Caracal CAR816 A2 Rifle
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Please do a comparison video of the HK416, the SIG 516 and the CAR816 to show the progression of the design.
@@stevenrith2386 so what is the best one?
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yes, this is the real question
I own a Sig516 and a Caracal 816A2.....the Caracal is superior in fit and finish. It's arguably the World's best AR15.
I'd like to see a comparison of the Sig 516 vs the Caracal 816.
I literally own both rifles......the Caracal 816a2 is superior to the 516
Robert Hirt and Chris Royce are a couple of badasses, prestigious designers in my opinion..
Chris Sirois
Rainer arms has them for a grand. Excellent deal for an excellent gun!
I would love for Caracal to sell separate lowers and uppers.
would like to see someone do a sig516 vs caracal comparison/shootout
This might have to be my first AR, i've been holding off until i found something innovative yet reliable like this rifle. I wish Caracal the best of luck, we need more well-tested innovation in this industry.
Thanks Chris for the video, really appreciate it! Subbed.
a 1000 bucks at rainier now
This is phenomenally in-depth. Subbed!
I picked up a 16” 816 complete rifle and an 11.5” 816 complete upper the other day based on your videos. Thanks bro. They were both on sale and i took the plunge
You wont be sorry!!
Outside of the slightly raised rail/upper height...everything else is pretty much a carbon copy of the Sig 516 Gen2, which has been a great setup.
thehun06 several diffrences
This is an older video but I am going to look into one of these. Thanks for all the hard work you do on getting the info to us
Just saw a notice, these rifles are in stock at Caracal USA. If you want one, call them directly.
@@SmallArmsSolutions yes I looked them up and they are in I just bought a Colt yesterday so I have to wait. This is my first Colt thanks to you I appreciate all the info I have learned so much from you. Thank you
Also a fan of the 1913 original handguard.
I wanted to build an AR for my first rifle, a WWSD rifle from InrangeTv, but after watching this video I am very much considering getting this rifle.
Inrange rifle is not the end all be all. For your first rifle dont build it buy it. Save up buy from a good company and do your homework. then build one. Just my opinon. Until you actually fee the way they shoot you wont know what to buy parts wise for what you want to do.
Julian Cuevas it’s like you read my mind.
The 816s are back!
***ARGUABLY THE WORLD'S BEST AR15*** I own a Sig516 and a Caracal 816A2. ....The Caracal is a more refined rifle.
I agree!
First time I've seen you excited for a while ;-)
All the best features of of all of the rifles you mentioned plus a few extra tweaks.
I'm impressed!!!!! for a piston M4 it rocks.
Tried a Korean Republic Dasan M4 type rifle yet?
I stumbled upon this when Haenal was denied the contract for the German military. It makes sense why I can't find a 816 A2 only the 814 A2 which sucks.
They are available now. Call Caracal USA
@@SmallArmsSolutions Thanks 🤠
This is a very informative video. Thank you.
The lowers look really nice. I guess the 814 DI are going to be carbine gas system and not mid-length. Well, that carbine gas system can be remedied with a LMT's enhanced BCG.
Would love to see a comparison between CAR816A2 and Wolf A1 (T91), please!
I just bought one. Looking forward to shooting it.
Can its upper be used on a standard AR lower? Thanks
how are you liking it
@@me2ontube coupled with a 4x browe and the bindon aiming concept, this rifle is my go to carbine.
@@duroisgawd what's bindon aiming concept
caracal 816 assault rifles is best carbine weapons to the army’s 🇦🇪🇦🇪
I saw today the 814 priced at 699.00.What a deal!
Could you please review the B&T APC 556/223 if possible, thanks!
To your knowledge, is there any relation between the Caracal 816 & the Haenel MK556? It seems plausible given that both are external piston ARs, & both companies are owned by Tawazun.
Jake Z two very different rifles
Per Caracal, the haenel is a licensed copy.
@@SpartanB88the Haenel is not a copy of the 816. They are very different rifles. Haenel is almost identical to the 416 gas system. The same parent company tat owns Caracal also own Haenel.
Why have these disappeared?? Searching for this rifle ONLY brings up the manufacturers page. Outside of that, it’s like it doesn’t exist. Shame I’d love to pick up an SBR.
Isan Simpson they will be back, they are in a large foreign military contract which is taking up all their capacity.
Sounds like the best for the price!
Now its been selected for Indian Armed Forces.
Well this rifle is on my purchase list. Too bad it’s August 2020 and nothing is available
Make a top s tier list
Radian, lmt , dd etc
Geissele trigger
The only difference I see between this and the 516 is some contouring on the gas system. I assume this is to cut down on friction.
More to it.
Love your videos Chris 👍
This looks very similar to an Adams Arms gas system. Do you have any Adams Arms VDOs?
Very different from Adam’s Arms
Amazing rifle. Too bad you can't get one because Caracal's marketing department is shit. This rifle is nowhere to be found ANYWHERE. After more than a dozen calls/emails to Caracl over the past several months with zero replies I'm sorry to say this company is a complete joke in spite of this rifle. I've given up trying to acquire this rifle. Maybe someday in the next decade they will actually have these available for sale somewhere/anywhere. Even their lame pistols are nowhere to be found.
I've only managed to find their 814 direct inpingment AR's.
@@Humberto4790 I actually finally managed to acquire one! Haven't shot it yet but it is very well built. You have to order direct from the company. Don't give up.
@@elitetrader5468 So I could just email Caracal on their website? Is that how you did it?
@@Humberto4790 Yes, or you can call. Probably both is best. They can be slow to respond...
I have a 516 but cannot find the 816 for sale anywhere. Why?
Are you familiar with the current pandemic, election fraud, and political unrest in the US?
Do you know what ever happened with including the iron sights, or if they even still available?
And it is on sale right now on Rainier Arms for $1,000... stop convincing me to spend my money!
simon says buuuy 1
Awesome review brother! Have you had a chance with their Magpul 814? Seems like a solid option at a great price too
Trevor Williams been trying to get a std 814. No luck.
Upon firing. Where does the gas exhaust to from the gas piston area??
You said the buffer is filled with tungston powder. Is the entire valume of the buffer full or, is there a void for the powder to reciprocate? I assume the latter but, I still wanted to ask.
amazing how some people instead of answering your question prefer to criticize it.
@@Akira-nw4jl Agreed.
if your interested in learning more about the ar15 check out youtube channel : forgotten weapons- Jim Sullivan one of the original designers of the ar15. he's pretty old now but he has redesigned the ar15 to shoot much better, slower cyclic rate with better control, and he does not believe in a light bolt carrier at all. and says he got rid of bolt bounce. NOW THATS IMPRESSIVE! No other designer can claim this. too bad no one has bought his new design.
The 816 made in UAE, have two serial number prefix,16C and 16D. Wot is this difference about ? Thank you
I'm a bit late, but why is that Quench-Polish-Quench porcess would be mutually exclusive with Cold Hammer-Forging a barell? Sort of impled at about 15 min mark. Was that supposed to mean CHF+chrome lining was replaced by something else+QPQ?). I'm not asking for a full-blown answer, just maybe a keyword or two - something to start searching around. Or maybe I misunderstood?
Chris misspoke. Unfortunately, I’m not sure what his point was since QPQ has nothing to do with hammer forging. I don’t know if he’s saying that button rifling is as good as hammer forged(it isn’t for a hard use gun), or that QPQ is as good as chrome lined(it isn’t). If Caracal is telling him that, then they are FOS! I’m not aware of ANY military gun using QPQ. It’s certainly cheaper and much less environmentally bad, so you would think military guns would go that way, but they are not. The only advantage is that a really good button rifled, QPQ barrel should be more accurate. But for military use, I doubt the accuracy advantage would offset the reduced durability.
@@donrichter3523 Hey, thank you for the answer. Forgot about this video. I think _some_ military small arms, especially sidearms, may use QPQ. Anyway, like you said, Chris probably misspoke and we are overthinking it. Cheers!
You know better then I ,but the number goes down to maybe 1 hand?
Daniel Deff
Bca
Spikes
Sig
Wilson
Knights
Lmt
Colt not any new stuff
Novesske
And to me that's kinda just the best there's tons mid tear guns that guys are now loving .. I bought a carcal handgun like few years ago cause it was dirt cheap at a shop gun was amazing so I just wonder if they can tell that story and sell that ..I hope so the price was right on there gun
Forgot HK lol I'm sure there's more I mean a few years back the stag 2 was a m4 clone I think almost exactly ..
BCA?!? Those are utter shit! Maybe you meant BCM? Those are generally good, but despite the web hype, they are not great by any means. Spikes doesn’t belong here, nor does Wilson. Noveske……maybe when John was alive, but I’d say no. Sig….ugh….Sig screws its civilian customers over all the time. Constantly coming out with new product, discontinuing the old and parts support completely disappears. I hate Sig with a passion. Companies that make real guns for military clients are Colt, FN, HK, KAC, LMT, Daniel Defense uppers, Geissele uppers. That’s pretty much it. Yes, Sig sold to India, that doesn’t make them good. Also keep in mind, Sig small parts are MIM’d in………you guessed it, India. I would add in IWI, but they don’t sell AR to military.
Do you know if there are any plans to make a .308 version?
Shamir Roshni I would guess the need to get established in the US market first. They have a 7.62 in the UAE. Not made in the US yet.
They have the CAR817 in the UAE, not in the US though.
Saudi Arabia has MIC which manufacture licensed HK firearms like mp5/g3/g36 ... it’s a large manufacturing complex , yet Saudi Arabia made no effort in R&D nor export sadly , but with SAMI coming in the picture we might see indigenous firearm designs from Saudi Arabia.... still I wouldn’t have my hopes up
I thought it was really weird that India was getting an Arab company's rifle. Seeing this video, it's clear they made a good decision.
Thanks for this video, Chris. Would you recommend this as a first rifle instead of a direct gas impingement AR?
First and last rifle
@@SmallArmsSolutionsOutstanding. Thanks!
How is the car814 in comparison with DI. IS IT JUST AS GOOD ?
It’s fantastic
What is the status of this rifle now? I'm not seeing them for sale anywhere.
Contact the company. They are available
I'm interested in the competition model, I'm looking for a new rifle for 3gun.
Im very interested in these guns but I can't find them anywhere in aug 21. Not even on gun broker, not that I'd buy one there, but still.
Call Caracal directly. They are available
I'm curious what the entire reliability tests required. Certainly covering it in sugar sand with no lube isn't all it was tested with, correct? I'd be interested to see everything this rifle was "tortured" with as I'm very interested in buying one. Cold, heat, sand, moisture ect.
dubya 87 www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a481861.pdf
The NATO test TOP is in that link. It’s 80 some odd pages.. but it’s the info you’re looking for.
rainier is selling them for ... 1000 bucks !!! ... get em while they're hot !
which trigger did you use from geissele? Does this use a standard ar15 trigger? Asking b/c HK 416 cousin uses a special trigger. Thanks!
SSA
Oh look, another AR... yay
Ségvvolf .308 🤔
@@SmallArmsSolutions lol sorry, had to. Shit gets boring after a while. Love your videos, keep it up.
@@SmallArmsSolutions sometimes you see guys comparing AR's and their recievers and saying which is better and they dont even realize the 2 different brands of AR's are made in the same place. Its just funny to me. You just see AR after AR after AR and it gets old. I do realize this one is different and extremely high quality but its still an AR varient and as much as i hate to say it i still think HK holds 1st place for the best AR varient. I fucking hate HK and opinions are still like assholes so whatever lol.
@segwolfxviii2919, yup…and your opinion stinks
I would also like to know how does this stack up to lwrc, pof and so on
Ray Magnuson I believe it is comparable to them
One is a boutique rifle while the other two are battle rifles that will last 30,000 rounds with a chrome lined barrel.
Oh….I’d luv to hear which one you think is a boutique rifle…🙄. Probably the one which actually isn’t. Insert POF fanboi BS.
Does anyone make an hk style quad rail for these? Or are they interchangeable?
No in the Us. They don’t import them either. For commercial market they felt quad rails were obsolete.
@@SmallArmsSolutions well I suppose I can put some long mlok 1913 rails on it to get that quad rail look! I’m really considering buying one of their uppers! My income tax check has been burning a hole in my pocket and was earmarked for a colt 6940, but now that I’m hearing about these I might go this route. What would you recommend?
which would you recommend between the... Sig 516 G2 or the Caracal 816 A2 ??? appreciate your experience and opinion!
PHILIP JUSTICE I got both. Caracal is an improvement over the Sig
@@SmallArmsSolutions Thank you Sir! The Caracal is very hard to find!
Sig. chrome lined CHF barrel. They go quick if you can find one. Hang on to it
Of course we dont get the CHF barrels in the US
You do with a sig 516
And chrome
Chris, is there a plan to sell a pistol version w/a brace? Also can I get one in FDE??? Aim High!!!
spacedredd not sure. Company is still in its infancy in the US
M-lok IS cool but 1913 is the way
Is the 816 a mid-length piston system?
Mike Perry no, carbine
What is the length of the rail? Do they make longer ones?
k3v1n I think 10 inches.
@@SmallArmsSolutions 9 inches
The bolt carrier and piston assembly looks identical to the Sig516. Is Wilcox making the parts for both Sig and Caracal?
J Calvert several differences
SmallArmsSolutions is Wilcox doing a good job? I heard mixed things about them
Can this upper be used on a standard AR lower? Thanks
adolfhilter yes it can
Is there a longer mlok rail for this?
Ray Magnuson yes, there is a patrol rifle with one.
@@SmallArmsSolutions can you buy it or do you have to get it with the rifle only?
Sounds like they made a Galil.
Galil is long stroke piston. Totally different design.
Can I own this in mass? Anyone from Massachusetts know
what mass don't know ... :)
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Mlok > quad rail
Quad rails are for dinosaurs 😁, you can still add a quad rail with a mlok habdguard but you cant turn a quad rail into a nice, smooth and lighter mlok.
Quad rails are still the strongest rails and always will be. MLOK for ergos, but you sacrifice strength.
@King Tutt they're solutions for weight... so that phrase doesnt apply. Use loctite like you would mounting shit to rails and it works just fine. Truth hurts only to those who cant accept that their opinions arent true.
@King Tutt 🤣🤣 ok guy
Designed by an unamed german master
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Accuracy?
Steve Pattee - i know. seeing Chris banging away at some target??? off in the distance and never get to see the results of his efforts is like banging that really hot chick youve lusted after for 2 yrs but were too drunk to recall any of it!
I wish they created a unique rifle, not a copy of American ones. New type of round and a bulpup design.
Make something new and unique.
alen lalic I don’t blame them. The Ar-15 is pretty much a perfect rifle.
Why? What is the need? Also, that is a HUGE business risk.
@@danielcuevas5899 Exactly. Just refine the best platform out there. Uniqueness for uniqueness sake is a monument to the stupidity of man. Reminds me of affirmative action.
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Buy AMERICAN.
It is, made completely in the US in Idaho
@@SmallArmsSolutions Are they not a HQd in the UAE?
So what? How many Japanese cars are made in the US with US made parts? I suppose you don’t own a Beretta, CZ, Glock, HK or Sig? Sometime innovation comes from companies with overseas offices. Unlike America gun companies that stick with legacy designs, keep updating and not design new weapons. Look at the xm9 program. Not a single American made pistol completed the trials. Only an Italian and German guns finished. In Defense guns, the only American made guns sold are AR derivative. New designs are what’s made overseas. It’s an interesting market. Also see who is winning contracts. Eye opening.
Where are they? Seriously, oIher than in video have never seen one ot the range, or any stores in my area. Oklahoma.@@SmallArmsSolutions
Call the factory. Distributors have not been carrying many new companies. They are available