So something I noticed, you said on the stock 122/118 rated tire that 121 was the dually load rating and 118 was the single wheel rating. My understanding is that it was the other way around, where the dually rating was the lower of the 2 to create a little safety margin in case you lose a tire.
i just bought vision arc 20x10s on nitto 420s and pulled my 5300 lb camper with about 200lbs in bed and 4 passangers just fine ......its all about that tongue weight
@@stuartsmith3359 depends on your towing and such. The 420s lasted 30k towing and other fun stuff in western nc and Wisconsin commutes But they where on a ram 1500
I learned the hard way. Aftermarket wheels work when towing a trailer but crack when towing a 12k 5th wheel. No one talks about it. Load rating is not the issue as much as the build. I wish it wasn’t true but my experience stuck on the road replacing wheels I have no choice to go back to OEM
I made that mistake with my 2001 ram 2500 diesel it's an extra cab with 8 foot bed I have a fiberglass cap that raises a little bit by the back window forget the makers name use it for work put a lot of tools in back I was low on money through a cheap set of tires on and big mistake the truck is so heavy the tires when I turned actually felt like the tires were folding or rolling because they couldn't handle the weight of the vehicle when I was on the highway the truck would sway I really didn't have the money so I found a pair of used but really good condition tires that are a 10 ply heavy duty and instantly the difference from the heavy-duty tires the truck drove so much better tires really do make a difference two things I will never cheap out on tires and Brakes
Also , when going from a P rated to an LT rated , you have to go up about 10 PSI for the SAME tire size to hold the SAME load ... That's right .. LT tires need about 10 lbs more than P rated tires even though LT is stronger. That max load index rating says what the tire can carry at max pressure. The Load inflation tables are the way to go for this stuff. There are online PSI calculations too. Most vehicles will actually be running 44 PSI + that normally ran 35 PSI with the factory (usually) non LT tires.
I had 114 load index on my 2000 f250 federal courages or however it is spelt and every single one separated and bubbled went with Achilles desert Hawks dude at the tire shop was like oh these are 10 ply blah blah blah blah better tires blah blah bought them they all started doing it it again separating and bubbling. I had no idea about load index " apparently neither did tire works" did some research found you guys went with the ridge grapplers with a taller side wall no problems " so far" 🤞 I have a ladder rack ladders and tools it is my everyday driving work truck town a trailer with ACs every once in a while thank God for your videos guys I would have never know! Keep up the good work!
Would you recommend being worried about the load index for a truck that won't be towing everyday or very common really but when it does tow it's towing some pretty heavy cargo a lot more then you'd think it could but it's not going to be traveling long distances
Now, how about the load of that rim can handle now. That offset kills load too. Why large offsets and towing eats seals, bearings, and so on. Why im looking old school. The old "cop" steel rims 17-18in with little offset and a large rating tire. More weight capacity over the stocks i have.
funny how like one a video or two ago you guys posted, I was talking to someone about some Toyos and how there were two listings of the "same" tire and I was explaining the differences in load index *Sorry it was Trailblades
How does load index correlate to ride quality? Looking to upsize my Wranglers factory wheels and tires, but want to keep a factory or better ride. So many "offroad" oversized tires have a high load index, I don't want to buy something I'll be unhappy with in terms of ride quality etc.
Hey cstishenko, you can send an email to info@customoffsets.com and they should be able to help answer your question and go into more detail about how that works. We also have a video of it here! ruclips.net/video/P-FB39AmMJQ/видео.html
i should put this on the lets get lippy vid but i have a question on on offsets..thinking of putting an lift on my 11'tacoma 3-4in..will do a little offroading..hunting fishing caming down backroads but when it come to lips on wheels is there a reason someome would not want a negative offset over a positive off set??will this change the integrate of the wheel??i like the fuel hostage or mavricks in the -12/-24 offset..im on pavement 80%of the time..just tp some it up when is it good to run a -offset over a +offset..whats the positive and negatives of both??thanks..just found this channel about a month ago and find it really informative..keep it up..and show more yota's will ya..👍👍
Patrick, ideally for offroading you're going to want 0 offset, positive/negative offset will make your wheelbearing suffer if you're offroading all the time. But if you're doing it lightly, you can run negative offset!
Is that ridge a 33 or 35? Sry if i missed it but i domt think he mentioned that in this video.. I want to go 22s and 35s on my new ram but i wamt more sidewall than the wheel on this video
Here I am, towing 10k lbs on stretched nitto 420v’s with zero issues.. literally that ridge grappler would have zero issues pulling a skid steer daily.
Hankook Dynapro ATM's are a stellar all around tire Jeffery, great in rain, snow sunny and 90. And last a long time! Do great out in the field as well!
I don't know if you guys do this but could y'all talk about if you go with a decent size lift and bigger tires (example 4 inch lift with 33's) would you have to upgrade the brakes and rotors?.....Thanks!
As long as it surpasses the weight of the truck and you're not planning on hauling. It'll be fine. If you're going to be hauling heavy it's the best idea to get the appropriate tire load index for hauling safely!
How do you tell the load index or its equivalent for the wheels? I've found info about tires plenty of places but I can't seem to find it for the wheels.
If you're ever involved in an accident with one, make sure you take note of the tire size. You can claim that you were involved in an accident with an unsafe vehicle, which puts some responsibility on the owner of that vehicle AND THE SHOP THAT INSTALLED them. You could become part owner of the shop. Even if the shop had the owner sign a waiver, signing a waiver will NOT stand up in court.
this is what cracks me up about guy that i have come in to home depot and get a whole 3500 pound pallet of concrete in their 1500 and tell me itll be alright
Acknowledging that you know that the truck cannot hold the weight puts you in direct legal responsibility. I always refuse to willfully overload a customer's vehicles. And signing a waiver will NOT stand up in court.
I swear I can never get enough information from you guys. And Shawn explains it in a way that I wanna hear it anyhow. Thanks guys!
Billy Plut that means a lot! Thank you for your support! - Shawn
So something I noticed, you said on the stock 122/118 rated tire that 121 was the dually load rating and 118 was the single wheel rating. My understanding is that it was the other way around, where the dually rating was the lower of the 2 to create a little safety margin in case you lose a tire.
Agreed.
Backwards. The dual tire rating is less than single.
121-single 118 dually on each tire and the following letter is speed rating
Riced out chevy “To do duramaxy things”. I Literally LOL’d.
God damnit, I could watch this over and over again. Great info Shawn and thanks for explaining it in a humorous way.
Tires shops here in the Memphis area will not put anything under 121 on 2500 hd trucks. You might want to check into that more. It may be a liability.
i just bought vision arc 20x10s on nitto 420s and pulled my 5300 lb camper with about 200lbs in bed and 4 passangers just fine ......its all about that tongue weight
Yeah? I accidentally got p tires instead of LT tires for my 2500hd and im worried i need to buy new tires. Will p tires hold up?
@@stuartsmith3359 depends on your towing and such.
The 420s lasted 30k towing and other fun stuff in western nc and Wisconsin commutes
But they where on a ram 1500
I learned the hard way. Aftermarket wheels work when towing a trailer but crack when towing a 12k 5th wheel. No one talks about it. Load rating is not the issue as much as the build. I wish it wasn’t true but my experience stuck on the road replacing wheels I have no choice to go back to OEM
I made that mistake with my 2001 ram 2500 diesel it's an extra cab with 8 foot bed I have a fiberglass cap that raises a little bit by the back window forget the makers name use it for work put a lot of tools in back I was low on money through a cheap set of tires on and big mistake the truck is so heavy the tires when I turned actually felt like the tires were folding or rolling because they couldn't handle the weight of the vehicle when I was on the highway the truck would sway I really didn't have the money so I found a pair of used but really good condition tires that are a 10 ply heavy duty and instantly the difference from the heavy-duty tires the truck drove so much better tires really do make a difference two things I will never cheap out on tires and Brakes
I would also add that the rim itself have a load rating too
where can we find the load rating of the rim
@@rameshmantha1015 It does not exist.
Also , when going from a P rated to an LT rated , you have to go up about 10 PSI for the SAME tire size to hold the SAME load ... That's right .. LT tires need about 10 lbs more than P rated tires even though LT is stronger. That max load index rating says what the tire can carry at max pressure.
The Load inflation tables are the way to go for this stuff. There are online PSI calculations too. Most vehicles will actually be running 44 PSI + that normally ran 35 PSI with the factory (usually) non LT tires.
I had 114 load index on my 2000 f250 federal courages or however it is spelt and every single one separated and bubbled went with Achilles desert Hawks dude at the tire shop was like oh these are 10 ply blah blah blah blah better tires blah blah bought them they all started doing it it again separating and bubbling. I had no idea about load index " apparently neither did tire works" did some research found you guys went with the ridge grapplers with a taller side wall no problems " so far" 🤞 I have a ladder rack ladders and tools it is my everyday driving work truck town a trailer with ACs every once in a while thank God for your videos guys I would have never know! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Chris!
That truck owner probably won't air down for any reason, but how do shorter walls and 80 psi handle air down? Thx
35 r20 Toyo MT 125q load F 3640lbs @80psi
So then what would be a good tire that could take more load but still look badass
All depends on your setup you want to run Chris. Check our store out, we list load index on every tire!
Around the shop with flip flips!
I'm glad to see someone still wears docs
Would you recommend being worried about the load index for a truck that won't be towing everyday or very common really but when it does tow it's towing some pretty heavy cargo a lot more then you'd think it could but it's not going to be traveling long distances
It'd really depend. People do it, but if its alot more then recommended, you're at your own mercy Krypticate
Love your videos and hope that someday I'll have my truck looking like the ones in your videos
Now, how about the load of that rim can handle now. That offset kills load too. Why large offsets and towing eats seals, bearings, and so on. Why im looking old school. The old "cop" steel rims 17-18in with little offset and a large rating tire. More weight capacity over the stocks i have.
Does a higher load rating (F vs E) equal longer lifespan of a tire or just more towing capability?
More towing capacity!
@@CustomOffsetsTV okay, really appreciate the quick response!
funny how like one a video or two ago you guys posted, I was talking to someone about some Toyos and how there were two listings of the "same" tire and I was explaining the differences in load index
*Sorry it was Trailblades
Will the ride be a lot rougher unloaded with a 12ply going from a 10 ply.
Great info as usual. Thanks for posting .
Do I need an e rated tire for off roading or will a c rated tire suffice ? Thanks for this video btw
Y'all should do a review of 22x10 forces
david cox stay tuned!! Hot N New coming soon on this bad boy!
What's the specs on those American Force wheels and what size are tires?
Check the specs out here Brad!- bit.ly/2tkEUmH
Custom Offsets Thank You! Keep up the great videos!
I just reviewed the LOAD Rating on the WHEEL by Black Rhino, and was like . . . huh (then referenced this video) Thanks guys
I have learned so much from you guys. Great work. I will buy through yall.
Is that safe to run the 114 on a 3/4ton? I’m sure if you’re not pulling heavy it won’t really matter right?
We don’t recommend running load ratings lower than recommended.
How does load index correlate to ride quality? Looking to upsize my Wranglers factory wheels and tires, but want to keep a factory or better ride.
So many "offroad" oversized tires have a high load index, I don't want to buy something I'll be unhappy with in terms of ride quality etc.
Hey cstishenko, you can send an email to info@customoffsets.com and they should be able to help answer your question and go into more detail about how that works. We also have a video of it here!
ruclips.net/video/P-FB39AmMJQ/видео.html
@@CustomOffsetsTV care to direct me to the link? I've viewed a bunch of your stuff now
I got some trail blazers xt and I'm going habd to get them reblance bc it shakes bad
Respond to our last email Logan, we can help you out!
i should put this on the lets get lippy vid but i have a question on on offsets..thinking of putting an lift on my 11'tacoma 3-4in..will do a little offroading..hunting fishing caming down backroads but when it come to lips on wheels is there a reason someome would not want a negative offset over a positive off set??will this change the integrate of the wheel??i like the fuel hostage or mavricks in the -12/-24 offset..im on pavement 80%of the time..just tp some it up when is it good to run a -offset over a +offset..whats the positive and negatives of both??thanks..just found this channel about a month ago and find it really informative..keep it up..and show more yota's will ya..👍👍
Patrick, ideally for offroading you're going to want 0 offset, positive/negative offset will make your wheelbearing suffer if you're offroading all the time. But if you're doing it lightly, you can run negative offset!
Sidewall sidewall sidewall
customoffset I have a question, u still sale mazzi hulk wheels? I have 22x12,on my Titan and 1 of the wheel is bad
Is it just me or is the new tire smaller than stock?
32.5" stock, new is 33, just the angle
Looks like the stock tire is sitting on a 20" rim and the new tire is on 22"
i say "F" word all day. i am trying to quit. thank you for video.
Any opinions on ride quality Tradeoffs?
Informative as always my friend! Keep up the good work!
What if I hit 130mph on my new q speed rated tires?
What about the wheel ?
why does the stock tire look bigger than the new ones he got put on?? he go down in size?
Infield Flyer just the angle. Stock is 32.5" tall and his new tire is 33" tall
Is that ridge a 33 or 35? Sry if i missed it but i domt think he mentioned that in this video.. I want to go 22s and 35s on my new ram but i wamt more sidewall than the wheel on this video
Here I am, towing 10k lbs on stretched nitto 420v’s with zero issues.. literally that ridge grappler would have zero issues pulling a skid steer daily.
What tire would you recommend for a f250 that's gotta pull spot of weight
alot*
Hankook Dynapro ATM's are a stellar all around tire Jeffery, great in rain, snow sunny and 90. And last a long time! Do great out in the field as well!
honest sh*t
I feel queazy when I see F350s with 22x14wheels with 2 inch side walls and lift kits.
you should do a spotlight or atleast a feature on this truck
Jordan Wannamaker coming right up! We filmed this in the process of the build.
What hybrid tire do you guys have for the same rim in this video or 20" rim that matches or supersede the load rating of the stock tire?
Publix, check out our Hybrid tires here- bit.ly/2BkQ5j3 Every wheel/tire has a load index listed!
But which one will absorb potholes and ditches better? THAT IS THE QUESTION.
Much appreciate your videos. Thank you
Thank you
I don't know if you guys do this but could y'all talk about if you go with a decent size lift and bigger tires (example 4 inch lift with 33's) would you have to upgrade the brakes and rotors?.....Thanks!
Dominique Mckelvey well it definitely wouldn't hurt...
Better brakes even stock would be stellar, most guys don't. Just make sure you leave extra room for braking.
Thank you very helpful
Happy to help!🤙
so basically, if you arent towing your your deisel truck, it really doesnt matter about load index as long as its close?
As long as it surpasses the weight of the truck and you're not planning on hauling. It'll be fine. If you're going to be hauling heavy it's the best idea to get the appropriate tire load index for hauling safely!
Thanks..
INFO RULES! THANKS JIBMONEY, PIPPIN-SUNNEY
How do you tell the load index or its equivalent for the wheels? I've found info about tires plenty of places but I can't seem to find it for the wheels.
Eric Rhodes we list it for every wheel the manufacturer provides it www.customwheeloffset.com/wheels-tires
Custom Offsets - Ah. I see it now on your site. I missed it when I was looking earlier. Thanks!
vids are great keep on postin!!
Good Stuff, Great Tips👍🏿😀
excited to see this one🔥🔥
Awesome info!
such a fucken hassle hunting for your type of style in rims and wheels and then theres the diffrent prices issue
These guys rock
I seen a Duramax some body put (P) rated tires on it what a unsafe truck.
If you're ever involved in an accident with one, make sure you take note of the tire size. You can claim that you were involved in an accident with an unsafe vehicle, which puts some responsibility on the owner of that vehicle AND THE SHOP THAT INSTALLED them. You could become part owner of the shop. Even if the shop had the owner sign a waiver, signing a waiver will NOT stand up in court.
Think you got the duel / single numbers reversed. Usually they are rated less when duels.
Put these load f tire on my f150.....I fucked up lol mpg👎
#custom offsets this is a very informative video
Glad we could help!🤙
well what you expect when your using rubber bands for tires
And yet EVERY tire has different ratings so na
this is what cracks me up about guy that i have come in to home depot and get a whole 3500 pound pallet of concrete in their 1500 and tell me itll be alright
Jonah Padilla yah that's about double what she's rated for... but as I always say "do what ya want you're gonna anyways!"
Custom Offsets not my truck!
Acknowledging that you know that the truck cannot hold the weight puts you in direct legal responsibility. I always refuse to willfully overload a customer's vehicles. And signing a waiver will NOT stand up in court.
Do Cummins guys even wanna know what duramaxy things are?
Grocery getter
Common sense.
you in Houston lmao rubber bands on a truck lmao hhahaaahah
We're located in Wisconsin
Send me a pair of rims!!! Lol
guy preferred to rattle his teeth out, instead of go to the dentist?
So he’s just another poser.
Very informative video though