All the way until the day I left the game before Arthas opened up. And my black war wolf mount, and the pet that shared the same skin due to a bug in hellfire dungeons.... I miss that.
@Naveen KV ruclips.net/video/qkHr_tQLosc/видео.html They wanna pull a fast one on us and pretend like everything he's done up until Shadowlands has been a fraud and he never had any loyalties to the Lich King and shit.
And the truth shall set you free...2005 24/7 player who quit mid Cata. Came back for classic. I was literally addicted and the way I found my way out was downloading the sound tracks from the games on my ipod and went for walks listening to them. Escape was easy afterwards.
This video means that you have to grow up! Its explaining that is time to make a family, to make a baby and live IRL ... i started play wow late..in 2008 and i still have subscription but i play 1 h per month in last 2 years..all my friends have familys and childs and dont have time to play anymore. Somehow I'm in this guy skin....and I understand the hidden message :) if you stated in 2004 when you had 14 years now now you must have 31 yo :) i started at 18 and have 32 ... 30 is a age when you start your life :)
@@SirJohnatan bruh I'm 20 in trade school rn. I played this when I was like 9. Was just saying that the state the game is going into is sad cause it's semi-destroying it.
@@SirJohnatan This may come as a shock to you but not everyone is meant to be or has any interest in being a parent. The 'hidden message' is of a disillusioned player chased away by Blizzard giving in to rampant greed and the players that enabled it, not... whatever the hell you're talking about just because you have to build up cognitive biases justifying why you think, just because you and your social circle prioritized families over hobby pursuits, everyone else should, too.
@@Alienoiable the current devs are just as bad. Theyre so self-obsessed and hellbent on creating esoteric endgame systems that no one cares about and are impossible to balance. Imagine how much content we would've gotten if they didn't have to put all their energy into balancing a bunch of garbage like covenants.
I mean the Blizzart Carbot loved and trusted isn't no more. The people that made blizzard reliable, fun and understanding all left one after the other as activision took over. Now it's just activision behind the blizzard name and it just hurts.
@@BaneRain hate to break it to you but a lot of the current devs are the same devs as back in classic/tbc/wotlk. Of course some of the "faces" have left, but most of those behind are still the OG's.
Going to tell a personal story. I played as a hunter in wow 2019 classic having been introduced to the game by family. Leveled yhrough all of it and made tons of friends. I have people on my friends tab rn that i haven't spoken to in 3 years. Yet i know if i talk, they will awnser. I joined a raiding guild in Wrath for the first time as wel tried (and failed) to progress through ICC. Cata comes around, all my friends are gone. Im sitting here waiitng... Doing GDKP runs... Waiting. The magic was gone. But i was still tethered to the game by the past. Thank you for Season of Discovery because it allowed me to re discover that magic as a more mature person. Once SoD is over i might step away for good however. A noce clean break. Thank you everyone who cared to read
I was the human warlock that almost quit altogether in the second year of WoW. If it wasn't a providential reversal of getting right into the raids, I might have stopped playing WoW altogether. Even when Vanilla was Retail, I learned right away that people sucked and that the call of the soloist was the only one I could answer.
Idk buddy, sounds like poor choices. I've been playing on warmane (former molten wow) for more than a decade, and the feeling is still the starter one 🤷
Omg I actually cried during this . Over an effing game. But up to BFA the stories and the people got me through one of the toughest times of my life. I’ll always be grateful for that. Sounds so over the top but I feel like I’m probably not the only one. ❤
WoW is basically becoming the video game equivalent of the Simpsons. The modern version still looks like the thing you love but everything feels wrong since the soul is gone. :’(
TBH it died for me once WotLK finished as it dealt with WC3+Expac story wise. The rest was content that was just added in to justify more expansions as it was proper cash cow at that point. Lets face it Blizzard are Blizzard in name only, the people who made that name are gone, the name is a skin for Activision now just like any other developer. Time to move on.
its kinda ironic how there is hundreds, maybe even thousands, of wow players in this comment section alone, complaining about how nobody wants to team up, make friends, in the game.
I don't know man, the whole company went radio silence for years every time they fucked up. I have my doubts they'll risk a blizcon with the current perception of their products. They'd probably lose more customers with whatever out of season April fools joke they sink $13 into next.
I watch it over and over again, because it hits the home. This video is not only about WoW, but rather the history of online gaming in last two decades. The exploration, the experience, the social part... and much more. All faded away throughout the years that passed. We lost too much on the way
aaand this is why WoW fans are perceived as such insufferable whiners nowadays. As if gaming, for everyone, was born with WoW and died with WoW. You're allowed to be nostalgic and to reflect on your own experience, but you don't have to make generalizations like this. Because that's very much the history of WoW and its community. And it's sad enough like this.
@@Ezullof I have never played WoW, but been playing games since decades. And I assure you, maybe not everything, but general points I mentioned are and have been exactly the same for the most online gaming. Also, I did not claim the gaming is dead. There are still good games being made and I very much enjoy all of them. But the difference is just... there. Even MMOs like GW2 became more about checking marks on the map than exploring and digging stuff up. It was one of the key points of the game. Games changed, gamers also changed
@@EzullofOnline gaming has died. There is just not much fun anymore. I can make this generalisation because I pretty much tried everything with my friends. Gaming Companies are just Greedy Conglomerates nowadays.
@@Ezullofpeople who never played WoW are like the illiterates who say, “OMG STOP SAYING THE BOOK WAS BETTER THAN THE MOVIE, NO ONE CARES!!!” Or even the pompous asshole who says, “the book was so much better than the movie, you have no idea”. The thing about WoW is that some of us played and we never asked your f’n opinion
@@Ezullofthat’s not at all what he said. And his comment is completely true. Games are soulless grindathons now. The journey doesn’t matter now just the end result. You’re just too simple to see what the video or comments are about.
Holy crap. I've watched dozens of vids about this issue and you captured it in less than 3 mins without a single word. That's true art in my book. Btw, i love the aesthetic of the screen bit, before it zooms into the chat.
which part of it is fun? i get the anticipation of specs coming to fruition, the loot drops to come, and the trying of new dungeons. what else is there? The consistency of highs has greatly diminishing returns. I went from enjoying Diablo 2 and DnD groups, to trying WoW. WoW had some of the highs from both, but to a much lesser extent. Is there something that WoW has that D2 or Tabletop RP doesnt give(apart from pvp and global epic achievement)?
@@CliveBurr4 Considering that homebrew is a thing DnDs world is virtually endless. What WoW really has or had is a possibility to actually find players that have the same schedule as you. Hardly everyone has 6 friends to play DnD with on a regular basis. That is jsut the deciding difference; games are finite and you always reach a point when you are merely going fo bigger numbers. Or if the game doesn't have that kind of feature you start over or just no longer play it.
@@gabbonoo One of my favourite things to do in WoW prior to being able to fly everywhere was exploration. Sneaking into Alliance territory as a Horde player, or finding a way to access parts of the map that were only included for flavour & never really intended to be visited or something that was just so remote nobody ever really went there. You can absolutely do those in D&D but it was extra rewarding in a video game where it was designed to keep you out of those places. Overall I'd say what an MMO offers that a TTRPG doesn't is the "massively" part of the acronym. With a massive player count you never know what your usual trip to your usual stomping grounds might bring. One of my earliest servers was a PvP server where we were badly outnumbered and every day was a struggle. It was never so bad that I couldn't get things done. It just forced me to try harder and find different ways to accomplish things.
@@gabbonoo The part where you get visual on the actual adventure. And you meet new people to play with. You don't get the feeling of being part of a server community with thousands of other players in D2 and d&d. Though I don't blame Blizzard for this. I blame the community itself. They are their own worst enemy. The loot has become 1st priority and community 2nd.
I really cried. It was the best experience with gaming i ever had. 14 years of my life and now everything is gone. I guess i’ll enjoy remembering the old times.
Nothings "gone". The memories and experiences you had still exist. People move on, relationships change and sometimes end. Dragging it out and making it ugly trying to love something you no longer love is the real problem. Move on, be glad for what you had, and think about that instead of the failures of "what is".
I have never played WoW until the last few weeks. My girlfriend lives half way across the world from me atm and she suggested we play it, having been in it from the start. We are playing classic together. I have never experienced something like this tbh, it's amazing. And i am just very thankful that I can share it with her.
I think a little over two decades now, I always considered getting a sub for this game, and I finally did, but It's sad to see this video because I'll never get to experience that time. Though i've been enjoying this game immensley
@@equasian2702 are you playing wrath or retail? Also you got anyone to play with? If not we could play together perhaps and work through some of the old content in classic :) Good time for it as cata will be out soon
if ever Wow becomes hard due to toxicity, give ffxiv a go, its one of the few Mmo's that still feels like its in its "Golden Age" and the community unbelievably daft and friendly
I kinda feel like this is a cop out excuse people use. My D&D group still plays regularly after 30+ years and hundreds of campaigns. My circle of friends that enjoy fighting games still come over once a month to play Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat after 30 years. But somehow this argument is always thrown out about WoW that the game isn't enjoyable because we got older. Sorry but I don't buy it, and people denying the fact that the game HAS changed massively need to wake up.
@@shadowviruz The truth is, the players had already brought boosting to WoW Classic, it was just happening with gold buying on dodgy websites and aoe dungeon farming mages ingame. I hate everything about it, but you cannot deny that the retail playerbase made that a reality in Classic.
Ouch, my feels. This literally made me cry - because it’s so true. I ended my sub a few months after SL… as I’ve ended my sub before. But this is the last time. It’s the people and the nostalgia of better times that kept me coming back… but those people are gone - and the game has deteriorated. I was hopeful for WoW2 on an updated engine - with maybe some new innovations since Blizz WAS a pioneer… but instead we got classic and now TBC. This tells me that Blizz KNOWS nostalgia is the only thing holding their player base. Now… I look forward to Ashes of Creation and a new start.
I cancelled my sub fairly recently too and like you, this is actually the end of my time with wow for good. Played since vanilla only skipping cata but I'm well and truly done now. Thankful for the great memories at least but that's all it'll be now 👍🏻
theres no fresh start, wow was that good back in the day cuz the internet was so primitive, so you couldnt find anything, now AoC will be good as a mmo maybe, but it wont have that experience of joining a new world full of people, making friends, etc
That was honestly the saddest video I've seen in years. I feel like that's exactly how it all happened for me, same timeline and all. But I feel very fortunate that I got to experience all of it 🥺
I played from 06-2017 then again from 2019 till 2022? So many great ana bad memories from this game. I miss my friends from my old servers. I hope they are doing well.
Auch, that hit home more. Played since beta vanilla, and having a really hard time coming up with good arguments for my friends to come back and hang out in WoW
My dad played in beta and I took over his acct when he passed away, didn’t hit max level myself until cata but by then all his friends from that era had stopped playing.
As someone that started about a month or two after launch, this video is pretty much my WoW life and it gave me a realisation. In Vanilla, you didn't meet so many people. You had a small group of friends around your level, you learned to work together as a team, you slowly turned into IRL friends. Now you meet dozens of people every day for 5 minutes here or 30 mins there. You don't travel together and the ease of the challenges mean a lot can be soloed anyway. In short, modern WoW gives little incentive to invest in relationships with other players. To put it in a nutshell - quick disposable content creates quick disposable player interactions. So it is little surprise that people will keep drifting away. I miss the friends I had at the beginning. I miss the hard group quests we overcame together and I see *nothing* that leads me to believe those times will come back. And that's why this video hurts.
exactly what I feel like after these years of playing WOW. The worst thing is that I come back from time to time in an attempt to bring back that unique experience, and there is none of it there anymore. Pointless grind, pointless quests and pointless raids. And some people in comments are talking about 'oh there is similar experience just in another game' are wrong. There is and will be no game like WoW, because you can't go back in time even if you really want to. This video like really hurts by how accurate it is.
exactly this. I made a lot of friends who were like minded. We did almost everything together, and shared more irl stuff than actual irl friends. nowadays its all about raider io score, cr, achievement,...ppl treat each other like some disposable animals. My friends already quit, all of them. And I have no intention making friends anymore, especially with the current hamster wheel system.
I disagree. What really changed over the expansions is that WoW made it easier for you to join strangers which then lead to players just playing with strangers more because it is easier, faster and more convenient. You can still do those things that you see here. You can still build (and destroy) new communities, meet new people and make friends. You can still find nice people to talk to and play with. But while the original WoW and its early expansions made it necessary to do so, the modern WoW shows you what happens if you remove those hurdles. So the question is: Do you want to invest the time we invested back then. Can you really stop yourself from using the easy way? Quick check for you: - Do you try to talk to people today when you meet them for dungeon groups? - Do you add people you played with to your friend list to maybe play more dungeons later? - Do you actively look for people to play with or do you expect to randomly bump into them? - Do you try to build groups to do content together for longer than a dungeon or two? Personally, I NEED a guild to play WoW. I need this social group I play with and talk to in Discord and I have never been without at least a small guild with people I want to play with. And I experience WoW most of the time very much in the beautiful way it is shown here - in Shadowlands that is.
Just a quick addition: I agree with Carbot a lot here btw.. I am not a friend of unlimited level boosts, shop mounts and so on. I just feel that we all get a little too nostalgic about the "good old years" (which is what we sometimes criticize about things our grandparents, bosses, ... tend to say) and it sometimes help to take a step back and have a look at ones perspective. For example: I met quite a few nice people (which I play with to this day) by having access to the LFG tool which I would have never met otherwise. I also happened to try to push for r.io score solo and the experience is just bad then. Same game, just a different angle of tackling a challenge.
Meanwhile in Activision Headquarters "Sir a WoW video is trending on youtube" "Great, what's it about?" "Uhh.. Well there's mounts and stuff Sir" "Very good Johnson, release the Rainbow Flying Auction House Cauldron Mount (Sparkly Effect Modifier) early"
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dang it carbot, i came here to laugh
not to cry
lol
i feel ya;
youre there when many of these expacs came out and to the videos associated with blizzard's games bro, i miss you haha
wtf, this video is so on point it hurts
And yet, I find myself doing both.
Thank you for your animations on madness
16 years ago during vanilla, I met this little tauren druid leveling near crossroads on the server Vashj-EU, he asked me if I could help him kill some quillboars for this one quest. I said sure, and we became friends. 16 years later and we're still best friends and have met up several times irl since he is luckily from Sweden and myself from Denmark.
That’s amazing
That’s actually pretty wholesome
You are very lucky my man. I also did irl meet up with my guild but after just few years, everyone quit the game and then that was it…Kinda hard to keep the online friendship I think.
Well now that’s heartfelt
Sygt nok
It’s amazing how the same music that made it feel extra happy in the beginning made it feel extra sad near the end.
Thanks for putting my unrealized thoughts into words.
The music in this video is genius and I only realised it after your comment. Holy shit this guy is talented.
Wouldn't that be because the music was neutral, so the video set the tone?
In nostalgia longing and joy are as one...
We enjoy longing for what is gone
and long for joy forever lost.
Toby Fox level music, IMO
It hurts. So unbelievably accurate. No game has impacted my life more than this one
I saw the downward trend during cata, and only returned at periods to see if it got better. This video actually hurts bad because how true it really is. Blizzard being picked up by Activision destroyed something loved by so many, and the business practices are now standard for them, even though people on mass hates it. Wife and I are playing SoD, but it's not the same, good, but that wonder is gone. Private servers honestly encapsulate the feeling better than blizzard, which is crazy to think.
It's sad but boy did the world change a lot, especially online, throughout that time. It was a magical moment in time. Actually met my wife in Stormwind many years ago. Thank god I needed some 10 slot bags, otherwise she'd have just been another tailor spamming /2 chat 😊
a piece of my soul is still wandering in those lands ... it will never be forgotten
bro... for real
"You will not be forgotten brother! I must be forgotten Tirion" ............... my soul still wanders in WOTLK :( good times ... really good times
@mark rinfield shut up lmao
*R E M E M B E R*
*W H A T*
*T H E Y*
*H A V E*
*T A K E N*
*F R O M*
*Y O U*
We can create the same land on in this place
The worst thing about being in the golden years of something, is that you only know they were the golden years after.
"Someone should write a song about that"
Tried the free week, still can’t bring myself to care about the game after hearing stuff like “every class is available to every race roadmap”
@@shnorkeythefourth4572 try out HC, still good
@@grocksauce7422 what’s that?
@@shnorkeythefourth4572 harcore WoW, classic or wotlk, if you die you delete your char. If you hit max level you can keep your char but no more hardcore-stuff
This is beautiful. I started in november 2004. My dad had always been a gamer since i can remember him playing warcraft 1 and diablo, he got me WoW for me as a year 12 graduation present, i was 18. He soon became hooked. He made a guild and they raided from vanilla through to Lich King. Those nights of him raiding and the excitment he had made me feel so happy. I miss you dad. I miss wow during its glory days. I have a family of my own now but my kids dont even know what wow is. Feels like a life time ago. Ill never forget those years.
Então ensine seus filhos oque são jogos bons. Pare de deixa los jogar porcarias como minecraft,free fire e fortnite
That was beautiful dude. Don't be sad that it's over. Be happy that it happened. Time for us to both go hug our kids.
@@Rufiowascool Well said!
@@Steverogers-s8k nothing wrong with minecraft :p
I also startet playing WoW 2004. It was a beutiful Time and there was a kind of Magic in the Air.
Dont be sad. This golden Memorys never die.
Greetings from Germany
90% of the magic has faded away, but there are kids out there doing exactly what we did but in different games. Making lifelong friendships through the video games that we play, and these years will be the golden years for *them* .
😢
Maybe but with a monetized driven industry- it will be very VERY rare - almost every game now day has a pay to win element - 2005 back it was a very almost none existing concept.
lol the gaming industry is dead - there are no kids like us anymore.
Agree, but in different games and different genres like Minecraft and Fortnite. WOW has no longer wooow effect
Yeah, sure, lifelong. *Last online 9 years ago*
100% nailed it. Been here since 2005 and you summarized the shifts in community, interactions, and gameplay perfectly. I feel like a big thing WoW originally had going for it at the start was how the internet was still a bit of a novelty but now there's so much competition and it's oversaturated and it doesn't feel as magical. Oh well. Great cartoon tho CB
It’s not just WOW. Every mmorpg ever. Lineage, Aion, Tera, EVE Online… and it’s definitely not that I’ve grown up. It’s just not fun anymore. So many time savers for irl money, instant teleport stuff, top gear just handed to you doing main story quests… absolutely no sense of achievement and it gets dull very quickly.
Didn't know u play wow
@@theUBERsashimi 😂
Beautiful! And so true, i felt nostalgic and sad at the same time. Bravo!
Or the game just turned into a moneygrab trash...
Brainless games for brainless monkeys have flooded the market, catering to the lowest tier of human intelligence.
Make games challenging again and hardcore gamers will enjoy them just as always.
With how much stuff you have done in support of blizzard and together with them I’m surprised you could create such a critically damning video of them. That takes a lot of balls.
Getting the truth on the table is sometimes the one best thing a friend can do for another.
I thought exactly the same
I Think carbot dont like Blizzard actions to in the last years so he made the video
You know how the saying goes, "You really have to love something to trully hate it"
They probably skipped a paycheck XD
Channels like these are rarely cooperated with for long. Usually the corporation wants to grab some of the current hype & popularity, sell some MTX / Merch and then move on to the next thing. Same here.
This doesn't just hits close to home. This is more like break and entry.
comment win... for a vid that won the oscar for most feels of this year
@@narmale carbot has always been able to stir emotions when he hardly uses any dialogue. but this resonates on a different level. it's honestly heartbreaking to see almost exactly what i did in wow for years turn into what it has become. a soulless game where all you do is stand around, que for something, and talk to no one.
i miss my home.
I put the cash stuff out of my mind because I was having so much fun. Breaking and entry is right.
Dropped a tsar bomb on my whole neighborhood more like
there wasnt even an outro... or intro. just... sadness
When you pug a dungeon, it's rare anyone even says "hi" or "thank you" at the end. It's just run thru as quickly as possible and leave group as fast as humanly possible.
One of the worst things about retail. And since dungeons are one of the most efficient ways to level, that’s all you’ll get. Nothing…
Yeah, thats so sad. I feel like I am playing with bots. Thats why I am currently more enjoying season of discovery, the players say/write more. You can find groups for hard quests by just writing in the chat. It's almost like in the good old days.
It's terrible. I seriously hate it and there are people in retail that just don't understand the importance of communication in mmos. They play it like it's a single player game never uttering a single word
You can be the change you want to see in the world
@@iain-duncannot really, majority of people seem to be blissfully hooked on a dopamine loop of numbers and loot, there is little to no social interaction. even gamers aren't completely antisocial, or at least they weren't always
I'm not even a WoW player but this was damn sad...
Me too 😭
Me three.
I don’t play wow either but damn it’s depressing
Me four
I was only WarCraft 3 RTS player, not WoW and this is sad also...
This video does not feel like it's just three minutes long.
And IT sad :(
It feels like it’s years long.. memories of the past 15+ or so years.
agreed. I don't even play WoW, I only have a brief moment playing on private server and now... seeing this make me sad. It's a memory of 15 years+ mmo and it's dying....
It feels about 13 years long to me. :(
Feels about 15 years long..
This hurt... so much more than I expected it to.
True
@Dominic Bandara I've played WoW since vanilla. WoW was my first love. Haha
@@leocalder haha game u play bad, game i play good, updoots to the left fellow redditors
@@heavensborne i don't use reddit, don't really care for it.
Yeah I've been playing since 2007 when I was 10 and this is too real
I was playing retail one day and saw a group of low levels running through Elwyn Forrest I joined their party and they where talking up a storm in party chat asking me questions and seemed amazed by some of the things I was saying. They started playing the game for the first time about 2 days prior and they said the game was amazing and that they’ve been having a blast. Everytime they got some item that wasn’t actually worth a damn they would be stellar about it. Anytime they saw someone fly by on a store mount they were in aw. New zones got them hyped.
And it brought a since of peace and acceptance to my mind. Ya the magic is gone for us who have been playing for 8+ years but there are still new players who come and get to experience the magic for the first time and that made me really happy kinda like a mentor passing the torch to their apprentice. It’s not the same magic but it instills the same feeling we all had way back when. I hope that group is still going strong it’s been about a month since I saw them.
Last thing I ever did on my OG tauren warrior tank was fly back to Thunder Bluff, then ride back to Bloodhoof Village, go to the warrior's circle, and sit down on one of the mats. He'd gotten me through Zul'Gurub, Molten Core, Onyxia...then BE pally tanks came around in WotLK and warrior tanks weren't popular anymore. I'd spent more time on my rogue, but then no one wanted rogues in raids anymore. I tried doing PvP but that ended up becoming a repetitive parody.
I handed off my guildmaster position to my friend, went to Bloodhoof Village, had my tauren sit on an empty mat in the warrior circle, and actually felt empty inside as I signed off for the last time, a month before Cataclysm was released.
Istvarrh, tauren warrior, guildmaster of The Grownup Guild on Suramar server. I won't forget those years.
Man, this hit way too close to home...
Wtf do you mean? This _is_ home. This is what the game has become. It's what players voted for by buying store mounts and level boosts. Activision Blizzard is a dying company, and WoW is a mockery of what it once was.
@@Jakeito413
Like every game series ever?
@@Nutsaur that's inaccurate
@@Jakeito413 we voted and Blizzard never listens, all they care is how to get max profit.
@@Nutsaur Yeah, every game series since the concept of games has been perpetually made shallower and shallower for the sake of chasing profit.
Oh wait no, actually only trash companies who picked share holders as their primary customers do that to their franchises.
You are welcome for the reality check.
This is literally the most depressing thing Carbot has ever animated. And I saw the last episode of StarCrafts.
don't remind me that ULTRASAD episode...
That episode never happened.
*SPOILERS* What're we talking about? I've played all of them and feel like I'm missing something.
@@GuntherCloneC Carbot has 7 seasons of an animated show like this video but it's based on StarCraft and follows the games and DLC over the years. The final episode was heart wrenching.
@@Raynedog00 But also beautiful, as the Marine and the Medic had a happy ending together. But along with Carbot, I feel that the game Starcraft 2 (and Starcraft as a whole) is finally done. But.. while not perfect (nothing can beat the Starcraft 1 story), the ending of Starcraft 2 was good enough I think :)
This is the most critical of Blizzard that I’ve ever seen Carbot be.
Right on the money ......
Honestly, I always thought that despite all fandom Carbot has always been quite critical about the company.
did u noticed he didnt used the intro "im being repressed"
@@darksoul18 I think that’s what the video says… :/
It's critical of the player base, not Blizzard, but go off
I'm late but, this made me cry. I miss this time so much, 14 years of my life that will never happen again in another game. So many friends come and gone. Thanks for the memories ❤
You're not late.
I've met and made so many friends on hc wow. Even met up with a guy I met last weekend and we had the best time.
we have to somehow get back to this. There has got be enough of us that feel this way
Dude, you got my highest respects for posting this video while knowing that Blizzard endorse your videos (used them at Blizzcon etc).
This was spot-on and almost made me shed a tear. The original WoW without any expansions was one of the best experiences a gamer could have had.
nah, BC was the fix for the many issues that original had, although when badge gear was introduced from Bobby taking over you could already hear the wind starting to blow in the dying limbs
@@narmale Yes, original WoW was unique when it came out, but it had many glaring problems. Like I don’t think I ever did a 40 man raid with 40 man in vanillia, because of server instability. Paladins and bears were missing a few abilities to actuelly tank and so on.
TBC fixed that. There is a few things from wotlk that could have been used in tbc, but I think that tbc was were WoW really became “complete”
And now they will break ties with carbot, because they can't handle criticism. Just look at the bald one, he is always critical of wow even though he loves the game more than probably anyone. And Blizz does not even acknowledge he exists, it is like company PR policy to ignore him, even though he is like the biggest streamer and most known WoW content creator.
Its like a farewell letter to a long time friend and I think it was spot on and beautiful.
@@caffeinefuelled9186 i still talk to 3 friends i met in vanilla... still have their phone numbers... and i just texted all 3 to watch this... i dont think any of us will have dry eyes after this
This got more views and likes than WoW's latest patch trailer.
Because the only thing wow has to offer, is memories.
Your comment too
No one watches patch trailers bud
@@pineapples7449 This comment is on point. Thank you!
@@Thraxxor90 They're cinematics, ofc people watch them.
I had a NE hunter in a PvP realm and once saw someone with the rare echeyakee white lion pet. The moment I saw it I wanted it so bad. I heard I had to run to barrens to get it. After an epic journey on foot I finally got to the spawn location and only then realized after reading more details online it could only be spawned by a horde quest. I was so disappointed. It just so happened an undead player was running past me and instead of him attacking me, and me attacking him, I jumped up and down and /pointed to the area where echeyakee spawned. He /nodded to me, then told me to /wait. He ran off...and after 15 minutes of almost giving up, he came back, spawned echeyakee and I tamed him! I will never meet this player or know who he/she was, but memories like these stick with you forever and anyone who never played WoW could ever understand the impact these moments have on us.
As a hunter main I just want to say, that’s a beautiful story!!
It’s so true. I’ve had so many of these type of experiences in wow an it’s why it will always be close to my heart.
One of my fav things was back in the day during classic or tbc, you'd ask a gm to restore a deleted character. They'd say 'limited amount of restores, blahblahblah this is likely your last one now'.
I figured I had deleted my alliance on the realm and when the gm said 'Have you made sure there arent any alliance characters on this realm', I said yes. Relogged and noticed I had a horde character and my alliance character on the same server. Both worked, I was able to create more alliance characters, but not horde. Was a really cool bug I never even bothered to use.
One other funny thing is I remember the one rare time I've seen a gm on the PTR was around wrath I believe. I saw some guy randomly fall from near the ceiling in ironforge (where the deep gap is, somewhat near the tram). Bubbled as he was falling and lived, asked him if he somehow glitched up there, said he was teleported. Invites me to group and suddenly hes teleported into the lava at the forge, this random druid and I start healing him through the fire ticks, he vanished again. Apparently a GM tried to kill him a few times and left him in Winterfall lol. I forget what he did, but I actually made a gm ticket and the gm said 'yeah that was me, I like to give people a warning first, something something.' Was pretty damn funny.
Such a nice story, and actually I need to tell you something. That player, the undead who you met in the Barrens all those years ago, the one who spawned the pet for you...
...that was not me. But imagine how cool it would be if that person replied here. :)
@@ArtEqualsLife As a undead warrior main, i just want to say, that's a beautifull story!!! I have similar stories, and totally opposite stories too :D Hunter was great in Wotlk. Warr was great in vanilla/BC
Having that box in your hand along with the time card is a feeling that I’ve long forgotten. It was just different kind of emotion that I will probably never experience in my life again. Now I know I’m not the only one with this type of nostalgia.
There were literally millions of people like that.
Even finding the time cards for that game are just pure nostalgia copium. I do miss playing it, and I might shell out the funds during the anniversary month. Token prices are just too high to keep grinding, even across multiple characters.
you'll have tones of those moments going forward into your old age. maybe its an old cologne or perfume smell that takes you back, or maybe you buy the box version of WOW again off ebay and it has the time card and still has that smell, or you buy your first car again and make it how it was when you where 18. I think a lot of people go through these moments or long for trying to reacquire what they once had and many succeed in recreating these memories, like guys who have memorabilia pool rooms. likewise, 10-20yrs from now you'll be missing the moment you have right now and whatever it is that makes it even mildly special.
Wish I could have that kind of nostalgia again, every time I look at wow I wanna go back to it. Though I know the feelings and enjoyment of it will never be the same as the first time.
When leveling my first character I had a feral druid guild member who would always do dungeons and their quests with me. Back then this was quite the hassle as you often had to finish long quest chains to grab them, assemble a decent party, walk to the dungeon and be able to finish it. Not that I am complaining, it felt awesome. I did not have much knowledge about the game, and one day asked my guild chat if rogues could have pets. They knew of our leveling bond and jokingly said Kioshiro, the druid, was my pet as he would follow me around prowling like a pet would.
We ended up being close ingame, but after some time life had forced me to leave World of Warcraft and I lost contact. When I came back he no longer played.
This silly interaction is one of my warmest memories in World of Warcraft.
I'm not crying, you are!
I once meet an ingame blood elf girl fishing in orgrimmar, i asked to her what is she fishing and we started to talk about the game. Day after days playing together we starting to talk about our lives on Facebook for months.
A day i told to here that i bough a train ticket and gonna meet her for real for an entire week. The result is we started a relationship but this ended cause of the long distance between her and me.
Almost 13 years after we continue talking times to times. She dont play anymore and she has a daughter. She remain my best memorie from this game
I remember being a level 20-something dwarf hunter on Anvilmar during WotLK back when I started playing. I had gone into BGs and saw a blood elf with that bright red cat that shows up in their starting area. So I asked in the guild I was in if anyone knew where to get it. Someone in my guild, I think a death knight, escorted me all the way from Ironforge to the blood elf starting zone so I could tame one for myself.
One of my own fondest memories of the game.
I was a Warcraft fan since WC2, and when WoW launched I was one of the first ones out of the gate. I helped start a guild and got to be really good friends with a mage and a warrior. The three of us reached around level 30 after a couple of weeks and decided to go on an adventure. We set out from Stormwind and made the run up to Menethil. From there, we sailed to Auberdine. None of us had ever been to Kalimdor, and we wandered and explored for days. We eventually wound up in Desolace, back when there was literally nothing there. We spent a couple of days roaming the coast line, looking at all of the ruined towers and ancient buildings, fighting naga and elite sea giants.
Even now, 16 years later, I still hold those days of adventure with two of my closest friends from Wow dear.
@@StarlitSoryn I think most people's best memories of the game involved interactions of some form or another with other people in the game. Blizzard has essentially removed the need for player interaction from the game, so that it was easier for people to do things on their own. Problem is, they didn't realize that the player interaction part is what gave the game life.
Bravo. Fucking bravo. You've hit the nail on the heat, and done so with beauty.
what's up bro
stop making clickbait
@@borodmislovich8239 to be fair, only the title and thumbnails of his content are clickbaity, the actual content of the videos are pretty solid.
How bout that August release date? Haha
let me guess, your next video title will be "Sylvanas has daddy issue, Arthas will be shows up again for the second time, Illidan still can't stop jacking off on that married woman, Blizzard has teased us about my future life since WoW classic fifteen years ago"
-Father.. is it.. over?..
-At long last, no game rules forever my son.
-I see only monetization before me...
"-I see only monetization before me...'
Gold.
fck.. Underrated 😨
Yeah it is so true, no king rules forever *sad face*
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Mor Ok Angalor ♫
Mor Ok Gorum ♪
Palahm Raval ♫
Ro-Mun A'l Ga ♪
Ballog A'i Enthu ♫
Korok Na Boda ♪
@@victorcouturieux1726
The road that we walk
Is lost in the flood
Here proud angels bathe in
Their wages of blood
At this, the world’s end, do we cast off tomorrow
One brings shadow, one brings light
To this riddle all souls are tied
Brief our moments, brazen and bright
Forged in fury, tempered in ice
Hindmost devils, early to rise
Sing come twilight, sleep when they die
Heaven’s banquet leavened with lies
Sating honor, envy, and pride
One brings shadow, one brings light
Run from the light
Don't cry because it's over - smile because it happened.
I needed this. Thank you.
Or cry cause you wasted your life time and opportunities for this crap
@@thevikingsock8527 you must be real popular at parties 😂
Underrated comment
@@thevikingsock8527 both lol.
So depressing. So accurate. Sincerely, a decade-long guild leader, now standing alone.
Sorry for your loss. Our guild which had been around since TBC has just passed away as well as of last week. It’s rough out there right now and that is bringing out some of the worst in the people who are still left playing.
@@aroundthefur1210 I completely feel what you're saying. We set up in LK and since our guild's demise I floated briefly to try and find a progression guild that was chill but still looking for mythic progression and I just couldn't get the feeling back of our guild. Ended up raid-leading pugs instead, but that comes with its own pain. Swapped servers and ran into toxic hell. Swapped to classic and the guild there died too. Hopefully it will come good. Best of luck out there friend, thank you for the comment.
also, if you're name is a reference to the deftones album, I approve on so many levels :)
15 years playing and i went to new world..sad days but im having fun again
Same goes for Warcraft 3, its really sad.
Years of joy, memories, and disappointment captured in one tear-jerking slideshow
I think I felt what was left of my heart the moment I saw the BC battlepass.
This is such an emotional roller-coaster video
this was sad ='(
This is the world for an old man. You watch everything change around you and all your allies fade away. May the light be with you.
I cancelled my sub 3 days ago.
I was born and raised in Istanbul. When I was a kid my dream was to work for Blizzard. I am 31 one now, made all the right moves for my life goals and now I live in Long Beach and work in Orange county. My work is 20 minutes away from Blizzard HQ but I have never been so far away from the place where I wanted to be the most.
That's an interesting story. And i mean that.
Amazing comment and story
Thank you for your genuine comments y’all! I hope we can all get together in better adventures in the days to come!
Ulan be :(
3 days ago … It took you some time to realize it was all over
This video really hits home, especially as expansions went on and friends became less and less. The sweetest and most amazing person I ever met got lost somewhere in time and space and I miss her dearly, Shadlina. A Night Elf Druid, we used to play on Bloodhoof, and I myself a Night Elf Rogue at the time. She had a stroke at a young age and I remember our guild did everything it could to make sure she would be there doing the end game content with us no matter what. I can't believe the memories we hold so deeply buried within from the people we've met along the way. I miss you Shadlina, wherever you may be. Know that I never forgot about you.
I play on bloodhoof too. Started in cata when I bought good laptop. Lost my first account.
My Shadlina was Tashali on Sisters of Elune. One of the hardest lessons to learn is that not every friend you make is a forever friend, no matter how close you may have been. Things change, people change, sometimes you make a mistake. Life would be great if every friend I made since joining WoW in 2007 had kept in touch in some way, but, you know. Not always how it happens, even when the other person is everything you ever sought in a friend. Just hope she's doing well.
@@AA-yk7ki For what it's worth, you have one friend out here. Adulthood's lonely but it's not always gonna be that way.
Aww I remember my good old male friends where they played with me to have fun and not bc i was a girl now all of the guys that play try to get with me and if I reject them im called a whore or an egirl i wish I could go back where gender didnt matter and I played to have fun and not date ill never forget any of the cool friends i met at a young age but that are gone now..
I remember playing in a guild full of older folks ( 40s - 60s years old) back in 2006- 2008. Had a lot of fun with with them because they really matured. I feel like a good portion of them have passed it's sad thinking about that.
This is so cute and depressing. Fuck.
If only we had Wildstar to go to
@@dylanwright8757 lol
@@dylanwright8757 No need to hit us when we're down ;-;
Take this 1.000 like and go, be free my son!
This made me tear up man, it's so insanely accurate. Except people started quitting late cata and a lot during MoP for me. Had some fun in Legion but BFA the game was dead. Shadowlands did not revive the game like we hoped
This hit home. I stopped playing after Warlords of Draenor. I started when Burning Crusade released. I miss the golden years. But now i play again, and I have the best WoW buddy who can relate with me on the golden years.
I'm proud of you, Carbot. Even with all the support and endorsement, still making an honest and quality video. Thank you for never changing in this world of changes.
That's right
You know it's serious when he doesn't put any of his usually goofy stuff in, like the car horn at the beginning, or his channel plug.
"Hey guys, it's me, it's your best friend, Carbot!"
Local chat: "...."
@@SaltpeterTaffy That is a great analogy of how I/we feel attempting to enjoy WoW lately
Holy crap. I just noticed that...
When the party members started fading away, I felt that.
me too... this was just really heavy stuff
Yeah…. After BC, my guild started to fade and now it’s all just fond memories. I wanna keep it that way.
Like over 50 people I would consider ride or die.. All gone pre-battlenet integration. My heart.
Me too, me too
Angel Beats' memories 😕
Last thing I ever did on my OG tauren warrior tank was fly back to Thunder Bluff, then ride back to Bloodhoof Village, go to the warrior's circle, and sit down on one of the mats. He'd gotten me through Zul'Gurub, Molten Core, Onyxia...then BE pally tanks came around in WotLK and warrior tanks weren't popular anymore. I'd spent more time on my rogue, but then no one wanted rogues in raids anymore. I tried doing PvP but that ended up becoming a repetitive parody.
I handed off my guildmaster position to my friend, went to Bloodhoof Village, had my tauren sit on an empty mat in the warrior circle, and actually felt empty inside as I signed off for the last time, a month before Cataclysm was released.
Istvarrh, tauren warrior, guildmaster of The Grownup Guild on Suramar server. I won't forget those years.
This legit made me cry. I never got to play like the veterans did in Vanilla because I started in Cataclysm, but, I had A LOT of friends in Cata I'd always group up with and figure stuff out with. I desperately miss the days of actual companionship and friends amongst the community... Now it's just so lifeless and boring and even the Roleplay servers seem dead despite being one of the more populated types of servers.
Honestly? Move on to another game. Warframe is great for group play i.e.
I’m right there with you. Didn’t think Carbot would bring tears to my eyes.
@@paranidherc Warframe is good and all but it's not an MMORPG but a n MMO shooter.
@@Yinzermakesvids If you need an MMORPG with a great community I really recommend one of Standing stone games MMO's. excellent for group play really recommend them :D
The side effect of auto matchmaking.
At this point it's up to the game makers, they can automate participation and make more money or they can leave it up to the players and lose money.
Millennials just aren't social people, they're extremely antisocial and hateful, it's why they have to have a computer system to assign them with other people, they would never get on a team otherwise.
That almost brought me to tears. Seriously, that was portrayed perfectly and as a product of that, very saddening. God damn it, what a crushing reality for the current state of WoW.
This also almost brought me to tears. It’s very much how I feel. It pulled on some strings I had buried.
Almost? Yeah... 😅
I don't even play WOW (Tried once but it never sticked with me) but I know what it is to have a community break apart, either by horrible dev decisions to the game, internal conflict or corporate greed.
It's gut wrenching and something that keeps you awake at night. It's like you lose a part of yourself.
You want to quit but you have such an attachment to the game that you go with it just to hold on to the memories you made along the way, hoping that there's something ahead.
@@Destroyer2150 /hug
This is a 2 minutes and 48 seconds video that represents millions of players. CarbonAnimations, you just nailed it every piece of frame.
the feels.... I miss my friends.. I wonder where they all are right now.
Me either.
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what a job, a pure artistic talent. Without a word, represent how elders players feel. Just magnificient, bravo.
Elder players are losers now who wish they were kids again and are now like the old people of their times who whined about "BACK IN MY DAY!" Realize that shit and move on dude.
@@WickedWisdom55 First, I am sorry for you if I loved this video and you don't.
Second, I am a loser and I assume it, we moved on don't worry for us young arrogant little boy :)).
And third, we will still come back each extension to have fun and play with the new generation even if some complexed people spit on others like you to pretend you are better than another =)), kid things.
Remember when everyone used to spam ''WoW KILLER'' when a new mmo was being released?
WoW killed itself, the irony ...
Thought it was Activision
@@GamingTranceSeer Sparkle Pony was added in WoTLK tho
@@GamingTranceSeer stop sheltering your feelings, blizzard did it.
So falls every empires
To be fair, the only one able to kill WoW was always going to be WoW itself. Once you establish an emotional bond with a game due to time spent and friends made, it does not suffice being a kickass game to kill WoW. Imho that is exactly what we see/saw with FF14. Although FF14 (ARR) has always been good, it is only because blizzard has estranged so many of its player base that it was able to dethrone them as number one MMO. Good for Square Enix though, they deserve it imho. Just as Blizzard once deserved it ... and now not anymore. (Just my 2 cents :) )
i remember playing a troll warrior back in 2004-2005 questing in eastern plaguelands, i was minding my own business killing mobs when this other warrior came out of nowhere and were battling for straight 2-3mins and this undead priest joined the fray and whispered me "keep fighting, i got your back" we were victorius, we started to talk to each other and we become friends trough tbc and wotlk, he quit in ToGC patch. We had so many adventures together! if you are reading this bloodlife - Emerald Dream know that your friend shrekfriend still remember you!
I feel like after watching this, that this characterizes "it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all" better than anything else. It's so sad what this game has become, but I'm so glad I was there from the beginning
I actually saw this video for the first time today and I agree with you. I never played WoW back in its best days, but I damn well wish I had, given the differences. I wish I at least had the memory of it. Because I've had other similar experiences, especially with MapleStory - except I was the one of the first who became the "last online 12 years ago" guy. I even tried to come back and weather all the shenanigans, remembered my username, password, PIN, only get met with "You've been banned for hacking." I probably would have found nobody online any way.
My friend from my hometown and I had a small guild that we formed during Mists of Pandaria when a whole bunch of the old group decided to start playing again - not sure why we started again, but it remains my favourite expansion. Almost everyone stopped except my friend and I, who used it as a way to catch up since we couldn't travel and visit each other.
We kept playing, mostly just chatting while exploring old content and unlocking random achievements - I maxed out every class and unlocked Loremaster while playing with him. Even though he got married and had kids to look after, we'd still find time to play every so often. Then, finally, BFA came out. I bought it, leveled my toon to max, realised I wasn't enjoying the game as much, but figured that it was mostly that my friend wasn't playing with me. He'd made it to level 114, which made sense, as his time was more limited than my own. I leveled a second character to match him so we could play together when he had the time. He never logged back on.
I messaged him after I hadn't seen him online for a bit, and he said that he just wasn't finding it enjoyable any more, and with his limited available free time he had decided to spend his time doing things he enjoyed. We told each other we'd meet up again at some point soon IRL - we didn't - and that was it.
The game felt emptier without him in it, and the last thing that was keeping me from realising that I wasn't enjoying the game any more was gone. I disliked the microtransactions, the lack of community, the clunky PVP, and the mechanics designed around getting you to play every three days felt like a chore, and made me anxious... Before the anxiety curdled into resentment at Blizzard for introducing increasingly obvious gambling/FOMO mechanics in place of trusting in the quality of their game.
I stopped playing before the various scandals hit, but the scandals solidfied my decsion. I eventually uninstalled Battle.net (or whatever its called nowadays), and it's only videos like this that reminds me that when I was ten years old I'd pretend to be sick so I could play more Warcraft 2.
Thanks for the nostalgia.
It sounds like you need to find a way to meet up with your old friend again
i hope you meet him IRL anytime soon. Its never too late
Yo sorry to read about loosing a friend. I think that's the major problem with these games(mmo). They need you to stay online for hours and hours and that's not possible any more. Try to find a game to play with your friend like any moba: lol, smite, mobile mobas, etc. They don't need that much time and also every game lasts for
may i say .. Stormforge is up and running haha .. if u wanna go nostalgic
I was 20 something yo when i started WoW when it came up. And to this day, Vanilla and BC, my time in that universe at that moment are some, no, they are the best gaming memory i have. And that, this company cannot take away.
Someone needs to hijack the next blizzcon and play this on the big screen.
Bro you are legend!!
Underrated comment
Thought the same thing yesturday! 4chan make it happen cmon guys I know you can find a way.
You son of the btch, I'm in
Lets gooooooo!
Every time I watch this video I cry. Such a good representation of a journey so many of us will never experience again.
... and if I knew then what I now know, I'd never do it. Because when I hit the 'uninstall',.. I get anxious just thinking about it.
@@museluvrafter wrath, i never played any other expansions, the good memories started on wrath and it should end in wrath.
@@AnnonHa I agree so much! I'm trying again but it just dont hit the same :/
i wish i couldve experienced it in the first place. i was too broke as a kid to afford wow, and only got to play it in BFA. ive tried playing the OG warcraft games and classic to try to relive the lore and genuine experience, but it really just isnt the same
This video made me cry too.
To the guy I met 15 years ago in Stranglethorn Vale, we leveled up together from 40 to 70 during Burning Crusade.
I MISS YOU
Still crying while watching this 8 months later. That's all. Thank you Carbot.
2 years later, not playing anymore and still cryin' ...
Same :(
J'avoue c'est terrible, on vivra plus jamais ça dans un mmo ... Mais au moins nous avons eu la chance de l'avoir connu quelque part
The way the guy logs in makes friends with different players and then they drop out one by one…omg…right in the freakin’ feels.
Can we go back in time :'(
@@cesars7281 yes pls....
This brings back all the amazing memories and sad times ive had playing WoW. Best example i can think of was during TBC. My guild was progressing through SSC and TK pretty steadily. This was before they opened BT and MH to everyone. After a night of wiping on Kael. There was a lot of discourse, but it settled down for the most part. Went to sleep thinking everything was fine, only to login the next day and see about 20 people had left the guild and server xfer. I felt extremely hurt considering a couple of the people that left i thought we were really close. It double hurt seeing that, not only did no one say anything to me, but i was not included in their mass exodus. The GM and one officer left, tried to recruit, but there was no recovering. They called it quits and we disbanded. For about two weeks i kinda jist drifted. I started play less and less, and just felt like quitting. What was the point anymore. Honestly felt super lonely at the time. Especially after the Vent server got taken down. One night i decide to join a kara pug for the fun of it. We go in kill first boss no problems. Second boss we start wiping again and again. The shit geared MT that made the group, gets pissed and leaves. I tell them i'll raid lead and tank(warrior) the rest. We clear everything no problems. After we all leave. I get a message from an officer from the best guild on the server. They were the only ones farming BT/MH weekly. She says that three of the people in the raid were alts of players in that guild. She told me to apply to the guild and they would vouche for me. So i applied. A couple hours later another officer messages me and says thanks for helping his guildmates finish kara. They offer me a spot as a tank, and the rest his history. I played with that same guild from then until MoP when i finally quit the game. I became very close friends with many of my guildmates, and even lived together with a few. Who knew that the worst moment i ever felt playing WoW, would lead to some of the best memories i had in my life.
This was genuinely such a heartwarming story. Thank you for sharing
That was an awesome story thanks for sharing!
This. So much this. This is what WoW is about. Blizzard, you are like a loved one who has become a drug addict and keeps getting arrested and OD'ing. We stick by you because there is a shadow of the old you and we hope that you will come back to us, but deep down we know it's a lost cause.
When one door closes, another one opens. Thanks for sharing, great story.
great story mate, and a really good life lesson to be learned there also, thanks for sharing
When someone who knows the game critizes in such a deep way, everybody cries. Congrats on this precise video.
I found this video today and it just really hit me in the feels. I still remember all of the fun I had in Vanilla, BC and WoTLK - all of the lifelong friends I made (and lost). My best friend - met in-game in Vanilla to originally raid Molten Core together. I went to a board game night over the weekend with two people, both of whom I met in WoW. WoW had a huge impact on my life (both good and bad). Just remember all of the hours on Vent just talking to people as we played. And then Cataclysm came and that was honestly the beginning of the end - stopped raiding hardcore (WoTLK I was raiding ~5 nights a week and just burned out). MoP happened and I still played regularly but it was more like 30 minutes - hour a night. WoD came out and the new games and I just was like "this isn't the game I signed up for" and stopped playing. My life revolved around WoW for probably 6 years or so. I still miss those times but now my life has changed and I have new interests and people in it because of this game.
It sounds like you need a girlfriend dude, a real one.
@@rhysioeren3203 i need one to but there arent any on the ah. its hard out here man
WoD with those damn Garrisons that absolutely gutted the “community” from the cities was a massive misstep even Blizzard turned hard from but I will say as much of a letdown as Shadowlands was, Dragonflight has ended up being utterly fantastic and the nostalgia fun I’ve had since Mists! It even has elements of old Vanilla to it!
@@rhysioeren3203 Sounds like you need to realize people have memorable experiences and like to recall them. Just because your some looser doesn't mean you have to spread your depression elsewhere.
@Av1dd I think your mom is looking for you kiddo.
We met in Thousand Needles in 2005, he died in 2013. I miss you so much. RIP Chameleon.
Carbot: "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed."
Only Carbot could pull it off like this.
Yeah but disappointed with what? What's wrong with TBC Classic?
@@DiamondTear TBC Classic introduced boosts and pay for bonuses like mounts. Its history repeating itself all over again, one of the things that caused the immense decline in the game, and at the end, he's getting out before the heartbreak happens all over again.
@@DiamondTear Ill tell you whats bad. Thanks to boosts no one is doing anything in azeroth and everyone is in outland. Thats whats bad. (No leveling = No making ties with people to play with.)
@@SirBuljo Seconded. I have seen games right before they die. Their leveling zones are barren, having no purpose anymore. Everyone is in whatever serves as a hub. World PvP doesn't exist - even griefers don't leave the hubs, because there's no targets left.
Boosts put a price tag on leveling. It's an admission that they see their own leveling system as a chore, something that deserves to be skipped. Growing a character is supposed to be part of the fun, and the entire reason these gigantic zones exists in the first place. Without leveling, what was the purpose of designing all this content?
The part where friends start to disappear and move on really hit home. I miss the people that I got to know back then. The good thing is that there are new communities to try and find. Until then. Well done man. Well done.
Go on RP server like Zandalar tribe EU . You find your buddies :)
lost a best friend this year, it felt terrible riding through the outlands without him beside me. rip lilwhiteboy
@@Ankhergaming ZT for the win! Lots of horrific 5 lvl70 party Alli ganking low leveling hordies, but apart from that it's FTW. Alos check out Hydraxian Waterlords, the other RP realm. It's not PVP though, so it's not as active
I still talk to a dude I met in BC. He quit the game around Warlords to focus on his work, but he still pops in now and then to play a month or two at a time.
@@krazykanuckjr1425 That would be rough man. I hope you will be able to find those same experiences with new people when you are ready. I cherish the past experiences and admittedly long for them but I also look forward to doing it all over again in a new community someday.
this made me emotional a little, made great friends and memories with this game and now its stagnant and never the same. im the last of my friends that play. had my roommate pick up the game to play with me, cuz he never played before, and even he said "man you can tell how fun this game used to be", ah kicked me right in the gut :,). id hate to retire the game but... sad days. forever in my heart
RIP barrens/Goldshire trade chat :,)
Remember every year when there was going to be a new "WoW Killer" but in the end WoW was it's own demise.
I still remember when Totalbiscuit (Rip) played WoW back in its heyday. Upon being asked if there would ever be a "WoW killer" he responded with a resounding "No. The only thing that will kill WoW, is WoW itself."
The biggest of facts
Same for Halo, Star Wars, even Fortnite Warhammer 40,000. Every thing must come to an end
Many a great empire crumbled within.
Blizzard in Walter White voice “I am the WoW killer!”
this was next level, based on Carbot standards which is already very high.
Remember the journey. Not the last step.
And remember that you can still walk a different path.
The adventure never ends.
An adventure ends, but there is always a next great adventure.
I still remember and miss the beginning, where you needed to use the type of weapon, what you wanted to be your main weapon, just to increase your famialirity with said weapon, and could increase your profiency with it... I had an orc shaman, who i trained really hard with unarmed attack, just to make it still efficient with a WarCraft 3 appearance - complete with the wolf head headpiece from Zul Farrak - the "Embrace of the Lycan", and claw weapons. The ruination begun, when the developers considered the often hard work of developing the right amount of skills is not alluring to the players lazier, but more wealthier half, so they changed it to "iif you have enough gold and level , you can get anything immediately"...
Every new beginning comes from some other beginnings end. -Semisonic
Remember the ganking 😈
And ninjaloot
Hits the feels.. 2004-2008 my life was world of warcraft.. dived in and didn't look back. Great times.
What's a story you look back on fondly, so those of us who were born to late can glimpse this
04-10 for me. WoW was life. It was all I ever wanted to do.... and all I ever did do. And I don't regret a single minute of it all.
I don't even play WoW and this deeply hurt me. I can't imagine the loss y'all must be going through I'm so sorry
I haven't played the game in years except to try out BFA for a couple of months. It was so different, and I didn't feel compelled to keep going. I missed starting out as a dwarf hunter in TBC, exploring Dun Morogh and shooting troggs, keeping track of my ammo, getting new armor and weapons, going to Kharanos and drinking some Rhapsody Malt, exploring the snowy landscape and then moving onto other areas in the surrounding kingdom. Making tons of friends and doing stupid, aimless things because we didn't know what we were doing, but it was part of the fun. That level of 'awe' and wonder at what everything around you was. But the game has lost that spark, and it started in Cataclysm, the last time I played before my BFA bit. It'll never be the same.
The great majority of us are in the acceptance phase, just depends how long we spent in the denial phase.. resubbing every year or so to see if anything had changed.
@@HomicideJack187
Explorin Dun Morogh
Shootin Trogs
Keepin track of ammo
[The true spirit of fun]
As a huntard main that rolled blood elf. This hits me in the feels. I regret some of the choices I made, but I still kept my first pet. All the way until the day I left the game before Arthas opened up. And my black war wolf mount, and the pet that shared the same skin due to a bug in hellfire dungeons.... I miss that.
@@HomicideJack187 Cataclysm did a good job, it was about time the landscape changed. Because it was getting to repetetive.
I start in end of BC and played all wotlk and cata. This is the best online experience i ever had. After Cataclysm game turned somewhere wrong.
The ending so perfectly sums it up.
“You can keep playing a bit longer if you want.”
“ No... just- just end it now.”
Sad but true (T-T)
sad for the game but really true
As someone who grew up with War3, and WoW, this hits you straight in the feels. Perfect Video
Nothing crushes me more than seeing what they've done to my favorite warcraft 3 characters in modern wow.
Same here. It's heartbreaking.
@Naveen KV And wait until you hear the dialogue of Kel'thuzad in the new 9.1 raid. It's downright insulting.
@Naveen KV ruclips.net/video/qkHr_tQLosc/видео.html
They wanna pull a fast one on us and pretend like everything he's done up until Shadowlands has been a fraud and he never had any loyalties to the Lich King and shit.
Same, brother.
And the truth shall set you free...2005 24/7 player who quit mid Cata. Came back for classic. I was literally addicted and the way I found my way out was downloading the sound tracks from the games on my ipod and went for walks listening to them. Escape was easy afterwards.
This is visual depression hidden with nostalgia.
This video means that you have to grow up! Its explaining that is time to make a family, to make a baby and live IRL ... i started play wow late..in 2008 and i still have subscription but i play 1 h per month in last 2 years..all my friends have familys and childs and dont have time to play anymore. Somehow I'm in this guy skin....and I understand the hidden message :) if you stated in 2004 when you had 14 years now now you must have 31 yo :) i started at 18 and have 32 ... 30 is a age when you start your life :)
@@SirJohnatan bruh I'm 20 in trade school rn. I played this when I was like 9. Was just saying that the state the game is going into is sad cause it's semi-destroying it.
@@SirJohnatan Do YOU want to have a family and kids? Because you're just saying that's what you're supposed to do, not necessarily what you WANT to do
@@SirJohnatan This may come as a shock to you but not everyone is meant to be or has any interest in being a parent. The 'hidden message' is of a disillusioned player chased away by Blizzard giving in to rampant greed and the players that enabled it, not... whatever the hell you're talking about just because you have to build up cognitive biases justifying why you think, just because you and your social circle prioritized families over hobby pursuits, everyone else should, too.
It was a waste of time that I didn't regret .. I hope all who I played with having good life now
That's what I love about Carbot he's so honest even if Blizzard can see this and they may dislike it xd
blizz would still like this. they know why people play and can see the stats and reasons people leave or continue
@@gabbonoo The developers, maybe.
The CEO and shareholders ? They only want money no matter what. Too bad, the developers are not the ones in charge.
@@Alienoiable the current devs are just as bad. Theyre so self-obsessed and hellbent on creating esoteric endgame systems that no one cares about and are impossible to balance. Imagine how much content we would've gotten if they didn't have to put all their energy into balancing a bunch of garbage like covenants.
I mean the Blizzart Carbot loved and trusted isn't no more. The people that made blizzard reliable, fun and understanding all left one after the other as activision took over. Now it's just activision behind the blizzard name and it just hurts.
@@BaneRain hate to break it to you but a lot of the current devs are the same devs as back in classic/tbc/wotlk.
Of course some of the "faces" have left, but most of those behind are still the OG's.
New players: let me guess. Your home ?
Old players: it was. And it was beautiful
Going to tell a personal story. I played as a hunter in wow 2019 classic having been introduced to the game by family. Leveled yhrough all of it and made tons of friends. I have people on my friends tab rn that i haven't spoken to in 3 years. Yet i know if i talk, they will awnser. I joined a raiding guild in Wrath for the first time as wel tried (and failed) to progress through ICC. Cata comes around, all my friends are gone. Im sitting here waiitng... Doing GDKP runs... Waiting. The magic was gone. But i was still tethered to the game by the past. Thank you for Season of Discovery because it allowed me to re discover that magic as a more mature person. Once SoD is over i might step away for good however. A noce clean break. Thank you everyone who cared to read
The moment that first dwarf hunter faded away my heart just broke
Same.... you knew what was happening.
I was the human warlock that almost quit altogether in the second year of WoW. If it wasn't a providential reversal of getting right into the raids, I might have stopped playing WoW altogether. Even when Vanilla was Retail, I learned right away that people sucked and that the call of the soloist was the only one I could answer.
I had a friend that was a dwarf hunter who passed in early wrath we spent so many nights during crusade world pvping so the dwarf going first hit home
Idk buddy, sounds like poor choices. I've been playing on warmane (former molten wow) for more than a decade, and the feeling is still the starter one 🤷
Man... it hits harder than it should lol ;-;
Imho this is Carbot’s greatest masterpiece. It captures everything about the game we used to love so much in just 3 minutes that feels years long.
It was years long.
@@carlthegamer9215 Almost 17 years long. If WoW as a kid, s/he'd be getting ready for their junior year of HS.
It captures everything I love of this game in 2 minutes and everything I hate about the game in 1 minute
@@SirKahless yeah… i feel you. Sad but true.
Carbot captured the feel so well. Not just WOW, many nostalgia games changed from fun-with-friends to pay wall
WoW has no pay wall. The community is to blame for being anti social.
@@bendover4668 you reap what you sow
Omg I actually cried during this . Over an effing game. But up to BFA the stories and the people got me through one of the toughest times of my life. I’ll always be grateful for that. Sounds so over the top but I feel like I’m probably not the only one. ❤
WoW is basically becoming the video game equivalent of the Simpsons. The modern version still looks like the thing you love but everything feels wrong since the soul is gone. :’(
Truth, truth..
Oof
TBH it died for me once WotLK finished as it dealt with WC3+Expac story wise. The rest was content that was just added in to justify more expansions as it was proper cash cow at that point. Lets face it Blizzard are Blizzard in name only, the people who made that name are gone, the name is a skin for Activision now just like any other developer.
Time to move on.
And like the Simpsons it will probably end up owned by Disney.
@@Defiant306 It really peaked during WOTLK and ended narrative relevance after Legion.
What blizzard needs to understand is that this is literal player experience. No sugarcoating
Push this comment.
its kinda ironic how there is hundreds, maybe even thousands, of wow players in this comment section alone, complaining about how nobody wants to team up, make friends, in the game.
God damn I didn't expect to feel so sad by the end of this.
Brings a tear to my eyes. WoW changed my life. I love Carbot Animations! /hug all
I guess Carbot wont be addvertised on BLizcons anymore, after this. Hehe.
What Blizzcon?
Is there blizzard tho not just activision ?
I don't know man, the whole company went radio silence for years every time they fucked up. I have my doubts they'll risk a blizcon with the current perception of their products. They'd probably lose more customers with whatever out of season April fools joke they sink $13 into next.
I watch it over and over again, because it hits the home. This video is not only about WoW, but rather the history of online gaming in last two decades. The exploration, the experience, the social part... and much more. All faded away throughout the years that passed. We lost too much on the way
aaand this is why WoW fans are perceived as such insufferable whiners nowadays. As if gaming, for everyone, was born with WoW and died with WoW.
You're allowed to be nostalgic and to reflect on your own experience, but you don't have to make generalizations like this. Because that's very much the history of WoW and its community. And it's sad enough like this.
@@Ezullof I have never played WoW, but been playing games since decades. And I assure you, maybe not everything, but general points I mentioned are and have been exactly the same for the most online gaming.
Also, I did not claim the gaming is dead. There are still good games being made and I very much enjoy all of them. But the difference is just... there. Even MMOs like GW2 became more about checking marks on the map than exploring and digging stuff up. It was one of the key points of the game. Games changed, gamers also changed
@@EzullofOnline gaming has died. There is just not much fun anymore. I can make this generalisation because I pretty much tried everything with my friends. Gaming Companies are just Greedy Conglomerates nowadays.
@@Ezullofpeople who never played WoW are like the illiterates who say, “OMG STOP SAYING THE BOOK WAS BETTER THAN THE MOVIE, NO ONE CARES!!!” Or even the pompous asshole who says, “the book was so much better than the movie, you have no idea”. The thing about WoW is that some of us played and we never asked your f’n opinion
@@Ezullofthat’s not at all what he said. And his comment is completely true. Games are soulless grindathons now. The journey doesn’t matter now just the end result. You’re just too simple to see what the video or comments are about.
Holy crap. I've watched dozens of vids about this issue and you captured it in less than 3 mins without a single word. That's true art in my book.
Btw, i love the aesthetic of the screen bit, before it zooms into the chat.
To days long gone, but forever in our hearts.
Honestly didnt think Carbot had the balls to do this considering how close he is to blizzard ^^
Makes me think that Blizzard has soured their relationship in some way. Doubt he would just do this out of nowhere.
It doesn't feel like much of a critique of Blizzard, people chose to move on from the game by themselves
@@JLarky I think you missed a lot in the video...
@@JLarky watch the whole video b4 u comment :)
I believe adding the Portal Pass was the straw for a lot of people. Big mistake on Blizzard's part.
RIP old school MMO experience, it was fun while it lasted.
which part of it is fun? i get the anticipation of specs coming to fruition, the loot drops to come, and the trying of new dungeons. what else is there?
The consistency of highs has greatly diminishing returns.
I went from enjoying Diablo 2 and DnD groups, to trying WoW. WoW had some of the highs from both, but to a much lesser extent. Is there something that WoW has that D2 or Tabletop RP doesnt give(apart from pvp and global epic achievement)?
@@gabbonoo Ehmm... A huge world to explore???
@@CliveBurr4 Considering that homebrew is a thing DnDs world is virtually endless.
What WoW really has or had is a possibility to actually find players that have the same schedule as you. Hardly everyone has 6 friends to play DnD with on a regular basis.
That is jsut the deciding difference; games are finite and you always reach a point when you are merely going fo bigger numbers. Or if the game doesn't have that kind of feature you start over or just no longer play it.
@@gabbonoo One of my favourite things to do in WoW prior to being able to fly everywhere was exploration. Sneaking into Alliance territory as a Horde player, or finding a way to access parts of the map that were only included for flavour & never really intended to be visited or something that was just so remote nobody ever really went there. You can absolutely do those in D&D but it was extra rewarding in a video game where it was designed to keep you out of those places.
Overall I'd say what an MMO offers that a TTRPG doesn't is the "massively" part of the acronym. With a massive player count you never know what your usual trip to your usual stomping grounds might bring. One of my earliest servers was a PvP server where we were badly outnumbered and every day was a struggle. It was never so bad that I couldn't get things done. It just forced me to try harder and find different ways to accomplish things.
@@gabbonoo The part where you get visual on the actual adventure. And you meet new people to play with. You don't get the feeling of being part of a server community with thousands of other players in D2 and d&d.
Though I don't blame Blizzard for this. I blame the community itself. They are their own worst enemy. The loot has become 1st priority and community 2nd.
Funny how the expansions were nicely stacked in the beginning, and then..
Didn't even notice that until you pointed it out, ugh! 🥺🥺😭😭😭
It's "bored player" propaganda. The game is fine and has been fine.
@@kanegasi that's some hard fucking copium right there, lmfao.
@@kanegasi can I have what youre having? Where can I get that?
@@kanegasi are u sure we all are playing the same game?
This hit me really hard, man. That first minute into the video is some of the happiest moments of my life.
I really cried. It was the best experience with gaming i ever had. 14 years of my life and now everything is gone.
I guess i’ll enjoy remembering the old times.
Try ff14, game is différents but people are the same ;) i'm sad toi ;(
Same. So glad I got to experience that 2009 feeling of gaming.
FFXIV is calling you
Nothings "gone". The memories and experiences you had still exist. People move on, relationships change and sometimes end. Dragging it out and making it ugly trying to love something you no longer love is the real problem. Move on, be glad for what you had, and think about that instead of the failures of "what is".
@Kel Rowland nigga what
We used to create our own memories and adventures in this game.
Now we just pay for a single player experience.
exactly
U did mythic raid and m+ / Pvp solo? Kekw tell me how plx
@@felreaver3672 Pugging is soloing in a way
If you have a legit Guild you don't solo content alone... unless you want to.
@@felreaver3672 kekw multiboxing kekw
I'm not crying... There's just a bunch of rogues cutting onions in here.
God damn Rogues! They're cutting onions here too.
No, I am pretty sure we all agree, in this case we are all allowed to cry.
I dont wanna like ur comment, since ur comment is at 420, I don't wanna ruin it :P
I have never played WoW until the last few weeks. My girlfriend lives half way across the world from me atm and she suggested we play it, having been in it from the start. We are playing classic together. I have never experienced something like this tbh, it's amazing. And i am just very thankful that I can share it with her.
You should play the warcraft3 game. Helps understanding everything
I think a little over two decades now, I always considered getting a sub for this game, and I finally did, but It's sad to see this video because I'll never get to experience that time. Though i've been enjoying this game immensley
@@equasian2702 are you playing wrath or retail? Also you got anyone to play with? If not we could play together perhaps and work through some of the old content in classic :)
Good time for it as cata will be out soon
if ever Wow becomes hard due to toxicity, give ffxiv a go, its one of the few Mmo's that still feels like its in its "Golden Age" and the community unbelievably daft and friendly
Garrosh was right about one thing:
Times change.
I kinda feel like this is a cop out excuse people use. My D&D group still plays regularly after 30+ years and hundreds of campaigns. My circle of friends that enjoy fighting games still come over once a month to play Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat after 30 years. But somehow this argument is always thrown out about WoW that the game isn't enjoyable because we got older. Sorry but I don't buy it, and people denying the fact that the game HAS changed massively need to wake up.
@@shadowviruz The truth is, the players had already brought boosting to WoW Classic, it was just happening with gold buying on dodgy websites and aoe dungeon farming mages ingame. I hate everything about it, but you cannot deny that the retail playerbase made that a reality in Classic.
@@cattysplat Yeah, but it was highly discouraged and even punished by Blizzard because they weren't getting the money. The WoW token changed that.
Ouch, my feels.
This literally made me cry - because it’s so true.
I ended my sub a few months after SL… as I’ve ended my sub before. But this is the last time.
It’s the people and the nostalgia of better times that kept me coming back… but those people are gone - and the game has deteriorated.
I was hopeful for WoW2 on an updated engine - with maybe some new innovations since Blizz WAS a pioneer… but instead we got classic and now TBC. This tells me that Blizz KNOWS nostalgia is the only thing holding their player base.
Now… I look forward to Ashes of Creation and a new start.
I stopped playing SL in January, but I've still been enjoying TBC, But who knows how long that will last for.
I cancelled my sub fairly recently too and like you, this is actually the end of my time with wow for good. Played since vanilla only skipping cata but I'm well and truly done now. Thankful for the great memories at least but that's all it'll be now 👍🏻
theres no fresh start, wow was that good back in the day cuz the internet was so primitive, so you couldnt find anything, now AoC will be good as a mmo maybe, but it wont have that experience of joining a new world full of people, making friends, etc
Yep, I am not coming back at all for SL. I highly doubt I will for the next xpac and I'll finally be done.
Or New world/GW2
That was honestly the saddest video I've seen in years. I feel like that's exactly how it all happened for me, same timeline and all. But I feel very fortunate that I got to experience all of it 🥺
Sad is, i never played this game but all the same things happened to me in another game i played that i openly despise these days.
I played from 06-2017 then again from 2019 till 2022? So many great ana bad memories from this game. I miss my friends from my old servers. I hope they are doing well.
Auch, that hit home more. Played since beta vanilla, and having a really hard time coming up with good arguments for my friends to come back and hang out in WoW
Did your friends run play ff 14? Like most wow players I seen started to do now
Played it since vanilla beta too, but the game lost its flavor... Tried each add on, just for shadow lands I didn't even bother... Dunno...
I never undestood why anyone played it in the first place
My dad played in beta and I took over his acct when he passed away, didn’t hit max level myself until cata but by then all his friends from that era had stopped playing.
i feel ya for a verteran of beta vanilla... shadowlands felt more like an insult than anything else
As someone that started about a month or two after launch, this video is pretty much my WoW life and it gave me a realisation.
In Vanilla, you didn't meet so many people. You had a small group of friends around your level, you learned to work together as a team, you slowly turned into IRL friends.
Now you meet dozens of people every day for 5 minutes here or 30 mins there. You don't travel together and the ease of the challenges mean a lot can be soloed anyway. In short, modern WoW gives little incentive to invest in relationships with other players.
To put it in a nutshell - quick disposable content creates quick disposable player interactions. So it is little surprise that people will keep drifting away.
I miss the friends I had at the beginning. I miss the hard group quests we overcame together and I see *nothing* that leads me to believe those times will come back. And that's why this video hurts.
exactly what I feel like after these years of playing WOW. The worst thing is that I come back from time to time in an attempt to bring back that unique experience, and there is none of it there anymore. Pointless grind, pointless quests and pointless raids.
And some people in comments are talking about 'oh there is similar experience just in another game' are wrong. There is and will be no game like WoW, because you can't go back in time even if you really want to.
This video like really hurts by how accurate it is.
exactly this. I made a lot of friends who were like minded. We did almost everything together, and shared more irl stuff than actual irl friends.
nowadays its all about raider io score, cr, achievement,...ppl treat each other like some disposable animals. My friends already quit, all of them. And I have no intention making friends anymore, especially with the current hamster wheel system.
I disagree. What really changed over the expansions is that WoW made it easier for you to join strangers which then lead to players just playing with strangers more because it is easier, faster and more convenient. You can still do those things that you see here. You can still build (and destroy) new communities, meet new people and make friends. You can still find nice people to talk to and play with. But while the original WoW and its early expansions made it necessary to do so, the modern WoW shows you what happens if you remove those hurdles. So the question is: Do you want to invest the time we invested back then. Can you really stop yourself from using the easy way?
Quick check for you:
- Do you try to talk to people today when you meet them for dungeon groups?
- Do you add people you played with to your friend list to maybe play more dungeons later?
- Do you actively look for people to play with or do you expect to randomly bump into them?
- Do you try to build groups to do content together for longer than a dungeon or two?
Personally, I NEED a guild to play WoW. I need this social group I play with and talk to in Discord and I have never been without at least a small guild with people I want to play with. And I experience WoW most of the time very much in the beautiful way it is shown here - in Shadowlands that is.
I'm with you, we're ALL with you :(
Just a quick addition: I agree with Carbot a lot here btw.. I am not a friend of unlimited level boosts, shop mounts and so on. I just feel that we all get a little too nostalgic about the "good old years" (which is what we sometimes criticize about things our grandparents, bosses, ... tend to say) and it sometimes help to take a step back and have a look at ones perspective. For example: I met quite a few nice people (which I play with to this day) by having access to the LFG tool which I would have never met otherwise. I also happened to try to push for r.io score solo and the experience is just bad then. Same game, just a different angle of tackling a challenge.
Meanwhile in Activision Headquarters
"Sir a WoW video is trending on youtube"
"Great, what's it about?"
"Uhh.. Well there's mounts and stuff Sir"
"Very good Johnson, release the Rainbow Flying Auction House Cauldron Mount (Sparkly Effect Modifier) early"
AHAHAHHA omg i died!
Don't release it early, but have it be available for pre-order
... in TBC Classic
Too real lmao
i never even played WoW , but this really just made me tear up