Love the comment about double dipping touchless, what a great idea never thought of that for a turbo wash. I tend to use half a lance per application so could prewash with it, then reapply and contact wash it with just a bucket of water for a super speedy wash!
Why I think BH are brilliant products? I used to love spending hour's cleaning the car, and lets be honest it is a physical and tiring process. I had an issue with my heart and need products which do most of the hard work( as i cant anymore) with excellent results, meaning less physical effort from me and BH are the only consistent products I use . Love them.
Hi John, Thank you for the update around Touch On, appreciated. I use this in the winter months to protect my car and the wife’s and in summer months I switch to good old fashioned wax.
Great review again Jon, use the touch on sachets on the wifes car which is about 7 years old so it's more about speed. Just put 30ml sachet in a snow foam bottle, fill with water and apply on the whole car, then rinse with pressure washer. Produces fantastic beading and sheeting. For those doing the maths buying 1L in the 30ml sachets at £1.19 each would be about £39. The 1L bottle is £19.. will be buying the bottle next time.
What's wrong with spending time on a 7 year old car? Looking around generally, most newer cars look as if they haven't been cleaned since driven away from dealership!
Jon, thoughts on still using QD 1:20 as drying aid AFTER using touch on? Likely to interfere? Apply extra little bit of protection and pop? Or just pointless because they do a similar job?
yer i dont think you need to after touch on like the paint dryies so easily and does not need glossing. but perhaps you might like to do it. not saying you cant but perhaps overkill mate.
You’ve converted me to bilt hamber . Used Meguiars in the past but the results with there products are outstanding. My favorite is auto wheels but they are all excellent!!
Really enjoying "catchingup" on your back catalogue of content. Really like your detailed but engaging approach. I feel like when i select an itme you recommend I can expalin why I am making the purchase over other options. Looking forward to the continued catch up.
I use touch-on with the foam lance to coat the caravan after washing. Quick, easy to apply and adds a layer of protection to the panels and plastic windows.
I’ve followed your channel and advice for sometime and all great. I’ve bought a few items from Bilt Hamber recently just waiting to get stuck in. Can I ask, is it necessary to dry the car after a contact wash to then apply Korosol products onto a dry panel? I think not. The Channel I watched then agitated with a damp microfibre cloth! Surely apply whilst car is wet to remove as much dirt / fallout as possible prior to contact wash? Your thoughts please…. Many thanks
no so you can wash the car then rinse it. then spray a spray of korrosol over a panel (this pane can be a bit wet no problem). and then spread it over the panel with your wash mitt. spray one into the wash mitt as well if you like. then do this for all panels. this way the film of korrosol is nice thin but wont run off the car. then rinse dont let it dry. dont spray it on plastic trim or let it run onto trim... let it sit on the pnael for 2-3 minutes and then contact wash it with mitt and/or pressure wash it off. this is a good thing to do prior to clay bar and polish to shrink the fallout and make it easier to remove through claying.
@ that’s great thank you for such a detailed explanation. I’ll let you know how it goes on. May I just ask I have some Gtechniq products, not ceramic. I don’t have the time to use them and no garage. However I was thinking of putting the sealant on, then finish off with BH double speed wax. If you’ve time to reply I’d appreciate your thoughts. Great channel and excellent content 👍
I love BH products, but I agree that I prefer polar seal - it is very good. When I tried the sachet I wasn't blown away. Not clear in this video if this is a new version of touch on
I used the AutoGlym Polar Seal before I started using the sachets of TOUCH-ON and I cannot make my mind up which one I prefer. Might need to do a back to back wash with them and compare the differences in hydrophobicity and durability 👍🏻
i think i read that with AG Polar seal, you use 40ml per application and it should not be used on Glass/windscreen... this BH product can apparently be used everywhere glass/wheels,... so its easier to apply then... and you can use less product, 30 ml is sufficient. i use Touch-less as part of my wash routine, so i think it makes sense to use a product that will complement each other.
@@karlburrows4226 glass is ok, but not windscreen. I might need to give it another go. Last time I used it I felt like it didn't last as long as polar seal
I used Touch On on both my parents cars last summer. Two different people asked my Dad if he had a new car and me if my Mum had a new car! I haven’t tried it on my ceramic coated car, but on their Soft 99 Fusso Coat waxed cars, it looked amazing in my opinion.
I think I saw that Touch On is a once a month product. So what would you use in between washes to keep the car clean and glossy? Just Touchless? Thanks in advance, Lazy Weekend Warrior.
@@ForensicDetailing So as a xcomplete newbie, touchless, then touch on. Next 3 washes, Touchless, then spray with QD as I dry the car? Or can QD be used in a cannon. Can you tell I'm new to this!
So touchless is a strong prewash but you still need to contact wash. So touchless, then wash with Autowash then rinse and dry using the QD as a drying aid. all these products are high concnetration and should be really cheap. for example use about 7ml of autowash in your bucket.
Balls I just bought the “Sachets” for the father in-law. Handy to ration him as he likes to ignore product ratios lol. I’ll be ordering a bottle as very useful reducing costs from £1 a wash to less than 50 pence. Thanks John.
Fear not, the sachets are absolutely excellent. Highly recommended, I've been using them for years and cannot rate them highly enough. For the reason that it leaves such a nice warm glossy glow afterwards. It really give you that wow factor with such little effort 👌 let me know what the 1ltr bottle is like if you get to it before I do.
I first tried this when it came out about 3 years back and didn't think that much of it TBH. Since then I've relied on Bathe or Bathe+ depending on which car is being washed, 2 out of the 3 have a Gyeon Ceramic Coating applied. Bathe+ does a great job on the car that is yet to be coated. Unreal beading from Bathe+
Moving to Australia and having to pay almost double for bilt hamber is a kick in the delicate parts. But i love using touchless, i double down and use it as lubricant along with meguiars shampoo
This really is a speed option for getting some protection applied when you've no time. I'm sure Pete already told you this, but the dilution doesn't matter, it's the speed of impact onto the surface that 'activates' this product, so i do go to the trouble of shoving it in the lance for application. Even on a zero protected vehicle, i get some pretty decent and long lasting beading. I apply it to the entire vehicle, tyres etc, glass as well, so long as you pressure wash it all afterwards, it's all good.
Using a pressure washer for impact makes it practically impossible to avoid glass altogether. Misting on a good rinse off sealant after last rinse is faster than mixing up another solution in foam cannon.
I'd definitely want to apply this via a foam cannon personally, it would out class anything in terms of easy of use/coverage at that point. I just wonder how well it holds up vs gyeon wet coat which still seems to be the gold standard of spray and rinse sealants.
Excited about this as touch on is a great product. On the point about contact washing using touch less, have you tried auto wash in the foam lance? It works pretty well for me with about 10-15ml of shampoo in the lance
Be careful with Auto Wash in the lance. It can clog it up like it does with the sprout bottles. Auto Wash is badly in need of an upgrade. I had it clog up my AG lance so I had to take it apart.
i think you would compare with bath+ more than wet coat perahaps mate. truth is without side by siding them and just comparing price and using them etc you can only guess...
I’m just about to take delivery of a new car. Declined dealer paint protection package. Would love a video where you lay out each stage in protecting/ detailing your car. Best product for each stage (can you mix and match brands?) and advice for ongoing maintenance regime. Also, do you rate Protect X/Lifeshine products? Many thanks in advance.
After just finishing AutoGlym Polar snow foam and polar wash I decided to switch brands to try Bilt Hamber touch less (I bought the 5 litre for £30) after watching your review. I was going to use it the way you said to use it. Once for as it says on the bottle ‘touch less’ and then reapply for a contact wash. But I was going to use the AutoGlym Polar Seal (as I still have some left) But would it be best to use the touch less and touch on without having to use the polar seal? I’m writing this before the end of the video,so apologies if you mention it.
@ForensicDetailing Fantastic video Jon; where can I get those stainless steel shelves you have holding all the product? They would be perfect for my garage workshop!
I have to admit I didn't think this was a shampoo and haven't used it as a shampoo... I use it as a rinse aid only to help drying and adding water beading. Great product but I may now add it to the bucket instead of a spray on after washing the car. Nice that they have a bottle now 😎😎 👍
This product somewhat reminds me of Turtle Wax Hot Wax non foaming shampoo of the 90s. That was a very effective cleaning shampoo that gave a pretty decent waxed finish.
What i don't understand about these low foaming ceramic shampoos is, can you not just add a load of normal shampoo to the bucket and get some foaminess?
Looks decent. I’ve been using Chem Guys Mr Pink lately for foam and clears very well then washing with it after, then Wet Coat. Shiniest results I’ve had for sure.
Something is off as Mr. Pink is a PH Neutral shampoo which means that it has zero cleaning power without agitation in which case is only bringing lubrication to the process. I have it and tried many times and didn’t clean at all unless I added some APC. After trying a lot of their products I can confidently say Chemical Guys products are royal crap, social network mega hyped overpriced relabeled crap to be precise.
Hi, I don’t have touchless but have auto foam. You talked about this at the beginning. Can you see any issues with applying one touch after using auto foam & a 2 bucket wash
Jon, I mixed up a Touchon sachet in my foam cannon over the weekend but didnt end up spaying it? Will it still be good to use a week from now or is it trash?
Personally all i use now is Carbon Collective - Hybrid SIO2 Ceramic Shampoo. Its 20 quid a bottle but it does seem to go a long way. Its cleaning power is a little weak so i find myself covering each panel 4 or 5 wipes. But its beading and "self cleaning" is very good in my opinion. I do 500 to 800 miles per week, every week. And i wash every 2 weeks, at which point its not really dirty. I could almost get away with just Jetwash rinsing the car down.
I've tried a few snowfoams in my time, but I'm always left disappointed by their cleaning power, so I'm now using jennychem maxifoam. I must say wow! A snowfoam that cleans!!! Probably cuz it's a tfr snowfoam? Amazing stuff, tho.......can you review on here, jon? Have you used it? Would you use it?
no mate sorry. seems well priced and worth a shot. But heres a tip Go to A chem website and dig around untill you find there 5 litre citrus offering its 12 quid. get that. its buried away in their site somewhere.
I have, perhaps a stupid question, and this maybe not the place to ask, but I am looking for advice please. I am in my late 60’s and want to start looking after our cars without taking them to the dreaded car wash. My car hasn’t been deep cleaned in a long time and would like to get it to a stage where I can do a weekly wash and get good results. My questions are, what order should I do things in! Do I do the interior first, or the engine bay, should I pre wash, wash, clay bar, machine polish etc. in what order. I am sorry this is a bit long, but if you can point me in the right direction, with information or videos that would be great. That’s if it ever stops raining!!!! Many thanks. Brilliant videos.
Hello from Florida, USA! I'm a Home Detailer like you aspire to be. I watched RUclips videos from Forensic Detailing, The Detail Hunters is excellent, as is Auto Care HQ. I would tackle the exterior first and add protection to your paint, since that's what can get in very poor condition first. Then I'd work on the interior. But first get that paint protected! There are now quite a few spray and rinse auto protectants that make that job much easier than it used to be. I don't know where you live, but if You're in the U.K., Bilt Hamber and Garage Therapy seem to be two very popular brands. Good Luck!
I use touch on as a drying aid, plus as a form of protection in a maintenance wash. Personally I think touch-on is a better product than Gyeon wetcoat and much better value for money! Gyeon probably lasts a little longer.
Jon often uses Surfex to clean the wheels and Korrosol to decontaminate them and remove fallout. It’s a great way to save money and get great results along the way.
Thanks lads. I often compare stuff and go back to bh. I used the magic wheel cleaner and thought it was brilliant vs p@s brake buster. I'll start back with comparison vs BH
@@christurner3656Lot of wheel cleaners use fall out removers for extra kick and power or hydroxides. Fall out remover is expensive so much better to use something like Koch Chemie Greenstar or Surfex as a power APC/degreaser to get rid of most of the crude. By the time your down, there’s very little fall out to remove so you use less of it and get better value for money from it.
Just one question -do you know how these Bilt Hamber products interact with ceramic coated cars? Would the Touch less or touch on interact in a negative way with Crystal Serum Ultra for example?
i think its will just form a layer of protection on top of a coating. historically if you top a coating with a wax you loose the benefits of the coating (self cleaning). But some of the more modern toppers now have self cleaning (touch-on wet coat etc).... very hard to test self cleaning though to know.
Thanks for the reply. I have Exo on top of my coating and do you think the Touch less would have any effect on that, just because it’s a different type of pre wash technology.
No PIR is likely due to you putting 30ml product into the foam lance, and the entire thing gets sprayed on anyway. So if you diluted 300ml or 500ml water, 30ml of product still coats the car assuming you empty the foam bottle. I have a dedicated lance for it and use 1 sachet per car when I do a valet. This litre bottle should bring the cost per wash down if I buy a 30ml measuring cup for it!
Have you tried the product from the 1l bottle? I've read the "how to use" section on BH website and it seems like it's kinda diluted now. They say you should put 30-60ml into 10l of water for bucket application and 30ml per 1l in a trigger sprayer. With sachets I put one in a used 500ml bottle and fill it with water and then add like 70ml of that mix to another 500ml trigger spray bottle and further dilute it for actual usage, so I only use 4 ml for a 500ml bottle and 8 for 1 litre and it works fine. Sorry for my english
I am a Bilt Hamber fanatic and always recommend their products to others. Not so for Touch on though. I just can't see it's value personally. If I have the car clean enough with just a pre wash, I'd use something like Gyeon Wet Coat as a spray and rinse product for the same, if not better end result. If I've got to do a contact wash, then the same applies, as the spray and rinse of a product after using a stronger shampoo won't really add much time to the whole process. Unless there's something that I've missed?
Problem is Gyeon WC is progressively getting more expensive and it is RTU at point of usage making it harder to get value for money. TouchOn as far as a ceramic shampoo goes is average at best but I think that is the issue with instructions and wide range of use for it. As a spray on and rinse off sealant with dirt releasing properties, I think it represents better value for money.
John if you do a test of theses ceramic products try Sam’s detailing ceramic snow foam and duel flex both I’ve found the best in this category the gloss level of Sam’s ceramic snow foam is fantastic
Great information. Interested in trying Sam’s Ceramic snow foam. Currently use Mile Deep Shield, which is great, but pricey. Also interested in Yum’s Foam+
I still have a bunch of sachets. I'd been using Autobrite's Magiseal for a while but have run out and used a Sachet last night. I do think its a better product when used as an end coat "lazymans Wax"
@@ForensicDetailing Ive been using touch less, autowash. Works well, but have to be so careful, no scracthes. I got myself dr beasleys matt paint coating. Just waiting for weather to improve. If you get an opporunity, could you do some videos on matt finishes, Thanks
Literally have koch chemie pw in my basket, very tempted by touch on but didn't want the sachets wanted a bottle and voila, they released a bottle version 😂 will get my order In
Does anyone know how long TouchOn can remain in a mixed state please? Looking to use this as a wheel sealant via a spray bottle but was unsure how leaving it mixed for a period of time would affect the performance (if any!) Thank you.
I wish bilt hamber would do the maths for flow rate of a preasure washer. Ratio in the lance for x litres per hour or minute. That'd make it super easy. No need for a stop watch, bucket, and measuring jug then.
I wonder why there isn't a single review on the larger channels of Supermafrasol ? It exists for years, it is widely used by carwashes, it is dirt cheap and it actually cleans well.
you can do mate yes but it will alter surface characteristics and sit on your coating. some brands may say this is undesirable to their specific coating potentially. reality is it would maintain beadage and perhaps self cleaning.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks, I’m currently using the AG Polar range for the Snowfoam, Wash then Seal. Don’t really fancy going back to the old days of waxing. For me there’s plenty of products that give it the finishing touch just with spray on and blast off since rally the old Turtle Wax in the blue spray which was popular a few years back. I have found too that using these products you aren’t getting the water spots as we have poor water quality. Will brands be now all using ceramic in their products to get folk hooked ?
In your previous video about touch-on, you say you wouldn't use it more than once a month so as not to build up too much product. Is this the case with the new touch-on in the bottle? I'm sorry to hear about your Porsche.
Interesting. Tried to buy 5 litres of Touch Less a couple of weeks ago but they were out of stock. I msgd them and was told that they “hoped” to have it back in stock soon. I grabbed the Auto Foam instead. I’m not bothered tbh as they’re so close imo but I wondered if there’s something in the pipeline wrt Touch Less?
I have no doubt Bilt hamber products are great but when you order directly from them £60 of product and they send you the wrong items by messing up the labelling to say it’s disappointing maybe a understatement then they promise to sort it but don’t I wonder if it’s worth even trying to get it in the first place just my 2 pence
We're very sorry to hear this - sincere apologies, we aim to resolve any issues on the day we find them. Please let me know the order number and date please.
The 30ml sachets are clear and not cloudy. I absolutely like this product, I've been using the sachets for years now. I've stopped using Gyeon wetcoat in favour of this product because I had dark patches as wetcoat clung onto my silver car and left marks that needed to be buffed off with some QD. Touch-on doesn't leave dark marks and dissolves far better in my situation. I actually really enjoy using this product as it leaves a superb glossy glow just like its be ceramic coated which Gyeon wetcoat didn't do. The beadage is very good too on parr with wetcoat. I'm unsure about the strength between the bottled version and the original sachets. I tend to use one sachet in my MJJC with a litre of water and it's perfect. I've been using the old Gyeon wet coat bottle to put a sachet of this product inside and spray round specific areas and let it dwell a little for maximum impact. My only gripe with. Bilt Hamber is their Auto wash, the cleaning power isn't anywhere near as good as Carpro Reset shampoo. That stuff is fantastic at cleaning, second to none IMO. I wish, Bilt Hamber if you're reading this is to improve your Auto wash, it leaves a crystally matt residue/ finish that's not great even after throughly rinsing. The cleaning power or product performance, it doesn't match the rest of Bilt Hambers line up like for like. It doesn't deep clean to get that pure clean like CP reset shampoo does. It just needs more bite to get it to clean better you have to use Surfex HD to get it how I would want it making you use more products and increase cost. Please come up with something that'll dethrone Carpro Reset shampoo and I'll buy that improved version instead. Touch-on in the bottle is next on my list as I've only got two sachets left. Although I would appreciate someone letting me know what the difference is like between the bottled version and the sachets please 🙏
These products are also good for us older ones (I'm 70), so we can still feel good driving a "shiny " car😊
Love the comment about double dipping touchless, what a great idea never thought of that for a turbo wash. I tend to use half a lance per application so could prewash with it, then reapply and contact wash it with just a bucket of water for a super speedy wash!
I only use touch less for prewash. Don't think it's an entirely 'safe' method for contact wash (insufficient surfactant).
You hammer BH products Jon. And rightly so, thanks for introducing us to the brand. Products effectlive as hell
Why I think BH are brilliant products? I used to love spending hour's cleaning the car, and lets be honest it is a physical and tiring process. I had an issue with my heart and need products which do most of the hard work( as i cant anymore) with excellent results, meaning less physical effort from me and BH are the only consistent products I use . Love them.
💪💪💪
I love Bilt Hamber products, excellent results and good value👍 thanks Jon.
Hi John,
Thank you for the update around Touch On, appreciated.
I use this in the winter months to protect my car and the wife’s and in summer months I switch to good old fashioned wax.
Great review again Jon, use the touch on sachets on the wifes car which is about 7 years old so it's more about speed. Just put 30ml sachet in a snow foam bottle, fill with water and apply on the whole car, then rinse with pressure washer. Produces fantastic beading and sheeting. For those doing the maths buying 1L in the 30ml sachets at £1.19 each would be about £39. The 1L bottle is £19.. will be buying the bottle next time.
What's wrong with spending time on a 7 year old car? Looking around generally, most newer cars look as if they haven't been cleaned since driven away from dealership!
I use touch-less and love it but is touch-on better than Gyeon wet coat ?
I’ve used BH since their inception - grade A products. Well done to Peter and his team. 😎👍🏼
Jon, thoughts on still using QD 1:20 as drying aid AFTER using touch on? Likely to interfere? Apply extra little bit of protection and pop? Or just pointless because they do a similar job?
yer i dont think you need to after touch on like the paint dryies so easily and does not need glossing. but perhaps you might like to do it. not saying you cant but perhaps overkill mate.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks Jon 👍 you’re a legend mate.
Great video! Where did you get those stainless bent shelving brackets you have all your products showcased on?? Those are perfect!!
company called display pro in the UK
You’ve converted me to bilt hamber . Used Meguiars in the past but the results with there products are outstanding. My favorite is auto wheels but they are all excellent!!
Great video. Excellent information on a great product. Thank you. 👍🏻
Really enjoying "catchingup" on your back catalogue of content. Really like your detailed but engaging approach. I feel like when i select an itme you recommend I can expalin why I am making the purchase over other options. Looking forward to the continued catch up.
Yea i do the same a s youve said Jon. Touchon on my van and BH Qd on my car. I like both but a bit wary of putting touchon on the car
I use touch-on with the foam lance to coat the caravan after washing. Quick, easy to apply and adds a layer of protection to the panels and plastic windows.
I’ve followed your channel and advice for sometime and all great. I’ve bought a few items from Bilt Hamber recently just waiting to get stuck in. Can I ask, is it necessary to dry the car after a contact wash to then apply Korosol products onto a dry panel? I think not. The Channel I watched then agitated with a damp microfibre cloth! Surely apply whilst car is wet to remove as much dirt / fallout as possible prior to contact wash? Your thoughts please…. Many thanks
no so you can wash the car then rinse it. then spray a spray of korrosol over a panel (this pane can be a bit wet no problem). and then spread it over the panel with your wash mitt. spray one into the wash mitt as well if you like. then do this for all panels. this way the film of korrosol is nice thin but wont run off the car. then rinse dont let it dry. dont spray it on plastic trim or let it run onto trim... let it sit on the pnael for 2-3 minutes and then contact wash it with mitt and/or pressure wash it off. this is a good thing to do prior to clay bar and polish to shrink the fallout and make it easier to remove through claying.
@ that’s great thank you for such a detailed explanation. I’ll let you know how it goes on. May I just ask I have some Gtechniq products, not ceramic. I don’t have the time to use them and no garage. However I was thinking of putting the sealant on, then finish off with BH double speed wax. If you’ve time to reply I’d appreciate your thoughts. Great channel and excellent content 👍
I sometimes use a double application of touchless before a contact wash if the car is particularly dirty. Without doubt it helps
As much I love BH products I think you can’t beat AG Polar Seal/Coat it for spray on rinse off type products for the price and easy of use.
I love BH products, but I agree that I prefer polar seal - it is very good. When I tried the sachet I wasn't blown away. Not clear in this video if this is a new version of touch on
Jon won’t be happy to read this lol
I used the AutoGlym Polar Seal before I started using the sachets of TOUCH-ON and I cannot make my mind up which one I prefer.
Might need to do a back to back wash with them and compare the differences in hydrophobicity and durability 👍🏻
i think i read that with AG Polar seal, you use 40ml per application and it should not be used on Glass/windscreen... this BH product can apparently be used everywhere glass/wheels,... so its easier to apply then... and you can use less product, 30 ml is sufficient. i use Touch-less as part of my wash routine, so i think it makes sense to use a product that will complement each other.
@@karlburrows4226 glass is ok, but not windscreen. I might need to give it another go. Last time I used it I felt like it didn't last as long as polar seal
I used Touch On on both my parents cars last summer. Two different people asked my Dad if he had a new car and me if my Mum had a new car! I haven’t tried it on my ceramic coated car, but on their Soft 99 Fusso Coat waxed cars, it looked amazing in my opinion.
I still have some Bathe+ left, but already bought 10 sachets of Touch-On. Very good to hear they have a big bottle too now.
I'm only about half way through my auto foam so I'm gonna give it a bash with touch-less and see how it goes! Still got some sachets somewhere
I think I saw that Touch On is a once a month product. So what would you use in between washes to keep the car clean and glossy? Just Touchless? Thanks in advance, Lazy Weekend Warrior.
hi mate you can use the bilt hamber QD at 1:9 with DI water as a drying aid and gloss top up
@@ForensicDetailing So as a xcomplete newbie, touchless, then touch on. Next 3 washes, Touchless, then spray with QD as I dry the car? Or can QD be used in a cannon. Can you tell I'm new to this!
So touchless is a strong prewash but you still need to contact wash. So touchless, then wash with Autowash then rinse and dry using the QD as a drying aid. all these products are high concnetration and should be really cheap. for example use about 7ml of autowash in your bucket.
Balls I just bought the “Sachets” for the father in-law. Handy to ration him as he likes to ignore product ratios lol. I’ll be ordering a bottle as very useful reducing costs from £1 a wash to less than 50 pence.
Thanks John.
Fear not, the sachets are absolutely excellent. Highly recommended, I've been using them for years and cannot rate them highly enough. For the reason that it leaves such a nice warm glossy glow afterwards. It really give you that wow factor with such little effort 👌 let me know what the 1ltr bottle is like if you get to it before I do.
It's so expansive here in Australia. Would love to stock their products.
The panic in Johns voice when he realises American children might be listening DONT DRINK IT 😂
I first tried this when it came out about 3 years back and didn't think that much of it TBH. Since then I've relied on Bathe or Bathe+ depending on which car is being washed, 2 out of the 3 have a Gyeon Ceramic Coating applied. Bathe+ does a great job on the car that is yet to be coated. Unreal beading from Bathe+
Moving to Australia and having to pay almost double for bilt hamber is a kick in the delicate parts. But i love using touchless, i double down and use it as lubricant along with meguiars shampoo
This really is a speed option for getting some protection applied when you've no time.
I'm sure Pete already told you this, but the dilution doesn't matter, it's the speed of impact onto the surface that 'activates' this product, so i do go to the trouble of shoving it in the lance for application.
Even on a zero protected vehicle, i get some pretty decent and long lasting beading.
I apply it to the entire vehicle, tyres etc, glass as well, so long as you pressure wash it all afterwards, it's all good.
Using a pressure washer for impact makes it practically impossible to avoid glass altogether. Misting on a good rinse off sealant after last rinse is faster than mixing up another solution in foam cannon.
I'd definitely want to apply this via a foam cannon personally, it would out class anything in terms of easy of use/coverage at that point. I just wonder how well it holds up vs gyeon wet coat which still seems to be the gold standard of spray and rinse sealants.
These kind of products are very handy in the winter 👌
Excited about this as touch on is a great product. On the point about contact washing using touch less, have you tried auto wash in the foam lance? It works pretty well for me with about 10-15ml of shampoo in the lance
yes but I prefer to just save back a bit of touchless in the lance. I find touchless rinses off the car better as well.
@@ForensicDetailing I may try touch less for the contact wash - it definitely does rinse off nice and easy
Be careful with Auto Wash in the lance. It can clog it up like it does with the sprout bottles. Auto Wash is badly in need of an upgrade. I had it clog up my AG lance so I had to take it apart.
How would you rate this over the geon wet coat? Or would you use them both?
i think you would compare with bath+ more than wet coat perahaps mate. truth is without side by siding them and just comparing price and using them etc you can only guess...
I’m just about to take delivery of a new car. Declined dealer paint protection package. Would love a video where you lay out each stage in protecting/ detailing your car. Best product for each stage (can you mix and match brands?) and advice for ongoing maintenance regime. Also, do you rate Protect X/Lifeshine products? Many thanks in advance.
See detailing fundamentals playlist on homepage m8
@@ForensicDetailing thank you so much.
After just finishing AutoGlym Polar snow foam and polar wash I decided to switch brands to try Bilt Hamber touch less (I bought the 5 litre for £30) after watching your review.
I was going to use it the way you said to use it. Once for as it says on the bottle ‘touch less’ and then reapply for a contact wash. But I was going to use the AutoGlym Polar Seal (as I still have some left)
But would it be best to use the touch less and touch on without having to use the polar seal?
I’m writing this before the end of the video,so apologies if you mention it.
Great video Jon! 👍
@ForensicDetailing Fantastic video Jon; where can I get those stainless steel shelves you have holding all the product? They would be perfect for my garage workshop!
display pro mate
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks Jon!
I have to admit I didn't think this was a shampoo and haven't used it as a shampoo... I use it as a rinse aid only to help drying and adding water beading. Great product but I may now add it to the bucket instead of a spray on after washing the car. Nice that they have a bottle now 😎😎
👍
This product somewhat reminds me of Turtle Wax Hot Wax non foaming shampoo of the 90s. That was a very effective cleaning shampoo that gave a pretty decent waxed finish.
Jon, do you think they've made it clear instead of milky colour it will leave less runs on glass?
Not sure m8
Is it ok to use the BH QD on the Touch on?
Ta!
yes m8
What i don't understand about these low foaming ceramic shampoos is, can you not just add a load of normal shampoo to the bucket and get some foaminess?
🤯🤯🤯 going to have to try that
We discussed this. Cationic surfactant will interfere with cationic siloxane
Looks decent. I’ve been using Chem Guys Mr Pink lately for foam and clears very well then washing with it after, then Wet Coat. Shiniest results I’ve had for sure.
Something is off as Mr. Pink is a PH Neutral shampoo which means that it has zero cleaning power without agitation in which case is only bringing lubrication to the process. I have it and tried many times and didn’t clean at all unless I added some APC. After trying a lot of their products I can confidently say Chemical Guys products are royal crap, social network mega hyped overpriced relabeled crap to be precise.
Hi, I don’t have touchless but have auto foam. You talked about this at the beginning. Can you see any issues with applying one touch after using auto foam & a 2 bucket wash
no issues mate just make sure you give the wash chemicals a good power rinse. AF is cationic so clings a bit more than touchless.
Jon, I mixed up a Touchon sachet in my foam cannon over the weekend but didnt end up spaying it? Will it still be good to use a week from now or is it trash?
No problems m8
Thank you very much!
Personally all i use now is Carbon Collective - Hybrid SIO2 Ceramic Shampoo. Its 20 quid a bottle but it does seem to go a long way. Its cleaning power is a little weak so i find myself covering each panel 4 or 5 wipes. But its beading and "self cleaning" is very good in my opinion. I do 500 to 800 miles per week, every week. And i wash every 2 weeks, at which point its not really dirty. I could almost get away with just Jetwash rinsing the car down.
Get on the jennychem maxi mosse far superior and I ain’t endorsed by them. Good caustic cleaner is the answer
I've tried a few snowfoams in my time, but I'm always left disappointed by their cleaning power, so I'm now using jennychem maxifoam. I must say wow! A snowfoam that cleans!!! Probably cuz it's a tfr snowfoam? Amazing stuff, tho.......can you review on here, jon? Have you used it? Would you use it?
Have you never tried Touch-Less? It's incredible how much dirt it shifts.
Hi John,
Are there any reviews on gtechniq citrus foam on your channel?
no mate sorry. seems well priced and worth a shot. But heres a tip Go to A chem website and dig around untill you find there 5 litre citrus offering its 12 quid. get that. its buried away in their site somewhere.
I have, perhaps a stupid question, and this maybe not the place to ask, but I am looking for advice please. I am in my late 60’s and want to start looking after our cars without taking them to the dreaded car wash. My car hasn’t been deep cleaned in a long time and would like to get it to a stage where I can do a weekly wash and get good results. My questions are, what order should I do things in! Do I do the interior first, or the engine bay, should I pre wash, wash, clay bar, machine polish etc. in what order. I am sorry this is a bit long, but if you can point me in the right direction, with information or videos that would be great. That’s if it ever stops raining!!!! Many thanks. Brilliant videos.
See detailing fundamentals playlist on homepage watch all those m8
Hello from Florida, USA! I'm a Home Detailer like you aspire to be. I watched RUclips videos from Forensic Detailing, The Detail Hunters is excellent, as is Auto Care HQ.
I would tackle the exterior first and add protection to your paint, since that's what can get in very poor condition first. Then I'd work on the interior. But first get that paint protected! There are now quite a few spray and rinse auto protectants that make that job much easier than it used to be. I don't know where you live, but if You're in the U.K., Bilt Hamber and Garage Therapy seem to be two very popular brands. Good Luck!
Many thanks both of you. I will follow your recommendations. Thank you.
I use touch on as a drying aid, plus as a form of protection in a maintenance wash. Personally I think touch-on is a better product than Gyeon wetcoat and much better value for money! Gyeon probably lasts a little longer.
So, is the bottle version a different/better version to the pouches?
not sure but the sachets were a bit more milky if I remember correctly.
Hi mate. Like you I love the BH range. Going off what you said about the back bone of your arsenal. Do you still use the BH wheel cleaner ?
i use surfex hd most times to clean the wheels.
Jon often uses Surfex to clean the wheels and Korrosol to decontaminate them and remove fallout. It’s a great way to save money and get great results along the way.
Thanks lads. I often compare stuff and go back to bh. I used the magic wheel cleaner and thought it was brilliant vs p@s brake buster.
I'll start back with comparison vs BH
@@christurner3656Lot of wheel cleaners use fall out removers for extra kick and power or hydroxides. Fall out remover is expensive so much better to use something like Koch Chemie Greenstar or Surfex as a power APC/degreaser to get rid of most of the crude. By the time your down, there’s very little fall out to remove so you use less of it and get better value for money from it.
@kwl189 thanks bud. Everything you say makes sense. Price per wash and convenience is what it's all about .
Can you recommend a good snow foam product for the AVA P60 snow cannon please
Bh touchless mate
@@ForensicDetailing thanks , what ratio to water please
its 2% PIR for the lastest version of touchless mate. that can be roughly 200product to 800 water in lance for most systems.
Bilt Hamber products are always top draw. Thanks for sharing, look a great product 💪
Just one question -do you know how these Bilt Hamber products interact with ceramic coated cars? Would the Touch less or touch on interact in a negative way with Crystal Serum Ultra for example?
i think its will just form a layer of protection on top of a coating. historically if you top a coating with a wax you loose the benefits of the coating (self cleaning). But some of the more modern toppers now have self cleaning (touch-on wet coat etc).... very hard to test self cleaning though to know.
Thanks for the reply. I have Exo on top of my coating and do you think the Touch less would have any effect on that, just because it’s a different type of pre wash technology.
So it is better value for money than Infinity Wax Synergy Boost?
i cant compare value with the other 500 ceramic shampoos on the market my good friend but the price in is there for you to extrapolate
Is there any benefit to using touch on after applying DSW?
A month or so later to keep the zing going but not immediately after m8
More environmentally friendly too and companies are being made to think about this more and more.
James
No PIR is likely due to you putting 30ml product into the foam lance, and the entire thing gets sprayed on anyway. So if you diluted 300ml or 500ml water, 30ml of product still coats the car assuming you empty the foam bottle. I have a dedicated lance for it and use 1 sachet per car when I do a valet. This litre bottle should bring the cost per wash down if I buy a 30ml measuring cup for it!
Have you tried the product from the 1l bottle? I've read the "how to use" section on BH website and it seems like it's kinda diluted now. They say you should put 30-60ml into 10l of water for bucket application and 30ml per 1l in a trigger sprayer. With sachets I put one in a used 500ml bottle and fill it with water and then add like 70ml of that mix to another 500ml trigger spray bottle and further dilute it for actual usage, so I only use 4 ml for a 500ml bottle and 8 for 1 litre and it works fine. Sorry for my english
I am a Bilt Hamber fanatic and always recommend their products to others. Not so for Touch on though. I just can't see it's value personally.
If I have the car clean enough with just a pre wash, I'd use something like Gyeon Wet Coat as a spray and rinse product for the same, if not better end result. If I've got to do a contact wash, then the same applies, as the spray and rinse of a product after using a stronger shampoo won't really add much time to the whole process.
Unless there's something that I've missed?
Problem is Gyeon WC is progressively getting more expensive and it is RTU at point of usage making it harder to get value for money. TouchOn as far as a ceramic shampoo goes is average at best but I think that is the issue with instructions and wide range of use for it. As a spray on and rinse off sealant with dirt releasing properties, I think it represents better value for money.
Informative, entertaining and comedy gold!
Any word on how long this lasts once diluted in a spray bottle? Do you have to use it all within a certain time or anything like that? Cheers.
I'm not sure but most of these products are good for a few years. Bit like detail sprays are..
@@ForensicDetailing smashing mate 👍🏻
John if you do a test of theses ceramic products try Sam’s detailing ceramic snow foam and duel flex both I’ve found the best in this category the gloss level of Sam’s ceramic snow foam is fantastic
Great information. Interested in trying Sam’s Ceramic snow foam. Currently use Mile Deep Shield, which is great, but pricey. Also interested in Yum’s Foam+
Pity the Australian retailers charge 3 times the price after the pound to AUD conversion , more expensive than gold :(
Feed it back m8. Give examples of market average with various premium brands.
Bilt hamber for the winter months and gyeon for the nice weather👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Could you compare to polar seal as its a similar price
can do mate
I still have a bunch of sachets. I'd been using Autobrite's Magiseal for a while but have run out and used a Sachet last night. I do think its a better product when used as an end coat "lazymans Wax"
I think the sachets were a huge packaging waste, the plastic containers are easier to recycle.
John, is it safe on matte finishes?
Id ask bh. It might add gloss. On Matt I tend to just wash and use a matt finish qd or coating.
@@ForensicDetailing Ive been using touch less, autowash. Works well, but have to be so careful, no scracthes. I got myself dr beasleys matt paint coating. Just waiting for weather to improve. If you get an opporunity, could you do some videos on matt finishes, Thanks
Is this similar to Autosmart aqua seal pro?? I’ve been using that and it looks/ works great but once washed again it doesn’t seem to work aswell
not sure mate
Can i use it with fusso coat or F7?
Not test but should work
@ForensicDetailing hi
I see a dutch youtube video about an ik e foam sprayer. 1,5 litre. So with battery
Have you seen this sprayer
Dont leave us hanging Jon..... what's the scratch and shine story 😂
Timely video, I need to order as just running out, touch on not on the site as yet
should appear there today I think mate soonish i think
Thanks John 👊
Do you have an affiliate link to BH so you get some knock back for excellent recommendations?
@@ForensicDetailing ordered, I mentioned you in the notes as a thank you 💛
Literally have koch chemie pw in my basket, very tempted by touch on but didn't want the sachets wanted a bottle and voila, they released a bottle version 😂 will get my order In
Does anyone know how long TouchOn can remain in a mixed state please? Looking to use this as a wheel sealant via a spray bottle but was unsure how leaving it mixed for a period of time would affect the performance (if any!)
Thank you.
I don't know mate but I would guess a couple of years max.
@ForensicDetailing Morning mate, thanks for the reply. I'll give it a whirl and see what happens 👍🏻.
Lagers??? Really??
I wish bilt hamber would do the maths for flow rate of a preasure washer. Ratio in the lance for x litres per hour or minute. That'd make it super easy. No need for a stop watch, bucket, and measuring jug then.
Every single system has different input rate from mains hose and output rate depending on the system and lance
Add 30ml touch-on to a 1L sprayer of water and youll have a fantastic quick detailer like Gyeon WetCoat that'll last forever
I wonder why there isn't a single review on the larger channels of Supermafrasol ? It exists for years, it is widely used by carwashes, it is dirt cheap and it actually cleans well.
never heard of it. But sounds like truckwash mate.
@@ForensicDetailing Do you not have MAFRA in UK ? It's Italian brand, I was under the impression that they sell worldwide
I see bilt hamber. I click like.
Just ordered another 10 sachets😂 Hadn't realised this was available, next time will definitely go for the bottle
Missed gtechniq ceramic wash from the test
ive not done the test yet mate! :)
I can’t help but laugh every time you say “touch on”. I know I’m immature.😂😂
Again! Gotta love BH 😎
BILT Clamber 😂 17:42
So isn’t this a shampoo for using on ceramic coated cars ?
you can do mate yes but it will alter surface characteristics and sit on your coating. some brands may say this is undesirable to their specific coating potentially. reality is it would maintain beadage and perhaps self cleaning.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks, I’m currently using the AG Polar range for the Snowfoam, Wash then Seal. Don’t really fancy going back to the old days of waxing. For me there’s plenty of products that give it the finishing touch just with spray on and blast off since rally the old Turtle Wax in the blue spray which was popular a few years back. I have found too that using these products you aren’t getting the water spots as we have poor water quality.
Will brands be now all using ceramic in their products to get folk hooked ?
In your previous video about touch-on, you say you wouldn't use it more than once a month so as not to build up too much product. Is this the case with the new touch-on in the bottle? I'm sorry to hear about your Porsche.
Yes m8 reapply when the zhizzle has fizzled
Super content as per usual 👍
Interesting.
Tried to buy 5 litres of Touch Less a couple of weeks ago but they were out of stock.
I msgd them and was told that they “hoped” to have it back in stock soon.
I grabbed the Auto Foam instead.
I’m not bothered tbh as they’re so close imo but I wondered if there’s something in the pipeline wrt Touch Less?
Transition to new formula.
I just enjoy watching the water bead off when parked or driving after using ceramic snow foam, 😂
Sat-Chet, where posh, Jon !
New video on Sunday, lovely!
Where are the metal shelves from please?
display pro m8
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks 👍
@@ForensicDetailing Are they the 12cm deep ones please?
show the golf some love
Dont think the website has been updated yet
What do you think is a suitable pir for it through a lance?
Lance about .5 to 1%? About 1 to 10 non pir
I have no doubt Bilt hamber products are great but when you order directly from them £60 of product and they send you the wrong items by messing up the labelling to say it’s disappointing maybe a understatement then they promise to sort it but don’t I wonder if it’s worth even trying to get it in the first place just my 2 pence
We're very sorry to hear this - sincere apologies, we aim to resolve any issues on the day we find them. Please let me know the order number and date please.
hmmm is this the ultimate detail spray ? interesting
To me, chemistry is just words, Jon! 🤷🏻♂️
The 30ml sachets are clear and not cloudy. I absolutely like this product, I've been using the sachets for years now. I've stopped using Gyeon wetcoat in favour of this product because I had dark patches as wetcoat clung onto my silver car and left marks that needed to be buffed off with some QD.
Touch-on doesn't leave dark marks and dissolves far better in my situation. I actually really enjoy using this product as it leaves a superb glossy glow just like its be ceramic coated which Gyeon wetcoat didn't do.
The beadage is very good too on parr with wetcoat. I'm unsure about the strength between the bottled version and the original sachets. I tend to use one sachet in my MJJC with a litre of water and it's perfect. I've been using the old Gyeon wet coat bottle to put a sachet of this product inside and spray round specific areas and let it dwell a little for maximum impact.
My only gripe with. Bilt Hamber is their Auto wash, the cleaning power isn't anywhere near as good as Carpro Reset shampoo. That stuff is fantastic at cleaning, second to none IMO. I wish, Bilt Hamber if you're reading this is to improve your Auto wash, it leaves a crystally matt residue/ finish that's not great even after throughly rinsing.
The cleaning power or product performance, it doesn't match the rest of Bilt Hambers line up like for like. It doesn't deep clean to get that pure clean like CP reset shampoo does. It just needs more bite to get it to clean better you have to use Surfex HD to get it how I would want it making you use more products and increase cost. Please come up with something that'll dethrone Carpro Reset shampoo and I'll buy that improved version instead.
Touch-on in the bottle is next on my list as I've only got two sachets left. Although I would appreciate someone letting me know what the difference is like between the bottled version and the sachets please 🙏
5L of Autosmart AquaSeal Pro from a deal is £45 I use the son my bikes and cars which I find good value for money with a decent bead & shine