Pick and choose your titles. You should never get in debt for a hobby , priotisation and discipline are key to collecting , collect for yourself, not others !
It’s not just collecting movies. It’s any collecting habit. I collect Neca action figures. Some of the old ones are ridiculous prices. My advice is to collect only what you can comfortably afford. Don’t get sucked into buying for the sake of shelf filling or because something new has been released. Enjoy your collection but don’t get in debt for it or let it cause you stress.
Good advice mate as I have a quite a bad collecting habit at the minute when I get obsessed with a certain movie I feel the need to collect anything & everything to do with that particular movie. I’m wasting all my spare money on stuff that I’ll be bored of in a few weeks time
I love that you tackle this side of collecting, cause it does have a dark side. I way overspent this summer on all the sales, so now I'm back to one film a month (till October, when VS has a sale again). As a collector, you really need will power. You need to control your FOMO or it will control you. We don't NEED any of this stuff, we WANT it. Keep doing these videos, it's important to talk about this.
@@jespernicolaj It really was / is an addiction. Making these videos helps me think through the habits a lot and realise how truly addicted I had become. Not only to the buying but the hoarding of titles too. I think there are many of us in the same situation, but also a lot that don’t quite realise what they’re doing yet.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Absolutely true. Most people are in denial. And it is extremely hard to control, like any addiction, this is not less of an addiction than say drugs or alcohol. We just justify it more, cause it is not physically harmful, but mentally, it is the same strain. I think you need to say, I have this amount of money or titles I can buy every month AND I can only buy from THESE companies. I have sort of settled for Criterion, VS and Arrow. Films are like comic books. There are SO many you want, but if you focus really hard (and it IS hard) you end up getting the titles you ACTUALLY want. For me, it's hard work every day, keeping myself in check.
@@laurasands8322 I think my existing disc is enough for me to be honest. I have a big interest in the behind the scenes stuff so temptation is there for the standard. At the moment though, I’m holding off. There’s no real rush or need as I have the main movie sat there already.
I have a German Blu Ray of The Hitcher, that will do me. There are many boutique movies I buy, but there are only a few ‘special editions’ I buy if there is a standard edition, I buy movies to have a certain title in my collection, I don’t buy them for the packaging. Recently brought Santa Sangre special edition from Severin UK, but it was worth the price as it comes with 4 discs and it is an amazing movie.
@@marymungleandmidge4080 I’m right there with you. Realising the packaging isn’t really what I want. It’s about the movie and the things that attract me more than the package are the on disc extras. Those behind the scenes look at the creation. Most standard edition have all of that stuff so there really is no need to pay the massive premium for that cardboard.
The problem is the more people turn to streaming,the fewer will buy a certain physical release so the companies will keep upping the prices to get as much cash return they can.
I think these are niche anyway. I’d love them to release them on streaming or digital too. Most of the films I love Hammer horror, anime and Universal horror you just can’t get digitally and forget streaming for older films unless it’s something like Jaws.
Great video Phill. Yea that Hitcher box is so pricey. I can buy a huge multi movie box set for that same price. I can’t keep up with prices like that. I just need to tell myself that getting the standard release is just fine.
Thanks Huck. When the standard release for this movie is sat there, for me. It seems silly to drop that $65 - $70 on the box set when really… it’s the on disc extras I’d be most interested in so the standard is generally enough. Plus, not buying things straight away and worrying if you have the limited box… makes the sales more interesting to scout through when you don’t already have everything.
Went into HMV to buy "Challengers"...£12.99! Couldn't believe it. There usually £15 for the new standard blu-ray release. It was a pleasant suprise! Not sure why 13 quid feels alot better than 15 😅. Started to get alot more picky these days wth what im getting on premium, certanly no blind buys! Awesome video mate 👌
@@totalmovierecall that’s a pretty good price. Especially with it being HMV exclusive. I’ve moved to being more picky recently. When the hype dies down, generally so does that urge to buy. Don’t feel like I’ve missed out on any. Happier to be picking things up when I’m ready rather than rushing to have it on the shelf.
I know I should limit myself and set a budget, especially as I've picked up another expensive habit or two (no not cocaine or anything dodgy, just more 'collecting/being adicted to' something perfectly fine... unless it puts you into debt). I find myself though "spending whilst I can" because of medical and other factors that could put me out of my well paid job 'tomorrow' and doing so not only feels like I'm preparing for a future when I'll *have* to budget, but also helps me to relieve the stresses of thinking about the parts of my life that could lead to that job loss. On the upside I no longer drink so I do have more money to spend (and can realise when I'm drunkenly ordering way beyond my means)... but still I know my spending, wherever it goes, is at least partially a replacement addiction for the alcohol; well at least it's not physically killing me... and I have _improved_ from a time just before and just after the alcohol when I was so depressed I 'needed' a title to come through the letterbox every day. None were titles I didn't want but I could have waited for many to get cheaper if I wasn't working (very hard) to time my purchases so I wouldn't get a day when nothing arrived! P.S. Yes, with all that said, I have that CE of *The Hitcher* on order... and my orders *do* tend to concentrate on LE that may sell out (as a steelbook collector that's a 'bad thing' _BUT_ for other titles I;m getting better at waiting a few months at least for a good price drop to a target that I set and try not to waiver from.
@@blujustin4175 I’ve been a lot better with things now I’ve adjusted to waiting for those titles that I don’t want limited or just not going to have time to watch. It’s cleared my head a lot by doing so too. It’s been a source of other issues too, with partners questioning how many parcels are coming through the door. I admit, When I look back, the sheer volume of things was ridiculous… and there was no way I was getting around to watching or making use of ‘everything’. It’s definitely worth budgeting and just considering if the thing is going to get its use in the short term. So many titles I was buying at full price had often dropped in price before I’d had chance to watch them, or just been dumped on a streaming platform. Not all were movies I wanted to keep in my collection either.
Thanks. I needed this talking to. I did oreorder The Hitcher. Can I afford it? Yes. Do I need it? No. I dont even have room for it. I have over 6K blu-ray sitting in boxes. I often watching sonething on streaming because I dont want to soend an hour trying to find the disc. 😐
@@bahet1061 that’s a solid collection at 6k. I use streaming quite regularly too. I still like having a collection but it’s more limited now with what I buy for that collection. A lot of the titles are easily available over time at a cheaper cost if I wanted to pick up in the future. Even if I have to pay an inflated scalper price. Limiting that purchase up front saves me more money overall when I just don’t buy the stuff I really don’t need. I’ve found that clearing down my collection has also cleared my mind a little. Actually more at ease with a smaller and more curated collection now. Strange, I always thought I wanted a large library of movies. 🤷🏼♂️
I do love the hitcher. I do have the import Blu-ray. I might wait for a united stateside release or get the standard. I only like these limited for my all-time favorites. Conan was one. But not everything needs a limited release. But maybe there's someone out there that wants it. I can't even find hitcher on the website just a picture
@@MediaFeverPitch yeah, there will certainly be folks out there that love this movie. This box set is great for them. Not a box set for me personally though. Might upgrade the standard for the extras at some point but no massive rush on it. I try to keep the box set buying to just my absolute faves now.
@@ethandumar2398 would love to have in store discoveries like that again. Not sure there’s many box sets I miss need on. Social media feeds me too much info.
I have the Dawn of the dead box set but I love the movie. I ordered The hitcher minutes after it was up for pre order for the same reason. I will probably spend £100 on frames for the 'lobby cards' of both sets and the Dog soldiers one once my new home office is finished. To be honest my 4k problem is getting as bad as my Lego movie tie in problem.
@@mikeedwards4609 you’re the right sort person to be getting these sets. You love the movies AND you’re making use of the lobby cards too. 🙌🏼 My Lego problem isn’t too bad. Just the odd one is fine for me with Lego. Do enjoy the Lego sets but just don’t go all in for them.
Hi Phill, I do kinda budget myself now as it can get out of hand if you don’t and more than likely the price of the desired film will go down in a short time. £50 for the Hitcher…😮 they are having a laugh. Take care mate👍😃👍
One of the things I was always conscious of when starting RUclips was that need to be constantly buying new stuff to keep content flowing. I didn’t want to fall into that trap. It would be nice to grab a copy of the Hitcher to show on the channel but at £50 for the one movie that really, I’m not the biggest fan of. It’s just not worth it. You’ve found a nice way to show the new releases with your videos without going over the top. Do you ever find when you’re doing your videos that there’s a temptation to perhaps over spend from time to time ?
@@PhillwithadoubleLI’ve never bought a film just to show and fill the space in a video. I actually don’t show all my pick up’s 😬 I don’t want my viewers to get bored by me endlessly chatting, so I will hold back on showing everything. Buying just to show would definitely be a slippery slope. 👍
In collecting I try to be reasonable, set limits, I’m a big fan of 80s horror, so For that I try to prioritize getting limited editions, that goes for my favourite movies as well. for other genres like action movies, standards editions are good enough(I treat them like baseball cards, flick ‘em, toss ‘em, stack ‘em, not worrying or being picky), And just Get them during sales. It’s easier on the mind and wallet.
@@gleamingtv3946 in the last it used to be all new releases. When a sale popped up there were few titles that I still wanted or needed. I’d already spent that money for them to be on the shelf… a lot unwatched. Now, hoping that without the silly buying habit still going on that I can get out to the sales and actually find the things o really want at a good price… in waiting I also find a lot of those titles no longer appeal or I just don’t feel as though I need any more. Standards should be good enough generally unless it’s a movie you love.
Honestly I generally wait for stuff to go on sale. Unless it's a film that I absolutely adored as a kid/young adult I can wait. Having said that I dropped £90 on importing those Conan Arrow releases and dropped about £130 on those Bruce Lee Arrow movies as well. They were movies I loved as a kid though
If you love the movie then I 100% see the reasons to go for that nice set. When I title is pretty average then I think it needs some serious consideration to why you’re dropping that amount on a set. I don’t massively go in for books or art… so a standard edition will usually do me just fine. Even then, some I now wait for the standards on sale. Picked up a bunch of arrow and second sight standard editions through various sales and I’ve been happy with those editions.
4K standard edition for me. Same with You're Next. I'll be waiting for a price drop though... the limited editions just take up too much space and I never look at the postcards / booklet. I do appreciate how Second Sight give the standard option immediately unlike other labels
Must admit. Still tempted by the limited for You’re Next but… the only thing that I really want are those on disc extras. Really zero point in me going for the limited. As you say, it’s nice that second sight at least are releasing the standard editions at the same time.
I’ve given myself 2 special boutique titles in 2024 and I’ve brought just one - The Hitcher. To be honest I’m not going to get something that much again just for a book and the like. I’m much preferring regular issues. I’ve gotten over the “limited edition” stuff. There is IMHO a cookie cutter feel to them at times. If another film comes out like that I’d just get a standard edition unless it’s say Masters of the Universe. 😂😂 The irony is I did get that Day of the Dead set I treated myself to after my father died, as it’s a title I loved. It was the only one to get it in 4K. Yes to all those questions it’s caused me debt issues.>, relationship issues and I’ve spent far, far too much time obsessing over physical media.
@@nicholasdickens2801 sorry to hear about the issues the physical media addiction has caused you. It sounds like you have it reigned in pretty well now though… At the minute. I’m going for the more standard editions now. I get the content I want at a fraction of the price. The bigger editions can be picked up if it’s a movie I truly love.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I never have the confidence to say I’ve licked it. We live in a consumer driven society that’s very well able to sell you stuff all the time. I do my best to resist those impulses. Thank you for your kind words.
i did slow down with buying second change movies right now i only buy new it gives me time to think what i realy want and instead of 30 old ones i pick up 3-5 movies i realy love in 2 months or so
@@FilmverzamelaarVincent I’ve slowed way down now too. Think I’ve picked up around 6 or 7 titles the last few months. It used to be that or more every month. The pick ups now are always much more considered. Tired of things sitting around for (sometimes) years unused.
Hairies ? Must admit. Saw Tank girl from Eureka get announced earlier, impulse to order was there. I don’t know why. Can’t ever remember being a massive fan of the movie. But ties into what you say ‘Nostalgia Junkies’
I did order The Hitcher set but I put aside some funds when I heard it was coming soon. but I have skipped a few Second Sight sets and tend to only focus on the 4K ones more now. I like you am getting more selective as the market is flooded with these sets now.
@@letstalkcriterion it’s the weird thing… as there are more and more of these similar looking rigid box set. The less special they’re feeling. It almost like they’re becoming the new normal / expectation. One of the reasons I’m being more selective. Want my favourite movies to stand out… not get lost in the crowd.
I've never went into debt or something, but i try to budget now and it kinda works for me. I still preorder stuff but i wait for sales and promotions etc. and i haven't missed anything that i really want. I browse and browse, add some stuff then see the total and think about it again and i can close the window more often than not...
@@creatora123 I’ve been more patient lately. And it’s paying off. Not filling my shelves with stuff I never really wanted and also, not paying the premium to have straight away. That waiting can take away the impulse to own when the hype has died down. Especially with the limited boutique stuff
For me the biggest hassle is storage. I think of the room a giant boxset will grab. I usually just stick to regular release. I do have to create a monthly budget next though lol
The storage issue is real. I started clearing out some of my collection. The movies that I didn’t really care for or don’t feel an impulse to go back to. I feel better for having the clearer space over owning a large collection. It’s weird. I thought I needed a big collection but feel better without the big collection 🤷🏼♂️ Clear space, clear mind !
Hi Phill, great video. Prices are going too high for collectors. I've not got a 4k player and these days 88 film and Second Sight only release these collectors editions on 4k disc with the blu ray. I don't want a 4k, so I have to buy the standard edition blu ray. All the best. 👍
@@garypage1963 if I’m honest Gary. Even though I class myself as a collector. There’s a bunch I bought that I never really needed that special edition of. The content I love are the extras on disc which come on the standard edition anyway. There’s a few titles I like a special edition of… if I truly love the movie but if not, for space saving AND cost, standard edition is more than enough for me. But yeah, generally prices are being pushed way high. Special edition of Tank Girl just announced by Eureka is coming in at £27 which is getting to be a kinda standard price for these hard box editions.
I can relate to this. I find myself overspending on movies then when I really enjoy a movie I want to buy figures & stuff to do with that movie but then when the parcels arrive & I open them I’m not that fussed about the item then. I think I’m just addicted to ordering / purchasing stuff & the buzz of opening packages. I need to do something about it as I’m getting myself into debt because of my habits
@@nks80 completely understand that pull to grab everything. I considered if it was more to do with the thrill of ordering and receiving more than the item itself. It’s difficult to pin down reasonings or to try and even break that habit. I literally cut myself off from all the stuff, put it in boxes / didn’t use it and took them out of sight, had a few weeks without the stuff and then considered if I missed it. It created the beginnings of all the consideration of if we actually need all the things. It certainly made me think twice when shopping, often I’d still click add to cart or wishlist but not actually make an immediate purchase. Then, have a few days to really think about the need or use of that thing. One thing I am sure about, as nice as it is to collect. Don’t let it become that noise around your neck in terms of debt or hoarding. I’ve found limiting things down has helped me enjoy the stuff more 🤷🏼♂️
@@PhillwithadoubleLthanks for the advice mate. I definitely need to give my head a wobble with it all. I’m just sick of the way I get obsessed with something then I feel the need to order everything about whatever I’m obsessed with at that time then after a few weeks I find myself trying to sell the stuff on eBay as I get bored so quickly! 😞
@@nks80 you’re not alone my friend. I know others that still do the same. I think my age has possibly helped me start to think a little more about these things.
Great video Phill! 💯 I find it sad when one's collection can be a source of contention on a family/relationship level for whatever reason. Sometimes it feels like a double standard, I spend my money on what I like (that blu-ray on the shelf over there). And others spend their money on what they like, for instance (going out/ a big trip). It's interesting how you can't point at an expensive trip out and say why did you buy that. Yet you can point at a blu-ray on a shelf and call it a waste of money or a problem. Kind regards, Zak! P.S. I worked on Pan as well ✨
@@zakwyldeproductions what’s in my head at the moment with collecting. All the social groups were in to share our passion. It’s almost like they feed that spending, when people feel the need to have to buy something to be involved and included. I’m all for collecting and having a collection but it’s where the line is drawn for what we’re buying and the reasons for doing so. I’ve been guilty in the past of buying for the sake of it. I’ve realised that more now and as my collection started to take over… I’ve started to think about things in a slightly different way. At my age, I’ve seen others that have struggled with relationships because of the habit and the volume of stuff. I like to just challenge the thoughts processes on some buying habits. It’s healthy to have a hobby and be able to enjoy it. Until it isn’t. What did you do on Pan, Zak ? It was a fun job for my part !
@@PhillwithadoubleL 👍! I really enjoy your videos! On Pan I was one of the miners. It was actually the first film I worked on. I remember the day they made us all (well the miners anyway) learn that song 2hrs before shooting all day 😆.
I haven't set myself a budget but I always make sure my bills are paid before I start collecting each paycheck. I don’t use credit cards at all. I mostly search for cheaper stuff. There are very few films/shows I crave special editions for. The only thing I've pre-ordered so far was the limited/numbered US Doctor Who 13-series box set last year. The only thing I'm pre-ordering this year is the Toho Godzilla Minus One set. Gotta be selective when the nice sets are so pricey.
@@texturedpavement yeah, I’ve learned that one. Take care of the home first. I’ve not really used a credit card for years now. Happier for any debt beyond the mortgage to be cleared. I haven’t budgeted yet but my pick ups in general are way down from where they used to be. I’m with you in respect of special editions have to be for movies or shows that are special to me.
It is a problem with special or limited editions! If you want the movie and can afford it without going into debt ore-order it as it will be cheaper than buying from scalpers I myself am happy with the standard edition as they fill these limited editions full of tat
@@JohnDoe-bz4yl that’s the thing when you boil it down. How much extra you’re paying for the box / postcards and a slim book. I’ve been sticking to standard a lot recently with the only limited releases being the movies that I truly think are great. I often wonder if these titles only really sell out so quick because of the scalpers.
I've always skipped out of the deluxe editions, it's too much money for a book, postcards, a poster, and whatever else they put in that box. I only need the movie, since I never end up looking at the book anyway, and they take up a lot of space on the shelf.
While ive been going through my collection ive realised that with these editions. The only things i really care about are the movie and on disc extras. As you say, most other stuff sits unused. I try now to only go deluxe if it’s a movie I truly care about. The Hitcher unfortunately isn’t one of them.
I picked up an ex rental vhs of The Hitcher over a year ago and have still not played the tape😂 Have seen it before and its a great film I enjoy when I have watched it. Can't beat Rutger Hauer even in a bad film he brings something to the party. Saying that if you love the film then 50 pound maybe easily justified but I wouldn't pay it. Think some will get it watch it once if not at all and will sit gathering dust. I have overspent many times on things I don't need and it does not bring happiness but stress trying to balance the books.
@@sparkstron73 that’s my thing at the moment. £50 for one movie. The standard edition is £18 for the blu ray. Do I want to pay an extra £32 for the book and box. Then consider what happens with that book and box. It gets looked at once, possibly not even read the book. Then sits on the shelf. I’ve paid an extra £32 for shelf decoration. Not sure if I’d rather put that difference to collecting something else for display 🤷🏼♂️
@@PhillwithadoubleL Owning the best quality edition of the film I get, if it is a vast improvement. 18 pound is still alot to me for a film I rarely watch and have on dvd and vhs already. I don't have any disposable income but still manage to spend beyond my means. I guess a lot is boredom and feeling the need to acquire even if there is no need.😄
Im in a similar place with Twister 4k. I like the movie, but I think £45 is too much. I am going to wait for the standard release of Twister. I try to budget, £35 for a "special edition" is my max. The only exception would be if they started to do Hammer movies 4k special edition, then that may go up, depending on what's with it. I think, I am happy with the special editions I have, ones I missed, I have the standard versions brought in 2 for £30 4k offer on amazon or hmv.
@@MrMRoboto1 personally, I think £45 is way too much for Twister. 🌪️ to be honest, it’s not one I’d be chasing down a special edition of. I’d even potentially wait to see if they did a normal double pack when the new one hits Physical. I’d go high on a special edition on a movie but it would have to be for a movie I absolutely adore. I’ve been picking up special editions in the past purely for the limited packaging but realising now, I don’t need the limited packaging for movies I don’t care about ‘that’ much. I’ve been selling off some of my limited editions now. Curating down that collection. Future purchases are more considered than they used to be. With space at a premium. I don’t need a special edition of it all.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I was trying to think of a movie that I love that I would go higher for, but couldn't think of any. Wait until next week when one gets released and ill go "ah that one." Im not fully sold on Twisters, I, going to stream it when its out to give it a chance then possibly pick up the disc version. I have brought my first digital movie now though. Did you pick up anything in the amazon sale?
@@MrMRoboto1 I pretty much avoided the Amazon sale. I have a wish list set up now so if they have a sale / prime day I tend to head to my wishlist to see if anything I actually want is on offer. Helps me avoid those more random unnecessary purchases. I might pop to HMV next week though. They have a couple of good offers for x and Pearl which I’m tempted by.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Thats what Ive done on Amazon. I did notice that a number of the 4ks went from £19.99 to £14.99, but most were in the 2 for £30 offer before the sale. I did pick up back to the future on 4k was £26 I think. I did use a voucher for listening to a podcast through amazon at the start of the month and thought Id save it until the prime day. I did see them, I am going into Derby on Sunday, if I see them, I may pick them up.
At the end of the day it's the disc we want. The box sets look good but is it worth it in the end as the price could go up or down in years to come or just end up being damaged when trying to get the disc out. I have started ripping my discs as it got out of control with storage space.
@@djelski927 agreed. When did the prestige of the box and packaging overtake the movie and disc content ?! I’ve seen a few start ripping their discs. Has been a consideration
@@PhillwithadoubleL Trying, got about 300 on two different sites, been deleting a few here and there 😁 Also it won’t let me talk about the sites here or I get deleted for spam…
I’ll be testing out Amazons lowest price promise on the Hitcher - pre-ordered at £69.99 and now dropped to £49.99. What I do usually is pre-order with Amazon so I have the order in should it sell out, and then re-evaluate whether I want to go through with it nearer the time of release.
@@RetroReels amazon are usually spot on with the price promise. I’d be scared of ordering and reevaluating, like the idea of it but I know I’m daft enough to forget about orders more often than not.
@@PhillwithadoubleL In my mind, if you were to forget about it you didn’t really want it in the first place. Amazon are by far the best with customer service and no quibble returns etc. I know a lot of this falls under fomo, but you can’t hang around with the ltd editions etc as you never know if/when they will sell out. Lots of people made that mistake last year with the Jaws Film Vault set, although that was somewhat a fumbled release as had sold out before it was even officially announced and reviewers such as myself didn’t even get one as they did with the first wave.
@@RetroReels have you managed to get hold of a Film Vault Jaws now ? That where a lot of my FOMO came from. Never want to miss out. I’ve even ordered on impulse when a boutique label posts about stock numbers being low. Just that fear of not having access really niggles at me.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Yes, luckily I managed to grab one just above retail on eBay to complete the set and get my review out. I know the niggles you speak of, If it’s affordable and it’s something I’m likely to want at some point in the future I always make sure I get an order in. People complaining on social media that they missed out usually have plenty of time to get an order in, if you can’t afford to buy it at twice the price, you shouldn’t be buying it at all - priorities are all wrong. And you shouldn’t feel the need to keep up with the Jones’s. The psychology of it all is very interesting when you step away and look at it.
Any reason why you would order from Amazon rather than SS themselves? Pretty much guaranteed to get a damaged box through Amazon. For the cost of delivery (couple of extra quid), I think it's worth having SS wrap the thing up properly...
Great video, Phill👍. So I’ve googling to find out how much is 50 pounds is in US dollars and it came up to 64.85 dollars ( Good thing for me mentally that I don’t feel the need to buy it ) but I understand how that feels of I gotta have it and to have it now before it’s gone 😳☹️😣😖😫😩😤I’ve looking at a 4k Blu-ray copy of The Last Unicorn that I have been waiting for but haven’t made a purchase yet but found out that there is a Wal Mart exclusive steelbook online for 29.96$ which is equivalent to 23.10£.But I’m that the Limited Edition movie set that you mentioned will probably come out during that day of its release and after RIGHT!!!❤😊😅😂
@@lippmb78 absolutely. Always the same when you finally pull the trigger and then there’s another edition. Getting ahold of my self control for impulse purchasing has been a big step. $65 really is too much for a single movie really isn’t it ?!
I was so excited about the hitcher as their collectors editions are lovely. But £50! Is that for the 4K disc that I don’t even need? (Don’t have the budget for a 4K set up) .
@@glyph2011 4k and Blu Ray in that box but it’s still a rather inflated price. Time it right / wait for sales and that £50 can be numerous other titles instead 🤷🏼♂️
@@PhillwithadoubleL It's actually not inflated at all. You get exactly what you pay for. Standalone 4K is £25, so you're basically paying another £25 for two books. That's par for the course as far as books are concerned. A newly released paperback screenplay is gonna be at least a tenner if not more. The Oppenheimer screenplay for example is retailing at about £13 last I checked. A 200 Page hardback is going to be at least £15, regardless of what it is. In the case of film-writing, those BFI Classics paperbacks for example are almost £15 brand new and they're half the page length of what we have here. I have no issue buying those for the films I want to read more about, so I certainly have no issue paying for a book twice as thick for more or less the same price. This set is not an example of collectors being overcharged. It's a simple case of collectors needing to come to terms with whether they actually want to read the books or not. If you don't, that's fine, buy the standard. If you do, great, but books cost money. No matter how you break down the costs, I can't find anything controversial about the price of this set. If anything they could be charging more. Just found your channel by the way, good stuff, subscribed.
I also don't have the full 4K set up. However this set is not over-priced. Standalone BD: £18 Paperback screenplay: at least £10 (newly printed screenplays like Oppenheimer retail at about £13) 200 page hardback: at least £15 (BFI Classics paperbacks retail at almost £15 and they're half the page count) So with conservative estimates on the costs of the books that's £43 altogether. £7 for a future-proofed 4K and the nice box bringing it all together is all you're really 'overpaying' for. The question is: do you want the books or not? Because if you do, there's no way you leave a bookshop with these two for less than £25. If you don't want to read the books, you don't have to buy them, and that's fine.
@@19jez89 I think my issue is mainly that the books that come in these sets. I generally don’t seem to get around to reading. When you break it down like that I see the cost reasons a little clearer. Maybe it because I just kinda wanted a limited edition but just not willing to pay the price for the extra stuff I don’t really use.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I think that's exactly it. People want a limited edition because it's a limited edition. I get it. I get FOMO for things I don't need (bloody Vinegar Syndrome slips, ha). But people tend to look at these sets in particular the wrong way. The question isn't "are you prepared to pay £50 for a single film?" because obviously that's insane. The question is "would you be prepared to walk in to a bookshop and buy these two books for £25?". Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of books I haven't read yet, but I know I will one day, even if it's years down the line. I don't think that's necessarily an issue. They're gonna be sat on my shelf whether I read them on day one or if I read them after my __th time watching the film a decade from now, so there needn't be a rush. If it's a film I haven't seen before I tend not to want to read a book about it straight after a first time watch anyway. If I like the film enough I know I will definitely return to it, so the book is something to savour for after the rewatch. I just got round to reading the original Drive novel in the last few months and that's been sat there for 2 years. I liked it so much, I went out and bought the sequel and read that straight after! It also reinvigorated my desire for a rewatch and to finally watch the disc in the set (obviously seen Drive numerous times since the film first came out, just never on the SS disc). Which in turn has me excitedly anticipating reading the other supplementary book afterwards!
At least you can sell that later on if you get bored with it. Overpriced things I usualy buy are used and/or not so popular that all I can do with them later on is to throw them to trashcan 🙁 but what ever, mind wants what it wants. As long you can pay your bills every month , who cares where you put youre "extra" money...
@@DVDhoarder that’s the thing with some of the boutique limited releases. A good majority seem to hold their value if you decided to sell on… well, at least until there’s another rerelease. Currently, ‘extra’ money I kinda want to put towards other things. Looking at mics / cameras and eventually a new studio for this RUclips stuff.
I’ve found second sight seem to be creeping up their prices little by little. I’m just glad that they offer up those standard releases at the same time. On disc extras are the only real ‘extra’ stuff that I really want.
@@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 The price for this one is fair. If we take the standalone cost of the 4K at £25 (whether that's a fair price itself is a different question), then you're paying an additional £25 for two books. That's what you'd expect to pay for them separately. Search for screenplays. Newly printed ones cost at least a tenner brand new. Oppenheimer is retailing at about £13 last I checked. A newly released 200 page hardback is going to be at least £15, whatever it is. For film-writing specifically, those BFI Classics paperbacks are almost £15 and they're half the page count of what you get here. I have no qualms buying those for the films I want to read more about, so paying more or less the same price for a book twice as thick (and in hardback) is a no-brainer. The bottom line is simple: do you want to buy the books or not? If you do, then there can be no complaints about the price. It's more than fair. There's just no world in which you walk in to a bookshop and come away with these two books for less than £25. You get exactly what you pay for.
The 4K just really isnt worth the money for me. Not even the standard editions. The standard Blu Ray is sufficient. I’m also a book and CD collector so I need to divide the cash! Btw I see the same thing happening in the book community with the special editions obsession. I learned my lesson there so I was prepared when I started collecting movies!
@@user-ul5bo2yb8k I’ve been very similar. Going for the standard blu ray over the standard 4k. Just don’t feel I need the slight picture uptick for a lot of movies. Completely didn’t realise that this kind of thing happened in the book community too. I buy books but probably not invested enough to notice the special editions there.
Second Sight are ridiculously overpriced in my opinion. That's why I don't often buy their boxed editions for films that I don't consider classics. The Hitcher on the other hand is one I'll be buying. I'll sell my German mediabook to get some money back.
@@MuckMan_Movies I think that’s the right way to buy these limited editions. If it’s a classic or a favourite for you. Then go for it (if it isn’t putting financial strain on you). Too many will go for the limited over the standard just for the sake of having that one more boutique box on the shelf. I grew tired of spending the higher amounts on movies I didn’t really care for to then take up extra room on the shelves… especially when the standard editions had everything I wanted from it 🤷🏼♂️
@@gurdipvirdee7176 absolutely. £50 for one movie… could get loads for that in CEX. Although I do find at times CEX can over price themselves. Just gotta shop around. I was looking at The Strain DVD box set earlier £20 on CEX. Think it’s around £6 on music magpie
🤣lord i don't own everything however i do try and wait a year or two normally sometimes and much of the time a good source for free or next to no cost films are recycling centres my pa's husbands a manager at one so i can go into areas were normal customers can't go like behind the counter and in the back room if she take me there the other day i got 31 free to me movies from that source had 32 but one out of 32 without a dvd in it isn't bad and you can get factory sealed ones not out of the rapping yet the most recent film i brought with money was civil war from this year
@@PhillwithadoubleL only ones they can't get or the very new releases like civil war and kingdom of the planet of the apes just a little too new unless they are very lucky
Yeah I'm not paying 50 for ONE movie. Specially for The Hitcher, which is not that great to begin with. Not every single movie ever made needs this "prestigious" treatment.
@@Groucho3321 thank you 🙌🏼 I thought I was alone in my thinking that The Hitcher is massively over hyped ! I’m guessing they needed to price up a big limited box more for making back the cost of the licence to distribute more than anything else. At least with The Guest they had the excuse of the music rights for that CD in the package.
Pick and choose your titles. You should never get in debt for a hobby , priotisation and discipline are key to collecting , collect for yourself, not others !
@@MattVs_Movies exactly what I try to preach Matt ✌🏼
It’s not just collecting movies.
It’s any collecting habit.
I collect Neca action figures.
Some of the old ones are ridiculous prices.
My advice is to collect only what you can comfortably afford.
Don’t get sucked into buying for the sake of shelf filling or because something new has been released.
Enjoy your collection but don’t get in debt for it or let it cause you stress.
@@dazdaz105 💯%
I’m enjoying my collection more now that I’ve limited it down
Good advice mate as I have a quite a bad collecting habit at the minute when I get obsessed with a certain movie I feel the need to collect anything & everything to do with that particular movie. I’m wasting all my spare money on stuff that I’ll be bored of in a few weeks time
I love that you tackle this side of collecting, cause it does have a dark side. I way overspent this summer on all the sales, so now I'm back to one film a month (till October, when VS has a sale again). As a collector, you really need will power. You need to control your FOMO or it will control you. We don't NEED any of this stuff, we WANT it. Keep doing these videos, it's important to talk about this.
@@jespernicolaj It really was / is an addiction. Making these videos helps me think through the habits a lot and realise how truly addicted I had become. Not only to the buying but the hoarding of titles too.
I think there are many of us in the same situation, but also a lot that don’t quite realise what they’re doing yet.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Absolutely true. Most people are in denial. And it is extremely hard to control, like any addiction, this is not less of an addiction than say drugs or alcohol. We just justify it more, cause it is not physically harmful, but mentally, it is the same strain. I think you need to say, I have this amount of money or titles I can buy every month AND I can only buy from THESE companies. I have sort of settled for Criterion, VS and Arrow. Films are like comic books. There are SO many you want, but if you focus really hard (and it IS hard) you end up getting the titles you ACTUALLY want. For me, it's hard work every day, keeping myself in check.
I've got the dvd , that's good enough for me.
@@laurasands8322 I think my existing disc is enough for me to be honest. I have a big interest in the behind the scenes stuff so temptation is there for the standard. At the moment though, I’m holding off. There’s no real rush or need as I have the main movie sat there already.
I have a German Blu Ray of The Hitcher, that will do me. There are many boutique movies I buy, but there are only a few ‘special editions’ I buy if there is a standard edition, I buy movies to have a certain title in my collection, I don’t buy them for the packaging. Recently brought Santa Sangre special edition from Severin UK, but it was worth the price as it comes with 4 discs and it is an amazing movie.
@@marymungleandmidge4080 I’m right there with you. Realising the packaging isn’t really what I want. It’s about the movie and the things that attract me more than the package are the on disc extras. Those behind the scenes look at the creation. Most standard edition have all of that stuff so there really is no need to pay the massive premium for that cardboard.
The problem is the more people turn to streaming,the fewer will buy a certain physical release so the companies will keep upping the prices to get as much cash return they can.
I think these are niche anyway. I’d love them to release them on streaming or digital too. Most of the films I love Hammer horror, anime and Universal horror you just can’t get digitally and forget streaming for older films unless it’s something like Jaws.
Great video Phill. Yea that Hitcher box is so pricey. I can buy a huge multi movie box set for that same price. I can’t keep up with prices like that. I just need to tell myself that getting the standard release is just fine.
Thanks Huck. When the standard release for this movie is sat there, for me. It seems silly to drop that $65 - $70 on the box set when really… it’s the on disc extras I’d be most interested in so the standard is generally enough.
Plus, not buying things straight away and worrying if you have the limited box… makes the sales more interesting to scout through when you don’t already have everything.
Went into HMV to buy "Challengers"...£12.99! Couldn't believe it. There usually £15 for the new standard blu-ray release. It was a pleasant suprise! Not sure why 13 quid feels alot better than 15 😅. Started to get alot more picky these days wth what im getting on premium, certanly no blind buys! Awesome video mate 👌
@@totalmovierecall that’s a pretty good price. Especially with it being HMV exclusive.
I’ve moved to being more picky recently. When the hype dies down, generally so does that urge to buy. Don’t feel like I’ve missed out on any. Happier to be picking things up when I’m ready rather than rushing to have it on the shelf.
Some great points!
@@pugwall316 thank you 🙏🏼
I know I should limit myself and set a budget, especially as I've picked up another expensive habit or two (no not cocaine or anything dodgy, just more 'collecting/being adicted to' something perfectly fine... unless it puts you into debt). I find myself though "spending whilst I can" because of medical and other factors that could put me out of my well paid job 'tomorrow' and doing so not only feels like I'm preparing for a future when I'll *have* to budget, but also helps me to relieve the stresses of thinking about the parts of my life that could lead to that job loss.
On the upside I no longer drink so I do have more money to spend (and can realise when I'm drunkenly ordering way beyond my means)... but still I know my spending, wherever it goes, is at least partially a replacement addiction for the alcohol; well at least it's not physically killing me... and I have _improved_ from a time just before and just after the alcohol when I was so depressed I 'needed' a title to come through the letterbox every day. None were titles I didn't want but I could have waited for many to get cheaper if I wasn't working (very hard) to time my purchases so I wouldn't get a day when nothing arrived!
P.S. Yes, with all that said, I have that CE of *The Hitcher* on order... and my orders *do* tend to concentrate on LE that may sell out (as a steelbook collector that's a 'bad thing' _BUT_ for other titles I;m getting better at waiting a few months at least for a good price drop to a target that I set and try not to waiver from.
@@blujustin4175 I’ve been a lot better with things now I’ve adjusted to waiting for those titles that I don’t want limited or just not going to have time to watch. It’s cleared my head a lot by doing so too.
It’s been a source of other issues too, with partners questioning how many parcels are coming through the door. I admit,
When I look back, the sheer volume of things was ridiculous… and there was no way I was getting around to watching or making use of ‘everything’.
It’s definitely worth budgeting and just considering if the thing is going to get its use in the short term. So many titles I was buying at full price had often dropped in price before I’d had chance to watch them, or just been dumped on a streaming platform. Not all were movies I wanted to keep in my collection either.
Thanks. I needed this talking to. I did oreorder The Hitcher. Can I afford it? Yes. Do I need it? No. I dont even have room for it. I have over 6K blu-ray sitting in boxes. I often watching sonething on streaming because I dont want to soend an hour trying to find the disc. 😐
@@bahet1061 that’s a solid collection at 6k. I use streaming quite regularly too. I still like having a collection but it’s more limited now with what I buy for that collection.
A lot of the titles are easily available over time at a cheaper cost if I wanted to pick up in the future. Even if I have to pay an inflated scalper price. Limiting that purchase up front saves me more money overall when I just don’t buy the stuff I really don’t need.
I’ve found that clearing down my collection has also cleared my mind a little. Actually more at ease with a smaller and more curated collection now. Strange, I always thought I wanted a large library of movies. 🤷🏼♂️
I do love the hitcher. I do have the import Blu-ray. I might wait for a united stateside release or get the standard. I only like these limited for my all-time favorites. Conan was one. But not everything needs a limited release. But maybe there's someone out there that wants it. I can't even find hitcher on the website just a picture
@@MediaFeverPitch yeah, there will certainly be folks out there that love this movie. This box set is great for them. Not a box set for me personally though. Might upgrade the standard for the extras at some point but no massive rush on it.
I try to keep the box set buying to just my absolute faves now.
I never keep track of what vox sets come out, I just find nice surprises in the secondhand stores
@@ethandumar2398 would love to have in store discoveries like that again.
Not sure there’s many box sets I miss need on. Social media feeds me too much info.
I have the Dawn of the dead box set but I love the movie. I ordered The hitcher minutes after it was up for pre order for the same reason. I will probably spend £100 on frames for the 'lobby cards' of both sets and the Dog soldiers one once my new home office is finished.
To be honest my 4k problem is getting as bad as my Lego movie tie in problem.
@@mikeedwards4609 you’re the right sort person to be getting these sets. You love the movies AND you’re making use of the lobby cards too. 🙌🏼
My Lego problem isn’t too bad. Just the odd one is fine for me with Lego. Do enjoy the Lego sets but just don’t go all in for them.
Hi Phill, I do kinda budget myself now as it can get out of hand if you don’t and more than likely the price of the desired film will go down in a short time. £50 for the Hitcher…😮 they are having a laugh. Take care mate👍😃👍
One of the things I was always conscious of when starting RUclips was that need to be constantly buying new stuff to keep content flowing. I didn’t want to fall into that trap.
It would be nice to grab a copy of the Hitcher to show on the channel but at £50 for the one movie that really, I’m not the biggest fan of. It’s just not worth it.
You’ve found a nice way to show the new releases with your videos without going over the top.
Do you ever find when you’re doing your videos that there’s a temptation to perhaps over spend from time to time ?
@@PhillwithadoubleLI’ve never bought a film just to show and fill the space in a video. I actually don’t show all my pick up’s 😬 I don’t want my viewers to get bored by me endlessly chatting, so I will hold back on showing everything. Buying just to show would definitely be a slippery slope. 👍
In collecting I try to be reasonable, set limits, I’m a big fan of 80s horror, so For that I try to prioritize getting limited editions, that goes for my favourite movies as well. for other genres like action movies, standards editions are good enough(I treat them like baseball cards, flick ‘em, toss ‘em, stack ‘em, not worrying or being picky), And just Get them during sales. It’s easier on the mind and wallet.
@@gleamingtv3946 in the last it used to be all new releases. When a sale popped up there were few titles that I still wanted or needed. I’d already spent that money for them to be on the shelf… a lot unwatched.
Now, hoping that without the silly buying habit still going on that I can get out to the sales and actually find the things o really want at a good price… in waiting I also find a lot of those titles no longer appeal or I just don’t feel as though I need any more.
Standards should be good enough generally unless it’s a movie you love.
Honestly I generally wait for stuff to go on sale. Unless it's a film that I absolutely adored as a kid/young adult I can wait. Having said that I dropped £90 on importing those Conan Arrow releases and dropped about £130 on those Bruce Lee Arrow movies as well. They were movies I loved as a kid though
If you love the movie then I 100% see the reasons to go for that nice set. When I title is pretty average then I think it needs some serious consideration to why you’re dropping that amount on a set.
I don’t massively go in for books or art… so a standard edition will usually do me just fine. Even then, some I now wait for the standards on sale. Picked up a bunch of arrow and second sight standard editions through various sales and I’ve been happy with those editions.
@@PhillwithadoubleL oh yeah. I just bought The Game Trilogy from Arrow and Upgrade from Second Sight on sale. Really good price
4K standard edition for me. Same with You're Next. I'll be waiting for a price drop though... the limited editions just take up too much space and I never look at the postcards / booklet. I do appreciate how Second Sight give the standard option immediately unlike other labels
Must admit. Still tempted by the limited for You’re Next but… the only thing that I really want are those on disc extras. Really zero point in me going for the limited. As you say, it’s nice that second sight at least are releasing the standard editions at the same time.
I’ve given myself 2 special boutique titles in 2024 and I’ve brought just one - The Hitcher. To be honest I’m not going to get something that much again just for a book and the like. I’m much preferring regular issues. I’ve gotten over the “limited edition” stuff. There is IMHO a cookie cutter feel to them at times. If another film comes out like that I’d just get a standard edition unless it’s say Masters of the Universe.
😂😂 The irony is I did get that Day of the Dead set I treated myself to after my father died, as it’s a title I loved. It was the only one to get it in 4K.
Yes to all those questions it’s caused me debt issues.>, relationship issues and I’ve spent far, far too much time obsessing over physical media.
@@nicholasdickens2801 sorry to hear about the issues the physical media addiction has caused you.
It sounds like you have it reigned in pretty well now though… At the minute.
I’m going for the more standard editions now. I get the content I want at a fraction of the price. The bigger editions can be picked up if it’s a movie I truly love.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I never have the confidence to say I’ve licked it. We live in a consumer driven society that’s very well able to sell you stuff all the time. I do my best to resist those impulses. Thank you for your kind words.
i did slow down with buying second change movies right now i only buy new it gives me time to think what i realy want and instead of 30 old ones i pick up 3-5 movies i realy love in 2 months or so
@@FilmverzamelaarVincent I’ve slowed way down now too. Think I’ve picked up around 6 or 7 titles the last few months. It used to be that or more every month. The pick ups now are always much more considered. Tired of things sitting around for (sometimes) years unused.
We're Nostalgia junkies and Boutique Blu Ray companies are our dealers...they got us by the short and...
Hairies ?
Must admit. Saw Tank girl from Eureka get announced earlier, impulse to order was there. I don’t know why. Can’t ever remember being a massive fan of the movie. But ties into what you say ‘Nostalgia Junkies’
I did order The Hitcher set but I put aside some funds when I heard it was coming soon. but I have skipped a few Second Sight sets and tend to only focus on the 4K ones more now. I like you am getting more selective as the market is flooded with these sets now.
@@letstalkcriterion it’s the weird thing… as there are more and more of these similar looking rigid box set. The less special they’re feeling. It almost like they’re becoming the new normal / expectation.
One of the reasons I’m being more selective. Want my favourite movies to stand out… not get lost in the crowd.
I've never went into debt or something, but i try to budget now and it kinda works for me. I still preorder stuff but i wait for sales and promotions etc. and i haven't missed anything that i really want. I browse and browse, add some stuff then see the total and think about it again and i can close the window more often than not...
@@creatora123 I’ve been more patient lately. And it’s paying off. Not filling my shelves with stuff I never really wanted and also, not paying the premium to have straight away.
That waiting can take away the impulse to own when the hype has died down. Especially with the limited boutique stuff
For me the biggest hassle is storage. I think of the room a giant boxset will grab. I usually just stick to regular release.
I do have to create a monthly budget next though lol
The storage issue is real. I started clearing out some of my collection. The movies that I didn’t really care for or don’t feel an impulse to go back to. I feel better for having the clearer space over owning a large collection.
It’s weird. I thought I needed a big collection but feel better without the big collection 🤷🏼♂️
Clear space, clear mind !
Hi Phill, great video. Prices are going too high for collectors. I've not got a 4k player and these days 88 film and Second Sight only release these collectors editions on 4k disc with the blu ray. I don't want a 4k, so I have to buy the standard edition blu ray. All the best. 👍
@@garypage1963 if I’m honest Gary. Even though I class myself as a collector. There’s a bunch I bought that I never really needed that special edition of. The content I love are the extras on disc which come on the standard edition anyway.
There’s a few titles I like a special edition of… if I truly love the movie but if not, for space saving AND cost, standard edition is more than enough for me.
But yeah, generally prices are being pushed way high. Special edition of Tank Girl just announced by Eureka is coming in at £27 which is getting to be a kinda standard price for these hard box editions.
I can relate to this. I find myself overspending on movies then when I really enjoy a movie I want to buy figures & stuff to do with that movie but then when the parcels arrive & I open them I’m not that fussed about the item then. I think I’m just addicted to ordering / purchasing stuff & the buzz of opening packages. I need to do something about it as I’m getting myself into debt because of my habits
@@nks80 completely understand that pull to grab everything.
I considered if it was more to do with the thrill of ordering and receiving more than the item itself. It’s difficult to pin down reasonings or to try and even break that habit. I literally cut myself off from all the stuff, put it in boxes / didn’t use it and took them out of sight, had a few weeks without the stuff and then considered if I missed it. It created the beginnings of all the consideration of if we actually need all the things. It certainly made me think twice when shopping, often I’d still click add to cart or wishlist but not actually make an immediate purchase. Then, have a few days to really think about the need or use of that thing.
One thing I am sure about, as nice as it is to collect. Don’t let it become that noise around your neck in terms of debt or hoarding.
I’ve found limiting things down has helped me enjoy the stuff more 🤷🏼♂️
@@PhillwithadoubleLthanks for the advice mate. I definitely need to give my head a wobble with it all. I’m just sick of the way I get obsessed with something then I feel the need to order everything about whatever I’m obsessed with at that time then after a few weeks I find myself trying to sell the stuff on eBay as I get bored so quickly! 😞
@@nks80 you’re not alone my friend. I know others that still do the same. I think my age has possibly helped me start to think a little more about these things.
Great video Phill! 💯
I find it sad when one's collection can be a source of contention on a family/relationship level for whatever reason. Sometimes it feels like a double standard, I spend my money on what I like (that blu-ray on the shelf over there). And others spend their money on what they like, for instance (going out/ a big trip).
It's interesting how you can't point at an expensive trip out and say why did you buy that. Yet you can point at a blu-ray on a shelf and call it a waste of money or a problem.
Kind regards,
Zak!
P.S. I worked on Pan as well ✨
@@zakwyldeproductions what’s in my head at the moment with collecting. All the social groups were in to share our passion. It’s almost like they feed that spending, when people feel the need to have to buy something to be involved and included.
I’m all for collecting and having a collection but it’s where the line is drawn for what we’re buying and the reasons for doing so. I’ve been guilty in the past of buying for the sake of it. I’ve realised that more now and as my collection started to take over… I’ve started to think about things in a slightly different way.
At my age, I’ve seen others that have struggled with relationships because of the habit and the volume of stuff. I like to just challenge the thoughts processes on some buying habits.
It’s healthy to have a hobby and be able to enjoy it. Until it isn’t.
What did you do on Pan, Zak ? It was a fun job for my part !
@@PhillwithadoubleL 👍! I really enjoy your videos! On Pan I was one of the miners. It was actually the first film I worked on. I remember the day they made us all (well the miners anyway) learn that song 2hrs before shooting all day 😆.
@@zakwyldeproductions haha. We had to go into the studio to record for those songs.
Glad you’re enjoying the content so far ✌🏼
@@PhillwithadoubleL Awesome 😎! Keep up the good work 💪.
I haven't set myself a budget but I always make sure my bills are paid before I start collecting each paycheck. I don’t use credit cards at all. I mostly search for cheaper stuff. There are very few films/shows I crave special editions for. The only thing I've pre-ordered so far was the limited/numbered US Doctor Who 13-series box set last year. The only thing I'm pre-ordering this year is the Toho Godzilla Minus One set. Gotta be selective when the nice sets are so pricey.
@@texturedpavement yeah, I’ve learned that one. Take care of the home first.
I’ve not really used a credit card for years now. Happier for any debt beyond the mortgage to be cleared.
I haven’t budgeted yet but my pick ups in general are way down from where they used to be. I’m with you in respect of special editions have to be for movies or shows that are special to me.
It is a problem with special or limited editions!
If you want the movie and can afford it without going into debt ore-order it as it will be cheaper than buying from scalpers
I myself am happy with the standard edition as they fill these limited editions full of tat
@@JohnDoe-bz4yl that’s the thing when you boil it down. How much extra you’re paying for the box / postcards and a slim book.
I’ve been sticking to standard a lot recently with the only limited releases being the movies that I truly think are great.
I often wonder if these titles only really sell out so quick because of the scalpers.
If This Was 1974~This Chap Would Be A Good Fit For JETHRO TULL...
@@ELPCOTILLION-SD1970 😂😂
Erm, thank you 😂
I've always skipped out of the deluxe editions, it's too much money for a book, postcards, a poster, and whatever else they put in that box. I only need the movie, since I never end up looking at the book anyway, and they take up a lot of space on the shelf.
While ive been going through my collection ive realised that with these editions. The only things i really care about are the movie and on disc extras. As you say, most other stuff sits unused.
I try now to only go deluxe if it’s a movie I truly care about. The Hitcher unfortunately isn’t one of them.
I picked up an ex rental vhs of The Hitcher over a year ago and have still not played the tape😂
Have seen it before and its a great film I enjoy when I have watched it. Can't beat Rutger Hauer even in a bad film he brings something to the party.
Saying that if you love the film then 50 pound maybe easily justified but I wouldn't pay it.
Think some will get it watch it once if not at all and will sit gathering dust.
I have overspent many times on things I don't need and it does not bring happiness but stress trying to balance the books.
@@sparkstron73 that’s my thing at the moment. £50 for one movie.
The standard edition is £18 for the blu ray. Do I want to pay an extra £32 for the book and box. Then consider what happens with that book and box. It gets looked at once, possibly not even read the book. Then sits on the shelf. I’ve paid an extra £32 for shelf decoration. Not sure if I’d rather put that difference to collecting something else for display 🤷🏼♂️
@@PhillwithadoubleL Owning the best quality edition of the film I get, if it is a vast improvement.
18 pound is still alot to me for a film I rarely watch and have on dvd and vhs already.
I don't have any disposable income but still manage to spend beyond my means. I guess a lot is boredom and feeling the need to acquire even if there is no need.😄
Im in a similar place with Twister 4k. I like the movie, but I think £45 is too much. I am going to wait for the standard release of Twister.
I try to budget, £35 for a "special edition" is my max. The only exception would be if they started to do Hammer movies 4k special edition, then that may go up, depending on what's with it.
I think, I am happy with the special editions I have, ones I missed, I have the standard versions brought in 2 for £30 4k offer on amazon or hmv.
@@MrMRoboto1 personally, I think £45 is way too much for Twister. 🌪️ to be honest, it’s not one I’d be chasing down a special edition of. I’d even potentially wait to see if they did a normal double pack when the new one hits Physical.
I’d go high on a special edition on a movie but it would have to be for a movie I absolutely adore. I’ve been picking up special editions in the past purely for the limited packaging but realising now, I don’t need the limited packaging for movies I don’t care about ‘that’ much.
I’ve been selling off some of my limited editions now. Curating down that collection. Future purchases are more considered than they used to be. With space at a premium. I don’t need a special edition of it all.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I was trying to think of a movie that I love that I would go higher for, but couldn't think of any. Wait until next week when one gets released and ill go "ah that one."
Im not fully sold on Twisters, I, going to stream it when its out to give it a chance then possibly pick up the disc version.
I have brought my first digital movie now though.
Did you pick up anything in the amazon sale?
@@MrMRoboto1 I pretty much avoided the Amazon sale. I have a wish list set up now so if they have a sale / prime day I tend to head to my wishlist to see if anything I actually want is on offer. Helps me avoid those more random unnecessary purchases.
I might pop to HMV next week though. They have a couple of good offers for x and Pearl which I’m tempted by.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Thats what Ive done on Amazon. I did notice that a number of the 4ks went from £19.99 to £14.99, but most were in the 2 for £30 offer before the sale.
I did pick up back to the future on 4k was £26 I think. I did use a voucher for listening to a podcast through amazon at the start of the month and thought Id save it until the prime day.
I did see them, I am going into Derby on Sunday, if I see them, I may pick them up.
While The Hitcher may seem excessive, £80 for Louis Feuillade : The Complete Crime Serials from Eureka makes my wallet scream.
@@monkeymanbob that sounds like a set that won’t get a standard release. Especially bad if there’s a couple of other big titles same month.
At the end of the day it's the disc we want. The box sets look good but is it worth it in the end as the price could go up or down in years to come or just end up being damaged when trying to get the disc out. I have started ripping my discs as it got out of control with storage space.
@@djelski927 agreed. When did the prestige of the box and packaging overtake the movie and disc content ?!
I’ve seen a few start ripping their discs. Has been a consideration
I have a bit of credit card debt from the last couple of months… been ordering quite a few titles… but I’m also waiting on some inheritance money… 😬😬😬
Will that inheritance money clear the debt and buy you more stuff too ?
Be careful of them fees on the credit cards. They can rinse ya
@@PhillwithadoubleL Yes they will 😀
@@hvitekristesdod get working on that wish list of titles 😂
@@PhillwithadoubleL I’m trying, I have over 150 each on unobstructed view and amazon… should probably delete a few things for now lol
@@PhillwithadoubleL Trying, got about 300 on two different sites, been deleting a few here and there 😁 Also it won’t let me talk about the sites here or I get deleted for spam…
I’ll be testing out Amazons lowest price promise on the Hitcher - pre-ordered at £69.99 and now dropped to £49.99.
What I do usually is pre-order with Amazon so I have the order in should it sell out, and then re-evaluate whether I want to go through with it nearer the time of release.
@@RetroReels amazon are usually spot on with the price promise.
I’d be scared of ordering and reevaluating, like the idea of it but I know I’m daft enough to forget about orders more often than not.
@@PhillwithadoubleL In my mind, if you were to forget about it you didn’t really want it in the first place. Amazon are by far the best with customer service and no quibble returns etc.
I know a lot of this falls under fomo, but you can’t hang around with the ltd editions etc as you never know if/when they will sell out. Lots of people made that mistake last year with the Jaws Film Vault set, although that was somewhat a fumbled release as had sold out before it was even officially announced and reviewers such as myself didn’t even get one as they did with the first wave.
@@RetroReels have you managed to get hold of a Film Vault Jaws now ?
That where a lot of my FOMO came from. Never want to miss out.
I’ve even ordered on impulse when a boutique label posts about stock numbers being low. Just that fear of not having access really niggles at me.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Yes, luckily I managed to grab one just above retail on eBay to complete the set and get my review out.
I know the niggles you speak of, If it’s affordable and it’s something I’m likely to want at some point in the future I always make sure I get an order in. People complaining on social media that they missed out usually have plenty of time to get an order in, if you can’t afford to buy it at twice the price, you shouldn’t be buying it at all - priorities are all wrong. And you shouldn’t feel the need to keep up with the Jones’s. The psychology of it all is very interesting when you step away and look at it.
Any reason why you would order from Amazon rather than SS themselves? Pretty much guaranteed to get a damaged box through Amazon. For the cost of delivery (couple of extra quid), I think it's worth having SS wrap the thing up properly...
That artwork on the boxset is just plain to me and doesn't justify the price. That goes for any boutique label release I'll pass on mediocre artwork
@@ocfloydian it is quite vanilla looking isn’t it. I’ll be going for a standard edition on this one… when it hits the sales
Great video, Phill👍. So I’ve googling to find out how much is 50 pounds is in US dollars and it came up to 64.85 dollars ( Good thing for me mentally that I don’t feel the need to buy it ) but I understand how that feels of I gotta have it and to have it now before it’s gone 😳☹️😣😖😫😩😤I’ve looking at a 4k Blu-ray copy of The Last Unicorn that I have been waiting for but haven’t made a purchase yet but found out that there is a Wal Mart exclusive steelbook online for 29.96$ which is equivalent to 23.10£.But I’m that the Limited Edition movie set that you mentioned will probably come out during that day of its release and after RIGHT!!!❤😊😅😂
@@lippmb78 absolutely. Always the same when you finally pull the trigger and then there’s another edition.
Getting ahold of my self control for impulse purchasing has been a big step.
$65 really is too much for a single movie really isn’t it ?!
Compared to the equivalency of the dollar versus the pound, yeah it sure is!
I was so excited about the hitcher as their collectors editions are lovely. But £50! Is that for the 4K disc that I don’t even need? (Don’t have the budget for a 4K set up) .
@@glyph2011 4k and Blu Ray in that box but it’s still a rather inflated price. Time it right / wait for sales and that £50 can be numerous other titles instead 🤷🏼♂️
@@PhillwithadoubleL It's actually not inflated at all. You get exactly what you pay for. Standalone 4K is £25, so you're basically paying another £25 for two books. That's par for the course as far as books are concerned.
A newly released paperback screenplay is gonna be at least a tenner if not more. The Oppenheimer screenplay for example is retailing at about £13 last I checked.
A 200 Page hardback is going to be at least £15, regardless of what it is. In the case of film-writing, those BFI Classics paperbacks for example are almost £15 brand new and they're half the page length of what we have here. I have no issue buying those for the films I want to read more about, so I certainly have no issue paying for a book twice as thick for more or less the same price.
This set is not an example of collectors being overcharged. It's a simple case of collectors needing to come to terms with whether they actually want to read the books or not. If you don't, that's fine, buy the standard. If you do, great, but books cost money.
No matter how you break down the costs, I can't find anything controversial about the price of this set. If anything they could be charging more.
Just found your channel by the way, good stuff, subscribed.
I also don't have the full 4K set up. However this set is not over-priced.
Standalone BD: £18
Paperback screenplay: at least £10 (newly printed screenplays like Oppenheimer retail at about £13)
200 page hardback: at least £15 (BFI Classics paperbacks retail at almost £15 and they're half the page count)
So with conservative estimates on the costs of the books that's £43 altogether.
£7 for a future-proofed 4K and the nice box bringing it all together is all you're really 'overpaying' for.
The question is: do you want the books or not? Because if you do, there's no way you leave a bookshop with these two for less than £25. If you don't want to read the books, you don't have to buy them, and that's fine.
@@19jez89 I think my issue is mainly that the books that come in these sets. I generally don’t seem to get around to reading. When you break it down like that I see the cost reasons a little clearer. Maybe it because I just kinda wanted a limited edition but just not willing to pay the price for the extra stuff I don’t really use.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I think that's exactly it. People want a limited edition because it's a limited edition. I get it. I get FOMO for things I don't need (bloody Vinegar Syndrome slips, ha). But people tend to look at these sets in particular the wrong way. The question isn't "are you prepared to pay £50 for a single film?" because obviously that's insane. The question is "would you be prepared to walk in to a bookshop and buy these two books for £25?".
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of books I haven't read yet, but I know I will one day, even if it's years down the line. I don't think that's necessarily an issue. They're gonna be sat on my shelf whether I read them on day one or if I read them after my __th time watching the film a decade from now, so there needn't be a rush.
If it's a film I haven't seen before I tend not to want to read a book about it straight after a first time watch anyway. If I like the film enough I know I will definitely return to it, so the book is something to savour for after the rewatch.
I just got round to reading the original Drive novel in the last few months and that's been sat there for 2 years. I liked it so much, I went out and bought the sequel and read that straight after! It also reinvigorated my desire for a rewatch and to finally watch the disc in the set (obviously seen Drive numerous times since the film first came out, just never on the SS disc). Which in turn has me excitedly anticipating reading the other supplementary book afterwards!
I don't look at the sites Phill. If I did I'd probably be in big financial trouble.
It’s the social media pages that catch me out. That’s where the hype first grabs me.
Maybe I quit social media eh ?!
At least you can sell that later on if you get bored with it. Overpriced things I usualy buy are used and/or not so popular that all I can do with them later on is to throw them to trashcan 🙁 but what ever, mind wants what it wants. As long you can pay your bills every month , who cares where you put youre "extra" money...
@@DVDhoarder that’s the thing with some of the boutique limited releases. A good majority seem to hold their value if you decided to sell on… well, at least until there’s another rerelease.
Currently, ‘extra’ money I kinda want to put towards other things. Looking at mics / cameras and eventually a new studio for this RUclips stuff.
I tend to find the Second Sight limited edition releases are too expensive and all you get is a essay book and 6x postcards .. not even a poster.
I’ve found second sight seem to be creeping up their prices little by little.
I’m just glad that they offer up those standard releases at the same time. On disc extras are the only real ‘extra’ stuff that I really want.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Agree. Yes prices increased from £40-50 ish now for limited etd thats too much. To me its worth £25-30 max.
@@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 even at the £25 - £30, really… it needs to be a movie I 100% want to drop that money on a single title
@@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 The price for this one is fair. If we take the standalone cost of the 4K at £25 (whether that's a fair price itself is a different question), then you're paying an additional £25 for two books. That's what you'd expect to pay for them separately.
Search for screenplays. Newly printed ones cost at least a tenner brand new. Oppenheimer is retailing at about £13 last I checked.
A newly released 200 page hardback is going to be at least £15, whatever it is. For film-writing specifically, those BFI Classics paperbacks are almost £15 and they're half the page count of what you get here. I have no qualms buying those for the films I want to read more about, so paying more or less the same price for a book twice as thick (and in hardback) is a no-brainer.
The bottom line is simple: do you want to buy the books or not? If you do, then there can be no complaints about the price. It's more than fair. There's just no world in which you walk in to a bookshop and come away with these two books for less than £25. You get exactly what you pay for.
The 4K just really isnt worth the money for me. Not even the standard editions. The standard Blu Ray is sufficient. I’m also a book and CD collector so I need to divide the cash! Btw I see the same thing happening in the book community with the special editions obsession. I learned my lesson there so I was prepared when I started collecting movies!
@@user-ul5bo2yb8k I’ve been very similar. Going for the standard blu ray over the standard 4k. Just don’t feel I need the slight picture uptick for a lot of movies.
Completely didn’t realise that this kind of thing happened in the book community too. I buy books but probably not invested enough to notice the special editions there.
Second Sight are ridiculously overpriced in my opinion. That's why I don't often buy their boxed editions for films that I don't consider classics. The Hitcher on the other hand is one I'll be buying. I'll sell my German mediabook to get some money back.
@@MuckMan_Movies I think that’s the right way to buy these limited editions. If it’s a classic or a favourite for you. Then go for it (if it isn’t putting financial strain on you). Too many will go for the limited over the standard just for the sake of having that one more boutique box on the shelf. I grew tired of spending the higher amounts on movies I didn’t really care for to then take up extra room on the shelves… especially when the standard editions had everything I wanted from it 🤷🏼♂️
Hi, CEX is where I shop. The second hand market is good.❤ £50 is to much mate!
@@gurdipvirdee7176 absolutely. £50 for one movie… could get loads for that in CEX.
Although I do find at times CEX can over price themselves. Just gotta shop around.
I was looking at The Strain DVD box set earlier £20 on CEX. Think it’s around £6 on music magpie
🤣lord i don't own everything however i do try and wait a year or two normally sometimes and much of the time a good source for free or next to no cost films are recycling centres my pa's husbands a manager at one so i can go into areas were normal customers can't go like behind the counter and in the back room if she take me there the other day i got 31 free to me movies from that source had 32 but one out of 32 without a dvd in it isn't bad and you can get factory sealed ones not out of the rapping yet the most recent film i brought with money was civil war from this year
@@paulrose319 amazing seeing how much the prices can drop after just a year.
Worth waiting if you’re not in a mad rush to watch the particular movie.
@@PhillwithadoubleL only ones they can't get or the very new releases like civil war and kingdom of the planet of the apes just a little too new unless they are very lucky
Yeah I'm not paying 50 for ONE movie. Specially for The Hitcher, which is not that great to begin with. Not every single movie ever made needs this "prestigious" treatment.
@@Groucho3321 thank you 🙌🏼 I thought I was alone in my thinking that The Hitcher is massively over hyped !
I’m guessing they needed to price up a big limited box more for making back the cost of the licence to distribute more than anything else.
At least with The Guest they had the excuse of the music rights for that CD in the package.