PHYSICAL MEDIA collecting… ADDICTED to ORDERING more than OWNING ?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Buy me a coffee at www.buymeacoff... and help support the channel
“Is the pleasure of the ANTICIPATION greater than the pleasure of ACQUISITION ?”
It’s a phrase I read on a newsletter from RUclipsr Ali Abdaal and it kinda stuck with me…
As I look back through my collection.
I wonder. Am I more addicted to the actual ordering process and receiving something more than owning the thing ?
Let me know what you think in the comments ?
Is all of your collection for things that bring you joy or was it the joy of ordering and anticipating that drew you to place the order ?
Let’s discuss.
Check out these other videos
Physical media Storage Solution - • PHYSICAL MEDIA collect...
Collecting or Hoarding - • PHYSICAL MEDIA collect...
Limited Edition Blu Ray vs Standard edition - • LIMITED EDITIONS vs ST...
Social media
Twitter bi...
Facebook / phillmartinofficial
Instagram www.instagram....
All music and sound effects included in this video are from Epidemic Sound
You can claim a free trial of epidemic sound or join up using the following link.
share.epidemic...
I can relate to this video. Last year I went a bit nuts with buying blue rays. Most of which were blind buys. The excitement of waiting for them to arrive was immense. But when I received them they would get a quick look over and then get put on the shelf. This year I have decided to apply the breaks and actually take the time to watch what I purchased. I have been watching at least one movie a week (sometimes two) and checking out the extras as well. And it's a rewarding experience and makes me actually appreciate what I bought instead of chasing the purchasing high.
👆🏼👆🏼 exactly this.
This is what I want to get back to. I’m applying the brakes and having a clear out of those titles which accumulated in the hope that my collection can be those movies that I get value from. Be it the extras or the repeat viewing.
Those habits and that addiction to ordering have led to losing a bit of magic of receiving titles that I really care about.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I agree! It takes the magic away just a little bit. Since I've started watching the movies I've bought I have begun to get that magic back. And I enjoy the sense of excitement I'm getting from watching my blind buys and knowing next to nothing about them! And if I end up not getting on with the movie I can feel ok about letting it go. Without having that horrible feeling of anxiety about getting rid of it!
I am fascinated by collectors. I watch quite a few on RUclips . I really appreciate that you talk about the negative aspects of collecting. Like you I believe it's an addiction.
I watch a lot of collectors too. I think it’s what started me on this path… but for me. Thinking about collections and seeing others and how they collect made me think another way.
It fascinates me too. Particularly when it becomes that habit or addiction when you can see things accumulating beyond your particular interests for the smallest of reasons.
A lot of the traits of collecting like this actually line in to recognised addiction behaviours but it isn’t recognised in the same way.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I really do appreciate your honesty. I have around 600 dvds I would say but have binned about 95 percent of the covers and put the discs in dvds binders so nothing is displayed. I keep them under my bed. I got most of mine from cex and or charity shops. Some on Ebay amazon etc but haven't spent alot on them tbh. Most were less than 50 p ( I had shops doing 20 for a pound at one point). Do you ever think I could go on a holiday with the money I spent on films? Sorry to focus on the negatives but like I say I find it interesting
@@findlay1arches I think I could have done a lot with the money spent on dvd and Blu ray. We all claim to be movie fans yet so many of us plough money into accumulating the movies rather than affording a better tv to enjoy them on. Boggles my mind at times.
I’ve been appreciating the space since moving my collection around and starting to clear out.
I’m still a movie fan but now starting to understand that I just don’t need them all / can’t watch them all and could use the money for other things too… just don’t tell the collector groups on social media. I’d get lynched !
@@PhillwithadoubleL secret safe with me haha I'm glad your noticing this yourself and correcting it. My uncles marriage broke down and a huge part of that was his VHS them dvd collection. It's quite scary how a hobby can end up so destructive
@@PhillwithadoubleL What a good post. Totally on board with your thoughts. I use to be a collector but not anymore. I find it dont have the urge to own anymore, im happy just to stream as these days im let down by most films and like you i find i can use the money on other practical things but i am 40 now so maybe thats a old man thought!
I think this rings true for many people now. I remember when I was a kid in the 80’s, I’d see a film at the cinema and wait 6 months to rent it. Then when the sell through market too off, the films I bought were films I’d seen and loved. Now most purchases are blind buys and £10-£15 a time for a blind buy is pretty crazy when you think about it. The limited edition blind buys at £25 upwards is just bizarre. I think your idea of renting a movie first for a couple of quid is a good idea. All new releases can be rented and if you like it, fine, if not you will be £3 out of pocket rather than £15 and then stuck with a film you will never revisit again.
I’ve done the blind buying so many times over the years. It’s starting to feel a little much keeping on top of it all at times.
We used to rent so often in the past and that kind of thing has pretty much disappeared from a lot of collectors mindsets.
It’s something I need to do more regular.
Similarly not getting dragged into buying the limited edition of something because it’s limited when I’m not even sure what the film is at times. Why not get the basic edition first (and a lot cheaper) or rent it to seen if it’s something I should be spending £25 - £40 on.
Im a new subscriber, i really enjoy your channel. It just popped up in my feed and ended up watching like 5 videos in a row 😂😂. Keep it up brother!!
5 in a row. Nice.
I suggest taking a break before I drive you insane 😂
Not long since got going to be honest. Still trying to find my way a little but hope i can make people stop and think from time to time.
Next stop, get my head around some live streams too
This was me exactly . I’ve always collected media , since VHS days , but when Covid hit I went hard into it . Exactly like you describe in your video . My collection sits at just over 3000 titles now , including 800 4K’s …..Well at the begining of 2024 I ended that . I’m back on track to just purchasing a few titles a month just like I use to. It’s a slippery slope , try to make sure you’re purchasing movies for your collection for the right reasons . Good informative video . Thanks for sharing .
COVID really shook things up and changed our habits didnt it.
I’m in the process of clearing out to take down those numbers again. I just want the good stuff in my collection now.
It’s like a switch flicked in my head and I’ve suddenly become more aware of what I’ve been doing.
Pulling it back though. Glad you managed to recognise things and pull back too ✌🏼
Jennifer 8 exceeded my expectations from Scream Factory. 😊 Great video.
There’s the odd hidden treasure to be discovered isnt there. I know I’ve seen Jennifer 8, I’m sure my sister had it on VHS at a point. Can’t remember anything about it though.
Your videos on physical media collecting had coincided with my own recent thoughts about the subject. Maybe it’s a generation thing? Going back to the past when there was no VHS tapes. The only way to see a film was to review the radio times listings for a movie and then making an appointment to see it as a live broadcast. Seeing Star Wars at the cinema as a child and waiting years and years to see it again on t.v. Then years later to own it on V.H.S, finally getting the entertainment fix we craved, of watching your favourite movie whenever you desire. Collecting titles on V.H.S and watching them at your leisure was truly liberating. Never again would I have to stay up late on a school night to watch a horror movie or action film and be tired the next day. Never again would I have to wait another year for a repeat T.V showing of Jaws.
Then came DVD with superior quality and tons of new features. My collecting went into overdrive as I could import horror movies that were forbidden in the U.K. I felt a smugness that I had titles like Evil Dead in my collection.
This entertainment access deprived childhood may have programmed a generation to collect titles for the simple reason of being in total control of their viewing pleasure. Something a younger me could only dream about.
I was exactly the same with the imports. Texas chainsaw / clockwork orange. Those possibilities were endless. And as you say, having them for whenever I wanted was a dream.
It’s interesting seeing my kids complete lack of interest in the physical formats because so much is at their fingertips.
Going through doing these videos and considering the collection is making me really think about what I’ve been doing over the years. I’m starting to appreciate the space from clearing out and also the clarity.
Buying less has meant I’ve actually had more time to fully appreciate if I do pick something up. Something that from the bulk ordering in the past I’ve kinda missed out on.
To quote Spock in the Star Trek episode Amok Time "you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing,after all, as wanting"
Exactly that !
Now, what does he say about keeping all the stuff ?
I fell into this when I first started getting 4k Blu-ray’s. I realized I was enjoying buying the movie more than watching it. Now I make sure I will actually watch it before I buy it.
It’s a pretty bad habit isn’t it ?
Im often fuelled by all the posts on social media sites and get sucked into that hype pretty easily. Cutting it down now. Now I’ve taken a step back and looked at what I’d been doing I can see clearly my mistakes.
Obviously I still make the mistakes from time to time but I’m getting better and more thoughtful about what I order
I love physical media but, aside from something super specific or rare, I'm at a point where I will only buy things I come across randomly at thrift stores, usually for $2 or less. It's a lot more rewarding when it feels like you went out of your way to acquire something rather than just clicked on an eBay listing. It's also way easier to part with down the line when you know you didn't spend $50 on it.
With having a fair sized collection. Something I miss is being able to find and discover titles out in the wild.
Think I’d feel better about spending the couple of dollars on a title over the full retail price for a lot.
Only specific titles I should be picking up on release and they should be more considered over that impulse purchase to keep up with the hype train from everyone else
I 100% can relate to this. my backlog of unwatched blurays is over 200 right now. & they don't get put on the shelve until I watch them.
The problem with putting the new arrivals on the shelf is that they kinda just got forgotten about. I’ve done it numerous times.
Where to you store your ‘to watch’ pile ?
@@PhillwithadoubleL movies I've watched are kept vertically on my self, my "to watch" pile is kept in horizontal stacks on the self as a visual aid separate the 2. Even if I've seen the movie 100 times & have owned it before, I still keep it in the watch pile until it is watched.
You can see this in all the videos on my page, my shelfs are behind me & the horizontal stacks in front are my "to watch" pile
While I have slowed past few years, but the online ordering drove my collecting for years. I will still do it a few times this coming spring and summer for sure. I limit myself to only ordering June to August for a few years because my job keeps me away from home for most months. I try to wait as you say and gauge my true feelings.
I’ve slowed way down. I went without certain items a few times (to buy later) but then found that after they were released and the hype died down I no longer felt as strong of an urge. Some things I didn’t even bother picking up as they hit streaming pretty quickly. The viewing before purchasing certainly cut down a lot of unnecessary pick ups.
I now try not to pre order anything. I don’t always manage it but it’s certainly been refreshing to see how many titles I was just not that bothered about.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Yes, I have noticed that if I don't pre-order things I totally lose the urge to buy them when they street, especially if I watch a few unboxings. The FOMO dissipates fast.
For me, the "thrill of the hunt" plays a large role in my collecting habits. Most of my purchases are in secondhand shops where I might find a treasure at a cheap price. Because it doesn't cost much, I find myself willing to blind buy a lot of titles. This has led to me finding some really great titles that I never would have known otherwise, but along the way I have accumulated a lot of mediocre and garbage titles as well. I like the hope of discovering something great.
I don’t get that thrill of the hunt so much anymore. My buying habits have leaned more towards online. Not very often I get to any high street stores anymore… makes me a little sad !
@@PhillwithadoubleL I have appreciated many of your recent videos that explore and raise questions about our buying and collecting habits. Thank you.
@@mark4163 it’s the things that get in my head but the things that not many talk openly about.
I find if you’re part of collecting group it’s like a hive kinda mindset that you must not deviate from.
I like the conversation around things like this. RUclips has given me the ability to vocalise things without being shot straight down ! And honestly, I’m actually finding a few that are thinking or have gone through the same.
Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment 🙏🏼
I quite rarely order films online anymore unless I know the film well… I do a lot of research into every title I pick up now, it never used to be the case and I do try to watch everything I buy as soon as I get it, out of the six titles I’m showing this upcoming Monday, I’ve watched five already plus in the following Monday, I’m not planning any new pick ups at all, so my buying habits have changed over the years… good points well made Phill, take care mate👍😃👍
The only thing I’ve got on pre order online at the moment is the import US release of The Abyss.
I’ve held off everything else. Trying to stick to the idea of picking things up when I’m ready to watch rather than for the sake of having it ready on the shelf.
My clear out videos will be soon. Think it’s gonna be tough. There will be a few stages to it but I’m sure I’ll feel better clearing out the guff and concentrating on the films I love and only when I have time to fully appreciate a release.
I’ll not be able to do many unboxing new release videos that’s for sure 😂
Yeah there is a degree of this with me for sure - I like to think I’m very selective these days but I even find myself looking at eBay / Amazon for the next purchase before I have unwrapped the parcel that has just arrived. It is addictive.
There’s so much effort that goes into seeking that next release. Often I should be focusing on enjoying the content of what I’ve just purchased but then the doom scrolling of the websites begins for that next hit.
You have just described me to a T lol I think I need help with my addiction! 😆
You’re not alone !
I think it describes quite a number of collectors. We all have our ways of collecting but I think there are also a lot of similarities in our habits. Not many speak about the darker side of the collecting hobby / habit.
Great video. I don't order much Blu-ray, dvd, music (UK released )online anymore I probably don't buy any less but mostly stuff is bought in physical stores cex, HMV, independent stores etc where the whole let's see what I can find thing comes into play, the only stuff I tend to still order online is kpop collectors edition albums and a lot of the time you don't see this on the high street any way. While frequency of going to these places is less volume when I do go probably equates it out. Getting stuff as soon as it's released generally I don't seem to care about anymore.
I miss going into stores. It’s one of the thing that’s stings about that ordering online process… there’s nothing in the physical store that I want because I’ve already ordered it. I’m changing what I buy and where I buy to try and recapture the enjoyment of going to these stores to pick things up.
100% see why you’d need to order certain things online. Like the KPop, I’m assuming the market isn’t there for big high street sales. Ordering online is great for things that aren’t quite the “normal” (like the limited edition movies) but I do miss that in store experience.
When it comes to a standalone recent movie I am inclined to seek out a bootleg copy from my local weekend market saving on costs rather than waiting for the regular studio release and putting in holds at my local public library hope that helps you Trevor
I need to check out my local library. No idea what they have in terms of movies.
I only tend to buy bootlegs of the movies I want to own that are gate kept by the streaming services.
I’ll be sure to check in either my local library though. Planning to donate some older titles to them soon if they hold movies.
So I live in the US and yes I have gone to video stores to rent before buying. The in between time when streaming just started is when I would have to take that gamble of buying before viewing because of the hype of a lot of series and movie. Since streaming grew haven't bought blind in years. However adjacent to this topic I have frequently bought not for myself, but for others. Would buy their fav movies to have in case they came over and wanted to watch something more to their liking even if I wasn't really a fan, though some I did enjoy. Since my collection was mostly Horror, sci-fi, Tarantino, Asian, English most would be less interested unless they were friends from the fandoms.
That’s interesting. I’d like to say I haven’t bought for others in terms of having something to enjoy together but when I think back. I perhaps have purchased in the past to enjoy in a group viewing and then just kept the title… hell, I probably still do that now. Not so much for friends coming round for the group viewing but for my kids. Which is silly really. It’s strange watching the kids grow up and how they consume. They don’t care about that physical disc being on the shelf. It’s all about streaming.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I definitely understand for the group setting and have done that as well, just kept it. Eventually culled down and out almost all that stuff just to clear space out get credit for other titles I really want. I feel ya, It happens as you get older I suppose. Less people around. Yeah the way the kids consume is vastly different. Though shining light I've noticed with a few outliers is 1. A few will get out get gifted a movie or series and will go to disc if the weather is bad and internet is lagging to much to take. 2. (Which goes to a previous topic I believe you posted about) the artwork. Some buying the disc with digital combo. Only watch the digital, but keep and display the disc boxed because they love the artwork and other goodies the collector sets come with as like house decor.
I have a big problem with the concept of buying physical copies of movies I've not seen. In the past couple of years I've bought "Streets of Fire" and "The Last Dragon" on DVD because people kept assuring me they were cult classics. They worked out, as did my purchase on Blu-Ray of "Color Out of Space" and "Crimes of the Future" although they were much-anticipated works by directors I felt comfortable buying their work sight unseen. I also picked up a copy of "A Star is Born" on DVD after all the critical acclaim and I believe that only cost me £2.99 or something, but when I watched that with my wife as a treat we'd stored up for a while we were both quite disappointed. That disappointment always sticks in my mind more than loving Willem Dafoe in bonkers leather waders in Streets of Fire or Nicolas Cage going absolutely mental (as per usual) in Color Out of Space. It's a weird reaction, but one I am grateful for as it stays my hand from buying all manner of stuff I may not need or enjoy.
I need your control !
I have pulled back loads now. Think it’s helped me realise how I was spending ‘for the collection’
Now the purchases will be more considered and for the right reasons rather than the all and everything approach that many collectors seem to get trapped in.
Excellent video.
Gotta ask:
*why* have you ended up with 10000s of DVDs?
&
*What* made you become a hoarder?
Would you be able to share?
Many thanks.
Keep sharing.
Stay happy everyone:)
I am planning on sharing more about how it started and what I think caused the habit.
I’m currently researching a couple of bits for the video.
I want to make it the best I can for my basic abilities at the moment because… It’s gonna get personal.
I am guilty of this myself in relation to the items I collect....we have been bread as consumers seeking the next hit. As hard as it may seem to acknowledge, this may all be part of an attempt to fill a void, something missing in one's life.
No void but there are reasons all this began. I’ll be going into it a little further in a future video.
The postman becomes Santa Claus when you get older
He’s getting that way. Fatman in a red suit. He’s just missing a beard !
@@PhillwithadoubleL I love the excitement of waiting for something you want I might have to move soon as my housing is attached to my job all my things are packed it’s killin me not to be able to pull a disc out and watch also I don’t feel comfortable buying at the moment either…..I’m gonna start having withdrawal soon there’s about 10 tv boxsets I want and so many films……..
@@theknight8668 that excitement can get addictive. I was at a stage where the excitement had dropped off for many and a parcel to the door just felt business as usual.
If you can get to your collection… have you thought about iTunes ? It’s honestly saved my sanity a couple of times. I’ve worked away from home for big chunks of time. Having the iTunes digital options was a god send to still be able to access a bunch of titles. Also, using iTunes. If I used an Apple device, many of them still had the extras too.
I know, I know… it’s not as good as physical but I’ve found having the option has been more than worth it for me when I haven’t got that physical accessible.
@@PhillwithadoubleL yeh I understand what your saying and no it isn’t the same I’ve even considered sailing the 7 seas before “re buying digitally” but only for films and stuff I already own on physical but I havnt gotton to that point yet what are your thoughts on AVI or whatever you call it? At some point I may invest in a streaming service of some kind I’m a horror guy so shudder is looking more likely I just love those! In search of darkness documentaries have you seen them?
@@theknight8668 I’ve only ever really purchased digital through iTunes. I haven’t converted onto a hard drive or anything (if that’s what you mean by AVI). I got a bunch digital now and it’s been nice to have that collection to hand… and waiting for offer I’ve grabbed a few of them pretty cheap. Don’t get me wrong. I still prefer to have that physical but the digital has just given me options.
I’ve had shudder before, I’ve found there service ok but they’re a little thin on the ground in terms of quality content. I think a month each year would be enough to burn through what you wanted.
I’ve seen the first In Search of Darkness and half of the 2nd so far. Not gone in for the third one yet (I’m falling behind).
The Eli Roth History of Horror was worth a look too (I’ve only seen the first seasons so far).
After learning the hard way, I try to only buy stuff I will watch twice. Otherwise I will just stream it and save the money for the "next" one.
That’s what I need to adjust my collecting around. Making sure I’m only buying the titles I 100% want to watch again. So many times a purchase has been based purely on nostalgia for the title more than my want of watching again… and then, because it’s limited obviously I HAVE to have it 🙄
Its very easy to get into ordering editions but not actually liking the film . FOMO all in the mind ! Blind buying is not a good habit to get into
I’ve done blind buying for many years. Fully agree that it’s not a good habit.
Thinking back, it was likely more for the excitement of ordering than the actual movie a lot of the time. That thought I could make a discovery that no one else I know has seen or even heard of yet.
@@PhillwithadoubleL yeah not a good way to collect
Am excited to buy the movie or that I have extra money because I got payed...I own rebel without a cause on 4k but I probably just need the DVD. It's a classic but is it really one of my must have movies on 4k?!....
True, I’ve found a few movies I don’t think have really needed or benefitted to a large extent either that 4k upgrade. Trying to read a few reviews before I make that change of formats now. Sometimes it’s just not worth it. Especially if it’s not something you’re viewing again anytime soon if at all.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Right. Still haven't finished watching RWAC.
I have a collection of nintendo switch games and i literally dont play them
Do you keep them all as a collection or are they things you could part with ?
I’ve done pretty well for clearing out the older games. Only have about 3 switch games physically.
The only sticking point I have is my old N64. I’ve not played it for years. Yet when it comes to clearing out. I can’t seem to let it go. Some days I think I’d happily get rid and then other I want to keep it and collect for it again. Only thing with retro gaming for me… when I start playing any retro games I last about 5 mins before I wanna play God Of War or Tears of the Kingdom instead 😂
@@PhillwithadoubleL they’re in a collection. I started getting into game collecting about a year ago, so I went all out on buying Nintendo games. Since Nintendo has a history of just deleting their digital shops. They’re all sealed in the plastic wrap and I just don’t have the energy to play them.
I also can’t get rid of them cuz I invested so much money into it
I see this more in my board game groups. They seem always after the new kickstarter or game. I have left 99% of the board game fb groups/you tube so as not to be tempted. I have a good collection now of games I am happy with and always wanna play so I try to remove that temptation. Films as long as I have a copy of a film I love I am happy, I don't need it to be blu ray or 4k or special ed. I simply want to be able to watch it when I want to! Now when I am out thrifting if I see an upgraded version and it is something I super love and it is very cheap.... ya . I recently got district 9 blu ray for 3.00 okay ya. Starship troopers blu ray at a thrift store for 5.00 okay yes please. I also got the evildead box set brand new 1,2, and all of the show for 47.00 yes way too good to pass up as online it is like 124.00. I also only order online for things I doubt i can find second hand.
I miss being able the thrift like that. The addiction to ordering and collecting these things have made it impossible to find anything new (to me) in the wild.
It’s something I miss doing with friends. I’m slowing way down on the habits of ordering in the hope of reclaiming some of the joy of making those kinds of discoveries for things that I really want over just having them to fill the gap.
You collect in the best way. Thanks for your comment
@@PhillwithadoubleL I bet you would be surprised what you can find. Try hunting near collages. They buy cool stuff but dump so much when they leave for the year.
@@halloweenlady4073 hmmm, I might give that a try. Good advice, thank you 🙏🏼
It's completely normal to feel that way. our tastes change over time so then we have to change our collection accordingly accordingly.
It’s certainly changing. No longer have the desire to try and own (and keep) absolutely everything and anything.
I’ll adjust the collection for myself, and likely share that clear out. Hoping the pressure to keep things from other collectors doesn’t cloud my current mindset !
@@PhillwithadoubleL it's a vicious cycle
@@crackerass69691 it certainly is. It’s one I’ve been kinda trapped in for many years.
I do buy blind every so often, this past Monday I bought used at a pawn shop Green Book which I had only seen clip on instagram, so I picked it up for $2 dollars. Watched it last night and definitely is one of the best movies I’ve seen in a while, I went downstairs and my wife had came home from work, so I told her about the movie and she wanted to watch it, so I watched it again 😂😂. That much I liked that blind buy. Blind buying is a bet, you never know if you are going to like it or not.
Bargain. I think it’s great of you can discover something like that in a Pawn Shop. It’s the risk that you take with a blind buy but nice when it’s paid off and you haven’t risked it with a full priced pre order.
I’ve not actually seen Green Book yet. Sounds like I need to put it on my watchlist.
Will you be keeping it in your collection ?
I’ve been in such a rush to pre order in the past that it’s rare i go into any store to discover anything new or any bargains. I kinda miss it.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I will definitely keep it in my collection. It’s soo god, my wife loves it too and it’s based on a real life musician in the 60’s. Played by Mahershala Ali with Viggo Mortense. The son of the character played by Viggo worked alongside the director.
@@lacriptavideoclub I’ll keep an eye out for it. Although, I’m going to avoid ordering it until I’m ready to watch it or I see it super cheap ! Thanks for the recommendation 🙌🏼
Bro. you are addicted. 😅
Yep, fully realise that now. I couldn’t see it for many years. It’s been a terrible habit.
Time to shake it off and move on.
There’s no need to have so many when there are always so many options to view things now anyway.