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Karate Nerd and Monkey Steals Peach in a crossover. This is better than Batman meeting the Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles! Seriously though, I've followed Jesse's channel for years, good to see you guys meeting up.
Being a Malaysian. I feel blessed to have silat, kung fu, and kalaripayattu resides in the country, with prominent masters in each art. Not to mention several karates and taekwondo.
In a way yes. Shaolin is not really the birthplace of all martial arts nor the source but it is a place where techniques from the different martial arts systems in China, and possibly other countries through the Silk Road, were studied, experimented, refined, improved, practiced, pressure test it, preserve and pass on. That is why The 1928 burning of the Shaolin Temple and the Cultural Revolution " destroyed" most of kung fu.
Will, take a look at a Qing dynasty book called 万年青, it is a novel containing the history of southern Shaolin temple and the 5 elders like Pai Mei, Gee si San sin, Wu Mei, etc
And they destroyed the temple - the modern ones are all there is to go to. People do not grasp the ferocity of chinese feudal history or even more so, that it stretches over 3,000? years? Most think of history as a couple hundred years ago, with a barn or some kind of ruins. It is vanity to see the govt restored temple and say it is neater than the houses today....little was left of it but the gates and foundations with some chamber areas - the styles and history are what matter. I do not know why or get everything that was told to me, but I pass it on just like it was to me the best i can. Thats my job so it is a continuity of history....even on the western continent
Claims? I am proud of my claim even if it comes off the smoking of war in china. My master's teacher went from China to taipae, where master learned and master Don Miller was an army brat who eventually moved to the USA and taught 40 years here. You don't evaluate whether something is significant or not, time decides the value, longevity and destiny of it all. I'm so glad kung fu happened to me in 1977 and been a leg my whole life. I'm retiring to teach, to keep my own health up. I had no idea at 13 the real distinctions or differences, I revered it all. Master taught Hun gar and wing chun, before it had any branch outs or variances. I accept the addition of the short staff to wing chun even though it is a very new addition. People should consider that when times frighten them, prayer temples and kung fu schools pop up everywhere.....and then the reason they did happens. Best wishes
Where's the next episode? I heard that those masters from all over the world return to southern shaolin to teach and sort of like giving it back to them as much had been lost due to cultural revolution and wars.
All episodes are up on my patreon, will be releasing one per week here. As I mentioned there are 3 southern temples, all recently built. Each one has invited teachers from around Fujian, Taiwan and Malaysia to come “bring the arts back”. This temple in Quanzhou seemed to focus on Wuzu Quan, which is the main style practiced in the surrounding area.
Hii.. plz have a visit to Master YAP BOH HEONG who's settled in Malaysia & Teaches DATUK CHEEK KIM THONG LINEAGE, 5 Ancestors Fist & Rare Art of WU MEI
Did one of the southern temples go bankrupt? there used to be four of them a few years ago (Quanzhou, Putian, Xianyou, Fuqing). I know a number of them weren't doing well financially, only the Quanzhou one was getting many people coming to it.
No idea, Quanzhou temple didn’t even require an entrance ticket, and it was pretty empty... so I doubt it’s doing well. Yong Chun county is now planning to build a Shaolin too.
Are there any forms that are practiced both in northern and southern shaolin? Also, what do the southern monks think of the northern temple ? I just read there was a bit of argument between the abbots of the respective temples
Didnt talk to any enough to really ask stuff like that. Also, no I dont believe there are any forms practiced in both. There are shared names, like Luohan, Taizu etc but they have absolutely nothing in common.
Will you ever revisit/reventure the topics (kungfu styles) you have already covered in your channel? More videos on northern shaolin (the less popular styles like duan da, kanjia quan, fo han zhang and master hu's stuff also) would be awesome😅💚
Yes definitely! Both Henan and Fujian have so much there I’ve barely scratched the surface. Will be making trips back to go deeper at both places for sure
Aside from their Buddhism in common, the styles were largely influenced by their environments (i.e. where they’d be used). In the more cramped confines of cities in the South, the movements needed to be more confined. In the more wide open spaces farther in the North, there was more room for big movements. This is one theory, anyway.
Watching that karate dude try to mimic the shaolin strike was amusing, karate really does screw up any chance at cross training, it’s just so yang and rigid. The inside of that temple is breathtaking in my opinion and if you put together a mix up of all your temple footage and put a good sound track on it, I would watch it over and over. Thanks for this channel, I’m co-publisher of Mastery Journal Magazine and have been a long time student of internal arts from Asia and your knowledge is really impressive, and especially for your age. I’ll be subbing for sure.
pan peter Peter, I train with ex-karate guys and their footwork is all the same! They have to train very hard to remove the karate habits and many never do completely even though they try. Look at the MMA.
Thank You! Meir Shahar seems to indicate evidence shows it wasn’t the Qing but rather jealous bandits who burned down the temple. They were a wealthy oasis in the largest yet one of the poorest provinces. Please ask them the one question no one has yet to answer - what person, period, style, area, era did Sanzhan / Sam Chien come from?? Everyone does it, but, what genius introduced it?!
My very uninformed guess would be, that it comes either from a Taizu/Wuzu style in the Zhangzhou/Quanzhou area or from a white crane style. As these two were so commonly practiced and had such a big influence on the martial arts of the region. But I don't think it could actually be traced to one "inventor".
Many of the southern styles seem to have a routine with "3" in the name. Obviously you know about Crane and WuZu with Sam Chien, but also Hakka Mantis has 3 Step Arrow, Bak Mei has 3 Gates 8 Directions, and there's even an old version of Wing Chun with a routine called 3 Salutes to Buddha. It should be possible to do what biologists call a cladistic analysis by disregarding the received history and looking only at the techniques themselves. That could give you a family tree with clues to the original version of San Chin. With all the cross pollination going on in the south, if there was any truth to the story of the southern temple, then there would be a lot more similarities to the northern styles.
@@ambulocetusnatans Bakmei Saam Mun Baat Gwaa (三門八卦) is a form totally unrelated to Sanzhan. However, there are two form similar to Sanzhan in the style. Zik Bou Kyun (直步拳) is the first form, but the real heart of the style - in the way Sanzhan often is - is the Nine Step Push, Gau Bou Teoi (九步推).
@@MonkeyStealsPeach No just look on RUclips for "Kung Fu San Soo" Jimmy Woo. It was a chinese who came to the US in the 60ies and teached a family triad style from southern china. Strange that you never heard of him.
Well most of my focus has been on stuff within China, so Im not really familiar with stuff in the US. Judging by the name it sounds like something modern. So if it was a triad style, it would have been known by a different name
@@MonkeyStealsPeach San soo is the Cantonese version of the word and San Shou can also be used as freestyle boxing every traditional system has a way of showing it where u can come at ur teacher with any movement and he’ll show u from different forms he would Handel it but it’s also just chinese kick boxing
China is a huge country with over 5000 years of history..why is it so hard to think that there would be a southern shaolin temple?? And also Wudang mountain was another kung fu stronghold just as famous..I don't get the close mindedness in the current generation of Google experts.
Im not convinced there was an “official” southern Shaolin temple in the past, I think its most likely some kind of academy or barracks were set up where Shaolin monks from the north stayed while serving in the military. Either that or a revolutionary group named themselves Shaolin with no affiliation to the temple. Watch the interview with Zhang Xiao Feng to hear his take on it
Southern Shaolin Monastery don't exist. The Southern Shaolin Monastery is considered to be a construct of fiction and folklore. Shi Yongxin, the abbot of the Shaolin Monastery has said "In all the records of the Shaolin Monastery, I have never seen the words "Southern Shaolin"
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Karate Nerd and Monkey Steals Peach in a crossover. This is better than Batman meeting the Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles! Seriously though, I've followed Jesse's channel for years, good to see you guys meeting up.
Haha, glad you enjoyed watching it as much as we did filming it!
thank you!💗
Being a Malaysian. I feel blessed to have silat, kung fu, and kalaripayattu resides in the country, with prominent masters in each art. Not to mention several karates and taekwondo.
Malaysia Boleh !
Malaysia boleh! Me2
Thank you so much for sharing this series on Southern styles of Kung fu. A great deal of my material is from these systems. Many thanks!
Yes! Awesome, been waiting for this series for a while now, looking forward to the other episodes!
Keep the awesome content coming dude :)
Grandmaster hop gar lama Kung fu big fan vary pond looks great 👍
cool video glad you started collabing with jeese
Thanks. Was great fun working with him and learnt a lot.
The karate nerd brought me here. Cool channel! I just subscribed😎🙏🥋
Other way around for me.
So, the quote, "World's martial Arts Originates from Shaolin" is quite true.
In a way yes. Shaolin is not really the birthplace of all martial arts nor the source but it is a place where techniques from the different martial arts systems in China, and possibly other countries through the Silk Road, were studied, experimented, refined, improved, practiced, pressure test it, preserve and pass on. That is why The 1928 burning of the Shaolin Temple and the Cultural Revolution " destroyed" most of kung fu.
Will, take a look at a Qing dynasty book called 万年青, it is a novel containing the history of southern Shaolin temple and the 5 elders like Pai Mei, Gee si San sin, Wu Mei, etc
And they destroyed the temple - the modern ones are all there is to go to. People do not grasp the ferocity of chinese feudal history or even more so, that it stretches over 3,000? years? Most think of history as a couple hundred years ago, with a barn or some kind of ruins. It is vanity to see the govt restored temple and say it is neater than the houses today....little was left of it but the gates and foundations with some chamber areas - the styles and history are what matter. I do not know why or get everything that was told to me, but I pass it on just like it was to me the best i can. Thats my job so it is a continuity of history....even on the western continent
Awesome episode
Why are you apologizing my gawd I love this ❤
Claims? I am proud of my claim even if it comes off the smoking of war in china. My master's teacher went from China to taipae, where master learned and master Don Miller was an army brat who eventually moved to the USA and taught 40 years here. You don't evaluate whether something is significant or not, time decides the value, longevity and destiny of it all. I'm so glad kung fu happened to me in 1977 and been a leg my whole life. I'm retiring to teach, to keep my own health up. I had no idea at 13 the real distinctions or differences, I revered it all. Master taught Hun gar and wing chun, before it had any branch outs or variances. I accept the addition of the short staff to wing chun even though it is a very new addition. People should consider that when times frighten them, prayer temples and kung fu schools pop up everywhere.....and then the reason they did happens. Best wishes
Great music - gives the video an almost Enter The Dragon vibe!
Love this!
hi, thank you for show the shaolin south temple.
Where's the next episode? I heard that those masters from all over the world return to southern shaolin to teach and sort of like giving it back to them as much had been lost due to cultural revolution and wars.
All episodes are up on my patreon, will be releasing one per week here.
As I mentioned there are 3 southern temples, all recently built. Each one has invited teachers from around Fujian, Taiwan and Malaysia to come “bring the arts back”. This temple in Quanzhou seemed to focus on Wuzu Quan, which is the main style practiced in the surrounding area.
Penang!
Will check out if you have any Hakka related Martial arts like the Chu gar gao, white eyebrown and the Hakka Hung gar
Maybe this year or next!
Yes, Penang people speak the Fujian dialect...
I loved this! 😃👊
Hii.. plz have a visit to Master YAP BOH HEONG who's settled in Malaysia & Teaches DATUK CHEEK KIM THONG LINEAGE, 5 Ancestors Fist & Rare Art of WU MEI
Que honra está em um lugar assim 🐲
Southhern Shaolin Temple had been burnt by Qing Dynasty Government.
Now Southern Shaolin Temple has rebuild again recent years.
Is this temple a secret place
No. It's right on the side of Quanzhou city. Can take a taxi from the city centre in about ten minutes.
Did one of the southern temples go bankrupt? there used to be four of them a few years ago (Quanzhou, Putian, Xianyou, Fuqing). I know a number of them weren't doing well financially, only the Quanzhou one was getting many people coming to it.
No idea, Quanzhou temple didn’t even require an entrance ticket, and it was pretty empty... so I doubt it’s doing well.
Yong Chun county is now planning to build a Shaolin too.
Are there any forms that are practiced both in northern and southern shaolin? Also, what do the southern monks think of the northern temple ? I just read there was a bit of argument between the abbots of the respective temples
Didnt talk to any enough to really ask stuff like that. Also, no I dont believe there are any forms practiced in both. There are shared names, like Luohan, Taizu etc but they have absolutely nothing in common.
Will you ever revisit/reventure the topics (kungfu styles) you have already covered in your channel? More videos on northern shaolin (the less popular styles like duan da, kanjia quan, fo han zhang and master hu's stuff also) would be awesome😅💚
Yes definitely! Both Henan and Fujian have so much there I’ve barely scratched the surface. Will be making trips back to go deeper at both places for sure
Aside from their Buddhism in common, the styles were largely influenced by their environments (i.e. where they’d be used). In the more cramped confines of cities in the South, the movements needed to be more confined. In the more wide open spaces farther in the North, there was more room for big movements. This is one theory, anyway.
Watching that karate dude try to mimic the shaolin strike was amusing, karate really does screw up any chance at cross training, it’s just so yang and rigid.
The inside of that temple is breathtaking in my opinion and if you put together a mix up of all your temple footage and put a good sound track on it, I would watch it over and over.
Thanks for this channel, I’m co-publisher of Mastery Journal Magazine and have been a long time student of internal arts from Asia and your knowledge is really impressive, and especially for your age. I’ll be subbing for sure.
Glad you are enjoying it!
pan peter
Peter,
I train with ex-karate guys and their footwork is all the same! They have to train very hard to remove the karate habits and many never do completely even though they try. Look at the MMA.
did they practice xinyiba ?
No, Xinyiba is north China
I think Wing Chun is in southern Shaolin temple
Thank You! Meir Shahar seems to indicate evidence shows it wasn’t the Qing but rather jealous bandits who burned down the temple. They were a wealthy oasis in the largest yet one of the poorest provinces.
Please ask them the one question no one has yet to answer - what person, period, style, area, era did Sanzhan / Sam Chien come from?? Everyone does it, but, what genius introduced it?!
He’s referring to the temple in Henan though.
Nobody seemed to know the origin of Sanzhan unfortunately.
My very uninformed guess would be, that it comes either from a Taizu/Wuzu style in the Zhangzhou/Quanzhou area or from a white crane style. As these two were so commonly practiced and had such a big influence on the martial arts of the region. But I don't think it could actually be traced to one "inventor".
Id agree on that. Taizu is probably the oldest style regionally, and probably Luohan maybe too
Many of the southern styles seem to have a routine with "3" in the name. Obviously you know about Crane and WuZu with Sam Chien, but also Hakka Mantis has 3 Step Arrow, Bak Mei has 3 Gates 8 Directions, and there's even an old version of Wing Chun with a routine called 3 Salutes to Buddha. It should be possible to do what biologists call a cladistic analysis by disregarding the received history and looking only at the techniques themselves. That could give you a family tree with clues to the original version of San Chin. With all the cross pollination going on in the south, if there was any truth to the story of the southern temple, then there would be a lot more similarities to the northern styles.
@@ambulocetusnatans Bakmei Saam Mun Baat Gwaa (三門八卦) is a form totally unrelated to Sanzhan. However, there are two form similar to Sanzhan in the style. Zik Bou Kyun (直步拳) is the first form, but the real heart of the style - in the way Sanzhan often is - is the Nine Step Push, Gau Bou Teoi (九步推).
Interesting! I think Kung Fu San Soo is also a southern triad style.
I think you’re misspelling San Shou, which is just kickboxing
@@MonkeyStealsPeach No just look on RUclips for "Kung Fu San Soo" Jimmy Woo. It was a chinese who came to the US in the 60ies and teached a family triad style from southern china. Strange that you never heard of him.
Well most of my focus has been on stuff within China, so Im not really familiar with stuff in the US. Judging by the name it sounds like something modern. So if it was a triad style, it would have been known by a different name
@石虎龙Ryan All I know is that it was his family style and his familiy belongs to a triad. Your podcast where?
@@MonkeyStealsPeach San soo is the Cantonese version of the word and San Shou can also be used as freestyle boxing every traditional system has a way of showing it where u can come at ur teacher with any movement and he’ll show u from different forms he would Handel it but it’s also just chinese kick boxing
China is a huge country with over 5000 years of history..why is it so hard to think that there would be a southern shaolin temple?? And also Wudang mountain was another kung fu stronghold just as famous..I don't get the close mindedness in the current generation of Google experts.
Im not convinced there was an “official” southern Shaolin temple in the past, I think its most likely some kind of academy or barracks were set up where Shaolin monks from the north stayed while serving in the military. Either that or a revolutionary group named themselves Shaolin with no affiliation to the temple. Watch the interview with Zhang Xiao Feng to hear his take on it
hmmm........so the Triads are good people if they are from the old school of Shaolin and Five Ancestor Kung Fu????? @11:39
No... Who told you shaolin are good people ? ^^
@@happylobsterpatatas watch the video, dude..........
@@munchichi8 Did it tell you Shaolin are good people ? No. ;)
@@happylobsterpatatas they are
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How is it a karate nerd can't even pronounce "kara" "te" empty hand correctly?
Southern Shaolin Monastery don't exist. The Southern Shaolin Monastery is considered to be a construct of fiction and folklore. Shi Yongxin, the abbot of the Shaolin Monastery has said "In all the records of the Shaolin Monastery, I have never seen the words "Southern Shaolin"
Watch my full documentary on it, I explain in detail exactly what you said. This is more an informal vlog
2nd!
1st!
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So you and Jesse are going to spar, right? Get Ramsey Dewey to referee.
Only for Pay Per View!
Rarely Seen Southern Shaolin Temple !?!?! - Ha-ha-ha... This fake "Temple" was build 1997
Yes, we all know this. It´s even mentionned in the video.
What about the current BS where people try to say Africans brought kung fu to the Chinese???lmao
Or that Kung Fu is from India... that one annoys me
@@MonkeyStealsPeach ye even though it's annoying you.. All Asian martial arts roots are in India..
@@shivamamilla8789 no they do not 🤦🏽♂️