Great vid! P365X is my sweet spot. Love my Macro too, but when it comes to comfort, simplicity, and capability the P365X just checks all of the boxes for me and I find that I carry that gun more than 70% of the year.
The P365 XL is also my daily carry for the same reasons. It was a close race between it and the Macro, but the XL won out for concealability. Besides, the XL also can hold 17 if you really want it to. I carry a 17 round mag in mine during cool months when I wear a hoodie.
P365XL for me too. Holds sufficient rounds, a longer more comfortable grip, and the barrel is a bit longer. The recoil is less as a result and it is easy to shoot at the range. Still readily concealable. I did add a manual safety, but just preference.
@@Simply709 I have one without the comp but it is not a tackops it does not have the magwell and the extended mag release But it does have a manual thumb safety
@@ameribrahim5405 So, its basically the Tacops but without a magwell and includes a manual safety, literally just an XL with a macro lower. I didn't even know they existed, and I work at a gun store.
I carried my P365X for about a year, swapping grip frames in the summer to the 10 round length. I then carried an XL for another year. I actually just decided recently to go back to carrying the X model, 3 inch barrel with 12 round grip. The loss in energy is negligible when the barrel is only .6 inches shorter but it weighs so much less. It's also nice to not have it poke your thighs when you climb in and out of a car all day.
I second that. P365x is the perfect middle ground. I got the new slide version that retains the factory night sights with the optic cut. Holosun eps carry on there and the gray guns laser stippled grip to use the 12 rd mags. It’s just absolutely perfect.
I went with the 365x & scored a Holosun 507k due to early Black Friday deals. Couldn’t be happier. I am but a smol woman & while it is snappy, I manage just fine. Love that it’s easy to conceal as well. ❤
P365 is a must. Then a 365XL or CR920P(10+1 as short as G43, 13rd spare) for more performance with dot/light. It really starts to print beyond this point, like G48 or G43X. Macro absolutely sucks as a CCW unless someone is used to carry compact-full sized, but then it is still just XL performance + a few more rounds.
I ended up buying a Macro, and then a Wilson combat xl grip module thinking i would switch between the two depending on what I'm wearing. Never took off the Wilson Combat.
My P365 tac has a full grip with my 15 rd mag and two 12 rd mags, but I have smaller hands. It would still be a full grip with the 15 rounder no matter how big your hands are.
The X model offers flat trigger and optic ready, if you want the small module it’s cheap to get and swap, but the added value of the X is worth the upfront price difference
I am blown away by the reliability and round counts that these little pistols are achieving, especially for their size!!! I typically don't expect that kind of service life, out of such small guns!!!
The cool thing is, the XL and the Macro are literally the same gun with different plastic. So you can make it an XL for only the price of a grip module, (and a mag or two if you want flush fit). Summer carry XL and winter carry Macro is easier than ever, basically two guns for the price of one.
@@dale3123 true, but that doesn't really make or break it for me. An XL with a comp is cool, a macro without it is fine too. Extra barrel length and site radius, or a little less muzzle flip...I don't really care. It's essentially the same gun except the plastic.
Long time 1911 guy, then 7 years of G19, then 5 years of P320 Romeo, finally last 3 years 365xl with Romeo Zero & Romeo Zero Pro. About 1100 rounds zero malfunctions, no issues with the optic and I shoot it better than any of the prior pistols. Old eyes love the reflex sights too..
I enjoyed the video as always. I'm a Sig P365 owner, certified armorer and carry it daily. I didn't read all the comments. I think a test with only iron sights and no flashlights on all variations would be a better comparison. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks.
Do you have the standard P365? Trying to decide on my first ccw and leaning towards the standard just to help me get used to carrying. The XL definitely feels better in the hand but I’m not sure it’ll be comfortable for my first carry.
OG 365 micro with a 15 round mag. Want to go deep concealment? Throw in the 10 or 12 round mags.... Pinky extension is up to you. Ton of options. Easy to make it bigger.... Impossible to make the larger ones smaller.
Not going to do that instantly.... Like if you are quickly running out of the house. A mag change takes seconds. Also, cheaper to not have to buy different frames.
I agree with you and many others. The XL is the best compromise between size, concealability, and controllable shooting 9 regular X if you carry appendix ). I've said for years, Sig needs to release an XL grip module with a standard 1913 rail, not the proprietary one. Even better, do it in tungsten infused polymer. Yes, you can get an Icarus or Mischief Machine, but then you're paying just as much for the grip as you are for the rest of the pistol. I've never cared for the Macro. Grip is too long, especially with the chonky magazine plates which make printing much worse. Instead of the 3.1" barrel and comp, it should just have been a 4" from the get-go. It's Glock 17 capacity in the size of a Glock 48, but optics-capable, flat trigger, and standard accessory rail. What's not to like?
I’m glad I bought the Sig Sauer p365 xl. I had some second thoughts after I bought it , but now I have no regrets. I can carry the xl inside my pant pockets, which is great.
I had the 365 and I found it snappy with SD ammo and hard to additional rounds on target. So I traded it for the XL that’s a bit bigger but easier overall to shoot and keep in target. I did add the 365 380 and that’s a fine soft shooter
I bought the 356 Legion a few weeks ago and if you are on the fence at all or even thought about it, GET IT! It really is the most amazing pistol and despite what he said about the weight, I'm a 200lb guy and do not notice it much at all. Anyway, great video and great comparison between the models!
I got my M&P on a literal whim over 8 years ago when they first came out which has been my EDC ever since, and even though it has iron sights and no RMR cuts I still find myself not willing to part with it yet because I've also had zero failures or malfunctions with it.
@@domenik8339 I've never had a malfunction in either of my p365 pistols or my p320 Vtac, though I make sure to lube my carry guns with WC oil at least once a week. I EDC my smaller p365 in the summer and a shadow systems MR920 in the winter
@@domenik8339 Comedy, so the best-selling pistol in the country (P365) has 80% reliability? SOCOM just adopted the Spear-L, and about 40+ first-world countries have all placed SIG orders for their militaries or SF. What a stupid comment, I own 9 SIGs and am an FFL, it has been a very long time since anyone who bought a SIG ran into problems. Tell us more about Smith though, the most recalled brand in the gun industry. I love when people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, you are a real winner.
@@great_deception Oh you mean the P320 that fires by itself? It's not like there's FBI trials from the 80s where they also document SIG guns firing by itself. Oh wait, yes there is. Well sig makes other things like scopes for the Dept. of homeland defense and those are good right? The thousands of SIG models with the BDCs that are etched so crooked so they don't work and the US gov is having to return them by the truckload? Must have been a bad batch right, which is why it's happening to their Romeo line as well. Well at least they make a decent carry pistol, the P365, which hasn't ever had problems. Except for the striker that breaks off. Well at least it looks good, oh wait it's prone to rusting. That better for ya bozo?
@@domenik8339 I stopped reading in your first sentence, sad to see you side with negligent cops over common sense. Kimber, Ruger, Smith, Glock, Walther and other all at some point had a recall/upgrade program to address a drop fire issue with at least all of their models, yet people don't know about it so they attack SIG for an issue that was resolved six years ago. Prone to rusting lol, maybe for your sweaty CCer that never oils or cleans his guns. The day you can get a post-upgrade P320 and make it fire without a trigger pull in a controlled, documented setting is the day maybe at least 1 person might start listening to you. Give us a source about the DHS BDC problem, A ton of Trijicons and Eotechs were returned by the US gov't for flaws, but I can see in your eyes that only SIG can do wrong. Such sad people on here, with their #1 source for firearms info being RUclips.
My micro p365 with it's 10 round mag, is the ultimate, reliable, CC handgun in the world! I've put thousands of rounds through it without one fail. It's completely stock! No special barrel, no Magna porting, no special trigger and I dedicated all my time to shooting it with the 10 round mag, even though my hands are large. After months and months of training, I can now say I'm a proficient with it as a sharp shooter. Thank you Sig for the best and last CC handgun I'll even own.
My first concealed weapon was the 365 micro and I genuinely love how concealable it is. I bought an X-Macro Comp earlier this year though and am in love with it. I appendix carry and while yes, it's slightly more uncomfortable to carry, it's 100% my go to. The extra capacity and how much less "snappy" it is compared to the micro DWARF the size difference in my book, though I do still like carrying my micro from time to time.
I’ll admit it - I pocket carry the lighter weight P365 .380 during AZ summers. With the 9mm variants, I see your point - the XL is the best compromise (with the comped slide of course). Thanks for another great video!
I carry a p365xl with the Wilson combat xl grip - with 12rd mag + a 17rd in my pocket (neomag holder). I also have the p365-380 with the Sig X grip I took off my P365xl, with 12rd .380 mags. I love them both!
I got the 365 380 for the wife to try. I shot it to test it out before she did. Each time I took it out I liked it more and more. So much so I ditched my shield for the 365xl in 9mm. The 365xl shoots like a full size gun it’s crazy good
Love this! I love my P365xl with a Wilson Combat grip. You've gotta try it, man! It has slight palm swells, without adding extra bulk. Huge ergo improvements imo.
Agree, I have the Wilson combat grips and it’s been a game changer as far as ergonomics go. I added a TLR 6 to use in the house for home defense if the situation arises.
As a guy with small hands and a smaller frame, I got the original 365 and a T1C holster w/sidecar with the goal of carrying something as small as possible that I can still shoot well. I love it and I can shoot the smallest version very accurately if I am dry firing it regularly. The original is like tucking a deck of cards into your waistband.
Started with the 365 Micro/MS and it is not suitable for a firm grip out of the box, added the Hogue rubber grip sleeve and experienced a noticeable improvement. Installed a Wilson XL grip and it is the best fit yet, at age 71 I experienced my best LEOSA qualification to date, I previously qualified with a full-size 9mm.
I’m sure I’m not alone is saying the P365X is the best, even if not part of the video. It’s small, light, has a straight trigger and optic plate, and has a full-size grip with 12 round mag. I had the basic/micro originally, but with the extended 12 round mag, the gap between the mag and frame would feel wobbly and pinch my finger when fired. Moving to the XL negates the whole micro-size advantage.
I carry an "X" model with a Romeo Zero (hey, it was cheap and it works for me). I feel like that's the "Goldilocks" gun. I get a couple of extra rounds, it fits my hand perfectly, but it's still small enough that it disappears on my belt.
Love my XL Spectre Comp, w/ Wilson Combat Grip Module. Holosun micro green dot. Super concealable, slim, yet big enough grip where it doesn't feel too small in hand. Very light, accurate, soft recoil for a micro 9. Sigs simply rock honestly.
The P365 is just a phenomenal platform regardless which one you decide to go with. Personally I think the sweet spot is the 365X with the Wilson grip. Out of the ones you tested..I agree, definitely the XL.
@@themechanic6117 The Wilson Combat P365XL grip module works on the P365x slide. The WC grip just feels so much better especially if your replacing the micro 365 grip imo
@TheHonarable1 So you prefer the shorter slide of the P365X over the longer slide of the P365XL? Interesting, I've read some people don't like the snappiness of the shorter slide on the X and the XL is quicker between shots, but others say the X is more comfortable for daily carry than the XL. What's your take?
@TheHonarable1 I like the X because of its compact size. I have other guns that are larger and heavier. I only bought the 365x for the sole purpose of easy to carry so I see no reason to go with the longer slide. For my situation it defeats the purpose
You can also get MagGuts spring kits for the P365 and P365X/XL mags to add 2 extra rounds, meaning a very solid option for concealability and performance would be a P365X with a 14-round mag (thanks to MagGuts).
@@fredvStein Probably. I've heard people say they've either had or not had issues. Ideally, long-term users would report back on how their mags are holding up, so we can have an idea.
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Great comparisons, James. I have both the P365 and the XL and both have been so reliable and accurate that I don't feel a need to look at the other entries.
I think my stock original P365 no mods is my favorite gun. 365XL is awesome as well, fits my med glove sized hand perfect, but that original is almost always in my pocket.
I messed up and bought a bunch of Sig P365 models. If you buy the standard for 500.00 you can upgrade the grip modules to the XL and buy 12 round mags. I like the Wilson Combat & the sig store has a great laser cut (!00.00) 12 round that they put on the special Sig Custom Works models. I know I have a P365 Specter (Not comp) and put it on a egular slide. I have the standard, The X and Specter. All are great. I chose to stick with the P365 as the 320 are to big for me to cearry. God bless. Best of luxk.
As some have pointed out, XL Wilson Combat grip module is the way to go. I topped mine off with an X Macro slide and it is 🤌 Edit: Also forgot Magguts follower and spring, having a 14+1 rather than a 12+1 makes the XL size a no brainer
This is the complete and correct answer. Buy the Macro as the complete pistol. Get the Wilson XL grip. Use the factory Macro mags for range/training/reload and use a "12rd" with the magguts (to make 15) in the gun for carry. When sizing holsters for that, you want the XL compatible ones. The Wilson grip texture is aggressive - plan to wear an undershirt if you like the grip to press in against your torso. Do NOT get the "ported/comp" slide - it doesn't noticeably do anything to recoil, does make it noticeably louder/harsher, and you sacrifice a bit of accuracy with the shorter barrel. You want the 3.7" barrel. Last item, do note that if you get a Shield RMS-c (or many other optics), the correct thread and length screws are likely NOT provided. You cannot re-use the slide plate cover screws either, they'll only grab half a thread, if anything at all. The correct thread diameter and pitch is M3x0.5. Shield optics take a 12mm length and a countersunk head. Other models may need a different length or head style.
I went all in with the 365. The non-ported XL slides have fantastic accuracy potential. Wilson module "fits my hand better", and helps speed things up on multiple target and Bill Drill stuff. Kinda feels weird to find a pistol that you're completely happy with. Every time I buy a new pistol now, it's just a different SKU of 365.
@@TrojanManSCPYou're dead right. I had the XL for a while, then it went to my wife and I got the Macro tac-ops and a Wilson combat XL grip. Now I've got my old gun, plus a Macro, and my wife has an XL. So many options on the table with this platform
I would go with a macro comp slide, so, you get optics ready and comp which helps with the shorter grip, and you can still use any size 365 mag (e.g. keep a 10 round in the gun and a 17 as a spare in a mag carrier).
Now you can have virtually the same size and weight as a Glock 19, with 3 less rounds. I can't believe the amount of people who think that's an upgrade. Let me see if you're interested in a reverse mortgage next. 😂
@@domenik8339any of these are far slimmer than the G19. Therefore for me it’s easier to conceal, plus feels better in the hand and easier to shoot. I’ll pass on the reverse mortgage. (G19 was my first. Still have it. Now it just sits in the truck and collects dust.)
@@domenik8339 Wow, a smug guy who is wrong on the internet. How original. Comparing my Glock 19 and my Sig 365+, we have the following results: Weight: Glock 1.5 lbs, Sig 1.2 lbs (with the attached Streamlight TLR-6 which I couldn't find a small enough allen wrench to take off, so I'm even giving you a few ounces - so it's likely about 1 lb, which is a third of the Glock weight less, for those of you paying attention) Length: Glock 7 inch, Sig 6.5 inch (with the XL slide as described in the original comment) Height: Glock 4 3/4 inch, Sig 4 3/4 inch (with the 12 round extended pinkie mag) Width: Glock just shy of 1 inch, Sig 3/4 inch (again, for those of you who aren't mathematically inclined, that's 1/4 less than the overall width of the Glock 19) So, you claimed that the Sig is the same size as a Glock 19. The results show you are wrong. You claimed that the Sig is the same weight as the Glock 19. The results show you are wrong. This simple test proves exactly what I said in my comment, that what I call the Sig 365+ gives maximum concealability with a longer sight radius and barrel. If you're going to talk out of your ass, it's best not to do it in public for the world to see.
You do great videos, thanks. I carry a P365 with 12 round mags. You get a “master grip” (pinky included), unparalleled accuracy and shootability within 10 yards and it’s the most cost effective of all of the choices. Most importantly, never forget how Sig price gouges its customers with their mag prices.
The macro mischief machine frame (17 round mag) with the 365x optic ready slide and a Herrington comp hc365 I believe. I'm telling ya it's amazing. Ditch the sig zero optic or whatever it came with.
When I had only the regular p365 and the p365 XL I used to only carried the XL. Because it has better capacity and better accuracy.!l But then I bought a Wilson combat grip for my XL. So I place the grip of my XL into the regular p365. That was when I started to carry the regular p365 😂. But…since I in bought the p365 Macro X legion AXG I love it more than the first 2 😜. But I can’t carry it always. That is why I am Glad to have the 3 of them.
The P365 series is my EDC. I started with the XL and now I have enough options to carry an X(short slide on XL grip), XL, or Macro. I prefer the Macro because of the choice of backstraps and the picatinny rail instead of the proprietary rail of the XL. That said, if I need to slim down my carry slightly, I will go with the X or XL.
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I have a OG P365 from 2018. Got a newer XL. Bought a spectre comp slide because F aftermarket. It was loaded with red dot height x ray sights. Less than piecing a aftermarket slide together. The comp slide is noticeable. I have the configurations I want. I love my glocks but shoot these fking great. Have a regular and xl Wilson combat grip module.
I got my P365 and added a large NDZ pinky extension on the mag base. Makes for a full size grip feel. With it, I can get my pinky, and fat fingers on the grip with the leverage of a full size. Fits like a glove.
It gets worse when you find out that sig has been producing pistols that fire by themselves all the way back to the 80s, and they failed to fix the issue in 50 years. The FBI even reported that they have a sig fire by itself in the 80s when it was being evaluated.
What might be useful is a part where you try and conceal these various guns in different types of clothing to see how that small increase in size affects concealability.
I have a XL Romeozero, my first optic, and it's a revelation; progressing from one eye closed and struggling to find the dot to both eyes open focused on target and dot is just there without trying.
Which ever one fits you the best. My edc is the 365x and i really love it. My buddy has a macro, its noticeably easier to shoot. I say if it fits your hand and wants, you made a good choice.
I just bought a Sig Macro X Tacops about 10 days ago. I put a little lube on the rails and went shooting. I added a Holosun EPS Carry before I ever fired a shot. I only have 150 rounds thru it but so far it has been great! I ordered a Tenicor Certum and it carries great!. I carried a Sig P365X before that for a year plus and loved the gun. BUT whats not to like with 17 rounds. Plus it comes with 4 mags. WOOHOO
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The answer.....for me...the tac ops. Bought it fo CC and within a couple months i was shiotingnit better and faster than my DR920. Something about the length if pull just gets my finger in an ideal place for trigger pull. It on me all day and on the bedside tabke at night next to the AR.
Yes. Be frozen in time to the 80’s. There certainly are no better models today. I am just Glock patents are up so clones can show Glock what they could have been
... the XL has been my favorite carry pistol since they were introduced, but when the Macro came out I was pondering the possibility of getting one when the Manager of the LGS came by and said to me " Do you really need a comp on your pistol? If not, save some bucks and just get a Macro grip module and a few Macro mags and just use your XL slide assembly and FCU and then you'll have a home made Macro." So I did - and haven't looked back ...
365X is my favorite with a Holosun 407K green dot and Maggut springs. 14 plus 0ne rounds in a 12 round mag with 17 round back up that is reliable. For me it doesn't get any better for a small gun. As for accuracy, I shot a full mag off of bench and sand bag at 15 yards and put all rounds in a 2 inch diameter circle. I carry appendix most of the time so shorter barrel is more comfortable for me. I have other CCW type pistols but for me this is my favorite.
Got my wife a p365 when she came home and declared that her lady Smith revolver didn't have enough rounds to cover the craziness!! Me personally I carry a 10mm because go big or don't go home if you get my drift!
I'm 69. I started shooting rifles at 12 and shotguns at 13, but never ever thought I'd need to shoot a pistol until the 2020 riots. I started with a P365 with a manual safety just before the 2020 election. I soon installed the P365XL grip module. I much prefer the XL grip for my XL sized hands and I like the beavertail. Eventually I also bought a P365XL with a manual safety in December 2022. I installed 14 rd MagGuts spring kits which protrude downward about an extra 1/8". I radiused the pointy lip of the MagGuts floorplates and the P365XL now fits my hand like a glove. I tried the XMacro, but I prefer the fit in my hand with the XL grip with the MagGuts 14 rd magazine kit. I usually carry with the P365XL unless I absolutely need to pocket carry and then I carry with the shorter P365 slide with either the P365 grip module or the P365XL grip module. I have had ZERO malfunctions using 7 different brands/types of ammo. I now use 124 gr +P cartridges rated at 1,198 fps muzzle velocity and have no problems with recoil or muzzle flip. I use iron sights because it works better for concealment. I also prefer the curved trigger so I installed it in my P365XL. If I ever decided to open carry I would want a 10 mm pistol.
How bout this…I carry the XL in the summer and then switch out the trigger module into the Macro grip with my XL slide for the fall/winter/spring. Best of both worlds.
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I can’t believe this was not mentioned but the 17rd “macro” mags come with a baseplate and function 100% in the XL
Shit, I didn't know that. Now I need to pick some up.
Sorry, I thought that was obvious but you are right - I should have mentioned it.
.....Why wouldn't they? They're just longer p365 mags
@@eindride1268 I never even considered it, honestly. I forgot the macro even existed until I watched this video.
Even better, Magguts sells springs for the 15 rounders that let you add 2 more rounds. They work fine!
The "micro" with the 12 round mag with the pinky extension is great.
This is my setup, and IMO; an option often overlooked.
@@camerontomkins5571 and I think you can get pinky extensions for the 10 round mags if you're in a 10 round mag state
The Tactical Development "Pro Ledge" extensions are great. I just needed an extra 1/8" for my pinky finger.
absolutely my best solution too. that extra .9 inch on the barrel makes it uncomfortable to carry
You can always make a short grip longer but you can only make a long grip shorter once. I'm surprised Sig doesn't sell a P365L.
Great vid! P365X is my sweet spot. Love my Macro too, but when it comes to comfort, simplicity, and capability the P365X just checks all of the boxes for me and I find that I carry that gun more than 70% of the year.
The x is the ultimate
I carry mine in an Alabama pocket holster.
I’m looking for 365x grip module. Is it known with another name? I’m not having much lock …
@@alvolante4164 x and xl grip module are the same
@@CM-qm8qn thanks 🙏 for your wisdom 👍
The P365 XL is also my daily carry for the same reasons. It was a close race between it and the Macro, but the XL won out for concealability. Besides, the XL also can hold 17 if you really want it to. I carry a 17 round mag in mine during cool months when I wear a hoodie.
P365XL for me too. Holds sufficient rounds, a longer more comfortable grip, and the barrel is a bit longer. The recoil is less as a result and it is easy to shoot at the range. Still readily concealable. I did add a manual safety, but just preference.
P365 Macro, no comp, no optic. Small light. Tremendously useful package.
They do make these, they are called the p365 Tacops, though it doesn't come with the light obviously
I went with the macro with optic. I love it.
That's why your first wife Wilkinson.
@@Simply709 I have one without the comp but it is not a tackops it does not have the magwell and the extended mag release But it does have a manual thumb safety
@@ameribrahim5405 So, its basically the Tacops but without a magwell and includes a manual safety, literally just an XL with a macro lower. I didn't even know they existed, and I work at a gun store.
I carried my P365X for about a year, swapping grip frames in the summer to the 10 round length. I then carried an XL for another year. I actually just decided recently to go back to carrying the X model, 3 inch barrel with 12 round grip. The loss in energy is negligible when the barrel is only .6 inches shorter but it weighs so much less. It's also nice to not have it poke your thighs when you climb in and out of a car all day.
I also carry a P365X (here in FL and I love it) I use the Mag Guts in my 12round mags to get an extra 2 rounds. 14 + 1 is plenty.
I’ve seriously debated the WCP365X action tuned
I’ve gone from an XL to a standard for carry due more to weight than grip & slide length, but it all helps it carry easier.
I second that. P365x is the perfect middle ground. I got the new slide version that retains the factory night sights with the optic cut. Holosun eps carry on there and the gray guns laser stippled grip to use the 12 rd mags. It’s just absolutely perfect.
That's what I did with my og P365, using the WC XL grip but also a TB w/ micro comp.
For me the P365X is perfect! Absolutely love it
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I went with the 365x & scored a Holosun 507k due to early Black Friday deals. Couldn’t be happier. I am but a smol woman & while it is snappy, I manage just fine. Love that it’s easy to conceal as well. ❤
Me too. Love the pickachu pic too.
I came to the same conclusion, for me, the XL is the sweet spot. I put a Wilson Combat grip module on it for better grip.
Agree 100%. The Ikarus grip is also amazing.
P365 is a must. Then a 365XL or CR920P(10+1 as short as G43, 13rd spare) for more performance with dot/light. It really starts to print beyond this point, like G48 or G43X. Macro absolutely sucks as a CCW unless someone is used to carry compact-full sized, but then it is still just XL performance + a few more rounds.
I did the same. I like it a lot.
same, got the 365xl with the WC grip and a holosun and a 17rd macro mag in the sidecar
I ended up buying a Macro, and then a Wilson combat xl grip module thinking i would switch between the two depending on what I'm wearing. Never took off the Wilson Combat.
P365X is the sweet spot for me. Full size grip 12 rounds short barrel and very easy to hold and conceal all day. Love it!!
My P365 tac has a full grip with my 15 rd mag and two 12 rd mags, but I have smaller hands. It would still be a full grip with the 15 rounder no matter how big your hands are.
The X model offers flat trigger and optic ready, if you want the small module it’s cheap to get and swap, but the added value of the X is worth the upfront price difference
I am blown away by the reliability and round counts that these little pistols are achieving, especially for their size!!! I typically don't expect that kind of service life, out of such small guns!!!
A P365X is what I've got. With a Holosun EPS Carry and a Streamlight TLR7-Sub, it is a very capable and small package.
I’m looking for 365x grip module. Is it known with another name? I’m not having much lock …
@@alvolante4164The P365 XL module fits a regular P365 slide. Mate those two together and you have the P365X. Just buy a P365XL module.
You have my exact set up and I love it
I have a p365X , it's retaining the small footprint with 12+1 capacity 👍
The cool thing is, the XL and the Macro are literally the same gun with different plastic. So you can make it an XL for only the price of a grip module, (and a mag or two if you want flush fit). Summer carry XL and winter carry Macro is easier than ever, basically two guns for the price of one.
Except they aren't. The macro has an integrated comp.
@@dale3123 true, but that doesn't really make or break it for me. An XL with a comp is cool, a macro without it is fine too. Extra barrel length and site radius, or a little less muzzle flip...I don't really care. It's essentially the same gun except the plastic.
Long time 1911 guy, then 7 years of G19, then 5 years of P320 Romeo, finally last 3 years 365xl with Romeo Zero & Romeo Zero Pro. About 1100 rounds zero malfunctions, no issues with the optic and I shoot it better than any of the prior pistols. Old eyes love the reflex sights too..
I enjoyed the video as always. I'm a Sig P365 owner, certified armorer and carry it daily. I didn't read all the comments. I think a test with only iron sights and no flashlights on all variations would be a better comparison. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks.
Do you have the standard P365? Trying to decide on my first ccw and leaning towards the standard just to help me get used to carrying. The XL definitely feels better in the hand but I’m not sure it’ll be comfortable for my first carry.
XL seems the most practical still
It definitely is all these years later for CCW. I’m a smaller guy so I appreciate a slim gun like my XDS, but the 365xl does it even better.
OG 365 micro with a 15 round mag. Want to go deep concealment? Throw in the 10 or 12 round mags.... Pinky extension is up to you. Ton of options. Easy to make it bigger.... Impossible to make the larger ones smaller.
yes it is. you just buy a different grip module
Not going to do that instantly.... Like if you are quickly running out of the house. A mag change takes seconds. Also, cheaper to not have to buy different frames.
I agree with you and many others. The XL is the best compromise between size, concealability, and controllable shooting 9 regular X if you carry appendix ). I've said for years, Sig needs to release an XL grip module with a standard 1913 rail, not the proprietary one. Even better, do it in tungsten infused polymer. Yes, you can get an Icarus or Mischief Machine, but then you're paying just as much for the grip as you are for the rest of the pistol.
I've never cared for the Macro. Grip is too long, especially with the chonky magazine plates which make printing much worse. Instead of the 3.1" barrel and comp, it should just have been a 4" from the get-go. It's Glock 17 capacity in the size of a Glock 48, but optics-capable, flat trigger, and standard accessory rail. What's not to like?
I’m glad I bought the Sig Sauer p365 xl. I had some second thoughts after I bought it , but now I have no regrets. I can carry the xl inside my pant pockets, which is great.
Did we leave out the 365X? Arguably the "best" of the 365s, by some.
Indeed!
P 365 AXG Legion is my go to gun .. I love it!!! Best carry EVER!!!
I had the 365 and I found it snappy with SD ammo and hard to additional rounds on target. So I traded it for the XL that’s a bit bigger but easier overall to shoot and keep in target. I did add the 365 380 and that’s a fine soft shooter
I bought the 356 Legion a few weeks ago and if you are on the fence at all or even thought about it, GET IT! It really is the most amazing pistol and despite what he said about the weight, I'm a 200lb guy and do not notice it much at all. Anyway, great video and great comparison between the models!
I got my M&P on a literal whim over 8 years ago when they first came out which has been my EDC ever since, and even though it has iron sights and no RMR cuts I still find myself not willing to part with it yet because I've also had zero failures or malfunctions with it.
You'll never hear anyone with a sig say that. They seem to be happy with 80% reliability and double the cost.
@@domenik8339 I've never had a malfunction in either of my p365 pistols or my p320 Vtac, though I make sure to lube my carry guns with WC oil at least once a week. I EDC my smaller p365 in the summer and a shadow systems MR920 in the winter
@@domenik8339 Comedy, so the best-selling pistol in the country (P365) has 80% reliability? SOCOM just adopted the Spear-L, and about 40+ first-world countries have all placed SIG orders for their militaries or SF. What a stupid comment, I own 9 SIGs and am an FFL, it has been a very long time since anyone who bought a SIG ran into problems. Tell us more about Smith though, the most recalled brand in the gun industry. I love when people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, you are a real winner.
@@great_deception Oh you mean the P320 that fires by itself? It's not like there's FBI trials from the 80s where they also document SIG guns firing by itself. Oh wait, yes there is. Well sig makes other things like scopes for the Dept. of homeland defense and those are good right? The thousands of SIG models with the BDCs that are etched so crooked so they don't work and the US gov is having to return them by the truckload? Must have been a bad batch right, which is why it's happening to their Romeo line as well. Well at least they make a decent carry pistol, the P365, which hasn't ever had problems. Except for the striker that breaks off. Well at least it looks good, oh wait it's prone to rusting.
That better for ya bozo?
@@domenik8339 I stopped reading in your first sentence, sad to see you side with negligent cops over common sense. Kimber, Ruger, Smith, Glock, Walther and other all at some point had a recall/upgrade program to address a drop fire issue with at least all of their models, yet people don't know about it so they attack SIG for an issue that was resolved six years ago. Prone to rusting lol, maybe for your sweaty CCer that never oils or cleans his guns. The day you can get a post-upgrade P320 and make it fire without a trigger pull in a controlled, documented setting is the day maybe at least 1 person might start listening to you. Give us a source about the DHS BDC problem, A ton of Trijicons and Eotechs were returned by the US gov't for flaws, but I can see in your eyes that only SIG can do wrong.
Such sad people on here, with their #1 source for firearms info being RUclips.
I went with p365 in .380 and XMacro(originally XL, changed the grip) in 9mm, best of both worlds.
I've got the standard 365 with the mag guts +2 and the mcarbo titanium striker. Works pretty good
My micro p365 with it's 10 round mag, is the ultimate, reliable, CC handgun in the world! I've put thousands of rounds through it without one fail. It's completely stock! No special barrel, no Magna porting, no special trigger and I dedicated all my time to shooting it with the 10 round mag, even though my hands are large. After months and months of training, I can now say I'm a proficient with it as a sharp shooter. Thank you Sig for the best and last CC handgun I'll even own.
My first concealed weapon was the 365 micro and I genuinely love how concealable it is. I bought an X-Macro Comp earlier this year though and am in love with it. I appendix carry and while yes, it's slightly more uncomfortable to carry, it's 100% my go to. The extra capacity and how much less "snappy" it is compared to the micro DWARF the size difference in my book, though I do still like carrying my micro from time to time.
Have the 365x. Absolutely love it. Shoots great
I’ll admit it - I pocket carry the lighter weight P365 .380 during AZ summers. With the 9mm variants, I see your point - the XL is the best compromise (with the comped slide of course). Thanks for another great video!
I carry a p365xl with the Wilson combat xl grip - with 12rd mag + a 17rd in my pocket (neomag holder). I also have the p365-380 with the Sig X grip I took off my P365xl, with 12rd .380 mags. I love them both!
I got the 365 380 for the wife to try. I shot it to test it out before she did. Each time I took it out I liked it more and more. So much so I ditched my shield for the 365xl in 9mm. The 365xl shoots like a full size gun it’s crazy good
I have had my 365 X Macro Comp for about 6 months and it is my everyday carry. 17 rounds , great gun !!
Which state are you located? Any RUST problems with your p365 x macro?
Love this! I love my P365xl with a Wilson Combat grip. You've gotta try it, man! It has slight palm swells, without adding extra bulk. Huge ergo improvements imo.
Agree, I have the Wilson combat grips and it’s been a game changer as far as ergonomics go. I added a TLR 6 to use in the house for home defense if the situation arises.
Mag Guts plus 2 rounds for the xl. You get 14 rounds instead of 12 and it's reliable. I love em!
As a guy with small hands and a smaller frame, I got the original 365 and a T1C holster w/sidecar with the goal of carrying something as small as possible that I can still shoot well.
I love it and I can shoot the smallest version very accurately if I am dry firing it regularly.
The original is like tucking a deck of cards into your waistband.
Started with the 365 Micro/MS and it is not suitable for a firm grip out of the box, added the Hogue rubber grip sleeve and experienced a noticeable improvement. Installed a Wilson XL grip and it is the best fit yet, at age 71 I experienced my best LEOSA qualification to date, I previously qualified with a full-size 9mm.
I’m sure I’m not alone is saying the P365X is the best, even if not part of the video. It’s small, light, has a straight trigger and optic plate, and has a full-size grip with 12 round mag. I had the basic/micro originally, but with the extended 12 round mag, the gap between the mag and frame would feel wobbly and pinch my finger when fired. Moving to the XL negates the whole micro-size advantage.
I use the 365 with the 10 mag for best concealment in Arizona. But the 365X is better as a gun.
Have the original, as small as possible. No lights or red dots just 11 rounds. It is easy to shoot. Also have the m17 with a Romeo red dot. Covered
Xl with wilson combat grip module. Since 2019.
Sig has offer out right now. Any X macro purchase between October 4th and December 15th..gets 3 free additional mags.😁
I carry an "X" model with a Romeo Zero (hey, it was cheap and it works for me). I feel like that's the "Goldilocks" gun. I get a couple of extra rounds, it fits my hand perfectly, but it's still small enough that it disappears on my belt.
Save for another optic and sell the zero
Love my XL Spectre Comp, w/ Wilson Combat Grip Module. Holosun micro green dot. Super concealable, slim, yet big enough grip where it doesn't feel too small in hand. Very light, accurate, soft recoil for a micro 9. Sigs simply rock honestly.
The P365 is just a phenomenal platform regardless which one you decide to go with. Personally I think the sweet spot is the 365X with the Wilson grip. Out of the ones you tested..I agree, definitely the XL.
Does Wilson combat make a grip for the 365X ? I was just on their website and didn't see a option for the 365X
@@themechanic6117 The Wilson Combat P365XL grip module works on the P365x slide. The WC grip just feels so much better especially if your replacing the micro 365 grip imo
@TheHonarable1 So you prefer the shorter slide of the P365X over the longer slide of the P365XL? Interesting, I've read some people don't like the snappiness of the shorter slide on the X and the XL is quicker between shots, but others say the X is more comfortable for daily carry than the XL. What's your take?
@@fredvStein Imo the shorter slide shoots incredibly well and the longer slide doesn't shoot that much better to sacrifice "365" carrying comfort.
@TheHonarable1 I like the X because of its compact size. I have other guns that are larger and heavier. I only bought the 365x for the sole purpose of easy to carry so I see no reason to go with the longer slide. For my situation it defeats the purpose
Ive had all of them and finally settled on the Xmacro Tacops, its the do it all gun in my opinion.
You can also get MagGuts spring kits for the P365 and P365X/XL mags to add 2 extra rounds, meaning a very solid option for concealability and performance would be a P365X with a 14-round mag (thanks to MagGuts).
I would not trust those magguts with my life. Had waaay too many problems in the M&P Shield magazines
@@pcpolice7937 That's a bummer. I suppose that could be a problem. Maybe I'd find out by testing them on my mags and see how that goes.
@@Slavolko The main issue I hear is that a leaf spring doesn't have the same strength as a coil spring.
@@fredvStein Probably. I've heard people say they've either had or not had issues. Ideally, long-term users would report back on how their mags are holding up, so we can have an idea.
Thanks for putting these videos together, James. I was a little worried when you started spinning things off from TFBTV but you keep delivering insightful and well-produced content.
I have the 365 and thec365 xl. I carry the 365 in the summer. The 365 xl with extended mag in the winter.
Very happy with both of them.
Great comparisons, James. I have both the P365 and the XL and both have been so reliable and accurate that I don't feel a need to look at the other entries.
I think my stock original P365 no mods is my favorite gun. 365XL is awesome as well, fits my med glove sized hand perfect, but that original is almost always in my pocket.
I messed up and bought a bunch of Sig P365 models. If you buy the standard for 500.00 you can upgrade the grip modules to the XL and buy 12 round mags. I like the Wilson Combat & the sig store has a great laser cut (!00.00) 12 round that they put on the special Sig Custom Works models. I know I have a P365 Specter (Not comp) and put it on a egular slide. I have the standard, The X and Specter. All are great. I chose to stick with the P365 as the 320 are to big for me to cearry. God bless. Best of luxk.
You missed the p365-380. It’s clearly and by far the most shootable.
Thank you, James. Great information on these pistols.
As some have pointed out, XL Wilson Combat grip module is the way to go. I topped mine off with an X Macro slide and it is 🤌
Edit: Also forgot Magguts follower and spring, having a 14+1 rather than a 12+1 makes the XL size a no brainer
100% agree. It's a complete game changer.
I do xl with magguts and the icarus hybrid module
This is the complete and correct answer. Buy the Macro as the complete pistol. Get the Wilson XL grip. Use the factory Macro mags for range/training/reload and use a "12rd" with the magguts (to make 15) in the gun for carry. When sizing holsters for that, you want the XL compatible ones. The Wilson grip texture is aggressive - plan to wear an undershirt if you like the grip to press in against your torso.
Do NOT get the "ported/comp" slide - it doesn't noticeably do anything to recoil, does make it noticeably louder/harsher, and you sacrifice a bit of accuracy with the shorter barrel. You want the 3.7" barrel.
Last item, do note that if you get a Shield RMS-c (or many other optics), the correct thread and length screws are likely NOT provided. You cannot re-use the slide plate cover screws either, they'll only grab half a thread, if anything at all. The correct thread diameter and pitch is M3x0.5. Shield optics take a 12mm length and a countersunk head. Other models may need a different length or head style.
I went all in with the 365. The non-ported XL slides have fantastic accuracy potential. Wilson module "fits my hand better", and helps speed things up on multiple target and Bill Drill stuff.
Kinda feels weird to find a pistol that you're completely happy with.
Every time I buy a new pistol now, it's just a different SKU of 365.
@@TrojanManSCPYou're dead right. I had the XL for a while, then it went to my wife and I got the Macro tac-ops and a Wilson combat XL grip. Now I've got my old gun, plus a Macro, and my wife has an XL. So many options on the table with this platform
Sig’s 17 rounders work in all p365’s, specter comp come with 12’s and a 17 now. Best all around imo.
Trick question: the correct answer is a 365 frame with a 365XL slide.
Gives you maximum concealability with a longer sight radius and barrel.
I do this as well as bought an XL grip module so I can make basically every variant.
I would go with a macro comp slide, so, you get optics ready and comp which helps with the shorter grip, and you can still use any size 365 mag (e.g. keep a 10 round in the gun and a 17 as a spare in a mag carrier).
Now you can have virtually the same size and weight as a Glock 19, with 3 less rounds. I can't believe the amount of people who think that's an upgrade. Let me see if you're interested in a reverse mortgage next. 😂
@@domenik8339any of these are far slimmer than the G19. Therefore for me it’s easier to conceal, plus feels better in the hand and easier to shoot. I’ll pass on the reverse mortgage. (G19 was my first. Still have it. Now it just sits in the truck and collects dust.)
@@domenik8339 Wow, a smug guy who is wrong on the internet. How original.
Comparing my Glock 19 and my Sig 365+, we have the following results:
Weight: Glock 1.5 lbs, Sig 1.2 lbs (with the attached Streamlight TLR-6 which I couldn't find a small enough allen wrench to take off, so I'm even giving you a few ounces - so it's likely about 1 lb, which is a third of the Glock weight less, for those of you paying attention)
Length: Glock 7 inch, Sig 6.5 inch (with the XL slide as described in the original comment)
Height: Glock 4 3/4 inch, Sig 4 3/4 inch (with the 12 round extended pinkie mag)
Width: Glock just shy of 1 inch, Sig 3/4 inch (again, for those of you who aren't mathematically inclined, that's 1/4 less than the overall width of the Glock 19)
So, you claimed that the Sig is the same size as a Glock 19. The results show you are wrong.
You claimed that the Sig is the same weight as the Glock 19. The results show you are wrong.
This simple test proves exactly what I said in my comment, that what I call the Sig 365+ gives maximum concealability with a longer sight radius and barrel.
If you're going to talk out of your ass, it's best not to do it in public for the world to see.
Retired the G26 after 15years. Sig 365x was first firearm to make me want to change. Was the same reason i bought the 26 in the first place.
I went from carrying a G19M to the XMacro Comp, got a EPS Carry for it; very pleased
You do great videos, thanks. I carry a P365 with 12 round mags. You get a “master grip” (pinky included), unparalleled accuracy and shootability within 10 yards and it’s the most cost effective of all of the choices.
Most importantly, never forget how Sig price gouges its customers with their mag prices.
I have the 365xl with the Wilson Combat grip module; it is stellar.
The macro mischief machine frame (17 round mag) with the 365x optic ready slide and a Herrington comp hc365 I believe. I'm telling ya it's amazing. Ditch the sig zero optic or whatever it came with.
Its a great gun, I go between my XL and my 632 airweight. Love both of them.
You need to slap the micro slide on the XL frame and try it (basically what SIG calls the P365X). In my opinion it's the best combination.
How about the p365 x not the xl
When I had only the regular p365 and the p365 XL I used to only carried the XL. Because it has better capacity and better accuracy.!l
But then I bought a Wilson combat grip for my XL. So I place the grip of my XL into the regular p365. That was when I started to carry the regular p365 😂. But…since I in bought the p365 Macro X legion AXG I love it more than the first 2 😜. But I can’t carry it always. That is why I am Glad to have the 3 of them.
If considering the P365, get a Kimber R7 in your hands also. They both feel very different in the hand, but are both great guns to try and buy.
The P365 series is my EDC. I started with the XL and now I have enough options to carry an X(short slide on XL grip), XL, or Macro. I prefer the Macro because of the choice of backstraps and the picatinny rail instead of the proprietary rail of the XL. That said, if I need to slim down my carry slightly, I will go with the X or XL.
I went with the macro I couldn’t help wanting more rounds and the longer grip that fits my hands better. But all of these are great options.
The ones that shoot by themselves 😉
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Best articulation on RUclips. Easy to understand, love the P365. That's my gun of choice. ! Thank you great job.
I have a OG P365 from 2018. Got a newer XL. Bought a spectre comp slide because F aftermarket. It was loaded with red dot height x ray sights. Less than piecing a aftermarket slide together. The comp slide is noticeable. I have the configurations I want. I love my glocks but shoot these fking great. Have a regular and xl Wilson combat grip module.
I bought the fully loaded Spectre Comp slide for one of my XLs too and then had to do another XL build with the leftover slide. 😋😂
I got my P365 and added a large NDZ pinky extension on the mag base. Makes for a full size grip feel. With it, I can get my pinky, and fat fingers on the grip with the leverage of a full size. Fits like a glove.
The sig that doesn't fire itself would be a nice start.
It gets worse when you find out that sig has been producing pistols that fire by themselves all the way back to the 80s, and they failed to fix the issue in 50 years. The FBI even reported that they have a sig fire by itself in the 80s when it was being evaluated.
Calling bullshit on both of your idiot comments.
What might be useful is a part where you try and conceal these various guns in different types of clothing to see how that small increase in size affects concealability.
I have a XL Romeozero, my first optic, and it's a revelation; progressing from one eye closed and struggling to find the dot to both eyes open focused on target and dot is just there without trying.
I love my sig p226 9mm and p220 45 cal best accurate guns on the market I believe!
Great review. Didn’t realize the micro was about the same size as the P938.
Sig P239 or P229
I’ll keep my x macro with comp and 507k. Love it
Which ever one fits you the best. My edc is the 365x and i really love it. My buddy has a macro, its noticeably easier to shoot. I say if it fits your hand and wants, you made a good choice.
I just bought a Sig Macro X Tacops about 10 days ago. I put a little lube on the rails and went shooting. I added a Holosun EPS Carry before I ever fired a shot. I only have 150 rounds thru it but so far it has been great! I ordered a Tenicor Certum and it carries great!. I carried a Sig P365X before that for a year plus and loved the gun. BUT whats not to like with 17 rounds. Plus it comes with 4 mags. WOOHOO
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The answer.....for me...the tac ops. Bought it fo CC and within a couple months i was shiotingnit better and faster than my DR920. Something about the length if pull just gets my finger in an ideal place for trigger pull. It on me all day and on the bedside tabke at night next to the AR.
Glock. Glock is what you should get.
nah.
Yes. Be frozen in time to the 80’s. There certainly are no better models today.
I am just Glock patents are up so clones can show Glock what they could have been
I got a glock in 1989, but fortunately, I was able to get rid of it in 1990.😅
I switch between the OG 365 and the XL. Love them both
Which Sig?
I choose the Glock.
... the XL has been my favorite carry pistol since they were introduced, but when the Macro came out I was pondering the possibility of getting one when the Manager of the LGS came by and said to me " Do you really need a comp on your pistol? If not, save some bucks and just get a Macro grip module and a few Macro mags and just use your XL slide assembly and FCU and then you'll have a home made Macro." So I did - and haven't looked back ...
365X is my favorite with a Holosun 407K green dot and Maggut springs. 14 plus 0ne rounds in a 12 round mag with 17 round back up that is reliable. For me it doesn't get any better for a small gun. As for accuracy, I shot a full mag off of bench and sand bag at 15 yards and put all rounds in a 2 inch diameter circle. I carry appendix most of the time so shorter barrel is more comfortable for me. I have other CCW type pistols but for me this is my favorite.
Got my wife a p365 when she came home and declared that her lady Smith revolver didn't have enough rounds to cover the craziness!! Me personally I carry a 10mm because go big or don't go home if you get my drift!
I have the XL. Love it
The best model of any Sig is the one that only goes off when you pull the trigger ... I'm sure it's out there somewhere 😂
@@GWOTKoolAid that's the one I had in mind. Also my 556 patrol rifle, but that has other problems that Sig refuses to fix.
I'm 69. I started shooting rifles at 12 and shotguns at 13, but never ever thought I'd need to shoot a pistol until the 2020 riots. I started with a P365 with a manual safety just before the 2020 election. I soon installed the P365XL grip module. I much prefer the XL grip for my XL sized hands and I like the beavertail. Eventually I also bought a P365XL with a manual safety in December 2022. I installed 14 rd MagGuts spring kits which protrude downward about an extra 1/8". I radiused the pointy lip of the MagGuts floorplates and the P365XL now fits my hand like a glove. I tried the XMacro, but I prefer the fit in my hand with the XL grip with the MagGuts 14 rd magazine kit. I usually carry with the P365XL unless I absolutely need to pocket carry and then I carry with the shorter P365 slide with either the P365 grip module or the P365XL grip module. I have had ZERO malfunctions using 7 different brands/types of ammo. I now use 124 gr +P cartridges rated at 1,198 fps muzzle velocity and have no problems with recoil or muzzle flip. I use iron sights because it works better for concealment. I also prefer the curved trigger so I installed it in my P365XL. If I ever decided to open carry I would want a 10 mm pistol.
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Have pretty much exclusively carried the P365 for a while but am putting the XL on my wishlist thanks to this video.
I like the Wilson combat XL grip on the standard P365
How bout this…I carry the XL in the summer and then switch out the trigger module into the Macro grip with my XL slide for the fall/winter/spring. Best of both worlds.
I chose the XL version, with the Romeo zero. Love it!!!